As seen by the lions form early in the year, you can't go at the coach solely for the effort. The players are the ones that decide how much effort they put in, Hinkley isn't the one running out there. They didn't lose because of strategy, they lost because they couldn't match the lions effort
I'd like to throw my two bob in on this, re: port disaster. New shipping terminal in addie. Go back a few years, recruited badly, eg: one from Sydney, glad to see him go, also, holding on to injured & over the hill forward. There's a few others too. Don't blame the coach for your new Port. Recruiting dept. has a few curlies to answer. Heading home , face-down on a flat bed truck with interstate transport agents. Don't worry, look what the hawks and north are doing, you'll rise again, you're transitioning at the moment. ❤
@@PulauSwan I'm a lions fan so have just seen the same thing with certain (david king) calling for Fagan to be replaced. People hang everything on the head coaches even if its not a game plan issue.
Name another coach who has had that length of tenure at one club without a premiership? Collingwood showed Buckley the door & McCrae showed it’s was him. Robbo is a donkey. 8th spot is an also ran spot. The bottom 2 spots in the finals just make up the numbers. Port can’t kick goals despite all the forward 50’s.
Did you listen to 5AA after the game ,port supporters vented their anger for an hour and a half to Tim Giniver and Warren Tredrae and they are port through and through ,they have had enough
Biggest issue ive seen compared to good teams is this - theres NO player leadership out there. Except partially the midfield group. Backline has NO leader there yelling out positions or leading the backs. None. They are missing a tommy jonas or even McKenzie tbh... forwards have NO leader... dbj is part of leadership but i rarely ever see forward leaders there positioning players... dixon isnt there to do that either and worst is no SPP leadership. Jezza isnt leading.. todd isnt.. McEntee definitely isnt.. Georgiades isnt... theyve got no one leading. Thats their main problem on ground. No leaders. Then its the forward and backline coaches. They clearly havent trained or coached the players properly. Hence the turmoil in the backline. Not so much on kenny.
Agree with this. I wonder if having Rozee out really affected them in more ways than one. Todd might not be the biggest goal kicker but I think he can be the forward leader. Aliir is the most responsible in the back half and should be the defence leader. Esava makes some really dumb mistakes. He should just play the percentages when kicking out.
Port were are basket case when he took over... Yes it looks like his time is done but he has done so much for that club... He just deserves better treatment than what he's copping at this time... If the board aren't happy with him then move him on but people like Tredrea need to close their mouths until he's gone instead of giving it to him slyly in his media role
Yeah right, as a port fan I can tell you we might not even make finals and if we do we’re going out in straights sets there is a 0.01 percent chance we would even make the grand final or win it, we are jokes.
robbo writes articles every week that pushes to end some player or coaches career and now he is telling paying members they cant express their opinion. booing is harsh, but the paying members wanted kenny gone last year. blame port not the frustrated supporters,
Port were Top Four last year, the club sold future picks to "improve" their list and Kenny claimed this was the best team that he has ever coached. Now the coach and head of footy are saying they are not good enough ... but it's the players that should be in the gun? Not even Trump is this much of a grifter.
My Son and I went to the game and yes it was disappointing with the outcome, but there is no reason for the booing from the fans, I was ashamed how they reacted. Also no reason for name calling. ok
@LlywellynOBrien 2 finals wins in the last 10 years. No premiership. No Grand Final appearance. But a bunch of excuses as to why a side filled with All Australians can't get it done year in, year out.
It's just how port fans are feral just like ken and just like David Koch. In a way I don't blame the fans ken has done nothing with this club was a special day for the old player's and they blew it. 🤦🤣🤦🤣
12 yrs of avg performance at best. If thats what afl clubs accept no one will have an interest . The fans have been nicely declining his advances for years now. It's like the unwanted bf or gf. They gotta get it when it's time to move on. Loyalty lol. It's called a big pay check that you won't get anywhere else. Loyalty means passion. Show us one post match interview with anything but a dry dull emotionless blank stare. Don't make people laugh.. Get someone dn at Port with real character and passion . Yep enough passion to meet Dixon at 5am to learn how to kick straight. Thats passion. Not jumping like a clown after your fav team wins.. Honesty is hard sometimes but he's not the inspirational looking type 12 yrs of rubbish. Port needs an ego check that their problem.
What parallel universe are you living in, this guy is famous for wearing his emotions on his sleeves. Have you seen his winning celebrations? On that win in the showdown a few years back after a losing streak? On the Houston goal last year? I have no problem with criticising Ken, even if I think the claims are often problematic, but claiming that he is passionless is genuinely bewildering.
@@LlywellynOBrien people win.lotterys and jump up dn like clowns too. Of course it's human nature. Passion is him taking Dixon out at 5am and kicking a ball as many days or months it takes to travel.in straight line. But to do that requires people put their egos to the side.
Can we stop using certain words so general society can understand. I get them all but these words bug me. Ideology-ideas, Methodology-methods, Nuance, Verbatim etc etc. Talk to the ppl and not your ego.
Hang on, he's had 12 years, it's his job to motivate the players so it's his responsibility. It's quite reasonable that the fans have had enough.
Port are way over-rated! If you think otherwise, you have your head stuck up your arse!
I don't see how it's his job to motivate the players. I would think getting paid half a million a year would be motivation enough.
@@richardbehan8118 😅 what do you reckon a coaches responsibility is? I'm gobsmacked
@@johnwilliams4545 coaching the game plan and dropping players that can't self motivate.
@@richardbehan8118 mate, you're obviously new.
The playing group arent playing for Hinkley , and it havent been for a while now
Josh car is not the answer to port on field problems
As seen by the lions form early in the year, you can't go at the coach solely for the effort. The players are the ones that decide how much effort they put in, Hinkley isn't the one running out there. They didn't lose because of strategy, they lost because they couldn't match the lions effort
I'd like to throw my two bob in on this, re: port disaster. New shipping terminal in addie.
Go back a few years, recruited badly, eg: one from Sydney, glad to see him go, also, holding on to injured & over the hill forward. There's a few others too. Don't blame the coach for your new Port. Recruiting dept. has a few curlies to answer. Heading home , face-down on a flat bed truck with interstate transport agents.
Don't worry, look what the hawks and north are doing, you'll rise again, you're transitioning at the moment. ❤
@@PulauSwan I'm a lions fan so have just seen the same thing with certain (david king) calling for Fagan to be replaced. People hang everything on the head coaches even if its not a game plan issue.
@@Tosicc567 There's a difference tho. Ken has had 12 years with multiple different lists and coaches along his side
Name another coach who has had that length of tenure at one club without a premiership?
Collingwood showed Buckley the door & McCrae showed it’s was him.
Robbo is a donkey. 8th spot is an also ran spot. The bottom 2 spots in the finals just make up the numbers. Port can’t kick goals despite all the forward 50’s.
I'm a Lion's fan and obviously happy with the win, but seeing Port fans booing their own coach was disgraceful.
how was it 'disgraceful' ?
Sorry, port fans aren’t all NPCs with a hive mind opinion.
@@Jazzanaught Booing as a group is literally npc/hivemind behaviour.
No, people need to be booed
Interview the senior players for their justification.
If you actually care to look there were only two people giving him some stick when walking off the ground. Everyone else was clapping.
There was booing when they left the field and even during the game when Ken was on the big screen.
You obviously were not there
@@tubester4567 I didn't say during the game did I?
If you actually care to listen 🤓 ☝️
Did you listen to 5AA after the game ,port supporters vented their anger for an hour and a half to Tim Giniver and Warren Tredrae and they are port through and through ,they have had enough
Carlton played poorly last season, you can turn it around! Players must take responsibility!
Class from Fox using Electro theme from The Amazing Spider-Man 2 for the intro segment
I never expected a coach to motivate me. I have had a couple of coaches I wasn't that fond of but I still Busted my arse to exhaustion.
Biggest issue ive seen compared to good teams is this - theres NO player leadership out there. Except partially the midfield group. Backline has NO leader there yelling out positions or leading the backs. None. They are missing a tommy jonas or even McKenzie tbh... forwards have NO leader... dbj is part of leadership but i rarely ever see forward leaders there positioning players... dixon isnt there to do that either and worst is no SPP leadership. Jezza isnt leading.. todd isnt.. McEntee definitely isnt.. Georgiades isnt... theyve got no one leading.
Thats their main problem on ground. No leaders.
Then its the forward and backline coaches. They clearly havent trained or coached the players properly. Hence the turmoil in the backline.
Not so much on kenny.
Agree with this. I wonder if having Rozee out really affected them in more ways than one. Todd might not be the biggest goal kicker but I think he can be the forward leader. Aliir is the most responsible in the back half and should be the defence leader. Esava makes some really dumb mistakes. He should just play the percentages when kicking out.
Its pretty simple here. The current game plan and system is not working for this group. That ultimately is from the coach.
Port supporters are spoiled little brats I hope who ever takes over next port end up staying bottom 4 just so they know Ken was a great coach
You celebrate your team getting flogged at your home games.
Port were are basket case when he took over... Yes it looks like his time is done but he has done so much for that club... He just deserves better treatment than what he's copping at this time... If the board aren't happy with him then move him on but people like Tredrea need to close their mouths until he's gone instead of giving it to him slyly in his media role
If was the Port Board that got the Adelaide Oval redevelopment done and moved Ports home games there that turned things around.
@@Lee-cc9jflol
Some of the players are on the Charlie too. That can't help
Would be good if the bulldogs get up and win just to see how the fans will react after the brisbane game
But the media can call for coaches heads, question if coaches are up to it but fans have to keep quiet. Make it make sense…
Its funny that they wore that Guernsey in 04 and got humiliated and now 20 years on its happend again
Same
Need someone to turn on the power , we love you Kenny but 12 years is way too long, Damian Hardwick got 8 years at Richmond he won 3 premier ships
The winds of change?
Who’s idea what is to have electros there in this video and how tf did they get the rights? Genius.
Typical plastic supporters who turn on their coach. Probably won’t turn up to games anymore when not winning like the old bring out the tarp days
What if port win the flag
Nice joke. My team won't win a flag as long as Ken and co are there.
😂
😂
Yeah right, as a port fan I can tell you we might not even make finals and if we do we’re going out in straights sets there is a 0.01 percent chance we would even make the grand final or win it, we are jokes.
robbo writes articles every week that pushes to end some player or coaches career and now he is telling paying members they cant express their opinion. booing is harsh, but the paying members wanted kenny gone last year. blame port not the frustrated supporters,
Exactly
Whats robbos afl resume who did he play for he seems to think he knows alot?
Are you the type of person that says “you aren’t a chef so you can’t criticise the food they made you”
Port were Top Four last year, the club sold future picks to "improve" their list and Kenny claimed this was the best team that he has ever coached.
Now the coach and head of footy are saying they are not good enough ... but it's the players that should be in the gun?
Not even Trump is this much of a grifter.
Considering that Trump isn’t a grifter at all this is a fair assessment.
@@Jazzanaught
LMAO.
So dramatic and Im not a Port fan.
My Son and I went to the game and yes it was disappointing with the outcome, but there is no reason for the booing from the fans, I was ashamed how they reacted. Also no reason for name calling. ok
Throw the coaching gurnsey to Cornes,
He's got the leather and the horns,
Please give him a go ,
and get him off the radio .
@@PulauSwan What I found interesting about this situation is. The players supposedly got a standing ovation after the game.
@@leaderofnoone9087 are you serious ?
Don’t take him again if you can’t handle it. People boo. Get over it wimp.
@@PulauSwanthat's the most funniest comment I've heard wow really kornes he couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag hahahaha
Josh Carr this, Josh Carr that for the last 3 years. He's not even coach, who cares
So Robbo is now advocating booing players including indigenous players, sounds reasonable.
Absolutely should! Port players' effort on the weekend was absolutely disgraceful
@@alisterturley-sunderland3872
How long has Port been there for?
What does being indigenous have to do with this?
Day grand final a.m annalogue yesterday twilight or night grand final f.m digital tomorrow move forward afl 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Who cares.
i was there, shouldnt be booed he picked this club off the floor
Feral fans
Rubbish. MANY people got this club off the floor
Yeah, 12 years ago.
People like Kane and Whateley say "it's not the SANFL anymore".
Well, it's not 2012 anymore.
It's time to move on.
@@agmor1Yeah, and in that 12 years he has had a very good winning record.
@LlywellynOBrien
2 finals wins in the last 10 years.
No premiership.
No Grand Final appearance.
But a bunch of excuses as to why a side filled with All Australians can't get it done year in, year out.
Day grand final tony serprano (remember when is the worst form of conversation)😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Who cares.
It's just how port fans are feral just like ken and just like David Koch. In a way I don't blame the fans ken has done nothing with this club was a special day for the old player's and they blew it. 🤦🤣🤦🤣
12 yrs of avg performance at best. If thats what afl clubs accept no one will have an interest . The fans have been nicely declining his advances for years now. It's like the unwanted bf or gf. They gotta get it when it's time to move on. Loyalty lol. It's called a big pay check that you won't get anywhere else. Loyalty means passion. Show us one post match interview with anything but a dry dull emotionless blank stare. Don't make people laugh.. Get someone dn at Port with real character and passion . Yep enough passion to meet Dixon at 5am to learn how to kick straight. Thats passion. Not jumping like a clown after your fav team wins.. Honesty is hard sometimes but he's not the inspirational looking type 12 yrs of rubbish. Port needs an ego check that their problem.
It's the AFL. You can't say or act how you want otherwise the AFL fine you big money and suspend you.
What parallel universe are you living in, this guy is famous for wearing his emotions on his sleeves. Have you seen his winning celebrations? On that win in the showdown a few years back after a losing streak? On the Houston goal last year?
I have no problem with criticising Ken, even if I think the claims are often problematic, but claiming that he is passionless is genuinely bewildering.
@@LlywellynOBrien people win.lotterys and jump up dn like clowns too. Of course it's human nature. Passion is him taking Dixon out at 5am and kicking a ball as many days or months it takes to travel.in straight line. But to do that requires people put their egos to the side.
Can we stop using certain words so general society can understand. I get them all but these words bug me. Ideology-ideas, Methodology-methods, Nuance, Verbatim etc etc.
Talk to the ppl and not your ego.
Brainlet comment. I don't want to watch play school analysis of things. Am I in the wrong?