I switched these with Dateline to watch before bedtime and one thing that strikes me as unique about these Brainscratchers: The host is very compassionate. He seems like he sincerely cares about these cases and the people who disappear.
So true. I don’t like some of the women doing True Crime, just because they seem so arrogant and don’t come across as genuine at all. They are not all like that though, I love Stephanie Harlow, for example, I love Kendall Rae and Kimbyrleigha… those are some of the few that I do enjoy watching. Also Stephanie Soo, but you have to like mukbang + true crime videos to like her content. But she’s always respectful to the victims and their families. Also, Unsolved No More with detective Ken Mains!! But yeah, those are the main channels of true crime content that I watch.
@@karaa7595 what is not the whole story? This video or the book the comment about talks about? And where can i find the " whole story"? What are you talking about?
That's how the Illuminati works u sacerfice someone close to u for fortune and fame before this incident nobody even knew who Richard Walsh was then all of a sudden he's the host of America's most wanted
+Maria de vries yes! i totally agree! and i remember Jamie Bulger well and that was not his mothers fault at all.According to Sears in response to the Walsh's suit,Reve left Adam alone in the store for at least an hour and a half,which is hugely neglectful.But when you hear about what massive cocaine users they were,maybe that explains that.I think there is a whole lot of stuff in the Adam Walsh story that the public will never know.
@@monalisacarey5438 ..He didn't only go after "women" Ted has many teen victims.... it's been a while since I looked into his case but if I remember the 12yrs old was his last victim and he was on the run?
@@monalisacarey5438 Jeffrey Dahmer disposed of Steven Hicks by crushing his bones after flaying him. And throughout his killing sprees Dahmer disposed of various parts and kept certain parts as trophies. Dahmer's youngest attempted victim that is known of was around 12-14. It's not unreasonable to believe that a decade earlier he may have sought out Adam Walsh and killed him. Sadly we may never know if Dahmer did if fact participate in the murder of Adam Walsh.
I have such a hard time believing Ottis Toole killed Adam, he admitted to so many murders that he had nothing to do with. I bet he would've confessed to killing Kennedy if he was asked -_- Maybe he did kill Adam, I mean if John Walsh believes that I don't know. I just get a feeling he didn't do it. This whole story just breaks my heart, Adam was such a cute little boy but I'm glad John Walsh was able to help so many others in Adam's name.
+Jane Toole didn't kill him,that is resoundingly obvious.I don't believe the Walshes think he did either.There is much about this case that is fishy indeed.
there is significant evidence that it may have been Jeffrey dahmers atleast two people said that they saw a man in the mall later on Dahmer was convicted of his killings and both witnesses identified him as the same man they saw.
+Michael at KY there is a book on it. and the author did a interview on darkness radio just look up the real Adam Walsh story darkness radio on youtube.
Conspiracy Bullshit. Like Eyewitness testimony is 100% reliable. Also Dahmer was NOT a pedophile. Toole did it. End of Story unless you want to Call John Walsh a liar in his face.
I have zero sympathy for Ottis, whether he was the killer or not. A lot of people grow up with traumatising childhoods and don't turn into baby killing monsters. No excuses.
literally no one is positing that as an "excuse". See, humans seek to explain thing and those circumstances are used to explain. A lot of people with *traumatic* (traumatising is not the correct form) childhoods go on to beat their children, drink a lot, beat their spouses/significant others, raise their children the same way they were raised etc., it's called the inter-generational transmission of violence and partially explains the ills of society and what causes them. sometimes people like background knowledge and other facts to explain occurrences.
I think Reve Walsh deserves more credit. John Walsh has said she was his rock through all this even when he wanted to give up. She doesn't even have her own Wikipedia page.
Interesting thing about Dahmer is that when he was asked about where would he pick up his victims in the interview with Stone Phillips, he said "At bath houses, bars..." then he hesitated for a second and said "Shopping malls". Only victim that Dahmer met NEAR the mall was David Thomas, but he didnt pick him up in the mall. Maybe he was thinking of Adam Walsh.
So you didn't naturally wonder when hearing "Code Adam" what it meant? This would stand out to me in a HUGE way. Public schools and most private schools as well, don't teach critical thinking skills so I don't blame you. They actually go out of their way to make it so you don't learn how to think for yourself. Keep this in mind and start asking questions about EVERYthing.
Admittedly I don't know much about Toole, but I think because of his IQ he could easily be convinced of things, so the way the questions were asked worry me. However it's really possible he did this, I believe it. But I'd feel a lot better if the evidence didn't go missing. (I was thinking maybe someone sold the car for some extra cash)
They should still air America's Most Wanted. I don't know if they do or not. They should have similar shows air in different countries with that country's specific cases.
People always look creepy in mug shots after you know they’re murderers. I saw a program years ago with all these kids ages 4-6, and they had all been going through a class about stranger dangers, and their parents had been discussing with them as well. They were put to some kind of test by having a stranger lure them away, and almost every child went with the stranger. No emotional harm came to the kids, but it just proves that these guys are persuasive and know how to trick a child. Back when this happened to Adam, nobody was teaching their kids anything, or worried about leaving their kids like his mom did. My mom always let me hang out in toy departments in any store we were in while she shopped (in the 70s). All kids did this. Thing is though, the guy could have grabbed him and covered his mouth. There weren’t security cameras everywhere back then. It wouldn’t have been hard.
Darkwing Duck you never saw the picture of otis toole’s car where there is a lot of blood and you can see the outline of a head!! A child’s head!!! Even John and Reve Walsh said it was Adam!! Just like toole said: I cut of his head and threw it in the back!! The police lost the car and everything in it otherwise they could have tested for DNA!!
Regarding the issue of responsibility of Sears and the Hollywood Mallin Adam's abduction: John and Reve Walsh did sue Sears and the Hollywood Mall in 1983, though they dropped the suit after the defendants' attorneys got a hold of the case file and warned the Walshes that the affair Reve was having with a family friend when Adam was abducted would become public as part of court proceedings. The Sears security guard was a 17-year high school girl. IIR, it was her second or third day on the job. Her story of what happened was: two black kids and two white kids were fighting over the controls at the Atari display. She asked the two black kids if their parents were in the store. They said no, and she ordered them to leave through the store's north entrance. Then she turned to the two white kids and asked the older one if their parents were in the store. He said no, and she ordered both of them to leave through the store's west entrance. She later admitted that when shown a photo of Adam she recognized him as being the younger white kid. He apparently never spoke up, and she said she thought the two white kids were brothers. It was theorized that Adam became disoriented when he was put out of the store through the west entrance because he and his mother always entered the store through the north entrance. This scenario has him standing bewildered outside the west entrance, perhaps waiting for his mother to come find him, when a bad guy found him first. Neither the older white kid, nor the two black kids, have ever been conclusively identified.
OMG!These were totally different times in the early 1980s.I can't believe how heartless some people can be.I'm sure Adam's mother felt remorse and blames herself for what happened.If she was having an affair what the hell does that have to do with her as a mother?Nobody has the right to judge anyone.
Reportedly, court records of documents filed by Sears include their security-camera CCTV proof that Reve Walsh was in the Sears store for 90 minutes away from Adam Walsh, and not the 10-15 minutes that others have claimed. She neglected him for something more important.
I put a lot of credence behind the guy that says he saw Dahmer at the mall that day, he pretty logically shoots down a ton of the evidence supposedly pointing to Ottis. The face stain on the carpet for instance is so ridiculous... and the fact that Ottis had no clue what happened other than what was public knowledge and he even got half that wrong... at the end of the day the cops completely screwed this one by not writing down most of the interviews. If we had those interviews we could look at them with fresh eyes and find clues. Instead the cops talked to hundreds of people and likely misinterpreted half of what they heard like anybody would. If they followed procedure this case would be solved beyond reasonable doubt. Ottis’ testimony sounds like nonsense to me but I agree dahmer likely would have admitted it... unless he just didn’t want to be known as a child killer. Brainscratcher indeed!
It wasn’t Dahmer, he admitted everything and tried helping police after his arrest and up to the day he died. Jeffrey had a lot of remorse and even he couldn’t understand why he did what he did. He fully acknowledged there was something wrong with him and admitted he would most likely kill again if released and was happy he was incarcerated purely so he wouldn’t hurt more people. Dahmer would’ve admitted to Adams murder if he was responsible.
@Donnell Okafor never said it was Dahmer who did it. Lol. Smoking gun? I've traveled to Hollywood frm Miami and its very close. I still think Otis did it. But, he told alot of lies.
@@denisekristen7620 I have no idea who killed Adam Walsh. I do know for a fact, without a shadow of a doubt that Dahmer was brutalized, tormented and killed in Wisconsin Dept of Corrections. From the onset of his incarceration at WDOC Dahmer was tormented by fellow inmates and SOME staff looked the other way. I don’t know for a fact that C/O’s took part in threatening and abusing Dahmer. I DO know for a fact inmates did and some C/O’s had no problem with it. Dahmer was targeted (rightfully so) by inmates that were POC. Several of Dahmer’s victims were young POC. He preyed upon young gay minorities many homeless and addicted to drugs. Several of his victims were runaways bc their home life was horrible. Others were runaways bc their families did not accept their sexuality. The AA community hated Dahmer both outside of prison and in prison. Again, rightfully so. It wasn’t only minority inmates that hated Dahmer. Almost all inmates he was in contact with hated him. He may have come across as “remorseful” in some interviews but his behavior in WDOC was to contrary. He liked to make “creations” with his food in the chow hall. He was partial to ketchup as he used it as “blood” in his creations. He was jumped in the chow hall numerous times. He was also responsible for inmates not having access to ketchup for periods of time. Had Dahmer admitted to being a child killer, he knew fellow inmates would likely kill him. He wasn’t being treated well by prison staff, imagine if he’d admitted to being a child killer. Additionally, Dahmer was serving life sentences in WDOC. Had he admitted to killing Adam, Florida would have sentenced him to death. Again, IDK if Dahmer killed Adam. I do know if he valued his safety at all he would not have confessed.
I take all this abuse claimed by these monsters with a grain of salt.u never know wether to believe it or not.some of this crap can be self serving for sure
+TheMYERSFAN25 well,it isn't solved,you're right.Everyone who can think critically knows it isn't Ottis Toole.There is a lot about this case that is murky and doesn't add up.
I don't think it conclusively was solved from a DNA standpoint, but it you read the book "Bringing Adam Home", you may be a bit more convinced. They found a photo of a blood stain on the back of Toole's floor board (where he originally claimed he put Adam's head:( poor baby) that looked JUST LIKE a face with eyes and a nose. I believe it was Toole who did it. I think John Walsh has excellent instincts and he believes this guy killed his son too. If stupid law enforcement hadn't bungled the case SOO bad, and hadn't LOST TOOLE'S CAR, the case would undoubtedly be solved.
Law enforcement LOST TOOLE'S CAR!!!! That could have made the whole case...but they couldn't test for blood because the car was LOST. Any blood they did find, I believe it was too degraded.
m9mike9 the 80s were a different time... and it's all the bad things that happened, because parents trusted society at large... that we now wouldn't leave our own kids alone in a store.
Kids are raised 100% differently today. It's almost sad. Kids are just way too overprotected today. Parenting is really bad, especially in the US. And not because the parents don't mean well, but because they don't know any better. Kids are spoiled so much, which is one of the worst possible things you could do to a kid. And overprotecting them is almost juat as bad. They will grow up to be a very scared but entitled person. 2 very bad combinations.
There's a whole debate in the UK right now about overprotective parenting...they're citing it as the reason that kids aren't resilient any more. It's much wider than just not being allowed out by yourself to play, but that's one factor.
AlphaDElthaXray: My kids were overprotected. But they were not spoiled rotten. I still made them do their chores. I still taught them to mind their manners. I still taught them to be respectful. I still taught them to be tolerant. One thing really has nothing to do with the other Regarding being spoiled and overprotected. . I let my kids play, but I didn't let them go off to play alone when they were really young. I would let them bring friends over, or I would get to know their friends' parents before they could play at their friends' houses. I didn't let them wander off at the grocery stores when they were really young. I admit I overprotected them. I also allowed them to go outside and ride their bikes and play sports. But I always knew where they were. They are all adults now and are great people. Actually, my youngest son told me a couple years ago, "you know mom, I used to get mad at you for not allowing me to just do whatever my friends did and stay out late at night. THANK YOU for not allowing me to just run around with my friends and do what I wanted to do." Kids need limits. They need rules. On one hand, I would have loved to have been able to just let my kids go off to play all day on a saturday and let them be happy-go-lucky kids...but sadly I knew I couldn't. There are just too many horrible things that can happen out there.
People do fire pottery in their backyards in pit kilns, so I don't find it far fetched that someone could cremate a body if they really wanted to. You'd have to worry about the smell though. People would notice I'm sure.
Code Adam is a big thing along with Amber Alert for missing kids and Silver Alerts for missing seniors. Never had an Amber Alert but I had Silver Alerts. Thank God the missing seniors have all been found safely!
Everyone gives the mother a hard time for leaving a six year old alone and for a long time but it was definitely a different time back then and she thought he would be watched by the store clerk. Also why give her hell when clearly her child has been murdered.....you think she doesn't regret that decision every day of her life?
Brian Waltman supposedly... but the cops didn’t write down or record half the interviews! So once they decided Ottis did it, all the little clues that may have pointed to someone else were forgotten. Supposedly the security guard was a young girl who says she never told the cops she threw anybody out of the store but since we don’t have a report who the hell knows. Cops screwed the pooch on this one.
You know my mind is twisted right now right John .. after all I have been reading .... goodness... I am happy that John Walsh and his family were able to channel there energy into helping so many others..
There's alot in the media at the moment about this boy and his family. High profile family, very high profile connections, possible Epstein connections. A guy has come forward claiming to be Adam Walsh and his sister is in contact with the man and says he has alot of information that was never released to the public. It would be great if you could do a review on this case as more comes out about it. Would love to hear your opinion.
I just heard about the controversy and would like to learn more...from a neutral perspective. There are some very serious allegations being made, which doesn't automatically make them true. It seems like the public is jumping to conclusions. I'd like to learn the facts of the case.
I’ve seen you leave this same comment a couple dozen times. Any content regarding the Walsh’s you’re leaving the same comment. Why are you intent on spreading vile gossip about Mr John Walsh? Why are you intent to exploit his mentally unwell daughter? Meghan Walsh is making the rounds on TINY YT channels claiming Mr Walsh is a “predator” and “runs a child trafficking ring”. It’s absolutely disgusting. I’ll attach the following excerpt from one or MW’s official court cases. NATURE OF COMPLAINT “On June 2, 2022, the Department of Children and Families, received allegations of neglect for threatened harm. According to DCF, Child Protective Investigator Supervisor (CPIS) Thomas Loveland, the report was against Meghan Walsh (DOB 07/15/19’ 82), which included allegations of SUBSTANCE ABUSE, and that she had an at HOME BIRTH in order to avoid her child being taken from by DCF. CPIS Loveland advised Walsh has an OPEN DEPENDENCY case in Indian River County (312021DP454A) in reference to her other THREE children. Shelter Order from April 16, 2021 from the above referenced case in which Walsh's, three other minor children were REMOVED from her care. Her children were removed due to SUBSTANCE ABUSE, untreated MENTAL HEALTH issues, NEGLECT, EMOTIONAL ABUSE, and MENTAL INJURY to her children. Walsh was ORDERED by the court to enter into an ongoing CASE PLAN to rectify the circumstances in the home in order to REUNIFY her children into her care. Among numerous tasks she was ORDERED to comply with, there were recommendations that she obtain a PSYCHOLOGICAL, PSYCHIATRIC, and SUBSTANCE ABUSE evaluation, which she FAILED to COMPLY with fully.” Public Record Indian River Clerk of Courts. Anyone with sense doesn’t accept defamation and slander against a respected public figure without proof. There is NO PROOF that Mr Walsh “sold Adam”. The woman claiming to be Adam Walsh on YT is as disturbed as MW and anyone that could believe such lunacy.
I'd sue the mall if I was the parents it the store fault for tossing out a 6 year old who has nothing to do with the 2 boys I get the gared was 17 but still I'd sue them
Toole did it John believed him when he confessed he talked to ottis a number of times and I am sure he told John things that only the killer would know. Dahmer did not do it he was no where near the Sears store plus Adam did not fit his m.o. either way it was a sad and terrible thing that happened.
another somewhat famous group of missing children are the "Runaway Train" kids. lotta unhappy endings with their stories. did some research a few years back & I don't think even one possitive outcome has yet occurred I don't think.
Hi, John - I feel like I'm piling on here, so hopefully you don't mind being inundated with suggestions for show ideas. For Searchlight, another case I've followed is that of Michelle Parker, from the Orlando area. A few years back, the newly separated single mom disappeared after dropping her kids off with her ex-fiancé. Her car was found later. Incidentally, she went missing on the air date of the "People's Court" episode she and her ex-fiancé were featured on, squabbling over her engagement ring. I've also been interested in the disappearances of: Tara Grinsted, a beloved young teacher, who went missing from her home during the night; Lauren Spierer, a University of Indiana junior who disappeared between dorm buildings after a night of partying; and Robyn Gardner, another woman who vanished while vacationing in Aruba. Keep up the great, hard work! I'll happily share research I come across.
If anyone's interested in the supposed picture of the blood on the floorboard, Willis Morgan who claims he saw Dahmer in the mall that day, has illustrated that while that sounds compelling, if you look at the source photo it doesn't add up... it's much too small to be a 'face' but after the detective cropped the image it made it appear ghastly. You can see it here if the link is allowed by the uploader : frustratedwitness.com/junk.html
Since Adam Walsh got kidnapped and got killed by Ottis Toole, I sure hope all sears stores clerks and security guards are on top guard and made sure all kids under six are with their parents. Now for the older kids, the security guards made sure they got on the city bus or they had contact with their parents. Even though it was a different time back then. Little kids at the age of 6 should have been with their parents at all times or in school. I was ten years old when Adam Wash got kidnapped. Still to this day in the present life kids of all ages can still get kidnapped, abducted or killed may be both with no trace of ever finding them. Just like the Story of 18 year old. Disappearance of Natalie Holloway who got kidnapped abducted from Alabama, Who went on a class trip to Aruba a Dutch island in the Caribbean.teenager Natalee Holloway, some how disappeared during a trip to Aruba in 2005.
Sorry, i can't write too much in the comments, its prevented. But Jeffery Dahmer... That is stretching it I think. If Jeffery had him, he would never have left Jeffery. This serial killer was unique to the core, in that he wanted his victims/lovers to stay around forever, the flat smelling of decomp and cooking heads and what not this man ventured into, but he always keept them close by. Just my personal thoughts.
And you have a story that does not make sense whatsoever just doesn't add up maybe you need to look at the whole situation and its entirety to understand what is really going on I mean isn't it very odd that with death comes Fame and Fortune the majority of the population has not woken up by now then they never will open your eyes as wide as you can then maybe you will see this for what it really is. Start from the beginning meaning watch all the old interviews with the parents while the child was still missing and then watch the others after the remains were found
Toole and Lucas were claiming to be responsible for many murders. It turned out that many of these confessions were to clear up cases for the police. There is a video on here that goes into detail about that very subject. Many ppl know that neither one of those men could have killed their family member. They were used to close up cases that couldn't be solved, such a shame!
I dont believe this Ottis guy killed him. Too much coincidence that the movie came out 2-3 weeks before he confessed. I would say whoever did it is probably dead now themselves. So much time has passed.
I don't think Toole or Dahmer killed that kid. It was someone else who did it...and that person is either still alive and doing very well in life with dark secrets like this in his subconscious, or is now dead and took that secret with him to the grave. I believe the child's head was not severed from the body until very close to the day it was discovered, considering the condition it was apparently in when it was found. That child was kidnapped and held captive for over two weeks, then finally was killed. It's tragic because no other part of the child's body was ever recovered, no one will ever truly know who killed him. And I can't even imagine that child's experience in captivity, those final moments, how terrifying an experience that all must have been.
Jefferey Dahmer had a very distinct victim he was looking for and Adam does not fit it what so ever, that author didn't solve shit , he just wants to make a few bucks. smh
If you buy the book on Kendall the guy makes under a dollar for christ sake. You think Toole is smart enough to know how to do shit like the skills Dahmer had? hell just a few weeks before Adam went missing Dahmer found a dead body outside of here he worked in miami. What a coincidence
If the author wanted to make some real money he could of done a fiction murder and everyone would be able to buy it without accusing him of making money.
John Walsh is confident that Toole killed Adam, and I'm assuming he has info the public doesn't. As long as he says Toole did it, I'll believe him. Amazing human being, John Walsh. I'm glad they were able to get some closure finally.
Ottis Toole ... sounds problematic... This crime probably involved someone that would be sneaky....and maybe a little intelligent... I wonder if it was someone that was trying to get back at Mr or Mrs Walsh ... it not probable... of course ... still maybe worth research... a decapitated boy and no body... it’s possible...
supposedly dahmer's father was a chemist for the government. have you ever heard the story about a school trip to washington, dc dahmer attended while in high school? dahmer asked his class mates if they wished to have a tour of the white house. his fellow student scoffed that the weird guy in their class could arrange such a tour. dahmer walked over to a pay phone and dialed directly to the white house and spoke with vice-president walter mondale. the tour was arranged ... immediately. when the class arrived at the white house the vice-president called dahmer by his name.
What I can't believe is why a mother would leave a six-year-old child alone to go look at a FREAKING LAMP!!! TAKE THE CHILD WITH YOU!!! I don't care if she was only gone for a few minutes - a few minutes is all it takes. Who knows, Adam may still be alive today if not for his mother's actions. UNBELIEVABLE.
I always wondered about the boys at the video game who were kicked out with him. Or the security guard who escorted them outside. They would've been the last ones to see or interact with Adam before he was abducted.
Hey John, just wanted to say I love your brain scratch series! I just found your channel a few days ago and can't stop watching! Keep up the great work buddy,
The Jeffrey Dahmer thing🤦♀️ I mean I’m open minded and when I looked into that I immediately realized it’s bull. These people clearly are motivated my money. Love your channel 💜
If theyd let him finnish Dhamer aproached Willis in a radio Shack attempting to make small talk (could have been cruising) he seemed drunked and was looking at him strangly and smiling, Willis later saw him exit and enter sears, Dhamer had been dscharged at the time and was living homeless in FL HE called home scared when he said "rat ran across him on the beach" could it be he'd done something he was running from he was released from military for bring Disturbed.. chances are given Dhamers progression i think in this desprate time kiddnapping a defenseless boy may seem an option his compulsions and addiction to booze prolly had him full on at this spoint, Should be noticed he did what he did after the first murder of the hitch hike and atempted to not kill again, hed already killed at 18, it also should be noted theyr are other wittnesses that saw Dhamer including other atempts b4 Adam and He even may have worked as a Bus boy near the mall, and Toole confessed during a slew of confessions that cold case det. where loving, and later both he and lucas where exposed as liars.Dhamer was embarced at the ages of some of his kills i belive Adam was his darkest secret.
Uuuummmmm........ I've read through a lot of the Jeffrey Dahmer F.B.I files, and read every book that I can read, and I find there are some things about Jeffrey that never made it to the public's forefront. Alright so, chronologically after Jeff's first murder he joined the army and went into the police program. He was stationed in Alabama. He washed out of that program and was sent to around Houston Texas for medic training. In his time in basic training he became a sharpshooter and was considered a marksman with a pistol. So, Jeff excelled with guns and through his life long obsession and military training he had a great understanding of human anatomy. Meanwhile, he doesn't use a gun in any murder. Wouldn't you want an assassin with this knowledge. Wait, doesn't the military train assassin's? Also unlike in the movies people sometimes survive one in the head and one in the chest. Nobody survives decapitation. Was decapitation a fixation or a educated answer? Could Jeffrey Dahmer have been a military assassin? Jeffrey was then stationed in Germany, where he sexually assaulted 2 men. One was his roomate. His roomate is now on disability, from being raped and tortured by Jeffrey Dahmer. This was all reported. The roommate also reported Jeff coming back to the room in bloodstained fatigues after curfew and Jeff was not even asked about the incidences. Jeff then repeatedly came to work drunk, refused rehab and honorably discharged. Jeff was sent to south Carolina and discharged. The military bought him a plane ticket to Miami. No residence, no taxes paid, no paper trail. Very professional. In the months leading up to the abduction, there is eye witness testimony of Ottis Toole hanging around a flamboyantly gay man with blond hair blue eyes. They were known to hang out at a bar that catered to the hand of death cult, which was affiliated with the process church. Now the story is hear say, but there was a bar that catered to the cult, which can be connected back to the process church, and Ottis is affiliated with the hand of death cult and Jeffrey seems to have a connection to the process church through brother John Paul Renereri. Jeffrey gets a job working at a sub shop getting paid under the table. No paper trail. The shop uses vans to deliver subs (1 is blue), and the owner of the sub shop has said that Jeffrey had been allowed to use the vans for personal use. In July Adam was abducted. One witness did report seeing a boy being thrown into a blue van. 6 weeks later the child's head was found. In September 1981Jeffrey left Miami and moved in with his grandmother. So Jeff left Miami a couple of weeks after the head was found. Two months after the Tuomi killing, Dahmer encountered a 14-year-old Native American male prostitute named James Doxtator. He was also arrested for drugging and sexually fondling a 13-year-old boy whom he had lured to his home on the pretext of posing nude for photographs. Jeff also had his way with the boy but would only serve a year in jail. Jeffrey also abducted the brother of the victim years later, he was the victim who escaped the apartment to only be brought back to Jeffrey's apartment by the police. He was also arrested for playing with himself in front of children. I say this because the facts suggest that Dahmer did target minors. This nonsense that Jeffrey is too good for this crime in the chat is not backed up by the facts. I believe the video also makes this claim. Sorry not true. Did he do it? IDK. Jeff's words, "who ever killed Adam Walsh could never live in prison." Jeff died not too long after. Why could no one who killed Adam live in prison? Was there a hit on Jeff?
Dice found, Umuofia Umbrellas I Lost. You think zoo I can not. Schultz , I used the fucking Hand Saw . You laughed then handed me the hatchet. Then you used the chicken saw.
After looking into henry Lee lucius, I can see o tole just being set up to close the case. Henery was convict of 120 murders, any law man with an open murder can close there case by just offering Henry a pack of cigarettes
kate davenporty The big deal on this one was at the end of the movie they scrolled through numerous pictures and names of missing kids to bring them to national attention. One of the kids ended up being the rapper Bizzy Bone from Bone Thugs n Harmony who they found on an native reservation not far from me. I listened to that group in the mid 90s when in highschool but learned of the kidnapping bit much later. Seems that movie has interjected itself into my life numerous times for some odd reason.
+adam tarver oh i see.Well,that's great then.I am unfamiliar with the band,sounds like rap which i am not into personally haha,but that is wonderful to bring attention to the heartbreaking issue of missing kids.I might watch it one day then,if i can find a forum that makes that possible (like if it is in a video shop to borrow).Great that Bizzy Bone was found and identified. All the best Adam (love that name;it is my son's middle name) :)
kate davenporty It was a made for tv movie if I remember right. One of those old ABC or CBS type of movies that played on a weekend night. You might find it on youtube really.
Adam was why as a kid growing up in Florida if I walked away from my mother in a store or mall, I would get a whoopin when we’d get home. I think most parents in the 80s and 90s flipped when kids got lost in stores because of Adam’s case.
I noticed that when you're discussing Ottis's statement, and the facts as outlined opposite, you skip over the testimony of Mary Hagan. She stated she saw him, speaking to Adam in the Sears store, in the video area. Therefore very possible Ottis was hanging around there, and followed the boys out when they were evicted. Just playing Devil's Advocate, and you usually seem to play fair with the facts. Curious why you did not debunk the statement that was clear on the screen rather than ignore it?
Are you kin to Bill. I am Scott Harrill. The second kid. My father was Samut Carl Harrill. Mercury Convertbile. Chain saw, Blue cooler. Glue bags. Never mentioned. Have Polaroids of Bill Morgan and my family . I can't sleep at night. sharrill26@gmail.com. Belmont NC. Adam refused to sniff glue. I did, that is why I am Alive...
I have often wondered if you gave John Walsh the ability to go back in time and change things, to save his son from being murdered would he? Well more than likely of course he would. But think of it this way, his sons death set into motion a series of events which led John Walsh down a different career path in helping to fight crime and help countless others. He has done so much good for society, but it all came from the cost of his sons life. I was almost abducted from a department store back around 1978 in Ohio, I would have been around 12 at the time but probably appeared to be 9-10 as I was a very small child. Luckily I was smart enough to run away. I can not help but wonder, I know that it is a one in a million chance but who knows, could have it been the same animal?
Giving the basest of human behaviors...it wouldn't shock me with the notoriety of the case and publicity that the evidence was sold off/pawned off. A descendant of an English Bobbie had a bloodied scarf from one of Jack the Ripper's victims. I did see the pic of the bloody face in the back of Tooles car. I think it was Adams.
I grew up hearing and learning abt the tragic , senseless & sad death of Adam Walsh. I pray for his family John , Rev'e & other family members. John is my hero! I appreciate ALL u do along with ur heartfelt commentary! May God bless u!!!!!!!
Why were the police so intent on the father when he wasn't even at the scene? Are they suggesting he snuck down to the mall and snatched his own child away from his own wife, after somehow knowing Adam would be kicked out of the store? Then they move on to Ottis, who lies as a hobby. They fail to develop film found in Toole's car. Then they lose major pieces of evidence. USELESS COPS.
It is not only proper protocol, but thorough investigation to consider everyone closely related to a missing child/murder. Police were not "intent" on John, as all relatives, especially both parents were investigated.
On Unsolved No More with Retired cold case Detective Ken Mains, he actually speaks of a moment of wondering about Reve, John's wife. She'd said she'd earlier brought Adam in with her to pay Adam's tuition, but the employee who had helped her hadn't seen Adam. Ken Mains does not the parents had any involvement.
He (Toole) could've used the video game lure in the confession only because he watched the 1983 film dedicated to Adam. I believe the detectives did a poor job by not recording audio and video of Toole as they drove around with him to the crime scene.
Also you guys need to know more about John and his wife before during and after his son's death. There's alot of secrets that people don't know about him and his wife that needs to be addressed also. Look at what he's doing to his own child Meghan Walsh right now
I met John Walsh at Universal Studios Islands of Adventure in Orlando Florida. He talked to me briefly near the one foot court and shook my hand. I was about 14 at the time and only knew him from the TV show America's Most Wanted. After my mom told me the story of why he started that it made me cry (as a boy) and as a man of 40 now, John Walsh is a personal hero of mine. He turned this horrible awful thing into saving the lives of hundreds of children that would've certainly been harmed or continued to be harmed by the filth that John Walsh targets. God bless John Walsh.
As awful as this case is i want to say everything happens for a reason. People say why would God let this happen to a child and i have no answer and the only thing i can say is this the loss of Adam put John on a path that brought attention to so many lost and stolen children and brought many home and gave closure to million of families. This case made parents see how fast your child could be taken . In a blink of an eye they could be gone forever and the strength of John and Reve truly amazes me
The exact same thing happened to my eye in April/May of this year. Some of the blood actually circled my iris perfectly and I thought it looked so cool. I was so sad when my eye cleared up, lol.
what if he didn't kill him what if he just brought him to some people that did kill him. And he did this for money or something else. if it happened that way he wouldn't have knowledge of what happened to Adam he would only know up to the point where he delivered at him to these people. I want some videos where they say and I think even he said he didn't do it alone
I think the whole idea of Jeffery dahmer being involved is just ridiculous. Dahmer never dodged any question. He answered everything as detailed as he could. I just think the was being very straightforward and honest.
The kid was six when he dissappeared/was murdered. If he had a filling in his tooth at that age, and lived, he would've lost that tooth a few years later with the rest of his milk teeth, so why is that filling and that tooth being used as a possible identifying marker?
Great episode. I tend to think Toole was just a serial confessor getting attention and special privileges for doing so. Lucas and Toole were con men so they were just conning law enforcement. As far as the luminol stain, I can see the face when they show the enhanced version, but without it I can't make it out. Have to wonder if we have pareidolia working out the face for people eager to see it and then enhancing it so others will too. True Crime Garage podcast covered this case a while back. They have done some cases that I wasn't familiar with in addition to great coverage on well known crimes. This channel and the garage are my favorite true crime and missing person shows.
Great job with story.. your great...this story always saddens me. John Walsh's wife must be overwhelmed with guilt to this day..my mother would have never left me alone and I grew up in 80s as well...Very sad..
+jon122569 no,that's right,he didn't do it.We are not saying "what a good bloke Jeffrey was" by any means,but it is fact that he had a type and he never did anything to a child and wasn't a paedophile so it doesn't fit at all and it's obvious that it isn't him.
+kate davenporty there are exceptions. .u dont know dahmer so you cant say "he didnt do it". read mindhunter..read obsession ( john douglas) read anatomy of motive john douglas he who fights monsters resseler the book by park dietz a serial killer sometimes makes exceptions
There was a video I saw last week on a caught killer who 'confessed' to this murder; Edward Wayne Edwards. The problem with this is that he 'confessed' to every murder since the Black Dahlia. The West Memphis boys that were killed, he not only confessed to those murders, he showed up on the documentary taking place in the cemetery, with a fake, long, gray beard. The same beard he supposedly played Santa Claus in with JonBenet Ramsey the following December. I don't know what to think about EWE. He may have confessed, but take it with a grain of salt. He was caught for murders, but he confessed to every murder because he wanted to be killed rather than linger in prison. Thanks to the both of you for this compilation.
+Rick The Explorer™ yeah you notice that, he was trying to be some killer genius. he sounded credible at the get go but then when he brought up the wm3 case i just said this dude is full of crap.
+esser yep this dude John Cameron wrote a book about Edwards & he ramp up trying to sell it behind the Avery case. He claims Edwards killed Halbach & framed Avery. Also claims Jimmy Hoffa, Lacy Peterson, Atlanta child killer.... like u he lost all credibility w/ me.
Adam Walsh went missing two days before the royal wedding of Charles and Diana, so it's understandable why you didn't learn about this in the UK at the time.
Ottis Toole was just that, a tool. He and Lucas were LEOs best friends. They never met a murder they couldn't confess to. Extra commissary, a trip out of prison, whatever, it seems no favor was too small for them to help LE "close the books" on unsolved murders. Note only Lucas, out of 300 some inmates, including women and the mentally handicapped, that Governor George W Bush commuted his death sentence. On a related note, maybe a good brainscratch would be looking into the first biography of Lucas, 'The Hand of Death', wherein Lucas claims to belong to a government run satanic cult. He also claimed many of his murders were actually hits made to look like psycho-sado-sexual incidents to hide true motive. The ramblings of a kook to prop himself up is an easy enough explanation, but doesn't explain why it was pulled from shelves quickly and is still out of print, (only used copies a available on Amazon). Though the stories could be as fabricated as the murders he confessed to that were proven he didn't do, it is interesting that he names places associated with the cia affiliated human trafficking group the Finders and now declassified US military training outposts in Mexico.
+EddieT2112 This is VERY INTERESTING! So do you know if this was publicized as a book or do you know if I could watch something like a documentary about Lucas and these so called Hit's for a Satanic Cult with in our government?
+EddieT2112 Wow, that's interesting. Makes me also think about that old documentary that was on about the boys being used and trafficked by government types. I can't recall what it's called but it's on youtube and the guy who was exposing it was killed I think. Then the Franklin coverup as well. It also brings to mind the work of Dave MacGowan about mind control and serial killers. Lots of podcasts floating interviewing him on the subject. Dave passed away from cancer after he put that book out about Laurel Canyon and the odd 60s rock stars ties with a military base up there. He had some kind of meeting with Hollywood types as the book drew a lot of attention. Wasn't long after that he had a fast moving deadly cancer.
I've heard about Franklin, I am not sure about the other case, it may be the same one. The Finders were caught in northern Florida with a van filled with kids. The men transporting them gave up the whole operation to the fbi and there was to be a big sting and a call came in and the men were released and it all went away. There are fbi docs out there, ( I think the lead agent was very sour about letting it go and released the docs.) But even though the capture was front page national news, there was no follow up by any msm.
The first victim of Dahmer in Ohio in 1978, was a casual FRIEND of his who happened to be hitchhiking through town. He strangled the Man and buried him under his Parent's backyard. Dahmer was stationed in Ft. Meyers,FL during 1980 and 1981. Walsh's murder occurred in Hollywood which is WELL away from Ft. Meyers(Over 150 miles). It was a Military Base so Dahmer would NOT have access to the Broward Co area nor would he have any reason to drive 3 hours off base to Hollywood. There is NO evidence that Dahmer was EVER in Hollywood,FL, no paper trail, nothing. Dahmer's youngest victim was a 14 year old kid who worked at a Milwaukee Gay Bar Dahmer preyed for victims at. The reason why Dahmer targeted the boy, because he happened to look older than his age. The kid looked 18 years old. Dahmer also strangled him to kill him. www.cityftmyers.com/ This is where Dahmer was at until 1982. That's over 150 miles away from Adam Walsh's home. Walsh was decapitated. That's how he was killed. Dahmer dismembered his victims post mortem. And mentioned time and time again that he strangled them to kill them. Ottis Toole KILLED Adam Walsh. It was later proven he did when Hollywood police confessed that Toole was always their main suspect, but they had botched the case by allowing his car to be destroyed. They took photos showing a Child's faceprint, BLOOD all over the seat of Toole's car, a Machete and Maps to Hollywood FL which ALL point to Toole being Walsh's killer. Eyewitnesses in 1981 specifically describe the Man they saw Adam getting into the Car with as White, a Dirty looking Drifter between the ages of 35-40 with a beard,receding hairline wearing a navy blue Member's Only Shirt, they described his Car as being Goldenrod and looking like a 1978 Model Plymouth. Toole was also a pedophile. He had diaries about kidnapping a young boy and turning him into his "Love Child Slave". Toole also DID have prior arrest records of Child Molestations from 1977 and 1978 and on top of that practiced Satanism. Toole confessed in 1983 that he was the murderer, wrote John a sickening Ransom letter, recanted later but his Niece states that on his deathbed that he admitted and confessed that he indeed had killed Adam Walsh. Just because he recanted over and over again does NOT mean he's not guilty. The man could Read and Write just perfectly and the circumstantial evidence against him is just WAY Too much and would have certainly been enough to send him to Death Row in '82. Ottis Elwood Toole killed Adam Walsh.
I never saw this as a closed case. O'tool seemed to lack the iq it would take to kidnap in public, he was notable, not really a man I think children would easily follow. And all the discrepancies of both mens stories, always seemed to me like police reaching a little to fare in an apparent wrong direction. O'Tools lover/Best friend Henry Lee Lucas seem more to the talking guy, setting all sorts of stories into motion, because he love the publicity. Ack in the 90's I read up on Henry which lead me to O'Tool, and I remembering thinking what poor creatures, sad. But I could not see them as murders, they seemed to self-destructive, and confused, to have what it takes to carry out such a horrific thing, let alone get away with it, despite going over state lines. I don't know, but this 'clousure' never felt right to me. But thx for sharing yours and your trams point of view. Always interesting to see what other picks up along the way. But I still do wonder if the right offender was found?
your videos are so addictive and intriguing. You and your researchers do an amazing job. I don't think Ottis did it, I think he would have admitted to anything honestly, keep up the amazing work
John you just made me snarf my coffee through my nose “Oh! That’s the chin that I remember!!”.... I read a book that John Walsh helped write with the main investigator, I believe it was called “Bringing Adam Home”. I read the E-Book and it says in (I think it’s 2015 could be 2012), that DNA and some photos found after being undeveloped for all those years, Ottis Toole was indeed the killer of Adam Walsh. 100% and John Walsh, as ive said, helped write this book. John Walsh agrees that this disgusting demon Ottis killed his precious little boy....
I switched these with Dateline to watch before bedtime and one thing that strikes me as unique about these Brainscratchers: The host is very compassionate. He seems like he sincerely cares about these cases and the people who disappear.
I agree. Not sensationalistic at all. He conveys so much empathy and respect.
Well, one would hope so. That is the normal human response to a child's murder.
So true. I don’t like some of the women doing True Crime, just because they seem so arrogant and don’t come across as genuine at all. They are not all like that though, I love Stephanie Harlow, for example, I love Kendall Rae and Kimbyrleigha… those are some of the few that I do enjoy watching. Also Stephanie Soo, but you have to like mukbang + true crime videos to like her content. But she’s always respectful to the victims and their families. Also, Unsolved No More with detective Ken Mains!! But yeah, those are the main channels of true crime content that I watch.
"Tears of Rage: From Grieving Father to Crusader for Justice" written by John Walsh tells the whole story. Very good read.
@Mister Physics calling bs on what?
@@hama1778 that it is not the "whole story".
@@karaa7595 what is not the whole story? This video or the book the comment about talks about? And where can i find the " whole story"? What are you talking about?
That's how the Illuminati works u sacerfice someone close to u for fortune and fame before this incident nobody even knew who Richard Walsh was then all of a sudden he's the host of America's most wanted
In there, police revealed adam's clothing had been dug up from Toole's mother's backyard.
I can't believe store security put a 6 year old out of the store. Why is this never mentioned or discussed ?
+kevinth86 I think they assumed he was with the older boys.
+Jiggley Krowzer really? in the show he often mentioned his son.
very sad, but amazing that the father John went on to do that show.
+Jiggley Krowzer "Satanic"???
+kevinth86 terrible,i agree.
+Maria de vries yes! i totally agree! and i remember Jamie Bulger well and that was not his mothers fault at all.According to Sears in response to the Walsh's suit,Reve left Adam alone in the store for at least an hour and a half,which is hugely neglectful.But when you hear about what massive cocaine users they were,maybe that explains that.I think there is a whole lot of stuff in the Adam Walsh story that the public will never know.
Haven't finished watching yet, but I just want to say I don't think Jeffery Dahmer killed this kid. This wasn't his victim type nor his MO.
Cyrene the Cat I been saying the same thing every since they said Dahmer was a suspect I don't think neither Toole or Dahmer did it
Nobody with a brain does, and even people without one don’t.
So that guy saw someone kidnapping a kid and he did absolutly nothing?!! Wtf!!
No she kick Adam & the boys out the store.
He wasn't Dahmer's victim type... far too young. Also body disposal is wrong M.O... def not Dahmer.
It was Jefferson Dahmer❗
But also look at Ted Bundy who only murdered woman. This his last victim was a young girl. Maybe Dahmer wanted something new
@@monalisacarey5438 ..He didn't only go after "women" Ted has many teen victims.... it's been a while since I looked into his case but if I remember the 12yrs old was his last victim and he was on the run?
@@monalisacarey5438 Jeffrey Dahmer disposed of Steven Hicks by crushing his bones after flaying him. And throughout his killing sprees Dahmer disposed of various parts and kept certain parts as trophies. Dahmer's youngest attempted victim that is known of was around 12-14. It's not unreasonable to believe that a decade earlier he may have sought out Adam Walsh and killed him. Sadly we may never know if Dahmer did if fact participate in the murder of Adam Walsh.
@@2008DieselPower No.
I have such a hard time believing Ottis Toole killed Adam, he admitted to so many murders that he had nothing to do with. I bet he would've confessed to killing Kennedy if he was asked -_- Maybe he did kill Adam, I mean if John Walsh believes that I don't know. I just get a feeling he didn't do it. This whole story just breaks my heart, Adam was such a cute little boy but I'm glad John Walsh was able to help so many others in Adam's name.
+Jane Toole didn't kill him,that is resoundingly obvious.I don't believe the Walshes think he did either.There is much about this case that is fishy indeed.
there is significant evidence that it may have been Jeffrey dahmers atleast two people said that they saw a man in the mall later on Dahmer was convicted of his killings and both witnesses identified him as the same man they saw.
+Michael at KY there is a book on it. and the author did a interview on darkness radio just look up the real Adam Walsh story darkness radio on youtube.
Conspiracy Bullshit. Like Eyewitness testimony is 100% reliable.
Also Dahmer was NOT a pedophile.
Toole did it. End of Story unless you want to Call John Walsh a liar in his face.
Like what? What else is fishy about this case?
My mom was at the same mall that same day and she and her family remember hearing the intercom at the mall calling for Adam
Cami Hancock that’s deep. What a traumatizing experience
Cami that must have been intense since lost child alerts were rare
John said they refused to make an intercom announcement
@@KaNCeRmm4life that’s what he said in a Interview
Scary
Could you do a series on JonBenet Ramsey's muder ?
That’s a never ending rabbit hole
@@jtarantula3390 that’s the truth!
I have zero sympathy for Ottis, whether he was the killer or not. A lot of people grow up with traumatising childhoods and don't turn into baby killing monsters. No excuses.
literally no one is positing that as an "excuse". See, humans seek to explain thing and those circumstances are used to explain. A lot of people with *traumatic* (traumatising is not the correct form) childhoods go on to beat their children, drink a lot, beat their spouses/significant others, raise their children the same way they were raised etc., it's called the inter-generational transmission of violence and partially explains the ills of society and what causes them. sometimes people like background knowledge and other facts to explain occurrences.
He WAS the killer.
you have to wonder how two men meet, that have murdered previous, and have a conversation about killing people. how does that happen? bregging!?
Seriously! Hey, guess what I did yesterday. Ya, me too! :-|
Hank Moody ...in jail for other offences?
They were lovers so it was prolly pillow talk, ln fact one of the reasons Toole killed was to provide Lucaswith dead girls as he was a necro.
Hank Moody always fascinates me when I think how two absolutely demented humans find eachother in this world.
I always think about that. Like when couples kill people. What are the odds two random people meet and are capable of that?
I think Reve Walsh deserves more credit. John Walsh has said she was his rock through all this even when he wanted to give up. She doesn't even have her own Wikipedia page.
Thank you very much! 🙂
+Bleu Meanie
Thank you for spending so much time doing all of the research.
+Bleu Meanie great research! Really enjoy the cases you cover for John! x
Thank you both! It's great to see John take my ramblings and turn them into an awesome episode!
she was his rock??
bad choice of words in the addiction world
Interesting thing about Dahmer is that when he was asked about where would he pick up his victims in the interview with Stone Phillips, he said "At bath houses, bars..." then he hesitated for a second and said "Shopping malls". Only victim that Dahmer met NEAR the mall was David Thomas, but he didnt pick him up in the mall. Maybe he was thinking of Adam Walsh.
Wow! I never put it together that this case was the reason of Code Adam. I use that phrase so frequently in my job and never connected the dots!
How often do you call a Code Adam?
Courtrhebekah Quite more than expected. I work conventions so lots of kids end up separated from their parents.
starilie ok but how about 1 adam 12
Pretty much like me I've heard of Amber Alert but I didn't know the meaning until I searched up the Wikipedia page for Amber Alert
So you didn't naturally wonder when hearing "Code Adam" what it meant? This would stand out to me in a HUGE way. Public schools and most private schools as well, don't teach critical thinking skills so I don't blame you. They actually go out of their way to make it so you don't learn how to think for yourself. Keep this in mind and start asking questions about EVERYthing.
Admittedly I don't know much about Toole, but I think because of his IQ he could easily be convinced of things, so the way the questions were asked worry me.
However it's really possible he did this, I believe it. But I'd feel a lot better if the evidence didn't go missing.
(I was thinking maybe someone sold the car for some extra cash)
It was Dahmer dude
I think America's most wanted should of kept going cuz still these days alot of children go missing and it angers me.
They should still air America's Most Wanted. I don't know if they do or not. They should have similar shows air in different countries with that country's specific cases.
it airs
Erin They do.
New episodes weekly his son Callahan is also on the show with him
I still wonder how he managed to get the kid to come with him,Ottis was a pretty scary looking guy. I just get this feeling Ottis wasn't the killer.
People always look creepy in mug shots after you know they’re murderers. I saw a program years ago with all these kids ages 4-6, and they had all been going through a class about stranger dangers, and their parents had been discussing with them as well. They were put to some kind of test by having a stranger lure them away, and almost every child went with the stranger. No emotional harm came to the kids, but it just proves that these guys are persuasive and know how to trick a child. Back when this happened to Adam, nobody was teaching their kids anything, or worried about leaving their kids like his mom did. My mom always let me hang out in toy departments in any store we were in while she shopped (in the 70s). All kids did this.
Thing is though, the guy could have grabbed him and covered his mouth. There weren’t security cameras everywhere back then. It wouldn’t have been hard.
Darkwing Duck you never saw the picture of otis toole’s car where there is a lot of blood and you can see the outline of a head!! A child’s head!!! Even John and Reve Walsh said it was Adam!! Just like toole said: I cut of his head and threw it in the back!! The police lost the car and everything in it otherwise they could have tested for DNA!!
Because it wasn't Ottis Toole....the dirty secret is...It was JEFFERY DAHMER...look into it
Regarding the issue of responsibility of Sears and the Hollywood Mallin Adam's abduction:
John and Reve Walsh did sue Sears and the Hollywood Mall in 1983, though they dropped the suit after the defendants' attorneys got a hold of the case file and warned the Walshes that the affair Reve was having with a family friend when Adam was abducted would become public as part of court proceedings.
The Sears security guard was a 17-year high school girl. IIR, it was her second or third day on the job. Her story of what happened was: two black kids and two white kids were fighting over the controls at the Atari display. She asked the two black kids if their parents were in the store. They said no, and she ordered them to leave through the store's north entrance. Then she turned to the two white kids and asked the older one if their parents were in the store. He said no, and she ordered both of them to leave through the store's west entrance.
She later admitted that when shown a photo of Adam she recognized him as being the younger white kid. He apparently never spoke up, and she said she thought the two white kids were brothers. It was theorized that Adam became disoriented when he was put out of the store through the west entrance because he and his mother always entered the store through the north entrance. This scenario has him standing bewildered outside the west entrance, perhaps waiting for his mother to come find him, when a bad guy found him first.
Neither the older white kid, nor the two black kids, have ever been conclusively identified.
I wonder if She has any regret or remorse for allowing the 6 year old boy to be snatched by Ottis Toole.
OMG!These were totally different times in the early 1980s.I can't believe how heartless some people can be.I'm sure Adam's mother felt remorse and blames herself for what happened.If she was having an affair what the hell does that have to do with her as a mother?Nobody has the right to judge anyone.
Reportedly, court records of documents filed by Sears include their security-camera CCTV proof that Reve Walsh was in the Sears store for 90 minutes away from Adam Walsh, and not the 10-15 minutes that others have claimed. She neglected him for something more important.
I put a lot of credence behind the guy that says he saw Dahmer at the mall that day, he pretty logically shoots down a ton of the evidence supposedly pointing to Ottis. The face stain on the carpet for instance is so ridiculous... and the fact that Ottis had no clue what happened other than what was public knowledge and he even got half that wrong... at the end of the day the cops completely screwed this one by not writing down most of the interviews. If we had those interviews we could look at them with fresh eyes and find clues. Instead the cops talked to hundreds of people and likely misinterpreted half of what they heard like anybody would. If they followed procedure this case would be solved beyond reasonable doubt. Ottis’ testimony sounds like nonsense to me but I agree dahmer likely would have admitted it... unless he just didn’t want to be known as a child killer. Brainscratcher indeed!
It wasn’t Dahmer, he admitted everything and tried helping police after his arrest and up to the day he died. Jeffrey had a lot of remorse and even he couldn’t understand why he did what he did. He fully acknowledged there was something wrong with him and admitted he would most likely kill again if released and was happy he was incarcerated purely so he wouldn’t hurt more people. Dahmer would’ve admitted to Adams murder if he was responsible.
@Donnell Okafor Dahmer was in fact in south Fla at the time Adam was taken.
As you say, Dahmer came clean about everything he did. I'm thinking it was Otis.
@Donnell Okafor so far I've found Dahmer lived in Fla 6months in 81. He arrived in March. Dad sent money to go back home end of summer.
@Donnell Okafor never said it was Dahmer who did it. Lol. Smoking gun? I've traveled to Hollywood frm Miami and its very close. I still think Otis did it. But, he told alot of lies.
@@denisekristen7620 I have no idea who killed Adam Walsh.
I do know for a fact, without a shadow of a doubt that Dahmer was brutalized, tormented and killed in Wisconsin Dept of Corrections.
From the onset of his incarceration at WDOC Dahmer was tormented by fellow inmates and SOME staff looked the other way.
I don’t know for a fact that C/O’s took part in threatening and abusing Dahmer.
I DO know for a fact inmates did and some C/O’s had no problem with it.
Dahmer was targeted (rightfully so) by inmates that were POC.
Several of Dahmer’s victims were young POC.
He preyed upon young gay minorities many homeless and addicted to drugs.
Several of his victims were runaways bc their home life was horrible.
Others were runaways bc their families did not accept their sexuality.
The AA community hated Dahmer both outside of prison and in prison.
Again, rightfully so.
It wasn’t only minority inmates that hated Dahmer.
Almost all inmates he was in contact with hated him.
He may have come across as “remorseful” in some interviews but his behavior in WDOC was to contrary.
He liked to make “creations” with his food in the chow hall.
He was partial to ketchup as he used it as “blood” in his creations.
He was jumped in the chow hall numerous times.
He was also responsible for inmates not having access to ketchup for periods of time.
Had Dahmer admitted to being a child killer, he knew fellow inmates would likely kill him.
He wasn’t being treated well by prison staff, imagine if he’d admitted to being a child killer.
Additionally, Dahmer was serving life sentences in WDOC.
Had he admitted to killing Adam, Florida would have sentenced him to death.
Again, IDK if Dahmer killed Adam. I do know if he valued his safety at all he would not have confessed.
I take all this abuse claimed by these monsters with a grain of salt.u never know wether to believe it or not.some of this crap can be self serving for sure
In my opinion, until they've definitively identified the killer(s) the case is deemed "unsolved."
+TheMYERSFAN25 well,it isn't solved,you're right.Everyone who can think critically knows it isn't Ottis Toole.There is a lot about this case that is murky and doesn't add up.
+kate davenporty otis broke kids nose.
I don't think it conclusively was solved from a DNA standpoint, but it you read the book "Bringing Adam Home", you may be a bit more convinced. They found a photo of a blood stain on the back of Toole's floor board (where he originally claimed he put Adam's head:( poor baby) that looked JUST LIKE a face with eyes and a nose. I believe it was Toole who did it. I think John Walsh has excellent instincts and he believes this guy killed his son too. If stupid law enforcement hadn't bungled the case SOO bad, and hadn't LOST TOOLE'S CAR, the case would undoubtedly be solved.
Did they do DNA blood stain tests to see if it was Adam's blood?
Law enforcement LOST TOOLE'S CAR!!!! That could have made the whole case...but they couldn't test for blood because the car was LOST. Any blood they did find, I believe it was too degraded.
Never would I leave my 6 year old alone whilst I was out with him. Never. We go everywhere together.
m9mike9 the 80s were a different time... and it's all the bad things that happened, because parents trusted society at large... that we now wouldn't leave our own kids alone in a store.
Kids are raised 100% differently today. It's almost sad. Kids are just way too overprotected today. Parenting is really bad, especially in the US. And not because the parents don't mean well, but because they don't know any better. Kids are spoiled so much, which is one of the worst possible things you could do to a kid. And overprotecting them is almost juat as bad.
They will grow up to be a very scared but entitled person. 2 very bad combinations.
There's a whole debate in the UK right now about overprotective parenting...they're citing it as the reason that kids aren't resilient any more. It's much wider than just not being allowed out by yourself to play, but that's one factor.
AlphaDElthaXray: My kids were overprotected. But they were not spoiled rotten. I still made them do their chores. I still taught them to mind their manners. I still taught them to be respectful. I still taught them to be tolerant. One thing really has nothing to do with the other Regarding being spoiled and overprotected. . I let my kids play, but I didn't let them go off to play alone when they were really young. I would let them bring friends over, or I would get to know their friends' parents before they could play at their friends' houses. I didn't let them wander off at the grocery stores when they were really young. I admit I overprotected them. I also allowed them to go outside and ride their bikes and play sports. But I always knew where they were. They are all adults now and are great people. Actually, my youngest son told me a couple years ago, "you know mom, I used to get mad at you for not allowing me to just do whatever my friends did and stay out late at night. THANK YOU for not allowing me to just run around with my friends and do what I wanted to do." Kids need limits. They need rules. On one hand, I would have loved to have been able to just let my kids go off to play all day on a saturday and let them be happy-go-lucky kids...but sadly I knew I couldn't. There are just too many horrible things that can happen out there.
The Jolly Roger Show not true, I had a child in the 70's-- I never let him out of my site.....
People do fire pottery in their backyards in pit kilns, so I don't find it far fetched that someone could cremate a body if they really wanted to. You'd have to worry about the smell though. People would notice I'm sure.
code Adam is a big thing when you work retail now....
Not just retail. I've worked in government and law agencies and anytime a child is missing a Code Adam and Amber Alert are issued
Code Adam is a big thing along with Amber Alert for missing kids and Silver Alerts for missing seniors. Never had an Amber Alert but I had Silver Alerts. Thank God the missing seniors have all been found safely!
Everyone gives the mother a hard time for leaving a six year old alone and for a long time but it was definitely a different time back then and she thought he would be watched by the store clerk. Also why give her hell when clearly her child has been murdered.....you think she doesn't regret that decision every day of her life?
were the boys fighting at the mall identified and interviewed?
Brian Waltman supposedly... but the cops didn’t write down or record half the interviews! So once they decided Ottis did it, all the little clues that may have pointed to someone else were forgotten. Supposedly the security guard was a young girl who says she never told the cops she threw anybody out of the store but since we don’t have a report who the hell knows. Cops screwed the pooch on this one.
@@LyonsArcade The cops have messed up on most cases. All cops are good at doing is handing out speeding tickets!
The parents sold the kid into sex slavery... The whole story is a faux pas
@@georgesawtooth And killing people.
THAT was in depth. You deserve many more subscribers, like at least half a milion like right now :D. I'm sure that you will get there sooner or later.
+Lordani66 Thanks so much. My researchers are doing a GREAT job!
You know my mind is twisted right now right John .. after all I have been reading .... goodness... I am happy that John Walsh and his family were able to channel there energy into helping so many others..
There's alot in the media at the moment about this boy and his family. High profile family, very high profile connections, possible Epstein connections. A guy has come forward claiming to be Adam Walsh and his sister is in contact with the man and says he has alot of information that was never released to the public. It would be great if you could do a review on this case as more comes out about it. Would love to hear your opinion.
I just heard about the controversy and would like to learn more...from a neutral perspective. There are some very serious allegations being made, which doesn't automatically make them true. It seems like the public is jumping to conclusions. I'd like to learn the facts of the case.
I’ve seen you leave this same comment a couple dozen times.
Any content regarding the Walsh’s you’re leaving the same comment.
Why are you intent on spreading vile gossip about Mr John Walsh?
Why are you intent to exploit his mentally unwell daughter?
Meghan Walsh is making the rounds on TINY YT channels claiming Mr Walsh is a “predator” and “runs a child trafficking ring”.
It’s absolutely disgusting.
I’ll attach the following excerpt from one or MW’s official court cases.
NATURE OF COMPLAINT
“On June 2, 2022, the Department of Children and Families, received allegations of neglect for threatened harm.
According to DCF, Child Protective Investigator Supervisor (CPIS) Thomas Loveland, the report was against Meghan Walsh (DOB 07/15/19’ 82), which included allegations of SUBSTANCE ABUSE, and that she had an at HOME BIRTH in order to avoid her child being taken from by DCF.
CPIS Loveland advised Walsh has an OPEN DEPENDENCY case in Indian River County (312021DP454A) in reference to her other THREE children.
Shelter Order from April 16, 2021 from the above referenced case in which Walsh's, three other minor children were REMOVED from her care.
Her children were removed due to SUBSTANCE ABUSE, untreated MENTAL HEALTH issues, NEGLECT, EMOTIONAL ABUSE, and MENTAL INJURY to her children.
Walsh was ORDERED by the court to enter into an ongoing CASE PLAN to rectify the circumstances in the home in order to REUNIFY her children into her care.
Among numerous tasks she was ORDERED to comply with, there were recommendations that she obtain a PSYCHOLOGICAL, PSYCHIATRIC, and SUBSTANCE ABUSE evaluation, which she FAILED to COMPLY with fully.”
Public Record Indian River Clerk of Courts.
Anyone with sense doesn’t accept defamation and slander against a respected public figure without proof.
There is NO PROOF that Mr Walsh “sold Adam”.
The woman claiming to be Adam Walsh on YT is as disturbed as MW and anyone that could believe such lunacy.
I'd sue the mall if I was the parents it the store fault for tossing out a 6 year old who has nothing to do with the 2 boys I get the gared was 17 but still I'd sue them
Toole did it John believed him when he confessed he talked to ottis a number of times and I am sure he told John things that only the killer would know. Dahmer did not do it he was no where near the Sears store plus Adam did not fit his m.o. either way it was a sad and terrible thing that happened.
The two guys interviewed by Fox remind me of UFO abductees in movies: "It was DAHMER I swear!"
Idk I've looked into the Dahmer thing and there is a lot of evidence supporting it. Sorry
another somewhat famous group of missing children are the "Runaway Train" kids. lotta unhappy endings with their stories. did some research a few years back & I don't think even one possitive outcome has yet occurred I don't think.
+Chris & Wanda thanks,never heard of that one so will check it out...cheers.
Hi, John - I feel like I'm piling on here, so hopefully you don't mind being inundated with suggestions for show ideas. For Searchlight, another case I've followed is that of Michelle Parker, from the Orlando area. A few years back, the newly separated single mom disappeared after dropping her kids off with her ex-fiancé. Her car was found later. Incidentally, she went missing on the air date of the "People's Court" episode she and her ex-fiancé were featured on, squabbling over her engagement ring.
I've also been interested in the disappearances of: Tara Grinsted, a beloved young teacher, who went missing from her home during the night; Lauren Spierer, a University of Indiana junior who disappeared between dorm buildings after a night of partying; and Robyn Gardner, another woman who vanished while vacationing in Aruba.
Keep up the great, hard work! I'll happily share research I come across.
If anyone's interested in the supposed picture of the blood on the floorboard, Willis Morgan who claims he saw Dahmer in the mall that day, has illustrated that while that sounds compelling, if you look at the source photo it doesn't add up... it's much too small to be a 'face' but after the detective cropped the image it made it appear ghastly. You can see it here if the link is allowed by the uploader : frustratedwitness.com/junk.html
Since Adam Walsh got kidnapped and got killed by Ottis Toole, I sure hope all sears stores clerks and security guards are on top guard and made sure all kids under six are with their parents. Now for the older kids, the security guards made sure they got on the city bus or they had contact with their parents. Even though it was a different time back then. Little kids at the age of 6 should have been with their parents at all times or in school. I was ten years old when Adam Wash got kidnapped. Still to this day in the present life kids of all ages can still get kidnapped, abducted or killed may be both with no trace of ever finding them. Just like the Story of 18 year old. Disappearance of Natalie Holloway who got kidnapped abducted from Alabama, Who went on a class trip to Aruba a Dutch island in the Caribbean.teenager Natalee Holloway, some how disappeared during a trip to Aruba in 2005.
Sorry, i can't write too much in the comments, its prevented. But Jeffery Dahmer... That is stretching it I think. If Jeffery had him, he would never have left Jeffery. This serial killer was unique to the core, in that he wanted his victims/lovers to stay around forever, the flat smelling of decomp and cooking heads and what not this man ventured into, but he always keept them close by. Just my personal thoughts.
Correct. Dahmer didn't do it.
Karima Lachtane...true..disgustingly true :)
And you have a story that does not make sense whatsoever just doesn't add up maybe you need to look at the whole situation and its entirety to understand what is really going on I mean isn't it very odd that with death comes Fame and Fortune the majority of the population has not woken up by now then they never will open your eyes as wide as you can then maybe you will see this for what it really is. Start from the beginning meaning watch all the old interviews with the parents while the child was still missing and then watch the others after the remains were found
Otis Toole wasn't the killer change my mind!!
yes he was open and shut case
Toole and Lucas were claiming to be responsible for many murders. It turned out that many of these confessions were to clear up cases for the police. There is a video on here that goes into detail about that very subject. Many ppl know that neither one of those men could have killed their family member. They were used to close up cases that couldn't be solved, such a shame!
Deeply upsetting and disturbing case. At least some degree of good came out of it and this case has prevented others from happening.
I still don’t believe Ottis toole.
I dont believe this Ottis guy killed him. Too much coincidence that the movie came out 2-3 weeks before he confessed. I would say whoever did it is probably dead now themselves. So much time has passed.
Toole did it.
Overwhelming evidence was found and stacked against him in 2008, 12 years after his death.
philbyification Toole did it.
I don't think Toole or Dahmer killed that kid. It was someone else who did it...and that person is either still alive and doing very well in life with dark secrets like this in his subconscious, or is now dead and took that secret with him to the grave. I believe the child's head was not severed from the body until very close to the day it was discovered, considering the condition it was apparently in when it was found. That child was kidnapped and held captive for over two weeks, then finally was killed. It's tragic because no other part of the child's body was ever recovered, no one will ever truly know who killed him. And I can't even imagine that child's experience in captivity, those final moments, how terrifying an experience that all must have been.
Jefferey Dahmer had a very distinct victim he was looking for and Adam does not fit it what so ever, that author didn't solve shit , he just wants to make a few bucks. smh
If you buy the book on Kendall the guy makes under a dollar for christ sake. You think Toole is smart enough to know how to do shit like the skills Dahmer had?
hell just a few weeks before Adam went missing Dahmer found a dead body outside of here he worked in miami. What a coincidence
If the author wanted to make some real money he could of done a fiction murder and everyone would be able to buy it without accusing him of making money.
John Walsh is confident that Toole killed Adam, and I'm assuming he has info the public doesn't. As long as he says Toole did it, I'll believe him. Amazing human being, John Walsh. I'm glad they were able to get some closure finally.
Thanks for doing this segment! It was something my parents drilled into my head as a young child... Scared the hell outta me... Thanks again!
Ottis Toole ... sounds problematic... This crime probably involved someone that would be sneaky....and maybe a little intelligent...
I wonder if it was someone that was trying to get back at Mr or Mrs Walsh ... it not probable... of course ... still maybe worth research... a decapitated boy and no body... it’s possible...
these killers are so warped who knows who really killed Adam. disturbing
@Mister Physics ??
My mom grew up down the street from Adam Walsh in Hollywood Florida and knew him before he was murdered. What a haunting time! 😬😬
supposedly dahmer's father was a chemist for the government. have you ever heard the story about a school trip to washington, dc dahmer attended while in high school? dahmer asked his class mates if they wished to have a tour of the white house. his fellow student scoffed that the weird guy in their class could arrange such a tour. dahmer walked over to a pay phone and dialed directly to the white house and spoke with vice-president walter mondale. the tour was arranged ... immediately. when the class arrived at the white house the vice-president called dahmer by his name.
What I can't believe is why a mother would leave a six-year-old child alone to go look at a FREAKING LAMP!!! TAKE THE CHILD WITH YOU!!! I don't care if she was only gone for a few minutes - a few minutes is all it takes. Who knows, Adam may still be alive today if not for his mother's actions. UNBELIEVABLE.
I always wondered about the boys at the video game who were kicked out with him. Or the security guard who escorted them outside. They would've been the last ones to see or interact with Adam before he was abducted.
Hey John, just wanted to say I love your brain scratch series! I just found your channel a few days ago and can't stop watching! Keep up the great work buddy,
+C r y p t u r Thank you and welcome to the channel!
RIP Adam.
Let's just gloss over the fact Otis was a habitual liar..
The Jeffrey Dahmer thing🤦♀️ I mean I’m open minded and when I looked into that I immediately realized it’s bull. These people clearly are motivated my money.
Love your channel 💜
If theyd let him finnish Dhamer aproached Willis in a radio Shack attempting to make small talk (could have been cruising) he seemed drunked and was looking at him strangly and smiling, Willis later saw him exit and enter sears, Dhamer had been dscharged at the time and was living homeless in FL HE called home scared when he said "rat ran across him on the beach" could it be he'd done something he was running from he was released from military for bring Disturbed.. chances are given Dhamers progression i think in this desprate time kiddnapping a defenseless boy may seem an option his compulsions and addiction to booze prolly had him full on at this spoint, Should be noticed he did what he did after the first murder of the hitch hike and atempted to not kill again, hed already killed at 18, it also should be noted theyr are other wittnesses that saw Dhamer including other atempts b4 Adam and He even may have worked as a Bus boy near the mall, and Toole confessed during a slew of confessions that cold case det. where loving, and later both he and lucas where exposed as liars.Dhamer was embarced at the ages of some of his kills i belive Adam was his darkest secret.
Uuuummmmm........ I've read through a lot of the Jeffrey Dahmer F.B.I files, and read every book that I can read, and I find there are some things about Jeffrey that never made it to the public's forefront.
Alright so, chronologically after Jeff's first murder he joined the army and went into the police program. He was stationed in Alabama. He washed out of that program and was sent to around Houston Texas for medic training. In his time in basic training he became a sharpshooter and was considered a marksman with a pistol. So, Jeff excelled with guns and through his life long obsession and military training he had a great understanding of human anatomy.
Meanwhile, he doesn't use a gun in any murder.
Wouldn't you want an assassin with this knowledge. Wait, doesn't the military train assassin's? Also unlike in the movies people sometimes survive one in the head and one in the chest. Nobody survives decapitation.
Was decapitation a fixation or a educated answer?
Could Jeffrey Dahmer have been a military assassin?
Jeffrey was then stationed in Germany, where he sexually assaulted 2 men. One was his roomate. His roomate is now on disability, from being raped and tortured by Jeffrey Dahmer. This was all reported. The roommate also reported Jeff coming back to the room in bloodstained fatigues after curfew and Jeff was not even asked about the incidences.
Jeff then repeatedly came to work drunk, refused rehab and honorably discharged.
Jeff was sent to south Carolina and discharged. The military bought him a plane ticket to Miami. No residence, no taxes paid, no paper trail.
Very professional.
In the months leading up to the abduction, there is eye witness testimony of Ottis Toole hanging around a flamboyantly gay man with blond hair blue eyes.
They were known to hang out at a bar that catered to the hand of death cult, which was affiliated with the process church.
Now the story is hear say, but there was a bar that catered to the cult, which can be connected back to the process church, and Ottis is affiliated with the hand of death cult and Jeffrey seems to have a connection to the process church through brother John Paul Renereri.
Jeffrey gets a job working at a sub shop getting paid under the table. No paper trail. The shop uses vans to deliver subs (1 is blue), and the owner of the sub shop has said that Jeffrey had been allowed to use the vans for personal use.
In July Adam was abducted. One witness did report seeing a boy being thrown into a blue van. 6 weeks later the child's head was found. In September 1981Jeffrey left Miami and moved in with his grandmother.
So Jeff left Miami a couple of weeks after the head was found.
Two months after the Tuomi killing, Dahmer encountered a 14-year-old Native American male prostitute named James Doxtator.
He was also arrested for drugging and sexually fondling a 13-year-old boy whom he had lured to his home on the pretext of posing nude for photographs. Jeff also had his way with the boy but would only serve a year in jail.
Jeffrey also abducted the brother of the victim years later, he was the victim who escaped the apartment to only be brought back to Jeffrey's apartment by the police.
He was also arrested for playing with himself in front of children.
I say this because the facts suggest that Dahmer did target minors. This nonsense that Jeffrey is too good for this crime in the chat is not backed up by the facts. I believe the video also makes this claim. Sorry not true.
Did he do it? IDK.
Jeff's words, "who ever killed Adam Walsh could never live in prison." Jeff died not too long after.
Why could no one who killed Adam live in prison?
Was there a hit on Jeff?
Dice found, Umuofia Umbrellas I Lost. You think zoo I can not. Schultz , I used the fucking Hand Saw . You laughed then handed me the hatchet. Then you used the chicken saw.
After looking into henry Lee lucius, I can see o tole just being set up to close the case. Henery was convict of 120 murders, any law man with an open murder can close there case by just offering Henry a pack of cigarettes
I remember when the movie Adam was on tv. I was right around the age of him when he went missing so it creped me out having the same name
+adam tarver i don't think i have seen it,but those movies are usually full of lies and inaccuracies anyway.
kate davenporty The big deal on this one was at the end of the movie they scrolled through numerous pictures and names of missing kids to bring them to national attention.
One of the kids ended up being the rapper Bizzy Bone from Bone Thugs n Harmony who they found on an native reservation not far from me. I listened to that group in the mid 90s when in highschool but learned of the kidnapping bit much later. Seems that movie has interjected itself into my life numerous times for some odd reason.
+adam tarver oh i see.Well,that's great then.I am unfamiliar with the band,sounds like rap which i am not into personally haha,but that is wonderful to bring attention to the heartbreaking issue of missing kids.I might watch it one day then,if i can find a forum that makes that possible (like if it is in a video shop to borrow).Great that Bizzy Bone was found and identified. All the best Adam (love that name;it is my son's middle name) :)
kate davenporty It was a made for tv movie if I remember right. One of those old ABC or CBS type of movies that played on a weekend night. You might find it on youtube really.
+adam tarver you have piqued my interest so i do want to watch it;i will look for it here on the toob.Cheers :)
I had no idea Otis was the same guy portrayed from the film "Henry:Portrait of A Serial Killer
+SlasherGuy 82 That was Henry Lee Lucas, Toole's partner in crime.
+saintgauden I think they were lovers also
woah, really!.!
good movie
@@keybaangel3 Yes they were.
Adam was why as a kid growing up in Florida if I walked away from my mother in a store or mall, I would get a whoopin when we’d get home. I think most parents in the 80s and 90s flipped when kids got lost in stores because of Adam’s case.
I noticed that when you're discussing Ottis's statement, and the facts as outlined opposite, you skip over the testimony of Mary Hagan. She stated she saw him, speaking to Adam in the Sears store, in the video area. Therefore very possible Ottis was hanging around there, and followed the boys out when they were evicted. Just playing Devil's Advocate, and you usually seem to play fair with the facts. Curious why you did not debunk the statement that was clear on the screen rather than ignore it?
He seems to really like Otis....
Are you kin to Bill. I am Scott Harrill. The second kid. My father was Samut Carl Harrill. Mercury Convertbile. Chain saw, Blue cooler. Glue bags. Never mentioned. Have Polaroids of Bill Morgan and my family . I can't sleep at night. sharrill26@gmail.com. Belmont NC. Adam refused to sniff glue. I did, that is why I am Alive...
I have often wondered if you gave John Walsh the ability to go back in time and change things, to save his son from being murdered would he? Well more than likely of course he would. But think of it this way, his sons death set into motion a series of events which led John Walsh down a different career path in helping to fight crime and help countless others. He has done so much good for society, but it all came from the cost of his sons life.
I was almost abducted from a department store back around 1978 in Ohio, I would have been around 12 at the time but probably appeared to be 9-10 as I was a very small child. Luckily I was smart enough to run away. I can not help but wonder, I know that it is a one in a million chance but who knows, could have it been the same animal?
Giving the basest of human behaviors...it wouldn't shock me with the notoriety of the case and publicity that the evidence was sold off/pawned off. A descendant of an English Bobbie had a bloodied scarf from one of Jack the Ripper's victims.
I did see the pic of the bloody face in the back of Tooles car. I think it was Adams.
I grew up hearing and learning abt the tragic , senseless & sad death of Adam Walsh. I pray for his family John , Rev'e & other family members. John is my hero! I appreciate ALL u do along with ur heartfelt commentary! May God bless u!!!!!!!
It is absolutely ridiculous how often vital evidence just disappears.
Why were the police so intent on the father when he wasn't even at the scene? Are they suggesting he snuck down to the mall and snatched his own child away from his own wife, after somehow knowing Adam would be kicked out of the store?
Then they move on to Ottis, who lies as a hobby.
They fail to develop film found in Toole's car.
Then they lose major pieces of evidence. USELESS COPS.
It is not only proper protocol, but thorough investigation to consider everyone closely related to a missing child/murder. Police were not "intent" on John, as all relatives, especially both parents were investigated.
On Unsolved No More with Retired cold case Detective Ken Mains, he actually speaks of a moment of wondering about Reve, John's wife. She'd said she'd earlier brought Adam in with her to pay Adam's tuition, but the employee who had helped her hadn't seen Adam. Ken Mains does not the parents had any involvement.
I heard that store security put all three children out of the store. If security was that young, he shouldn’t have been working there!!
He (Toole) could've used the video game lure in the confession only because he watched the 1983 film dedicated to Adam. I believe the detectives did a poor job by not recording audio and video of Toole as they drove around with him to the crime scene.
Also you guys need to know more about John and his wife before during and after his son's death. There's alot of secrets that people don't know about him and his wife that needs to be addressed also. Look at what he's doing to his own child Meghan Walsh right now
I met John Walsh at Universal Studios Islands of Adventure in Orlando Florida. He talked to me briefly near the one foot court and shook my hand. I was about 14 at the time and only knew him from the TV show America's Most Wanted. After my mom told me the story of why he started that it made me cry (as a boy) and as a man of 40 now, John Walsh is a personal hero of mine. He turned this horrible awful thing into saving the lives of hundreds of children that would've certainly been harmed or continued to be harmed by the filth that John Walsh targets. God bless John Walsh.
His dumb wife should have been shunned sternly.
As awful as this case is i want to say everything happens for a reason. People say why would God let this happen to a child and i have no answer and the only thing i can say is this the loss of Adam put John on a path that brought attention to so many lost and stolen children and brought many home and gave closure to million of families. This case made parents see how fast your child could be taken . In a blink of an eye they could be gone forever and the strength of John and Reve truly amazes me
Mother should of never depended on group of strangers to care for a 6 yr old.. Security or not. Security guard is a joke 6 yr old is stil a baby !
The exact same thing happened to my eye in April/May of this year. Some of the blood actually circled my iris perfectly and I thought it looked so cool. I was so sad when my eye cleared up, lol.
what if he didn't kill him what if he just brought him to some people that did kill him. And he did this for money or something else. if it happened that way he wouldn't have knowledge of what happened to Adam he would only know up to the point where he delivered at him to these people. I want some videos where they say and I think even he said he didn't do it alone
He didnt do it...hes repeating what he has heard.God knows how many other children have died at the hands of Adam's killer.
I think the whole idea of Jeffery dahmer being involved is just ridiculous. Dahmer never dodged any question. He answered everything as detailed as he could. I just think the was being very straightforward and honest.
The kid was six when he dissappeared/was murdered. If he had a filling in his tooth at that age, and lived, he would've lost that tooth a few years later with the rest of his milk teeth, so why is that filling and that tooth being used as a possible identifying marker?
A lot of police departments seem to throw out items in their evidence rooms after a certain amount of time sadly.
Great episode. I tend to think Toole was just a serial confessor getting attention and special privileges for doing so. Lucas and Toole were con men so they were just conning law enforcement. As far as the luminol stain, I can see the face when they show the enhanced version, but without it I can't make it out. Have to wonder if we have pareidolia working out the face for people eager to see it and then enhancing it so others will too.
True Crime Garage podcast covered this case a while back. They have done some cases that I wasn't familiar with in addition to great coverage on well known crimes. This channel and the garage are my favorite true crime and missing person shows.
Great job with story.. your great...this story always saddens me. John Walsh's wife must be overwhelmed with guilt to this day..my mother would have never left me alone and I grew up in 80s as well...Very sad..
Wonder if it really was Dahmer and he ate him.... maybe they made this guy confess a lie
Jeffrey Daumer didn't kill Adam Walsh. It's not logical. I don't know who did, to say Daumer did it just doesn't fit.
+jon122569 no,that's right,he didn't do it.We are not saying "what a good bloke Jeffrey was" by any means,but it is fact that he had a type and he never did anything to a child and wasn't a paedophile so it doesn't fit at all and it's obvious that it isn't him.
+kate davenporty there are exceptions. .u dont know dahmer so you cant say "he didnt do it".
read mindhunter..read obsession ( john douglas)
read anatomy of motive john douglas
he who fights monsters resseler
the book by park dietz
a serial killer sometimes makes exceptions
sounds off to me as well
It was Toole. People claiming its not him don''t know his background.
Tornado1994: AGREE! But you know the internet....
There was a video I saw last week on a caught killer who 'confessed' to this murder; Edward Wayne Edwards. The problem with this is that he 'confessed' to every murder since the Black Dahlia. The West Memphis boys that were killed, he not only confessed to those murders, he showed up on the documentary taking place in the cemetery, with a fake, long, gray beard. The same beard he supposedly played Santa Claus in with JonBenet Ramsey the following December. I don't know what to think about EWE. He may have confessed, but take it with a grain of salt. He was caught for murders, but he confessed to every murder because he wanted to be killed rather than linger in prison. Thanks to the both of you for this compilation.
+Rick The Explorer™ yeah you notice that, he was trying to be some killer genius. he sounded credible at the get go but then when he brought up the wm3 case i just said this dude is full of crap.
+Rick The Explorer™ I hadn't heard about that.. but I have a researcher working on an episode about him. Thanks for the additional info Rick!
+esser yep this dude John Cameron wrote a book about Edwards & he ramp up trying to sell it behind the Avery case. He claims Edwards killed Halbach & framed Avery. Also claims Jimmy Hoffa, Lacy Peterson, Atlanta child killer.... like u he lost all credibility w/ me.
just the head was found ... just horrible :/
If she just watched her kid this would have never happened.
A habitual liar but you make it sound like his accounts of his childhood are 100% truth.
The secruity guard was a 17 year old girl, not a guy.
Another interesting video as usual. Haven't heard of this case in the UK.
that's surprising
you eve r see America's most wanted? perhaps not I guess
Not too surprising... Alternately we haven't heard a lot of more infamous things in Europe I imagine. o.o
Adam Walsh went missing two days before the royal wedding of Charles and Diana, so it's understandable why you didn't learn about this in the UK at the time.
Ottis Toole was just that, a tool. He and Lucas were LEOs best friends. They never met a murder they couldn't confess to. Extra commissary, a trip out of prison, whatever, it seems no favor was too small for them to help LE "close the books" on unsolved murders. Note only Lucas, out of 300 some inmates, including women and the mentally handicapped, that Governor George W Bush commuted his death sentence.
On a related note, maybe a good brainscratch would be looking into the first biography of Lucas, 'The Hand of Death', wherein Lucas claims to belong to a government run satanic cult. He also claimed many of his murders were actually hits made to look like psycho-sado-sexual incidents to hide true motive. The ramblings of a kook to prop himself up is an easy enough explanation, but doesn't explain why it was pulled from shelves quickly and is still out of print, (only used copies a available on Amazon). Though the stories could be as fabricated as the murders he confessed to that were proven he didn't do, it is interesting that he names places associated with the cia affiliated human trafficking group the Finders and now declassified US military training outposts in Mexico.
+EddieT2112 Awesome thought, and thanks for the additional info!
+GeekenDorx Thanks, I love the channel.
+EddieT2112 This is VERY INTERESTING! So do you know if this was publicized as a book or do you know if I could watch something like a documentary about Lucas and these so called Hit's for a Satanic Cult with in our government?
+EddieT2112 Wow, that's interesting. Makes me also think about that old documentary that was on about the boys being used and trafficked by government types. I can't recall what it's called but it's on youtube and the guy who was exposing it was killed I think. Then the Franklin coverup as well. It also brings to mind the work of Dave MacGowan about mind control and serial killers. Lots of podcasts floating interviewing him on the subject.
Dave passed away from cancer after he put that book out about Laurel Canyon and the odd 60s rock stars ties with a military base up there. He had some kind of meeting with Hollywood types as the book drew a lot of attention. Wasn't long after that he had a fast moving deadly cancer.
I've heard about Franklin, I am not sure about the other case, it may be the same one. The Finders were caught in northern Florida with a van filled with kids. The men transporting them gave up the whole operation to the fbi and there was to be a big sting and a call came in and the men were released and it all went away. There are fbi docs out there, ( I think the lead agent was very sour about letting it go and released the docs.) But even though the capture was front page national news, there was no follow up by any msm.
fox probably thought it was bs so why give em time. John Walsh believes its Ottis, however Ottis was toying with everyone.
+esser It sure seemed like it. That was hardly an interview at all (especially of the last two guys).
The first victim of Dahmer in Ohio in 1978, was a casual FRIEND of his who happened to be hitchhiking through town. He strangled the Man and buried him under his Parent's backyard. Dahmer was stationed in Ft. Meyers,FL during 1980 and 1981. Walsh's murder occurred in Hollywood which is WELL away from Ft. Meyers(Over 150 miles). It was a Military Base so Dahmer would NOT have access to the Broward Co area nor would he have any reason to drive 3 hours off base to Hollywood. There is NO evidence that Dahmer was EVER in Hollywood,FL, no paper trail, nothing.
Dahmer's youngest victim was a 14 year old kid who worked at a Milwaukee Gay Bar Dahmer preyed for victims at. The reason why Dahmer targeted the boy, because he happened to look older than his age. The kid looked 18 years old. Dahmer also strangled him to kill him.
www.cityftmyers.com/
This is where Dahmer was at until 1982. That's over 150 miles away from Adam Walsh's home.
Walsh was decapitated. That's how he was killed. Dahmer dismembered his victims post mortem. And mentioned time and time again that he strangled them to kill them.
Ottis Toole KILLED Adam Walsh. It was later proven he did when Hollywood police confessed that Toole was always their main suspect, but they had botched the case by allowing his car to be destroyed. They took photos showing a Child's faceprint, BLOOD all over the seat of Toole's car, a Machete and Maps to Hollywood FL which ALL point to Toole being Walsh's killer. Eyewitnesses in 1981 specifically describe the Man they saw Adam getting into the Car with as White, a Dirty looking Drifter between the ages of 35-40 with a beard,receding hairline wearing a navy blue Member's Only Shirt, they described his Car as being Goldenrod and looking like a 1978 Model Plymouth.
Toole was also a pedophile. He had diaries about kidnapping a young boy and turning him into his "Love Child Slave". Toole also DID have prior arrest records of Child Molestations from 1977 and 1978 and on top of that practiced Satanism.
Toole confessed in 1983 that he was the murderer, wrote John a sickening Ransom letter, recanted later but his Niece states that on his deathbed that he admitted and confessed that he indeed had killed Adam Walsh.
Just because he recanted over and over again does NOT mean he's not guilty. The man could Read and Write just perfectly and the circumstantial evidence against him is just WAY Too much and would have certainly been enough to send him to Death Row in '82.
Ottis Elwood Toole killed Adam Walsh.
I never saw this as a closed case. O'tool seemed to lack the iq it would take to kidnap in public, he was notable, not really a man I think children would easily follow. And all the discrepancies of both mens stories, always seemed to me like police reaching a little to fare in an apparent wrong direction. O'Tools lover/Best friend Henry Lee Lucas seem more to the talking guy, setting all sorts of stories into motion, because he love the publicity. Ack in the 90's I read up on Henry which lead me to O'Tool, and I remembering thinking what poor creatures, sad. But I could not see them as murders, they seemed to self-destructive, and confused, to have what it takes to carry out such a horrific thing, let alone get away with it, despite going over state lines. I don't know, but this 'clousure' never felt right to me. But thx for sharing yours and your trams point of view. Always interesting to see what other picks up along the way. But I still do wonder if the right offender was found?
your videos are so addictive and intriguing. You and your researchers do an amazing job. I don't think Ottis did it, I think he would have admitted to anything honestly,
keep up the amazing work
John you just made me snarf my coffee through my nose “Oh! That’s the chin that I remember!!”.... I read a book that John Walsh helped write with the main investigator, I believe it was called “Bringing Adam Home”. I read the E-Book and it says in (I think it’s 2015 could be 2012), that DNA and some photos found after being undeveloped for all those years, Ottis Toole was indeed the killer of Adam Walsh. 100% and John Walsh, as ive said, helped write this book. John Walsh agrees that this disgusting demon Ottis killed his precious little boy....
Toole was the DEVIL Incarnate.
You haven't made a Kendrick Johnson video in awhile. Anything new?
+Ty Dune i would very much like that too
Evil ass person who did that child like that