28mm vs 35mm for Street Photography

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • 28mm or 35mm (full frame equivalent) for Street Photography, which focal length is best for you?
    Thumbnail photograph by Lee Deleon!
    0:31 - 28mm Perspective
    1:16 - Composing with 28mm
    2:00 - Environmental Context with 28mm
    2:14 - Challenges with 28mm
    2:59 - Composing with 35mm
    4:23 - Challenges with 35mm
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  • @evanlawrence5815
    @evanlawrence5815 2 года назад +65

    Man this video was excellent. So concise, quick, to the point and with great examples and going beyond the basic information and giving the actual nuanced discussion. Good rhythm too. Hell yeah.

  • @JohnKrill
    @JohnKrill 8 месяцев назад +20

    When I was in Vietnam in 68/69 I carried two Nikon f. One had a 35mm and the other had the 28mm. Worked for me.
    The other photographers in the unit thought I was crazy. But I had many of my photos get into the weekly marine newsletter.
    PS I was crazy.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  8 месяцев назад +1

      Awesome story! Sometimes when we pursue excellence, people think we’re crazy for it 🤝

  • @DDHDTV
    @DDHDTV 11 месяцев назад +1

    daamn this video is excellent, this finally made me realise why I dislike 24mm. I'm just not good enough for that much information in my frame yet, also our little streets are empty, it does not work properly with that angle

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  11 месяцев назад

      Glad you got some value from it! Yeah 24mm is an interesting one, largely depends on your “canvas”. Thanks!

  • @jcon654
    @jcon654 Год назад +1

    Amazing examples. 28mm look incredible! Nice and thank you!!

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад

      thank you! give it a try if you haven’t already 💪🏾

  • @DannyB-cs9vx
    @DannyB-cs9vx Год назад +13

    With high Megapixel cameras, one can always crop in to make a shorter focal length pic.
    You can't make a 35mm pic into a 28mm.

    • @antheaadams9023
      @antheaadams9023 Месяц назад

      True I prefer the 28mm any day

    • @athmaid
      @athmaid Месяц назад

      Yeah but if you were to shoot from the same spot with both, you'd have lower the f-stop on the 28mm to achieve the same depth of field when cropped in to match the 35mm.

  • @albertsmith9315
    @albertsmith9315 2 года назад +13

    Just me, but I skipped the 28mm after decades of using 35mm as my "standard" street lens. I instead went to 24mm. This rewards me with a true different look for the effort of changing glass.
    One cool trick with the 35mm/24mm combo... the 24mm being held vertically (portrait mode) has the same edge to edge coverage as the 35mm held horizontally (landscape mode) at a constant distance. This give you the ability to emphasize height or width for the subject depending on the environment.
    This is of course personal. A new shooter should do a 100% immersion with a single lens and really get to know it before cluttering their brain with choices.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +2

      that’s interesting! many (myself included) as super challenging. i agree though, figuring out the characteristics of one lens, initially, gives you an idea of how to notice the uniqueness of others.

  • @jaspercaelan4998
    @jaspercaelan4998 Год назад +13

    I come from shooting landscapes and use a telephoto a lot for that but I found the 28 works so well for the street. With a 50 I found it was difficult to create layers and depth, the 35 felt a bit boring sometimes but the 28 just felt right and gives you a sense of being right there. The chaos can sometimes be a bit hard to control though, sometimes that's a good thing, sometime it's not.

  • @marshall1864
    @marshall1864 10 месяцев назад +10

    What a well-written, tightly-reasoned and well-stated piece! In addition to being a longtime serious photographer, I write professionally for broadcast. So I know how hard it is to write about anything, let alone another mode of expression. It's like dancing about poetry. You pull it off, when so many others don't. Thanks!

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  10 месяцев назад +1

      I appreciate the compliments! 🤝

  • @chryseass.5143
    @chryseass.5143 2 года назад +12

    I laughed out loud with your "Move in close: buy a mouth guard" photo tip! I enjoyed this one and will check out some of your videos!!

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +2

      lol thanks! you’ll see that i love to crack jokes 😂

  • @NizarNoor
    @NizarNoor Год назад +34

    I still find it a bit strange how many people are saying 35mm is boring. Most smartphone main cameras are between 24-28mm. That's all we see most of the time. 35mm isn't common, thus isn't boring, in my opinion.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад +5

      many people just make excuses 😂

    • @apocryphal_man
      @apocryphal_man 4 месяца назад +4

      Focal lengths aren't boring. Photos may be boring but it's certainly not down to the lens used :)

    • @Stan_the_Belgian
      @Stan_the_Belgian Месяц назад

      Why the focus on fl, you can always zoom with your feet

  • @ebreevephoto
    @ebreevephoto Год назад +8

    This is one of the best videos on this subject I have ever seen. Thank you. I love 35 for street but have been wanting more, so considering 28. Your comments on the amount of people in your city plays an impact on your focal length choice was one I hadn't considered...

  • @n-kphotographyandstudio8774
    @n-kphotographyandstudio8774 29 дней назад +1

    Great video Dorian on an unsung hero and almost forgotten focal length..yeah, you have to work a lot harder and smarter than 35mm 🙂

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  24 дня назад

      Thank you! 28mm and 40mm (for that matter) are a lot of fun.

  • @samwang5831
    @samwang5831 Год назад +6

    If I travel with friends or family, it's 35. Travel alone, 28. In the good old film days, 35 was the standard lens for point-and -shoot cameras because of its versatility. Now we can crop so 28 potentially offers even more but then the subject had better be in the center. They are both good primes to have, both can be put into good use. Don't get a kit zoom though, the aperture is usually too small. You might as well use your iphone

    • @bradleyeid9260
      @bradleyeid9260 Год назад +4

      Our preferences are reversed. If traveling with family, I am physically close to them so getting a good shot with 28mm is easy. 35mm works better for photographing strangers. I actually travel with both lenses. One in pocket and one in camera. Micro four thirds system. Pancake lens not much bigger than a roll of film.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  11 месяцев назад

      I respect how you section things off!

  • @cryptobyt2403
    @cryptobyt2403 7 месяцев назад +2

    Wide angle portrait best 35. Landmark street better 28 than 35. Landscape is 20. 25-26 street level wide angle. 24 i think cinematographer wide.

    • @cryptobyt2403
      @cryptobyt2403 7 месяцев назад +2

      I am 20,35,50 dude

    • @cryptobyt2403
      @cryptobyt2403 4 месяца назад +1

      Actually im more incline to 18 ie 20. But viltrox release great 16/1.8 lens. Now i think i am 16, 35, 50

    • @Canadianforestfairy
      @Canadianforestfairy 3 месяца назад

      @@cryptobyt2403 Do you the 16 Distorts the faces at all, or is less flattering than the 28 or 35?

    • @cryptobyt2403
      @cryptobyt2403 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Canadianforestfairy i wont use 16 for portrait, only landscape or cityscape. Street portrait with people i think max either 28 or 35

  • @leedeleon2745
    @leedeleon2745 2 года назад +6

    I was tired of losing teeth so I switched back to 35mm😭 all kidding aside, I always enjoy your thoughts on the cerebral aspects when it comes to focal length and what they represent. Those thoughts combined with memes and cartoon inserts just hit right, man. Enjoyed this one!

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      😂 thank you man! both are so much fun (and safe) to use, all jokes aside as well lol. you did your thing with your photos!

  • @woodedape
    @woodedape Год назад +1

    Are we talking about 28 vs 35 crop sensor or full frame lenses?

  • @nonculus
    @nonculus 2 месяца назад +1

    surely nothing will go wrong if i go from my only 55mm lens to a 28mm right away right?

  • @JeffreyHauser
    @JeffreyHauser 5 месяцев назад +2

    Nice job regarding the differences in using the 28mm vs 35mm. My belief is that the wider the lens angle of view, the more skill is required of the photographer to make a compelling image. Best wishes in your photographic endeavours.😊

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  5 месяцев назад

      You may be on to something! Thanks and you as well 🤝

  • @FeedScrn
    @FeedScrn 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nice video. // I have a Canon 28mm ultrasonic f/1.8. Beautiful lens.... It's wide, but not exaggerating wide. It has great image IQ. // Maybe 24mm would be better... but I'm not going to get another wide angle lens just for an additional 4mm.
    - The wider fish-eye lenses look intriguing... but they are slow. Even f/2.8 seems dubious.

  • @craig_cunha
    @craig_cunha 2 года назад +4

    “Buy a mouth guard” 😂
    Great video Doriyan. Both are great options. And yeah, a 40 would be a better pair with the 28.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +2

      😂 all jokes for fun!
      thank you, and yeah the 18mm f2 and 27mm 2.8 mk ii have had my interest for a while. need to try them out!

  • @MannyScoot
    @MannyScoot 11 месяцев назад +2

    I own the Pancake lenses..... I currently have a Canon 40mm 2.8 STM that I use on my 1DX MK III and my Canon 5DSR .... just added a RF 28mm 2.8 STM to my Eos R (this combo belongs together) ..... I also own the Canon 50mm EF 1.4 USM that I use on my Canon 5DSR for large 50 mp portraits ...... It's nice having a couple of prime lenses.... never tried a 35mm, and thanks for your perspective !!!!

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  11 месяцев назад

      Considering you like all of though, 35mm may be worth a try! Thanks for watching 🤜🤛

  • @kenn6592
    @kenn6592 Месяц назад +2

    Excellent take on the never ending question of 'best street lens'. Fabulous photos.

  • @charliemiller5831
    @charliemiller5831 Год назад +1

    28mm.... "and buy a mouth guard"...
    Yikes.... (maybe good advice)

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад +1

      I kid, I kid 😂

    • @charliemiller5831
      @charliemiller5831 Год назад

      @@doriyancoleman really enjoyed your 'take' on getting out there.. Keep up the good work sir!

  • @WhoIsSerafin
    @WhoIsSerafin Год назад +1

    Time of the dinosaurs, listen here young one.😂

  • @christopherrodriguez7223
    @christopherrodriguez7223 2 года назад +4

    Good day Doriyan, I was just going through this with my own system, I was using a 28m full frame lens on crop sensor and now went full frame. I thought I wouldn't like 28mm FOV at all but turn out I do not mind it at all. Again its all personal taste, but we all shouldn't be afraid to try something new we may like.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +3

      man when I tell you that I was initially the exact same way when it came to 28mm. seemed too wide, too intimidating, but it’s so much fun to use!
      like you said, we should at least try things before we come to a conclusion! happy shooting 💪🏾

  • @MichaelVincentMagic
    @MichaelVincentMagic Год назад +2

    Excellent video - I love the 28mm field of view, its my natural vision.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад +1

      thank you! it’s definitely an engaging one to use

  • @lorenschwiderski
    @lorenschwiderski Год назад +2

    Henri Cartier-Bresson did a pretty good job with his 50mm lens, ya know. 😉. Seriously, all focal lengths work. I shot at 28mm today, and it was fine. I have many shots taken at 50mm and 60mm, on up to 90mm, and all went well. Of course the tighter the street, the more 50mm or less seems best. But there are times when shooting across the way works out well, or is simply a necessity, at which time that 28mm will need a huge crop-down. And I get it that when you are but three to six feet of subject, you can really use that wide lens. Of all the lens choices the most forgiving, framing wise, and for lack of distortions is the 50mm. At this time however, I am moving to the 35mm and 28mm field of view to see how much more story I get, that up close and personal feel, as you described, and even how unrelated works within a photo. Yes, in a real world there is a focus you are viewing, along with other unrelated, yet possibly offering a balance or an offset to the story going on -- heck, maybe three unrelated things happening??? It all works, portrait and wide urban landscapes. The current trend of ultra sharp, stand-out shots of people, with a blurred out background, might not hold up over time. When first viewed, as in something new and with a certain shock appeal, it first seems cool -- very cool! Then you realize it is a super sharp image of nothing, with no story at all. Just a portrait. Anyway, that 28mm or even 35mm when close can distort human faces, or when the camera is a tilt, the whole world, buildings and all wiggle and waggle, thus it is a little more the challenge when having to quick-draw shoot. Might be why Henri liked the 50mm, or the framing thing? It is a good challenge -- I am going for it. 28 and 35mm this month! To get to my site on the web, search my full name, Loren.

  • @mikejankowski6321
    @mikejankowski6321 Год назад +3

    I really enjoyed that video! You have many interesting descriptions that kept my attention and gave me a chuckle. Good discussion of the various aspects.
    I like 28 and 50 and don't have a 35 because I feel it to be a blah middle. While I don't shoot "street", I do like architecture as you presented it. So the images met my expectations from the title.
    Careful to not go too wide - you could end up with Detroit in the frame!

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  11 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed the video Mike! Thats funny because I love how 35 can often be a best of both worlds for me. Take care!

  • @86BBUB
    @86BBUB 10 месяцев назад +2

    Good video; matches my experience. I shoot Sony and often carry their 28/2 in addition to a mounted 35. That lens is small, light , and cheap so easy to own and tuck in a pocket. Nice to have when things feel tight.

  • @edurmissa
    @edurmissa 5 месяцев назад

    I think this is a more full frame topic, as there is enough difference to compare and feel what you explane.
    I think both lenses works wonderful in full frame and both sucks in APS-C.
    In full frame 28 mm is nicely wide but the distortion is quite under control and 35mm is as wide and natural as it gets, I like it a bit more because that little compression on background, is not truly wide, but get just so enough in many situations.
    But in APS-C, both feel uncomfortable cropped, of course, that is the cropped factor, but they don't feel "coordinated" the image feels and look wide for the 28mm, but physically you are considerably far away to achieve that, considering is a "wide angle" you may ran out of space trying to compose, it suffers a lot indoors and same happens with 35mm, it is more reasonable, as it keeps the normal look, but it completely loose the wide factor but doesn't get the compression of a 50mm, it's so in the middle that doesn't get that good.
    For APS-C I would recommend the 24mm, it get's a nice balance of everything.
    It is cropped as a 35mm in full frame, but keeps the distortion of a 24mm a little under control.
    It is not truly wide, but it feels wide and works like a wide angle or a normal, depending how close you are focusing and how open is your background.

  • @rvbsoundfactory
    @rvbsoundfactory 5 месяцев назад +1

    I like the 35 & 50mm. I do like the 28 mm focal length! However the one that I own does not always performed as I would like. (barrel distortion.) Yes of course I know how to remedy this problem. Priorities have to come first. Awesome video.

  • @roxspeedg
    @roxspeedg 2 года назад +3

    Great video! One of the critiques of 28mm is closeness to your subject, something we're afraid of, but on the flip side, I find myself "exposed" more by people on the street who notice me taking a photo of them when I'm actually farther away from them rather than closer. Think about it, no one would think you can take a sharp photo of someone that close, or there is anything worth taking a photo of that close (admittedly I'm never under anyone's chin close)...

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      that’s an interesting point when you get into the psychology of it 🤔

  • @stefansipl6736
    @stefansipl6736 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. Really comprehensive. I went for 40mm ;)

  • @jorsetti
    @jorsetti 8 месяцев назад +2

    Once I started using a 28mm, I sold my 35mm because it never got used after that...nice video sir!

  • @neilpiper9889
    @neilpiper9889 2 года назад +2

    I use a 8.1 megapixel Ricoh gr digital with the 28mm equivalent lens. I have the 21mm adaptor lens but prefer the 28

  • @theluckystreet
    @theluckystreet Год назад +3

    I almost spent thousands to buy the xf 85 mm for night photography but when I discovered the works of garry winogrand and daido moriyama, i was blown away with the many details that a 28 mm can capture. i started using the 28 mm and man the results I got are something I would never imagine myself taking ever in my life.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад +2

      glad that you’re making work that you love and learning about those before us. keep that going! 🚀

    • @theluckystreet
      @theluckystreet Год назад

      @@doriyancoleman for sure! i love photography and it's a whole world itself. I still have lots of it to explore and I'll keep exploring. I appreciate what you do on youtube, sharing your perspective on these technical stuff. keep them videos coming :))

  • @someonenamedmiller9172
    @someonenamedmiller9172 9 месяцев назад

    As a fellow cleveland street photographer we should shoot sometime. Cheers !

  • @cw7422
    @cw7422 10 месяцев назад +1

    I love my Leica Q2 with its 28mm with its crop feature, and my Voigtlander Vito B with its 50mm.

  • @edobette
    @edobette Год назад +1

    Per la street io uso 28mm, come prima scelta e 50mm quando voglio essere più descrittivo.

  • @leviwelling2093
    @leviwelling2093 2 года назад +2

    Good information as always man. My default is always 35mm, but I love playing with 28mm and 50mm as well.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      thank you! always fun to branch out and try something different

  • @SavedbybGrace
    @SavedbybGrace 7 месяцев назад +1

    Love using the 28mm Lux on my Leica M11P. Love it so much I just added the 21mm Super Elmer… even more fun 😊

  • @Markeymarc321
    @Markeymarc321 Год назад +1

    So we’ll described.

  • @GaryIrving-x5o
    @GaryIrving-x5o 28 дней назад

    I shoot 21mm exclusively.

  • @Lethorio
    @Lethorio Год назад +2

    Nice concise video. I've mostly been shooting 35mm, but I'm definitely feeling like a little bit more context could be good sometimes. No doubt I'd run into the same problem that you mentioned, where the subject is lost in the frame. I'm also starting to play around with 40mm. 50mm is far too tight for me.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад +1

      thanks! yeah while 28mm doesn’t “feel” like a far number from 35, you really get a different experience from it.
      i also feel you with 50mm, it’s just not for me 😅

  • @quattro30
    @quattro30 Год назад +2

    Thanks for all the tips, I have been shooting with a 40 mm on my M cameras, and it's worked out really well for me but I feel like the next lens should be a 28 for those environmental and architectural street work.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад

      you’re welcome! give it a shot! should make for a nice visual refresh

  • @DeeRosa
    @DeeRosa 2 года назад +1

    Great job my boi. Love the breakdown. It’s 28mm till I die.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      thank you bro! you and Lee helped open me up to 28mm. sticking with it 🙏🏾

  • @vkotis
    @vkotis 5 месяцев назад +1

    Just picked up my first 28mm, and I've been cropping the hell out of my photos lol. I didn't realise how close I have to get to my subject.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  5 месяцев назад +1

      I feel like that's definitely part of the learning curve. It'll start to feel natural as time goes on!

  • @daveguy7530
    @daveguy7530 3 месяца назад +1

    I use a 28 and occasionally a 21 for street

  • @RFranks
    @RFranks Год назад +2

    I started with a 50 but most of the streets where I live are quite narrow so the 50 always felt a bit cramped. I moved to the 28 recently and I like the additional room but it's still a bit intimidating to get close sometimes. Luckily with zone focusing being much easier on the 28 I can get in and out fast.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад +1

      zone focusing with 28mm is so awesome 🙏🏾

  • @atlas5459
    @atlas5459 10 месяцев назад +1

    People in the US accept a lot from strangers. Put a 28mm lens in someone's face in my neighbourhood in Brussels and you better run fast cuz they will not be happy.

  • @chazlyle41
    @chazlyle41 7 месяцев назад +1

    21/35 has been my go to all over the world! :)

  • @josheennisperos6573
    @josheennisperos6573 2 месяца назад

    Everything you say, I agree.

  • @benmorseUK
    @benmorseUK Год назад +8

    This might be the best, most concise way of describing the differences between these two lenses I've heard. A 5 minute masterclass. Great job!

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад

      thank you so much! glad you got some value out of it

  • @astifcaulkinyeras
    @astifcaulkinyeras Год назад +1

    So 28 is for people with enough balls to get close. Or to sneakily capture people on the edge of the frame because it looks less like you're pointing directly at them.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад +1

      Confident, yes. Aside from that, you don’t have to strictly get close to make good photos with it, and you definitely don’t have to be “stealthy” or sneaky.

  • @arielrglaze
    @arielrglaze 2 года назад +1

    "And buy a mouth guard" 🤣 who are you photographing?

  • @highwayman1224
    @highwayman1224 Год назад +1

    With my A7RV, I can use my Samyang 24mm and then put it in crop mode and achieve 36mm. Although I go from 61mp to 26mp which is fine.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад +1

      36mm and still great for high resolution and quality prints 👍🏾

  • @ductritran8637
    @ductritran8637 Год назад +1

    Standard lens you own is 50mm then next is 35mm , not wide enough just a bit wider so 28mm is the best general for most occasions . I recommend 4 lens that I personal pick , 50mm , 28mm , 21mm and 90mm . If you have these 4 will cover all you need . I shoot range finder manual cameras .

  • @harrison00xXx
    @harrison00xXx 11 месяцев назад +1

    I did a little bit of street photography at first with my EOS RP and 50 1.8. Nice, little combo.
    But its true, 50mm is "tight", and since i have "downgraded" to APS-C i either have to rely on my 17-55 2.8 lens or in the case of cities i also use the 10-20mm 3.5 lens for architecture and so.
    But on APS-C a classic 50mm is also interesting for 75-80mm for street and portrait! In which i really like my actual nifty fifty, a vintage 50mm 1.4 SMC Takumar (radioactive 7 element version)

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  11 месяцев назад

      The 75-85mm zone is a lot of fun, I agree. 50 can take some getting used to as well. Have fun out there!

  • @harrybrown1900
    @harrybrown1900 Год назад +1

    Is 35mm will work same as the pictures shown? if it used in crop factor 1.5x

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад

      35mm with 1.5x crop factor is about a 52mm full frame equivalent 👍🏾

  • @SamCyanide
    @SamCyanide Год назад +2

    Dude the info presented and the vibe of this video is fantastic. Thank you

  • @LuigiL75
    @LuigiL75 7 месяцев назад +2

    28mm is MY 35mm if that makes any sense…😅

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  7 месяцев назад +1

      Makes total sense, 40mm is my 50 😂

    • @LuigiL75
      @LuigiL75 7 месяцев назад

      @@doriyancoleman HA! The Tamron 45mm is MY 50mm…I freaking LOVE that lens! 🤤

  • @terryjacob8169
    @terryjacob8169 Год назад +1

    I'm rather fond of the 42mm f2 'standard' lens of my Contax G1 over the alternate 28mm f2.8 for 'street photography'.

  • @dmapp
    @dmapp 2 года назад +1

    With the right Fuji camera and using sports finder I can put on an 18mm pancake and then have 27 and 35 on the one camera without the need to carry another lens. Or 23mm gives me 35 and 44. Yeah there is less megapixels but man it’s a good option.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      the homie dee rosa introduced that to me! still have yet to try it but it makes for a versatile degree of options

  • @Bloggerky
    @Bloggerky 2 года назад +1

    "Buy a mouthguard." -- As civility and trust in the US have become more frayed, that's unfortunately sound advice for the photographer.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      a joke but kinda true! us photographers have a high responsibility to help restore that trust

  • @krazyk57
    @krazyk57 4 месяца назад +1

    4:29 … “And not in a good way”…lol

  • @2071photo
    @2071photo 2 года назад +1

    I just tried 40mm street photos on a rollei 35, it’s tight but pretty fun ☺️✌🏽 definitely recommend it

  • @andriimartynov83
    @andriimartynov83 Год назад +1

    I just started shooting street photography… I’ve got 135, 85, 58, 50, 35 and 28mm lenses. So far my favorite are 50mm and 85mm. Easier to compose and I’m still feeling uncomfortable coming close to people… but I’m still trying to use the 35mm lens.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад +3

      They say that the longer you shoot, the wider you tend to go. It’ll feel more natural as time goes on

  • @jaysix8032
    @jaysix8032 6 месяцев назад

    Nice video with some handy street tips. "Mouth guard"! :-)

  • @enfieldlover8145
    @enfieldlover8145 Год назад +1

    fully agree. 50mm was/is considered the 'to go portrait lens'... always comes with the finest bokeh and people love it like a soy sauce. have a boring image - but shot at 1.4 - they love it. i think that's the reason the starting wanna be street photographer grab 50mm (don't want to insult anybody). i love the sentence 'the longer you do street photography, the wider you go'. street photography is about it... life on street. it's tough to show a photo where you don't show the life. the interaction of the street elements. that beautiful shot by andre wagner of the kid dribbling the basketball. where would you have to stand to shoot it with 50mm. i think the more i see the photographer be close to their subjects on the street and you say 'one feels immersed in the picture'. i think that is the sole reason for that feeling. the guy was THERE in the moment. He is right next to the kids. that is why everybody can feel the 'immersion' . so the only way to be able to do that - lens must go wide(r). great video, doriyan, gotta follow you :)

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад

      many great points all throughout your comment! it’s funny, because I’ve truly gotten to a point where 40mm is about the longest i like to go.
      what you said about immersion and truly being present in the moment has a lot of legitimacy to it. street photography is a beautiful thing! i appreciate you sharing and following 🙏

  • @scott-ish404
    @scott-ish404 2 года назад +1

    I now where you're coming from when you briefly mention 40mm - which I've been using more and more lately on my work.
    Are you intending to do a feature on it anytime soon?
    BTW: This many words of wisdom are rarely found on your average YT vid. Liking it and subscribing!
    Congrats from a passionate street photog from "the streets of Brazil".

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      40mm is interesting! i’ve used it (and 45mm) at various times throughout the years, and definitely want to share my experience with it
      i appreciate the high praise Scott, thank you 🙏🏾

  • @Celestialrob
    @Celestialrob Год назад +1

    Outstanding video, thanks Dorian. I purchased a 28mm based on this. Already have the 40mm :)

  • @ekkanofiqandriyana7325
    @ekkanofiqandriyana7325 2 года назад +1

    30mm is the perfect FL for everyone and iam happy with panasonic leica 15mm f1.7 its a truly gem in photography universe

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      i would definitely be interested in a 30mm equiv. focal length to replace the 18mm f/2 on the x-system

  • @rich2kite
    @rich2kite 2 года назад +1

    I think I read in the past that 40mm is the equivalent of a human eyes pov which is why 35mm feels good/natural. Obviously not peripheral vision as that is wider but focused eyesight

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      i’m inclined to agree. i’ve spent a lot of time with 40mm over the years, and it almost feels like your sight isn’t changing when you raise the camera to your eye

  • @ccoppola82
    @ccoppola82 2 года назад +1

    Sam Abell is a master of 28mm documentary style photography. I think he’s compositionally one of the strongest photographers of the street/documentary genre. Well worth looking at his work. Primarily used a 28 and 90.

  • @eyewandersfoto
    @eyewandersfoto 2 года назад +1

    All good. Some astutely presented thoughts about the two focal lengths. Listen up all. :)
    It's funny, 28mm many years ago was incredibly difficult for me. It was actually shooting around the world with one of the early Ricoh GR Digitals that brought me over to it - trial by fire. But even today I find myself torn between the two as a favorite and every time that happens I'm reminded why I abso-fuggin-lutely *adore* the Pentax FA 31mm. It's always been a touch larger (the size of the lens) than I really like, but even still I adapt it too mirrorless with regularity because it's just too good. It's in my top-3 all time over the almost 14 years I've had one, simply for how comfortable it makes me and the shots it's helped me see and realize. The inbetweener.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      trial by fire is the name of the game for us photographers! you really gotta love those odd, in between focal lengths. they help make a camera / lens system special. glad you found a piece of your “forever kit”

  • @adambaileyshow361
    @adambaileyshow361 Год назад +1

    Buy a mouthguard! ha. Really enjoyed the video. Great description on how these lenses pan out in the real world.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад +1

      28mm is so much fun lol, glad you enjoyed the video. 35 is my true love in this crazy world ❤️

  • @s.z.x.01
    @s.z.x.01 Год назад +1

    “With higher degree of information comes higher degree of variation”. Thanks uncle photographer Ben

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад

      i need to rewatch this and see what i said 😂

  • @joansmith7649
    @joansmith7649 Год назад

    With the high resolution sensors that are ubiquitous today, it is no problem at all to take the 28mm and step back a foot or two and crop into the image in post in order to attain the perspective of a 35mm or even the 50mm magnification. Resolution is over rated. Don't worry about. Instead worry about shooting interesting subjects doing interesting things. If you do that, no one will ever be evaluating the resolution. And always remember, with a 28 you also have a 35 and 50. But with a 35 or 50 mm lens, you will never have a 28. With respect to portrait photography really really forget about resolution. The less resolution the better unless you happen to be shooting absolutely flawless beauty queens. A high resolution image of the average woman may get you a slap in the face.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад +1

      Resolution isn’t overrated if you print large, or simply enjoy high resolution. Also, if you often crop a 28mm to 35 or 50, wouldn’t that also make it not overrated?
      Poor resolution, missing focus, etc also can definitely effect images for the worse, and after thousands of images and hundreds of interactions, the average woman definitely won’t do that

    • @joansmith7649
      @joansmith7649 Год назад

      @@doriyancoleman It depends. If you are a landscape or architectural photographer and you want to see every blade of grass or every brick in a building a mile away, or every single individual feather on a bird, then sure resolution may be relevant if you are printing large enough to see those tiny details.
      However, how many people are getting a portrait blown up to 40" x 60" and are wanting to view said portrait from a foot away? The uprezzer software that is now available allows one to easily double the resolution of an image file with no artifacts.
      But the real question is do people really want to not only count the pores on their face but also see how clean their pores are? Or see their ever so slight moustache growing over their lip? Is this what your clients are looking for? Because my high strung neurotic models are already insecure enough about their appearance without my having them see every flaw on their body.
      You mentioned that some simply enjoy high resolution, so do they collect pixels as a hobby, or do they actually enjoy photography? Sound like they may prefer to pixel-peep at their computer and obsess over resolution. Missing focus is not an issue I have to address, as I very rarely miss focus.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад

      I’m a photographer and educator who has clients that specifically want large prints for galleries. You can enjoy high resolution and not be a pixel peeper, and also enjoy photography as your craft.
      This idea that if you enjoy resolution, you somehow aren’t as serious or artistic of a photograph is nonsensical.
      I’ve photographed hundreds of everyday people, dozens have seen themselves in my work, not a single person has ever expressed the vitriol you’re talking about

  • @SteveVickAK
    @SteveVickAK 7 месяцев назад +1

    I was born and raised in Cleveland. Love your shots. Great advice. Sub.

  • @charliemiller5831
    @charliemiller5831 9 месяцев назад +1

    great line about the 28mm...."move in and buy a mouth guard"
    you did a great job on this video, helped me a lot... samples of cropability were cool

  • @PiazZoO
    @PiazZoO 11 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent video. Good descriptions and explanations. Quick and easy. Congratulations.

  • @JasonOsbornePhotography
    @JasonOsbornePhotography 2 года назад +1

    Dope video, I personally bounce between 35mm and 50mm.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      the street photography bread & butter 💪🏾

  • @asaamv
    @asaamv 2 года назад +1

    Iam a new subscriber ❤️, hope you reply to subscriber comments or else people will go away

  • @theluckystreet
    @theluckystreet Год назад +1

    did daido moriyama use 28 mm for most of his works?

  • @johnb8538
    @johnb8538 2 года назад +1

    Well done- well presented....... San Franciscan street photog here..... good stuff...... thank you.........

  • @matthew_thefallen
    @matthew_thefallen 2 года назад +1

    I always forget I have a 28mm lens 😂
    Can't wait to try it out next time I go out taking some pics

  • @BGTuyau
    @BGTuyau Год назад +1

    Great points -and loved the Harryhausen-esque stop-motion dinosaur intro. And "Nighthawks!"

  • @acheekymonkey
    @acheekymonkey 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video! I have been up and down the dial with this issue. It's taken me time to get more comfortable and better with the wider focal lengths coming from the 50mm and 85mm. Over the years I've tried two fixed lens 28mm (Ricoh GRiii and Leica Q2), a 35 mm equiv. Fuji X100 and now I have the Ricoh griiix at 40mm which I like. But I think about getting the Ricoh GRiii at 28mm in addition from those times I want that context. I don't like getting too close, but would love to get comfortable with the 28mm. I made the mistake of thinking my discomfort with street photography was fixable with a different focal length when really it was a mental game that could be solved up here *tapping my head*.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      thanks for watching! and i empathize man. going from 50 to 35 can be a massive jump, as a lot of what makes one special, isn’t always there in the other.
      40 is such a great perspective, i can go on and on 😂
      and i’m inclined to agree! an unfit focal length can definitely put you in areas you may not be ready for, but at the end of the day, you’re right it’s all mindset 🙏🏾

  • @melodoubt
    @melodoubt Год назад +1

    Thank you for your astute insight. Definitely going to give 40mm more shutter time...

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад

      thank you! they’re all great. 40mm is versatile, challenging and rewarding

  • @andrewton9910
    @andrewton9910 2 года назад +1

    Great points. Solid video! Would you get the Ricoh GRIIIx?

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      i’d consider it! i’ve used 40mm a lot throughout the years, and enjoy the perspective. i do like the freedom of interchangeable lenses tho, that’s the tough part

  • @josecolon8143
    @josecolon8143 Год назад +1

    “and buy a mouth guard” 😂🤣😂🤣😂 bravo, bravo, bravísimo

  • @TryingtoLearntheuke
    @TryingtoLearntheuke 2 года назад +1

    Came to your channel for the first time. Excellent video. Thanks for the information.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      welcome to the community, thank you 🙏🏾

  • @suivezlemir
    @suivezlemir Год назад +1

    Dude, what an informative and well structured video. Gained a sub. Thanks for this

  • @olehc.1532
    @olehc.1532 Год назад +2

    28 40, 85 mm

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад +2

      28mm and 40mm are really speaking to me these days as well

  • @mrdarryljones1
    @mrdarryljones1 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love Cleveland! Nice to see someone taking their craft seriously! 👍🏾

  • @wongasaur
    @wongasaur 11 месяцев назад +1

    Love how concise this was! Kudos.
    How I think about it for everyday photography: if I’m shooting the people I’m sitting & talking with and don’t want to step away, 28mm is the way to go. If I’m shooting stuff that catches my eye, or interactions happening outside my personal space, I pick the 35mm.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks! That’s a great way to think of it 🤜🤛

  • @NerdcoreWasTaken
    @NerdcoreWasTaken Год назад +1

    28 with a lineup! that sounds about right lmao

  • @glennromano9053
    @glennromano9053 Год назад +1

    Amazing video. So many talking heads just talk about the look, composition, etc. You gave me more. I can totally relate to the challenges of getting your face in there with a 28mm. Sometimes that intimacy creates a moment you don't get with a longer prime, but regardless your video moved and inspired me. Just subscribed and can't wait to go through your content!

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад

      glad you enjoyed the video! welcome to the community 🙏🏾

  • @JezLerman
    @JezLerman 2 года назад +1

    Great video, fab pics. Liked. Subscribed.

  • @richardwalker4518
    @richardwalker4518 Год назад +1

    That was a good discussion of a rather topical subject, well done and thanks!