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Luca vildoza is definitely worthy of a mention as his defense on facundo campazzo was crucial. Also he hit a big three and we should also keep in mind that he had not played a single minute in the final four until that time
Ataman had publicly criticized vildosa for his performance in an unimportant greek basket league game a while ago saying he couldn't expect to get any euroleague minutes playing like this and a lot of people were critical of Ataman for exposing his player. However now it just proves how masterful Ergin is in motivating and keeping his players hungry for getting the right performance at the right time. This is also true for Sloukas who had a slump and his confidence was low while making lots of crucial turnovers at some point during the season but Ataman never criticized him and really nurtured his confidence just to get the best of him at the best time possible.
As a Turk, love my Greek brothers and sisters. Proud to see the partnership of a Turkish coach and Greek team resulting in something amazing. This shows what we can achieve if we unite and work together. Happy to see the relationship of both amazing counties getting better and better. Much love and respect to Greece and Panathinaikos 👏🏼😎
That's nice to hear for someone who carries both countries in his blood and heart Greeks and Turks are the best people in the world grtz from Piraeus brother 🇬🇷🇹🇷
What coach Ataman did was amazing. He created a totally new team from zero and made it from 17th place last year to champion. The whole euroleague basketball univers is speechless. If he did this in his first season, i can't imagine what he will do in the next with even better players as I've heard. I believe in the repeat.
We have a sample from his year in Efes where he rebuilt the entire team and took them to the final from the bottom and in the next season they were in first position looking completely unstoppable until the season was interrupted due to covid.
I do not care who has won other than Real Madrid. Nothing makes me happier than seeing Dirty Campazzo and Co get beaten by a so called underdog team. Congrats to Sloukas though.
Yes, probably the best coached basketball game I've ever seen. Pao was struggling early, because Madrid were getting some really soft calls and didn't know how to adapt. Then Ataman changed the defense and Lessort was getting all the balls, which turned out to be massive. Then when Sloukas got red hot others just followed. All the players contributed and it was a team game masterclass.
Vildoza should be mentioned. He did a great job on campazzo. Jerian grant is a key player for pao and he should be named defensive player of euroleague
Ataman: Best Coach of the Year. Lessort: Best Center of the year (all the points the Centers of the final 4 scored, added together, are equal to the points Lessort socored byhimself!not to mention his defence and that he did alone without a 2nd Center). Jerian Grant: Defender of the Year. Kedric Nunn: Best scorer in Europe.... Kostas Sloukaaas! Best leader in Europe Maybe I miss other players, that deserve a "best" spot.
@@greekveteran2715 Juancho the best defensive power forward, Kalaitzakis the best hustler, Grigonis the best spot shoter(along with Alec Peters), Mitoglou and Papapetrou great comeback stories, coach Serelis the best assistant coach and Sani Becirovic the best gm for recruiting all this players
ERGIN ATAMAN UNDISPUTEDLY BEST COACH IN THE EUROLEAGUE AT THIS MOMENT. CHUS MATEO WITH 7 MILLION MORE IN HIS BUDGET AND BARELY MANAGED NOT TO LOSE WITH MORE THAN 20 POINTS DIFFERENCE. IF I WAS HIM I WOULD BE ASHAMED OF THE BEST COACH AWARD HE RECIEVED
Το τερματισες ρε ψηλε μου, το ματς ηταν στους 5 ποντους με 3 λεπτα για τη ληξη κι εσυ κανεις λες και τους ειχες double score σε ολο τον αγωνα. Καλυτερος ο Αταμαν σιγουρα, αλλα κρατα λιγο την ψυχραιμια σου.
Real was the best team before the final with 31 wins in 38 games. Well deserved best coach by the spanish. If they change the rules and wait till the finals then Ataman should receive it.
@@MrTiulia I am not complaining about money, quite the opposite, I'm emphasising on why it doesn't matter. Someone else who got humiliated by Real in the semifinal is the one who complained and wined like a baby, crying about Real's budget. Ataman is a professional, not a crybaby. This is why he has 3 CHAMPIONSHIPS IN 4 YEARS, and Mr.B has none, and will never get one if he continues to have a sore-loser mentality. Bartzokas said that Final-Four was beyond their expectations. Ataman said that if they don't reach the final four he will leave the team. Guess which coach is the champion of Europe and wich coach only has national cups that no one cares about to show for. Still don't undesrtand the difference?
@@lm7_gio Φίλε από ότι φαίνεται ακόμα δεν έχεις καταλάβει την σημασία αυτού του παιχνιδιού. Σε αυτό το παιχνίδι ο Αταμάν απέδειξε ότι ο Ματέο είναι απλά ένας κομπάρσος που υποδύεται τον προπονητή, απλά και μόνο επειδή πρέπει να υπάρχει ένας προπονητής για τυπικούς λόγους. Η Ρεαλ την οποία στην φετινή σεζόν την είχα θεοποιήσει σε όλα τα επίπεδα (ορθά, αλλά προπονητικά δεν έπρεπε), αποδείχτηκε ότι το μόνο πράγμα που έχει να δείξει είναι οι παίκτες. Έχει τους δύο καλύτερους ψηλούς στην Ευρώπη με διαφορά (Ταβάρες, Πουαργιέ) και από εκεί και πέρα όλοι της οι παίκτες είναι εκπληκτικοί σουτέρ με τεράστια γκάμα κινήσεων, εμπειρία και ταλέντο. Ξέρουν να παίζουν πικ'ν'ρολ, ζώνη, και να ταΐζουν τους ψηλούς μπάλα. Στο 99% τις εκατό των περιπτώσεων δεν χρειάζεται να κάνουν και τίποτα άλλο λόγο του ατομικού επιπέδου του κάθε παίκτη. Φάνηκε όμως πως όταν έρθει η ώρα να αντιμετωπίσουν ένα καλά οργανωμένο αντίπαλο ο οποίος δεν απέχει και τόσο από αυτό, χάνονται, και δεν υπάρχει κανένας εκεί να τους αναδιοργανώσει. Όταν ο Σλούκας κατέστρεψε την ζώνη της Ρεαλ, ο Καμπάτσο που ήταν στον πάγκο ήταν πολύ πιο προβληματισμένος από τον Ματέο ο οποίος σαν να έκανε πως δεν καταλάβαινε και ήλπιζε να ανοίξει η Γη να τον καταπιεί. Η Ρεαλ είναι μια αγέλη λιονταριών υπό την ηγεσία ενός πρόβατου.
Thanks! We have 1 breakdown like this every week. You can check the past ones under the Breakdowns playlist. I made one about Sloukas joining PAO last summer, too
My coach in basketball (late 70's early 80's ) used to say: The zone be punished from far and breaks by near. [I hope my english is good to explain that ]
You are genuine "Basketikos" guy. In Greece we call Basketikos the few who understand the sport perfectly. I have been watching basketball since 1987(of course). But my analysis is non existent. I simply shout "yes" when we score, and "no" when we don't. In football i can analyze my team, the tactics and each player. But after each basketball game i need a "Basketikos" to explain to me why the hell we lost. It will sound not true, but i am close to 50 years old now and i believe that only 1 in 5 fans fully understands basketball. Even though it is only 5 vs 5 compared to 11 vs 11, basketball looks more complex than football to me.
the analysis was great. You could talk about Vildoza and Hernangomez. They were important in the comeback for Pao. Real lost the game because they couldn't adapt to Pao's defense. Like always, it's better to make shots in the end of the game than in the start. They won that way with OLY but they couldn't with PAO bcs their defense was weak.
Great work Augustas. 14 down and wih Nunn 3 fouls on the first (!!) quarter everyone thought it was done. Then Ataman (and Serelis) threw 'the defenders' in, Kalaitzakis-Juancho who along with the omnipresent Jerian and Vildoza who had the guts to step up out of literally nowhere (freakin hard on a final), managed to force real into bad decisions, start to make her feel vulnerable and eventually mentally broke her. The rest was basically clutcu leadership and ice cold blood from Sloukas and Nunn. I was inside, lifetime experience. Great work, again
Great video Augustas. Keep up the great work guys and keep on bringing excellent video analysis & stats (Thinking Basketball & Baskethead style). Agree that the long Sloukas' 3 was the most important shot in the game. Just to mention, Pana & Real Madrid were the only teams in the top 6 in Off. Efficiency, Def. Efficiency & 3P% the entire season (incl. F4) Two best teams went to the final, the best team won. Go PAO ☘☘☘☘
Great commentary, man. The difference was that Pao and Ataman never pushed the panic button in Quarters 1 and 2. But Real panicked in the 4th quarter. They never capitalized during the minutes when Lessort or Nunn were not playing. Do you have the commentary for Pao v Fener game?
You guys can do a documantary about Pao's epic journey thoughout the season , with the ups and downs , coming from 17th place to winning it all in a year.
PAO had the 2nd biggest budget in the Euroleague this season €35m. Fenerbache had €25m, Olympiacos had €22m. The highest was Real with €42m and the lowest was Zalgiris with €13m. PAO in the 2021-2022 season was on €9.5m.
The best for Panathinaikos now begins. What Bertomeu did to us from 2012 in the semi-final with CSKA where he changed the history of basketball until now will be paid by all of them watching Panathinaikos build a new Empire in basketball. The bond that the Management-Coach-Philathletes have does not exist anywhere, this was everyone's fear and now it has returned. Sit down now everyone and see how Panathinaikos will lift the cups. Next year and from now on he will start as a favorite every year to win the Euroleague with the team he will build.
@@truthhearer6323 I don't think he necessarily meant next year, the discussion is about the future of Panathinaikos in general. Sloukas will play next year too anyway. So no need to attack people for no reason.
Great analyzing right there man, thank you!! It seemed like Tavares was out of space after picking up very early fouls in the 1st, but I did not realize he exposed Real defensively that much. Going from -14 to +18 against this year's Real was a statement made from the team. Get ready for next year!!
Played the best ball in Europe over the past 3 months, got a well deserved title, with everybody contributing and being important all season and in the F4. We have been here before. This is only the beginning for the new era for Panathinaikos, and what a bang they've made already. Losing the local chip to Olympiakos seems like an impossibility, and improvements to the roster are on the cards for next season. With all things being equal a B2B will not surprise me . Awesome basketball from the best team in Europe. Congrats to all!
You had 6000 fans vs maccabi in the beginning of the season becaue of a few bad games, partizan had a terrible season but the worst attendace was 19000 against alba after a horrible season.
Very good game analysis. I totally agree with your highlighting the key factors, especially the obscure (not so obscure) tremendous job by Grant in breaking Madrid's confidence by positioning himself always in the right spot and disrupting their plays in the 2nd half. Of course you don't beat Real without adding the monster preformance from Sloukas, the killer instinct of Nunn and the gigantinc amount of work and physicality by Lessort. But key factor to boost pana's odds and disrupt Real's flawless offense was Grant's defense because in the end Real helped Pana with all that 3 point shooting rage, while you have the most dominant center in europe, not to mention that his backup is himself one of the top centers. A team does that when there's a dramatic drop in confidence, speaking of an extraterrestrial roster as Real had it means that the other team got under your skin and into your brain. Grant was the initiator of that process. In addition we can say that Ataman put Mateo in his pocket and honestly, while I was rooting for Pana, as a basketball watcher it was painful to see a team like Real, after a such a dominant regular season, havin nothing to answer but threepointers with everyone trying to be the hero and no actual team play nor finding mismatches or any kind of size advantage. They looked like an nba team. And that's not a compliment.
As always, another great video, thanks for providing informative content. You mentioned Kalaitsakis played an important role in defence which helped PAO to the title. In an interview after the game, Kalaitsakis said that Sloukas had managed to persuade Ataman to give him (Kalaitsakis) more minutes on the court. PAO's Euroleague gross budget seems to have skyrocketed from €9.5m in 2021/2022 (2nd lowest) to €35m in 2023/2024 (2nd highest) - how much has this played a deciding factor? There's a slight correlation between budget vs results (although Armani has yet to make the Final 4 spending €30m+).
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv Ataman unlucky His one championship goes away because of pandemic Efes was on fire that year but they cancelled everything so unlucky ımo
That's a real basketball analysis. Congrats! The fact that Real Madrid bet almost everything in 3-point shots cost them the match for both PAO's and European basketball's shake. Of course, we love clutch threes and all that stuff, but European basketball is way more multidimensional than a 3-point contest. Don't get me wrong: Real Madrid played the most multidimensional basketball during the whole season, but in the final they lost their balance and that gave PAO the opportunity to get the trophy as the 2nd best team of the season. I'm extremely happy for PAO's comeback to the top, but I have to say that we have to help all the European powerhouses to be real powerhouses and finally keep our best talents here. Basketball in Europe is way more competitive, emotional and loud, even with way less money, talent, organization, etc. This type of basketball deserves to have players of the quality of Doncic, Jokic, Giannis, etc. We miss the money which come through hard work (from the professionals) and true support (from the fans). Let's do it!
We have to start from the very basics in Europe. 1st, we cannot have FIBA and Euroleague competing over who is the legitimate pan-Eruopean competition. We need one major competition and one minor, not 4 different ones. Then, whoever manages that competition has to ensure that the teams remain rich and able to ivnest and that the budget gaps are minimised, meaning more participation and prize money for the teams and a budget cap for player salaries. If we don't start from these then Europe will always be behind NBA and all the top European talent will be playing in the other side of the pond.
@@EverydayNormalGeek The dispute between FIBA & Euroleague has been ridiculous. I think the end of this is the most obvious and easy step. Other steps can be way more difficult. For example, a salary cap would bridge the financial gaps for bigger competition but it probably would be another serious issue to the lack of top tier talent, because even now without a salary cap the richest teams in Europe can't afford NBA caliber players (with only a few exceptions). Anyway, it's not our job to find the solutions. Our job is to support our teams as fans and appreciate those professionals who will honestly try for the growth of European basketball and not just for their pockets.
Everybody would love that, but the truth is basketball is not nearly as popular in Europe so the revenue will never be there. Add to that that the countries in which it is popular enough are small markets and it's just futile. Without money you can't compete even if you can make a better product.
really ???and why while he was at olympiakos every pao fan saying that was a very overrated player???is the knowen clasical greek stereotype?? sloukas was the best move from giannakopoulos so far.trust me
Excellent game analysis!! Congratulations. The conclusion of this game is: Don’t ever feel certain that you are gonna win, until the last moment of the game.
As the saying goes , " it can not be only an uphill road until the end ". It is bound to happened at some point to start missing threes . And for a team that won all this season games primary with 3point shots , it becames a second nature to the playing style of the players . And of course at difficult times by instict you try to do what you always do to survive. And every time you miss one the preassure gets higher , you turn deep into your nature , you miss more and that snowball until you reach the point of no return . Remember last year , they stole / won the tittle with a 3point shot from a guy who had zero points and came in the last second from the bench . The only persn who will have made them won this final is Gabriel Deck . At least two levels higher class from campazo .more mental player . more balanced and with higher ability to read the enemy defence and always a solid shooting hand . But ce est la vie ! pame gia to 8o tou xronou !
Kostas Sloukas kill Real momentum at 4 quorter 4"minits before the end - Panathinaikos well done champions 🎉🎉🎉fantastic game, fantastic atmosphere by Pao fans, best euroleague final game ever!!😊
So I think I understood the game a bit differently. I believe Real lost due to there problem to adapt to a different game. I don't want to make it too long, but Real big guys where forced into several fouls, which Pao obviously took advantage of as much as they could under the basket, shown at the end with 3 guys being fouled out. Also lets not be unfair and say Pao where playing a dangerous game, at least to me. Pao was closing in there players as much as they could, behind the 3 point line, risking the 3 point shot from a team with the 3rd best shot in the league. They saw Real shots where not going in and Pao even switched at one point to Zone in the 3 quarter, if I'm not mistaken, which shows there obvious tactic, saying to there faces Shoot, that's all you're gonna get!! but you're gonna miss (by all means leaving someone open doesn't mean leaving them completely, but focusing your mind always on Tavares and the big guys as much as you can and the rebound). I think Real Coach was stupid for allowing his players to continue a bad psychological game with themselves, he should have changed it up, slowed it down, and adjusted the system to the big guys. Real barely missed under the basket and whatever the missed most of them where fouls. I give it to Ataman though he saw the issue with the Spaniards and hit the nail so hard they're ego felt it. I mean people who have played professionally know that you cant stop shooting even if its the right thing to do, EGO, that's where the coach comes in!!! Congrats PAO welcome back to the top!!!!!
Just before they started shooting and losing 3's, Pao players had deflected 3/4 attempts to play inside. In 2/4 instances they stole the pass towards Tavares. So afterwards they got scared (momentarily of course) to pass the ball inside and they started to shoot threes. Pao Players, and you are right, after the 2nd or the 3rd missed three from Real they gave them space to shoot while closing in on the inside. There you are absolutelly right, their coach should had intevene and should had calm them down, but I think he "religiously" beleived that the old legendary guard will deliver.
" I would like to play for you", είπε ο Γιάνναρος ο Αντετοκούνμπο, στον κόουτς Αταμάν... Π α ρ ά τ α τα εκατομμύρια, τούς... πακτωλούς... χρημάτων, Γιάνναρε, και έλα εδώ, να σηκώσουμε μαζί... π ο λ λ έ ς τέτοιες κούπες ! ! ! Στην ζωή, δεν είναι όλα... χρήμα, φίλε. 'Ελα εδώ, να χαρείς το μπάσκετ ! Είμαστε ΟΙΚΟΓΕΝΕΙΑ, αδερφέ. 'Ελα ξανά πίσω στην χώρα που σε περίθαλψε και σε ανέδειξε. Γύρνα πίσω στην α π λ ό τ η τ α, και το οικογενειακό α ν θ ρ ώ π ι ν ο κλίμα ! Γιάννη Αντετοκούνμπο, ο Παναθηναϊκός είναι Ε Δ Ω, και σε περιμένει ! ! !
I don't like these Lithuanians because they were unfair with most dominant Euroleague team while this team had hard time after Obradovic era. So for sure I'll not support them now that we are on top of the Euroleague. BUT, I'm objective. Great analysis and amazing edit.
He’s a good coach but at the same time, they have great talent on their roster. Pao made good adjustments to be fair. But we will beat them with half their budget. Gate 7.
Spending big money alone does not bring success. It is important to be the kind of coach who can make the club owners spend money on players the coach wants in the club. For instance, Sloukas would not join Pana if it was not for Ataman. Grant was also playing for Telekom in Turkey last year and Ataman knew his potential. It is also important that a coach can manage the star players with huge ago. Look at Milano and Barca who are big spenders. They were not even in F4.
Ergin Ataman: 3 Euroleague championships in 4 years Mr.Bean: 2 Milko Super Cups (and left Sloukas open for transfers) I don't see that hapenning any time soon ☘🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆☘
Without the subs at the beginning all you hear is "GIANNI, GIANNI, GIANNI, GIANNI, GIANNI..." . Pοοr reporter couldn't get a profile pic. xD Ps. VOODOO VOODOO VOODOO VOODOOOO ☘☘☘☘☘☘☘
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv He had talks but things are different there, you can't be the same type of coach you are here. European coaches especially old school ones, were above the players and are used that what they saw is law, everyone should play strictly how they dictate etc, which is not how the NBA operates. Now Ataman is way more modern and his coaching style is very similar to what NBA coaches do(let your talented players dictate the offense, but inspire/convince them to play hard on defense), the only thing that would hold him back in my opinion is his antics on and off the court which wouldn't vibe with the NBA.
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Luca vildoza is definitely worthy of a mention as his defense on facundo campazzo was crucial. Also he hit a big three and we should also keep in mind that he had not played a single minute in the final four until that time
He showed that he got heart. Ataman was ready for this kind of match up.
You are correct.
Same with Kalaitzakis who was like a Leech in defense
Ataman had publicly criticized vildosa for his performance in an unimportant greek basket league game a while ago saying he couldn't expect to get any euroleague minutes playing like this and a lot of people were critical of Ataman for exposing his player. However now it just proves how masterful Ergin is in motivating and keeping his players hungry for getting the right performance at the right time. This is also true for Sloukas who had a slump and his confidence was low while making lots of crucial turnovers at some point during the season but Ataman never criticized him and really nurtured his confidence just to get the best of him at the best time possible.
Very very true 👌🏻
As a Turk, love my Greek brothers and sisters. Proud to see the partnership of a Turkish coach and Greek team resulting in something amazing. This shows what we can achieve if we unite and work together. Happy to see the relationship of both amazing counties getting better and better. Much love and respect to Greece and Panathinaikos 👏🏼😎
That's nice to hear for someone who carries both countries in his blood and heart Greeks and Turks are the best people in the world
grtz from Piraeus brother 🇬🇷🇹🇷
What coach Ataman did was amazing. He created a totally new team from zero and made it from 17th place last year to champion. The whole euroleague basketball univers is speechless. If he did this in his first season, i can't imagine what he will do in the next with even better players as I've heard. I believe in the repeat.
We have a sample from his year in Efes where he rebuilt the entire team and took them to the final from the bottom and in the next season they were in first position looking completely unstoppable until the season was interrupted due to covid.
Even mentioning 17th place and last season does not make sense, literally 90% of team is different,by different i mean better
@@nikola3110That's painfully simple thinking, come back when you know basketball
@@truthhearer6323 Why?
@@nikola3110prison mike
This is a good example of how well the Turks and Greeks can achieve when they work together
Congratulations 🎉
Yep, they dominated the whole world pretty much
@@Elvetos *mediteranean
Unfortunately that didn't work with Fatih Terim
@@Pro13Sabterim is old.
BS
I do not care who has won other than Real Madrid. Nothing makes me happier than seeing Dirty Campazzo and Co get beaten by a so called underdog team. Congrats to Sloukas though.
How s an underdog tho? 2nd seed on regular season for panathinaikos
@@enzio1388 Exactly. Who was number one seed?. Real. So, Second seed is underdog in comparison with number one seed. :))
Very happy to see dirty players such as Llull, yabusele, fernandez did not win the cup, thank god
we wiil get and the eight star this year the king is back tell the queen he is in charge now
Yes, probably the best coached basketball game I've ever seen. Pao was struggling early, because Madrid were getting some really soft calls and didn't know how to adapt. Then Ataman changed the defense and Lessort was getting all the balls, which turned out to be massive. Then when Sloukas got red hot others just followed. All the players contributed and it was a team game masterclass.
I absolutly agree. Masterpiece of couching and teamplay.
Best euroleague final game ever !! Well done Panathinaikos!! 🎉🎉🎉GREEKS ARE BACK!!!
Tesekkurler Ergın Ataman
Στέλιο εσύ; 😅
@@athenavergo87 Ναι εγώ!! Το vergo87..? Πέτσα εσύ..?
Congratulations from oly fan. For me best final is 2012, sure u understand my reasoning 😊
Vildoza should be mentioned. He did a great job on campazzo. Jerian grant is a key player for pao and he should be named defensive player of euroleague
Ataman: Best Coach of the Year. Lessort: Best Center of the year (all the points the Centers of the final 4 scored, added together, are equal to the points Lessort socored byhimself!not to mention his defence and that he did alone without a 2nd Center). Jerian Grant: Defender of the Year. Kedric Nunn: Best scorer in Europe.... Kostas Sloukaaas! Best leader in Europe Maybe I miss other players, that deserve a "best" spot.
@@greekveteran2715 Juancho the best defensive power forward, Kalaitzakis the best hustler, Grigonis the best spot shoter(along with Alec Peters), Mitoglou and Papapetrou great comeback stories, coach Serelis the best assistant coach and Sani Becirovic the best gm for recruiting all this players
@@Pro13Sab Spot on man!! You added everything I missed!
Ergin ataman is the best coach
ERGIN ATAMAN UNDISPUTEDLY BEST COACH IN THE EUROLEAGUE AT THIS MOMENT. CHUS MATEO WITH 7 MILLION MORE IN HIS BUDGET AND BARELY MANAGED NOT TO LOSE WITH MORE THAN 20 POINTS DIFFERENCE. IF I WAS HIM I WOULD BE ASHAMED OF THE BEST COACH AWARD HE RECIEVED
A bit cringe to complain about money, when PAO is second budget team in euroleague 😉
Το τερματισες ρε ψηλε μου, το ματς ηταν στους 5 ποντους με 3 λεπτα για τη ληξη κι εσυ κανεις λες και τους ειχες double score σε ολο τον αγωνα. Καλυτερος ο Αταμαν σιγουρα, αλλα κρατα λιγο την ψυχραιμια σου.
Real was the best team before the final with 31 wins in 38 games. Well deserved best coach by the spanish. If they change the rules and wait till the finals then Ataman should receive it.
@@MrTiulia I am not complaining about money, quite the opposite, I'm emphasising on why it doesn't matter. Someone else who got humiliated by Real in the semifinal is the one who complained and wined like a baby, crying about Real's budget. Ataman is a professional, not a crybaby. This is why he has 3 CHAMPIONSHIPS IN 4 YEARS, and Mr.B has none, and will never get one if he continues to have a sore-loser mentality. Bartzokas said that Final-Four was beyond their expectations. Ataman said that if they don't reach the final four he will leave the team. Guess which coach is the champion of Europe and wich coach only has national cups that no one cares about to show for. Still don't undesrtand the difference?
@@lm7_gio Φίλε από ότι φαίνεται ακόμα δεν έχεις καταλάβει την σημασία αυτού του παιχνιδιού. Σε αυτό το παιχνίδι ο Αταμάν απέδειξε ότι ο Ματέο είναι απλά ένας κομπάρσος που υποδύεται τον προπονητή, απλά και μόνο επειδή πρέπει να υπάρχει ένας προπονητής για τυπικούς λόγους. Η Ρεαλ την οποία στην φετινή σεζόν την είχα θεοποιήσει σε όλα τα επίπεδα (ορθά, αλλά προπονητικά δεν έπρεπε), αποδείχτηκε ότι το μόνο πράγμα που έχει να δείξει είναι οι παίκτες. Έχει τους δύο καλύτερους ψηλούς στην Ευρώπη με διαφορά (Ταβάρες, Πουαργιέ) και από εκεί και πέρα όλοι της οι παίκτες είναι εκπληκτικοί σουτέρ με τεράστια γκάμα κινήσεων, εμπειρία και ταλέντο. Ξέρουν να παίζουν πικ'ν'ρολ, ζώνη, και να ταΐζουν τους ψηλούς μπάλα. Στο 99% τις εκατό των περιπτώσεων δεν χρειάζεται να κάνουν και τίποτα άλλο λόγο του ατομικού επιπέδου του κάθε παίκτη. Φάνηκε όμως πως όταν έρθει η ώρα να αντιμετωπίσουν ένα καλά οργανωμένο αντίπαλο ο οποίος δεν απέχει και τόσο από αυτό, χάνονται, και δεν υπάρχει κανένας εκεί να τους αναδιοργανώσει. Όταν ο Σλούκας κατέστρεψε την ζώνη της Ρεαλ, ο Καμπάτσο που ήταν στον πάγκο ήταν πολύ πιο προβληματισμένος από τον Ματέο ο οποίος σαν να έκανε πως δεν καταλάβαινε και ήλπιζε να ανοίξει η Γη να τον καταπιεί. Η Ρεαλ είναι μια αγέλη λιονταριών υπό την ηγεσία ενός πρόβατου.
Great analysis, would love more videos like this!
Thanks! We have 1 breakdown like
this every week. You can check the past ones under the Breakdowns playlist. I made one about Sloukas joining PAO last summer, too
I agree. pao was not able to attack on zone defense. Sloukas creativity brought the game.
That shot was pure iso skill and confidence without any set plays. Dagger
That 3pointer was what seperates very good players from great players.
legend
Yeap, it's times like these you want those players to make the difference.
My coach in basketball (late 70's early 80's ) used to say: The zone be punished from far and breaks by near. [I hope my english is good to explain that ]
I honestly believe the soul of this Panathinaikos is Jerian Grant.
You are genuine "Basketikos" guy. In Greece we call Basketikos the few who understand the sport perfectly. I have been watching basketball since 1987(of course). But my analysis is non existent. I simply shout "yes" when we score, and "no" when we don't. In football i can analyze my team, the tactics and each player. But after each basketball game i need a "Basketikos" to explain to me why the hell we lost. It will sound not true, but i am close to 50 years old now and i believe that only 1 in 5 fans fully understands basketball. Even though it is only 5 vs 5 compared to 11 vs 11, basketball looks more complex than football to me.
Giannis: i wanna play for you, Ataman: then come to PAO
Foreshadowing
the analysis was great. You could talk about Vildoza and Hernangomez. They were important in the comeback for Pao. Real lost the game because they couldn't adapt to Pao's defense.
Like always, it's better to make shots in the end of the game than in the start. They won that way with OLY but they couldn't with PAO bcs their defense was weak.
Great work Augustas.
14 down and wih Nunn 3 fouls on the first (!!) quarter everyone thought it was done.
Then Ataman (and Serelis) threw 'the defenders' in, Kalaitzakis-Juancho who along with the omnipresent Jerian and Vildoza who had the guts to step up out of literally nowhere (freakin hard on a final), managed to force real into bad decisions, start to make her feel vulnerable and eventually mentally broke her.
The rest was basically clutcu leadership and ice cold blood from Sloukas and Nunn.
I was inside, lifetime experience.
Great work, again
Yıllarca bu zafer konuşulacak ve siz bende o maçı canlı izledim diye ömür boyu ölüneceksiniz❤❤
Best F4 video across all basketball channels. Well done 💯
Great video Augustas. Keep up the great work guys and keep on bringing excellent video analysis & stats (Thinking Basketball & Baskethead style). Agree that the long Sloukas' 3 was the most important shot in the game. Just to mention, Pana & Real Madrid were the only teams in the top 6 in Off. Efficiency, Def. Efficiency & 3P% the entire season (incl. F4) Two best teams went to the final, the best team won. Go PAO ☘☘☘☘
Maybe the best euroleague final. Excellent analysis, thank you!
Great commentary, man. The difference was that Pao and Ataman never pushed the panic button in Quarters 1 and 2. But Real panicked in the 4th quarter. They never capitalized during the minutes when Lessort or Nunn were not playing. Do you have the commentary for Pao v Fener game?
What a game. Looking forward to see Pao defending their title next year
Ergin Ataman is the best coach at the moment. Euroleaugue should of chosen him as a best coach of the year.
As a fan of panathinaikos i would say great analysis of the game it was exactly how you set with a few words coach ataman outplayed mateo.
thanks a lot!
4 days later still crying from joy
When Greeks and Turks cooperate :)
In basketball and football; unstoppable
Great analysis , great basketball channel! Grant is exactly like legendary Panagiotis Giannakis.
Game much better than any NBA games.
What about vildoza against campazo?same fast first step..he didn't even play in the semifinal
Super Team and Coach.Respect Panathinaikos👍
Thank you HALIL ERGIN ATAMAN 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
You guys can do a documantary about Pao's epic journey thoughout the season , with the ups and downs , coming from 17th place to winning it all in a year.
90% of players is not same like last year,and best players are brought
So? If it's that easy, why doesn't everyone do it?
@@nikola3110best players that bought are Balcerowsky, Kostas Antentokoumpo, Grant, Papapetrou, Vildoza, Moraitis ?
PAO had the 2nd biggest budget in the Euroleague this season €35m. Fenerbache had €25m, Olympiacos had €22m. The highest was Real with €42m and the lowest was Zalgiris with €13m. PAO in the 2021-2022 season was on €9.5m.
beautiful analysis. keep it up!
thanks a lot!
The best for Panathinaikos now begins. What Bertomeu did to us from 2012 in the semi-final with CSKA where he changed the history of basketball until now will be paid by all of them watching Panathinaikos build a new Empire in basketball. The bond that the Management-Coach-Philathletes have does not exist anywhere, this was everyone's fear and now it has returned. Sit down now everyone and see how Panathinaikos will lift the cups. Next year and from now on he will start as a favorite every year to win the Euroleague with the team he will build.
You are right. I think they can do it. And I think they will do it. Pana should also get Shane Larkin because Sloukas is getting old.
@@KaraMizahFutbolHDLarkin already renewed with Efes, you big football expert
@@truthhearer6323 I don't think he necessarily meant next year, the discussion is about the future of Panathinaikos in general. Sloukas will play next year too anyway. So no need to attack people for no reason.
@@astarti23xxFacts....
Great analyzing right there man, thank you!! It seemed like Tavares was out of space after picking up very early fouls in the 1st, but I did not realize he exposed Real defensively that much. Going from -14 to +18 against this year's Real was a statement made from the team. Get ready for next year!!
Even this Turk-hating Baltic guy could not say anything bad about Ataman. Well done Ergin.
Excellent video, excellent work, excellent channel. Well done boys! Oh, and we want Rytis!!!! haha
Wonderful analysis. THX
Best of Ergin ataman
Great video! Thanks for one of the best analysis I've seen!
Yugoplastica 89 and Panathinaikos 09 the best teams in Euroleague history ever.
Played the best ball in Europe over the past 3 months, got a well deserved title, with everybody contributing and being important all season and in the F4. We have been here before. This is only the beginning for the new era for Panathinaikos, and what a bang they've made already. Losing the local chip to Olympiakos seems like an impossibility, and improvements to the roster are on the cards for next season. With all things being equal a B2B will not surprise me . Awesome basketball from the best team in Europe. Congrats to all!
Nice analysis and beautiful work.
Ergin Ataman is New Zeljko Obradovic. Maybe will be better than Zeljko
My comment on this video is this:
Voodoo voodoo, voodoo voodoo, και πράσινη μαγειαααα
PANATHINAIKOS THE BIGGEST TEAM IN EUROPE☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️
You had 6000 fans vs maccabi in the beginning of the season becaue of a few bad games, partizan had a terrible season but the worst attendace was 19000 against alba after a horrible season.
@@rommul1389bro the war started and people were afraid to go in case of terrorists
Wtf you say?...Did you dip your tongue in your mind before writing it?...@@rommul1389
@@rommul1389so,Partizan won the European trophy for audience attendance. Anything else?
Pao is the best team in 23/24 . Unstoppable at the F4
Very good game analysis.
I totally agree with your highlighting the key factors, especially the obscure (not so obscure) tremendous job by Grant in breaking Madrid's confidence by positioning himself always in the right spot and disrupting their plays in the 2nd half.
Of course you don't beat Real without adding the monster preformance from Sloukas, the killer instinct of Nunn and the gigantinc amount of work and physicality by Lessort. But key factor to boost pana's odds and disrupt Real's flawless offense was Grant's defense because in the end Real helped Pana with all that 3 point shooting rage, while you have the most dominant center in europe, not to mention that his backup is himself one of the top centers.
A team does that when there's a dramatic drop in confidence, speaking of an extraterrestrial roster as Real had it means that the other team got under your skin and into your brain. Grant was the initiator of that process.
In addition we can say that Ataman put Mateo in his pocket and honestly, while I was rooting for Pana, as a basketball watcher it was painful to see a team like Real, after a such a dominant regular season, havin nothing to answer but threepointers with everyone trying to be the hero and no actual team play nor finding mismatches or any kind of size advantage. They looked like an nba team. And that's not a compliment.
Bravo Pana
Shots fired at Doc Rivers
As always, another great video, thanks for providing informative content. You mentioned Kalaitsakis played an important role in defence which helped PAO to the title. In an interview after the game, Kalaitsakis said that Sloukas had managed to persuade Ataman to give him (Kalaitsakis) more minutes on the court.
PAO's Euroleague gross budget seems to have skyrocketed from €9.5m in 2021/2022 (2nd lowest) to €35m in 2023/2024 (2nd highest) - how much has this played a deciding factor? There's a slight correlation between budget vs results (although Armani has yet to make the Final 4 spending €30m+).
Success does not come without spending money. There is no guarantee of success by spending money
7/8 finals only PANATHINAIKOS...... THE KING IS BACK☘☘☘☘☘☘☘
7 of 7.... the lost final was Suproliga, not Euroleague!!!
Love your breakdowns Augustus Greetings from Indiana
So glad to hear! thanks a lot and greetings back from Lithuania!
Is Ataman now the 3rd or 4th greatest euroleague coach of all time? Can we even say that he’s arguably the 2nd greatest now?
More coaches with more titles.
If you go by active coaches, he is 3.
Obradovic (9)
Messina(4)
Ataman (3)
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv Ataman unlucky
His one championship goes away because of pandemic
Efes was on fire that year but they cancelled everything so unlucky ımo
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv id take ataman over Messina any day
Great analysis! Thanks! 🙏
thanks for the comment!
You are to the point !Sloukas shot was the most important thing in the game and mitoglou change..
thanks a lot!
That's a real basketball analysis. Congrats!
The fact that Real Madrid bet almost everything in 3-point shots cost them the match for both PAO's and European basketball's shake.
Of course, we love clutch threes and all that stuff, but European basketball is way more multidimensional than a 3-point contest.
Don't get me wrong: Real Madrid played the most multidimensional basketball during the whole season, but in the final they lost their balance and that gave PAO the opportunity to get the trophy as the 2nd best team of the season.
I'm extremely happy for PAO's comeback to the top, but I have to say that we have to help all the European powerhouses to be real powerhouses and finally keep our best talents here. Basketball in Europe is way more competitive, emotional and loud, even with way less money, talent, organization, etc.
This type of basketball deserves to have players of the quality of Doncic, Jokic, Giannis, etc. We miss the money which come through hard work (from the professionals) and true support (from the fans). Let's do it!
We have to start from the very basics in Europe. 1st, we cannot have FIBA and Euroleague competing over who is the legitimate pan-Eruopean competition. We need one major competition and one minor, not 4 different ones. Then, whoever manages that competition has to ensure that the teams remain rich and able to ivnest and that the budget gaps are minimised, meaning more participation and prize money for the teams and a budget cap for player salaries. If we don't start from these then Europe will always be behind NBA and all the top European talent will be playing in the other side of the pond.
@@EverydayNormalGeek The dispute between FIBA & Euroleague has been ridiculous. I think the end of this is the most obvious and easy step.
Other steps can be way more difficult.
For example, a salary cap would bridge the financial gaps for bigger competition but it probably would be another serious issue to the lack of top tier talent, because even now without a salary cap the richest teams in Europe can't afford NBA caliber players (with only a few exceptions).
Anyway, it's not our job to find the solutions. Our job is to support our teams as fans and appreciate those professionals who will honestly try for the growth of European basketball and not just for their pockets.
Everybody would love that, but the truth is basketball is not nearly as popular in Europe so the revenue will never be there. Add to that that the countries in which it is popular enough are small markets and it's just futile. Without money you can't compete even if you can make a better product.
Good Analysis
Good Content
Keep it up 👍
Grtz from Düsseldorf/Germany
Also, 4-5 shots with mostly 3pointers didnt go in from Super Mario. Which helped.
Skoukas is worth every penny panathinaikos gave ☘️☘️☘️
really ???and why while he was at olympiakos every pao fan saying that was a very overrated player???is the knowen clasical greek stereotype??
sloukas was the best move from giannakopoulos so far.trust me
Great video buddy. 👏
thanks a lot!
You guys are goood reading the games. 👏👏
thanks!
Great Video!
Thank you!
From zero to hero within a year, that's the biggest difference between NBA and Europe. In NBA you need to plan 10 years ahead to achieve that.
Great Analysis!☘️
Excellent game analysis!!
Congratulations.
The conclusion of this game is: Don’t ever feel certain that you are gonna win, until the last moment of the game.
thank you!
panathinaikos first quarter was bad because Ataman was watching Galatasaray's championship game😂
Gianis for pao,Player and. Micic real why not ?then we go crazy basketgame
*Maann another one named Kendrick cooking someone* 😭🤣
Hahah I see what you did there
Great analysis
thank you!
Greek Freak back to Greece! nicer weather and very exciting
As the saying goes , " it can not be only an uphill road until the end ". It is bound to happened at some point to start missing threes .
And for a team that won all this season games primary with 3point shots , it becames a second nature to the playing style of the players . And of course at difficult times by instict you try to do what you always do to survive. And every time you miss one the preassure gets higher , you turn deep into your nature , you miss more and that snowball until you reach the point of no return .
Remember last year , they stole / won the tittle with a 3point shot from a guy who had zero points and came in the last second from the bench .
The only persn who will have made them won this final is Gabriel Deck . At least two levels higher class from campazo .more mental player . more balanced and with higher ability to read the enemy defence and always a solid shooting hand .
But ce est la vie !
pame gia to 8o tou xronou !
Kostas Sloukas kill Real momentum at 4 quorter 4"minits before the end - Panathinaikos well done champions 🎉🎉🎉fantastic game, fantastic atmosphere by Pao fans, best euroleague final game ever!!😊
King Ergin Ataman 👑
the greeks and turks together , the result is this ...lets stay friends forever ..
Fair analysis
Μan your narration about this game, the voice etc, its like watching an episode of how a ship sink.
thanks a lot, glad you liked it. and your comparison is great. it kinda felt like that since the beginning of the 2nd quarter!
hopefully he doesnt mind wisconsins weather
So I think I understood the game a bit differently. I believe Real lost due to there problem to adapt to a different game. I don't want to make it too long, but Real big guys where forced into several fouls, which Pao obviously took advantage of as much as they could under the basket, shown at the end with 3 guys being fouled out. Also lets not be unfair and say Pao where playing a dangerous game, at least to me. Pao was closing in there players as much as they could, behind the 3 point line, risking the 3 point shot from a team with the 3rd best shot in the league. They saw Real shots where not going in and Pao even switched at one point to Zone in the 3 quarter, if I'm not mistaken, which shows there obvious tactic, saying to there faces Shoot, that's all you're gonna get!! but you're gonna miss (by all means leaving someone open doesn't mean leaving them completely, but focusing your mind always on Tavares and the big guys as much as you can and the rebound). I think Real Coach was stupid for allowing his players to continue a bad psychological game with themselves, he should have changed it up, slowed it down, and adjusted the system to the big guys. Real barely missed under the basket and whatever the missed most of them where fouls. I give it to Ataman though he saw the issue with the Spaniards and hit the nail so hard they're ego felt it. I mean people who have played professionally know that you cant stop shooting even if its the right thing to do, EGO, that's where the coach comes in!!! Congrats PAO welcome back to the top!!!!!
Just before they started shooting and losing 3's, Pao players had deflected 3/4 attempts to play inside. In 2/4 instances they stole the pass towards Tavares. So afterwards they got scared (momentarily of course) to pass the ball inside and they started to shoot threes. Pao Players, and you are right, after the 2nd or the 3rd missed three from Real they gave them space to shoot while closing in on the inside. There you are absolutelly right, their coach should had intevene and should had calm them down, but I think he "religiously" beleived that the old legendary guard will deliver.
🥺🥺🥺 ☘
Engin Ataman 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
he is not the coach with the terrible tactics but he is definitely the best at highlighting the individual gifts of the players.
Giannis was impressed by Doc Rivers and we all know how that turned out
" I would like to play for you", είπε ο Γιάνναρος ο Αντετοκούνμπο, στον κόουτς Αταμάν...
Π α ρ ά τ α τα εκατομμύρια, τούς... πακτωλούς... χρημάτων, Γιάνναρε, και έλα εδώ, να σηκώσουμε
μαζί... π ο λ λ έ ς τέτοιες κούπες ! ! !
Στην ζωή, δεν είναι όλα... χρήμα, φίλε. 'Ελα εδώ, να χαρείς το μπάσκετ ! Είμαστε ΟΙΚΟΓΕΝΕΙΑ,
αδερφέ. 'Ελα ξανά πίσω στην χώρα που σε περίθαλψε και σε ανέδειξε.
Γύρνα πίσω στην α π λ ό τ η τ α, και το οικογενειακό α ν θ ρ ώ π ι ν ο κλίμα !
Γιάννη Αντετοκούνμπο, ο Παναθηναϊκός είναι Ε Δ Ω, και σε περιμένει ! ! !
10:26 period
I don't like these Lithuanians because they were unfair with most dominant Euroleague team while this team had hard time after Obradovic era. So for sure I'll not support them now that we are on top of the Euroleague.
BUT, I'm objective. Great analysis and amazing edit.
He’s a good coach but at the same time, they have great talent on their roster. Pao made good adjustments to be fair. But we will beat them with half their budget. Gate 7.
glad you are prepairing our eksoxiko 😁
Spending big money alone does not bring success. It is important to be the kind of coach who can make the club owners spend money on players the coach wants in the club. For instance, Sloukas would not join Pana if it was not for Ataman. Grant was also playing for Telekom in Turkey last year and Ataman knew his potential. It is also important that a coach can manage the star players with huge ago. Look at Milano and Barca who are big spenders. They were not even in F4.
Ergin Ataman: 3 Euroleague championships in 4 years
Mr.Bean: 2 Milko Super Cups (and left Sloukas open for transfers)
I don't see that hapenning any time soon
☘🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆☘
08:10 this girl is in love with Lessort 😂
Most terrible interpretation ever
Tryna recruit him to Milwaukee
👏👏👏👏👏
4th quarter was more like Sloukas vs Nunn
It's PANATHINAIKOS or P.A.O SHORTCUT
NO PANA
Pablo Laso wouldn't have let them keep shooting threes like that, sad
*P A N A T H I N A I K O S☘M U N I C H*
You gotta start posting these highlights 😢
Without the subs at the beginning all you hear is "GIANNI, GIANNI, GIANNI, GIANNI, GIANNI..." . Pοοr reporter couldn't get a profile pic. xD
Ps. VOODOO VOODOO VOODOO VOODOOOO ☘☘☘☘☘☘☘
How's Rytis doing? Recovered yet? What did the doctors say?
Ataman will be in nba sooner or later
Obradovic had 9 titles
I don't understand why he didn't go to nba
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv He had talks but things are different there, you can't be the same type of coach you are here. European coaches especially old school ones, were above the players and are used that what they saw is law, everyone should play strictly how they dictate etc, which is not how the NBA operates. Now Ataman is way more modern and his coaching style is very similar to what NBA coaches do(let your talented players dictate the offense, but inspire/convince them to play hard on defense), the only thing that would hold him back in my opinion is his antics on and off the court which wouldn't vibe with the NBA.
He said he would never play for PAO or olympiakos cause they rejected him when he was young, yet he would buy one if the teams 😂😂