He was a great player and his rookie season was purely electric. The people of Winnipeg became enamored by his incredible skill early on and were further impressed by modest personality even after lighting up the NHL his rookie season. He always had time for the fans and those who came to cheer him on. I doubt there will ever be a better rookie player in the NHL.
1992 was supposed to be all about Lindros "The Next One", finally entering the league after all the drama surrounding his draft. Ha, then "out of the blue", a Finn shows up and destroys the rookie record to take the spotlight away. Awesome! And yes, he feasted before goaltending got better, but if HE could step in and score 76 goals, why didn't the other established snipers notch more? The guy was magic.
Part of the reason he never scored 76 again was he hurt his knee in his 2nd season. He went from having 2 gears no one else did to merely being one of the fastest guys in the league. Part of it was improving goaltending. Part of it was hockey entering the dead puck clutch and grab era. Had he been 10 years older at his debut starying 1982 instead he would have finished with 800 goals.
Nobody else has scored 76 goals after him either. The game just changed. First it was clutch and grab and then slowly the goalies' gear got bigger and defences better..
@@nd8954 maybe postmodern era. For a long time I heard that the "modern era" began with the 1967 expansion. Before that, it was the introduction of the Zamboni Machine in the late 1940s. :P
@@eetuhakamaki2639 it is considered the modern era because after that the NHL goal scoring declined. The 92-93 season was the peak of goal scoring. So yea, Ovi with 52 is most certainly modern. It is not even close to the NHL how it was in 92-93.
Was a sad day when our Jets traded him to you guys, for 2 guys that ...just ...HECK Oleg Tverdosky ended up going BACK to your Ducks ... Just pissed me off. Winnipeg / Arizona backed the wrong guy. But then you guys would have gotten Keith Tckachuk....
@@SauliBo1 IMO, Kurri is a close second. And really, when your closest competition is your boyhood hero (I'm certain Kurri was that for Selanne), then you are in some pretty elite company.
I was at the game before he beat the record. He scored 4 goals that night. I got to go to the jets vs Canucks game 4 in the peg that spring it was my first white out. Such memories.
Just makes ya wonder ...if we would have gotten Khabibulin a lil earlier ..or even Teemu a lil earlier ..we could have jumped over that hump ..I mean ..Tckachuk /Zhamnov/Selanne ..HOW CRAZY was that line?!
I took him in the last round of my hockey pool that year. Hoping that no one knew who he was. I remember the stares I got from my friends as nobody had a clue. Thank you Selanne for that miracle year and helping me win that pool.
Selänne would had longer NHL career but because Ducks coach didn't like him his 2 last seasons weren't optimal and he didn't want to continue. He also said he could have continued 1-2 seasons if Ducks had more suitable coach.
Goal scoring in the 92-93 season was off the charts in general. Truth is there is no way he could duplicate those numbers. There were five, 60 goal scorers, with another two at 58. Two 70 goal scorers, with Lemieux at 69. We can adjust numbers because of the era, but the fact he was tied for the lead league as a rookie is mind-blowing at the NHL level. Teemu was not the only one to have their career year in that season. This season was the end of the goal scoring era.
Considering that he played a big chunck of his career during the dead puck and still out up the numbers he did is insane.Plus considering the fact that he played alot of his carert basically with one leg is insane.If he had played his whole career healthy,he could have put up 700-750 goals 1650-1750 points easily
Jesus saves but Selanne hits the Rebound! He's 76 goals Rookie Record will never ever gonna be broken!Too bad Teemu got issues with he's knee and that almoust end he's career in 2002 or 2003 if ill remember right.. Bcoz without that damn injury,Selanne would be for sure in +700 Goals Club,Hes total (684) goals,just like Ovie and other Legends!Here some He's Records -> Most points in Olympic Hockey History ( 24+19=42 points),Oldest player ever who scores 45 Goals in regular season,first +40 yrs old who does 5 points in 1 game and many other Records! So Yeah,Teemu"The Finnish"Flash Selanne really is a Legend and one of the Best players in Ice Hockey history!🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮👍👊💪🏆
He played through the entire dead puck era and by the time the clutch grab and trap were gone in 05 he was past his prime. That's why his numbers dropped after the early 90s
I remember watching this rookie season, in the old Winnipeg Arena, as it happened. I was 11 at the time, and my grandfather had season tickets to the Jets (we at approximatly the 25th row up from ice level, between center ice and one of the blue lines), and he took me (and sometimes my younger brother) to basically all games that weren't on a school night (Friday, Saturday and Sunday afternoons, plus a few during Christmas and Spring break). I'd been attending Jets games since I was ~8 years old, but nothing prepared me for what I witnessed that year. It was transcendent...the puck seemed to follow Selanne, and he had so much speed and the slickest of hands, a nightmare of goaltenders everywhere. I was in the building for at least one of those hat tricks, just before Christmas. I didn't realize at the time just how special it was, but since then, I've come to know that this is likely a unique occurrence, something that we will almost certainly never see again. Back then, the average skill level of an NHL skater was maybe 25% less than it is today, plus goaltenders were, on average, quite a bit closer to the average male build than they are today (there used to be plenty of goalies under 6 feet in height...now, there are almost none). And thus, a guy like Selanne, who had all the talent, and who worked REALLY hard, could capitalize on the inefficiencies of the way the game was played to score so many goals. Nowadays, I think a 22-year-old Selanne would still be a Calder nominee, but I think he'd max out at about 80-90 points. To put it another way, if Ovechkin had been a rookie in 1992-93, he'd have put up 80 goals and 150 points. And if Ovi had played in the early '80s, the Great One would've had some competition for that moniker. So Selanne may have set records for rookie goals and points...but that doesn't necessarily mean that he is the greatest rookie. He's in the top 10 for sure...but considering how much the game has evolved over 100+ years (just to hammer this point home, curved sticks weren't even a common feature until the 1960s...and until 1956, a minor penalty lasted 2 full minutes, regardless of whether the team on the powerplay scored any goals), it's pretty hard to say who is the absolute best. Personally, I think that the history of ice hockey can be divided into at least 4 distinct eras [(1) Pre-original six, 2) Original six, 3) Expansion era, 4) Cap era...and honestly, there is so little in common between the early expansion era and the late expansion era that it might be possible to divide that into 2], each of which is like its own separate sport. The commonalities between the pre-original six era and the current day are basically: ice (made differently), skates (totally different though), a puck (that's the same basically) and sticks (made of different materials with different properties). And there are some rules that persist. Other than that, the game is ridiculously different now.
Thanks for Sharing / Kiitos ! I ALLWAYS wanted to find out - How People at Winnipeg saw & experienced all This ? Is There any Winnipeg HOCKEY Hall of Fame ? I have seen The TEEMU MOVIE & ROOKIE SEASON NHL VIDEO ! Have You seen The TEEMU MOVIE ? - His last years of Career !
The arrival of Pavel Bure in the NHL was also a turning point. In his 2nd year, the famous 92-93 season, Bure himself posted 110 points. What you say is not a "bad subjective opinion" like someone else commented, you're absolutely true that in the beginning of the 90's, fast europeans players like Mogilny, Bure and Selanne were taking the NHL by storm and showing them the game could be played very differently. What happened after that is that the 95 Stanley Cup champions, the Devils imposed their very defensive style to the whole league... the goalies did not suddenly become extraordinnary good, Hasek, Roy and Brodeur had the whole system around them changing in favor of them. 92-93 was one of the highest scoring year in NHL history.
Only thing us Jets fans WISH we could have gotten? We got to see at the Heritage Classic game in Winnipeg. Teemu Selanne PLAYING with Dale Hawerchuk AND BEATING Wayne Gretzky and his Edmonton Oilers Alumni. AND Teemu Selanne WINNING the game for the Jets as well.
It's tragic how Selänne never won a world championship or the olympics with the Finnish national team, thank god he eventually got the Stanley Cup, he deserved it and it certainly didn't come easy. Next one about Saku Koivu?
I have a signed Upperdeck Teemu Selanne rookie card - took six months to come back from Winnipeg to Australia. Glad I was just being silly at the time for kicks. Posted it on Facebook marketplace and some drongo offered me less than a $100 for it. No mate was the answer.
You could have mentionned his "dynamic duo" with Paul Kariya, one of the two best lines of the NHL during six seasons with Avalanche's Sakic/Forsberg... and historically one of the most memorables.
That season was Great ! Buffalo was on Fire with Mogilny & Winnipeg with Rookie Selanne ! Both scored 76 Goals ! When is The Last time - two Top NHL Scoreres has that many - 76 GOALS !
Good video but its incredible to me that you can talk 11 minutes about Teemu and his incredible 92-93 season without even a mention of Phil Housley!! They only played together for that single season and Phil racked up 79 assists to Teemu's 76 goals. The chemistry was outstanding and neither were able to replicate the incredible points totals after Phil went to St. Louis for 93-94. Phil gets at least 50% of the credit for Teemu's record in my opinion... never mind not be mentioned at all when the legendary story in told.
Phil housley is the most underrated d-man in the history of the nhl,i mean atleast offensive d-man,the most underrated dman ever is clearly nick lidström who is easily the greatest all-round d-man
Look, I love Selanne - without question he was worthy of being a first ballot HOF'er, and not to take away how utterly fantastic his "rookie season" was- it really wasn't his "rookie season"... Selanne was 22 at the time and that was his 5th season of professional hockey. I mean he was an international superstar at that point and that was the season Mogilny scored 76 goals as well, so it's not exactly like he was blowing the competition away - that was a pretty wild season... So yea it certainly was a season to remember without a doubt - a few things really needed to pointed out for context... I mean Gretzky scored 92 goals when he was Selanne's age, and I believe Mario put up 80-something at 22 so yea, he was technically a "rookie" but in reality he wasn't.... Believe me I would have loved to see an 18-year-old walk into the league and put up 76 goals but I don't think that will ever happen, and honestly Selanne shouldn't have been eligible for the Calder given the fact that technically that was his 5th season in professional hockey - and yes I consider top tier European leagues professional hockey, it may not be the NHL or AHL - it's still professional hockey regardless... Look if you're representing your country in the Canada Cup or Olympics then you're a professional.
@@dorientjewoller113 My point is that there's a difference between an 18-year old and a 22-year old... How many goals did Gretzky score at 22?? oh right..Point being Selanne was only technically a rookie - much like Makarov was technically a rookie at 31 years of age when he won the Calder in 1990 or when Panarin won it at 23 in 2015.. Just because a player's a "rookie" doesn't mean he's new to pro hockey, it just means he's new to the NHL.
@odd man Rush - 1995-96 Selanne had 40 goals 108 points. You omitted that when stating Selanne only had 2 40 goal seasons and 2 100 point seasons after 1992-93
Winnipeg was AWAKE - When They DRAFTED SELANNE ? Many Swedes & Finns - already at WHA TIME ! Ketola & Riihiranta both played at JETS & WHA ! They said That There was a PARADE after Winning & Seasons were over !
Probably a brain fart... Selänne is the second Finnish player to be inducted into the HHOF, but not the second Finn. EDIT: I stand corrected. Had to go check this shit out. Selänne is the second Finn in HHOF and there's only 2 Finns in HHOF. The mistake in the video was that the image shown wasn't HHOF, But IIHF Hall of Fame, which has a lot of Finns.
There was a mistake here: "would go on to have 2 more 100-point seasons"....: actually he would have 3 more: 1995-96 he had 108 points, 96-97 109 points, and 98-99 107 points. Nice video, though. Brings back memories. I started elementary school the same fall when Teemu started his NHL career.
While you're talking about records, you should try doing one about the single game point record in the NHL, set by Darryl Sittler in 1976. I say the NHL because another player had scored the same amount of points in a WHA game a couple of years prior.
TEEMU was The talk of ALL HELSINKI & Finland ! Many said That He was too soft - but He went to see some NHL Games before coming over with His Sticks ! He even took Boxing Lessons in Finland to play with players like TIE DOMI !
Well finish rookies usually has played men’s league for couple of years before getting drafted when for example Hughes has never played with men before the 2019 World cup
His numbers might have been down instead... in Winnipeg he became the driving force and didn't really split numbers with other big stars, though he had Phil Housley playing with him, in fact he probably helped Housley to get his best scoring year in the NHL.
As a Ranger fan, I wish we had traded for him in the 2009 offseason, instead of signing Marian Gaborik. Had we traded Nikolai Zherdev to Anaheim for Selanne, we would’ve traded for Dustin Penner in the 2011 offseason and Devin Setoguchi, as well and signed Gaborik then and still signed Brad Richards and Selanne would’ve reached the 52 plateau at the age of 41, surpassing Gordie Howe as the oldest player to be effective at such an age. We would’ve also kept Alex Frolov and we would’ve ended the 2011-12 season with 71 wins and 142 points and we would’ve swept Ottawa, taken out Washington in 5 games and taken out New Jersey and Los Angeles, both in 7 games and Henrik Lundqvist wins the Conn Smythe trophy. John Tortorella would’ve won the Jack Adams Award, while Lundqvist wins not only the Vezina Trophy, but the Hart and William Jennings Trophies, as well.
japantuning88 Until Selanne decided to re-sign in Anaheim in late June of 2009, he was either a free agent or a trade chip & the Rangers were in the running to get him in that 09 offseason. They mentioned Dany Heatley of Ottawa, Marian Gaborik of Minnesota, Marian Hossa of Detroit, Martin St. Louis of Tampa Bay, his then-teammate Vincent Lecavalier, Ilya Kovalchuk of Atlanta, Phil Kessel of Boston & the Sedin twins (Daniel & Henrik) of Vancouver. We were in the running to get all of them that offseason, but we were also in the running to get Selanne from Anaheim. They mentioned for us everyone on this list, except for Selanne. However, with Selanne included on this list of big name players in the 09 offseason, whether trade chip or free agent, we could only get 1 of these players, whether it was Selanne or 1 of these other players that I just mentioned. Not to mention, in early April of 2013, instead of getting traded again, Selanne retires & we still trade for Derrick Brassard, Derek Dorsett & John Moore.
@@jasonarokiaraj9817 Selänne was gonna re-sign with the Ducks or retire. I would like to think that somebody should know that throwing money at players doesn't win championships, teams do.
japantuning88 He considered the Rangers, too. He just might or might not admit it. He knew that like Randy Carlyle, John Tortorella preached discipline & accountability with a “safe is death” offensive system.
japantuning88 What do you mean “Throwing money at players doesn’t win championships, teams do”? I’m just curious. I’m just saying he would’ve recruited some players to play for us.
@@kenzieshannon5741 You can tell when a player is a dirty rat, thank goodness Evander Kane dropped him with a one punch knockout whilst with the Trashers.
@@Redditaurus Then you could say he was leagues leading goal scorer 3 times and tied for the lead 1 time. In total finishing at the top of the table 4 times.
Very impressive but stop saying he is the greatest Rookie ever. Wayne Gretzky had 137 points as an 18 year old on a first year expansion team. Selanne was 22 when he entered the league after playing Professional hockey in Finland for 5 years. By the time Gretzky was 22 he was scoring over 200 points a season.
Arthur Franco at that time the NHL ruled that because he had already played in the WHA he was not a rookie. This was changed later and several players who had played professional were awarded the Calder based on their first year of NHL play.
One of the true greats of the game. With that 76 goal rookie season, it makes you wonder why he took the next 21 years getting his next 606 goals (better goaltending, coaching dickturds with their "defence uber alles" mentality...) Mind you, those Jokerit jerseys are totally unforgivable.
A fantastic Ambassador to the whole world of Ice Hockey, Not just in Finland but the World. Simply put he is a living legend. Spending time with three teams throughout and half of the with the Mighty Ducks he is and will always be remembered. Once a Duck always a Duck ^_^ and what topped it off? He was able to win the Stanley Cup with Jean Sebastian Giguere before he too retired from Hockey :)
Teemu was a great player, and no doubt had an incredible rookie season, but the greatest NHL rookie won the Conn Smythe trophy before winning the Calder Cup as rookie of the year. That player was Ken Dryden.
It is not considered a rookie season, because the Oilers moved from the WHA to the NHL. The whole team would be rookies following this logic, even their 37 yo goalie Dave Dryden!
Technically speaking, Gretzky is the player who had the most pts in his 1st NHL season. He got disqualified from being a rookie because he had played a full year with the Oilers in the WHA.
i hate how all the scoring records were set like 30+ years ago when the goalies were garbage and the superstars would score some exorbitant amount of goals/points that will never be beat. Just watch highlights from games before 1995, the goalies just flop around smh.
I hate how people forget how good Grant Fuhr Patrick Roy, Ed Belfour, Curtis Joesph really were .. if it was that easy everyone would have scored 50 back then..
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He was a great player and his rookie season was purely electric. The people of Winnipeg became enamored by his incredible skill early on and were further impressed by modest personality even after lighting up the NHL his rookie season. He always had time for the fans and those who came to cheer him on. I doubt there will ever be a better rookie player in the NHL.
We in Winnipeg , STILL are enamored by him.
He's ROYALTY here. Him and his family.
Great memories! Winnipeg is always happy place for me.
With Finnish players, you should really do a video of Saku Koivu. One of the greatest in leadership in the NHL.
Yes! He won Clancy and Masterson Trophies, World Championship and also beat cancer. Real warrior.
or what about Teemu Rantanen
@@AatiNiiranen you mean Mikko Rantanen?
yes I meant Mikko rantanen
Dont forget his brother Miko
Im canadian and he is by far my favorite player of all time.
He and Dale Hawerchuk both 1/1A with me too.
Teemu is just a legend.
I was in grade 7 when he was scoring all those goals! As a Winnipegger he was one of my favourite hockey players growing up..
Also 6-time olympian with most goals scored all time.
He actually doesnt have most goals, but most points
1992 was supposed to be all about Lindros "The Next One", finally entering the league after all the drama surrounding his draft. Ha, then "out of the blue", a Finn shows up and destroys the rookie record to take the spotlight away. Awesome! And yes, he feasted before goaltending got better, but if HE could step in and score 76 goals, why didn't the other established snipers notch more? The guy was magic.
Part of the reason he never scored 76 again was he hurt his knee in his 2nd season. He went from having 2 gears no one else did to merely being one of the fastest guys in the league.
Part of it was improving goaltending.
Part of it was hockey entering the dead puck clutch and grab era.
Had he been 10 years older at his debut starying 1982 instead he would have finished with 800 goals.
I was unstoppable on the ice, but then I took a knife to the knee.
Despite all of this, in era adjusted numbers he is 5th all time in goals. In era adjusted he has 741 goals, only 17 goals behind Gretzky.
@@miro5600 How many behind Lemieux since he scored more in 500 less games
Nobody else has scored 76 goals after him either. The game just changed. First it was clutch and grab and then slowly the goalies' gear got bigger and defences better..
@@johnj8069 wasn't clutch and grab as much as the neutral zone trap and parity that developed after the bargaining agreement.
Great ambassador for the game. Real guy, real player
Ovi with 52 in his Rookie year in the modern era is just incredible
i wouldn't call it modern era since it was 15 years ago but still amazing tho
Eetu Hakamäki modern era started after lockout season.
@@nd8954 maybe postmodern era. For a long time I heard that the "modern era" began with the 1967 expansion. Before that, it was the introduction of the Zamboni Machine in the late 1940s. :P
Just call it the start of the salary cap era... basically the time period you guys are talking about
@@eetuhakamaki2639 it is considered the modern era because after that the NHL goal scoring declined. The 92-93 season was the peak of goal scoring. So yea, Ovi with 52 is most certainly modern. It is not even close to the NHL how it was in 92-93.
My all time favourite player for my Ducks, I grew up as kid calling him “salami” 😂 then later on when I had a son of mine he did the same 😂
Was a sad day when our Jets traded him to you guys, for 2 guys that ...just ...HECK Oleg Tverdosky ended up going BACK to your Ducks ...
Just pissed me off. Winnipeg / Arizona backed the wrong guy. But then you guys would have gotten Keith Tckachuk....
The most incredible rookie year ever and one of the best, most consistent players of all time. I've always had a huge amount of respect for Selanne
Teemu was always one of my favorite players growing up. I didn't see him on the Jets but on Ducks, even though I always hated the Ducks I loved him
He never equaled the numbers from that rookie season, but he's still a legend. Absolutely the greatest Finnish player, ever.
Jari Kurri? Or Puljujärvi
@@SauliBo1 Puljujärvi??? Guy who barely even gets to NHL team, playing most games in AHL. Laine and Barkov are far far better than pulju
veikkv läppä vaan veli XD luulin et oli selvää
Esa Tikkanen.
@@SauliBo1 IMO, Kurri is a close second. And really, when your closest competition is your boyhood hero (I'm certain Kurri was that for Selanne), then you are in some pretty elite company.
I was at the game before he beat the record. He scored 4 goals that night. I got to go to the jets vs Canucks game 4 in the peg that spring it was my first white out. Such memories.
Just makes ya wonder ...if we would have gotten Khabibulin a lil earlier ..or even Teemu a lil earlier ..we could have jumped over that hump ..I mean ..Tckachuk /Zhamnov/Selanne ..HOW CRAZY was that line?!
I took him in the last round of my hockey pool that year. Hoping that no one knew who he was. I remember the stares I got from my friends as nobody had a clue. Thank you Selanne for that miracle year and helping me win that pool.
The way he played after the lockout was fantastic. Many thought he was over at that point.
Young Mike Bossy look a like Andy Mccoy in hes early years.Twins.
Teemu... the idol of TSN Bardown's Jesse Pollock.
Aric Cua jesse really loves the jets
Only rivalled by Jeff Beukeboom
My idol aswell
I mean ..the episode where he sits right down next to Jesse and Jesse freaks out when he sees him?! Priceless
You forgot to mention he was the tournament MVP in Sochi olympics.
Teemu Selanne is a pure top athlete in every sport, without injuries he would have scored much more.
Selänne would had longer NHL career but because Ducks coach didn't like him his 2 last seasons weren't optimal and he didn't want to continue. He also said he could have continued 1-2 seasons if Ducks had more suitable coach.
Right that faker bördoo.
NHL is bit inbred league that favours North American and Canadian players/coaches
@@rosvokomppania BS to that
The original great 8.
Goal scoring in the 92-93 season was off the charts in general. Truth is there is no way he could duplicate those numbers. There were five, 60 goal scorers, with another two at 58. Two 70 goal scorers, with Lemieux at 69. We can adjust numbers because of the era, but the fact he was tied for the lead league as a rookie is mind-blowing at the NHL level. Teemu was not the only one to have their career year in that season. This season was the end of the goal scoring era.
Only record in any sport that never ever will be broken
Quite good unintentional Terry Jones impression.
What's amazing is mario lemieux played in 60 games. 24 less than most ppl playing an 84 game season at the time and scored 69 goals and 160 points
Considering that he played a big chunck of his career during the dead puck and still out up the numbers he did is insane.Plus considering the fact that he played alot of his carert basically with one leg is insane.If he had played his whole career healthy,he could have put up 700-750 goals 1650-1750 points easily
Jesus saves but Selanne hits the Rebound! He's 76 goals Rookie Record will never ever gonna be broken!Too bad Teemu got issues with he's knee and that almoust end he's career in 2002 or 2003 if ill remember right.. Bcoz without that damn injury,Selanne would be for sure in +700 Goals Club,Hes total (684) goals,just like Ovie and other Legends!Here some He's Records -> Most points in Olympic Hockey History ( 24+19=42 points),Oldest player ever who scores 45 Goals in regular season,first +40 yrs old who does 5 points in 1 game and many other Records! So Yeah,Teemu"The Finnish"Flash Selanne really is a Legend and one of the Best players in Ice Hockey history!🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮👍👊💪🏆
You know you're Finnish when your insides tingle while watching this video. (or any Selänne video)
That's probably just corona though.
He played through the entire dead puck era and by the time the clutch grab and trap were gone in 05 he was past his prime. That's why his numbers dropped after the early 90s
I remember watching this rookie season, in the old Winnipeg Arena, as it happened. I was 11 at the time, and my grandfather had season tickets to the Jets (we at approximatly the 25th row up from ice level, between center ice and one of the blue lines), and he took me (and sometimes my younger brother) to basically all games that weren't on a school night (Friday, Saturday and Sunday afternoons, plus a few during Christmas and Spring break). I'd been attending Jets games since I was ~8 years old, but nothing prepared me for what I witnessed that year. It was transcendent...the puck seemed to follow Selanne, and he had so much speed and the slickest of hands, a nightmare of goaltenders everywhere. I was in the building for at least one of those hat tricks, just before Christmas. I didn't realize at the time just how special it was, but since then, I've come to know that this is likely a unique occurrence, something that we will almost certainly never see again. Back then, the average skill level of an NHL skater was maybe 25% less than it is today, plus goaltenders were, on average, quite a bit closer to the average male build than they are today (there used to be plenty of goalies under 6 feet in height...now, there are almost none). And thus, a guy like Selanne, who had all the talent, and who worked REALLY hard, could capitalize on the inefficiencies of the way the game was played to score so many goals. Nowadays, I think a 22-year-old Selanne would still be a Calder nominee, but I think he'd max out at about 80-90 points. To put it another way, if Ovechkin had been a rookie in 1992-93, he'd have put up 80 goals and 150 points. And if Ovi had played in the early '80s, the Great One would've had some competition for that moniker.
So Selanne may have set records for rookie goals and points...but that doesn't necessarily mean that he is the greatest rookie. He's in the top 10 for sure...but considering how much the game has evolved over 100+ years (just to hammer this point home, curved sticks weren't even a common feature until the 1960s...and until 1956, a minor penalty lasted 2 full minutes, regardless of whether the team on the powerplay scored any goals), it's pretty hard to say who is the absolute best. Personally, I think that the history of ice hockey can be divided into at least 4 distinct eras [(1) Pre-original six, 2) Original six, 3) Expansion era, 4) Cap era...and honestly, there is so little in common between the early expansion era and the late expansion era that it might be possible to divide that into 2], each of which is like its own separate sport. The commonalities between the pre-original six era and the current day are basically: ice (made differently), skates (totally different though), a puck (that's the same basically) and sticks (made of different materials with different properties). And there are some rules that persist. Other than that, the game is ridiculously different now.
Badly formatted paragraphs and that ovie comparison is just really Bad subjective opinion..
Thanks for Sharing / Kiitos ! I ALLWAYS wanted to find out - How People at Winnipeg saw & experienced all This ? Is There any Winnipeg HOCKEY Hall of Fame ? I have seen The TEEMU MOVIE & ROOKIE SEASON NHL VIDEO ! Have You seen The TEEMU MOVIE ? - His last years of Career !
The arrival of Pavel Bure in the NHL was also a turning point. In his 2nd year, the famous 92-93 season, Bure himself posted 110 points. What you say is not a "bad subjective opinion" like someone else commented, you're absolutely true that in the beginning of the 90's, fast europeans players like Mogilny, Bure and Selanne were taking the NHL by storm and showing them the game could be played very differently.
What happened after that is that the 95 Stanley Cup champions, the Devils imposed their very defensive style to the whole league... the goalies did not suddenly become extraordinnary good, Hasek, Roy and Brodeur had the whole system around them changing in favor of them.
92-93 was one of the highest scoring year in NHL history.
Only thing us Jets fans WISH we could have gotten?
We got to see at the Heritage Classic game in Winnipeg.
Teemu Selanne PLAYING with Dale Hawerchuk AND BEATING Wayne Gretzky and his Edmonton Oilers Alumni.
AND Teemu Selanne WINNING the game for the Jets as well.
A Saku Koivu career video would be awsome
Nostalgia at its best!
It's tragic how Selänne never won a world championship or the olympics with the Finnish national team, thank god he eventually got the Stanley Cup, he deserved it and it certainly didn't come easy. Next one about Saku Koivu?
I have a signed Upperdeck Teemu Selanne rookie card - took six months to come back from Winnipeg to Australia. Glad I was just being silly at the time for kicks. Posted it on Facebook marketplace and some drongo offered me less than a $100 for it. No mate was the answer.
Didn't mention his NHL hall of fame induction in 2017
You could have mentionned his "dynamic duo" with Paul Kariya, one of the two best lines of the NHL during six seasons with Avalanche's Sakic/Forsberg... and historically one of the most memorables.
Alexander Mogilny was right there with em too
That season was Great ! Buffalo was on Fire with Mogilny & Winnipeg with Rookie Selanne ! Both scored 76 Goals ! When is The Last time - two Top NHL Scoreres has that many - 76 GOALS !
Titan hockey sticks were great
2020 Sticks already Then ? Ahead of The Time & Season 2020 !
Good video but its incredible to me that you can talk 11 minutes about Teemu and his incredible 92-93 season without even a mention of Phil Housley!! They only played together for that single season and Phil racked up 79 assists to Teemu's 76 goals. The chemistry was outstanding and neither were able to replicate the incredible points totals after Phil went to St. Louis for 93-94. Phil gets at least 50% of the credit for Teemu's record in my opinion... never mind not be mentioned at all when the legendary story in told.
Phil housley is the most underrated d-man in the history of the nhl,i mean atleast offensive d-man,the most underrated dman ever is clearly nick lidström who is easily the greatest all-round d-man
How old was salenee when he came to the nhl
He was also deadly in EA Sports 94 Hockey.
The old school jets logo was lit
Look, I love Selanne - without question he was worthy of being a first ballot HOF'er, and not to take away how utterly fantastic his "rookie season" was- it really wasn't his "rookie season"... Selanne was 22 at the time and that was his 5th season of professional hockey. I mean he was an international superstar at that point and that was the season Mogilny scored 76 goals as well, so it's not exactly like he was blowing the competition away - that was a pretty wild season... So yea it certainly was a season to remember without a doubt - a few things really needed to pointed out for context... I mean Gretzky scored 92 goals when he was Selanne's age, and I believe Mario put up 80-something at 22 so yea, he was technically a "rookie" but in reality he wasn't.... Believe me I would have loved to see an 18-year-old walk into the league and put up 76 goals but I don't think that will ever happen, and honestly Selanne shouldn't have been eligible for the Calder given the fact that technically that was his 5th season in professional hockey - and yes I consider top tier European leagues professional hockey, it may not be the NHL or AHL - it's still professional hockey regardless... Look if you're representing your country in the Canada Cup or Olympics then you're a professional.
First season in NHL=Rookie season
So, why was the record of most goals scored by a rookie still on the name of Mike Bossy and not on Wayne Gretzky or Mario Lemieux?
@@dorientjewoller113 My point is that there's a difference between an 18-year old and a 22-year old... How many goals did Gretzky score at 22?? oh right..Point being Selanne was only technically a rookie - much like Makarov was technically a rookie at 31 years of age when he won the Calder in 1990 or when Panarin won it at 23 in 2015.. Just because a player's a "rookie" doesn't mean he's new to pro hockey, it just means he's new to the NHL.
@odd man Rush - 1995-96 Selanne had 40 goals 108 points. You omitted that when stating Selanne only had 2 40 goal seasons and 2 100 point seasons after 1992-93
The craziest thing about this season is that the top four goal scorers for the Jets were all rookies.
He was drafted 10th overall in 1988. Darrin Shannon , Daniel Dore and Scott Pearson were all drafted ahead of him lol!!!
Winnipeg was AWAKE - When They DRAFTED SELANNE ? Many Swedes & Finns - already at WHA TIME ! Ketola & Riihiranta both played at JETS & WHA ! They said That There was a PARADE after Winning & Seasons were over !
The greatest Finn, and perhaps one of the greatest European players.
Selänne and jagr
Second finn after Kurri to be inducted to the IIHF Hall of Fame? I mean there are Lasse Oksanen and Juhani Wahlsten right there in your image.
Probably a brain fart... Selänne is the second Finnish player to be inducted into the HHOF, but not the second Finn.
EDIT: I stand corrected. Had to go check this shit out. Selänne is the second Finn in HHOF and there's only 2 Finns in HHOF. The mistake in the video was that the image shown wasn't HHOF, But IIHF Hall of Fame, which has a lot of Finns.
It’s simple, I see a jets logo, I click
There was a mistake here: "would go on to have 2 more 100-point seasons"....: actually he would have 3 more: 1995-96 he had 108 points, 96-97 109 points, and 98-99 107 points.
Nice video, though. Brings back memories. I started elementary school the same fall when Teemu started his NHL career.
I remember being a little kid in the mid 90s and I had his rookie card thinking I was gonna be rich some day😳😂🤣🙄
I love that salad bowl helmet.
While you're talking about records, you should try doing one about the single game point record in the NHL, set by Darryl Sittler in 1976. I say the NHL because another player had scored the same amount of points in a WHA game a couple of years prior.
i love Helsinki Jokerit
I saw many a teemu rookie goal in person
TEEMU was The talk of ALL HELSINKI & Finland ! Many said That He was too soft - but He went to see some NHL Games before coming over with His Sticks ! He even took Boxing Lessons in Finland to play with players like TIE DOMI !
Well finish rookies usually has played men’s league for couple of years before getting drafted when for example Hughes has never played with men before the 2019 World cup
Doesn't always matter, for example Kakko, who had played against men before, isn't playing as well as Hughes is.
Honestly I’m a Winnipeg fan, but if he played with a team like Pittsburgh and with Lemieux his numbers would’ve been better
His numbers might have been down instead... in Winnipeg he became the driving force and didn't really split numbers with other big stars, though he had Phil Housley playing with him, in fact he probably helped Housley to get his best scoring year in the NHL.
I love Tiimu Silannii
As a Ranger fan, I wish we had traded for him in the 2009 offseason, instead of signing Marian Gaborik. Had we traded Nikolai Zherdev to Anaheim for Selanne, we would’ve traded for Dustin Penner in the 2011 offseason and Devin Setoguchi, as well and signed Gaborik then and still signed Brad Richards and Selanne would’ve reached the 52 plateau at the age of 41, surpassing Gordie Howe as the oldest player to be effective at such an age. We would’ve also kept Alex Frolov and we would’ve ended the 2011-12 season with 71 wins and 142 points and we would’ve swept Ottawa, taken out Washington in 5 games and taken out New Jersey and Los Angeles, both in 7 games and Henrik Lundqvist wins the Conn Smythe trophy. John Tortorella would’ve won the Jack Adams Award, while Lundqvist wins not only the Vezina Trophy, but the Hart and William Jennings Trophies, as well.
Keep dreaming and waiting for 2048.
japantuning88 Until Selanne decided to re-sign in Anaheim in late June of 2009, he was either a free agent or a trade chip & the Rangers were in the running to get him in that 09 offseason. They mentioned Dany Heatley of Ottawa, Marian Gaborik of Minnesota, Marian Hossa of Detroit, Martin St. Louis of Tampa Bay, his then-teammate Vincent Lecavalier, Ilya Kovalchuk of Atlanta, Phil Kessel of Boston & the Sedin twins (Daniel & Henrik) of Vancouver. We were in the running to get all of them that offseason, but we were also in the running to get Selanne from Anaheim. They mentioned for us everyone on this list, except for Selanne. However, with Selanne included on this list of big name players in the 09 offseason, whether trade chip or free agent, we could only get 1 of these players, whether it was Selanne or 1 of these other players that I just mentioned. Not to mention, in early April of 2013, instead of getting traded again, Selanne retires & we still trade for Derrick Brassard, Derek Dorsett & John Moore.
@@jasonarokiaraj9817 Selänne was gonna re-sign with the Ducks or retire. I would like to think that somebody should know that throwing money at players doesn't win championships, teams do.
japantuning88 He considered the Rangers, too. He just might or might not admit it. He knew that like Randy Carlyle, John Tortorella preached discipline & accountability with a “safe is death” offensive system.
japantuning88 What do you mean “Throwing money at players doesn’t win championships, teams do”? I’m just curious. I’m just saying he would’ve recruited some players to play for us.
Can you please do what ever happened to Marc Savard
Great suggestion
Matt Cooke happened.
japantuning88 and to think some people think Marchand is the worst player in the nhl. When Matt Cooke’s whole goal was to hurt player
@@kenzieshannon5741 You can tell when a player is a dirty rat, thank goodness Evander Kane dropped him with a one punch knockout whilst with the Trashers.
Teemu perkele!
It’s funny how he said selänne sound like salami
I'm the greatest nhl rookie.i scored over 100 goals in 10 games NHL 18 Ps4 game
And some experience it differently.
Didn't Teemu win 3 Maurice trophies? 92-93, 97-98, 98-99
The rocket richard was introduced in early 2000s. As a matter of fact gretzky has 0
@@Redditaurus Then you could say he was leagues leading goal scorer 3 times and tied for the lead 1 time. In total finishing at the top of the table 4 times.
Howcome It is named after Him and Not His HENRI BROTHER ? 11 Times Stanley Cup Winner !
@@holoholopainen1627 Learn the history of the game and then we talk.
@@japantuning88 I Got it ! They were both HENRI ! Thanks / Merci
You forget international games and points from this video
i'm so proud to be finnish
today he looks like he could be aho's father
His name is Teemu Selänne not Tiimu Selaani...
Taymoo!
Whatever happened to joe Malone
Very impressive but stop saying he is the greatest Rookie ever. Wayne Gretzky had 137 points as an 18 year old on a first year expansion team. Selanne was 22 when he entered the league after playing Professional hockey in Finland for 5 years. By the time Gretzky was 22 he was scoring over 200 points a season.
Did Gretzky win the Calder? Why not?
Arthur Franco at that time the NHL ruled that because he had already played in the WHA he was not a rookie. This was changed later and several players who had played professional were awarded the Calder based on their first year of NHL play.
Arthur Franco travesty, then Mogilney won it. No justice.
8:54 OJ with -132 in the plus minus 😅
That Cant be Right ?
you sound british, im surprised british people know what ice hockey is :D
#badass
hes not salami
#rip2020season
"just 50 goals in two seasons"
Torilla tavataan
Ovechkin was pretty good
Yawn...
You know your channel would be better if you showed action shots cause we are all aware of the stats
One of the true greats of the game. With that 76 goal rookie season, it makes you wonder why he took the next 21 years getting his next 606 goals (better goaltending, coaching dickturds with their "defence uber alles" mentality...)
Mind you, those Jokerit jerseys are totally unforgivable.
Did he not mention Paul Kariya?
Why should he? He wasnt part of Selänne`s rookie season.
A fantastic Ambassador to the whole world of Ice Hockey, Not just in Finland but the World. Simply put he is a living legend. Spending time with three teams throughout and half of the with the Mighty Ducks he is and will always be remembered. Once a Duck always a Duck ^_^ and what topped it off? He was able to win the Stanley Cup with Jean Sebastian Giguere before he too retired from Hockey :)
David Harrison he actually played on 4 NHL teams. Winnipeg, Anaheim, San Jose and Colorado
@@jimmcdiarmid7308 I knew that. I just remember him being a duck not taking away what he did with his other teams :)
Teemu was a great player, and no doubt had an incredible rookie season, but the greatest NHL rookie won the Conn Smythe trophy before winning the Calder Cup as rookie of the year. That player was Ken Dryden.
Where is my Be A Pro?
Gretzky 137 point rookie season
It is not considered a rookie season, because the Oilers moved from the WHA to the NHL. The whole team would be rookies following this logic, even their 37 yo goalie Dave Dryden!
Teemu salami
Suomi Finland perkele
Now's the perfect time for: Whatever happened to ......
The NHL!
And the damn toilet paper!
Technically speaking, Gretzky is the player who had the most pts in his 1st NHL season. He got disqualified from being a rookie because he had played a full year with the Oilers in the WHA.
tiiiimu salamy 😂
Selänne! He aint selanne
Then yakupov comes and is the single most greatest player of all time in the NHL
You Nailed it
i hate how all the scoring records were set like 30+ years ago when the goalies were garbage and the superstars would score some exorbitant amount of goals/points that will never be beat. Just watch highlights from games before 1995, the goalies just flop around smh.
Not all the goalies in the 80's and 90's were garbage, lots of good ones too.
I hate how people forget how good Grant Fuhr Patrick Roy, Ed Belfour, Curtis Joesph really were .. if it was that easy everyone would have scored 50 back then..
This guys voice is too annoying to watch this video...
Tell me about it...
He is just Too Good !