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Our Road is GONE (major mudslide)
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
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Tyler is the perfect addition of the team, he's calm, funny and has another big smile! Have fun guys!!! :)
Just me or when they said "just don't get the excavator stuck", I was expecting the next cut scene to go to the excavator being stuck? lol
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I was expecting the same 🤣
Keep up the good work guys, y'all are killing it!
Was absolutely expecting the next words to be " two minutes later..."
I was right there with you, 😅.
ok. So we are building an MSE (Mechanically Stabilized Earth) Wall along a roadway starting next week. And we've done a few retaining walls over the years, and I did designs during school for them. My thoughts are this. The way this is built, you basically could have sloped it off and put the french drain at the bottom, it would be almost as effective. Because the blocks are just sitting on the ground (which isn't very good as you show!), they really can't do anything to stop rotation or movement of the slope, other than what their shear weight can handle. What you've done will do a fantastic job of draining water that gets to the wall. However, the soil above it can still get saturated and liquify if too much water comes through. If that happens the grass really can't do much to stop the underlying material from moving.
That wall will move closer to the road every year, there isn't even a question about it. But how fast or severe it will be we will see i guess. He could at least dig some holes and anchor it tho. Their solar farm is also not secured, it might stay there 30 years but one strong storm with heavy rains and it will slide down the hill..
Yeah. I'm not even an engineer and I don't really understand how this changes the problem. A "retaining" wall would need to be a bit higher, and even retaining walls move over time, just more slowly, without reinforcement. I feel like the next time this happens, the mud will just move right over top of all of this. The "hydraulic pressure" as he is calling it isn't the real problem, it's the mud, and this won't/can't stop that with just a one-layer "wall". He thinks this helps drain the water, and sure, it will, but the real problem is the water/mud further back being too heavy to stay up and this wall doesn't solve that problem.
I reckon he should have put a couple of runs of Agi pipe to help direct the water down hill under the rock, then dug under the road and let out down hill the other side..?
The french drain I put in at home has never moved as the water has a way of escaping through the pipe..
@@Matty12787 yea i agree, though ag might be a bit too weak for the amount of weight, unless you bed it really well. then i would do a few drains across the road to the gully or what ever is over there. also the rock he is using is worthless for draining. crush run is basically what this is only with larger chunks and that does not perc. the small rocks fill the space the large rocks leave. i would go get some gabion rock. you can even get it caged to fit with block if you want. some times stuff just is going to cost you.
As a non-engineer and someone who knows nothing about the ultimate solution ( because you don’t own the land uphill) and watching your channel , can’t wait for the next mudslide, video and temporary fix!!!
Get a trigger switch on the torch handle for that type of TIG work. Also, a bit of flux helps with the silicon bronze. Yes, the TIG torch is shielded, but the flux still helps clean the metal, the shielding just keeps oxygen out of the hot metal.
With all your natural rock and Riley's penchant for welding, I'm kind of surprised you didn't build gabion baskets for your retaining walls and stack them a couple layers high.
I hate to say it, but some of us warned you at the time. You can't just repair and move on, you have to go uphill and trace the water routes before the next big downpour, and prevent any channels from forming above the road. Very tricky when your road is always going to be downhill from something, but if you don't prepare you are always going to repair. You need to get a handle on how water moves through your land, and be very careful with culverts. They speed up and funnel the water, making it more destructive. You have to include methods to slow the water down as early and as often as possible along your danger zones.
Unfortunately this isn’t our land, so we are limited to working within the road easement.
@@AmbitionStrikes That's a bummer.
The soil base still has a large clay component, will absorb/retain water, and flow down hill. Hydro seeding will help. But, this seems like just one band-aid with more to come. I would recommend that they get a geologic engineer to give some expert guidance.
That does seem to be an aqua flow underground type stream, channel coming down through there. When it’s wet weather what you’re seeing is it’s the actual overflow.
I had a similar problem. I had the room to dig a 4 foot deep ditch which I filled up with pit run.
It solidified the road right there but 200 feet downhill from the road consequently, two years later,a 1000 sqft area (which was actually my lawn) the land sunk approximately 2 feet.
Which was weird. My guess was the underground water dried up and sunk in. In large I’m guessing because I diverted the underground stream .
Maybe something you might want to consider when checking out that whole area when it dries up. It might weaken the downhill side of your road.
(I’d take a few pictures and compare it every year? )
Great vid! 👌you’re getting good ont that machine.
@@C3Cooper
Yup . I imagine it would’ve been hard to dig down a couple of feet to lay a ditch channel of gravel first.
But that would’ve been an option to keep the underground water draining before it becomes a problem.
You said more road work and you delivered. Impressive that you did all this work over months and still found time to make content for weekly videos. Yes good friends are special. They qualify for free boat use for a getaway weekend.
Great job folks! You might consider adding a wildflower seed mix to that grass seed mix, there is a multitude of benifits and reasons why, also might consider once the grass takes off good, add in some native ferns as well. All these things together really helped me with a far worse and steeper hillside problem before.
@millsy.g, I agree. The surface water will still be a problem. Guys, you could help to minimise this by planting shrubs, large ones, like buddleia, ceanothus and spiraea japonica all big shrubs which would all need that water in the spring just as it's on the rise. Planting these along the embankments will also give you a WOW of colour and form and thicket to protect the rd and yourselves from falling debris. Plus they are perfect for bees 🐝 and butterflies 🦋 ❤😊xx
@AmbitionStrikes, Riley, I would have stacked blocks at least two rows high on either side of the firewood access road. Even with the grass, you can still have a slide which can bury the single row and cause more headache than it's worth, and make for a lot more digging. The angle of that slope is such that it could cause an under-slide effect because of the shallowness and its ability to hold water, which is witnessed by the soupy, sticky, consistency of the dirt that slid onto the road.
Another option I would consider is to dig channels on either side of the firewood access road to alleviate too much water from running down the entire surface of the hill.
As an engineer, I think the wall should've been 3 or 4 blocks high. I'm afraid the mud is just going to pour right over it next year. I'm sorry.
If he is lucky the wall won't just tip over
I agree with you. In a separate comment I mentioned some ways to improve it, mayby when they have to redo this or another part of the road. It seems they dont read these particular comments, or choose to ignore them. Can't be sure though...
@@jaypeeters more views when it fails. They are using youtube smarts ;)
@@danthehomelessman5533 must be that! 🙈
I was thinking the same thing along with using caged rock blocks. I'm also thinking that the saturation area began much higher up the hill and that hasn't been mitigated.
The retaining wall can be built using Rock Gabions. Gabions are cages which can be filled with small interlocking rocks, medium size rocks and then these cages are placed like bricks to form retaining wall. There are many mountaineers regions around Maharashtra and around Kerala where we have contracts building roads and we regularly used the KBS. This is a very efficient and reliable technique to be retaining walls in do we get a try. Give me an wall has the Gabion wall has much bigger advantage in the long run as it can also drain water slowly and retail the dirt. Amazing content.
Wouldn't it allow water to continue to flow out onto the road that way, through the gabions?
You guys and the crews you assembly are so fun to see how you come up with solutions to issues and deploy the ideas. Just incredible what your 2 have built together!! True love for you and your family, and these video's. Thanx for sharing!
Thanks for watching! ☺️
If you were to do this again, here are some tips (I build these walls for roadworks, not by myself but my crew does the work).
- Base of angular crushed rocks or crushed concrete (cheaper sometimes).
- first block should be partially buried.
- drainage pipe with crushed rock, all about the same size. It not only drains the water but also slows it down and works as a buffer.
- the heigth of the wall should follow the land with some steps if needed.
- let the blocks have a little step in to the hill.
What you did wil still work, but I predict that it will shift. Good effort!
My thoughts exactly. I'm not a roadway professional, but I feel like with the weak base they set those blocks on that the wall can shift and maybe break apart.
@jaypeeters Yep, haven't even finished the video yet. It doesn't make sense to me to just "wing it" on this big important project. For the french drain shouldn't there be a preferred 4" drain line at the bottom, covered with 2" gravel, then covered with the drain fabric? Plus everything else you said. He didn't do proper research on this job. Welp,Good luck with it. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
When they set the first block I thought "where's the base?" That think is almost certainly going to settle.
With the key on the top and bottom of each block how would you step them into the hill? I don't remember but since they are keyed they are designed to be stacked flush up to a certain height.
@@ToddKing Hi Todd, you are correct, these blocks are not ment to be 'stepped in'. I Would have chosen a diffrent block to begin with.
What an exciting video. Lot and lots of work by all of you! Tyler is a Beast of help doing any job. Hi Oliver
Your ingenuity is amazing project after project. Your road fix is another great achievement. I love how you have bought and built the tools needed for your homestead
Thar was great. Glad to see the hydroseeder again. Thank yall for what you do.
On the upside
This road is a great content generator!
Buddy of mine up in northern Idaho owns a 79 acre homestead up in the mountains and he built Gabon walls along his roads and he grew some kind of tree (looks like a willow type tree but i am not sure how it survives up in the cold) that has a massive root structure to hold up the banks with some kind of drainage system using 24 inch culvert pipes. He has told me that his road/driveway was the most expensive part of his property
Junipers maybe?
Not usually the sort of thing I'd watch but it came up in my suggestions.
I started with yr septic build and thoroughly enjoyed it so I watched this.
Great work guys, I've really enjoyed yr posts.
Hey from North Queensland Australia 🙂👍
i've lived off grid part time for 50 years. 50 years ago, my 4 mile dirt and rock driveway was a problem often. Over the years, with culverts, more rock, etc, now it is that 4 miles that is fine, where the county blacktop is not. Being aware and making sure that water is allowed to drain well, is the key. Yeah, personally, I would have excavated and filled in the trench with rock, and had a drain away from that, either a culvert or a trench that had a good place for the water to escape. Your ground there is saturated. Unless it is rock, it is going to turn to mud. Putting a barrier there looks good, but unless you have a way for the water to run off BEFORE it saturates the dirt, you are potentially even making it worse... With a good way to let the water escape, i'm not sure you needed all that concrete retaining wall. I get a lot of rain too, (60" a year average in No Cal on the coast) and I have no such problems anymore.
I agree, there are three key goals to manage in a gravel road, water, water and water.
We have always undercut about a foot below grade, put in drain tile and gravel then put the block above it then put drain tile behind the block at ground level and in several sections up the hillside covered with dirt to divert water out of the bank to avoid water saturating the dirt causing a slide. Hydroseeding does stabilize the hell out of a bank too
That will work, I think it should be backed up with perf pipe too but hydroseeding will help a lot. A normal winter with a slow spring thaw will pack that slope in tight. next spring the vegetation should be really thick which will hold the embankment in place way better.
Yep - culvert/pipe would probably have been a good idea 👍
i have mentioned this before you need to make a skid that the skid steer can lift with hand rails and a place for the welder that you can move around easily and stand on with your welder or other tools.
When this video first started, I was thinking "snow"! I live in Idaho, and we've been experiencing triple digit temps. Then it gets to the "a few months later." ohh yeah.😂 good video guys, enjoyed it.👍
Out at My 11 Acre property, we ended up digging out 3 ft trench in 2 different places along the road where the mud/water was worst. Then laying down corrugated pipe 3ft diameter. buried them so now the water just flows safely under our road.
Thanks for the news, Take care of you and your family out there, from Sweden
Use the rocks on site to make gabions. Cost effective. Strong. Allows water to pass thru.
I think you need a bunch of fast growing trees of a type that like your particular latitude and elevation, in addition to the drainage considerations and hydroseed
Sounds like a reunion of families every year on the homestead.
Its great to see you have the equipment to make the job fun.
Watch the tyke though, be safe.
Behind your retaining wall is a valley. You should have added a culvert to allow water access to cross the road. That's something you will probably need to do in the future I feel like you are still going to have problems with all that water coming off the hillside. It has to go somewhere. But good luck on your project.
I am enjoying your channel I enjoy watching good people doing good work and enjoying their lives. May all your dreams come, true, good luck.
You where doing real good till you back filled all the way to the cement blocks. You should of left at least 6 feet flat on top of the blocks so any movement above had a place to land on and rain water could stay up above the blocks and drain down instead of over the blocks into the edge of the road. Also wait for spring next season your wall will move slightly because its above ground. Wish you luck with your repairs.
Most people, seeing their road wash away in a mudslide, would be sad and upset, but not these two! They immediately have big smiles on their faces and are ready to get started working together to fix the issue. Ambitions Strikes again!
Ambition fueled by Rice Krispies!!
Talk to your local logging co. Im sure they will be happy to give you a few pointers about culverts, cross ditches etc.
My 48kw battery weighs 2700 lbs. very happy it wasn't one piece. When the snow melted my 500lb propane tank started leaning, all I could do was pile a mound of crush on the low side and it almost leveled out over 3 weeks. Fun watching your yard transform over the years, thanks for sharing you have helped me a lot in building my own off grid space.
When you said retaining wall would be blocks, I pictured those small blocks from Home Depot. Nope- now those are big boy blocks!
it's Jersey barrier adjacent literally
It's beautiful there, you two have really enjoyed putting in the work, and I have enjoyed watching your videos
Sure nice that Riley has a lot specialized equipment for jobs like this.
I'm in Canberra Australia in winter 32f ATM and yet this video is still making it seem warm
Riley, you read my mind when you said maybe you should have backfilled with rock and made a better foundation. I would've done that and also angled those blocks several degrees, leaning towards the hillside Instead of making them plum.
Living in the Sierras, I've fought these very situations many times over the years... I really wish you would have put some perforated pipe (drain tile) in before you started filling your fabric with rock. If it's in your budget, think about running a second course of Junk-Block. The extra height really helps and by staggering the joints you keep the bottom course in place. But, if a mud slide wants to happen... it will. All you can do is rebuild.
I think it's great that you have learned to train your drainage, I think it's beautiful awesome video thank you.
It's almost like the trees were holding the soil in place 🫠
You all are awesome ! My wife and I love to watch. Thanks for sharing. ❤
Nice job guys you might have wanted to go to blocks high all the way around for better protection so dirt won’t spill over during heavy rain and snow melt but it will hold up good with what you a done should have perf pipe in first then rock cloth then dirt but it will work just fine that way but will not drain as fast like if you had pipe in whole. Love you content keep up the good work stay safe and blessed
I love have the both of you are not afraid of any projects. The videos are amazing 🤩
Props to the Reese's! Love you guys!
I just found your channel about a month ago and I can't get enough of it, y'all have an amazing place and an amazing life thanks for sharing your life with us it's very inspiring looking forward to your future projects can't wait to see what's next!
great job and fun to watch
It was good to see Tyler again, and it looks like it will work - but then again, what do I know?
It was so much fun having Tyler back on another road project!
Fractured rock behind the wall will not let enough water through. Bull rock or round rock lets water through. Having a 6" perf pipe run through will move water. Nest winter you can tweek it.
Oliver, I saw your Momma and Daddy's snowverlanders track design in a commercial... it was really cool seeing it broadcast to the world!!!!!
I wonder if you could plant prairie grass on the bank there. Native prairie grass has roots that can go down as far as 8' into soil. If they could survive there, it might be helpful with keeping the soil in place.
Nice job, I have no doubt it will work. Keep us updated on the progress of the seed growth, please.
If you get a Big rainfall, as the blocks are just laying on the ground, they may wash away.!!. You said it Riley, should have put stone underneath, Then lay the blocks on that, then maybe then Rebar to hold them in place, doesnt a French drain have a Culvert pipe running at the back??. Good job and having fun while doing the job x x x.
Place is becoming incredible.
Yes we all need a Tyler on our live at some point
🎉🎉🎉 WOW kids I’m so sorry that this happened.
Not a good thing. But I know you guys and I know that somehow you will fix it.
Blessings,Carlos ✝️🙏❤️😊🇺🇸
t-shirt for Tyler. Fuel gauge with "Empty" on one side... "Pizza and Cookies" on the other. (or an automotive fuel fill door which instead of "Diesel Only" says "Pizza and Cookies only"
Yes!!! 😂
Absolute fantastic job, Grüße aus Deutschland , greetings from Germany
This is one of the many projects I see you Guys contend with and accomplish it’s beautiful and fun watching what you’ve managed to achieve yes great help with Tyler coming back for next serve 😂😂😂😂
You were very smart to gather equipment, make a dump truck out of an army truck. I loved those early videos. I knew you were building a tool set, to build a life. It seemed to work pretty good didn't it?
Huge work guys!! Super!
You certainly repaired the landslide guys...Good job.... well done....Stay safe you all and see you soon
"The Team of Three" did another fine job working together as they stabilize the hillside. Blessings to you all.
Team of 4, the baby was supervising lol
wonderful as always!!!
Getting things growing to hold the banks and a few ag drains
Please more videos😍 so cool what are you do🤙🏻
Nice Channel😀
"right way" I'm not sure, but from my retaining wall experience the bottom block needs to be below the lower grade, at least partially. The wall probably needs to be higher, and the more courses the deeper the first block needs to be. By 4 courses above ground you probably have at least one course below grade (total 5 blocks high).
If you end up with blocks and mud on your road, you'll get a chance to do it again!
Hey, the end of the project it looks great. Your hydro seed will definitely help hold back the that hillside.
Wow, that retaining wall seemed to have worked out really well!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Nice job with the French drain. You're home made hydroseader works amazing. It's way more cost-effective than having it done by a contractor. You 2 have matured a lot sense leaving California. Best move you could have made for raising your family in a healthy, happy environment.
Every time it rains my driveway turns into a pond ducks and everything lol
So happy to see that Oliver is there to deliver INSTRUCTIONS, I am telling you the boy will Very shortly BE IN CHARGE.
Now at first I was afraid the project would fail but I sadly underestimated your determination in completing it. Great Job!
man i build far remote off grid cabins in canada and you might want to start taking this whole thing alot more seriously.... i nearly escaped being buried in when dimple boarding one of my foundations and was only hard rain for 6 hours the entire mountain above me landslide that evening about 3 hours after i left and closed every single highway in 300km radius for 2 months as well as flooded a whole entire town. i came back 2 months later and my foundation hole was filled 8ft with water and the entire banks of soil filled its self back into the hole.
go and find some old loggers in the area and bring them over to assess your property for problems. they know how to build stable roads in the middle of nowhere to hold tons and tons of mad log truck drivers racing down the mountain faster then humanly possible
Issue is they only have an easement & don't own the land for their road\driveway.
Those large blocks will do well at staving off a landslide, and the french drain will direct the water away downslope! Looks like a win-win!
You are right everybody needs a Tyler!! He is the Man!!!
You guys are awesome. Everything done with a smile and thumbs-up.
is it just me or does anyone else feel bad when they see the old Dozer just sitting... it needs fixed and back into the mix of things
Well. One step at a time 🐿🐿🐿🐿
The " Slow Mo" is pretty good! Dean( Soul)
are looking forward to see how the seeds are growing, nice tips and good work. best rgds fm Denmark ;-)
Love the long videos!!!!!!
If it was me, I would have put a layer of heavy plastic at the bottom of the gravel, so you can direct all the water away from the retaining wall. With permeable fabric at the bottom of the drain, it will allow the water to undermine your wall in time.
That's a lot of work! Hope it holds up.
Heck, life is a project. Never stop its the trip now the destination (to a point). Yes surprised you didn't run a real french drain to keep the water from seeping under.
You might want to add a swale upslope at the wall to limit how much surface water is coming over your wall. Looks like you will be adding more wall next year.
Looking good so far! The water is draining down the side of the road. No worries, an Andrew Camarata collaboration if this wall fails in the future will make a great video.
looks and sounds like might also need something like retaining pile sheets, they get drove down into the ground several feet. Nothing left to really move after that. You will need underground water drainage as well. just a tip
Yes you are placing it on a saturated mud, so this wall can lean and collapse by itself even without any pressure from the mud above/behind it ...
Need to find out where the water is coming from? Need to go on up that hill and divert if you can
"What's up Andrew....." :)
Im no specialist or anything so im sure this application will do what your wanting it to, but i woukd have added perforated pipe, not sure a footing would be needed since it doesnt seem ur stacking those barriers, but for water diversion it should work
Super cool video. Thanks!
Great road project. Cant wait to see how it turns out
Wow, that was awesome it came out beautifully 😍! Keep up the hard work 💪🏻 y'all are killing it 🙏🙏🙏
Great job...no reason it won't work....love the teamwork....nice to have the "Tyler team" there too...🙃
Remember, water is lazy. It takes the easiest route, so give it an easy route.
Im from Europe and it’s strange to see snow in the middle of summer
They’re showing us when it happened (there was snow on the ground at that time), but they’re fixing it now