I learned to torch weld in high school shop over 50 years ago, so this was a perfect video to show the different types of electric welding and how they function. Really appreciated that you were/are not a proficient welder. That showed the simplicity of the machine and some auto settings.
I have one, and it worked pretty good. I used the mig this weekend and was able to fix two wind mills (small ones). I used the plasma cutter to cut a washer and dryer and that worked out well.
2 improvements I hope Yeswelder makes : 1. Angle barb fittings for the plasma air to tidy up the back of the machine so the hose does not stick out passed the cabinet. 2. Supply an 0.023" MIG wire feed roller and add this size to the settings. 0.023" wire is better for body work because you can achieve a lower crown bead and introduce slightly less heat into the panel and possibly prevent warpage. I am very interested in getting this machine but the absence of the roller and the program cause me to hesitate on a purchase. The roller is available separately that will fit this machine. The settings are controlled by the program in the machine. I fear that as it now comes, 0.023" wire may not produce satisfactory results. 20ga is not an option. Newer cars are using 22ga. I have my fingers crossed they will add the thinner wire size to the proraming.
MIG settings in general seemed to need a little tweaking, so maybe they'll update that as well if they change the other MIG properties. It's a shame you can't override synergic control so you can work with whatever settings you like/need.
Tip at the end of the the weld angle it at end to break the arc then hold torch over the end of weld to help protect it, and cool off the tungsten as well!
This is a really great intro to the MP200 Welder... I am a kickstarter backer and must admit I'll be looking back over your video for set up purposes... Thanks heaps
I really like your review. I am in the Philippines and a machine like this is gold.... I understand you are learning the different welding process of the machine that you are demonstrating. Remember a weave or straight stringer weld is never just determined by a predetermined speed of travel but only by observing to size and location of your weld puddle ( molten metal) Maintain a weld puddle of the same size will determine your travel speed not making a travel speed to give a good weld bead. You have a great machine to learn with and again I really like your review.
No lift or Hf start in tig is what got me. I’d also pay another $2-300 if it was AC Tig. Evan at $1000 this thing would destroy anything else on the market if it had those features.
@@49ccscoot For sure. I called them and was asking them some questions and mentioned I’d pay $1K easy for this machine if it was AC and HF. Maybe they’ll make a 2.0 in the future.
You where the PERFECT guy for this video review! I smiled, laughed, learned and really enjoyed this video! I would have ran into the same issues with TIG... So I can relate to your pain 😂 Great video and really contemplating buying one of these
Funny thing is I weld for a living, all processes, xray and phase array tested welds. Most high end welders on the jobs anymore are loaded with Chinese parts and quite a few Miller machines are made there. It sucks, but it seems that that's just how things are anymore.
My experience with scooters has shown me that Made In China can mean a lot of things. There are companies that make bottom tier stuff at low cost, but there are companies producing parts for companies like Yamaha or Harley that make quality components. There is great capability for manufacturing, but it depends what is specified and how much money is being saved. My opinion of this machine is that it is not the cheapest bottom tier unit, but it's definitely not a Miller.
It was not very long ago that you had to buy 3 or 4 separate machines to do what the MP200 will do. It is clearly not a "pro" machine, but it may be a good choice for a someone on a limited budget that wants to explore the different welding processes. Hopefully they can get the bugs straightened out and keep the price low enough (under 1K) for entry level hobbyists. I paid almost as much for my flux core welder 12 years ago, times have changed!
30 amp breaker will be fine for your plasma cutter, unless you anticipate cutting extremely thick material for long periods of time if you’re cutting about quarter inch material you’re not gonna pop a 30 amp breaker. Good luck! And if you want to run a 220 line to your shop watch some RUclips videos. It’s very easy you will be surprised.
I agree, but it seems that they were trying to create a machine that did basically well enough at common tasks vs really making a do-it-all machine. Read the comments and there's a person that bought one recently and plasma is not functioning properly for him either. That's disappointing to hear about a production unit. Mine was a beta model.
Great review and testing. I received mine a few days ago and found the Plasma cutter is just as bad or worse then yours and doesnt work on 110v as advertised. Very disapointing to see they didnt fix these things and just shipped it out.
I'm sorry to hear that. I really thought they'd take care of it before normal production since they were aware of an issue even before I ever received my beta test unit. I did a review before this one for a cutter and it went great, but declined anything farther because of this sort of thing.
Hi, I just find this video you made, it’s very cool, I come from Hynade who is plasma and cutter producer, we hope set up a long term cooperation for review of plasma and welders,Do you interesting for this project ? I look forward to heard from you.
Thanks very much for this review. You reminded us more than once that you are not a professional welder and that is the perspective that I, as an amateur, need to hear. You covered a lot of the fundamentals that the pros assume everyone knows. Again, thanks.
Are you having issues with the synergic settings preprogrammed ?? So far I tested mines on 220v using .035 solid with gas co2mix on 14ga(2mm) steel selecting the 14ga thickness It seems to have problems welding. Not just 1 welder its both welders! But when I switch out to .030 Flux and on 120v selecting 14ga works fine. It basically sucks on solid .035 wire on 220v ! It feels under powered on both mp200. Values displayed are not true!
From what I experienced, allowing feed speed adjustment beyond the synergic control would fix any problem that I had. Sometimes it piles up filler and I can't do anything about it.
Show de bolo essa máquina, adorei, gostaria de saber se vem completa com todas as tochas e se posso usar ela aqui no Brasil, porque aqui a voltagem é 110V e 220V e a assistência técnica, se posso contar com ela? Muito obrigado.
We use 110V and 220V here, so that part should be OK. Not sure if your receptacles are any different, but there are probably adapters. It comes with everything shown. Not sure about tech support. I was dealing with someone specifically handling the people doing reviews and at times it would take 2 weeks to get a reply. I'd think if you don't reply to the people that you want to publicize your product promptly, it doesn't say good things about support... but it could be great. I have no idea.
I was,chief,welding a million baskets for walking chairs.And had 5-6 elderly from institution as employees.Cutting the wires,place them into a grid form,welding the wires,bend the grid into a basket,and weld the thicker rectangular square upon the top.And scored highest in micro component electronic soldering.at 3.biggest factory,"Silicon valley".Ended on youth welfare pension.
Nice clear review. Just one thing though, a machine with capacitors can'y be treated as safe just because it's turned off. In this case yeah, but generally not a good assumption, especially if you need to open it up. This applies to any thing , even microwave ovens, they can still give you a blast. :)
The plasma cutter keeps cutting out like that because you keep taking the tip off of the steel, you got to keep the tip against the steel or it won't work.
I made many attempts and tried on and away from the steel. The cutter that I have uses a guard that keeps it off of the steel and works great, so that's what I was used to and tried when starting.
Is there any settings lower then 18 Guage? Is this due to being plugged into 220v rather then 110v possibly? I'm curious as I often am welding 20-24 Guage sheet metal and need to be able to dial the welder into these parameters, any ideas ? Cheers!
What you see is as low as the settings get, and it was plugged into 110V. Your best bet with thin material on this machine would be TIG. The bad thing with all of the synergic control on this for me is that you can't adjust all things individually to get what you want.
75/25 (c25) argon c02 for mig short circuit😅 Argon will only produce a crappy weld. If you get the proper gas it will be 100 times better. I guarantee it’s not technique it’s gas.
My understanding is that this machine is not even in production yet. Not sure what a set of hex keys is about, but according to their site there are still 4 days left in the kickstarter campaign. I don't think they have machines to send out. If I were in your shoes, I would try to contact them and find out if there was an error or what is happening. Hope they treat you right.
My only issue is it’s like buying one from harbor freight and they count on planned obsolescence. I have a 20 year old Hobart that just won’t die. Not being negative but you get what you pay for
I don't disagree. I have 2 other YesWelder machines, a TIG/MMA and a plasma cutter. Both work fine, but I haven't had them long enough to give any honest review on durability or support. I have a Hobart MIG/FCAW that I've had for I think 7-8 years and the machine itself feels more solid. I do like this machine, but it doesn't have quite the same feel and I wonder about durability of electronics or the screen having issues and things like that. Hard to know how it really turns out. I think for anyone that's a pro, it may not be the right choice. It seems more like a DIY unit for folks like me that don't weld or cut daily. I will say that the torches feel like quality units that I'm not worried about.
I've been welding, as a hobby/at home shop welder, with a Power Fist (Princess Auto) 200A MIG/Flux machine for +16 years. I paid around $200CDN for it on sale - still cheaper than the $1000 Miller at the time. Things still worked even if worn out - but this summer the feeder system started to slip or stop and parts are not available or adaptable. The MIG torch jacket is burn in spots, etc and there are no replacement parts for it as it seems to use Habour Freight/Princess Auto specs. YESWelder seems to have used standard EURO style plugs and other common parts (standard rollers) that are shard with other manufacturers. I've built many things with this cheap welder - including my welding table and welding cart and if I get +16 years out of this "cheap" welder I'll be happy. I still had a +40 year-old Forney "farm" welder that worked but it was only stick and I suck at MMA (both welding and fighting) so I passed it on to it's next owner.
This was a pre-production model. Documentation was not great at that point. I did not get a user manual. Mostly some notes about what they already knew was wrong with it before they sent it. I would assume it comes with more information now.
What manual? This was a beta test. A beta test that I was not made aware of till I got a machine with flaws and without a manual. The included paperwork was basically just marketing and saying oh BTW we sent you a machine with known flaws.
As a backer of their Kickstarter campaign, I received my production model two days before Christmas. Decided to throw it under the tree and put a bow on it so that my two young kids would recognize that daddy has a new toy he wants to play with, too! Opened it up and looked through the box... no manual. Contacted Yes Welder and asked for a manual; was told that it's still in production and it will be sent out via email once it's ready. I bought this "all in one" unit because I want to learn. I'm brand new to welding and cutting, so $500 for this unit seemed like a great deal. I'm still excited about it without the manual. It just means that I'm relying on videos like this to teach me some things along the way. Thanks so much for your detailed video. Even the issues you faced with the plasma cutter are issues I'll likely face as a newbie and I appreciate seeing the troubleshooting involved. Can't wait to see if I can get my hands dirty with the plasma cutter tomorrow!
They offered me a free machine. I did not contact them. I just got an email saying we want you to make a video and we'll give you this. I don't think I made any claims of being a pro welder or even a knowledgeable welder. For me, some of it is a way to learn or try things that I probably wouldn't have tried otherwise.
I learned to torch weld in high school shop over 50 years ago, so this was a perfect video to show the different types of electric welding and how they function. Really appreciated that you were/are not a proficient welder. That showed the simplicity of the machine and some auto settings.
I have one, and it worked pretty good. I used the mig this weekend and was able to fix two wind mills (small ones). I used the plasma cutter to cut a washer and dryer and that worked out well.
2 improvements I hope Yeswelder makes :
1. Angle barb fittings for the plasma air to tidy up the back of the machine so the hose does not stick out passed the cabinet.
2. Supply an 0.023" MIG wire feed roller and add this size to the settings. 0.023" wire is better for body work because you can achieve a lower crown bead and introduce slightly less heat into the panel and possibly prevent warpage.
I am very interested in getting this machine but the absence of the roller and the program cause me to hesitate on a purchase. The roller is available separately that will fit this machine. The settings are controlled by the program in the machine. I fear that as it now comes, 0.023" wire may not produce satisfactory results. 20ga is not an option. Newer cars are using 22ga. I have my fingers crossed they will add the thinner wire size to the proraming.
MIG settings in general seemed to need a little tweaking, so maybe they'll update that as well if they change the other MIG properties. It's a shame you can't override synergic control so you can work with whatever settings you like/need.
Tip at the end of the the weld angle it at end to break the arc then hold torch over the end of weld to help protect it, and cool off the tungsten as well!
This is a really great intro to the MP200 Welder... I am a kickstarter backer and must admit I'll be looking back over your video for set up purposes... Thanks heaps
Glad it helps! Thank you.
I really like your review. I am in the Philippines and a machine like this is gold.... I understand you are learning the different welding process of the machine that you are demonstrating. Remember a weave or straight stringer weld is never just determined by a predetermined speed of travel but only by observing to size and location of your weld puddle ( molten metal) Maintain a weld puddle of the same size will determine your travel speed not making a travel speed to give a good weld bead. You have a great machine to learn with and again I really like your review.
super video. It left no questions to ask.
No lift or Hf start in tig is what got me. I’d also pay another $2-300 if it was AC Tig. Evan at $1000 this thing would destroy anything else on the market if it had those features.
I've got their TIG 205DS that does HF starts in a very affordable unit, but they say it couldn't be incorporated in this one to keep cost down.
@@49ccscoot For sure. I called them and was asking them some questions and mentioned I’d pay $1K easy for this machine if it was AC and HF. Maybe they’ll make a 2.0 in the future.
You where the PERFECT guy for this video review! I smiled, laughed, learned and really enjoyed this video! I would have ran into the same issues with TIG... So I can relate to your pain 😂 Great video and really contemplating buying one of these
if it don't have arc start it is a drag tip - it has to stay in contact with base metal
Funny thing is I weld for a living, all processes, xray and phase array tested welds. Most high end welders on the jobs anymore are loaded with Chinese parts and quite a few Miller machines are made there. It sucks, but it seems that that's just how things are anymore.
My experience with scooters has shown me that Made In China can mean a lot of things. There are companies that make bottom tier stuff at low cost, but there are companies producing parts for companies like Yamaha or Harley that make quality components. There is great capability for manufacturing, but it depends what is specified and how much money is being saved. My opinion of this machine is that it is not the cheapest bottom tier unit, but it's definitely not a Miller.
Your supposed lead the other direction when dig welding.your right handed so weld right to left
We certified on straight argon so that isn’t ur problem, if u can’t adjust everything on that machine I don’t want the piece of junk
Really grat tip @ 44:20+ regarding TIG Starting ( Lift Off ) & avoiding getting the tip stuck.. Nice one
It was not very long ago that you had to buy 3 or 4 separate machines to do what the MP200 will do. It is clearly not a "pro" machine, but it may be a good choice for a someone on a limited budget that wants to explore the different welding processes. Hopefully they can get the bugs straightened out and keep the price low enough (under 1K) for entry level hobbyists. I paid almost as much for my flux core welder 12 years ago, times have changed!
I like that. A lot you can do with it.
Getting a production version for $500, seems a good buy.
Home Spains. Que Tan Buenas Son las Máquinas de Soldar. Como el Presentador
Hola. Decime cuál es la Soldadura Automáticas
The tip needs to contact the metal when you're plasma cutting...
seen a few videos on this unit and no one has done a test review in 110VAC mode which sucks
30 amp breaker will be fine for your plasma cutter, unless you anticipate cutting extremely thick material for long periods of time if you’re cutting about quarter inch material you’re not gonna pop a 30 amp breaker. Good luck! And if you want to run a 220 line to your shop watch some RUclips videos. It’s very easy you will be surprised.
Need to have ac/dc tig with pedal and spool gun then it would be the ultimate diy machine.
I agree, but it seems that they were trying to create a machine that did basically well enough at common tasks vs really making a do-it-all machine. Read the comments and there's a person that bought one recently and plasma is not functioning properly for him either. That's disappointing to hear about a production unit. Mine was a beta model.
@@49ccscoot if more people
Want the extra features they will build it. It’s possible they can do it. Maybe ver2 will have it.
Great review and testing. I received mine a few days ago and found the Plasma cutter is just as bad or worse then yours and doesnt work on 110v as advertised. Very disapointing to see they didnt fix these things and just shipped it out.
I'm sorry to hear that. I really thought they'd take care of it before normal production since they were aware of an issue even before I ever received my beta test unit. I did a review before this one for a cutter and it went great, but declined anything farther because of this sort of thing.
Hi, I just find this video you made, it’s very cool, I come from Hynade who is plasma and cutter producer, we hope set up a long term cooperation for review of plasma and welders,Do you interesting for this project ? I look forward to heard from you.
Don't you push tig and not pull it?
Thanks very much for this review.
You reminded us more than once that you are not a professional welder and that is the perspective that I, as an amateur, need to hear.
You covered a lot of the fundamentals that the pros assume everyone knows.
Again, thanks.
Make sure you don’t have any water in air line!
Are you having issues with the synergic settings preprogrammed ?? So far I tested mines on 220v using .035 solid with gas co2mix on 14ga(2mm)
steel selecting the 14ga thickness It seems to have problems welding. Not just 1 welder its both welders! But when I switch out to .030 Flux
and on 120v selecting 14ga works fine. It basically sucks on solid .035 wire on 220v ! It feels under powered on both mp200. Values displayed are not true!
From what I experienced, allowing feed speed adjustment beyond the synergic control would fix any problem that I had. Sometimes it piles up filler and I can't do anything about it.
Son Buenísimo las Máquinas de Soldar. Como el Presentador OK
Turn it up to stick weld
Good job on the vid wish the welder would have worked better!
Show de bolo essa máquina, adorei, gostaria de saber se vem completa com todas as tochas e se posso usar ela aqui no Brasil, porque aqui a voltagem é 110V e 220V e a assistência técnica, se posso contar com ela? Muito obrigado.
We use 110V and 220V here, so that part should be OK. Not sure if your receptacles are any different, but there are probably adapters. It comes with everything shown. Not sure about tech support. I was dealing with someone specifically handling the people doing reviews and at times it would take 2 weeks to get a reply. I'd think if you don't reply to the people that you want to publicize your product promptly, it doesn't say good things about support... but it could be great. I have no idea.
I was,chief,welding a million baskets for walking chairs.And had 5-6 elderly from institution as employees.Cutting the wires,place them into a grid form,welding the wires,bend the grid into a basket,and weld the thicker rectangular square upon the top.And scored highest in micro component electronic soldering.at 3.biggest factory,"Silicon valley".Ended on youth welfare pension.
Nice clear review. Just one thing though, a machine with capacitors can'y be treated as safe just because it's turned off. In this case yeah, but generally not a good assumption, especially if you need to open it up. This applies to any thing , even microwave ovens, they can still give you a blast. :)
Take it from someone that worked at a TV manufacturer back when we still built things in the USA.. CAPS are no joke lol.
Great review my man, well done!
The plasma cutter keeps cutting out like that because you keep taking the tip off of the steel, you got to keep the tip against the steel or it won't work.
I made many attempts and tried on and away from the steel. The cutter that I have uses a guard that keeps it off of the steel and works great, so that's what I was used to and tried when starting.
I found that the ground clamp doesn’t get a good connection from a weak spring, I had to keep moving my ground till it made good connection.
Great review
That’s awesome buddy
Great how to video.
Need to push with tig
Hi there, wondering what air compressor you used for the plasma cutter?
Thanx in advance
It's an old 15 gallon Craftsman.
How do I get a test one
They'll find you if they're interested based on your RUclips content. At least that's how it went for me.
What’s the max air pressure it requires to use?
They asked me to try up to 75psi IIRC.
What air compressor are you using with your MP200 plasma cutter? What is the max psi and cfm of that compressor?
It's a ~20 year old Craftsman. Max PSI is 150. Don't know CFM off the top of my head.
Burn back is just a simple way to say inductance
Is it for sale in Thailand? How much
You would need to check the link in the description and see if they will ship worldwide.
Too cold need wire speed turned up
MMA welding.
I’ll think of Mixed Martial Arts now next time I stick weld.
DC Tig only right?
Unfortunately.
Is there any settings lower then 18 Guage? Is this due to being plugged into 220v rather then 110v possibly? I'm curious as I often am welding 20-24 Guage sheet metal and need to be able to dial the welder into these parameters, any ideas ? Cheers!
What you see is as low as the settings get, and it was plugged into 110V. Your best bet with thin material on this machine would be TIG. The bad thing with all of the synergic control on this for me is that you can't adjust all things individually to get what you want.
sangat menarik
75/25 (c25) argon c02 for mig short circuit😅 Argon will only produce a crappy weld. If you get the proper gas it will be 100 times better. I guarantee it’s not technique it’s gas.
Yo hice mi compra y me robaron, nunca me llego la soldadora y solo me enviaron un juego de llaves exagonales
My understanding is that this machine is not even in production yet. Not sure what a set of hex keys is about, but according to their site there are still 4 days left in the kickstarter campaign. I don't think they have machines to send out. If I were in your shoes, I would try to contact them and find out if there was an error or what is happening. Hope they treat you right.
My only issue is it’s like buying one from harbor freight and they count on planned obsolescence. I have a 20 year old Hobart that just won’t die. Not being negative but you get what you pay for
I don't disagree. I have 2 other YesWelder machines, a TIG/MMA and a plasma cutter. Both work fine, but I haven't had them long enough to give any honest review on durability or support. I have a Hobart MIG/FCAW that I've had for I think 7-8 years and the machine itself feels more solid. I do like this machine, but it doesn't have quite the same feel and I wonder about durability of electronics or the screen having issues and things like that. Hard to know how it really turns out. I think for anyone that's a pro, it may not be the right choice. It seems more like a DIY unit for folks like me that don't weld or cut daily. I will say that the torches feel like quality units that I'm not worried about.
@@49ccscoot thanks for being honest. Love all your videos even though some are way over my head 🤣👍
I've been welding, as a hobby/at home shop welder, with a Power Fist (Princess Auto) 200A MIG/Flux machine for +16 years. I paid around $200CDN for it on sale - still cheaper than the $1000 Miller at the time. Things still worked even if worn out - but this summer the feeder system started to slip or stop and parts are not available or adaptable. The MIG torch jacket is burn in spots, etc and there are no replacement parts for it as it seems to use Habour Freight/Princess Auto specs. YESWelder seems to have used standard EURO style plugs and other common parts (standard rollers) that are shard with other manufacturers. I've built many things with this cheap welder - including my welding table and welding cart and if I get +16 years out of this "cheap" welder I'll be happy. I still had a +40 year-old Forney "farm" welder that worked but it was only stick and I suck at MMA (both welding and fighting) so I passed it on to it's next owner.
read your book
This was a pre-production model. Documentation was not great at that point. I did not get a user manual. Mostly some notes about what they already knew was wrong with it before they sent it. I would assume it comes with more information now.
Try a generator with a 220 socket
Because you’re lifting it off the metal
I tried everything. Many attempts were lifting a little because I have a YesWelder plasma cutter and that's how it's supposed to cut.
Please ditch the multibox and plug the welder into a wall socket....this may prevent the red trucks from turning up and you losing your shop
It was only plugged into the surge protector when checking settings. When welding/cutting it was directly in the outlet.
Stacking dimes and frying bacon...
Before you show anything... RTFM !!!
What manual? This was a beta test. A beta test that I was not made aware of till I got a machine with flaws and without a manual. The included paperwork was basically just marketing and saying oh BTW we sent you a machine with known flaws.
As a backer of their Kickstarter campaign, I received my production model two days before Christmas. Decided to throw it under the tree and put a bow on it so that my two young kids would recognize that daddy has a new toy he wants to play with, too! Opened it up and looked through the box... no manual. Contacted Yes Welder and asked for a manual; was told that it's still in production and it will be sent out via email once it's ready. I bought this "all in one" unit because I want to learn. I'm brand new to welding and cutting, so $500 for this unit seemed like a great deal. I'm still excited about it without the manual. It just means that I'm relying on videos like this to teach me some things along the way. Thanks so much for your detailed video. Even the issues you faced with the plasma cutter are issues I'll likely face as a newbie and I appreciate seeing the troubleshooting involved. Can't wait to see if I can get my hands dirty with the plasma cutter tomorrow!
@@givenway Good luck with it!
@@givenway Received mine today 15 FEB 22 - no manual.
well,,, there is a no an honest review on freebies , thats my review
Lmao guys who want to do videos on stuff they have no idea about, like stick welding
They offered me a free machine. I did not contact them. I just got an email saying we want you to make a video and we'll give you this. I don't think I made any claims of being a pro welder or even a knowledgeable welder. For me, some of it is a way to learn or try things that I probably wouldn't have tried otherwise.
Talking to much ... let's go