Who Really Pays For Our Government Debt?

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • There is often a lot of alarm and anxiety when we talk about a country’s government debt, but as we will learn, this fear of government debt, sometimes referred to as public debt or the national debt is completely unfounded.
    When politicians and journalists talk about the government debt or the public debt or the national debt and the big scary number that we are often told is unsustainable, it is important to remember that this outstanding debt is not a debt to our children or our grandchildren. The government’s debt is simply factored into the Federal budget each year when bonds from previous years mature, meaning the bond holder has their investment returned to them, with interest. Paying off this so-called debt is as simple as crediting accounts at the central bank. So the next time a politician tries to equate the government’s debt with your own household debt by arguing the currency-issuing government ‘needs to tighten its belt’ and ‘live within its means’, you know that they are making a political decision not to spend and that it has nothing to do with their ability to pay for anything the Government could want.
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    The Deficit Myth by Stephanie Kelton
    Reclaiming the State: A Progressive Vision of Sovereignty for a Post-Neoliberal World by William Mitchell & Thomas Fazi
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  • @PEGSInstitute
    @PEGSInstitute  3 года назад +1

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  • @TheJayman213
    @TheJayman213 2 года назад +9

    Props to 1Dime for introducing me to this channel.

  • @SpencerSnyder
    @SpencerSnyder 3 года назад +11

    Wow this video is great! Just subscribed.

  • @carjaune6793
    @carjaune6793 3 года назад +9

    Nice. Of course, banks have little incentive to let their savings at the central bank be "time vaulted". The question is really: what would happen if we just let the interest rate drop to 0, and completely abandoned the interest rate as a policy tool? I think Krugman and Kelton had an argument about this. It would be interesting to hear the pros and cons on each side.

    • @PEGSInstitute
      @PEGSInstitute  3 года назад +4

      We've actually drafted a future video on interest rates, maybe even two. It's a bit topic so we might tackle some of this.

    • @AFW007
      @AFW007 3 года назад +1

      Financial institutions have been buying up negative yielding debt across the world for a while now. Financial institutions bought up the first Australian debt to be issued at negative yields only a few weeks back. Gov debt of a monetary sovereign is the safest storer of wealth there is. That's a very large incentive to have their savings safeguarded under lock and key. Port folio diversification will mean they'll want profits from somewhere else (see what QE and negative rates have done to asset markets in the UK and Australia - QE started here in March), but they'll also want guaranteed safety in gov debt. Krugman is a fraud who is now claiming deficits are okay, after hyperventilating about them for years. I wouldn't trust a word he says. His power is derived from people believing his fantasy economics. Once the curtain is pulled back and he is discredited by the mainstream, he and the current mainstream are done.

    • @carjaune6793
      @carjaune6793 3 года назад

      @@AFW007 No fan of Krugman, but do you have some sources for him "hyperventilating" about deficits?

    • @AFW007
      @AFW007 3 года назад

      @@carjaune6793 how's this from his own wiki page: "His columns (IN THE NEW YORK TIMES) argued that the large deficits during that time were generated by the Bush administration as a result of decreasing taxes on the rich, increasing public spending, and fighting the Iraq War. Krugman wrote that these policies were unsustainable in the long run and would eventually generate a major economic crisis." He's a deficit hawk and since about early 2019, he's shifted his position. But for years he and his mainstream chums have mocked MMT, yet consistently misrepresented it. Now he's saying there's nothing new about MMT. This is a standard tactic from the mainstream, who see their careers slipping away from them. Type in "deficit" anywhere into his wiki history and you can see he's been a long time deficit hawk.

  • @keerthyaron7677
    @keerthyaron7677 Год назад +2

    Well I have a question, does this all happen in India
    Everything you said about money is debt, taxes are destroyed, Central banks electronic currency

  • @yvonneneilson2023
    @yvonneneilson2023 2 года назад +1

    I cant thank you enough for these videos. I am 70yrs and love new learning. Thank you

  • @DancingSoldiersOfRa
    @DancingSoldiersOfRa 3 года назад +9

    Great video! Understanding MMT reduces the constraints placed on govt spending which we will need to fight the Climate Crisis!

    • @kizzagt
      @kizzagt 3 года назад +3

      AKA pushing for unsustainable reckless spending with spiralling inflation.

    • @justsomeguy6336
      @justsomeguy6336 11 месяцев назад

      MMT doesn’t work.

    • @ThomasVWorm
      @ThomasVWorm 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@justsomeguy6336you don't understand MMT.
      MMT is about looking at the real constraints of an economy. The constraints are never on the financial side, since it is only bookkeeping.

    • @justsomeguy6336
      @justsomeguy6336 10 месяцев назад

      @@ThomasVWorm MMT doesn’t work anyway.

    • @ThomasVWorm
      @ThomasVWorm 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@justsomeguy6336 this is a nonsense statement, since MMT is not a programm or recipe. It is a description of the real world, which is obviously working.

  • @adiyarzharmenov9187
    @adiyarzharmenov9187 20 дней назад

    Haven't you heard of sovereign defaults?

    • @PEGSInstitute
      @PEGSInstitute  19 дней назад

      The things that are exceptionally rare, and if you actually look into them are not actually cases of debt defaults? Most of them are things like they just changed the term of the debt, or they restructured it. The list that is peddled as sovereign debt defaults includes 1970s Cambodia where they literally tried to abolish money.

  • @hilariousvideos7673
    @hilariousvideos7673 3 года назад +2

    Treasury Bonds are Junk Bonds

    • @harrue
      @harrue 2 года назад +1

      How? There is not a chance the government can’t pay you back.

  • @coasteyscoasteys
    @coasteyscoasteys 2 года назад +1

    What if the government can't pay the IOU
    What if the IOUs get out of hand and owe too much5

    • @PEGSInstitute
      @PEGSInstitute  2 года назад

      Pages 44-47 will answer that for you www.gc.cuny.edu/CUNY_GC/media/LISCenter/pkrugman/lerner-function-finance.pdf

    • @pebblepod30
      @pebblepod30 Год назад

      @@PEGSInstitute link doesn't work sorry.

    • @ThomasVWorm
      @ThomasVWorm 10 месяцев назад +1

      You miss the point:
      "paying" the IOU means replacing it with another IOU, because money is an IOU. The bank, where the money comes from is the central bank, which means, the bank of the state.
      So buying the bond back means the state replaces one of its IOUs with another of its IOUs it can create.
      So when a bank buys a government bond it must lend from the central bank in order to pay the bond. So the bank owes as much to the state as the state owes to the bank.
      And then the government can tax its IOUs back. So it never can owe too much by definition.

  • @Imblakeimblakethatsrght
    @Imblakeimblakethatsrght Месяц назад

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  • @ohmusicsweetmusic
    @ohmusicsweetmusic Год назад +3

    Right the US Debt is a political myth. The government as the issuer of the Dollar cannot be in debt to itself.

    • @justsomeguy6336
      @justsomeguy6336 11 месяцев назад

      You’re stupid.

    • @ThomasVWorm
      @ThomasVWorm 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@justsomeguy6336he is correct. Practically the state is the creditor.

  • @bertlammens4392
    @bertlammens4392 3 года назад +2

    MMT will never hold, its more like an explanation of the current system but the system is terrible. Government spending is unproductive and inefficient, inequality keeps rising, savings are disencentivized. This will not hold!

    • @PEGSInstitute
      @PEGSInstitute  3 года назад +7

      It is exactly an explanation of the current system, but it also tells us we're operating that system way below capacity and can improve the things you're concerned about without the constraints that classical thinking dictates.

    • @bertlammens4392
      @bertlammens4392 3 года назад

      ​@@PEGSInstitute" it also tells us we're operating that system way below capacity and can improve the things you're concerned about without the constraints that classical thinking dictates." what do you mean?

    • @PEGSInstitute
      @PEGSInstitute  3 года назад +11

      Many neoliberal governments refuse to spend on social programs because they don't see the profit or they tell us they don't have the budget for it. MMT removes that excuse. Of course they might still resist, but they won't be able to lie that it's a financial problem, MMT will make it clear that it's an ideology problem, and once people know that, hopefully they will cease to vote for the governments that ideologically support inequality.

    • @pebblepod30
      @pebblepod30 Год назад +2

      @@bertlammens4392 Yeah I agree with PEGS

  • @kizzagt
    @kizzagt 3 года назад +5

    Sounds like someone didn't pay attention to weimar republic or venezuela in 2018.

    • @PEGSInstitute
      @PEGSInstitute  3 года назад +12

      We're actually writing a video that covers those two, as well as Zimbabwe, and why they're not relevant examples for MMT.

    • @SensFan2002
      @SensFan2002 2 года назад +1

      @@PEGSInstitute That's pretty arrogant to think we are immune to a crisis similar to those countries just because of MMT.

    • @PEGSInstitute
      @PEGSInstitute  2 года назад +3

      Not arrogance at all. They simply don't apply ruclips.net/video/1U7t47toB5E/видео.html

    • @SensFan2002
      @SensFan2002 2 года назад +2

      @@PEGSInstitute relying on MMT is a dangerous game. It will come back to bite us if we abuse it.

    • @PEGSInstitute
      @PEGSInstitute  2 года назад +3

      That's not a danger unique to sovereign fiat currencies operating in a floating exchange. That's true of literally everything.