Fallout: New Vegas - Old World Blues - Part 2 - A Bed of Robo-Scorpions

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  • Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2024

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  • @EvilBurp
    @EvilBurp 4 года назад +790

    Heres a little factoid: the book chute identifies itself as unit 232.7.
    If you covert 232.7 degrees Celsius, you get Fahrenheit 451.

    • @medworthy
      @medworthy 4 года назад +159

      Also, the cage and mole rat comment which the book chute mentions is a reference to George Orwell's dystopian novel: 1984.

    • @EcsMurphy
      @EcsMurphy 4 года назад +20

      Whats Fahrenheit 451

    • @Erin-ks4jp
      @Erin-ks4jp 4 года назад +82

      @@EcsMurphy An excellent book by Ray Bradbury - set in a rather dystopian world. If you read it, you will see why it is appropriate for the book chute.

    • @legion999
      @legion999 4 года назад +29

      @@EcsMurphy a very famous book/movie about a dystopia where books are burned

    • @claytonparfumorse3101
      @claytonparfumorse3101 4 года назад +22

      @@Erin-ks4jp which, according to the author, is NOT about censorship. its about how the tv was destroying the books of the world.

  • @zipzorp9694
    @zipzorp9694 4 года назад +621

    Killing the robots in the test isn't a glitch, Stealth Suit comments on it. "Oh, that's too bad. Those robots would normally help defend us and the facility if we're attacked." and "We were never allowed to blow the robots up before. Cheating gives me such a thrill!"

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 4 года назад +124

      It also makes perfect sense as an intended thing in the game. It's a way to apply actual real world cleverness, which is something Obsidian has always done and is just good game design. It only feels weird because so many games RPGs these days force you to play them in a certain way and don't want you to think outside the box. Possibly because they don't want to properly test their games.

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 4 года назад +85

      It's also an RP choice, a very smart but not very physically adept character would probably try to do something like this while someone who is nimble would rather do the stealth test because they have no problem doing that anyways. It lets you make RP choices outside of dialogue which I appreciate.
      And it is extremely in character for Useless Steve to do this because he was literally the man that cheated and tricked his way through the Mojave. Though not because he was smart but more through dumb luck and confidence.

    • @HackionSTx
      @HackionSTx 4 года назад +7

      @@hedgehog3180 very lucky indeed, like ice screaming passwords at robots.

    • @boscojokey3829
      @boscojokey3829 3 года назад +2

      Its strange she says that first line because if the robots are alive when the roboscorpions show up the don't help defend you at all.

    • @gabrielbarron7667
      @gabrielbarron7667 2 года назад

      @@boscojokey3829 if you anger them after that they do but they do like nothing

  • @MrBones-td6qn
    @MrBones-td6qn 4 года назад +254

    "Higgs is completely safe"
    Me: *Gets ptsd flashbacks of the tiny Deathclaw in the Dog House*

    • @metetural9140
      @metetural9140 4 года назад +10

      What was his name... Scratch?

    • @harrybaldino8955
      @harrybaldino8955 4 года назад +6

      YUP

    • @YouTubecanfuckagoat
      @YouTubecanfuckagoat 4 года назад +29

      Mr. Bones
      If you head towards the fountain in the middle of the court, he shies away. A reference to not getting them gremlins wet

    • @Chris-mc2dt
      @Chris-mc2dt 4 года назад +3

      Mete Tural
      Spike

    • @Swanky11
      @Swanky11 4 года назад +13

      @@metetural9140 Stripe! Terrifying little thing

  • @trevoreklof1088
    @trevoreklof1088 4 года назад +486

    Never forget how the communist paper clip tried to assassinate the book chute

    • @poofbomb-minecraftmore1883
      @poofbomb-minecraftmore1883 4 года назад +29

      Trevor Eklof
      Never forget , never forgive.

    • @YouTubecanfuckagoat
      @YouTubecanfuckagoat 4 года назад +20

      Trevor Eklof
      Chinese communist paper clip. Chinese.

    • @Jon_the_Wizard
      @Jon_the_Wizard 4 года назад +28

      Those cowardly Reds tried to assassinate the loyal and honest Book Chute. We won't stop until every book in every one of their libraries has been purged of their filthy seditious material!

    • @killorbekilled4950
      @killorbekilled4950 4 года назад +2

      David Nevin communist

    • @MrVertigoStudios
      @MrVertigoStudios 4 года назад +8

      @Ned Ludd Also funny how the Book Chute holotape can be found in Dr. Klein's house in Higgs Village, which is numbered as #101.

  • @PirZixlay
    @PirZixlay 4 года назад +171

    Reposting my comment from last week, because at 1:10:26 Jon specifically drew attention to the fact Sneak wasn't working as he expected it to!
    "Putting points into Sneak probably isn't going to help Useless Steve much - it's a lesser known thing about New Vegas that Sneak isn't just a function of your sneak skill, it's also a function of your level relative to the enemy's level! If they outlevel you then they're really likely to spot you. It's why every single DLC seems to have weirdly perceptive enemies compared to the base game - they scale up with you so they're often equal to you or higher in level.
    But the game doesn't assume you're mad enough to run into a DLC
    at level 1. According to the Fallout wiki the minimum Lobotomite level is 25, so that's why every single Lobotomite in the world immediately charged you when you stepped outside. I doubt Useless Steve is ever going to hit level 25 so he's just going to be getting spotted by Lobotomites and Trauma Harnesses throughout the run whether or not he invests in Sneak. Remember the Tunnelers in Dust before you installed the Tunneler Fix mod that lowered their levels? It's the same problem here. I think you might actually attract less attention if you don't crouch."

    • @D.Jay.
      @D.Jay. 4 года назад +15

      He's gonna miss this comment as easily as he missed those laser trip wires

    • @BrutalFates
      @BrutalFates 4 года назад +4

      So what you are saying, all of those points are a waste and doing nothing?

    • @ManyATrueNerd
      @ManyATrueNerd  4 года назад +50

      Lobotomites, yes, but other enemies have lower level variants that can spawn - those having at least some sneak could assist with.

    • @PirZixlay
      @PirZixlay 4 года назад +9

      @@ManyATrueNerd I'm not sure how exactly the level scaling works on some of the OWB enemies - I think it's actually slightly bugged because there's meant to be lower level variants of Lobotomite that never spawn, and the Mk2 Robo-Scorpions that are meant to exist never spawn either which is why you ran into the Mk3s, which are also level 25. Can't find much information on the OWB Nightstalkers and Cazadores though. I know all the unique enemies like Super Ego are level 50 though.
      Either way though I hope my comment helped with explaining the mystery of why Useless Steve is *quite* so useless at sneaking in this DLC as he is!

    • @chrissimon5810
      @chrissimon5810 4 года назад +27

      @@ManyATrueNerd Old world blues
      Reposting my comment from last week, because at 1:10:26 Jon specifically drew attention to the fact Sneak wasn't working as he expected it to! "Putting points into Sneak probably isn't going to help Useless Steve much - it's a lesser known thing about New Vegas that Sneak isn't just a function of your sneak skill, it's also a function of your level relative to the enemy's level! If they outlevel you then they're really likely to spot you. It's why every single DLC seems to have weirdly perceptive enemies compared to the base game - they scale up with you so they're often equal to you or higher in level. But the game doesn't assume you're mad enough to run into a DLC at level 1. According to the Fallout wiki the minimum Lobotomite level is 25, so that's why every single Lobotomite in the world immediately charged you when you stepped outside. I doubt Useless Steve is ever going to hit level 25 so he's just going to be getting spotted by Lobotomites and Trauma Harnesses throughout the run whether or not he invests in Sneak. Remember the Tunnelers in Dust before you installed the Tunneler Fix mod that lowered their levels? It's the same problem here. I think you might actually attract less attention if you don't crouch."
      Comment by Pirzixlay
      MATN: Response: Lobotomites, yes, but other enemies have lower level variants that can spawn - those having at least some sneak could assist with.
      Consensus: I am going into Old World Blues to test this out to see exactly what the levels are for people in OWB, I entered OWB at Level 1, and left the Sink at level 2 I gave myself living anatomy and godmoded myself to go around unharmed to collect data. (I was tempted to NCL but i tried and a lot of triggers just snapped in half and decided not to trigger)
      Lobotomites: 25 → 35 → 50 with 136 HP at their lowest
      ALL ROBOTS MK3:, MK1s DO SPAWN, they have lower health, John However is getting MK3 Variants which have 375 health, and are Level 35
      IF A MK1 Spawns, it is level 25 with 225 health as it’s base.
      Using this info we can deduce that MK3 Variants are level 35, the health seems to be similar in some,
      A Mk3 Gutsy has the same health as a Mk3 Damaged Securitron that I just scanned after writing this.
      All unique ROBOTS (as far as i can deduce) are level 50 confirmed, I scanned Iron Belly and Super Ego, they all spawned with the health they are said to spawn with at level 50
      I found on the wiki that Mk1 and Mk1b Variants of the roboscorps do exist, and that they would be LEVEL 5 if they spawn, AND that Mk3s follow suit with the rest of the robots
      The numbers (Little Yhangzee Uniques) Have over 300 health, this implies at least a level of 30 if not 50
      Nightstalkers are a bit weird, they have a low level of 15 normally, but a level 15 variant has 110 health. These nightstalkers as I scanned at now level 2, have 226 health, indicating that they are either double level, or beefed up for just this DLC
      Trauma Harnesses all spawn at level 25, I was not able to cross check the health because of the name being so long but the wiki has been right so far in my cross checking so I am inclined to believe it.
      Sporeplant/Spore Monsters(?) Spawn at level 15 when normal, their health however was around 260 for me when at 15 they are 150. they are only in one location for each, and as per the usual their unique are both level 50 (Patient Zero and Dionaea Muscipula)
      Conclusion: Sneak is worthless Jon as 99% of the DLC scales to 10+ levels above your current one, I suppose you COULD take advantage of the lower level enemies with sneak 100, but that just doesn’t seem like it is going to happen if this person's comment is to believed.
      I did not test EVERY unique, and for some reason could not find a cyber dog. I did not figure out anything about The Think Tank itself, or Mobius.
      Cazadores I did not scan, but using these pieces of info (and the fact that cazadores are midgame enemies in the base game anyway) we can make a safe assumption that they will follow a similar pattern.

  • @scragar
    @scragar 4 года назад +165

    RE: sneak being bugged New Vegas had a bug where 50-100 sneak was useless because anything above 50 doesn't do any good. In order to counter this in old world blues, the marked men in lonesome road and a few other DLC characters cheat and apply a reduction to your sneak before calculating if you sneak around(marked men being the worst and applying a 70 point reduction meaning that even with 100 sneak you're never going to be better than 30 sneak as far as the game is concerned, although temporary buffs can still take you above 100 for the same of the ignored value).
    Useless Steve is being spotted so often because as far as the game is concerned for a lot of enemies he has 0 sneak and no useful perks like light step.

    • @hugmonger
      @hugmonger 4 года назад +3

      Is that marked out in like the Creation Kit or anyrhing?

    • @mat99rich
      @mat99rich 4 года назад +18

      That is mentioning that sneak has no effect on what kind of guns you can get past the frisks. The NPCs in old world blues and lonesome road just have higher perception than most enemies in the game. So they can see you from a long-distance making having high sneak the only thing that could see me was the legendary creatures in that DLC. Having sneak above level 50 is really the only way you can be actually hidden in this DLC. Now for the fact that he got caught in the simulation. I found out that based on your sneak in his case is about 52 the Robobrains only have to have a line of sight to see you for the test to be over. If you have sneak 100 you can be as close as a couple of meters right in front and they won't catch you but 50 as long as they catch you in their sight cone witch is around 180 degrees in front of them to get caught. But even though it only says that the NPCs have around 5~8 perception it is closer to 9~12 perception.

    • @eyeofevilgood8577
      @eyeofevilgood8577 4 года назад +20

      As far as i remember, there was also the fact that during making of both lonesome road and OWB they had set negative perception for some enemies- which in fallout speak is all the perception in the world.

    • @LordEdmund1973
      @LordEdmund1973 4 года назад +13

      Gotta love a good bit of negative integer overflow

    • @mr.braindead8151
      @mr.braindead8151 4 года назад +9

      Also, in dead money ghost people have 0 Perception, which then becomes infinite.

  • @andrewsalyer9658
    @andrewsalyer9658 4 года назад +341

    Jon stop going into stealth, your stealth (and level according to game calculation ) are so low that attempting to sneak makes you EASIER TO FIND than if you ran around without crouching. Same deal as the tunnlers from dust, they were due to a glitch in that case but in practice it is essentially the same

    • @sylveriron2575
      @sylveriron2575 4 года назад +98

      And the fact that when he sometimes sneaks, he has the pitboy light on. Which is this character in a nutshell.

    • @BradTheAmerican
      @BradTheAmerican 4 года назад +32

      @@sylveriron2575 ah yes, the Pit-Boy 3000

    • @lobstertown1826
      @lobstertown1826 4 года назад +23

      SylverIron 20 I do that all the time cause the light is so bad I don’t even notice it’s on

    • @BradTheAmerican
      @BradTheAmerican 4 года назад +14

      @@lobstertown1826 I love it when I think my light is on so I go to turn it off but then I blind myself with my portable wrist nova

    • @CommissarMitch
      @CommissarMitch 4 года назад +12

      This brings up an intresting question...
      At what point do Stealth become as useful as just walking/running?
      As in, where is the threshold of Stealth being useful?

  • @steveneccles
    @steveneccles 4 года назад +98

    Jon's perception being too low to notice the stealth suit saying hello, just *chef kissing fingers*

  • @zacharywolf5666
    @zacharywolf5666 4 года назад +148

    The major downside to the tarantula setting on the sonic emitter is that it uses up a full 3 cells per shot, whereas most of the other settings tends to be one or two, just something to consider

    • @scarletemperorrocky8900
      @scarletemperorrocky8900 4 года назад +4

      If you have the Vigilant Recycler Perk, that increases your chances of keeping the drained batteries instead of just throwing them away. Same goes for Hand Loader Perk.

    • @bubbadoo10
      @bubbadoo10 4 года назад +7

      @@D.Jay. Hahahahahah
      Trust me, you will see later in the video how much longer that ammo lasts.
      He at least has that 200 bulk ammo, but I dunno if he will resort to using that

    • @Gilhelmi
      @Gilhelmi 4 года назад +2

      @@D.Jay. he HAD a ton of ammo. He was burning through it rather fast in this episode.

    • @huguesdepayen1
      @huguesdepayen1 2 года назад +3

      Tarantula is the strongest weapon in the game actually, with the right guild you can literally one shot everything in the game including all the legendaries even the bloatfly and the giant robo scorpion. It’s special ability does more damage than anything else by a longshot especially with pyromaniac and better criticals it blows everything else away.

    • @stillamitchinmybook6320
      @stillamitchinmybook6320 2 года назад +3

      @@huguesdepayen1 really?? Never knew that.. I always thought the sonic emitter sucked.. liked I’ve used it alot to save on ammo but never seen it accomplished anything..

  • @ZakisHereNow
    @ZakisHereNow 4 года назад +193

    Jon, don’t use those pastes. They’re used for great healing items in the sink. Once you get the plants growing.

  • @J0hnzie
    @J0hnzie 4 года назад +152

    Useless Steve: *Warps through a prison wall using an outhouse to avoid detection*
    Also Useless Steve: "Those stealth boy rewards for running the stealth mission feel a bit cheat-y..."

    • @sirknave4794
      @sirknave4794 4 года назад +8

      DovahPug
      Useless Steve is not very consistent

  • @HypothermicIce
    @HypothermicIce 4 года назад +91

    Jon: "Why am I always running out of ammo?!"
    Jon: Hip-fires at all distances when the cursor isn't even on the enemy he's shooting at.

    • @sirknave4794
      @sirknave4794 4 года назад +1

      HypothermicIce
      No idea why

    • @hankscorpion
      @hankscorpion 3 года назад +1

      he refuses to use the proton ax or the saturnite fists...and build into melee or unarmed....in VATS is really effective

    • @ulyssesdamon3408
      @ulyssesdamon3408 2 года назад +1

      A long late answer to this. Because of Fallout 3 & New Vegas' aim assist, rather than snapping your crosshair to the target, it arcs the bullets towards the enemy. This gets better (and the described less weapons spread) the higher your guns or energy weapons skills. With Jon using an XBOX 360 controller (instead of a newer XB1 controller, which i believe he said feels too big or something.), the windows version of 3 & NV ported over the same 'tracking bullet' aim asistance if you plug in a controller.
      So, spraying at 1m - 10m or 100m from the target still means you can viably hit shots, the AI on the other hand also takes range into consideration, but is often worse than a player.
      Remember Jon has literal thousands of hours in 3 & NV, if it didn't work, i doubt he would do it. In YOLO he wont take many shots in V.A.T.S till theyre 80% or higher, even in the early game. Spray and pray here is just that it just doesn't matter if he gets hit, in a non YOLO run med items are plentiful, and trade for medicine is easy. Same goes for ammo. (Example, chewing through 5.56mm in FO3, just buying or trading 30-40 caps for 30-40 bullets from any and every vendor you see, in an hour or two you will have 1000-1500 rounds) Its a different era of game, not every round is precious, you just have to look around. (I assume Jon does, just cuts it. A 40ish minute video takes 2ish hours to record, theres alot we dont see.)

    • @LucyWest370
      @LucyWest370 Год назад

      @@ulyssesdamon3408 finally someone who actually notices that Jon is an actual competent player instead of just going “funny man low perception lololol”

    • @karenamyx2205
      @karenamyx2205 Год назад

      @@LucyWest370
      I'm kind of tired of the comments too. I guarantee they miss shots and items too, there is just no audience hyperfixating on it to point it out. And I'd like to see them try to do entertaining commentary to an audience at the same time, let's see their perception.

  • @CTRLXentertainment
    @CTRLXentertainment 4 года назад +210

    *Jon takes a single step out of the sink*
    "Now all of China knows you're here."

    • @egg494
      @egg494 4 года назад +3

      Dude you just copied this, I can see yours was 3 hours ago and the original was 5 hours ago, not cool dude

    • @CTRLXentertainment
      @CTRLXentertainment 4 года назад +11

      @@egg494 Doesn't surprise me. It would be a fairly common joke to make. I didn't read the comments. haha

    • @egg494
      @egg494 4 года назад +3

      Oh Okay, sorry dude, coincidences happen

    • @justinlynch9248
      @justinlynch9248 4 года назад +6

      @@egg494 He should change his name to CTRL-C

    • @coolguy-xd1bg
      @coolguy-xd1bg 2 года назад

      Are we still mad about this fellas?

  • @TheGrinningViking
    @TheGrinningViking 4 года назад +130

    Jon, a solution for your ammo problem:
    pick up normal bullets, sell them to the sink, buy more energy ammo. It restocks and you are sleeping to heal relatively often.

    • @RadeonX0X
      @RadeonX0X 4 года назад +6

      It takes forever to restock, unless you're actively sleeping the days away.

    • @tuxedoederminenaswall3751
      @tuxedoederminenaswall3751 4 года назад +7

      Or dont use the tarantula version because it uses multiple cells per shot

    • @TheGrinningViking
      @TheGrinningViking 4 года назад +8

      @@tuxedoederminenaswall3751 I'd be spamming sleep to restock the store and using science to make overcharged ammo as soon as possible in Jon's position. He needs any advantage he can get.

  • @sylveriron2575
    @sylveriron2575 4 года назад +101

    The scorpion from Goodsprings will have his REVENGE!!!

    • @EinFelsbrocken
      @EinFelsbrocken 4 года назад +19

      Personally Ive just called him "Goodstings" 😁

    • @metetural9140
      @metetural9140 4 года назад +1

      Shit now I've got black sabbath stuck in my head

    • @sylveriron2575
      @sylveriron2575 4 года назад

      @The Nova renaissance It's one scorpion, just controlling all of them at once like a hive mind.

  • @thehulkster9434
    @thehulkster9434 4 года назад +54

    Never underestimate the willingness of OWB to spawn/respawn enemies. You are never safe.

  • @danshive4017
    @danshive4017 4 года назад +62

    I've only just started the video, but having played Old World Blues myself in the past month... Books. He's bringing back books.

    • @michaelmoore6834
      @michaelmoore6834 4 года назад +4

      I started playing old world blues and new vegas again because of episode 1

    • @michaelmoore6834
      @michaelmoore6834 4 года назад +1

      @RS H Thats the one thing I don't like about new vegas. no matter how many times I play it I always find myself doing the same things over and over again. Jon gives me inspiration do try things differently

  • @thehulkster9434
    @thehulkster9434 4 года назад +96

    You're definitely going to want to get the auto-doc personality sooner or later. I know it's not safe, but you really need it. If you haven't finalized that decision, I'm just going to say, it's worth the effort.

    • @ManyATrueNerd
      @ManyATrueNerd  4 года назад +46

      I agree - but the plasma-armed unique bots in there are no joke. Potential stealth boy candidate.

    • @killorbekilled4950
      @killorbekilled4950 4 года назад +1

      Many A True Nerd might be want to raise the stealth a little more if you’re gonna go the stealth boy route

    • @krabz3391
      @krabz3391 4 года назад +1

      @@ManyATrueNerd I was level 30 with 100 in Guns and Melee and I was still having trouble, stealth boys are essential for your playthrough lol

    • @thehulkster9434
      @thehulkster9434 4 года назад +1

      @@killorbekilled4950 no need, stealth boys give +100 stealth, and it doesn't help to boost it above 100.

    • @thehulkster9434
      @thehulkster9434 4 года назад

      @@ManyATrueNerd it's no joke, even at higher levels. Stealth boys may be essential. But better to use a stealth boy than have crippled limbs for the rest of the run.

  • @dazdncnfusd6447
    @dazdncnfusd6447 4 года назад +49

    "I mean, the plan keeps going wrong..." That should be the channel description for your channel, Jon. But, we love you for it. LOL

  • @Silverhawk100
    @Silverhawk100 4 года назад +105

    *Steve walks out the front door*
    Steve: "I'M SNEAKING OUT THE FRONT DOOR!!!!"
    Everyone in the Big MT: "That ugly bastard."

    • @alexisauld7781
      @alexisauld7781 4 года назад +4

      Steve: *Yelling in person's ear* "YOU DON'T KNOW I'M HERE, RIIIIIIIIGHT!?!?!?"

    • @sirknave4794
      @sirknave4794 4 года назад +1

      Alexis Auld
      * trying to be kind to the “special” boy *
      Have you seen Steve?

  • @mateobonavento3939
    @mateobonavento3939 3 года назад +9

    As someone who's first time playing this DLC was with a melee oriented character, I loved seeing the antenna being essential for Jon's survival. The knockdown perk for melee attacks is awesome against those damn scorpions, even when there's many of them. That was the most fun I've had with this DLC. Gun characters were fun too, just not as much as that brute.

    • @yuuta6563
      @yuuta6563 2 года назад +2

      Yeah. From my experience, melee and unarmed builds are the most fun I've had playing this game when going for a battle oriented playthrough. Explosives are also really fun.

    • @brothir
      @brothir 6 месяцев назад

      *whose

  • @walnzell9328
    @walnzell9328 4 года назад +21

    Useless Steve: **Crouches**
    Every lobotomite in Big MT: I sense a disturbance.

  • @matthewlindsly389
    @matthewlindsly389 2 года назад +9

    John is the embodiment of “Make the plan. Execute the plan. Expect the plan to go off the rails. Throw away the plan.”

  • @bobsternolan
    @bobsternolan 4 года назад +57

    Jon, If you go to the light research facility you can get a headgear that gives you + endurance and health regeneration

    • @FilmsNerf2
      @FilmsNerf2 4 года назад +8

      AKA the best piece of headgear in the game.

  • @criticalmess34
    @criticalmess34 4 года назад +31

    Jon: All right, we need to spend time setting up, cheesing the system, and laying out land mines to defeat the Robo-Scorpions
    Useless Steve: Imma just hit them with a stick

  • @Linzielke2010
    @Linzielke2010 4 года назад +62

    34:00 still hasn’t said anything about the best video game character ever...........................the toaster

    • @isabellanoble1280
      @isabellanoble1280 4 года назад +15

      I disagree, the best character in this dlc is Muggy.

    • @egg494
      @egg494 4 года назад +4

      It's Gabe, he a good chonky boi. Poor Gabe....
      (At least for OWB)

    • @Linzielke2010
      @Linzielke2010 4 года назад

      Isabella Noble 2nd best the toaster is still the best

    • @Linzielke2010
      @Linzielke2010 4 года назад

      Egg I always feel bad for gabe

  • @chrissimon5810
    @chrissimon5810 4 года назад +17

    Im gonna post this comment I made about the data i compiled so other's can see it. I replied to someone about it so here it is for people who dont read replies.
    Old world blues
    Reposting my comment from last week, because at 1:10:26 Jon specifically drew attention to the fact Sneak wasn't working as he expected it to! "Putting points into Sneak probably isn't going to help Useless Steve much - it's a lesser known thing about New Vegas that Sneak isn't just a function of your sneak skill, it's also a function of your level relative to the enemy's level! If they outlevel you then they're really likely to spot you. It's why every single DLC seems to have weirdly perceptive enemies compared to the base game - they scale up with you so they're often equal to you or higher in level. But the game doesn't assume you're mad enough to run into a DLC at level 1. According to the Fallout wiki the minimum Lobotomite level is 25, so that's why every single Lobotomite in the world immediately charged you when you stepped outside. I doubt Useless Steve is ever going to hit level 25 so he's just going to be getting spotted by Lobotomites and Trauma Harnesses throughout the run whether or not he invests in Sneak. Remember the Tunnelers in Dust before you installed the Tunneler Fix mod that lowered their levels? It's the same problem here. I think you might actually attract less attention if you don't crouch."
    Comment by Pirzixlay
    MATN: Response: Lobotomites, yes, but other enemies have lower level variants that can spawn - those having at least some sneak could assist with.
    Consensus: I am going into Old World Blues to test this out to see exactly what the levels are for people in OWB, I entered OWB at Level 1, and left the Sink at level 2 I gave myself living anatomy and godmoded myself to go around unharmed to collect data. (I was tempted to NCL but i tried and a lot of triggers just snapped in half and decided not to trigger)
    Lobotomites: 25 → 35 → 50 with 136 HP at their lowest
    ALL ROBOTS MK3:, MK1s DO SPAWN, they have lower health, John However is getting MK3 Variants which have 375 health, and are Level 35
    IF A MK1 Spawns, it is level 25 with 225 health as it’s base.
    Using this info we can deduce that MK3 Variants are level 35, the health seems to be similar in some,
    A Mk3 Gutsy has the same health as a Mk3 Damaged Securitron that I just scanned after writing this.
    All unique ROBOTS (as far as i can deduce) are level 50 confirmed, I scanned Iron Belly and Super Ego, they all spawned with the health they are said to spawn with at level 50
    I found on the wiki that Mk1 and Mk1b Variants of the roboscorps do exist, and that they would be LEVEL 5 if they spawn, AND that Mk3s follow suit with the rest of the robots
    The numbers (Little Yhangzee Uniques) Have over 300 health, this implies at least a level of 30 if not 50
    Nightstalkers are a bit weird, they have a low level of 15 normally, but a level 15 variant has 110 health. These nightstalkers as I scanned at now level 2, have 226 health, indicating that they are either double level, or beefed up for just this DLC
    Trauma Harnesses all spawn at level 25, I was not able to cross check the health because of the name being so long but the wiki has been right so far in my cross checking so I am inclined to believe it.
    Sporeplant/Spore Monsters(?) Spawn at level 15 when normal, their health however was around 260 for me when at 15 they are 150. they are only in one location for each, and as per the usual their unique are both level 50 (Patient Zero and Dionaea Muscipula)
    Conclusion: Sneak is worthless Jon as 99% of the DLC scales to 10+ levels above your current one, I suppose you COULD take advantage of the lower level enemies with sneak 100, but that just doesn’t seem like it is going to happen if this person's comment is to believed.
    I did not test EVERY unique, and for some reason could not find a cyber dog. I did not figure out anything about The Think Tank itself, or Mobius.
    Cazadores I did not scan, but using these pieces of info (and the fact that cazadores are midgame enemies in the base game anyway) we can make a safe assumption that they will follow a similar pattern.

  • @VDGZR
    @VDGZR 4 года назад +12

    I love how Mobius rationalizes how Robo Scorpions spawn out of nowhere - he says he programmed them to essentially create themselves out of objects in the environment!

  • @jiveprism1446
    @jiveprism1446 4 года назад +9

    I love the 1 hour and 20 min video, a lot of movies this length and none of them are as entertaining as watching Jon nerd out over NV.

  • @AndRew-wu1lu
    @AndRew-wu1lu 4 года назад +71

    Elijah's advanced hairdryer might be the lowest item hp ever to exsist in the Fallout universe.

    • @RomanNomen
      @RomanNomen 4 года назад +22

      Because of how much I dislike Elijah's self-serving platitudes during the entirety of Dead Money, I'm referring to his LAER as his "advanced hairdryer" from here on out

    • @Therathmataz
      @Therathmataz 4 года назад +5

      I think a replica made of paper and hair pins would be more robust.

    • @djMacMahon
      @djMacMahon 4 года назад +10

      LAERdrier 🤣

  • @egg494
    @egg494 4 года назад +26

    "If you just murder them, they don't actually wake up again. So you can just basically murder everything that could be able to stop you" - Jon, 2020

    • @bitingapotato3277
      @bitingapotato3277 4 года назад

      Well, I mean, that's just solid advice in general, isn't it?

  • @clausberg8395
    @clausberg8395 4 года назад +12

    Useless Steve's big book of science has a lot of crayons paintings

  • @lasse6435
    @lasse6435 4 года назад +24

    24:00 useless Steve is so useless, he can get hit through an impenetrable force-field.

  • @redrune4314
    @redrune4314 4 года назад +41

    Legends say that Useless Steve wandered down an alley in The Strip, and events that (not entirely known to the universe) led Steve to strange lands called Boston.
    While in Boston events (not entirely known to Useless Steve) led Useless Steve to having a child. When asked what he would name the child, the useless man simply stated what he had eaten for breakfast.
    BACON.

    • @samreid6010
      @samreid6010 4 года назад +9

      redrune4314 I’d like to think that useless Steve and his relatives are responsible for all the action in the fallout universe. They aren’t usually the main characters, they’re just fumbling around in the background accidentally setting the dominos in motion. A distant cousin of useless Steve, Useless Richard, is a part of the commonwealth minutemen and accidentally tips the gunners off that they’ll be in Quincy, leading to the Quincy massacre. He then escapes and stumbles across the institute, accidentally freeing some synths, tipping off the railroad. Finally, far to the north of Boston, he finds a prewar vault where he can rest and bandage his wounds. In trying to fix himself up, he mortally wounds himself, causing a spurt of blood to fry a control panel. The last thing he hears before his life ends is “critical error, suspending cryogenic freeze”

    • @Chris-mc2dt
      @Chris-mc2dt 4 года назад

      Sam Reid
      Steve’s Great-great-great-etc grandpa was the one who accidentally sent Vault 13’s spare water chips to Vault 8

  • @TheZipperDragon
    @TheZipperDragon 4 года назад +3

    Anyone else notice that when Jon is doing a legit run, he plans pretty extensively & his more blunt plans usually fail...& in Useless Steve, he's literally beating enemies with a blunt object & it's working better than anything he's ever put his hands on?

  • @pitchforker3304
    @pitchforker3304 4 года назад +4

    I replayed Old World Blues just last month, it's a hoot seeing Useless Steve run through it. Awesome.

  • @anthonymonaghan4964
    @anthonymonaghan4964 4 года назад +8

    my wife was even worse doing the stealth suit tests ... she went upstairs and jumped down into the office from above bypassing the whole test fort the most part

  • @jazzyj7834
    @jazzyj7834 4 года назад +29

    So we're getting a Level 1 Naked Useless Pacifist Survival Dead Money run next, right?

    • @MrSnake-dh3hu
      @MrSnake-dh3hu 3 года назад

      All with Kill Everything No Kill JSawyer too, naturally.

  • @thevoidlookspretty7079
    @thevoidlookspretty7079 4 года назад +24

    Always remember:
    Pulse mines can be melee weapons.

    • @pyromasteralex
      @pyromasteralex 4 года назад +13

      Pro tip: if you need a fat mine but dont have the perk to make them you can just drop a mini nuke and put a frag mine next to it. works the same as a fat mine (but you have to deal with fallout physics)

    • @noahraab2429
      @noahraab2429 Год назад

      @@pyromasteralexthat’s fuckin awsome. Gonna try that

  • @Vikki_T
    @Vikki_T 4 года назад +7

    I'm actually loving the Useless Steve runs. Given the major ways that everything is stronger then you, you're doing surprisingly well.
    Also, watching him swing an enormous, goofy antenna is hilarious.

  • @fanusobscurus
    @fanusobscurus 4 года назад +32

    John, shoot the scorpions in the tail, thats where they have the least armor.

  • @mrcheesemunch
    @mrcheesemunch 4 года назад +33

    I feel like when Useless Steve gets to Lonesome Road, all the beatings he has taken should make him so shaky that he can no longer use guns.
    Feels like melee weapons never get enough love in your Fallout playthroughs and this would also up the challenge. Though there's more fun melee weapons in OWB of course.

  • @aaronfournier6688
    @aaronfournier6688 4 года назад +7

    there needs to be a mod where the VATS sound is changed to "oh shit here we go again" everytime you use VATS on a enemy

  • @5Andysalive
    @5Andysalive 4 года назад +11

    The Toaster and the lesser appliances make more than up for the somewhat limited world and gameplay in OWB.

  • @iank472
    @iank472 4 года назад +2

    Is it wrong that I love watching Jon's meticulously planned run unravel a little more each episode? Don't get me wrong I love the detailed knowledge Jon has of the modern Fallout games but it's wonderful to see him kept on his toes and trying to figure out a new plan on the fly.

  • @RadioactiveRabbit
    @RadioactiveRabbit 4 года назад +5

    I had an "Ohhhhh" moment when he said BOOOKS!
    I recently played through old world blues again and I just remembered the annoying paper shredder .

  • @theunheardvoice007
    @theunheardvoice007 4 года назад +28

    Useless Steve's and Confused Jon's adventures continue

  • @f00lzer04
    @f00lzer04 4 года назад +65

    Steve: *Takes step outside*
    Game: "Now all of China knows you're here."

  • @Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan
    @Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan 4 года назад +1

    You know you fucked up when, a critical only takes away one line of damage.

  • @МиколаТопало-к2й
    @МиколаТопало-к2й 4 года назад +23

    Roboscorpions: NO! We are the second level scorpions! We have more HP and DT/DR so you cannot just whack us dead with a ripped off anthenna!
    Useless Steve: haha zappy stick goes whack-smash!

  • @Ailslyn
    @Ailslyn 4 года назад +11

    Higgs Village is 100% safe, Jon says. What Jon may forget there is a mini-sized, but fully-damaging deathclaw in Gabe's doghouse, if you're toting Wild Wasteland.

  • @jodroboxes
    @jodroboxes 4 года назад +9

    A plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel.

  • @robblatt9120
    @robblatt9120 4 года назад +9

    *Useless Steve does anything*
    Useless Steve: (chuckles) I’m in danger.

  • @nssheepster
    @nssheepster 4 года назад +2

    My headcanon is that the stealth tests were meant to be observed by an actual person, so not ALL of the test was properly automated against cheating. After all, an actual observing human would notice that hey, the robots are all destroyed, so the automatic portions of the test don't account for that.

  • @NK-fh3st
    @NK-fh3st 4 года назад +3

    Anyone else find it surreal to watch Jon *willingly and purposefully* use healing items?

  • @arnoldjudassmegheadrimmer4344
    @arnoldjudassmegheadrimmer4344 4 года назад +4

    Thank you for another great video, Jon. I have always enjoyed Fallout New Vegas, and Old World Blues is my 2nd favorite DLC. Really enjoy the mad science theme, and collecting all of the voice characters is a blast. Especially the toaster. Love the maniacal toaster. Reminds me of Murray the Skull from Monkey Island. Thanks for the great video, Jon.

    • @Swagmansuperguy
      @Swagmansuperguy 4 года назад

      What is your favorite dlc

    • @arnoldjudassmegheadrimmer4344
      @arnoldjudassmegheadrimmer4344 4 года назад

      @@Swagmansuperguy
      My favorite DLC is Dead Money. I really enjoy the story, especially since Treasure of the Sierra Madre is one of my favorite films. The idea of either helping commit a heist or not is interesting. I know it's not everyone's favorite, but I always enjoy it. Old World Blues is a close second, followed by Lonesome Road and then Honest Hearts.

  • @kmg2480
    @kmg2480 4 года назад +33

    I never trusted those Think Tank brains. Gave off a stench like ivory tower elitism... And brine.

    • @samreid6010
      @samreid6010 4 года назад

      The Nova renaissance I mean, it could have been they tried to sterilize them with radiation and accidentally brought about a mutation

  • @gamingforever9121
    @gamingforever9121 4 года назад +3

    I remember a few years ago seeing an interview with the voice actress who did the voice for light switch 1 in old world blues she seemed like a pretty Chill person wish I could find the video.

  • @dragoon3266
    @dragoon3266 4 года назад +8

    Not related to OWB, but I was playing new Vegas and just discovered a stash of 20 pre war money in a suitcase in one of the ruined cars outside the Nevada Highway Patrol Station that I never knew existed. New Vegas still surprises me to this day.

    • @kmg2480
      @kmg2480 4 года назад +4

      That's a hallmark of a great game - Still finding new things a decade on from the game's release.

    • @gamesandglory1648
      @gamesandglory1648 4 года назад +4

      I think it implies the cop took a bribe

  • @souplord3320
    @souplord3320 4 года назад +2

    i like to think useless steve is just shouting about how hidden he is while crouching, alerting enemies that you would not normally have to worry about standing up.

  • @mattytemple2958
    @mattytemple2958 4 года назад +1

    this series is 10% fun explanations and interesting facts on fallout then 90% panic induced running and anxious walks

  • @daveherz998
    @daveherz998 4 года назад +4

    I'm actually very sad that there isn't more of this. Apparently I'm a junkie for Useless Steve

  • @NoOne-vy1jr
    @NoOne-vy1jr 4 года назад +7

    I love how he desperately tries to run from all his enemies but refuses to put his damn weapon away to go faster

  • @ancapftw9113
    @ancapftw9113 4 года назад +31

    Looks like you need to visit your cyborg girlfriend to get some free ammo.

  • @JB-xl2jc
    @JB-xl2jc 4 года назад +8

    Ahh, New Vegas melee- the most overpowered thing. Well, maybe not versus a max level perked out sniper. But melee is just damned good and stays damned good, pretty much forever.

    • @armando1is1great
      @armando1is1great 4 года назад +3

      Na it's definitely riot shotgun and associated perks :)

  • @SkyloftHero456
    @SkyloftHero456 4 года назад +7

    Jon: "The lightswitch is great"
    Me: Sure but the toaster is the best.

  • @etherraichu
    @etherraichu 4 года назад +1

    Jon, Old World Blues has a bug: "When entering the Big Empty at a low level, the enemies encountered and items carried by enemies may be the ones that are only supposed to appear for players level 20-30." That's why you're getting obliterated.

  • @Aware_Bear
    @Aware_Bear 4 года назад +7

    Your "Useless Steve" runs are my favorite

  • @BS-nw1qr
    @BS-nw1qr 4 года назад +1

    A fun challenge might be to play as Conan the Barbarian. In D&D terms he was a Barbarian/Thief cross-class.
    So, the focus would be on Stealth+Melee+Lockpick+Survival.

  • @markmiller2464
    @markmiller2464 4 года назад +1

    Good old useless Steve. Im so glad i found this as current content! Bought Fallout 3 based on your breakdown of it! Cheers!

  • @JimboMcBrostein
    @JimboMcBrostein 4 года назад +9

    In every Fallout video, when Jon states "I've got a plan!" it involves guzzling tons of booze xD

  • @jonhillman871
    @jonhillman871 4 года назад +1

    this is the best useless steve episode so far. lots of fun facts, nasty surprises, and violent epiphanies.

  • @seanthompson3163
    @seanthompson3163 3 года назад +3

    For some reason I alway thought the burned and damaged books didn't work in the book chute. I spent too much time looking for undamaged books

  • @asbestosfish_
    @asbestosfish_ 4 года назад +53

    I feel like Useless Steve has _exactly_ as much a grasp on scientific principles as The Think Tank.

    • @wind2536
      @wind2536 4 года назад +2

      AN UPLOAD? GOTTA COMMENT AS FAST AS I CAN

    • @seeknprotect6179
      @seeknprotect6179 4 года назад +5

      Science is like walking to them, but they keep walking of cliffs.

    • @legion999
      @legion999 4 года назад +3

      They have an amazing grssp on science, theyre just insane.

  • @NOPerative
    @NOPerative 4 года назад

    Old World Blues + Lonesome Road = player character beast daddy warbucks + awesome ED-E.
    Nice re-visit vid.

  • @Puremindgames
    @Puremindgames 4 года назад +1

    I like the book chute, he makes a lot of sense.

  • @Her_Imperious_Condescension
    @Her_Imperious_Condescension 4 года назад +2

    "Ah, it's my legendarily low perception." -Jon

  • @TheZipperDragon
    @TheZipperDragon 4 года назад +2

    24:00
    Everyone just hates Useless Steve. I imagine the moment Steve enters an area, every living thing feels a never ending rage that is only quelled by harming this man.

  • @peytongonavy
    @peytongonavy 4 года назад +1

    I wish more people knew you can get sent back to the Think Tank via pylons from the top of that Satellite dish. There's one spot that's just out of bounds.

  • @TheZipperDragon
    @TheZipperDragon Год назад +1

    Steve is always in danger because he's a danger to himself.

  • @BlueFlam3Z
    @BlueFlam3Z 4 года назад +1

    The x2 antenna saved my life as well, its surprisingly good against robots and i wasnt even doing a melee build.

  • @optical-archivechannel4478
    @optical-archivechannel4478 4 года назад +1

    Just remember Jon, Nightstalkers stop when they attack so as long as you keep running, they can't easily hit you. Useful for getting through the Hexcrete Archipelago

  • @Stephneechan
    @Stephneechan 4 года назад +5

    "I like it being purple and wibbly" ....

  • @gareth14111984
    @gareth14111984 4 года назад +1

    Stood beside medi-doc and yet talks about using doctors bag :D

  • @AgentofChaos315
    @AgentofChaos315 4 года назад +8

    Jon forgot the Sonic Emitter upgrades make it use more ammo.

  • @razzmodan8428
    @razzmodan8428 4 года назад +1

    I like to image that the reason useless steve Is so bad at stealth is less because of his poor sneak stat and more of him not realizing that shouting and narrating his own actions causes people to notice him and want him dead

  • @anondescript1134
    @anondescript1134 4 года назад +2

    Useless Steve in danger: Nothing around but crickets chirping

  • @CoffeePotato
    @CoffeePotato 4 года назад +1

    Local Scorpions in your area want to meet.

  • @PillowSnake87
    @PillowSnake87 4 года назад +3

    What's a Fallout run without Bloody Mess? Essential to any player.

  • @mediocrefunkybeat
    @mediocrefunkybeat 4 года назад

    I've played New Vegas on and off since about 2012 and have hundreds of hours wrapped up in it.
    I've never noticed that the radios are branded 'Radiation King'. There's so much depth in this game that they have even included an obscure Simpsons reference...

  • @Michael-Madrid
    @Michael-Madrid 4 года назад +10

    pity you don't use the wildwastland perk, picking up Gabe's bowl 9:48 would have been a different story :P

    • @ManyATrueNerd
      @ManyATrueNerd  4 года назад +5

      Luckily, that deathclaw has extremely limited roam-range, so you can just take a short walk back and he can't follow.

    • @LucyWest370
      @LucyWest370 4 года назад +3

      Many A True Nerd, well, it’s not just the roaming. The reason he has such a low roaming thing is because he’s scared of the fountain. I think.

    • @actuallykonradcurze6008
      @actuallykonradcurze6008 4 года назад +2

      @skywalkingstudios yes, as in Gremlins when stripe dies in the fountain, stripe the tiny deathclaw is afraid of the fountain.

  • @Abyssal_Renegade
    @Abyssal_Renegade 4 года назад +4

    sorry MATN but higgs village isnt 100% safe, if you have the Wild Wasteland perk there is a very very tough little Deathclaw that spawns at level 30 and has 850 HP i remember because the first tie i played through OWB he rekt me i was only able to defeat him by throwing piles of explosives at him.

    • @sylveriron2575
      @sylveriron2575 4 года назад +1

      So basically, how people kill deathclaws normally.

  • @victorbruant389
    @victorbruant389 4 года назад +34

    I don't know why, but I prefer Fallout 3 and New Vegas graphics and mechanics to 4 and 76.

    • @kmg2480
      @kmg2480 4 года назад +10

      I agree. New Vegas didn't feel graphically dated compared to other games of its time, but Fallout 4 most certainly did; not enough to bother me, but enough for me to notice it, definitely.

    • @lillymcabee8771
      @lillymcabee8771 4 года назад +4

      I like em all but 76 because it’s pay 60 for trash and to play that trash with the full experience you must pay 10 dollars a month

    • @rrs_13
      @rrs_13 4 года назад +6

      While New Vegas is definitely one of my favourite games all times, Fallout 3 is still my favourite of the series.
      Despite all of it's shortcomings, the storyline, the apocaliptic capital wasteland, all that made it more credible that I was in an post-apocalyptic world. In that regard, New Vegas just seems like a post-apocalyptic nightmare on LSD, which is cool, but doesn't grab me as much.

    • @victorbruant389
      @victorbruant389 4 года назад +4

      @@rrs_13 I totally agree

    • @NotAVeryGoodNickname
      @NotAVeryGoodNickname 4 года назад +2

      The enemies are abit bulletspongy in 4 and 76 amd in the latter it is a problem since sinking 400 rounds of .50 cal in one legendary enemy really hurts. Also three missiles and a mininuke. An all I got was a useless legendary.

  • @zuzoscorner
    @zuzoscorner 3 года назад +2

    beeping mines.
    Suddne dead money flash backs...

  • @aconcretemoth9382
    @aconcretemoth9382 4 года назад

    how many times have i watched jon play old wars blues

  • @nituldeshptha99
    @nituldeshptha99 4 года назад

    'Everything is under control' he said as he was surrounded by deadly robot scorpions

  • @etherraichu
    @etherraichu 4 года назад

    24:20 part of the dish extends out across the radar fence. You can just stand on the edge of the dish in the right spot and it teleports you back to the sink.

  • @Silverlance24
    @Silverlance24 2 года назад

    I know this is 2 years old, but my word the use of the word actually :D

  • @alexfaudel5245
    @alexfaudel5245 4 года назад +1

    3:01 I truly thought he was gonna say
    "I'm just that damn useless at steve"

  • @anumeon
    @anumeon 4 года назад +1

    Jon went back, because a mine is a terrible thing to waste.