In this video we take a look at the JTS AK platform 12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun. See the first rounds through this Chinese made fire-breather and my initial impressions of it.
AK shotgun fans - please note what he does at 11:12 of this video - he loads a FULLY loaded mag on a closed bolt! In his run because he only shoots 5 at first he does the full load on a closed bolt twice! Yes our gun can do that. The bolt is cut specifically to allow the full mag to be loaded on a closed bolt. We understand the gun on the surface looks like other AK shotguns, but there are a number of unique design features that separate us from the crowd. Great video. Really fun to watch shooters use the adjustable gas system and realize what a difference it makes.
I'm impressed, I bought four. Three plain Janes, and one tactical. One each for my wife, adult son, and brother. I kept the T-1 for myself. We are good to go. BTW both the wife and I are 68, and she's not into shooting as much as the rest of us. Bring on the Zombie's!!!
Great video. A few things. The best first step with the gun is to stripe the grease from the gun and then add CLP. The packing grease is very heavy and can slow down the action and can gum up gas port. Once you do that you will be good to go. When shooting powerful slug loads always turn it down to 1. This makes the gas adjustment a recoil management system. The felt recoil and muzzle rise will be reduced on the "1" setting.
Absolutely agree!! I stripped the AK all the way down and give it a really thorough cleaning and lube before heading out to the range. The JTS AK12 was Literally a night and day experience from every other semi-auto shotgun I’ve ever owned....In the best possible way
@@biggiebaby3541 The dust cover is removable instead of hinged (which makes cleaning less awkward), and the foregrip is obviously different. But the price is $150 more, so it seem like there's got to be more to it than just that.
Just got mine today!!! I can't wait to try it out!! This video is great in showing me about the failures and fixes and what ammo works best. Thank you for posting this video.
My basic M12AK is a beast. Runs anything. I polished and lubed it all first. I installed a carlsons tactical muzzle brake extra full choke and its even more fun.
@@beararmstactical7343 it can shoot steel up to 1550 and no slugs. All lead shot. I shot some 00 buck Winchester snd it was a nice tight pattern at 15 yards. Bout 6”
Good video. Realistic and to the point. I just ordered one of these and I'm super excited for it to come in. I was really surprised to find one for 340 in today's market so I couldn't pass it up. I've seen overwhelmingly good things about this shotgun.
I think you probably got the MK12, not the MK12-T1, which is about $550 currently. I'm still trying to figure out the differences, aside from the dust cover and the foregrip.
3” magnum ammunition should always be run on #1, this according to the manufacturer. #3 for low brass target and skeet and #2 for standard 2-3/4” shells. Mine runs excellently on these settings.
I baught ome yesterday i was skeptical but now after 5 boxes of cheap 00 buck im glad i baught it. It was super fun to shoot It might replace my pump for home defence.
Hey man, I got mine about 2 years ago and love it, I ordered a magwell adapter that allows me to put a 15 round drum on it. I got it from modmax hes a youtuber. I love my jts but the magwell really sucked at first nothing like a drum.
I don't get excited about guns . I have a mosberg for home defense because I was raised to keep a gun in the home and know how to use it . But I'd never call myself a "gun nut" But this! I want one !
I've done research on these guns and also own one. Must take gun apart clean out storage grease and regrease the gun with quality gun oil. FLAWLESS PERFORMANCE.. ALSO its better to break it in with high brass rounds.. Like the video said DO NOT RUN WIDE OPEN ALL THE TIME.
It basically allows you to tune the action of the shotgun so that it runs more efficiently. the higher the setting, the more gas is allowed to flow through the gas tube and compress the piston/recoil spring. Generally, the heavier the load in the shell, the less gas you need to capture for the gun to run properly. The manufacturer recommends using the lowest gas setting that will allow the gun to run and cycle properly. This will result in the most reliable and consistent operation as well as prolong the life of the recoil spring.
@@jayjoseph1065 Are you saying you only have used shells that are meant for the 3 setting too? It’s fantastic that it can be adjusted, but I’d rather stick to and maintain a consistent shell/setting. There wouldn’t be an issue with keeping the same setting 90% of the time would there? Given the same shell for same %90 of time. In regard to the mfg. warning about keeping it the same setting. I figured they meant that the same setting won’t work for every shell type. Like you said.
@@beararmstactical7343 ok thank you I seen on another video that you can put a hand grip with out the hand guard rail not sure how it looked like he had a scope ring on it lol
@@daddyfooyoung3052 the JTS has a longer receiver and a larger front trunnion. the effect is that it prevents stretching issues and aid feeding. They are pretty different shotguns
Great job on the video, very informative and exactly what I was wanting to see before I made the decision to buy. I am looking for one of these right now. Can you only find these guns online?
Got mine from Palmetto State Armory online and free shipping. Basic model was $329. Haven't taken it out to the range yet but i will be at the beginning of the year
I asked santa for one this year, but santa in my case is my wife and she mumbled something about "too many guns" and "credit card debt" and other unintelligible word salads no one understands.
It’s easier to lock the mags in place if the bolt is held open. Low brass stuff needs to be higher velocity.... over 1200 FPS to run reliably on setting 3... I’ve got hundreds of rounds through mine and it’s running way better with low brass shot shells
Im not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but why dont you just keep the adjustable gas block wide open on every load you shoot? That will take the guess work out of figuring out which setting works with different loads.
The hand guard furniture has the MLOK slots and a rail on top while the M12AK has the more traditional AK style hand guard and I believe the M12AK has a hinge on the Upper dust cover while the T1 does not. Other than that I think they are exactly the same
I don't understand why you would buy a gun without researching it (then you would know how to run it) and record a video showing its flaws. You would have ALREADY known to open the gas up ... Run slugs or high brassed HIGH VELOCITY rounds for the first 50 (to beeak in).
What do I tell my friend who won’t stop making the dumb joke about sawing off the barrel at the end? Besides that he’s not allowed to touch it. I doubt he’d feel the same if it was his shotgun.
I’d hold my phone up to my face in front of him, say something about the ATF and mention your friends name and address and that he wants to illegally modify a shotgun. Then say “oops did I say that out loud?” That ought to shut him up for a while 😂
@@beararmstactical7343 looks honest and transparent. Perfect for gun reviews. Please don’t ham it up or be anything else but straightforward and serious. I would bet @BP is a fan of, or alt account of, a different gun reviewer. Heck, could be the mfg. of a gun that received poor reviews and wants to blame the way you act for poor gun performance instead of the gun being what it is. 🤷🤷🤷 You also made the adjustments and ammo switches live while recording. Didn’t do anything “off camera and came back”. I stop watching any reviews as soon as that happens. Thank you very much for your time making this. I’ve never felt more secure in making a decision after the concerns I had before watching the video. I’m also impressed that you responded to @BP like you did. I only had two or three words come to mind after reading the comment, but I’ll follow your lead in keeping the peace.
@@m0ondoggy12 Much appreciated. I’ve always felt pretty comfortable in front of the camera, in part because I’m being genuine and honest. The last thing I’d ever want to do is intentionally misrepresent anything...I think we get enough of that from media already😎
Even though this shotgun is based on the AK platform it does not load like an AK. If you notice there is a plastic magwell attached to the receiver. He is loading it correctly.
Man you are a mess-I’d wanna be behind a concrete bunker if you and I were on the same range together. Also, you really need to *know* your weapon before you make videos with it.
okay, i got it to move, but I dont know what setting it is on, is the lines, on the knob facing the 3 nbr,,, the correct way or the small curve that is not marked on the number?/
AK shotgun fans - please note what he does at 11:12 of this video - he loads a FULLY loaded mag on a closed bolt!
In his run because he only shoots 5 at first he does the full load on a closed bolt twice! Yes our gun can do that. The bolt is cut specifically to allow the full mag to be loaded on a closed bolt. We understand the gun on the surface looks like other AK shotguns, but there are a number of unique design features that separate us from the crowd. Great video. Really fun to watch shooters use the adjustable gas system and realize what a difference it makes.
Wish yall would make the ak to ar adapter for this version or a list or after market stocks that bolt right up
It needs to have bolt open after the last shot fired.
now can you change out the buttstock to more of a folding stock with out having to drill in to back plate
I'm impressed, I bought four. Three plain Janes, and one tactical. One each for my wife, adult son, and brother. I kept the T-1 for myself. We are good to go. BTW both the wife and I are 68, and she's not into shooting as much as the rest of us. Bring on the Zombie's!!!
Is there any way to mod the M-lok railing on the standard model AK-12??
Great video. A few things. The best first step with the gun is to stripe the grease from the gun and then add CLP. The packing grease is very heavy and can slow down the action and can gum up gas port. Once you do that you will be good to go. When shooting powerful slug loads always turn it down to 1. This makes the gas adjustment a recoil management system. The felt recoil and muzzle rise will be reduced on the "1" setting.
Absolutely agree!! I stripped the AK all the way down and give it a really thorough cleaning and lube before heading out to the range. The JTS AK12 was Literally a night and day experience from every other semi-auto shotgun I’ve ever owned....In the best possible way
I ran 10 non-sabot high brass slugs, 2 3/4 on setting 1 right out of the new box. No issues.
What is different about the T1 as compared to the standard model?
@@biggiebaby3541 The dust cover is removable instead of hinged (which makes cleaning less awkward), and the foregrip is obviously different. But the price is $150 more, so it seem like there's got to be more to it than just that.
I don’t “stripe” grease.
By far best on the market! Haters will hate because they paid double, or in some cases triple for one that won’t run everything 😂
Great shotgun 👌🏼
Definitely can’t beat it for the price
199 psa today
Still breaking on mine, I'm about at 100 rounds with the same model....No shells
below 1250 velocity. NOOOO MALFUNCTIONS whatsoever 👍🏾
Glad to hear it!!
Just got mine today!!!
I can't wait to try it out!!
This video is great in showing me about the failures and fixes and what ammo works best.
Thank you for posting this video.
You’re welcome!
I have the same M12 AK and love it!!! Light loads gas on 3 heavy slugs on 1. Runs like a champ!! Shocking really for the price I paid!! Great video!!!
My thoughts exactly! I had almost given up on semi auto shotguns until I found the JTS M12😎
This is such a newbie question but can you explain a light load vs a heavy load? Where’s the line??
@@shanewags2035 Light load=Bird shot, Heavy load=Slugs or double 00 buck
@@edyoung6573 so if I’m understanding this right the heavy load gas adjustment would be 1-2 and the lighter load 2-3. Does that sound about right?
@@shanewags2035 yup you got it!!!
Hey JTS.......love you guys. I have always wanted a 12 ga. And you came thru. At one hell of a price I might add.
Thanks for video viewing the jts 12 gauge ak style model for to watch. Seems relatively a wise buy for the money and safety again thanks.
My basic M12AK is a beast. Runs anything. I polished and lubed it all first. I installed a carlsons tactical muzzle brake extra full choke and its even more fun.
That Brake sounds awesome! I think I’m going to pick that up and try it out.
Next video will be testing out the factory JTS 10 round mags😎
@@beararmstactical7343 it can shoot steel up to 1550 and no slugs. All lead shot. I shot some 00 buck Winchester snd it was a nice tight pattern at 15 yards. Bout 6”
@@beararmstactical7343 I have a factory 10 round mag and it fed fine.
@@beararmstactical7343 carlsons part # 84027
@@beararmstactical7343 that’s me just signed in differently unintentionally. ^^
Just got 1 a few weeks...absolutely love it
That’s awesome!
Good video. Realistic and to the point. I just ordered one of these and I'm super excited for it to come in. I was really surprised to find one for 340 in today's market so I couldn't pass it up. I've seen overwhelmingly good things about this shotgun.
Nice!! Can’t wait to hear your feedback on it!
I think you probably got the MK12, not the MK12-T1, which is about $550 currently. I'm still trying to figure out the differences, aside from the dust cover and the foregrip.
@@TimG... Nope. It's the T1 with the mlok handguard. As far as I know the only differences are the handguard and dust cover.
@@xsboost25psi I can see why you didn't pass it up then! I just can't see paying $550 for the T1.
@@TimG... of course that was the listed price. With tax and shipping it was closer to 390. Recoil gunworks has the T1 on their site right now for 329.
3” magnum ammunition should always be run on #1, this according to the manufacturer. #3 for low brass target and skeet and #2 for standard 2-3/4” shells.
Mine runs excellently on these settings.
I can never understand how ppl throw their magazines in the dirt and expect their arms to run correctly
Good point...However, a tiny bit of dirt in the action should NOT cause severe malfunctioning on a quality weapon system though.
I baught ome yesterday i was skeptical but now after 5 boxes of cheap 00 buck im glad i baught it. It was super fun to shoot
It might replace my pump for home defence.
Hell yeah!
Hey man, I got mine about 2 years ago and love it, I ordered a magwell adapter that allows me to put a 15 round drum on it. I got it from modmax hes a youtuber. I love my jts but the magwell really sucked at first nothing like a drum.
That’s awesome! I feel like id blow through way too many shells if I modified it to accept a drum😂
Picked one up for $249 on clearance. First thing was to strip it down and get the factory coating off and lube it up.
I wish My JTS 12 AK had the same hand guard as that one. I have a stock adapter so i can put a AR-15 buffer tube and six position stock on it.
I don't get excited about guns .
I have a mosberg for home defense because I was raised to keep a gun in the home and know how to use it .
But I'd never call myself a "gun nut"
But this! I want one !
You won’t regret it
I ran gas seting 1 with some 1450 fps blackace steal buck ran great on 1
Nice review. Looks like a lot of fun!
Better than my VEPR 12. I own both and the JTS is better.
I've done research on these guns and also own one. Must take gun apart clean out storage grease and regrease the gun with quality gun oil.
FLAWLESS PERFORMANCE.. ALSO its better to break it in with high brass rounds.. Like the video said DO NOT RUN WIDE OPEN ALL THE TIME.
Having a closed mag well on an AK is definitely weird. I see JTS commented here, that would be the #1 thing to change!
I ordered one but I'm confused about the gas block can someone give me a short discription on what is is for and hoq to use properly
It basically allows you to tune the action of the shotgun so that it runs more efficiently. the higher the setting, the more gas is allowed to flow through the gas tube and compress the piston/recoil spring. Generally, the heavier the load in the shell, the less gas you need to capture for the gun to run properly. The manufacturer recommends using the lowest gas setting that will allow the gun to run and cycle properly. This will result in the most reliable and consistent operation as well as prolong the life of the recoil spring.
I've found with mine that this thing can run anything with the gas on 3
3 seems to be the magic number for me as well!
Mine won’t run Winchester on 3
@@cristiancastillo3125 yes some shells call for a gas change for sure
@@jayjoseph1065 Are you saying you only have used shells that are meant for the 3 setting too?
It’s fantastic that it can be adjusted, but I’d rather stick to and maintain a consistent shell/setting. There wouldn’t be an issue with keeping the same setting 90% of the time would there? Given the same shell for same %90 of time.
In regard to the mfg. warning about keeping it the same setting. I figured they meant that the same setting won’t work for every shell type. Like you said.
Lynx 12 next
Hey do you think it’s worth the extra money the $100 extra for the one with the m lok hand guard rail?
That probably would depend on if you planned it kitting it out with optics, lights, sling mounts foregrips, etc. if not
then probably not...
@@beararmstactical7343 ok thank you I seen on another video that you can put a hand grip with out the hand guard rail not sure how it looked like he had a scope ring on it lol
@@beararmstactical7343 would you rather this jts or the sds bull dog ?
@@daddyfooyoung3052 the JTS has a longer receiver and a larger front trunnion. the effect is that it prevents stretching issues and aid feeding. They are pretty different shotguns
You can change the stock with all after market stocks with the T1 mlok model
The only shotgun i like better is the BenelliM4 self-regulating load whatever and unload away.
Jts needs to get some of those chinese pw87 back into america
Great job on the video, very informative and exactly what I was wanting to see before I made the decision to buy.
I am looking for one of these right now. Can you only find these guns online?
I actually found mine at a local gun shop... i’m sure your favorite place could order them if you ask!
Just got one today from a local range
@@chriswhite2063 score!!
Got mine from Palmetto State Armory online and free shipping. Basic model was $329. Haven't taken it out to the range yet but i will be at the beginning of the year
@@greasemantexas9159 I think you’ll be impressed, especially for $329
I asked santa for one this year, but santa in my case is my wife and she mumbled something about "too many guns" and "credit card debt" and other unintelligible word salads no one understands.
Leave it on 3 for everything
It’s easier to lock the mags in place if the bolt is held open. Low brass stuff needs to be higher velocity.... over 1200 FPS to run reliably on setting 3... I’ve got hundreds of rounds through mine and it’s running way better with low brass shot shells
Good input! I suspect you could get the same effect by loading one less shell into the mag but who wants to do that?😜
Im not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but why dont you just keep the adjustable gas block wide open on every load you shoot? That will take the guess work out of figuring out which setting works with different loads.
Because powerful loads like slugs will destroy the action quickly if it's wide open. Different loads, different cycling pressures.
How is JTS about parts?. Like firing pins?. Have to buy parts from them and them alone OR 3rd Parties available?
Whats the difference btw this model and not T1 model?
The hand guard furniture has the MLOK slots and a rail on top while the M12AK has the more traditional AK style hand guard and I believe the M12AK has a hinge on the Upper dust cover while the T1 does not. Other than that I think they are exactly the same
@@beararmstactical7343 so both models take the same magazines?
@@devinsg2011 yes they do
The people I’ve watched say the original is actually better.
What the best ammo for it ?
It depends on what you’re doing…Fiocchi Shooting Dynamics 2 3/4” 1200fps Target loads have been really fun and lightning fast on gas setting 3..
Strange mine cycled 100 straight 🤷🏻♂️
Once I got it dialed in it ran like butter. Check out my video with the 10 round mags. Smooth as silk!
@@beararmstactical7343 Apparently mine was so smooth because I got it from my friend
he said that it ran a little shaky at first brand new
These legal to own in California?
Is there a replacement dust cover with a rail available for this?
Just get the original JTS. It has a picatinny rail on the dust cover.
@bigbadjohnpesek9894 I prefer this handgaurd but the other dust cover
I'm not sure if they can be swapped out. I only have the original JTS.
Chinese? Oh man you're brave
Why do all these guys use their left hand to charge the gun? They've been corrupted by shooting ARs.
Set it to 3
set it to 1 for slugs
set it to 2 for buckshot
set it to 3 for birdshot
Nice breakdown
If you’re not shooting thousands of rounds just leave it on 3
I don't understand why you would buy a gun without researching it (then you would know how to run it) and record a video showing its flaws. You would have ALREADY known to open the gas up ... Run slugs or high brassed HIGH VELOCITY rounds for the first 50 (to beeak in).
I pump 10 out in less the 4 secs
Nice!
Check my other video I do 11 in about three seconds and 10 and under three
What do I tell my friend who won’t stop making the dumb joke about sawing off the barrel at the end?
Besides that he’s not allowed to touch it. I doubt he’d feel the same if it was his shotgun.
I’d hold my phone up to my face in front of him, say something about the ATF and mention your friends name and address and that he wants to illegally modify a shotgun.
Then say “oops did I say that out loud?”
That ought to shut him up for a while 😂
@@beararmstactical7343 damn, that works on multiple levels. Thank you very much.
I have one of these. Very finicky on shells. Cheap gun
1 is for slugs and hot loads
Can you remove that god awful mag well
Some people do, I just used a Dremel to trim mine down. Now Saiga drums fit and run fine.
Poor guy looks very uncomfortable. I don't think instructing is his gig.
Thanks for the feedback! I’ll try to be more bubbly next time😎
@@beararmstactical7343 looks honest and transparent. Perfect for gun reviews. Please don’t ham it up or be anything else but straightforward and serious.
I would bet @BP is a fan of, or alt account of, a different gun reviewer. Heck, could be the mfg. of a gun that received poor reviews and wants to blame the way you act for poor gun performance instead of the gun being what it is.
🤷🤷🤷
You also made the adjustments and ammo switches live while recording. Didn’t do anything “off camera and came back”. I stop watching any reviews as soon as that happens.
Thank you very much for your time making this. I’ve never felt more secure in making a decision after the concerns I had before watching the video.
I’m also impressed that you responded to @BP like you did. I only had two or three words come to mind after reading the comment, but I’ll follow your lead in keeping the peace.
@@m0ondoggy12 Much appreciated. I’ve always felt pretty comfortable in front of the camera, in part because I’m being genuine and honest. The last thing I’d ever want to do is intentionally misrepresent anything...I think we get enough of that from media already😎
OMG Learn to load an AK ("rock and lock")... stop trying to shove the mag straight it in like an AR ya noob.
Even though this shotgun is based on the AK platform it does not load like an AK. If you notice there is a plastic magwell attached to the receiver.
He is loading it correctly.
It’s not as easy as it looks😉
That being said, pick one up and you’ll love it. You’ll also understand what I mean..
I’m not buying this junk
Man you are a mess-I’d wanna be behind a concrete bunker if you and I were on the same range together. Also, you really need to *know* your weapon before you make videos with it.
Ohhhhk buddy.
Have another drink on me sir, what’s your Venmo? I’m buying 😂😂
okay, i got it to move, but I dont know what setting it is on, is the lines, on the knob facing the 3 nbr,,, the correct way or the small curve that is not marked on the number?/
I Have the same gun, but I cant adjust the gas, it wont spin, how do you spin it?