Would you mind replying with the title for the first book on the suggestion list? I know you said the first title(this one I'm missing), then Of Blood and Bones, and then Utterly Wicked. I know you said it a few times I just never quite caught it 😅
I absolutely love baneful protection. I've created my grimoire in such a way that I've built this cursed book system "He who reads this book without my witches word be hexed till ones confess" in big words on the first page sigils and all. I've had nosey ass people fall on their faces near seconds after putting down my grimoire. I once had a sibling come up to me to apologize because all these things were happening to them I asked "why are you sorry?" they replied "I read your book..." Some say it's wrong to do harm to family, I agree but my family crosses the line at snooping through my things without my consent. Fuck around and you'll find out.
If it's wrong to protect yourself, then I don't wanna be right. I have basically the same thing in my grimoire's with the literal phrase "fucker, don't test us" at the bottom of each of the front pages, a phrase I've lived by for decades .
I love that you covered the "baneful blessing" aspect. Intention is everything. I know a lot of love and light practitioners that don't even consider that their workings will have painful consequences.. not all lessons are learned the easy way. If you send someone an "error of your ways" type lesson, that totally falls into baneful magic. I personally don't see anything wrong with that as long as you understand what you are actually doing and take responsibility for it. The universe pays attention, and people can only dismiss their actions for so long before what they put out comes back home.
Unless you don't believe in Karma or believe you transcend karma. It works! Your guilt causes your "punishment" to manifest. If you don't feel guilty, there is no punishment. Dark energy doesn't have a moral code. "As above, so below. Do as thou wilt." That's how narcissists seem to never pay for anything, because they believe they're above it, therefore, they are. It's a code for mortals and we are not that. Unless you want to be. I've learned to look at myself as a goddess and instead of worshipping dieties, BECOME the diety, harness their energy and make it yours. That's the next level after "witch", the level after Goddess is a Spiritual Alchemist
For anyone working with Judeo/ Christian folk magic, a REALLY old form of baneful magic is the imprecatory psalm. Basically, you have a rant session to your deity about your issue at hand (person, thing, doesn't matter). Your deity cherry-picks the fine points of your rambling hex/ curse, and applies them justly as needed. It's a poetic, creative way of weaving your baneful magic. Think slam poetry, stream of consciousness cursing, essentially. King David was INFAMOUS for this practice, and it's pretty potent stuff. Literal chunks of the Psalms are these curses dedicated to Y*HW*H. Pretty wild stuff.
@@gabrielleangelica1977, did you read the whole Bible, and my comment? I do not think you are familiar with imprecatory psalms. You know, the ones in which King David is literally, not figuratively, cursing people.
@@rachelselima2609 Yes I read EVERY word from Genesis to Revelations! Judaism NEVER condones negative magick. They had the book before you. Saul was punished for it.
@@gabrielleangelica1977, firstly, not they, WE. Secondly, you need to check your reading comprehension. Look up the definition for imprecatory psalms. Re-read the part where Kung David literally curses people. You seem to be missing some basic information, on some quest to argue something that is a fact you do not seem to understand or agree with. Not my problem. Take a deep breath, and read again.
I did "baneful" protection spells using a dollar compact mirror against two threatening male bosses after I went to an attorney and HR. The "crossroads" were the underground sewer at the 4- way stop sign. It reflected back anything that they were intending toward me. BTW it worked 🖤🤟💯
I'm Lakota Sicangu, and I've heard of elders talk about 'bad medicine.' Which may be their version of baneful magic. But I've also grown up with the belief that people who do bad things will eventually be turned on by what they surround themselves with. Like for example, someone who's a pipe-carrier. If someone who carries a pipe with them starts doing things that aren't holy or aren't good to others, we just leave them be and protect ourselves, because we believe that eventually, the pipe will "bite them back" XD. Very vague teachings. But I'm still learning myself. Growing up on the rez still doesn't mean I've learned everything yet, I still need to reach out to the right people. Great video though, Frankie! Your latest stuff is really intriguing ^^
I think its also important to remember that we have to always be careful when we have active altars that are open sources of magic. Baneful works may happen without us consciously doing them, if we already have a working altar that we use for other kinds of spells. Because such an altar is essentially like a tap, which is your source of power and an anchor to all of your spells. And if you have a really strong negative emotion against them long enough, it can actually manifest into baneful magic without you consciously casting a hex or putting a jinx or cursing someone by doing a full fledged working.
The worst I've done was a binding spell as far as baneful goes. Basically restricting a frat bro-type from harassing my friend (this was harassment that involved reports and a title 9 complaint to the school so not a petty issue) and also binding him to his own choices. I think that's kind of baneful-domination rather than pure baneful. It worked, he moved out of the building within a week of doing the spell. It's a little bottle and knot spell that I keep on my altar and shake when I see it. When my friend is done with the college I'll undo the spell.
I agree with what olivia said about learning baneful magick even if you aren't comfortable doing it. I recently had this conversation with my mum and my sister. I personally don't use baneful magick, because I have never been in the position to want to or felt the need to, however I have still researched it and wrote things down for knowledge purposes. thanks for making a cool video on the topic. Lots of love from the UK
I think it is important to acknowledge that witches who don't do any baneful magic (in whichever form, even if badmouthing, gossiping and being jealous) are harmless. My craft grew in power since I allowed myself the knowledge and the ability to do baneful crafts.
Love this! I have a couple tips: -I knit, crochet, embroider etc. Whenever I'm making something for a specific intention (like protection and blessings, which I do whenever I make things for my niece and nephew), I try to choose a color that corresponds with my intention and then I simple speak a blessing/intention over my materials at the beginning of the project. Works a dream. Cleansing for wearables is especially easy because the yarn I use is machine washable -While substitutions can be dicy, I highly recommend substituting nightshade with other kitchen items in the same genus, like tomatoes or bell peppers; unless of course you're allergic to them. In fact, I have a private theory that the reason for the prevalence of chili peppers and tobacco in baneful folk workings might be due in part to the fact that these plants are all nightshades. I prefer apples myself, because of the whole cyanide in the seeds thing, but to each their own!
I love when both of you get together to make videos I love both perspectives, everytime frankie talks about the lemon hex that fell in the gutter it reminds me of something I did in like 2nd grade I didn't Identify as a witch and didn't know much of what I was doing but also did its weird, but I drew a picture of this boy that was mean to me (very poorly drawn I might add) and I got a pencil and stabbed it on the face, and the next day he came in with acne on his face in the exact places I stabbed, I'm like embarrassed of this but also find it so hilarious. I mean luckily nothing bad bounced back to me
Instead of sending energy back to sender, I like to send that energy to power a baneful ward. They wanna send me energy, I'm not gonna give it back, I'll use it to boost my protections and they'll continue to waste their energy with nothing in return. If they wanna continue to fuck around, they're gonna find out when they hit the newly powered-up ward. I got the idea from the spell to "transmute" the ickiness from Utterly Wicked, but figured if there's stuff coming my way, it's a good time to up my protection, and might as well make use of the energy that's directed at me anyway.
in regards to the venn diagram, i would absolutely classify chord cutting as a "domination hex" as it has the dominating aspect of forcing someone/their energy away from you and it hexes them by preventing them from having access to you regardless of how much they want that
Did a mirror spell once to show a person how they were acting and making others feel…..so much energy expended, gave me a headache and I felt exhausted afterwards. But it worked! This stuff should not be done lightheartedly. But is needed sometimes!
I don't see myself ever needing to do baneful work, but it's still something I want to learn more about - especially breaking curses. It's such an interesting side of magic.
I love this discussion of baneful protection/blessings! I actually was unaware of that classification before despite kind of having that effect imbued in my threshold protection so I guess that “and stay out!” vibe is strong with me I keep up a braid above my door that cleanses people walking under it and bounces and scatters that “sticky energy” that clings or sneaks in with them back out! I personally don’t believe in conscious entities that I’m like hexing there but I’m intentionally trying to make that energy turn to dust outside my door :)
Hi Ms. Frankie, I was wondering if you could put “plant correspondences” on the queue of videos to make in future? I don’t mean herbs or trees, I mean like you know, using Aloe Vera for wards or healing. I watched your revisiting protection video and you said helpful stuff about it, but maybe if you could turn me towards info or a book that talks about that more i’d really appreciate it, since I want to get into that. Thanks!
Wow, what a synchronizity. Just a few days ago I started looking into baneful magic, because I'm considering to hex someone, because a healing spell for unhealed aspects of myself doesn't seem to cover it this time. And now this. My favorite RUclipsrs doing a video on this topic. 😍 Really looking forward to watching the video!! I really like the part about baneful blessings and baneful protection. That's something I want to learn more about. Something that you didn't cover, but I read about in one of the books you've suggested (I think it was Grovedaughter Witchery), is baneful magic that depends on the target and specific actions the other person does, would trigger the baneful magic. If they don't do the action then they will not experience any baneful magick. Thanks for everything, it's a great video, that I will rewatch for sure. Have fun together, Olivia and Frankie. See you in the next one.
@@krystalschrand4256 That's right, thank you, Krystal. I'm actually not sure how to use they/them pronouns in English, since I'm not a native speaker. But I'll look it up until my next comment. 🙋♀️ Important topic to address. I identify as a female and I'm also pansexual. ✨ A couple of years ago, my husband told me that there was a different word for my sexuality than I used. Very interesting. 🙂
I'm a beginner and read your book Spells for Change (absolutely loved it), I kept remembering when you mentioned these topics in your book! Just makes me so happy that I'm learning so much from your content, tysm for everything you do 😊✨ Alsooo love it when you both do colabs together!!
Interesting point you brought up about hexing and jinxing. we are often doing this to each other all the time without knowing it. I have several nero-divergent friends in my life and I have to make sure I am always in good relationship with them. There ability, or tendency, to spiral into hyper focused negativity about me (if I have hurt them in some way) has proven to be VERY destructive in my life. I learned a few year ago about autistic children's power to accidentally create tulpas or poltergeists because of their potent inner thought patterns. It was a stark reminder of the power of the mind, especially from those among us that are gifted without knowing it.
Could you do a video on the origins of witchcraft one day? I've been practicing for about a year but I've struggled to find any definitive information on where witchcraft began. Obviously it's evolved over the centuries but it doesn't sit right with me that I'm so passionate about a practice without even knowing who started it. If not a video, would you know any resources that would provide this info?
The trouble is that witch craft has evolved over a long time - from shamanistic practices, folk magic, there are even some religious practices now categorised by some as witchcraft (think catholic incense burning). If you want to look at the development of more organised practices (like wicca), I suggest researching occultism during the later 1800s and throughout the 1990s, with stuff like the development of the order of the golden dawn (I think it was called). But if you prefer more kitchen/eclectic/hedge/green/hearth-based practices, it becomes much trickier to track. You could study the causes of the witch burning, and the wise women type people who existed more before them. Also, you could look into the evolution of hoodoo and voodoo type practices, especially during the era of slavery and after. Bottom line is, there is no comprehensive timeline for witchcraft because witchcraft as we know it today has evolved from hundreds of practiced, religions, etc. The was no ONE PERSON who FOUNDED EVERYTHING, so don’t think about it that way. It’s like cooking - there wasn’t a single discoverer of how to make desserts, it was many different people, whose ideas all contributed to something that we now have a name for. However, if you are a Wiccan, or belong to another organised group, I suppose you could just use the founder of that group or theory, though you can always go farther back. Maybe this helped, maybe it didn’t, I have no idea. Sorry it’s so long.
omg witch of wanderlust was one of the first witchy channels I subbed to years ago when I started looking into magic! also, what funny timing that this popped up on my page, Loki has been pushing me to lean into chaos and dabble in baneful magic/baneful protections and stuff lately, and then boom this appeared!
Great video. Thank you for covering this and providing resources in a very practical way. I don’t know that there are enough frank conversations about the gritty side of folk magick and I’m here for it.
I loved this video. I absolutely love that people are talking about this because it is a huge part of witchcraft whether people want to talk about it or not. It seems today that we don't act we all have feelings and that we all at some point in our path probably will need to retaliate for some major wrongdoing that was done to us. I am not Wiccan so I don't adhere to the threefold law. I also don't believe that the universe is sitting around expecting us not to fight back if something is actively trying to harm us. I also believe that this could be a very good healing opportunity for some to feel like they could get some justice when every other avenue of justice has failed. Whether you make them see they've done wrong and that really doesn't work because they are a sociopath so they don't care or you've try to take in it to court and it doesn't work. So you're abuser does not get sentenced and gets off Scott free. So then I think it could become also a part of healing magic on your end to feel like that you have gotten some type of justice on this person no I'm not saying just go out and curse or hex anyone that just pisses you off but there comes a line and when someone crosses that linebI'm absolutely prepared to fight back. Not just offensive but I'm also prepared to send everything I have back at you. If you hurt my family or me it's on. I also want to add that before you cast anything like this. I always go by a 3/6-day rule. Give it 3 days. Think about it and if you're still feeling the same way in 3 days that you feel about it when it happens. Unless it's something like abuse, sexual abuse or anything like that then absolutely go to the cops. Don't wait three days, but if you feel like it after 3 days then think about your options and then after 3 more days. If you're really still wanting to hex then it may be justified, but usually after the total 6 days you'll notice that you don't even care anymore. If it's something simple that like a boyfriend breaks up, you're going to notice. Even If I dont feel completely better but it's going to start getting better. So after that basic 6-day. You're going to notice a complete difference in the way you feel so very rarely when you need to use this type of magic. Are there people who just go around cursing people for the heck of it? Absolutely! And I think they will get theirs now. I when I say I don't believe in the threefold law I did not say that I did not believe that things will come back to you as you have dished them out, whether this life or the next. So happy. Witching everyone. This is all my opinion Just the way I do things.
baneful magick is SO INTERESTING! i've never done a baneful working and i hope i never have too. but with that being said, it's one of my favourite topics. it's such an important piece of the craft and honestly, weirdly beautiful to me
This was sooooo helpful and the route I would like to follow in this lifetime with witchcraft.......so many choices....better ones IMO. TY and blessed be 🙏🏻💕💕💕💕
I love that you mentioned saint michael in the context you did. I recently did a working for a friend,since someone is trying to put him in a negative light and my friend is such a sweetheart he definitely doesn't deserve this at all. Saint Michael was fa sho! Lol 😆
Hey, I just did a video on a baneful working I did years ago 😅 I'm so glad yall are out here spreading great info on how to handle them and different types of baneful workings. ❤️
In regards to the crossroads down a dirt road...where I live, I can drive twenty miles down a specific dirt road that passes through 6 crossroads, and one has my husbands family cemetery by it.
Really informative and funny, I could listen to you two banter for ages. 😅 also apparently one of the (few lol) plus-sides of living in Australia is that I'm like a 40min drive from a dirt crossroad in 3 directions
I've done baneful magic once , and it definitely works , one day i shook the jar and bashed it as hard as i could. The next week found out the person i jinxed got sick... The closest i get to baneful now is just the freezer spell , and weird thing , there's this person that bothers and irritates my sibling (Who I'm Very Close with) and me being the caring witch sibling that i am , i put the person in the freezer in my kitchen. That was in January this year , i saw the person for the first time in 4 months, two weeks ago. When i got home that same day I went to put them in the freezer again and saw the paper i originally put in wasn't there , which is weird because i never touched it , so it was probably one of my parents, but anyways , i was abt to put the new paper in there , and then i remembered, we have a Freeze in my Garage. So i went to my garage and put it in a Corner where no one but me would find it. Haven't seen the person since then.
@ChaoticWitchAunt very thought provoking conversation thank you! I have a question- even for those who don’t believe in karma/threefold law, what are your thoughts on how baneful work ties in with personal integrity?
Thank you so much for this video! I was just talking to a friend about how how to start and basics of baneful magick 🥰, and how it’s difficult to find info online for the basics of it… those books are great too!
Frankie have you got your rice cooker yet? Lol (For those who haven’t seen the thrifting episode with them on Olivia’s channel go watch it I was laughing the whole time they have such good energy)
Lol, I like to heal myself by wishing others more than the best than they deserve and let the universe/ dieties/ energy decide whether it's nice or not. And my manifestation is that everything will work out in the best way possible for everyone involved. This is all because I am so terrified that I will screw myself if I try sending anything dark.
Not gonna lie, but I do Return-to-sender spells, and redirect own negative energy back spells, and universal karma balancing spells. I've never cursed someone but I can't stand moral imbalances and so I will do those spells. But I also say, if the person does not give out negative energy, then no negative energy will go back to them. I'm not going to stop doing these spells.
So much great information and food for thought! I have both Utterly Wicked and Of Blood and Bones, and they are awesome! What is the name of the third book? I couldn't catch the name. Love to see you two together, always so fun!
The hardest part of being a Witch isnt even the work. Its your patience. We all secretly want to turn our Boss and coworkers into frogs. But we gotta chill🤣 Or that person that cut you off in traffic. Dont do it hahaha. Keep it cool witches.
Oooo interesting! I love the idea of returning to sender when they send you blessings, makes absolute sense. Quick question though, would you still be able to retain those blessings they sent? If so, how? 😊
Another concept concerning “return to sender”. I don’t do them, but not because I’m a “just heal them” person. All spells are energy, and while most people don’t, technically anyone has the ability to capture that energy, swift it, then use it for their own good. Return to senders are just sending people who’ve done you wrong more energy. Also we don’t know what kind of spirits another person has. Why would someone’s ancestors send you a curse but then allow that same curse to be sent back to their family member? They would probably protect them from it. Instead I like to neutralize the energy they’ve sent, and if I wanna “bite” them I just work up a little light curse/hex and send to them.
Hi Frankie. I have a burning question where I can't find a clear answer to anywhere on the internet. Maybe you know it? Was the term 'witch' also used before christianity? (to describe someone, positive/negative, maybe a healer of some sorts) And how does a 'witch' differ from other magical practitioners (oa sorcerer, wizard etc..) And your 'revisting the basics' videos helped me out so much, thank you for your Wonderfull content!
Great video as always!! I swear just when I was getting ready to research this topic, your video comes out. Thank you so much for this!! ❤️❤️ Also, I love your earrings did you buy them online??
Lmao. . . when I'm actually so effing close to doing a curse the RUclips gods decide to suddenly play this video. I'm very hesitant because I'm new to actively practicing (also my mama will have my ass if she ever finds out) but mostly because I want it to be as mindful as possible and not just rage. Rage won't serve me long term. But I'll be keeping this video in mind and likely be coming back to it!! But wish me luck in just sticking with small pettiness and cutting the bond spells on this person :')
I have found that if your unable 2 get 2 a crossroads like instructed you can do something else that your able 2 do such as burning or find a place that is abandoned and place it there anywhere that you can for example for me I live just a short distance from a crossroads but it is not a dirt crossroads there also is an empty lot right next 2 it so I can dig a place there and it will work just the same
Question… is it possible to “curse” someone without intending it? I have noticed my entire life, when people hurt me and I mean really hurt me their lives go to shit after our falling out. People have died, gone to mental institutions, fell hard into drugs and become homeless… the list goes on and on… Iv always said “be careful how you treat me bc I can’t control the karma that will come for you” and it’s true! I can’t control it…
I've got Datura, Brugmansia, Henbane, and Belladonna growing in pots on my patio, and in my home under a growlight. I'm growing them to build an allyship with the plant spirits, and I love their pretty flowers. It also doesn't hurt to have these ingredients should I choose to engage in baneful magick.
My homestead is in bumfuck, nowhere and it's really fucking convenient when doing baneful workings. Dirt crossroads are still easy for me to come by, cedar and oak tree circles are known by all the kids who grew up playing in the area, fairy rings, creeks and creek beds, natural springs, "dead" trees that are over fifty feet tall and hollow within but still grow, a shit ton of old iron and other metals from old faming equipment, the knowledge where buzzards tend to feed and nest, abandoned wells and stairways (be reeeeeeal careful around those stairs, and don't attempt to use them without unless you REALLY know what the Fuck you're doing), etc., etc. I know a couple of my cousins and classmates have created personal maps of their woods around their homes for their workings and ritual areas and some are so detailed and beautiful. Anyway, living in bumfuck has it's benefits lol
My veil is holding on for dear life in this video 😭
Add on : Poppets can also be used for protecting yourself or blessing others - they are not just for baneful!!!!
Loving the color of the veil!
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Would you mind replying with the title for the first book on the suggestion list? I know you said the first title(this one I'm missing), then Of Blood and Bones, and then Utterly Wicked. I know you said it a few times I just never quite caught it 😅
@@ierrose49 Grovedaughter witchery
I absolutely love baneful protection. I've created my grimoire in such a way that I've built this cursed book system "He who reads this book without my witches word be hexed till ones confess" in big words on the first page sigils and all.
I've had nosey ass people fall on their faces near seconds after putting down my grimoire. I once had a sibling come up to me to apologize because all these things were happening to them I asked "why are you sorry?"
they replied "I read your book..."
Some say it's wrong to do harm to family, I agree but my family crosses the line at snooping through my things without my consent.
Fuck around and you'll find out.
good idea! I've always worried about my siblings and parents reading things now I should do this
Oh I love this! Nicely done~
If it's wrong to protect yourself, then I don't wanna be right. I have basically the same thing in my grimoire's with the literal phrase "fucker, don't test us" at the bottom of each of the front pages, a phrase I've lived by for decades .
*screenshots* lmao
My taco tasted like a burrito...but it's kinda the same so it's okay ✌️
I love that you covered the "baneful blessing" aspect. Intention is everything. I know a lot of love and light practitioners that don't even consider that their workings will have painful consequences.. not all lessons are learned the easy way. If you send someone an "error of your ways" type lesson, that totally falls into baneful magic. I personally don't see anything wrong with that as long as you understand what you are actually doing and take responsibility for it. The universe pays attention, and people can only dismiss their actions for so long before what they put out comes back home.
Unless you don't believe in Karma or believe you transcend karma. It works! Your guilt causes your "punishment" to manifest. If you don't feel guilty, there is no punishment. Dark energy doesn't have a moral code. "As above, so below. Do as thou wilt." That's how narcissists seem to never pay for anything, because they believe they're above it, therefore, they are. It's a code for mortals and we are not that. Unless you want to be. I've learned to look at myself as a goddess and instead of worshipping dieties, BECOME the diety, harness their energy and make it yours. That's the next level after "witch", the level after Goddess is a Spiritual Alchemist
For anyone working with Judeo/ Christian folk magic, a REALLY old form of baneful magic is the imprecatory psalm. Basically, you have a rant session to your deity about your issue at hand (person, thing, doesn't matter). Your deity cherry-picks the fine points of your rambling hex/ curse, and applies them justly as needed.
It's a poetic, creative way of weaving your baneful magic. Think slam poetry, stream of consciousness cursing, essentially. King David was INFAMOUS for this practice, and it's pretty potent stuff. Literal chunks of the Psalms are these curses dedicated to Y*HW*H. Pretty wild stuff.
Aha. Thank you for pointing this out.
Have you read the whole Bible? Baneful magic was NEVER used!
@@gabrielleangelica1977, did you read the whole Bible, and my comment? I do not think you are familiar with imprecatory psalms. You know, the ones in which King David is literally, not figuratively, cursing people.
@@rachelselima2609 Yes I read EVERY word from Genesis to Revelations! Judaism NEVER condones negative magick. They had the book before you. Saul was punished for it.
@@gabrielleangelica1977, firstly, not they, WE. Secondly, you need to check your reading comprehension. Look up the definition for imprecatory psalms. Re-read the part where Kung David literally curses people. You seem to be missing some basic information, on some quest to argue something that is a fact you do not seem to understand or agree with. Not my problem. Take a deep breath, and read again.
I did "baneful" protection spells using a dollar compact mirror against two threatening male bosses after I went to an attorney and HR. The "crossroads" were the underground sewer at the 4- way stop sign. It reflected back anything that they were intending toward me. BTW it worked 🖤🤟💯
I would love a witchy podcast with you two
Same ❤
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KNOT MAGIC PLEASE AND THANK YOU! I love making macrame and never even thought of using it as protection.
I was just wondering about that yesterday!
I'm Lakota Sicangu, and I've heard of elders talk about 'bad medicine.' Which may be their version of baneful magic. But I've also grown up with the belief that people who do bad things will eventually be turned on by what they surround themselves with. Like for example, someone who's a pipe-carrier. If someone who carries a pipe with them starts doing things that aren't holy or aren't good to others, we just leave them be and protect ourselves, because we believe that eventually, the pipe will "bite them back" XD.
Very vague teachings. But I'm still learning myself. Growing up on the rez still doesn't mean I've learned everything yet, I still need to reach out to the right people. Great video though, Frankie! Your latest stuff is really intriguing ^^
I think its also important to remember that we have to always be careful when we have active altars that are open sources of magic. Baneful works may happen without us consciously doing them, if we already have a working altar that we use for other kinds of spells. Because such an altar is essentially like a tap, which is your source of power and an anchor to all of your spells. And if you have a really strong negative emotion against them long enough, it can actually manifest into baneful magic without you consciously casting a hex or putting a jinx or cursing someone by doing a full fledged working.
The worst I've done was a binding spell as far as baneful goes. Basically restricting a frat bro-type from harassing my friend (this was harassment that involved reports and a title 9 complaint to the school so not a petty issue) and also binding him to his own choices. I think that's kind of baneful-domination rather than pure baneful. It worked, he moved out of the building within a week of doing the spell. It's a little bottle and knot spell that I keep on my altar and shake when I see it. When my friend is done with the college I'll undo the spell.
I agree with what olivia said about learning baneful magick even if you aren't comfortable doing it. I recently had this conversation with my mum and my sister. I personally don't use baneful magick, because I have never been in the position to want to or felt the need to, however I have still researched it and wrote things down for knowledge purposes. thanks for making a cool video on the topic. Lots of love from the UK
I think it is important to acknowledge that witches who don't do any baneful magic (in whichever form, even if badmouthing, gossiping and being jealous) are harmless. My craft grew in power since I allowed myself the knowledge and the ability to do baneful crafts.
I love how Frankie opens up by calling them both bitches and Olivia asks if they're allowed to curse 🤣
Love this! I have a couple tips:
-I knit, crochet, embroider etc. Whenever I'm making something for a specific intention (like protection and blessings, which I do whenever I make things for my niece and nephew), I try to choose a color that corresponds with my intention and then I simple speak a blessing/intention over my materials at the beginning of the project. Works a dream. Cleansing for wearables is especially easy because the yarn I use is machine washable
-While substitutions can be dicy, I highly recommend substituting nightshade with other kitchen items in the same genus, like tomatoes or bell peppers; unless of course you're allergic to them. In fact, I have a private theory that the reason for the prevalence of chili peppers and tobacco in baneful folk workings might be due in part to the fact that these plants are all nightshades. I prefer apples myself, because of the whole cyanide in the seeds thing, but to each their own!
I love when both of you get together to make videos I love both perspectives, everytime frankie talks about the lemon hex that fell in the gutter it reminds me of something I did in like 2nd grade I didn't Identify as a witch and didn't know much of what I was doing but also did its weird, but I drew a picture of this boy that was mean to me (very poorly drawn I might add) and I got a pencil and stabbed it on the face, and the next day he came in with acne on his face in the exact places I stabbed, I'm like embarrassed of this but also find it so hilarious. I mean luckily nothing bad bounced back to me
I would love a talk about how to bless someone to see their true self and their flaws.
YES! I second this!
Baneful blessing reminds me of in the south when we say "oh bless your heart" when we really mean "oh sweetie I'm glad I'm not you"
Instead of sending energy back to sender, I like to send that energy to power a baneful ward. They wanna send me energy, I'm not gonna give it back, I'll use it to boost my protections and they'll continue to waste their energy with nothing in return. If they wanna continue to fuck around, they're gonna find out when they hit the newly powered-up ward. I got the idea from the spell to "transmute" the ickiness from Utterly Wicked, but figured if there's stuff coming my way, it's a good time to up my protection, and might as well make use of the energy that's directed at me anyway.
in regards to the venn diagram, i would absolutely classify chord cutting as a "domination hex" as it has the dominating aspect of forcing someone/their energy away from you and it hexes them by preventing them from having access to you regardless of how much they want that
Did a mirror spell once to show a person how they were acting and making others feel…..so much energy expended, gave me a headache and I felt exhausted afterwards. But it worked! This stuff should not be done lightheartedly. But is needed sometimes!
I don't see myself ever needing to do baneful work, but it's still something I want to learn more about - especially breaking curses. It's such an interesting side of magic.
its like my grandmama used to tell me its better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it
I love this discussion of baneful protection/blessings! I actually was unaware of that classification before despite kind of having that effect imbued in my threshold protection so I guess that “and stay out!” vibe is strong with me
I keep up a braid above my door that cleanses people walking under it and bounces and scatters that “sticky energy” that clings or sneaks in with them back out! I personally don’t believe in conscious entities that I’m like hexing there but I’m intentionally trying to make that energy turn to dust outside my door :)
My two favourite witches together🔮🖤👑
Exactly!
Hi Ms. Frankie, I was wondering if you could put “plant correspondences” on the queue of videos to make in future? I don’t mean herbs or trees, I mean like you know, using Aloe Vera for wards or healing. I watched your revisiting protection video and you said helpful stuff about it, but maybe if you could turn me towards info or a book that talks about that more i’d really appreciate it, since I want to get into that. Thanks!
Sure thing!
*Mx. Frankie
@@silvercoyote8829 Oh right! Sorry
Wow, what a synchronizity. Just a few days ago I started looking into baneful magic, because I'm considering to hex someone, because a healing spell for unhealed aspects of myself doesn't seem to cover it this time.
And now this. My favorite RUclipsrs doing a video on this topic. 😍 Really looking forward to watching the video!!
I really like the part about baneful blessings and baneful protection. That's something I want to learn more about. Something that you didn't cover, but I read about in one of the books you've suggested (I think it was Grovedaughter Witchery), is baneful magic that depends on the target and specific actions the other person does, would trigger the baneful magic. If they don't do the action then they will not experience any baneful magick.
Thanks for everything, it's a great video, that I will rewatch for sure. Have fun together, Olivia and Frankie. See you in the next one.
Frankie uses they/them pronouns!
@@krystalschrand4256 That's right, thank you, Krystal. I'm actually not sure how to use they/them pronouns in English, since I'm not a native speaker. But I'll look it up until my next comment. 🙋♀️ Important topic to address.
I identify as a female and I'm also pansexual. ✨ A couple of years ago, my husband told me that there was a different word for my sexuality than I used. Very interesting. 🙂
I swear your videos ALWAYS come out the moment I start researching something, perfect timing!❤️
no one:
every magic practitioner: it’s nuance
but true
When every I hear the herb " Rue " I always get that picture of Rupaul in my head
I'm a beginner and read your book Spells for Change (absolutely loved it), I kept remembering when you mentioned these topics in your book! Just makes me so happy that I'm learning so much from your content, tysm for everything you do 😊✨ Alsooo love it when you both do colabs together!!
Interesting point you brought up about hexing and jinxing. we are often doing this to each other all the time without knowing it. I have several nero-divergent friends in my life and I have to make sure I am always in good relationship with them. There ability, or tendency, to spiral into hyper focused negativity about me (if I have hurt them in some way) has proven to be VERY destructive in my life. I learned a few year ago about autistic children's power to accidentally create tulpas or poltergeists because of their potent inner thought patterns. It was a stark reminder of the power of the mind, especially from those among us that are gifted without knowing it.
Gotta love Olivia’s look at Frankie at the “How long are you leaving people in the freezer?”😂😂
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Could you do a video on the origins of witchcraft one day? I've been practicing for about a year but I've struggled to find any definitive information on where witchcraft began. Obviously it's evolved over the centuries but it doesn't sit right with me that I'm so passionate about a practice without even knowing who started it. If not a video, would you know any resources that would provide this info?
The trouble is that witch craft has evolved over a long time - from shamanistic practices, folk magic, there are even some religious practices now categorised by some as witchcraft (think catholic incense burning). If you want to look at the development of more organised practices (like wicca), I suggest researching occultism during the later 1800s and throughout the 1990s, with stuff like the development of the order of the golden dawn (I think it was called). But if you prefer more kitchen/eclectic/hedge/green/hearth-based practices, it becomes much trickier to track. You could study the causes of the witch burning, and the wise women type people who existed more before them. Also, you could look into the evolution of hoodoo and voodoo type practices, especially during the era of slavery and after. Bottom line is, there is no comprehensive timeline for witchcraft because witchcraft as we know it today has evolved from hundreds of practiced, religions, etc. The was no ONE PERSON who FOUNDED EVERYTHING, so don’t think about it that way. It’s like cooking - there wasn’t a single discoverer of how to make desserts, it was many different people, whose ideas all contributed to something that we now have a name for. However, if you are a Wiccan, or belong to another organised group, I suppose you could just use the founder of that group or theory, though you can always go farther back. Maybe this helped, maybe it didn’t, I have no idea. Sorry it’s so long.
omg witch of wanderlust was one of the first witchy channels I subbed to years ago when I started looking into magic! also, what funny timing that this popped up on my page, Loki has been pushing me to lean into chaos and dabble in baneful magic/baneful protections and stuff lately, and then boom this appeared!
Great video. Thank you for covering this and providing resources in a very practical way. I don’t know that there are enough frank conversations about the gritty side of folk magick and I’m here for it.
Regional privilege ~ I have never had to worry about finding dirt crossroads, there’s tons here in the local Scottish woodlands.
I loved this video. I absolutely love that people are talking about this because it is a huge part of witchcraft whether people want to talk about it or not. It seems today that we don't act we all have feelings and that we all at some point in our path probably will need to retaliate for some major wrongdoing that was done to us. I am not Wiccan so I don't adhere to the threefold law. I also don't believe that the universe is sitting around expecting us not to fight back if something is actively trying to harm us. I also believe that this could be a very good healing opportunity for some to feel like they could get some justice when every other avenue of justice has failed. Whether you make them see they've done wrong and that really doesn't work because they are a sociopath so they don't care or you've try to take in it to court and it doesn't work. So you're abuser does not get sentenced and gets off Scott free. So then I think it could become also a part of healing magic on your end to feel like that you have gotten some type of justice on this person no I'm not saying just go out and curse or hex anyone that just pisses you off but there comes a line and when someone crosses that linebI'm absolutely prepared to fight back. Not just offensive but I'm also prepared to send everything I have back at you. If you hurt my family or me it's on. I also want to add that before you cast anything like this. I always go by a 3/6-day rule. Give it 3 days. Think about it and if you're still feeling the same way in 3 days that you feel about it when it happens. Unless it's something like abuse, sexual abuse or anything like that then absolutely go to the cops. Don't wait three days, but if you feel like it after 3 days then think about your options and then after 3 more days. If you're really still wanting to hex then it may be justified, but usually after the total 6 days you'll notice that you don't even care anymore. If it's something simple that like a boyfriend breaks up, you're going to notice. Even If I dont feel completely better but it's going to start getting better. So after that basic 6-day. You're going to notice a complete difference in the way you feel so very rarely when you need to use this type of magic. Are there people who just go around cursing people for the heck of it? Absolutely! And I think they will get theirs now. I when I say I don't believe in the threefold law I did not say that I did not believe that things will come back to you as you have dished them out, whether this life or the next. So happy. Witching everyone. This is all my opinion Just the way I do things.
I agree with you. 🙂 Very interesting thoughts. Thanks for sharing. ✨
@@pomegranateandivy9833 your welcome
baneful magick is SO INTERESTING! i've never done a baneful working and i hope i never have too. but with that being said, it's one of my favourite topics. it's such an important piece of the craft and honestly, weirdly beautiful to me
two of my fav witchy ytbers in one video? say 👏 no 👏 more 👏
This was sooooo helpful and the route I would like to follow in this lifetime with witchcraft.......so many choices....better ones IMO.
TY and blessed be 🙏🏻💕💕💕💕
Hi Sally!
12:50 That's my bookbaby! I'm so glad you're enjoying it. Thank you for the recommendations! 😊💜
I love that you mentioned saint michael in the context you did. I recently did a working for a friend,since someone is trying to put him in a negative light and my friend is such a sweetheart he definitely doesn't deserve this at all. Saint Michael was fa sho! Lol 😆
Hey, I just did a video on a baneful working I did years ago 😅 I'm so glad yall are out here spreading great info on how to handle them and different types of baneful workings. ❤️
Can emotion be a form of intention ?
Olivia is very wise. It's far too much energy (and im not wasting ingredients 🤷🏻♀️) on petty shit.
In regards to the crossroads down a dirt road...where I live, I can drive twenty miles down a specific dirt road that passes through 6 crossroads, and one has my husbands family cemetery by it.
I need you two to do a podcast pleaseeeeeee or more vids together i love this so much my two fav witchy RUclipsrs
My favorite fellow witches in the same place talking about a sticky topic. I'm in.
Really informative and funny, I could listen to you two banter for ages. 😅
also apparently one of the (few lol) plus-sides of living in Australia is that I'm like a 40min drive from a dirt crossroad in 3 directions
Yay I love both of you!! So stoked for this video! ❤️
More like this. I used to completely be against baneful magic (personally) but I’m so interested. Great video! Would LOVE to learn more.
May I ask what changed your mind?
Just an FYI--Tomatoes are a nightshade and much safer to use. :)
I love tomatoes. So much.
Best witchy duo 💕💕💕🌸
I've done baneful magic once , and it definitely works , one day i shook the jar and bashed it as hard as i could.
The next week found out the person i jinxed got sick...
The closest i get to baneful now is just the freezer spell , and weird thing , there's this person that bothers and irritates my sibling (Who I'm Very Close with) and me being the caring witch sibling that i am , i put the person in the freezer in my kitchen. That was in January this year , i saw the person for the first time in 4 months, two weeks ago. When i got home that same day I went to put them in the freezer again and saw the paper i originally put in wasn't there , which is weird because i never touched it , so it was probably one of my parents, but anyways , i was abt to put the new paper in there , and then i remembered, we have a Freeze in my Garage. So i went to my garage and put it in a Corner where no one but me would find it. Haven't seen the person since then.
I have a "hungry ward". It catches malicious energy, changes it, then projects it as a shield.
I love your videos! You explain things so well and are so well researched, I always enjoy your channel!
Frankie and Olivia, thank you so much for this information. I look forward to both your videos. Blessed be ❤
@ChaoticWitchAunt very thought provoking conversation thank you! I have a question- even for those who don’t believe in karma/threefold law, what are your thoughts on how baneful work ties in with personal integrity?
YESSSSSS I LOVE OLIVIA
Italian here too, Frankie! Calabria, baby! Love that Italian Folk Magic! Great video! 💜🤌
Ahhhhh Calabria as well!!!
@@ChaoticWitchAunt 💜
Could you do a video on how to construct banefull wards please?
Thank you so much for this video! I was just talking to a friend about how how to start and basics of baneful magick 🥰, and how it’s difficult to find info online for the basics of it… those books are great too!
Frankie have you got your rice cooker yet? Lol
(For those who haven’t seen the thrifting episode with them on Olivia’s channel go watch it I was laughing the whole time they have such good energy)
Lol, I like to heal myself by wishing others more than the best than they deserve and let the universe/ dieties/ energy decide whether it's nice or not. And my manifestation is that everything will work out in the best way possible for everyone involved. This is all because I am so terrified that I will screw myself if I try sending anything dark.
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Thank you for chatting about this!
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Two of my favorite witchessssssssss💖💖💖💖💖😍
Not gonna lie, but I do Return-to-sender spells, and redirect own negative energy back spells, and universal karma balancing spells. I've never cursed someone but I can't stand moral imbalances and so I will do those spells. But I also say, if the person does not give out negative energy, then no negative energy will go back to them. I'm not going to stop doing these spells.
Finally a witch that mentions an archangel,,, any tips ,articles; or books on info in working with archangels…?
So much great information and food for thought! I have both Utterly Wicked and Of Blood and Bones, and they are awesome! What is the name of the third book? I couldn't catch the name. Love to see you two together, always so fun!
Grovedaughter Witchery
@@da2357 thank you! 😊
My captions kept changing “baneful magick” to “baby magick” and it made me very happy
CWA, Baneful magic is a part of my Tradition through my heritage ( Russian black magic..)
My two favorite witches together!! Yah 🙃
Had never heard of baneful protection before now but apparently I've been doing that for a while lol, spiked collars are a great protection thing btw
The hardest part of being a Witch isnt even the work.
Its your patience.
We all secretly want to turn our Boss and coworkers into frogs.
But we gotta chill🤣
Or that person that cut you off in traffic.
Dont do it hahaha.
Keep it cool witches.
Doing some divination before baneful work is always good too.
Oooo interesting! I love the idea of returning to sender when they send you blessings, makes absolute sense. Quick question though, would you still be able to retain those blessings they sent? If so, how? 😊
I have seen her Videos....love you both ...thank you
Great video to you both! Thanks!
Another concept concerning “return to sender”. I don’t do them, but not because I’m a “just heal them” person. All spells are energy, and while most people don’t, technically anyone has the ability to capture that energy, swift it, then use it for their own good. Return to senders are just sending people who’ve done you wrong more energy. Also we don’t know what kind of spirits another person has. Why would someone’s ancestors send you a curse but then allow that same curse to be sent back to their family member? They would probably protect them from it. Instead I like to neutralize the energy they’ve sent, and if I wanna “bite” them I just work up a little light curse/hex and send to them.
ANY NIGHTSHADE?!? Oh, you better BELIEVE I am hexing someone with a cherry tomato (tomatoes are in the nightshade family)
i was just looking for a video on baneful! this is perfect :)
Thank you for that info! I got a few questions answered... ha!
Hi Frankie. I have a burning question where I can't find a clear answer to anywhere on the internet. Maybe you know it? Was the term 'witch' also used before christianity? (to describe someone, positive/negative, maybe a healer of some sorts) And how does a 'witch' differ from other magical practitioners (oa sorcerer, wizard etc..)
And your 'revisting the basics' videos helped me out so much, thank you for your Wonderfull content!
Great video as always!! I swear just when I was getting ready to research this topic, your video comes out. Thank you so much for this!! ❤️❤️ Also, I love your earrings did you buy them online??
Please share baneful protection spells and ideas.
Gonna dominate myself to clean my room and get it together 😍😍
Lmao. . . when I'm actually so effing close to doing a curse the RUclips gods decide to suddenly play this video. I'm very hesitant because I'm new to actively practicing (also my mama will have my ass if she ever finds out) but mostly because I want it to be as mindful as possible and not just rage. Rage won't serve me long term. But I'll be keeping this video in mind and likely be coming back to it!!
But wish me luck in just sticking with small pettiness and cutting the bond spells on this person :')
I have found that if your unable 2 get 2 a crossroads like instructed you can do something else that your able 2 do such as burning or find a place that is abandoned and place it there anywhere that you can for example for me I live just a short distance from a crossroads but it is not a dirt crossroads there also is an empty lot right next 2 it so I can dig a place there and it will work just the same
Question… is it possible to “curse” someone without intending it? I have noticed my entire life, when people hurt me and I mean really hurt me their lives go to shit after our falling out. People have died, gone to mental institutions, fell hard into drugs and become homeless… the list goes on and on… Iv always said “be careful how you treat me bc I can’t control the karma that will come for you” and it’s true! I can’t control it…
If evil eye can be transmitted accidentally, then so can curses probably. Just be careful and keep an even keel on your emotions.
Please do a video on Italian folk magic & book recs for us Italian witches struggling to find good books & resources! 😭🙏🇮🇹
Thanks for making this video.
Omg yes !!! Love you guys
Can you do a video on the whole "blessing people to see their flaws" thing?
I've got Datura, Brugmansia, Henbane, and Belladonna growing in pots on my patio, and in my home under a growlight. I'm growing them to build an allyship with the plant spirits, and I love their pretty flowers. It also doesn't hurt to have these ingredients should I choose to engage in baneful magick.
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My homestead is in bumfuck, nowhere and it's really fucking convenient when doing baneful workings. Dirt crossroads are still easy for me to come by, cedar and oak tree circles are known by all the kids who grew up playing in the area, fairy rings, creeks and creek beds, natural springs, "dead" trees that are over fifty feet tall and hollow within but still grow, a shit ton of old iron and other metals from old faming equipment, the knowledge where buzzards tend to feed and nest, abandoned wells and stairways (be reeeeeeal careful around those stairs, and don't attempt to use them without unless you REALLY know what the Fuck you're doing), etc., etc. I know a couple of my cousins and classmates have created personal maps of their woods around their homes for their workings and ritual areas and some are so detailed and beautiful. Anyway, living in bumfuck has it's benefits lol
Listen - my dream is to live out in the woods in bumfuck. This just solidified it.
Really great video! Thanks! 😃☮🕉✌🙏🧿⭐
Frankie: You need to borrow it
Olivia: I will borrow it 🤣🤣
13:33 Olivia: ... Frankie...!
Me, watching with coffee: ... I mean, she is the CHAOTIC Witch Aunt.
I gotta do a domination spell on my future employer to answer my goddamn email lol
I sort of see baneful protection as a bear trap. (At least what I do lol) Don't be creeping around my home and you won't lose your foot 🙍