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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2024
- The mystery continues to deepen surrounding the disappearance of two Kansas mothers who vanished more than a week ago. Veronica Butler, 27, and Jilian Kelley, 39, from Hugoton, Kansas, disappeared March 30 without a trace except for an abandoned car found by Butler’s husband on the side of a road. NewsNation's Laura Ingle reports the latest details.
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If you ever have to meet someone to do something like these ladies were, meet some where around public and cameras if possible.
Those are not rumors, about pigs. It is not a myth. Pigs can totally destroy a human body.
It is true.
Bones and all. Fact. I learned at a very young age .. they terrify me.
Check out the Susan Monica story where she fed her hired hand to the pigs. It is true. They’ll tear you up.
My Dad had a heart attack and collapsed in a pig pen. He was unable to get up and the pigs were surrounding him. Luckily he was found by a coworker, he had put his red hat on the end of a rake and was able to put the rake up against the fence. His co worker saw the hat and came to help him
I'm not willing to trust a Guy Ritchie movie as a source. Why did the mafia bury people and use metal barrels dumped in lakes when they could buy discreet 24hr access to a pig farm?
I’m completely baffled by the lack of updates from authorities. They are so tight lipped. I hope it means that they have some good information and will have some answers soon.
Oklahoma Law Enforcement can be rather intimidating. They never show their hand very much !
I agree
Who remembers Jesse McFadden case? They didn't even process the scene correctly. It was a total chaos, and law enforcement didn't handle the case well.
usually means they have a suspect and are working on getting evidence
They found the 2 ladies deceased. 😢
Truly horrible and frightening. Prayers.
Meeting up at an abandoned gas station??? Unbelievable!
You are clueless about area
There seems to be some misinformation about it being abandoned, didn't they just say that they talked to the person employed there?
@@magicmarker7047 I’ll check
@@magicmarker7047 she did indeed say they were meeting at the “abandoned gas station” though, most media outlets report things that aren’t always correct. Hard to say .
Is that a hog confinement in the distance? If it is, is it in production?
If it is, does anyone realize that penned hogs can completely consume a human cadaver, leaving no trace of bone or clothes?
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkk !
I'm considering her last comment the S-trade among a few Tulsa related truckers. I had a run in with truckers CBing each other just out of Tulsa, OK because I looked like an S-trade investigator in and around Tulsa. I have a feeling both women are chained, drugged and being sold to underground bidding of big money exchanges there.
@@lawrencejelsma8118 😂😂😂! You're kidding right?? This is the Oklahoma panhandle!! That didn't happen!! They were fed to the hogs! Everyone knows they were from around here
Yes it is. It seaboard foods farm 42. My mom used to work there a while back. Still in production.
@@TurkeyCreekGal ... Newsnation in their report yesterday came to the same conclusion. Reporters of Newsnation were showing where the location was and with a drone. Then a black truck pulling up with tinted windows was a sign to them to leave. The reporters said, "It is a known remote area to the locals there where the high crimes of trafficking in Oklahoma is!" So their investigation is wrong also!?
I'm curious.…did the Grandmother call anyone when Veronica didn't show up to the gas station?!
No
I think the question here should be did the grandmother even show up at that gas station or did she know there was no need to show.
I wondered if they showed up at the gas station, and grandma and the kids weren't there (probably pre-arranged to come earlier to prove she & the kids had indeed shown up , or not to show up at all). So the 2 ladies, seeing the grandma & the kids weren't there, maybe were driving toward the grandma's house, being followed by someone pre-arranged waiting for them at the gas station. Ran them off the road (I heard the car was parked oddedly; like facing the wrong direction) and assaulted them when they got to a deserted patch. Just my guess on what happened...it will be interesting what the gas station's cameras show on who showed up and when, if there's any cameras at all and if they were working. I heard that Jillian's husband was the one who called 911 and found their car. Also I heard those rehabs that Veronica's ex was at...any patient can walk out of at any time...they're not locked in there. The 1st person I'd look at if I were LE is the ex.
It's my understanding that Gma and kids did not show up to the meeting spot Rumor has it the kids were with a babysitter and not even at Gma's. Gma didn't show up to a hearing last month and was in violation of the custodial terms of the court order (allegedly).
@@sherri5470......
Tells me plenty. But not solid proof.
Were you in a rental without any way to know you were with the news, or did you look like out-of-towners driving around rural America looking suspicious?
I couldnt find any cell towers and who on earth would agree to such a remote area with the history of the parents?
They run off at&t &ptci towers.
@@joshuaholcomb4681 thank you. Il have another look. Its like it was the furthest place they could meet. And get away in 3 directions. As there are no real attempts to search that area, then i feel they have many clues. I hope.
Why has the Husband and his Mother not been taken in ??????
I’m sure they’ve been questioned. You sdon’t have to be “taken in” to be questioned.
Evidence?
Absolutely and totally desolate ! I believe that somebody associated with the children's fathers family is mixed up in this.... HOW ELSE would they disappear in the middle of nowhere SO CLOSE to where they were supposed to meet for the supervised meeting??
Its the ex mother in law
Next day or later that day dad went to rehab!
I've heard about the black truck doing that to the RUclipsrs page Rock Chalk when they were out looking for the missing girls too. They also discussed that happening to them!!!!
YES!!!!! That's happened to Rock chalk as well. So scary 😲
It's not uncommon to have someone from the industrial farm come out and check why people are in the area. They have security at these places that don't have marked cars.
@@user-mz8qd5rd9q Correct but these ppl were on different parts of town and different times from the middle of the night to the day time trying to scare and intimidate ppl looking for the girls and covering their story. Ive been held ransom and trafficked for ten years and that behavior is very very prominent in trafficking cases. I know that. Looks gang related for sure.
@@user-mz8qd5rd9qMy question is why would security even care unless they might have something going on? Just secure the perimeter the rest is either owned or public space really non of the businesses business.
Curious I travel 412 daily and that gas station has been closed for awhile now at 4 corners?
Interesting.... perhaps it was just a location on a map to meet up !
Yea empty lot was described too. What judge in his right mind would do that to the mother????
Last time I was there it was open several years ago
How strange!! I have had road 412 come up twice now in 2 day's.. The other time was in Tennessee.. An autistic boy has disappeared and a psychic said he was somewhere around 412 road.. 🤔
@@LisaP-pd6nqgo take a road trip.
This region is very rural.
Sad horrific pig farm….
That is the Most Desolate location in rural Oklahoma that I have ever seen !!!!
What a horrible place!! I live in the Pacific Northwest with super tall tree's and mountains.. I could never live there.. 😶
I was raised in an area like this in No. Central Okla. It’s very common. American has millions of acres just like this.
@@selecttravelvacations7472 I didn't mean anything by that.. I was in Oklahoma year's ago but it wasn't as desolate as this area here.. I see how tornadoes go crazy on land this flat.. When I went to Oklahoma I traveled through Kansas and Colorado, I think Wyoming and Idaho and I didn't feel right until I got into Western Oregon.. I could have ridden my horses for hour's in a place like this.. 🤗
I lived in Hugoton Ks for a few decades. SW KS, the Oklahoma and Texas panhandle is mostly farm land. This is the way this whole area is. Farmers own most of the land and what you are seeing for miles and miles is farmland. Very few cities have over a few hundred population and are mostly cities to support farmers needs. Hugoton KS and Guymon OK and Elkhart are really the main cities in the area and only Guymon has a population of over 12000. Hugoton has about 4000 population and Elkhart about 2000. Those are bigger cities in that area. Its a common thing for people in Hugoton to meet up with people in towns 30 to 80 miles away to shop or take care of business. Gas stations are few and far between and are closed often as often as open. Also elevators where grains are kept are common places to meet up because they are a landmark that many people will know where they are. But most women that live in those areas are accustomed to traveling alone or with a friend. But these areas have in the past been areas for drug transport and white slaves. Most people wouldnt go out at night and meet in some abandoned place. The mother must have been really desperate to go get her kids to pit herself at such risk. Also there are lots of very territorial and aggressive land owners which probably could explain the black truck.
Also it is true that feeding dead people to the pigs has been done in the past. However, they wont eat the clothes and will often crap out bones of anomals they eat. So if this was the case, some evidence should be around. But given the isolated territorial neighbors around this area they would likely resist letting the OBI onsite without warrants. And rural judges in these areas were often put on place by the business in the area. They wouldnt lokely be too keen on issuing search warrants lightly.
In the decades I lived in this area, you learn to keep your mouth shut and not notice the corruptions and law breakers around you. Frankly, we worried more about some of the local police corruption more than we did the crime rate. Im not saying thats true in this case. But Im just making the point that this area is not patrolled regularly, has tons of suspicious people looking for victims, and from what weve been told by media is that the mothers ex was one of these people. Add to that custody disputes. Many men in this area could care less whether something is immoral or illegal. Its more of a case of what they think they can get away with. The questions really need to heavily focus on the mothers ex and family and their past violent tendencies. Hopefully the OBI will get some answers if it was locals who abducted or hurt them. But if its white slave transporters or if they stumbled into a drug situation, they may already be dead. Im certainly hoping for the best as I called Hugoton my home for decades.
In an ongoing investigation the police have no duty tell you anything. Frustrating but true. But, a child custody hand off in the middle of nowhere at an abandoned gas station? Who on earth is behind that?
No judge would OK a handoff/pick up of children at an abandoned 'anything' unless that place is surrounded by busy active businesses. Just can't see it either.
Crazy human trafficking, truckers , custody battle ! They just don’t know what happened to these women sad ! My deepest condolences to there families & thoughts and prayers! R. I. P 🖤🖤🖤 be safe y’all the world is full of evil monsters living amongst us ! 🙏🏻🇺🇸♥️
Meet at an abandoned gas station? No way. Set up. I bet the kids were nit even driven there
I can't see a judge OK'ing a drop off/pick up of little kids at an abandoned 'anything', without it being surrounded by busy active businesses.
@@bettywith2girlslol 'busy' in that section of Oklahoma!
Hope you take a road trip to this place and get some experience.
Did the women know they were going to a desolate area?
This is the norm for that region.
The pioneer county I lived in in Montana has 2x the amount of people vs place I lived in Oklahoma. Let that sink in. Montana know for isolation is more populated than western Oklahoma.
The car was dumped!
How do you know?
Ya for sure it was. Staged Imo
My ears perked up when I heard that pig farms were in the area. No trace of the 2 ladies but pig farms near by 🤔🤔🤔🤔
The unthinkable...could they have been fed to the pigs?
@@AEMoreira81 that was my #1 thought.
I'd like to know who chose such an isolated place for a supervised exchange of minor children. That's not normal.
Unless it's a stranger abduction I am leaning towards grandma...
imo grandma and her partner are involved. Grandma basicall abducted the kids from the parents imo too
Meet up. Kids were taken by grandma to the meet-up place? Bet not.
I bet not too.
Pray,pray,pray
Ok,ok,ok.
I'm from this area, it is very, very safe. I would bet money it has to do with the custody battle. If a guy came down the road, he was probably seeing if you needed anything
It could have been his land the ladies car was on? Maybe guarding the cross that was put there? Who knows?
@@bettywith2girls So private people can own the road?
@@magicmarker7047lol no, but they probably own the 100,000 acres next to it with millions of dollars of livestock and crops on the other side. How close would you let someone get to your investment before you jump in your vehicle to keep an eye on your property? 😂
Ashley: I don't believe the people who were supposed to drop off the kids even left with kids yo drop them off. Did the kids even leave grandma's house that day?
Nope
Me too...I wondered the same thing also. It sounds like a setup to me. Poor ladies.
It also seems that the children were with a baby sitter so where was grandma during this time?
Wow. Terrifying.
Possibly the woman’s daughter placed the cross? Idk. Sketchy areas out there.
Only if her grandmother took her.
Kids are something like 6 and 8.
@@OutWestRedDirt right. I imagined they wanted to. But it could be anyone who cared.
Many people think that, because it was a bitter custody battle, that LE is rightly looking at "family" or contracted by family to hurt these women by someone else. Sadly, the chances of those 2 women being alive still is very small. That's OK that we don't hear anything from LE...let them investigate the family and let them do their job. We'll hear soon enough what happened and which family member was involved.
Why report a woman is alone at the station? Now the world knows it!!!
Andxwhat do u think we do to them? Just a horrible case all around.
Yeah...I don't think she was "thinking" when she broadcasted that information all over the news and internet...but to her credit, this was thought to be a targetted attack because of a bitter custody fight, so the chances it would be a problem with a random woman at a local gas station are very small. Yet, probably not a good idea to advertise that that woman was all by herself working at that gas station, in general.
Omgosh EXACTLY WHAT I SAID!! Unbelievable and despicable to share that info. If anything happens to that lady there could be a lawsuit? No regard just none.
Very creepy.
News Media Always Add To Situations. You Were Probably Near Private Property, Looked Suspicious Or On Private Road.
The Hiway is not private
Wait a minute. A news crew - with cell phones AND filming equipment - reports about a vehicle but has no video to include in the story? And didn't they have a drone camera too? Seems to me they could have put that drone in the air and captured that vehicle if they quickly left.
My thoughts would be on the custody battle but yes, it may have been something else.
Honey, those roads don't lead to vinyards.
Honey, she meant in California.
@@susivarga7303 It was an odd comparison though, don't you think? I thought it was.
They're really "busy"? In that town? 😮 What's going on?
The gas station is right there. Who passed or stopped by? (Did they ever make it to the gas station?) Did phones run out of battery?
*What time did family arrive with children at gas station?* (Did they?)
But, also people are attempting to kidnap women who are close to 50 ... (reasons unknown). But, lured away from coffee breakfast area at hotels. Even using females to approach.
How do you write the small font text ?
Lol hotels !
You people are making my sides hurt !
Good point if it's kidnapping for slavery, women are used to lure other women into trap.
Please find these women
You won't see anything out there!! I bet the D.O.C antenna vehicles are in on it
“Ex husband” yeah just meet me at this abandoned gas station. . . In the middle of nowhere. . With poor cell phone service. . Near a hog farm . .
“Ex wife” Cool 😊
What about the pool of blood that was found there covered with kitty litter. Did you see that? Do you know if any DNA tests were taken?
I strongly suspect that the grandma had something to do with it !
I know that area and there is no traffic there but pig farmers and oil field workers traveling thru😢
Great job reporting News Nation! Asking questions and trying to get to the bottom of these mysteries. When the authorities just want something to "go away" they tell us there is nothing to see here. (Example: February 2023 US government shot down 3 "Balloons" then we never heard anything else and the main stream media is afraid to ask tough questions) We need more reporters like NewsNation!
The dad prob knows somebody that works at the pig farm. The grandma is probably involved also. Was the dad in rehab,meth addicts are very violent & dangerous people!
Even Hannibal Lector was to be fed to the Hogs but he turned the tables on that idea! lol
Big black or blue truck was what witness saw
This is pathetic!!! What is going on?? They know something.
police not talking, that is a sign that they don't have anything yet, and don't care about press release, if the public is scared, no prob
Not true
Nonsense
What’s she even talking about the black truck for 🤷♂️
She got spiked.
How dare another person be in the area.
Nobody’s talking huh? So people know what happened?
That's not true about human trafficking!! I've lived here my entire life, so has my entire family and there's zero human trafficking here!!
Says everyone that knows zero about human trafficking. Trust, there's a LOT of human trafficking going on with migrant workers... and unless NW OK is hugely different than SW KS, there are absolutely migrant workers at these farms.
I personally don't see the ladies being fed to confinement operation pigs unless there are a lot of people in on it, and there's zero reason to kill them if it was migrant workers involved in trafficking. Murder, IMO, would be related to the ex or exes family.
Obviously it never happened anywhere right? Because you didn’t see it that’s why!
(Ostrich head buried in sand)
Maybe their is NOW😮
@@Soapboxstomper if turkeycreekgal didn’t see it happening in the middle of b f nowhere then it couldn’t have happened obvIOUsLy
No, the hogs are trafficking humans for themselves!
Ew! Were they implying in this report that the two missing women were fed to pigs on a nearby pig farm???
There was a case here outside Kansas City just a few years ago in which a child's body was fed to pigs. They were however able to find a bone fragment and convict the abuser that killed him. Very sad and disgusting.
They say don’t eat pork 😮
I use to live in Kansas and would drive on the country roads and search for old homestead places to take pictures. Have you checked any of those places? I sure hope they find these two young ladies. I pray that they are found safely and for their family to have closure. ❤
The man let out of prison who she had a Restraining order on is who should be in question and why is noone or their families looking for them???
Why wasn't local law enforcement helping with child handoffs like they do in other areas?
Since when does law enforcement help with that lol
Anyone ever drive in the Western USA? 80 percent of it is Government Land mostly empty and most of the people are packed into densely packed urban areas! Easy to pull up a map showing everything west of Texas is 80 percent Government property which includes national forests, national desert preserves, national parks, etc...
Why would it be human trafficking if there was foul play observed in the car, blood on the road?
You really think women willingly go into slavery?
Sex concentration camp are huge in central America and this region is flooded for long time with criminal crossers from the south where sex slavery is common.
Sad yet again federal and state govt leave locals to hang.
This is very sad...two women never arrives at their destination. I can only imagine how those family members are feelings...probably hard to eat or sleep. I could never imagine living or driving there alone or with someone else. Definitely wouldn't be working at a store alone. 😳
Did the reporter observe whether the driver's side window was smashed in? There have been conflicting reports about this, and their car should have seen the window.
fancy highlighting the poor lady that works alone in a shop there
Sadly, They'll never be found, because of the hogs. I've lived here my entire life and everyone knows that happened
How are you so sure? Did they go visit the cute hogs to pet them?!? What makes you think hogs ate them?
Have you seen other people visiting eaten by hogs? So you said never human trafficking there but now always hogs eating folks.?
So, how many of your friends and relatives were eaten?
This case is like a dog chasing its tail! They may never find out what happened. These women are joined into a tragic club of missing men, women and children. The women were attractive and young and driving in the middle of timbiktu. God help us!
David Paulides missing 411 documentary
You are not even kidding!! So many are going missing and with cell phones, CCTV, car's with camera's and still, poof, they're gone,!!
Who were they meeting to pick up kids? What are those people saying?
What. U think someone was after you guys? No way
Did I see flashing lights on that black SUV? That is what unmarked Oklahoma State Police vehicles look like. I know. I lived there.( THEY look intimidating ).
That's what she said - it's NOT the SUV that followed them!
This is such BS!! NN is lying re: the BIG BLACK TRUCK trying to block them in!! It was a local, LOCAL couple who wanted to check out where the car was found as well!
Shame on YOU NN for LYING about the nefarious intentions of the truck! You owe this local couple an on-air apology as now area residents believe they may be involved in the case!
🙏⚖️
I am from Kansas and there are miles and miles of country where there is not a lot around. Southwest Kansas and the panhandle are very unpopulated. I think people are surprised but there would not be witness's if you wanted to do something. They were not looking because they knew already who they suspected,
There is not a lot of human trafficking in this area.
Journalist said there was…. Huh who are her connections?
Funny how they just dabble that a scary black truck came and then what? So no one can drive on public roads.
Praying for them to be found. Safe. Sadly I don't think they'll be found alive. This isn't looking good at all.
I have a question:
Has anyone searched those Pig Farms?
FYI- pigs eat anything and everything skin, body parts, bones and hair.
Huge coverup
It’s highway 59 but whatever
Why in the hell would they agree to meet at an abandon gas station to pick up the kids? BFO and a pig farm NOT a good match. OMG! A vile world! #VeronicaButler #JilianKelley Praying for thier families and for OSBI and LE to receive the wisdom they need to find out what happened to #Missing #KansasMoms
And next we will hear that is no ordinary pig farm, but one managed by the CDC for COVID research. That’s how damned ridiculous all the rumors are.
Learn how to pronounce ‘rural’
Was there cell service in that area? If so, cell towers grab the actual GPS coordinates off of our phones to detect where we went. That data is stored for years. In a desolate place like that the police also know who else's phone was in that area. Down to the meter. It's no longer the case where the locations are determined by triangulation or by timing a signal to a tower. They know who, what, where within meters.
Lord.. I hope those women are alive.. Look at that place!! I've never seen anything as flat as that!! I live in the Pacific Northwest. I could never live there.. I thought there would be somewhere closer to hide the woman's bodies but, not here.. I so hope they didn't get kidnapped and put into trafficking.. The entire thing is distressing.. 🤔
Californian here, went to Florida and was disoriented by the flat landscape. It was like a location without context.
Pigs cant eat teeth apparently gosh what a way to go I watched the first 48 on the case unspeakable about courtney who was tortured & they said fed to the pigs 😢
That area is crawling with cartel.
Sorrg baving a lady at the gas station dangerious must have a guy there
lol, roads leading to vineyards? You weren’t in No Man’s Land. 😂 The people at four corners tend to keep an eye on their property and will even look out for neighbors’ land if it appears to be trespassed on. The reason these murders are so jarring to our community is because this kind of thing doesn’t happen here. To act like these desolate roads are back alleys in a city is just click bait. You likely unknowingly found yourself in far more comprising situations the morning you spent in OKC than you did on that road.
Sorry for the rant, but our community has been circulating this with frustration for how this area is being portrayed based on one small group’s horrific decisions.
Oklahoma, a red state, uncharacteristically voted to legalize grow farms. This industry attracted ALOT of unsavory enterprise to the state. I just learned, the drug cartel (as in Mexico) is one of them! Bought up large parcels of rural farm lands many chunks of 1000 acres. They have armed guards in these rural locations and couriers that transverse these rural roads. Host gambling horse races with HUGE buy ins. With that another element of Human trafficking. Two women alone in a car, spotty cell coverage. No update. No progress. No arrests. This many not be family drama at all. Politics. The border crisis is REAL.
EPOCH just realized this video: Cartels Taking Over US Land, Threatening Authorities | Trailer | Crossroads
Here is another great read:
Oregon Is Recriminalizing Drugs
Oregon is a BLUE State and realizes now the damage legalizing has done to the state. House Minority Leader Jeff Helfrich said the law illustrated how Republicans “stood united and forced Democrats” to restore criminal penalties. New law takes effect 9-1-24.
When a liberal ran DEM state is turning back the errors, mistakes and protecting society from this scrouge...leading by example. Red states surely will follow.
I was going to say, there are a lot of immigrants in some of those towns out in western ks and ok... And a lot of serious crime to go with them. And yes, the drug cartels in rural america especially where growing MJ is legal are very real.
So 1000 acres? Is there proof of this. I believe you are just fear mongering. This sounds domestic. And there's no threat to the community. Im just saying. Proof would be nice about what you're accusing people of.
Democrats were in control of everything every branch of government and ‘uncharacteristically’ said absolutely nothing about legislation to legalize Maryjane on the federal level. Not even a pop corn fart about it! So why the f is it strange a red state of VOTERS would want sane policy yet the do nothing democrats had the chance and didn’t do diddly squat to legalize didn’t even mention it.
Democrats were in control of everything every branch of government and ‘uncharacteristically’ said absolutely nothing about legislation to legalize Maryjane on the federal level. Not even a pop corn fart about it! So why the f is it strange a red state of VOTERS would want sane policy yet the do nothing democrats had the chance and didn’t do diddly squat to legalize didn’t even mention it.
Okay dude, put your pipe down and stop watching the Fox News Propaganda Channel. Your wild theories are honestly almost laughable. It is indeed a red state and there may be unsavory characters around, but hey - every state has unsavory people. You've just gotta calm down with your crazy-minded thinking! Peace!
You're white suv has tinted windows.
And in a climate as hot and brutal as Oklahoma, tint is important.
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Dang ,I thought I was gonna be first to point out the hog sheds . It seems pretty obvious what happened to them. They got turned into hotdog meat.
They were fed to the pigs.
There are predators hunting women in ALL countries for nefarious resons. It would be biased to assume only the children's father is the abductor 🤔🤔🤔 it would not be justice to ruin any mans name on speculation alone
Nancy Grace always says, “There is a war on women!!”
It's KANSAS. Unless it's Toto missing, no one cares