Fly Tying a Coffin Fly (Extended Body Dry Fly)

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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025

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  • @randymorris8740
    @randymorris8740 3 года назад +3

    Hi Matt, I used squirrel whiskers for my extended body tails for years... They really hold up well... Also, here's a tip I used for years: I cut the eye and the hook point off of an long streamer hook, then used it instead of a needle... The heavy wire of the modified streamer hook tends to flex less than a sewing needle does...

  • @edherrmann182
    @edherrmann182 3 года назад +1

    Matt, extended body flies are really Neet to make. Three techniques I use are Roger Duckworth’s method by using the needle in a portable drill. Then you use silicone on the needle followed by applying dubbing as you power up the drill slowly. I use paint brush bristles for tail or moose mane, or peccary. The nice thing is after you remove the extended body you set them aside to dry. Usually you can make several in several sizes. The nice thing about using silicone is the fly you eventually tie will never sink. The second way is similar to what you did. However I use clear tubing and tie the tail body section. It slips of easy, especially if you use wax. The third way is by using mallard or wood duck and roll the feather lengthwise around the needle and then you take your thread and wrap it. The nice thing about this method is you can use the feather by separating some fibers as the tail (Barry Ord. ) this final method takes practice to get it right. Either way these are all fun to tie.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      Holy cow Ed, these are some great tips! I'm going to look up Roger Duckworth and see how to do it with a drill. That would sure make it easy to do a bunch at a time, let them dry, and then you're ready to tie. I like the rolled woodduck idea too. Thanks for the pointers! I learn a lot by reading all ya'll's comments. :-)

  • @WesternPaFlyFisher
    @WesternPaFlyFisher 3 года назад +2

    I use old hand quilting needles that my wife has worn out from her hobby. I haven't bent one yet. Nice video. Keep them coming.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Great tip! I a few folks have mentioned DMC needles as well. I'm going to have to find something a bit stronger. Thanks for the note. :-)

  • @ybarrajc
    @ybarrajc 3 года назад +1

    Good morning Matt, neat looking fly. Thanks for sharing.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! Always appreciate you watching my friend. :-)

  • @danielyost4379
    @danielyost4379 3 года назад +1

    Good job matt looks good deer hair can be tough have used large porcupine quills

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      Ohh, nice! I've never come across porcupine quills. I might have to look for some. :-)

  • @Hikin70
    @Hikin70 3 года назад

    My heart sank when the thread broke! I have a hard time with extended bodies and have not tied one with bucktail. Will be a good one to give a go. Thanks for the challenge!

  • @garyproctor6044
    @garyproctor6044 3 года назад

    Thanks Matt ---- Glad to know I'm not the only one testing the tensil strength of the thread on a regular basis.... and Thank You for not editing the break out because we need to know how to recover instead of starting over. 👌

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      Thanks Gary! If you watch enough of my videos you'll see plenty of thread breaks. :-) Well, not all the time, but I do it plenty. But what's worse, is when you snip your thread with scissors and watch your hackle unwind! Yep, that happens too. :-)

  • @karljones6594
    @karljones6594 3 года назад +2

    Good morning Matt. Love the choice cool looking fly. A little more than my skill level but will give it a try.Hope you enjoy your Christmas and very one stays safe. Merry Christmas to you and yours from me and mine.

  • @donaldsickles9242
    @donaldsickles9242 3 года назад +1

    This is a good looking fly, it looks like a challenge to tie. I look forward to tying this pattern. thanks Matt

  • @mikeney5113
    @mikeney5113 3 года назад +1

    Very nice Matt.love the pattern.nicely done.different for sure.thanks for sharing

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      You bet Mike! I think the next extended body I'm going to try will be with foam. :-)

  • @cephasmcpher67peteroutdoorspip
    @cephasmcpher67peteroutdoorspip 3 года назад +1

    Hi Matt. Wow, I have 11 days off work for Christmas and New Years and it would probably take me all 11 just to come up with a close facsimile to this fly. I have however tied a Damsel Fly pattern using deer hair. You tie the deer hair tips facing the hook eye using the tips to form a wing and let the butts extend over the bend of the hook and you wrap those with thread to form the extended body. I got lucky I guess and nailed it first try and I keep it on my desk for future reference. I believe if memory serves me correctly that I saw the pattern being tied on a tutorial from tightlinesvideo here on RUclips. All the best, take care.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Great tips, thank you! This does sound like a pattern an expert like Tim Flagler would do. I'm not sure I would even try that technique! Not yet anyway. Thanks for the note and enjoy your 11 days off my friend. :-)

  • @edwardchavez5627
    @edwardchavez5627 3 года назад +1

    Good Morning Sir Matt, great choice on today's fly, I've used this technique several times already and at first it was frustrating and challenging for me but I liked it so much I kept on. The thing I had to remember was proportion how long,thick, and how not to make a big lump when attaching to the hook. You did a great job.
    I love the color choice and the wings, that I've haven't tried yet but I will. Matt and O'Neal Family God Bless You All and Merry 🎄Christmas

  • @gordonmiller4439
    @gordonmiller4439 3 года назад +1

    I'll have to give this one a try and not become too frustrated. ;-)

  • @proflyfisher
    @proflyfisher 3 года назад

    Wow Matt! That was difficult. I always wanted to see one of those tied,very time consuming. Thanks for taking the time showing us the how to on this one. I may give it a try someday. Until next time. 👍

  • @rickpayne3915
    @rickpayne3915 2 года назад

    Interesting technique on tying this fly!
    Informative video Matt.
    Keep of the good videos

  • @johnsamothrakis4621
    @johnsamothrakis4621 3 года назад

    GM MATT. All I can say is WOW. Great Name for this Fly . COFFIN because it’s a killer to Tie LOL. You need a little getaway after this one 😀👍

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Ha! That does make me wonder how this insect got it's name. :-)

  • @robertsmith6504
    @robertsmith6504 3 года назад

    Very nice looking fly, thanks for having a go Matt, I think I will leave trying this one until I have a lot more practice

  • @chevyguy6510
    @chevyguy6510 3 года назад

    I think this may be one ill try later ( rookie tier) I am still learning a lot from these videos. Thanks Matt!

  • @garrettswoodworx1873
    @garrettswoodworx1873 3 года назад +1

    Very interesting fly! One of the very valuable things I've learned from your channel is that I need to get better at tying before I attempt something like this one! Thanks for showing us the challenges as well as the successes because many of us learn more from the challenges than from the successes! Travel safe and have a wonderful Christmas with your family.

  • @crowdaddy8355
    @crowdaddy8355 3 года назад

    WOW. You gave us a tough one today. Thanks Matt.

  • @jeffreystone7327
    @jeffreystone7327 3 года назад +1

    Wow!!! Cool looking fly. Not meant for me. That’s waaaaay down the road. Very interesting to watch. Totally different from anything I have ever seen. Thank you for sharing this one buddy. Very impressive. You deserve a good break after this one. Great video.

  • @toddslichter7831
    @toddslichter7831 3 года назад

    Extended bodies are not the easiest thing to tie...great job, Matt. Have a safe trip. Merry Christmas.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Todd! Just heading out to the farm so nothing too exciting. But relaxing and waiting for Santa to visit the kids. :-)

  • @Graham-1888
    @Graham-1888 3 года назад +2

    Another very nice fly and its actually good to see mistakes, makes it more real 😂 I used to do a lot of the extended hair bodies but I now prefer to use the 2mm foam cylinders in the natural colours like tan, cream, olive, black and brown, flash the end with a lighter and you get a super realistic profile and it floats very well and lasts a long time.
    Have a lovely Xmas 😉

  • @Jd-yc3gw
    @Jd-yc3gw 3 года назад

    Good morning Matt. All I can say is wow! That is quite the fly. I wondered how those extended bodies were tied now I can say I’ve seen it done. Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas and safe travels during the holiday season. Take care my friend.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      Thanks John! Merry Christmas to you too my friend! I'll be heading out to my farm tomorrow... it might be cold in the mountains of western Maryland, but nothing like up in your neck of the woods. :-)

  • @dennisfretz1814
    @dennisfretz1814 3 года назад

    Nice ty, doesn't matter the fish don't know what a ferfeque bug looks like it's food . Tight lines Denny

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      Oh yeah Denny, there aren't a lot of perfect flies in any of my fly boxes. :-)

  • @markfritch3168
    @markfritch3168 3 года назад

    Fun fly. I have not tied a lot of extended bodies, but being open to different techniques is important to improve your skills. I watched a video on this a while back where Barry Ord Clark tied one on a curved shank. I have not tried that but a couple of tips from his technique were very beneficial. One was he waxed the shank before tying to aid the removal process, allowing you to tie a bit tighter. The other was forming a loop when finishing a segment that your bobbin would fit through and then tightened instead of trying to extend a half hitch or whip finish around the body. I use a heavier needle, however, my extended bodies are for damsel flies, which are prolific here in Idaho. You made me grin on the thread break and keeping it real is why we love your channel. Merry Christmas to all! Continued blessings my friend

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Oh yeah Mark, Barry did one recently with a twisted piece of synthetic yarn. That thing looked great! I may to a foam one in a couple of weeks just to show that these don't have to be this hard. Great tip on waxing the needle and using a stronger one. I'm definitely learning from reading all these comments. Thanks for the note and Merry Christmas to you too my friend!

    • @markfritch3168
      @markfritch3168 3 года назад

      Yes I saw that one. He is so creative and makes everything that he does look so easy, when in fact, some of his techniques can be quite challenging. Thanks for the holiday wishes. Be well.

  • @davehall2160
    @davehall2160 3 года назад

    Great job Matt, it definitely looks like a tuff one
    Will have to give it a try
    Thanks for the video

  • @jeromypegg
    @jeromypegg 3 года назад

    Dang Matt that would be a display fly. Hope to be that good someday. Absolutely stunning

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Ha! Thanks Jeromy. I'm probably going to take a break from tying any extended body flies... unless I do it with foam. :-)

  • @ninacleven7889
    @ninacleven7889 3 года назад

    Nice one, I always enjoy seeing what flies you come up with and this one looks neat although I think it's more than I could tackle at this point.

  • @jimholland1592
    @jimholland1592 3 года назад

    Merry Christmas Matt☕️☕️
    Sometimes those extended body can be tough but you did well. Just got back from NC I did not even get on the board they were tough. But my granddaughter was amazing! Thanks for all your efforts 👍

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Jim! And hey, wait a second... I just noticed you have no beard in your thumbnail? Is this an old picture or did you shave off that manly ZZ-top beard you were sporting this summer??

    • @jimholland1592
      @jimholland1592 3 года назад +1

      @@SavageFlies Lol, that was 2009 January 1st at Foster Fall. My daughter took me rock climbing for my birthday. I was never that good at it. But I encouraged my kids to love and respect the outdoors. And the took it from there. And yes still have the beard. And I love and grew up with ZZ Top and the The Allman Brothers Ban 🤣🤣🤣

  • @leonardwells9613
    @leonardwells9613 3 года назад +5

    Recommend you use DMC needles, they REALLY hold up, then you can tighten up the extended body. L 👍🎣👍

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      Outstanding tip; thanks Leonard! I'm definitely going to try and pick some up. :-)

  • @bigdaddy99929
    @bigdaddy99929 3 года назад

    Most certainly a challenge. I’ve never tied any extended bodies even foam. I’ll try it, someday. Lol. Thx Matt!! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Clyde! This pattern reminded me of the dragonfly I tie with a foam body so I might do that one soon. :-)

  • @DarrellOlson
    @DarrellOlson 3 года назад +1

    Great challenging fly for sure. I have some peccary hair on order. I will have to add this one to the list to try. Any thought on using a tube fly tool to create the tail instead of a needle? Merry Christmas

  • @pablogarza4793
    @pablogarza4793 3 года назад

    Merry Christmas 🎅 Matt and every fly maker.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      Thanks Pablo and to you too my friend!

  • @martyrothman3933
    @martyrothman3933 3 года назад +1

    Merry Christmas Matt

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Marty; you too my friend! I'm scrambling right now to get two videos done tonight for Thursday and Saturday. They're pretty easy patterns but I think you'll like them. :-)

  • @michaelmerlino6753
    @michaelmerlino6753 3 года назад

    Nice fly Matt.Have a great Christmas.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      Thanks Michael! I see your email... thanks for those great tips too. :-)

  • @FlyTyer1948
    @FlyTyer1948 3 года назад

    Well done, Matt. This is one pain in the butt to tie. A needle for stitching for leather is stiffer & can make this a tad easier to tie, but it’s still a pain. Foam or a piece of braided fishing line is much easier. I tried one of these with bucktail. It took way too long, & the result wasn’t close to as good as yours. Bravo, sir.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Well thank you Bob, I appreciate the kind words. I really almost gave up on this one but it was almost midnight and I certainly didn't feel like starting a new tie. And I figure a lot of the viewers here are pretty new tiers and they might appreciate knowing that we all struggle sometimes. That being said, I did take the easy way out tonight and whipped up two simple patterns for Thursday and Saturday's videos. :-)

    • @FlyTyer1948
      @FlyTyer1948 3 года назад

      @@SavageFlies Sensible to follow with less tough flies. The worst thing for me was tying mine on with a lot of mating flies on the water, & I hung my first & only Coffin Fly high up in a tree that snuck up behind me on my first back cast. An Ill omen that told me not to tie that one again. :-(

  • @MyItalians
    @MyItalians 3 года назад

    Morning Matt, like the extended body. For me, I always use buck tail. FYI, I use a piece of thread to sperate the 3 hair tail before I make the body. You may want too try it or not. Thanks for your time before the holiday.
    Merry Christmas

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      I definitely will Nich! If I tie any more of these darn things. I think the next extended body I do will be with foam. :-)

  • @johnnylightning1491
    @johnnylightning1491 3 года назад

    Interesting use of the needle, I've never seen that before, but then I'm more of a streamer guy so that doesn't surprise me. Maybe some music wire from the hobby shop would make the body a little tighter if you can get it stiff enough in a smaller diameter. Keep the good stuff coming Matt.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      Thanks! A lot of folks mentioned using DMC or stronger quilting, or leathercraft needles. I just grabbed a plain old needle out of my wife's sewing kit. What do I know?! Thanks for the note and Merry Christmas my friend. :-)

  • @__magnus__3162
    @__magnus__3162 3 года назад

    Great pattern definitely going to be trying

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      Thanks Magnus! Appreciate it my friend. :-)

  • @harryjoesather6539
    @harryjoesather6539 3 года назад

    more difficult one there matt but nice job on it for not tying a lot of them and cool name also...thanks see ya joe

  • @joeduca8582
    @joeduca8582 3 года назад

    Challenging to say the least, kudos Matt. I fooled around making extended bodies with a soft foam but never tied it to a hook, so I can't give any tips, other than I'd try a different method. That looks like it could be a tippet twister. I'm aware of them but never seen Coffin flies in the wild. I have seen Hexagenia on some of our Finger Lakes. That fly you tied could be a Hex in different colors. The biggest mayfly I've tied is the Iso for when I fished in the Adirondacks, but that wasn't extended. So it's the first day of Winter, you keeping that cool beard for the season, or shave it when you mess up a trim like I do. Merry Christmas!!!!!

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Funny you mention the Hexagenia, as I saw an example of an extended body one of those with this same method. And I agree, this could probably be a tippet twister and we'd probably have to be pretty economical with our false casting to keep this thing from becoming a mess. I may try this again with a foam body, either as a hex, green drake, or a dragonfly if I want to go big. Dragonflies can be fun with their funky colors. Okay, one more video to edit and then off to the farm early in the morning! Stay safe my friend. :-)

  • @sallysanderson3627
    @sallysanderson3627 3 года назад

    I will have to try buck tail. I make extended bodies from pipe insulation.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      That sounds pretty cool Sally... do you mean like that black closed cell foam around water pipes?

  • @brianfeeney9493
    @brianfeeney9493 3 года назад

    Hope You had a Merry Christmas 🎄 Matt !!!
    MIDNR just lowered the Creel Limit for Steelhead from 3 to 1 Fish Daily here in Michigan ……. Still tying and fishing 🎣 for them however. Let me know if you ever, lol, have time to twist some patterns up for me to fish 🎣. Enjoy time with Your family and a Best New Year 🎉 to You !!!

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Ha! I suck Brian. I've probably got six or eight flies for you sitting on my bench. I tell you what... I'm off work this week. I'll whip up a few more and drop them in the mail. I still think it would be awesome if a fly we created actually caught a steelhead! And... I haven't forgotten that we want to tie one called the Banana Split. :-)

    • @brianfeeney9493
      @brianfeeney9493 3 года назад

      Hey Matt ,
      Not at All Brother !!!!! What with running a Family and Work and Your Channel and all Your Responsibilities and trying to fish and hunt yourself …… NOT a concern in the least !!!
      I just wanted to let you know that our numbers here in Michigan are WAY - OFF since 2001, and they are putting on the brakes to conserve the BREEDERS. We release 99% of the Steelhead historically …… it’s simply getting tougher to catch the CHROMERS . Time on the River is our goal, and a catch is a Bonus ✨🎣✨
      Be Well and Happy 2022 Brother !!!!!

    • @brianfeeney9493
      @brianfeeney9493 3 года назад

      I’ll work on that “ BANANA 🍌 SPLIT “ on my end and we will see what we can come up with in 2022 !!!!! 😃
      ✨🎣💫

  • @jamesday3216
    @jamesday3216 3 года назад

    Wow Matt that's a great looking fly but I think I'll wait until I get a little bit more experience tying before I try it.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      You know James, sometimes I like to try flies that are too hard for my skill level. If I pull it off, great... but if I just can't get it right, I try not to get too frustrated and I tell myself, "I'll come back to this one next year." Like the deer hair humpy that kicked my butt last year. It might be time to try that one again. :-)

    • @jamesday3216
      @jamesday3216 3 года назад

      @@SavageFlies Sounds like a great way to do things. I'll try to tie it sooner than later. When I do I'll let you know.

  • @JeremyTrethewey
    @JeremyTrethewey 2 года назад

    I’m going to try this using a foam parachute post

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  2 года назад

      I'm sure you can make that work! Good luck my friend. :-)

  • @edpeter9411
    @edpeter9411 3 года назад +1

    Very cool fly but I can see why you said in the intro this fly kicked your tail. I think I’ll keep buying these until my skills improve. Or forever.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Ha! I think I'll do one with a foam body soon to show how easy it can actually be. And redeem myself after this tough one!

  • @johnryan8159
    @johnryan8159 3 года назад

    I don't think I have the patience for that tie. You could make an awesome Brown Drake though or a hex for that matter

  • @jebar01
    @jebar01 3 года назад

    Great video. Matt, I am new to your channel but I just received my copy of "The Classic Streamer Fly Box" by Mike Valla and you are "spot on"!! The book is just amazing and am thoroughly satisfied with it. Could you possibly tie the "multi-wing streamer"? I am curious how you would place the re and yellow wings. Again, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year from my family to yours. The book is truly awesome!! Jim

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      Thanks Jim, I appreciate the kind words! I just took a look at the Multi-wing Streamer and this is actually a pretty simple pattern. Getting the wings tied in will be pretty simply; the hard part will be picking the best saddle hackle feathers for them. I would pre-glue the 4-6 feathers together and then tie to the hook in one clump. For me I think the hardest part will be getting that beautifully flat tinsel body that Mike Valla does so expertly! I'll add this one to my to-do list. Maybe even the Nine-three too. Have you looked at that thing? Wow, that's a beauty! Thanks again for the note. Cheers. -Matt

  • @marshallbaldwin8960
    @marshallbaldwin8960 2 года назад

    OMG! It looks great but I’m thinking down the road will be best to keep me sane. Lol

  • @josephbroadus2122
    @josephbroadus2122 2 года назад

    Are T pins to large to use? I was thinking more for the vise to grip and stronger less flex. Just asking.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  2 года назад +1

      Actually T-pins might be a better choice Joseph. I'd give it a try and as long as you could slide the body off easily enough, you should be good to go!

  • @JohnBennette-s2h
    @JohnBennette-s2h Год назад

    I like it

  • @cowboycody8094
    @cowboycody8094 2 года назад

    How small of a hook do you think one would need to use to go after a 3 or 4 inch fish? I had some small fish going after my olive blue dun on a #14 dry fly hook but I didn't catch them. I assume the hook was too big. Just courious.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  2 года назад +1

      You'd be surprised at how small of a fish can hook itself trying to eat a #12 or 14 fly. And certainly an 18 or 20 dry fly, even some very small guys can get that in their mouth. I usually try to leave these fish alone though, as they're pretty fragile when that small. And if I'm seeing a bunch of really tiny fish coming up for my fly, I assume there are no decent fish in that stretch and I'll move on. But don't get me wrong- I've certainly caught my share of 4-inch fish. I just feel a little bad when I Huck Finn it out of the river when setting the hook. :-)

    • @cowboycody8094
      @cowboycody8094 2 года назад

      @@SavageFlies thank you I was able to catch some bigger fish out of that fool once I figure it out where they were feeding. I kind of figured they were fragile I was just curious. I also just kind of wanted to get a good look and see what they were.

  • @robertpetersen9450
    @robertpetersen9450 3 года назад

    Try a bit of wax on the needle before starting the extended body.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад

      Great tip Robert! I think a couple other folks have mentioned that too so it really must work. :-)

  • @martyrothman3933
    @martyrothman3933 3 года назад +1

    Okay I think this one's a little out of my league but I'll keep going and maybe one day.......

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 года назад +1

      Well let's do one with a foam body and you'll see how easy that technique can be. The bucktail is just a pain. :-)

  • @kirkdonnelly7982
    @kirkdonnelly7982 6 месяцев назад

    Should.of used hen hackle for wings there too thin trout really key in on these an can be extremely picky about profile

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  6 месяцев назад

      Good tip Kirk, but if I recall, all my hen hackle was far too wide for wings like these.