When you review 3 things for backcourt at approximately 8:30, need to add exception of ball touching court or official in front court and rebounding to back court. In those cases the ball obviously doesn't touch a player in front court.
@@BetterOfficials , The play where passed from bc, hits official in fc, and returns to bc. Or passes with spin to fc and returns to bc. Never actually touches a player in fc. (Clear green split-pea soup?) Lol
How would the rule apply if team A establishes front court status. Player A1 passes the ball to A2 but the ball is high and off target, sailing past the division line into the the backcourt "airspace". While the ball is still in the air and before ever hitting the ground in the backcourt, A2 leaps from the front court and "?saves?" The ball while in the air themselves and while also still in the backcourt airspace grabs the airborne ball and passes it back to A1 in the frontcourt before A2 lands entirely in the backcourt? My guess of the interpretation would be that this would be a legal play since the team established front Court status with team control and the player a2 maintained front Court status when leaping into the air and touching the ball and the ball returning to A1 in the front Court. In other words, I'm interpreting that it's not about whether the ball touches the ground but whether the player does. Am I making sense?
Help me out. Team A has established team control in their front court. A5 passes to A1. A1 was trailing play in backcourt jumps, catches pass mid jump. Player A1 lands with both feet in the front court. Is that a violation?
One I was hoping to see is: A1 dribbles across half court line and establishes front court team/player control. A1 trapped by B1 & B2 in front court. A2 is running towards front court. A1 passes to A2 as A2 jumps from back court is in the air catches the ball and lands in front court. Is this a back court violation?
Hey Greg. I love your videos! I wanted to clarify your question regarding the player who dribbles from the backcourt, dibbles into the frontcourt while maintaining backcourt status but then retreats to the backcourt. Wouldn't this violate 9-9 Art 2? Didn't they make the ball go from the backcourt to the frontcourt and back to the backcourt with their team being the first to touch it in the backcourt?
Hi Allen, Great question! The key to the answer is frontcourt status . The ball does not have frontcourt status until the dribbler has frontcourt status. The dribbler does not have frontcourt status until all three points are in the front Court . So you have a situation where the ball bounces in the frontcourt and yet the ball does not have the status of the frontcourt in this situation. Kind of funky but that's what it is.
Rule 4 SECTION 13 COURT AREAS ART. 1 . . . A team’s frontcourt consists of that part of the court between its end line and the nearer edge of the division line, including its basket and the inbounds part of the backboard. ART. 2 . . . A team’s backcourt consists of the rest of the court, including the entire division line and the opponent’s basket and inbounds part of the opponent’s backboard.
A bit out of context as it relates to the rules. Status of a player is determined by where on the court they are touching, or, if airborne, where they LAST were in contact with the floor. An airborne player's body could be fully over the backcourt area, or an out of bounds area and yet their status not so much.
Hey y'all...I had a play that I think I got correct, but I can't find it in the rules book. Ball is in front court, then player passes to teammate jumping from backcourt to front court. Teammate catches the ball while in the air and lands in front court. Back court violation right? No? Where in the rule book can I find clarification on this one
Hi Coulson! That would be a backcourt violation by rule. The key to understanding this is understanding the rule for the violation itself which is RULE 9 - SECTION 9 BACKCOURT. In addition, we must as basketball officials be masters of status. What is the status of the player? What is the status of the ball? What determines that status? The answer is going to be found in RULE 4 - SECTION 4 BALL LOCATION, and RULE 4 - SECTION 35 PLAYER LOCATION.
@@BetterOfficials all of the stakeholders but especially officials because they have to bear the blunt the verbal abuse from fans especially at the high school level,
Best detailed backcourt explanation ive heard too date!! Thank you
Play scenario 3 happened last night in my game and I remembered this video so thank you!!
Outstanding explanation! Thanks for the video!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
Great explanation 3 elements
Thank you for all you do I am a new official and this has helped a lot
I love your video episodes,my officiating has greatly improved I get that from coaches who saw me starting
Thanks for this great explanation! I'm a brand new referee so this channel is so helpful!
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When you review 3 things for backcourt at approximately 8:30, need to add exception of ball touching court or official in front court and rebounding to back court. In those cases the ball obviously doesn't touch a player in front court.
Hi Jeff, not sure what your distinction is. Touching the court not a factor in the 'formula.' Clarify?
@@BetterOfficials , The play where passed from bc, hits official in fc, and returns to bc.
Or passes with spin to fc and returns to bc. Never actually touches a player in fc.
(Clear green split-pea soup?) Lol
@@jeffgrzybowski5322 Yes. We have the throw-in exception, and then the Article 2 Super Duper exception. I'm keeping that separate as it is so rare.
@@BetterOfficials yeah, 30+ years and I've never encountered.
How would the rule apply if team A establishes front court status. Player A1 passes the ball to A2 but the ball is high and off target, sailing past the division line into the the backcourt "airspace". While the ball is still in the air and before ever hitting the ground in the backcourt, A2 leaps from the front court and "?saves?" The ball while in the air themselves and while also still in the backcourt airspace grabs the airborne ball and passes it back to A1 in the frontcourt before A2 lands entirely in the backcourt?
My guess of the interpretation would be that this would be a legal play since the team established front Court status with team control and the player a2 maintained front Court status when leaping into the air and touching the ball and the ball returning to A1 in the front Court. In other words, I'm interpreting that it's not about whether the ball touches the ground but whether the player does. Am I making sense?
You are making complete sense and you are completely correct. Legal play by Rule!
Help me out. Team A has established team control in their front court. A5 passes to A1. A1 was trailing play in backcourt jumps, catches pass mid jump. Player A1 lands with both feet in the front court. Is that a violation?
It is all about status.
Team control on the court.
Team A last to touch in frontcourt.
When A1 touches the ball, what is the status of that player?
One I was hoping to see is: A1 dribbles across half court line and establishes front court team/player control. A1 trapped by B1 & B2 in front court. A2 is running towards front court. A1 passes to A2 as A2 jumps from back court is in the air catches the ball and lands in front court. Is this a back court violation?
As described, this would be a back court violation by rule. The status of A2 was back court status. When they touched the ball they violated.
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Hey Greg. I love your videos! I wanted to clarify your question regarding the player who dribbles from the backcourt, dibbles into the frontcourt while maintaining backcourt status but then retreats to the backcourt. Wouldn't this violate 9-9 Art 2? Didn't they make the ball go from the backcourt to the frontcourt and back to the backcourt with their team being the first to touch it in the backcourt?
Hi Allen, Great question! The key to the answer is frontcourt status . The ball does not have frontcourt status until the dribbler has frontcourt status. The dribbler does not have frontcourt status until all three points are in the front Court . So you have a situation where the ball bounces in the frontcourt and yet the ball does not have the status of the frontcourt in this situation. Kind of funky but that's what it is.
@@BetterOfficials Makes sense. Thanks for clarifying. That's why you say Article 2 is so funky. It mainly only applies when a pass is involved.
Question - is the division line in the front court or back court? Or neither?
Rule 4 SECTION 13 COURT AREAS
ART. 1 . . . A team’s frontcourt consists of that part of the court between its end line and the nearer edge of the division line, including its basket and the inbounds part of the backboard.
ART. 2 . . . A team’s backcourt consists of the rest of the court, including the entire division line and the opponent’s basket and inbounds part of the opponent’s backboard.
This might sound like a dumb question let's say he touches the line with one foot is that over and back or is it the player whole body
A bit out of context as it relates to the rules. Status of a player is determined by where on the court they are touching, or, if airborne, where they LAST were in contact with the floor. An airborne player's body could be fully over the backcourt area, or an out of bounds area and yet their status not so much.
Hey y'all...I had a play that I think I got correct, but I can't find it in the rules book.
Ball is in front court, then player passes to teammate jumping from backcourt to front court. Teammate catches the ball while in the air and lands in front court. Back court violation right? No? Where in the rule book can I find clarification on this one
Hi Coulson!
That would be a backcourt violation by rule. The key to understanding this is understanding the rule for the violation itself which is RULE 9 - SECTION 9 BACKCOURT.
In addition, we must as basketball officials be masters of status. What is the status of the player? What is the status of the ball? What determines that status? The answer is going to be found in RULE 4 - SECTION 4
BALL LOCATION, and RULE 4 - SECTION 35 PLAYER LOCATION.
@@BetterOfficials Ahhhh... just looked it up. I gotta get to know the rule book better. You're a boss... coffee coming your way. Thanks again.
Also very frustrating listening to college commenters talking about rules since in most cases they don't understand the rule.
And who bears the brunt of this misinformation? 🙃
@@BetterOfficials all of the stakeholders but especially officials because they have to bear the blunt the verbal abuse from fans especially at the high school level,
Where is video with moments???