The AMAZING Reason Why Fallout's Pip-Boy Exists
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2023
- You might be familiar with the Pip-Boy, but do you know WHY this was a big jump forward for RPG games? Do you know where the Pip-Boy came from? Who invented it? Why are the so many different models?
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vaults got pip-boys because of a partnership deal between vault tek and robco and pip-boys had special hardware like connectors and propriety hardware for terminals and even vault doors and maintenance, some things which were used by engineers or other workers in the vaults but players don't need that so it's not added for players because we are going to be doing realistic maintenance on a nuclear reactor in a vault in a fallout game anytime soon but it's also why in fallout 3 the pip-boy had to be basically factory reset for the player because it was likely one that was used by someone who was a maintenance worker or something along those lines so it needed to be properly set for the player character so the 10 year old doesn't cause a meltdown
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My favorite detail about the pip boy is that it takes AP to open in combat, PEAK roleplaying
The Mr.Handy/Mr.Gutsy/Ms.Nanny line is made by General Atomics.
They jointly worked with robco on Both Liberty Prime and Robobrains.
Also the Original Pipboy 2000 from fallout 1&2 let you read holotapes too. There were only a few in total but it was a function.
From at least 2070 Robco and General atomics worked together to refine Mr. Handy into the bot we recognize. Its offshoots are a product of that too
Those "light bulbs" are actually vacuum tubes, which is what early computers were made from, before the transistor was invented. The reason they appeared in game was because they are easier to make and supposedly more likely to survive EMP blasts from nuclear bombs, which would fry normal transistors.
Not quite, in Fallout Lore they didn't invent transistors at the same time as we did. They were invented much much later and then not as popular as vacuum tubes as miniaturization wasn't a priority.
The most realistic way to show a reasoning for older models and newer ones later in lore is that in the Fallout show, we see that rich individuals owned their own vaults and they chose which Pip-boys they want to use either for personalization for their experiments or budget cuts to save money for themselves or on the vault projects themselves. If Bethesda was working on a in-lore reason, this would be the easiest and most firm way to do it
I imagine that military equipment such as Pip-Boys were granted to vault dwellers, because nobody knew the outcome of either the environment or the societal structures beyond the fallout. The vaults were never designed as a permanent solution, and the dwellers were established as a final measure for society to rebuild; and so it was likely considered advantageous to provide them with a piece of equipment that could aid them in surviving the perils of the wasteland. And if need be, the Pip-Boy was just one piece of equipment that could help them as troops if they needed to form a civilian army in the absence of any official army.
Exactly.
It has been exactly 30years since work on Fallout began
a MAME FRAME would obviously be a giant building size computer that is used in the Fallout universe so that, even though they didn't invent transistors until much much later than we did, they could still spend their version of the 1990s playing Street Fight II Alpha, Truxton II, and TMNT - Turtles in Time.
In Fallout 3 Stanley, the engineer in the vault and the one who fixes your pipboy to functioning order, calls it the "pipboy 3000-A" model. Not sure where or why the A comes in but it is there. Also the wrist idea with the 3000 is odd cause it has a scroll wheel on the right (right? I swear it has another wheel or knob on the right...) and a knob on the glove too. Oh yeah and how could the courier have mick swap the pipboy for the pimpboy if its biometrics are connected to his arm? Cause the 3000 is stated to "youd have to chop your hand off to get it off" basically paraphrased, also from Stanley.
How could doc mitch give you his old pipboy if it was connected to him so badly?
Ok thank you lol I was like I thought they were like forever attached to you but I couldn’t remember I kept wait for him to talk about that and in fallout 4 it is assumed that the only reason you can take the one on the skeleton is bc well there’s no biometrics left? And I think when you put it on it says something about it too?
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Also, about the discussion at 9:23, its true but, again, for the same reasons we in our timeline buy smart watches, the people of fallout use pip-boys. Some things arent immediately felt and you have to measure them somehow
I actually played Fallout 2 as my first game from the series (def waaaay to young to appreciate it), not knowing English too well, and I had this mental image of GECK being the Pip Boy. Big suitcase stuffed with pipes and tubes and other electronics with small screen inside.
Fallout pnp got that. Waaaay before bethesda retcon.
I thought Mr Handy was made by General Atomic?
It ended up being a joint venture between the two companies.
@@FalloutLorecast huh! I didn't know that! I know Codsworth talks shit about the RobCo Protectron, so that's part of why I was confused
@@MrSaturnMusic And being "The pride of General Atomics, Int'l"
The vaults might have incorporated the Pipboys because of their ulterior purpose wherein they're performing tests on the vault dwellers as a way of researching the various potential aspects involved with long term space travel. This is was done as a "step two" to the species survival plan that was put in motion with the construction of the vaults. The contingency they were looking at was the potential for a world wide nuclear exchange to leave the planet completely uninhabitable, forcing humanity to flee to the stars in search of another home (honestly, a stupid and futile measure if you're serious about things, but a good excuse for some really insidiously evil experiments). They most likely candidates for a long term space voyage would be the military pilots and personnel who were engaged in space travel before the bombs dropped, which are a population who are equipped with pipboys as standard issue. They is also the idea that you'd want everyone on your spaceship to be wearing a pipboy so that they can be monitored as well as interface with the ship's systems in the most efficient manor available to them. If you plan on the space morons having pipboys, then it's a good idea to include pipboys in your experiment vaults.
Some of the Vaults, like #76 were to rebuild the world. Those people would need a tool to help them better facilitate this away from the Vault. Additionally, as stated by others, doing things like operating and maintaining Vault Systems would require sophisticated tools. The Pip-Boy was uniquely qualified to the role, though not its original purpose. So, Vault-Tec drew up a contract, and both companies profited from it. I imagined Vault-Tec Security and Vault-Tec Engineering Corps both used the Pip-Boy as a recruiting tool for their prospective teams.
i would believe the rust devils would call one of their robots the maim-frame
As some one who loves Vacuum tubes i wish the pipboy was something that could actually be possible in real life with tube technology. As well as other tech in fallout based on tubes too like Zax appears to be (at least partially)
for military use, you'd be surprised how often soldiers don't even know they've been shot or mortally wounded because of the massive adrenalin surge that blocks most of the pain and the fighting around you being a distraction. having a screen that can tell you "hey, you have a injured leg" could be a great help as you can then address the problem way sooner instead of when someone else points it out or you start getting the pain surges.
the same applies to the dwellers. they aren't going to stay in there forever, they'll eventually have to venture out from those vaults into unknown territory and having a device that can still interact with the big corporations technology and tell you things about your body and the environment would be a big benefit.
You can track the development of the Fallout universe's technology with the different iterations of the PipBoy. The 2000 was essentially a bulky, low-tech ipad like the electronic clipboards from original Star Trek, the predecessors to the PADD in TNG. The 3000 is more like a super bulky smartwatch, amazingly small for the amount of utility it packs.
They could also work to collect user-specific and biological data during the vault experiments.
The Pipbiy 2000 doesnt seem to be wearable. My assumption is initial idea were for wearable computer but they just weren't able to make it small enough.
I doubt the 1.0 made it past prototype stage, I imagine a scenario not unlike Steve Jobs' reaction to seeing the first iPod prototype, according to Former Apple employee Amit Chaudhary , which ended with Jobs dropping the iPod into an aquarium:
When engineers working on the very first iPod completed the prototype, they presented their work to Steve Jobs for his approval. Jobs played with the device, scrutinized it, weighed it in his hands, and promptly rejected it. It was too big.
The engineers explained that they had to reinvent inventing to create the iPod, and that it was simply impossible to make it any smaller. Jobs was quiet for a moment. Finally he stood, walked over to an aquarium, and dropped the iPod in the tank. After it touched bottom, bubbles floated to the top.
"Those are air bubbles," he snapped. "That means there's space in there. Make it smaller."
It's a lesson that seems to have stuck with Apple's engineers, too.
The original iPod was 19.8 mm thin. Years later, Apple's most recent iPod is only 6.1 mm thin, and all the space is used.
Personal Information Processors are some of the finest Personal Computers RobCo ever made. And it was for a corporation RobCo was secretly plotting against.
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Your cellphone incorporates technology developed for the military. The camera - spy satellites. The Wifi - interoperability. Multitasking - signals intelligence. Bless the Cold War if you love your cellphone.
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$1,500 for a Pip-Boy 3000!?
My computer costs more than that!
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Wait I thought that pip boys were like attracted to your arm and you couldn’t take them off and that’s why you can take the one in fallout 4 bc it’s on a skeleton and the arm it was attached to has rotted away… I also thought they talked about that in like fallout 3 when you get your first pip boy but I don’t know
For some reason and i blame Operation Anchorage for it...i thought until Fallout 4 that Pipboys were like the omnitrix something that was Atached to you and you couldnt take of and others couldn't take it off unles they pried it from your corpse...and that that might damage the device...why i thought that? I began playing on 3 annnnnd well on the dlc the Outcast kill a Gary for the Pipboy and they cant use it to access the simulation
if fallout 1 was made today i would bet it would be a vr game
Interesting , Thank You .
I demand a maim frame. 🤣🤣
I mean you can do what Elder Scrolls did and just have a backpack UI or be inventive
10:40 um actually Mr. Handys were made by General Atomics International 🤓🤓
Nobody expands on Stanleys comments, Some may think the A series a bit basic, but I've always preferred them for their reliability." So its a PipBoy 3000-A.
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Soy-Lent. The reference comes from "make room, make room", an old sci-fi novel from the 60's. It was about "Soylent steaks" which were made from soy beans and lentils because meat was too expensive in that world, unless you were super rich.
I find it interesting you completely ignored the fact that the Pip-Boy in Fallout 3 came with a matching glove, with a large dial on the top of your hand when wearing it. This was so you didn't have to cross over the screen. It was in many of the images you showed in the video, but you never put it all together. It was shown in many of the developer images, but again you seemed to miss it. You can't cover Pip-Boy's without being complete and showing that the device could be used with the glove or without it. Also, in Fallout 3, the Pip-Boy was seemingly semi permanently attacked to the wearer. It couldn't be easily be removed without amputation or the persons death. Thos was very clearly covered in the games DLC. I love how things this are just brushed under the rug and ignored.
I feel like if we had such a good grip on our bodies needs right from the brain we currently wouldnt be wearing things like wrist-worn fitness trackers that tell us how our sleep, hydration and heart rate are doing.
Our bodies evolved over millions of years to tell us what they need.
Smart watches are a modern tech trend that mainly exist because big tech companies are making 300 bucks off every unit sold, not because people need them.
so erm, girl of the north country?
No, no, no, no. Mr. Handy and Miss Nanny, along with Mr. Gutsy, Mr. Orderly, and the Robobrains were made by General Atomics, Int'l.
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Pip-Boy 2000 was on belt. Not wrist held.
Dont get all your knowledge from Bethesda. They do retcon, almost everything. eeverything
I’m pretty sure the original manual for fallout 1 says it is wrist mounted
some of their retcons were good, like pretending fallout bos didnt exist
Another Bethesda hater
Acknowledging the fact that they have retconned things doesn’t equal to hating on them. It’s simply an observation that is objectively true
Glad to have turn based and FPS rgs mansplained to me 🤣