They are not married at time this was filmed. They dated for long time, and moved in together. They got married in 2018, and now have a son and a daughter.😊
Just 5 dudes casually watching their on-screen bro Robb get some. Such a wholesome relationship man, it gets juicy near the end of the series, probably the best relationship for the whole series.
24:30 "this music gets me bro" THANK YOU MCKAY!!!!!!!!! The Stark theme will always always give me chills. The strength in the desparation of it. Ramin Djawadi KILLED
I wouldn't blame cat, even their own people warned her that jamie won't last the night (someone's gonna kill him) out of anger after his attempt to escape, and if he died, her only chance to gain her girls back is nada. Hence why she sent him to king's landing with brienne for an exchange. It was rob the one who was jeopardising everything, his people, his family, by choosing talisa and breaking his promise with the freys bc of a romantic interest that he could not afford to have at that time. In the end, he is still a child.
The folly is the Frey's, Bolton's, and the Lannister's for breaking a sacrosanct law of guest right, this is made even more clear in the books, if anything the Red Wedding made things more chaotic and untenable for the conspirators involved. Catelyn releasing Jaime objectively weakened their position considerably, the 'security' of Jaime's well-being wasn't in Cat's mind when she released him, and something terrible could have just as easily happened to both Brienne and Jaime while out on the road, and in fact almost did several times, Robb could have secured Jaime at Riverrun if it became too much of a danger to allow him in camp, his own blood wouldn't have sold him out to Tywin Lannister, not even Edmure, the vainglorious fool he is would dare betray blood, but now we'll never know what Robb would have done with him because Catelyn went behind his back and undermined him as king. Broken betrothals happen all of the time both in this universe and in real history, it is not some vile sin that Robb critics make it out to be, and Walder Frey had already inflated the worth of his family's bridge as it was when he made his "offer"(which was in truth glorified extortion), his family would have been better off accepting the marriage to a Lord Paramount, as it is, after his betrayal of Robb, his family's name is in the muck, and they're facing rebellion and retaliation from every corner of the Trident, things could not have turned out worse for the Frey's for betraying the Stark's and Tully's.
In defence of Catelyn she was the one who told Robb not to send Theon to the iron island, if Robb had listened to her Winterfell wouldnt have fallen. And her action is understandable her family is seperated, her 2 sons are dead I cant blame a mother doing everything to get her last 2 daughters back
Tbh Cat didn't get Ned killed by taking Tyrion. It was only 1 small event compare to what actually got him killed : Investigating about Robert's bastards, telling what he knew to Cersei's face 🤦🏽♀️ quitting from his right hand role (because after that he was just a lord and it was easier for Jaime to attack him). With or without Cat, Ned played the game so bad at king landing . That's what got him killed. Joeffrey, himself and Cersei are for me the only ones really responsable of his death
Catelyn released Jamie as a way to trade him for her daughters, you can't fault her for being a mother and wanting to get her daughters back who could potentially be in danger. Besides, you have to remember that the Karstarks were going to kill Jamie that night, it was either let Jamie get killed or have Brienne take him to Kings Landing and trade him for her daughters. Having Jamie killed would not have helped anyone and would have definitely made things worse for Sansa and supposedly Arya who she thinks is still there.
Something important thats not emphasized in the show is catelyns personal feeling of powerlessness as a woman during this war, Robb's seeming indifference to getting the girls back (he does want them back but its not the priority) The peace terms in 2x1 were made by **Tyrion** (who she trusts to pay his debts) and offerred the girls back + Ned's remains as long as the North returns to the iron throne and Jaime is returned. The war couldve ended a while ago but the north wants revenge, not peace. This obviously frustrates catelyn and causes her to trust that tyrion would returm the girls if she sends jaime in a sort of under the table deal, especially after her two sons are killed as an result of the north being at war
I think Robb is blinded by the honor in which he was raised. He has no idea of how terrible it would be for Sansa and Arya to be stranded in Kings Landing, because he would never do terrible things to little girls. Cat understands the terrible ways the girls could be treated, and has a more realistic understanding of it and is therefore more desperate to get them back. I think Robb genuinely can’t fathom how dangerous could become for them being unsupervised in Cersei’s court. (Even though Robb knows they pushed Bran out a window).
@@lka9900 Both Robb and Cat are each naive in their own ways. I agree that Robb probably believed Sansa and Arya would be treated well as hostages, in the same why his father treated Theon. Robb has decided that, though he loves them, the girls aren't important enough to give up Jaime. Which, as a woman, I am loathe to say is true. Jaime is Tywin's heir, favorite child, and battle commander. You maybe could have exchanged him for Ned. But not two little girls. All that said, Tywin, Cersei, and Joffrey are all wild cards. None of them are honorable or predictable enough that I would have trusted any trade agreement for Jaime. The Stark's only hope was that Tywin and Cersei would tread more carefully as long as Jaime's life is in the balance...
These guys aren’t alone on this, but nobody brings up how the Karstarks we’re going to kill Jamie that night if Catelyn didn’t free him. People also ignore that Jamie only had the opportunity to escape because Robb doesn’t kill prisoners and put a Lannister cousin in the same cell as Jamie.
if you read the books you would know this isnt an issue. Rob had momentum and had the faith of his men more importantly he had the superior bargaining chip and she threw it away. The lannisters ultimately lost both Arya and Sansa the net gain from this was ZERO. The losses was paid for by rob. Catelyn is a whole clown and a horrible person
@@Knives7777 You are missing the point though because it would have been much worse if the Karstarks had killed Jaime. Basically Cat's hand has been forced by the Karstarks on this. It was a better chance than any other choice at the time regardless of outcome or net gain.
@@Knives7777 people referencing the books are so annoying lmao they are so clearly different from the show, therefore irrelevant to the actions of characters in the show.
@@Knives7777 Cat is not an horrible person, she did what she thought best for her daughters. While Robb is a king, she is a mother and thinks about her children first and foremost. Probably one of the best character on both the show and the book.
"Do they know cpr?" The greyjoys do. In the books they drown themselves and if they're successfully revived, they becime true greyjoys.(?) Thats the meaning of "what is dead may never die"
Not all siblings age the same. Stress and worry have a big effect on how you age, so maybe that's why Stannis looks older, or maybe it's the gray in his hair.😊
The shadow baby also aged him. It's why he cannot create another. Mel essentially tells him later that he doesn't have enough, for lack of a better term, life essense/power/mojo.
People will hate Cat for her decision/actions in this episode but wont hate Robb for his decision/actions in this episode. Crazy. *comments below contain spoilers*
yeah the guy was saying 'i can see robb being a tragic character being defeated after doing everything right' when he just reneged on his betrothal vows...
Fun fact: The actor who plays Bronn has already dated the actress who plays Cersei, they ended their relationship so badly that they couldn't stand each other is in the same scene, so that's why they almost never had a scene together
@StudioGek So just a wanted to remind you that Karstarks were going to kill Jamie the night Catelyn freed him. So she had a good reason to do it. She is under the impression that the Lannister’s have Arya and Sansa so allowing the Karstark’s to get their revenge which is a dumb move in the first place during a war would not only guarantee Sansa and “Arya’s”beheading but also would have thrown a big play in the war in the garbage heap and set it on fire. I totally understand it is very very frustrating to see Catelyn do this. But in the books she is a lot better character trust me!! Plus her motives make a lot more sense getting all of the context and her thought process. I don’t want to brush it off as oh it’s no big deal give her a break…but at the same time she did have a reason. Also I don’t want to spoil anything but in the books there is a huge character development for Catelyn that doesn’t take place in the show. It is sooo bada$$ but for now I’ll just leave at that as to not spoil anything. Whenever you get to that point in the show I’ll comment again and fill you boys in
The dragons became small and mutated is because the maesters (who work for the Hightowers) had them poisoned. The mad king also was told by Pycelle (a maester) to open the gate to Tywin fully knowing Tywin was going to kill the remaining Targs...
I forgot how many fire lines this show has 🔥 bars everywhere. (Also Cats actions make complete sense. It's weird Robb was not aware of the danger last night)
I think he was supposed to be on his return from the Crag? And that's the reunion we see between Rob & Cat? I'm not actually sure, but I think that may be what the timeline implies? If that helps! 😊
Cat freeing Jaime has more context in the books, and more gravitas. Throughout Book 2, Cat is in Riverrun (the seat of House Tully), dealing with death after death. Her father Hoster is dying, mumbling about something strange (and horrifying) he did to Cat's sister, Lysa when they were young. Then Ned's remains arrive from the South. Then, in the last chapter she gets news from Winterfell that Theon has burnt Bran and Rickon and basically left her only one son, Robb. Cat's mind is swirling with grief and guilt and everything seems black. Then, she takes Brienne and steps into Jaime's prison cell. It's described like her descending into the darkest recesses of her own mind. Jaime is like the final boss for Cat in Book 2. He forces her to face that her religion might be a lie, that her husband was unfaithful, and that no matter what revenge she takes, she will not get the dead back, nor will her guilt go away. In the last sentence, she asks Brienne for her sword. We don't find out what she does with Jaime until Book 3, but I love that last chapter. It's full of sadness and darkness.
@@hazeldladla5951Joffrey spoils the fate of some of the main characters and says it very explicitly. It would be kind of funny if it wasn’t frustrating
Also i know book and show canon are different, but i find it interesting to compare the 2 and sometimes the book helps to understand the show characters a little better, so here is the passage when robb confronts Cat about jaime's escape: Catelyn faced him calmly. “Lord Rickard, the Kingslayer’s dying would not have bought life for your children. His living may buy life for mine.” The lord was unappeased. “Jaime Lannister has played you for a fool. You’ve bought a bag of empty words, no more. My Torrhen and my Eddard deserved better of you.” “Leave off, Karstark,” rumbled the Greatjon, crossing his huge arms against his chest. “It was a mother’s folly. Women are made that way.” “A mother’s folly?” Lord Karstark rounded on Lord Umber. “I name it treason.” “Enough.” For just an instant Robb sounded more like Brandon than his father. “No man calls my lady of Winterfell a traitor in my hearing, Lord Rickard.” When he turned to Catelyn, his voice softened. “If I could wish the Kingslayer back in chains I would. You freed him without my knowledge or consent . . . but what you did, I know you did for love. For Arya and Sansa, and out of grief for Bran and Rickon. Love’s not always wise, I’ve learned. It can lead us to great folly, but we follow our hearts . . . wherever they take us. Don’t we, Mother?” Is that what I did? “If my heart led me into folly, I would gladly make whatever amends I can to Lord Karstark and yourself.” Lord Rickard’s face was implacable. “Will your amends warm Torrhen and Eddard in the cold graves where the Kingslayer laid them?” He shouldered between the Greatjon and Maege Mormont and left the hall. Robb made no move to detain him. “Forgive him, Mother.” “If you will forgive me.” “I have. I know what it is to love so greatly you can think of nothing else.” Catelyn bowed her head. “Thank you.” I have not lost this child, at least.
“If this was an escape,” she said softly, “and not an exchange of hostages, why should the Lannisters give my daughters to Brienne?” “It will never come to that. The Kingslayer will be returned to us, I have made certain of it.” “All you have made certain is that I shall never see my daughters again. Brienne might have gotten him to King’s Landing safely . . . so long as no one was hunting for them. But now . . .” She's just one of GRRM's best character, a mother filled with the fear of losing all her children. She also knows that Robb was not going to exchange Jaime for Sansa and Arya (he was keeping him for Ned at first I believe, not quite sure about the timeline here). While Robb wants to save and free his sisters without a doubt, women and girls are not worth the same as the Kingslayer and first son of Tywin, this knowledge pushes Cat to take matters in her own hands i think. Edit: i found the passage about an exchange for the girls : “I’m almost a man grown, and a king -your king, ser. And I don’t fear Jaime Lannister. I defeated him once, I’ll defeat him again if I must, only . . .” He pushed a fall of hair out of his eyes and gave a shake of the head. “I might have been able to trade the Kingslayer for Father, but . . .” “. . . but not for the girls?” Her voice was icy quiet. “Girls are not important enough, are they?" Robb made no answer, but there was hurt in his eyes. Blue eyes, Tully eyes, eyes she had given him. She had wounded him, but he was too much his father’s son to admit it. That was unworthy of me, she told herself. Gods be good, what is to become of me? He is doing his best, trying so hard, I know it, I see it, and yet . . . I have lost my Ned, the rock my life was built on, I could not bear to lose the girls as well . . .
i hate how long y’all make us wait for these drops, i also respect y’all making us wait to play on our impatience and tempt us to pay for patreon 😂 respect ✊🏽 but still salty haha
28:14 and what a king he was... so many vows, they make you swear and swear, obey your king, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak, but what if the king kills the innocents, what if your father despises the king, it is too much... I really don't undestand how Jaime, who only defended his family from the enemies of his family, is a rat only in the world in which Starks are "good guys", and Lannisters are "bad" guys, but is it this world tho? idk
I think most people hopped on GoT when Seasons 3 and 4 were coming out thats probably why they think back on them the most fondly. I caught up just before the Season 2 premier so this season was my favorite for a while but fuck man, I just group seasons 1-4 together as the best TV I've ever seen
29:40 idk the only way Lord Karstark would have felt avenged is if he killed Jaime, which is exactly what Catelyn is afraid of, she's sure Jaime won't last much longer in the camp. Karstark's son is already dead, but her daughters are still alive and have a chance of coming home. The North went to war to bring Ned and the girls home, but over time they've lost sight of that goal, even Robb has. Understandable, but Catelyn is a mother who thinks literally all of her children besides Robb are at risk of being killed by their captors right now, so she makes a very human decision out of desperation
Warnings coming if you continue watching GOT into season 3, episode 4, there will be a huge spoiler to House of Dragons told by Joffrey while walking with Margery of House Tyrell. If you wish not to know what happens in HOUSE OF DRAGONS I suggest you not watch without someone making sure you miss the spoiler it happens he tells her the history of the Tars including what happens to a main character during the war while taking a walk in the sep of Baylor so once he offers to take Margery for a a walk skip ahead you really don't want to hear anything he has to tell Margery from House of Dragons !
This is for McKay. I just have to ask because I know that can you are drinking out of anywhere. Are you drinking the Monster Mango? If so I knew you were my favorite for a reason. I absolutely love that drink for a pick me up. One love guys.
We would love to see you guys react to history and lore. It may seem long and boring but you guys will like it and it will provide so much context and interesting information. At least try doing the season one history and lore!
Ah so Catelyn releasing Jamie to get the girls back is dumb but Robb betraying the Freys to marry Talisa is a dub. Perhaps Cersei was right, half the time, we do think with the little worm between our legs.
Jamie was going to be killed by the karstarks. He's worth more by getting a chance to get the girls than being dead. He's also being escorted by Brianne to make sure tyrion keeps his end of the bargain, not just let free.
Watching people watch this show is fascinating because why does everyone just suddenly forget that Jamie only had the opportunity to escape because of Robb and the Karstarks were going to kill Jamie
I'm so excited thinking of the episodes yet to come, the show left us all with a bitter taste in our mouths, yet there are so many amazing episodes well past season 4. I love watching your reactions so much, seem like a bunch of good dudes..
@@Sigma4k_ I was disappointed but I didn't feel it was bad as the rabid hate it got, as there's rarely any show that has a satisfying ending. I remember how much criticism The Sopranos got for its ending, yet it's still one of the greatest TV series of all time. For me Game of Thrones is all about the journey, not the destination.
The show and the books even more so do such a great job showing the results of your actions and the consequences that come with it. Just wait! Every rash decision comes with its consequences.
Carter we’re your dawgs, please throw us a bone by releasing the last two episodes over the next two days 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻us game of thrones fans are thirsting more than One Punch fans. Though One Punch is 👍
Hi guys! Im not sure if someone else has said this already but, since I know you are farther ahead on the show, I thought you might want to be warned. On episode 3x4 there are major HotD spoilers about the dead of one of the main characters, as GoT is obviously set in the future. You might wanna skip that part if you don't wanna have it ruined for you.
Jackson 😂😂 Volantis is on the other continent, you were right. I found it very funny that you weren’t sure and were trying to avoid giving wrong info. Us hardcore GOT fans can come off a little brutal sometimes but really we’re all good vibes ❤️
Remember Jamie would die that night anyway because the Karstarks were demanding vengeance and nobody would be willing to die to defend a Lannister. If Jaime got killed then that would mean Sansa would be killed in response and Catelyn thinks they have Arya as well. So instead of losing everything, Catelyn chose to at least use Jaime for a chance to get her daughters back (or at the very least keep them alive). A very reasonable thing to do in her position.
Anyone else find it weird that the wildlings know Ned Stark is dead? It happened not that long ago and there’s barely any communication between those north of the wall and those south of it. Of all the information to make it to them why that news?
Im a Bran Stan so for all Bran haters/bashers out there eff u hahhaha even if Carter is always Sus about Bran walking and his dream sequence. Bran out of all his brothers and sisters were the first to see the wickedness and cruelty of game of thrones and be the first to suffered by being crippled. Bran FTW.😂😂😂
The way time happens in Game of Thrones is essentially how it happens in real time. The show started in 2011 and ended in 2019 with a few breaks. They had like 8 seasons. So the show sort of lasted 8 years with the same actors growing naturally along the way so the story probably lasted 8 years as well. There is no time jump. But there are "travel jumps" esp. in Season 6 and onward.
I’m so excited to see you guys react to not only the next two episodes but season 3. The last two episodes shift this show into a whole other gear of epicness and somehow season 3 continues that by going through multiple shifts up into the next level of epicness
I am here to settle the Jackson and McKay dragon talk. House of the Dragon will answer a lot of your questions, but long story short: Jackson, men HAVE killed dragons but it is/was no easy feat at all and is obviously a suicide sentence for anyone trying. It didn’t happen like you are picturing where there is one Mountain sized guy with a giant sword, it’s actually more realistic what actually happened. And yeah all the big ones were killed off one way or another and the ones they had left never got a chance to grow big for different reasons.
Brig I understood your reservations about the shadow baby but you’re getting stubborn about it. Comments have already explained there are serious limits to it, and the show already confirmed Melisandre would not help Stannis take King’s Landing because Davos convinced him not to bring her.
Season 4 is definitely peak GoT, but pretty sure the reason why people want other guys to watch this series is in season 3. June is going to be crazy! Can't wait!
I mean if Robb marries Telisa then he's gonna be an oathbreaker cause a promise was made that he would marry Walder Frey's daughter to cross the bridge.
It's so funny when people say that they hate cat because she didn't love jon and punished him for his father crime( when she only showed indifference towards him) when ned literally take little theon as a hostage for his father crime and would have killed him ,if he's father have broken the treaty.
Ned ain’t killing him if a rebellion broke out😂There’s no point to it’s just saying hey don’t do that and if he was stupid enough to he wouldn’t kill a kid
Cat can be big dumb but Rob is big dumber 😂 And that's all I can say about that until my favorite episode. Edit: Every time "my bastard" is brought up, it's a grande time for us viewers lol
I totally agree with the point that Theon is one of the best written characters. Yes he is vile and betrayed the starks. His Character has a very raw emotional substance going on. While we dont and will not forgive him, you can understand his motive. Again he made the wrong choice but to be put in situation where his hostage family treated him better than his actual family and father, must put him in an incredible dark place. GRRM does a great job with his "grey" characters. I think many of us would be just as conflicted as theon, maybe not take the same actions but feel just as lonely and desparate for familial love.
They are not married at time this was filmed. They dated for long time, and moved in together. They got married in 2018, and now have a son and a daughter.😊
I am still convinced that Jaqen has deathnote.
Love this dude hahaha
A man needs a name…and a face
@@SaidBKD95 And a correct spelling
Just 5 dudes casually watching their on-screen bro Robb get some.
Such a wholesome relationship man, it gets juicy near the end of the series, probably the best relationship for the whole series.
they were def blushing when the dress dropped and you see how much 🎂 she packin 😂🙌🏽 the lord is my shepherd, he knows what i want!
they seemed way uncomfortable, calling her SUS
@@wh1skeybud Her body is chef's kiss ❤
@@baron7755they always get uncomfortable with scenes like that and i understand 😂 we don’t want any age restrictions on the videos
u wrong for this
24:30 "this music gets me bro" THANK YOU MCKAY!!!!!!!!! The Stark theme will always always give me chills. The strength in the desparation of it. Ramin Djawadi KILLED
The sad score you love is the Stark’s theme. Each house has one. Ramin Djawadi is a genius!
I wouldn't blame cat, even their own people warned her that jamie won't last the night (someone's gonna kill him) out of anger after his attempt to escape, and if he died, her only chance to gain her girls back is nada. Hence why she sent him to king's landing with brienne for an exchange. It was rob the one who was jeopardising everything, his people, his family, by choosing talisa and breaking his promise with the freys bc of a romantic interest that he could not afford to have at that time. In the end, he is still a child.
Take him to winterfell then, or to the dreadfort if he’s in danger there at camp
The folly is the Frey's, Bolton's, and the Lannister's for breaking a sacrosanct law of guest right, this is made even more clear in the books, if anything the Red Wedding made things more chaotic and untenable for the conspirators involved. Catelyn releasing Jaime objectively weakened their position considerably, the 'security' of Jaime's well-being wasn't in Cat's mind when she released him, and something terrible could have just as easily happened to both Brienne and Jaime while out on the road, and in fact almost did several times, Robb could have secured Jaime at Riverrun if it became too much of a danger to allow him in camp, his own blood wouldn't have sold him out to Tywin Lannister, not even Edmure, the vainglorious fool he is would dare betray blood, but now we'll never know what Robb would have done with him because Catelyn went behind his back and undermined him as king.
Broken betrothals happen all of the time both in this universe and in real history, it is not some vile sin that Robb critics make it out to be, and Walder Frey had already inflated the worth of his family's bridge as it was when he made his "offer"(which was in truth glorified extortion), his family would have been better off accepting the marriage to a Lord Paramount, as it is, after his betrayal of Robb, his family's name is in the muck, and they're facing rebellion and retaliation from every corner of the Trident, things could not have turned out worse for the Frey's for betraying the Stark's and Tully's.
I love how some scenes and dialogues in this episode is so important and comes back around in future episodes. Such an important episode
In defence of Catelyn she was the one who told Robb not to send Theon to the iron island, if Robb had listened to her Winterfell wouldnt have fallen. And her action is understandable her family is seperated, her 2 sons are dead I cant blame a mother doing everything to get her last 2 daughters back
Tbh Cat didn't get Ned killed by taking Tyrion. It was only 1 small event compare to what actually got him killed : Investigating about Robert's bastards, telling what he knew to Cersei's face 🤦🏽♀️ quitting from his right hand role (because after that he was just a lord and it was easier for Jaime to attack him). With or without Cat, Ned played the game so bad at king landing . That's what got him killed. Joeffrey, himself and Cersei are for me the only ones really responsable of his death
Catelyn released Jamie as a way to trade him for her daughters, you can't fault her for being a mother and wanting to get her daughters back who could potentially be in danger. Besides, you have to remember that the Karstarks were going to kill Jamie that night, it was either let Jamie get killed or have Brienne take him to Kings Landing and trade him for her daughters. Having Jamie killed would not have helped anyone and would have definitely made things worse for Sansa and supposedly Arya who she thinks is still there.
Something important thats not emphasized in the show is catelyns personal feeling of powerlessness as a woman during this war, Robb's seeming indifference to getting the girls back (he does want them back but its not the priority)
The peace terms in 2x1 were made by **Tyrion** (who she trusts to pay his debts) and offerred the girls back + Ned's remains as long as the North returns to the iron throne and Jaime is returned. The war couldve ended a while ago but the north wants revenge, not peace. This obviously frustrates catelyn and causes her to trust that tyrion would returm the girls if she sends jaime in a sort of under the table deal, especially after her two sons are killed as an result of the north being at war
I think Robb is blinded by the honor in which he was raised. He has no idea of how terrible it would be for Sansa and Arya to be stranded in Kings Landing, because he would never do terrible things to little girls. Cat understands the terrible ways the girls could be treated, and has a more realistic understanding of it and is therefore more desperate to get them back. I think Robb genuinely can’t fathom how dangerous could become for them being unsupervised in Cersei’s court. (Even though Robb knows they pushed Bran out a window).
@@lka9900 Both Robb and Cat are each naive in their own ways.
I agree that Robb probably believed Sansa and Arya would be treated well as hostages, in the same why his father treated Theon.
Robb has decided that, though he loves them, the girls aren't important enough to give up Jaime.
Which, as a woman, I am loathe to say is true.
Jaime is Tywin's heir, favorite child, and battle commander. You maybe could have exchanged him for Ned.
But not two little girls.
All that said, Tywin, Cersei, and Joffrey are all wild cards. None of them are honorable or predictable enough that I would have trusted any trade agreement for Jaime.
The Stark's only hope was that Tywin and Cersei would tread more carefully as long as Jaime's life is in the balance...
These guys aren’t alone on this, but nobody brings up how the Karstarks we’re going to kill Jamie that night if Catelyn didn’t free him. People also ignore that Jamie only had the opportunity to escape because Robb doesn’t kill prisoners and put a Lannister cousin in the same cell as Jamie.
Came here to say this. Everyone gets after her for it but truthfully it was probably their best bet.
if you read the books you would know this isnt an issue.
Rob had momentum and had the faith of his men more importantly he had the superior bargaining chip and she threw it away. The lannisters ultimately lost both Arya and Sansa the net gain from this was ZERO. The losses was paid for by rob. Catelyn is a whole clown and a horrible person
@@Knives7777 You are missing the point though because it would have been much worse if the Karstarks had killed Jaime. Basically Cat's hand has been forced by the Karstarks on this. It was a better chance than any other choice at the time regardless of outcome or net gain.
@@Knives7777 people referencing the books are so annoying lmao they are so clearly different from the show, therefore irrelevant to the actions of characters in the show.
@@Knives7777 Cat is not an horrible person, she did what she thought best for her daughters. While Robb is a king, she is a mother and thinks about her children first and foremost. Probably one of the best character on both the show and the book.
"Do they know cpr?" The greyjoys do. In the books they drown themselves and if they're successfully revived, they becime true greyjoys.(?) Thats the meaning of "what is dead may never die"
It's not just the Greyjoys, it's all of the Ironborn.
Not all siblings age the same. Stress and worry have a big effect on how you age, so maybe that's why Stannis looks older, or maybe it's the gray in his hair.😊
and also fat makes the skin look younger
The shadow baby also aged him.
It's why he cannot create another. Mel essentially tells him later that he doesn't have enough, for lack of a better term, life essense/power/mojo.
“Secret secret secret secret tunnnnnnelllll yeah!” 😂😂😂
People will hate Cat for her decision/actions in this episode but wont hate Robb for his decision/actions in this episode. Crazy.
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yeah the guy was saying 'i can see robb being a tragic character being defeated after doing everything right' when he just reneged on his betrothal vows...
The Karen in the North
@@orcocanreneged.😊
@@johnnielurker And her son, The Oath-Breaker King
@@tonismith3707 yes misspelled:-)
Fun fact: The actor who plays Bronn has already dated the actress who plays Cersei, they ended their relationship so badly that they couldn't stand each other is in the same scene, so that's why they almost never had a scene together
Which one was the bad person in the relationship? Or were they both bad?
@@quinnmach535 I don't know, they never said anything about
@@quinnmach535 seems like both because both of them were very eager to NOT be on set together as much as possible. like they mutually agreed to that
@@quinnmach535 Immature question. Relationships are complex it's never clear cut one person being shitty.
@StudioGek So just a wanted to remind you that Karstarks were going to kill Jamie the night Catelyn freed him. So she had a good reason to do it. She is under the impression that the Lannister’s have Arya and Sansa so allowing the Karstark’s to get their revenge which is a dumb move in the first place during a war would not only guarantee Sansa and “Arya’s”beheading but also would have thrown a big play in the war in the garbage heap and set it on fire.
I totally understand it is very very frustrating to see Catelyn do this. But in the books she is a lot better character trust me!! Plus her motives make a lot more sense getting all of the context and her thought process. I don’t want to brush it off as oh it’s no big deal give her a break…but at the same time she did have a reason.
Also I don’t want to spoil anything but in the books there is a huge character development for Catelyn that doesn’t take place in the show. It is sooo bada$$ but for now I’ll just leave at that as to not spoil anything. Whenever you get to that point in the show I’ll comment again and fill you boys in
FYI : Jamie is called king slayer cause he killed King Aerys 2 which is Daenarys' father.
Something they would know if they FINALLY watched lore and histories
If they focused on the dialog they will understand that @gaelthor9758
@@gaelthor9758 no need its explained in season 1. i dont understand how they are at end of season 2 and dont know this wtf
@@ducksauce9187 it’s because during S1 they were talking over much of the dialogue. They’re doing it less now.
@@gaelthor9758I never did that and got it lol
The dragons became small and mutated is because the maesters (who work for the Hightowers) had them poisoned. The mad king also was told by Pycelle (a maester) to open the gate to Tywin fully knowing Tywin was going to kill the remaining Targs...
I forgot how many fire lines this show has 🔥 bars everywhere.
(Also Cats actions make complete sense. It's weird Robb was not aware of the danger last night)
I think he was supposed to be on his return from the Crag? And that's the reunion we see between Rob & Cat? I'm not actually sure, but I think that may be what the timeline implies? If that helps! 😊
Cat freeing Jaime has more context in the books, and more gravitas. Throughout Book 2, Cat is in Riverrun (the seat of House Tully), dealing with death after death. Her father Hoster is dying, mumbling about something strange (and horrifying) he did to Cat's sister, Lysa when they were young. Then Ned's remains arrive from the South. Then, in the last chapter she gets news from Winterfell that Theon has burnt Bran and Rickon and basically left her only one son, Robb. Cat's mind is swirling with grief and guilt and everything seems black. Then, she takes Brienne and steps into Jaime's prison cell. It's described like her descending into the darkest recesses of her own mind.
Jaime is like the final boss for Cat in Book 2. He forces her to face that her religion might be a lie, that her husband was unfaithful, and that no matter what revenge she takes, she will not get the dead back, nor will her guilt go away. In the last sentence, she asks Brienne for her sword. We don't find out what she does with Jaime until Book 3, but I love that last chapter. It's full of sadness and darkness.
11:50 a chicken must move.
4:44 LMAO Briggs calling out on Carter 😂 oh I can't wait!
I cannot wait for the reaction to the next episode! Time for the Blackwater
There is a spoiler for HOTD. The scene is in s3 e4, and the time stamp is from 15:49 to 16:06, just in case you do not want to be spoiled.😊
They reacted to House of the Dragon first
@@hazeldladla5951yeah but theres a spoiler for the later seasons
@@hazeldladla5951Joffrey spoils the fate of some of the main characters and says it very explicitly. It would be kind of funny if it wasn’t frustrating
I laught everyrime someone point that out cause im 100% certain no one would notice if you didnt say anything .
“This song is sad”…….. my eyes start bawling every time I hear the Stark theme 🥹
#DONTBULLYBRIG
🤣🤣💀
I’m here for the smoke (not that stupid smoke bomb demon tho)
GOT has a thing with episode 9. Remember season 1 episode 9 was Ned.
Also i know book and show canon are different, but i find it interesting to compare the 2 and sometimes the book helps to understand the show characters a little better, so here is the passage when robb confronts Cat about jaime's escape:
Catelyn faced him calmly. “Lord Rickard, the Kingslayer’s dying would not have bought life for your children. His living may buy life for mine.”
The lord was unappeased. “Jaime Lannister has played you for a fool. You’ve bought a bag of empty words, no more. My Torrhen and my Eddard deserved better of you.”
“Leave off, Karstark,” rumbled the Greatjon, crossing his huge arms against his chest. “It was a mother’s folly. Women are made that way.”
“A mother’s folly?” Lord Karstark rounded on Lord Umber. “I name it treason.”
“Enough.” For just an instant Robb sounded more like Brandon than his father. “No man calls my lady of Winterfell a traitor in my hearing, Lord Rickard.” When he turned to Catelyn, his voice softened. “If I could wish the Kingslayer back in chains I would. You freed him without my knowledge or consent . . . but what you did, I know you did for love. For Arya and Sansa, and
out of grief for Bran and Rickon. Love’s not always wise, I’ve learned. It can lead us to great folly, but we follow our hearts . . . wherever they take us. Don’t we, Mother?”
Is that what I did? “If my heart led me into folly, I would gladly make whatever amends I can to Lord Karstark and yourself.”
Lord Rickard’s face was implacable. “Will your amends warm Torrhen and Eddard in the cold graves where the Kingslayer laid them?” He shouldered between the Greatjon and Maege Mormont and left the hall.
Robb made no move to detain him. “Forgive him, Mother.”
“If you will forgive me.”
“I have. I know what it is to love so greatly you can think of nothing else.”
Catelyn bowed her head. “Thank you.” I have not lost this child, at least.
“If this was an escape,” she said softly, “and not an exchange of hostages, why should the Lannisters give my daughters to Brienne?”
“It will never come to that. The Kingslayer will be returned to us, I have made certain of it.”
“All you have made certain is that I shall never see my daughters again. Brienne might have gotten him to King’s Landing safely . . . so long as no one was hunting for them. But now . . .”
She's just one of GRRM's best character, a mother filled with the fear of losing all her children. She also knows that Robb was not going to exchange Jaime for Sansa and Arya (he was keeping him for Ned at first I believe, not quite sure about the timeline here). While Robb wants to save and free his sisters without a doubt, women and girls are not worth the same as the Kingslayer and first son of Tywin, this knowledge pushes Cat to take matters in her own hands i think.
Edit: i found the passage about an exchange for the girls : “I’m almost a man grown, and a king -your king, ser. And I don’t fear Jaime Lannister. I defeated him once, I’ll defeat him again if I must, only . . .” He pushed a fall of hair out of his eyes and gave a shake of the head. “I might have been able to trade the Kingslayer for Father, but . . .”
“. . . but not for the girls?” Her voice was icy quiet. “Girls are not important enough, are they?"
Robb made no answer, but there was hurt in his eyes. Blue eyes, Tully eyes, eyes she had given him. She had wounded him, but he was too much his father’s son to admit it.
That was unworthy of me, she told herself. Gods be good, what is to become of me? He is doing his best, trying so hard, I know it, I see it, and yet . . . I have lost my Ned, the rock my life was built on, I could not bear to lose the girls as well . . .
Yo you guys should watch your lie in April it's an anime that hit me like a truck
34:44 2 years 4 months and 6 days 😏😂
i hate how long y’all make us wait for these drops, i also respect y’all making us wait to play on our impatience and tempt us to pay for patreon 😂 respect ✊🏽 but still salty haha
28:14 and what a king he was...
so many vows, they make you swear and swear, obey your king, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak, but what if the king kills the innocents, what if your father despises the king, it is too much...
I really don't undestand how Jaime, who only defended his family from the enemies of his family, is a rat
only in the world in which Starks are "good guys", and Lannisters are "bad" guys, but is it this world tho? idk
Uhh I have an idea. Maybe, just maybe, it's because he pushed a 10 yr old out the window thatswhy he's bad
I think most people hopped on GoT when Seasons 3 and 4 were coming out thats probably why they think back on them the most fondly. I caught up just before the Season 2 premier so this season was my favorite for a while but fuck man, I just group seasons 1-4 together as the best TV I've ever seen
who edits these videos 😂😂bro is hilarious
EDIT: nevermind, I found them 🤣🤣Thank you chiyash, your sense of humour is beautiful
29:40 idk the only way Lord Karstark would have felt avenged is if he killed Jaime, which is exactly what Catelyn is afraid of, she's sure Jaime won't last much longer in the camp. Karstark's son is already dead, but her daughters are still alive and have a chance of coming home. The North went to war to bring Ned and the girls home, but over time they've lost sight of that goal, even Robb has. Understandable, but Catelyn is a mother who thinks literally all of her children besides Robb are at risk of being killed by their captors right now, so she makes a very human decision out of desperation
Re: Melisandre (the red witch”
Someone in this group of dudes said “I can’t imagine she just fades away…”
😅
Warnings coming if you continue watching GOT into season 3, episode 4, there will be a huge spoiler to House of Dragons told by Joffrey while walking with Margery of House Tyrell. If you wish not to know what happens in HOUSE OF DRAGONS I suggest you not watch without someone making sure you miss the spoiler it happens he tells her the history of the Tars including what happens to a main character during the war while taking a walk in the sep of Baylor so once he offers to take Margery for a a walk skip ahead you really don't want to hear anything he has to tell Margery from House of Dragons !
HOUSE OF DRAGONS
This is for McKay. I just have to ask because I know that can you are drinking out of anywhere. Are you drinking the Monster Mango? If so I knew you were my favorite for a reason. I absolutely love that drink for a pick me up. One love guys.
He has the most beautiful smile as well😃
Yes, it's been around a year.😊
"They call you the mother of dragons but they didn't suckle at your breast Khaleesi" me, having read the books: 😳
Can’t wait for the next episode…
We would love to see you guys react to history and lore. It may seem long and boring but you guys will like it and it will provide so much context and interesting information. At least try doing the season one history and lore!
He is called kingslayer because he killed the mad king (Daenerys Father) the previous king before Robert he was one of the mad king kings guard
Someone called Cat as “The karen in the north” and i have never laughed so hard
Ah so Catelyn releasing Jamie to get the girls back is dumb but Robb betraying the Freys to marry Talisa is a dub. Perhaps Cersei was right, half the time, we do think with the little worm between our legs.
Jamie was going to be killed by the karstarks. He's worth more by getting a chance to get the girls than being dead. He's also being escorted by Brianne to make sure tyrion keeps his end of the bargain, not just let free.
S1-4 are some of the best TV in history. S6 has alot of great moments as well. In terms of best season 3 and 4 back to back are just so peakkkkk
Why aren't you guys watching HISTORIES & LORE ?? Why are the guys who already watched the show, Making them do it. ?
Watching people watch this show is fascinating because why does everyone just suddenly forget that Jamie only had the opportunity to escape because of Robb and the Karstarks were going to kill Jamie
I'm so excited thinking of the episodes yet to come, the show left us all with a bitter taste in our mouths, yet there are so many amazing episodes well past season 4. I love watching your reactions so much, seem like a bunch of good dudes..
Speak for yourself. The show did not leave us all with a bitter taste in our mouths
Years later, I think I can accept that ending. But only the idea at its core (character arc endings). The realisation of those ideas was just awful.
@@Andres64Bwell you are in the minority
@@Sigma4k_ I was disappointed but I didn't feel it was bad as the rabid hate it got, as there's rarely any show that has a satisfying ending. I remember how much criticism The Sopranos got for its ending, yet it's still one of the greatest TV series of all time. For me Game of Thrones is all about the journey, not the destination.
You waiting for what I’m waiting for 😏🐺
2 years 4 months and 6 days is actually a pretty good ballpark
32:37 🤣🤣 I loved that Effect
Hahahhaa his fixed gaze 🤣
The show and the books even more so do such a great job showing the results of your actions and the consequences that come with it. Just wait! Every rash decision comes with its consequences.
Varys subtle reaction to Bronn saying he killed all the thieves but in reality some of them were probably Varys Little bird's lol.
Carter we’re your dawgs, please throw us a bone by releasing the last two episodes over the next two days 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻us game of thrones fans are thirsting more than One Punch fans. Though One Punch is 👍
i was really sad the lakers lost... but ANT MAN is avenging old man bron
Same man same😓
To be fair, Jamie's life was in danger. If Cat hadnt released him, he wouldve likely been killed by Robb's men especially the Karstarks...
JUST REACT TO THE NEXT EPISODE ALREADYYYYY
Hi guys! Im not sure if someone else has said this already but, since I know you are farther ahead on the show, I thought you might want to be warned. On episode 3x4 there are major HotD spoilers about the dead of one of the main characters, as GoT is obviously set in the future. You might wanna skip that part if you don't wanna have it ruined for you.
The Stark theme hits so differently now😢
Jackson 😂😂 Volantis is on the other continent, you were right. I found it very funny that you weren’t sure and were trying to avoid giving wrong info. Us hardcore GOT fans can come off a little brutal sometimes but really we’re all good vibes ❤️
3:29 realist shit I ever heard!!🤣😂🔥 #DONTBULLYBRIG
Remember Jamie would die that night anyway because the Karstarks were demanding vengeance and nobody would be willing to die to defend a Lannister. If Jaime got killed then that would mean Sansa would be killed in response and Catelyn thinks they have Arya as well. So instead of losing everything, Catelyn chose to at least use Jaime for a chance to get her daughters back (or at the very least keep them alive). A very reasonable thing to do in her position.
Anyone else find it weird that the wildlings know Ned Stark is dead? It happened not that long ago and there’s barely any communication between those north of the wall and those south of it. Of all the information to make it to them why that news?
Im a Bran Stan so for all Bran haters/bashers out there eff u hahhaha even if Carter is always Sus about Bran walking and his dream sequence. Bran out of all his brothers and sisters were the first to see the wickedness and cruelty of game of thrones and be the first to suffered by being crippled. Bran FTW.😂😂😂
9:34 nice edit, very funny
The one true king of Westeros, Stannis the Mannis
"somethings gonna happen on this little trek home" LOL
Y’all need to react to the fallout series!
最近たまに見ています！ジブリの回が好きです！
次は最高の名作「もののけ姫」を見て欲しいです！✨
wait until you guys see the red wedding 🌚💀❤
I'm stoked for Episode 9. It was the moment Game of Thrones went from being brilliant to epic.
The way time happens in Game of Thrones is essentially how it happens in real time. The show started in 2011 and ended in 2019 with a few breaks. They had like 8 seasons. So the show sort of lasted 8 years with the same actors growing naturally along the way so the story probably lasted 8 years as well. There is no time jump. But there are "travel jumps" esp. in Season 6 and onward.
I’m so excited to see you guys react to not only the next two episodes but season 3. The last two episodes shift this show into a whole other gear of epicness and somehow season 3 continues that by going through multiple shifts up into the next level of epicness
I am here to settle the Jackson and McKay dragon talk. House of the Dragon will answer a lot of your questions, but long story short: Jackson, men HAVE killed dragons but it is/was no easy feat at all and is obviously a suicide sentence for anyone trying. It didn’t happen like you are picturing where there is one Mountain sized guy with a giant sword, it’s actually more realistic what actually happened. And yeah all the big ones were killed off one way or another and the ones they had left never got a chance to grow big for different reasons.
Can jack just let them work it out themselves. Idk.
Y’all taking way too long for these videos!!! Love them tho
Brig saying HOUSE OF DRAGONS 😀 is getting me
He's saying it as a joke making fun of some sports commentators lol
@@StudioGek Hilarious...
@@StudioGek from now on i will be saying it that way as an inside joke that only i understand
Brig I understood your reservations about the shadow baby but you’re getting stubborn about it. Comments have already explained there are serious limits to it, and the show already confirmed Melisandre would not help Stannis take King’s Landing because Davos convinced him not to bring her.
*it’s called sarcasm*
@@brigandrus fair enough I misunderstood your tone
Rob and his wife are couple goals. Excited for your reaction to the power couple they become!
24:39 mckay getting abused yet again #raiseawareness
Season 4 is definitely peak GoT, but pretty sure the reason why people want other guys to watch this series is in season 3. June is going to be crazy! Can't wait!
what a dub for robb 🤣
Incredible how quickly people develop GoT paranoia about all characters, especially characters they like 😂
I mean if Robb marries Telisa then he's gonna be an oathbreaker cause a promise was made that he would marry Walder Frey's daughter to cross the bridge.
It's so funny when people say that they hate cat because she didn't love jon and punished him for his father crime( when she only showed indifference towards him) when ned literally take little theon as a hostage for his father crime and would have killed him ,if he's father have broken the treaty.
Ned ain’t killing him if a rebellion broke out😂There’s no point to it’s just saying hey don’t do that and if he was stupid enough to he wouldn’t kill a kid
@@JessChillN_ I've never seen anyone flaunt their media illiteracy in such a confident manner.
You guys leave Brig alone!
#dontbullybrig
its gonna start ramping up gentlemen
Cat can be big dumb but Rob is big dumber 😂 And that's all I can say about that until my favorite episode.
Edit: Every time "my bastard" is brought up, it's a grande time for us viewers lol
the constant advertising throughout the whole video is distracting
I totally agree with the point that Theon is one of the best written characters. Yes he is vile and betrayed the starks. His Character has a very raw emotional substance going on. While we dont and will not forgive him, you can understand his motive. Again he made the wrong choice but to be put in situation where his hostage family treated him better than his actual family and father, must put him in an incredible dark place. GRRM does a great job with his "grey" characters. I think many of us would be just as conflicted as theon, maybe not take the same actions but feel just as lonely and desparate for familial love.
S2 is the best-written season in my opinion! The dialogues are just… INCREDIBLE
thank you boys you all are legends love from NZ having a stoney and ur vid perfect g
Chur bro I'm from nz too
30:00 the INSTANT scene insert 😭
Forgot CID was in this show!!🤣
Who
@@alexarias5717 the guy with Theon is the voice actor for Cid in FF16
@JessChillN_ ooohhh I just remember him from the witch
You mean Galactus!
@@Varekai0723 haha right🤣Crazy I was just talking about him😂
Please react to Bleach! It's a long series but worth watching.
“I will hurt you for this” ☠️ bro shouldn’t have said that