I don't know about you guys, but personally I find cards like this much more exciting than the massive ones that pull enough wattage to do double-duty as a space heater
Yes, and I will also say I'm glad to see the channel back to covering some of this stuff. I miss the old turn secondhand PCs into batocera emulation machines. I got one of the optiplex mini pcs because of this channel, but lately the coverage has been so much on pretty pricey handheld and stuff. I do like to watch those too but had missed this stuff.
Probably the most attractive thing about this card is that it uses all 16 lanes - so you won't have to worry about bottlenecking an older machine running PCIe 3 or 2.
@@greatwavefan397 What? Those two have the exact same bandwidth. But if a card can physically support 16 lanes, the chance of bottleneck on say pcie 2 pc is not much. If a card is physically 8x, in a pcie 2 pc, the card would receive as much bandwidth as an ssd.
@@greatwavefan397 PCIe speeds are negotiable but lanes are lanes. You'd be running 8 lanes at 3.0 speeds. This is part of the reason everyone thinks the RX6400 is so crappy.
Yeah I think these will be bottlenecked almost on a optiplex. You can get the 1650 super for like $100 right not and that’s about perfect hell I bought a 2060 evga black single for $120 for last optiplex build I did and that’s about perfect as hell. Although I did replace the psu with a 450 watt evga one for that one with the 1650 super you can use a molex to 6 pin and it will be fine. These cards would be great for the newer sff oem machines something with a 6th gen Intel are newer .
Yup, many moons ago I used to use a SFF dell optiplex core2duo with an HD 6670 low-profile card to run a dedicated healer on an mmo. (EQ2, not WoW) Little Optiplex and other SFF PCs are still dirt cheap for pretty decent hardware. Like an Optiplex 7050 with a i7 6700/7700 and 16GB of ram is like.. $150.
I think the issue with using this in an Optiplex build is that you might be able to get this card used at a reasonable price and you might be able to get an Optiplex with a CPU that won't bottleneck it, _but_ I think you still might end up approaching a price point where it makes sense to consider a new-except-for-the-GPU build that has an upgrade path instead.
If Nvidia would re-release this card as a consumer model and replace the mini HDMI outputs w/ a single HDMI & DP, and sell them for an MSRP of $249.99 USD, I think these would sell like hotcakes.
The problem is that they'd be selling at lower margins and still competing with a massive flood of cheap used GPUs. It might be a while before they decide it makes financial sense to release lower-end GPUs in modern product stacks.
@@Prodbytocile low profile refers strictly to the size of it. you can make a 4000 series gpu almost the size of this by watercooling it. and the tdp on that thing is not low
About a year ago, I was looking at this card to update an old Alienware X51 that I was still gaming on from 2013. Ultimately I built an all-new rig to enjoy 4K gaming, but if I was going to stick to 1080p, I probably would have just upgraded the old rig and kept limping along. These cards are really impressive for small form factor rigs.
@@TheRealAlpha2 yeah, between that and the CPU on the old machine-an i7 3770-I decided to just build the new rig instead. The old machine has a GTX 1060 in it, which is actually not bad for 1080p gaming, so I’ll eventually repurpose it as a gift to family.
Actually got one of these this past monday. I love how efficient it is at 70W providing GREAT performance. I use it on my SFF server on where I virtualize it with Proxmox and access it using Citrix Virtual Desktop :) I can even game at 1080p EPIC details over a remote protocol. I love this beast!
Just fun information, in Canada, it’s $650 new. On eBay, there’s one for about $470. The one I have in our Amazon cart is a GeForce RTX 3050 8GB for $445.
I bought an A2000 2nd hand for a small form factor pc and it's great, it's so power efficient and competent at 1080p, really makes me wish Nvidia would stop making absolutely ridiculous cards like the 4090 for two minutes to make a small form factor GPU that's aimed at the gaming market, the 1650, launched all the way back in 2019, was the last nvidia-branded gaming-GPU in that SFX category but the A2000 demolishes it, it's a total joke that there's no version with a dual fan cooler that's aimed at gamers. (and any AMD cards of this size don't even match the 1650) It misses some features out like game-streaming capability because its a work station card but there's no reason for it. It can even do RTX! granted you'll have to lower the resolution on minecraft to get any performance with RTX on but still, just shows what kinda power nvidia can actually pack into a GPU without it costing the earth and sky-rocketing my monthly electric bill.
This things MSRP was 450 which was horrible??? Now I know that the vast majority never got a 3000 GPU at MSRP but a 3050 MSRP was 249. Not sure why you even said without it costing the earth when this thing was awfully priced. I will agree that this card is power efficient af and its neat to see what it can do at that limited power but it was not a good value card at all. Only now its somewhat reasonable
Remember this was targeted for AI customers vs consumers. But I will say there is a market for these types of chips. Or I want to see board partners start completing in this space but using moblie GPUs. One can dream. I am waiting for the NVIDIA RTX 4000 SFF card to come down in price or a 10GB model. Come on Nvidia :)
@@no-barknoonan1335 the new 6GB 3050 isn't much faster than the integrated GPU on the 8700G. And you can actually assign more RAM to the 8700G of you have enough installed.
YOURE SO CLOSE TO 1 million subs man! This is crazy! I remember watching your videos when you were still in the 80.000s! Absolutely amazing milestone, ETA, your content is some of the most interesting out there
I bought an A2000 12GB card last week for 300€, building a small form factor build with it pairing it with a mini itx AM4, 5600 cpu I had laying around, 32GB ram and a flex ATX 350W silverstone PSU. Deciding on the PC case I'm going to use, but I put it together and it runs great so far. Going to use it for some light gaming, Machine learning, Fusion 360, etc...
@@nicoful86 I haven't tried that yet. But I'm thinking about adding the copper plate mod (27€ or something on ebay), adding a 12V line directly to the shunt and replace the fan with a noctua nf-a4x20.
@@misteragony I'm asuming you're referring to the copper memory shims? About the fan: are you thinking of retrofit it straight into the cooler assembly? EDIT: I added 1.2mm shims to mine which seems to work pretty good
@@nicoful86 I'm thinking of removing the stock fan and shroud. Then mount the noctua fan at the end of the card blowing through a 3D printed shroud I'm going to design. So the hot air will exit through the lowprofile metal bracket. The noctua fan I mentioned has good airflow while being silent at the same time.
It is really amazing to see this kind of gaming performance of a small form-factor GPU at a affordable price! This makes building a gaming system that can perform amazing affordable especially for younger gamers or parents wanting to make a gaming build for there kids but not break the bank but have it preform good too
I have a Dell Optiplex with a i5-10500 that I bumped up to 32 GB RAM, 1TB NVME, 1 TB SATA SSD, and a A2000. I’ve been blown away with the A2000 and it’s performance on modern games at the highest settings on my 165 hz 1080p gaming monitor
The only annoyance I have is the lack of HDMI (which makes sense for it not to have since it’s a professional card). This would be perfect for a living room gaming/HTPC, but HDMI VRR is impossible through DP-HDMI adapters as far as I know. 4K120 without HDMI audio formats or 4K60 with HDMI audio formats should be possible though I think. I would just really miss having VRR.
@@paulrebellion9548 Variable Refresh Rate. Like G-Sync and FreeSync. Lets you play without screen tearing and without the extra input lag that VSync would cause. A lot of newer TVs are implementing HDMI Forum VRR, which is supported by most newer GPUs that have HDMI 2.1 ports.
@@KokoroKatsura Except in the case of something like getting the clocks synchronized to specifically work on something like an old consumer CRT TV, there’s no effective difference between a VGA port and a DP to VGA adapter. There is a difference though between native HDMI 2.1 and DP to HDMI adapters (maybe a future version of DP Dual-Mode will support all HDMI 2.1 features, but it doesn’t currently).
Asus has recently retrofitted a 4K LG OLED TV 120Hz by adding a display port to it (in addition to the hdmi ports), maybe that one could be a nice all-in-one for a living room, serving as a TV and as a gaming monitor at the same time.
I built a 5.0L back-packable pc with an i5-10400f and the Rtx a2000 and I love it. Been using it for over a month now for work and it’s got really good performance and only consumes a max of 220 watts. The card is definitely worth using.
Sadly I suspect small form factor GPUs are dying just because the writing on the wall is that integrated graphics will soon be good enough that low-end discrete GPUs will have no place. Small form factor builds will become sooo much smaller once we can rely on RDNA5 integrated graphics to pull 1440/60. That isn't even considering SoCs. I think this is why Nvidia and AMD stopped competing in this form factor.
However with current RAM there is no way for consumer platforms to reach 300GB/s with DRAM alone, like these Quadros/RTX3060. And the 'strongest' iGPU likely won't be cheap, as we see the iGPU being cut in half in the R5 6000 processors. It sounds more like a cost-effectiveness thing, with 'gaming' GPUs always focusing, or even marketing their dynamic overclocks, low end that can get SFF cards are always going to be heavily cut-down GPUs, like a GTX1650. But it is obvious that a RTX3050, or almost even a 3060 can be power limited to 75w while offering performance similar to a GTX1660 at least. That's a lot more powerful than a 1650. But they probably reckon that for the price it will not be a popular product, so that's why these products simply won't exist. Even if we don't keep a 75w cap, at circa-100w you can already get 'at least' RTX2060 performance with the GPU core off a 3060/3060Ti.
If you're looking to buy one of these definitely go used. The 6GB models regularly go for $250-$300 used (sometimes lower), whereas new are usually upwards of $500.
This si the second time i have seen a recommendation for this particular card The fact it can do well in Cyberpunk (A game that seems to LIKE beating the snot out of graphics cards) is a good sign
I wonder how efficient a ray-tracing 1080p60 gaming rig will be with lots of power consumption tweaks and a locked FPS. If I ever become a RUclipsr. I'd like to grab a handful of efficient motherboards with their best CPUs and compare the results.
You can do a shunt mod to allow the card pull more power and reach 3060 performance. Not From Concentrate has a video called "World's DENSTIEST A2000 Gaming Rig". You can check it for more info
I wonder if we were to use something like a really small thunderbolt 3 dock, and something like a picoPSU if we could make a fairly compact portable eGPU with decent output for the various GPD/Ayaneo devices. I know there's the sonnet pucks, but those aren't particularly great.
This would be cool. There was the aorus gaming box that was outfitted with a 2070 that was super small, but I'm wondering if it could be smaller with this and a pico power supply.
If manufacturers abandoned the desktop card format and made custom PCBs for handheld docks, that would be great. Imagine a Steamdeck dock with a discrete mobile GPU and its necessary power and cooling plus the standard ports offered on the current dock, I bet they can get it pretty tiny and offer the necessary software to seemlessly integrate dock profiles for games!
I had two of them (now with only one), both had an issue that they would enter an "emergency mode" after some time gaming (stuck at ~40% tdp). I found the issue was the mosfets getting too hot (they aren't cooled), even though the GPU/memory temps were ok. I fixed it by putting some copper tape connecting the mosfets to the nearby inductors (this way the fets could dissipate the heat). Idk how nvidia let this pass, the fets should definitely be cooled.
Damn, good thing I kept scrolling through the comments. I will now wait for more reviews on this card! Thanks btw, how long would u game for until this issue started? Was it per gaming session or over longer periods ie days or weeks?
Dude! Stop following my search history! Great I've been researching this for a week and now the prices are going to get jacked up before I can get my hands on one.
You can change the tdp per say by routing the fan to the mobo with a fan adapter. Gets you +3w. 4% more watts! It's easy. I also copper modded it and added thermal grizzly paste to the gpu.
I ordered the copper and some Honeywell PTM7950 SP Super Highly Thermally Conductive PCM Pads for the gpu and memory chips. I will shunt mod it and add the power wire to the shunt to see if it becomes a A2000 ti! LOL
I honestly been waiting for you to test out this graphics card I watch your videos all time they're always very and I thoroughly enjoy watching you build your small form-factor builds
Ehy @ETA PRIME, thanks for the video, great as usual, but benchmark numbers without comparison means nothing and I can't really remember how other PCs and MiniPcs performed. Sometimes I go to your channel and make a manual comparison between the new product been reviewed in the last video and those I have an eye on, but would defintely help if you could include a graph that tells us where it's positioned. I think it would be a nice addition to your videos.
Looking forward to the build. I built a little 5700g build a while ago and would like to swap into a small box with a dgpu but down want to go as big as the NR200 case. Be nice to see the case you use.
I recently did a builld for a work mate with this card for solidworks. we did have a problem adapting the mini dp to hdmi. worked well if it was a single cable converter and not daisy-chaine adapters. im not surprised about the tdp being locked, as I have several dell laptops with this chip in it. And so i have assumed that this was a intended for laptops Glad it has gotten a recomendation.
I really wanted one of these for my HTPC, which I also do light gaming on. But, the A2000 has no HDMI ports, and that is a deal stopper for an HTPC because many streaming services will not stream HD content to a PC that does not have an encrypted HDMI connection to the monitor. I ended up with an RX6400 due to its power efficiency. My HTPC only has a 180W PSU and I don't want to overstress it.
I have been eyeing this card for a while now, even when looking at the used market for half height GPUs, this is far and away the best value even when you consider the higher price for the card.
That RTX A2000 looks so nice You could make such a great mini PC build with that card without it looking over the top or "crazy". Imagine pairing that with a Dell Optiplex 3000 or a 6th gen HP Prodesk.
I hope in the future someone release dock that you can plug one of these small GPU's and you can play Steam Deck, Ayaneo or whatever handheld you have with more power, and replaces the big PC towers
AFAIK the only way to add an eGPU to a Steam Deck is to use something like an ADT Link, which occupies the M.2 SSD slot. Would've been nice if the USB Type C slot on the Steam Deck was Gen 4, that would've given it compatibility w/ eGPUs.
@@ArtichokeAnarchy The higher price is for the 12GB VRAM, performance is more or less the same except in cases where VRAM matters, such as deep learning where you need to load models into VRAM, or in games where the high resolution textures require more VRAM.
Picked up a one of these open boxed for $200 and installed it in my Nuc 9 Xeon Quartz Canyon, it is an excellent pairing. Nice little GPU but it does have fan noise even at idle (not horrid though, it's like a gaming laptop). Thanks for your review, it helped me decide to buy it to replace the 2060 that I was using. On the plus side, the Compute Unit runs 10c cooler now.
This card is absolutely amazing, I just love it. It hits the right balance between price, performance, and being low profile, makes it ideal for a server. It can happily plot Chia in 3.2 mins or so .. which was unheard of, until like 2 months ago..
I finally found a card that can fit in my PC without me having to cut off the PCIe peace and having to keep the case off just to have a big GPU!!! I gotta look into this
Hate to as a Canadian, I rely on your reviews, I feel you are one of the best on RUclips, but I cannot recommend to any of my Canadian Friends, the relevance looses its base total on price of the product in Canada vs the USA.....this card retails for $755.00 in Canada on Amazon, takes it out of the conversation totally for any budget type build, so hate to say there is no reason to watch your videos anymore, the relevance is all based on price these days, and the USA and Canada are too worlds apart these days....Great Channel...keep up the great work and reviews...cheers ETA!!!
Just got one of these last week after watching this (and others) review. Awesome replacement for my RTX 1050Ti. The fan is a little loud (even at idle)...doing a Noctua fan mod and will see if the thermals hold good. Mine actually came with both brackets, so if you're thinking of getting one, hold off on the SFF bracket till it comes in. Thanks for the video!!!
I got myself one of the a2000s from Amazon. Just came in. Mine actually had the LP bracket in the box. It is very clean. Gonna be a few weeks before I get to try it out. Still have to get a few more parts. Couldn't buy everything in one go. Single dad life. But the performance in this video has me excited. Wonder if you could get this card to work in something like a Lenovo p340 tiny or one of the AliExpress minis that come with a gtx 1650.
Wow. Passmark scores my GTX 1660 Ti at 11908, and scores this little thing at 10156 - basically the same. Absolutely amazing power in such a small package. The performance per watt blows my rig away.
Got mine on Ebay for 225 USD. I do not recommed OC this GPU on a LP case, temps are very high on a HP Slimline S3000 case. My card needs a lot of cleaning, i see a lot of dust on the blower fan and aluminum heatsink. After replace thermal pads and thermal paste temps are better,but not by much. Undervolting @ 631Mv @1250Mhz its my recomendation. The clocks are stable and you got a 7c drop on memory and gpu temps. At stock temps was very concerning 86C GPU and 90+ on Memory with fan at full speed. With cleaning,repaste and UV i see now 73°C on GPU and 77c on memory, fan spinning at 85% max
Are you still planning on doing a video about the over clocking results with this card? I have the same card and would like to do a minor over clock to it, but have no idea how to do so.
Eta prime is the only creator whom I watch from a long time, but honestly I was never be able to my hands on any devices he shows till now. So, may be that day will come soon.....
A dual slot card is small now a days... While it might feel pointless performance-wise, I still like to see a single slot with passive cooling being tested.
God am i happy i bought a cheap one just before you made a video about the RTX A2000, your video is gonna increase that thing's price right up again ahha
Dropped $266 after taxes on eBay today for one of these. I think it will work well for what I wanted it for which is mainly 6th to 8th generation emulation and some light to medium PC titles. 👍
I've been looking at pairing this card with an HP EliteDesk 705/800 G5+ SFF. Pairing this card with a Ryzen 3000 series or Intel 9th gen would make a really good emulation machine.
This GPU is a BEAST! I have it paired with a 9700k, 16GB, 1TB SSD, and a 200w Hdplex psu in a 3 Liter itx case. It's about the size of a Xbox Series S, if not a bit smaller on first glance, and it can fit in a small backpack! As long as the LP series of Gpus are supported I can continue to upgrade the system over the years.
@@siyzerix The option to upgrade the GPU, CPU, CPU Cooler, RAM, Motherboard, Storage, and PSU whenever it makes sense and better options are available. I mentioned that in my initial comment.
@@NaanStop96 Oh thats what you meant by upgrade system. I though you meant upgrade the whole system at once. Although, with the way prices are going, GPU upgrades are getting harder and harder to do. And those are the main things. Nvidia's screwed the whole laptop market with ada lovelace too. AMD is gonna be no better. But still. From the value perspective and price to performance, the laptop is the better option. Its even more versatile in use cases and far more compact and versatile.
@Siyzerix No worries, I see your point and a laptop could very well be a great option for most. I myself have a Razer blade from years ago and it's a great machine, aside from running hot. The upgrade option in general, for me, makes it worthwhile...IF I decided or wanted to upgrade any main components I could, where a laptop I'd be stuck with the CPU or GPU years down the line. I'm also a small itx enthusiast, I have a main build in my Sentry 2.0 case.
@@NaanStop96 Ah, I see. Razer blade, alienware, etc. are like the apple of gaming laptops. Not worth it at all. I despise them because they're complete shit. However stuff like the asus rog strix amd advantage packs a 10hr battery life and has performance similar to a desktop rx6700xt and 5700g system. or the likes of the $800 gigabyte g5's with a 3060 that perform close to a desktop 3060. With systems like these you're gonna be fine for the next few years. If you do the research you can make laptops run cooler and faster. I personally sold my old lenovo legion y520 and bought a ideapad 3 that upgrades everything. The display goes from 60 to 120hz, GPU goes from 1050 to 1650, processor went from i5 7300hq to i5 10300h, got 3 drive slots instead of 2, etc. All for just $300. But if you are a mini itx enthusiast, why not upgrade your CPU? The 9700k seems like a power hog. And surely a 5600g is cheaper and faster. Even the $100 4600g would yield similar performance and give you better thermals. I'd also look into those rx6600m turned to desktop cards as a option. They'd likely be faster than this rtx a2000 and be more efficient.
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What CPU do you think we should pair this up with for the SFF build?
Probably one of the new Ryzen 7000 non-x variants. Those things are super power efficient.
I3 12100 would be great :)
13900 KS
12400
The new 13100 would be cool
I don't know about you guys, but personally I find cards like this much more exciting than the massive ones that pull enough wattage to do double-duty as a space heater
Both are good. Not everyone is space constricted dude
Yes, and I will also say I'm glad to see the channel back to covering some of this stuff. I miss the old turn secondhand PCs into batocera emulation machines. I got one of the optiplex mini pcs because of this channel, but lately the coverage has been so much on pretty pricey handheld and stuff. I do like to watch those too but had missed this stuff.
efficiency is something i find very valuable in tech
Yep, that's why we like this channel
@@myaccount__7269 even people that are not space constricted enjoy tiny efficient machines.
Probably the most attractive thing about this card is that it uses all 16 lanes - so you won't have to worry about bottlenecking an older machine running PCIe 3 or 2.
Wouldn't a card with a PCIe X8 4.0 interface have less bottleneck with PCIe x16 3.0 slots?
@@greatwavefan397 What? Those two have the exact same bandwidth. But if a card can physically support 16 lanes, the chance of bottleneck on say pcie 2 pc is not much. If a card is physically 8x, in a pcie 2 pc, the card would receive as much bandwidth as an ssd.
@@greatwavefan397 PCIe speeds are negotiable but lanes are lanes. You'd be running 8 lanes at 3.0 speeds. This is part of the reason everyone thinks the RX6400 is so crappy.
I would really like to see Nvidia and Amd compete in this segment. These are great for giving life to low budget Optiplex gaming builds.
That would actually be cool something that is about as foreign to these corporations as a black guy in Sweden 😂
Yeah I think these will be bottlenecked almost on a optiplex. You can get the 1650 super for like $100 right not and that’s about perfect hell I bought a 2060 evga black single for $120 for last optiplex build I did and that’s about perfect as hell. Although I did replace the psu with a 450 watt evga one for that one with the 1650 super you can use a molex to 6 pin and it will be fine.
These cards would be great for the newer sff oem machines something with a 6th gen Intel are newer .
Yup, many moons ago I used to use a SFF dell optiplex core2duo with an HD 6670 low-profile card to run a dedicated healer on an mmo. (EQ2, not WoW)
Little Optiplex and other SFF PCs are still dirt cheap for pretty decent hardware.
Like an Optiplex 7050 with a i7 6700/7700 and 16GB of ram is like.. $150.
Lol both amd and nvidia just want to bleed people out of their money, neither care about budget gamers
@@JoeWayne84 7th and 8th gen optiplexes and lenovo sff are more readly available, and those probably hold up fine with a A2000.
What a beauty! I love how far low powered graphical options have come
You've put the GPU in a standard size PC case. It would be interesting to see how it performs in a SFF case with a pre-built PC like a Dell Optiplex.
pretty much the same
did u watch the video? he said that he is preparing a small form factor build
@@GewelReal Dell Optiplex with a 13600k cpu maybe
I think the issue with using this in an Optiplex build is that you might be able to get this card used at a reasonable price and you might be able to get an Optiplex with a CPU that won't bottleneck it, _but_ I think you still might end up approaching a price point where it makes sense to consider a new-except-for-the-GPU build that has an upgrade path instead.
If Nvidia would re-release this card as a consumer model and replace the mini HDMI outputs w/ a single HDMI & DP, and sell them for an MSRP of $249.99 USD, I think these would sell like hotcakes.
could not agree more buddy
those are mini displayports, they are often used on Quadros
The problem is that they'd be selling at lower margins and still competing with a massive flood of cheap used GPUs. It might be a while before they decide it makes financial sense to release lower-end GPUs in modern product stacks.
that is what RTX 3050 is.
@@arenzricodexd4409 The RTX 3050 isn't available in low profile and has twice the TDP
Not an LP card but I love my single slot RTX 4000 card. Turned my server tower into a 1440p gaming/CAD monster. Good review, thanks for the video.
Under 100wats is low profile
@@Prodbytocile no. Wattage isnt what makes a card low profile.
@@NpxrDSMNTL bro how much power it pulls is literally a low profile
@@Prodbytocile no. The size makes it low profile. You mean low power.
@@Prodbytocile low profile refers strictly to the size of it. you can make a 4000 series gpu almost the size of this by watercooling it. and the tdp on that thing is not low
I'm excited to see what kind of efficiency upgrade the Ada Quadros bring to the table. These Ampere Quadros are insanely efficient.
About a year ago, I was looking at this card to update an old Alienware X51 that I was still gaming on from 2013. Ultimately I built an all-new rig to enjoy 4K gaming, but if I was going to stick to 1080p, I probably would have just upgraded the old rig and kept limping along. These cards are really impressive for small form factor rigs.
Apparently using RTX cards for 1080p is a waste anyway, I've seen videos suggesting you get more performance if you just set it to 1440p instead.
@@TheRealAlpha2 yeah, between that and the CPU on the old machine-an i7 3770-I decided to just build the new rig instead. The old machine has a GTX 1060 in it, which is actually not bad for 1080p gaming, so I’ll eventually repurpose it as a gift to family.
Actually got one of these this past monday. I love how efficient it is at 70W providing GREAT performance. I use it on my SFF server on where I virtualize it with Proxmox and access it using Citrix Virtual Desktop :) I can even game at 1080p EPIC details over a remote protocol. I love this beast!
It's insane what a 70W card can do. Very nice.
Just fun information, in Canada, it’s $650 new. On eBay, there’s one for about $470. The one I have in our Amazon cart is a GeForce RTX 3050 8GB for $445.
I bought an A2000 2nd hand for a small form factor pc and it's great, it's so power efficient and competent at 1080p, really makes me wish Nvidia would stop making absolutely ridiculous cards like the 4090 for two minutes to make a small form factor GPU that's aimed at the gaming market, the 1650, launched all the way back in 2019, was the last nvidia-branded gaming-GPU in that SFX category but the A2000 demolishes it, it's a total joke that there's no version with a dual fan cooler that's aimed at gamers. (and any AMD cards of this size don't even match the 1650)
It misses some features out like game-streaming capability because its a work station card but there's no reason for it. It can even do RTX! granted you'll have to lower the resolution on minecraft to get any performance with RTX on but still, just shows what kinda power nvidia can actually pack into a GPU without it costing the earth and sky-rocketing my monthly electric bill.
This things MSRP was 450 which was horrible??? Now I know that the vast majority never got a 3000 GPU at MSRP but a 3050 MSRP was 249. Not sure why you even said without it costing the earth when this thing was awfully priced. I will agree that this card is power efficient af and its neat to see what it can do at that limited power but it was not a good value card at all. Only now its somewhat reasonable
The Radeon 6400 is faster than the 1650. The low-profile ones get really hot under load though.
Remember this was targeted for AI customers vs consumers. But I will say there is a market for these types of chips. Or I want to see board partners start completing in this space but using moblie GPUs. One can dream. I am waiting for the NVIDIA RTX 4000 SFF card to come down in price or a 10GB model. Come on Nvidia :)
@@aa-yt7woTrue maybe in select games? But very far from true in PCIE 3.0, the RX 6400 gets demolished by the new 3050 6GB LP that just came out.
@@no-barknoonan1335 the new 6GB 3050 isn't much faster than the integrated GPU on the 8700G. And you can actually assign more RAM to the 8700G of you have enough installed.
YOURE SO CLOSE TO 1 million subs man! This is crazy! I remember watching your videos when you were still in the 80.000s!
Absolutely amazing milestone, ETA, your content is some of the most interesting out there
I bought an A2000 12GB card last week for 300€, building a small form factor build with it pairing it with a mini itx AM4, 5600 cpu I had laying around, 32GB ram and a flex ATX 350W silverstone PSU. Deciding on the PC case I'm going to use, but I put it together and it runs great so far. Going to use it for some light gaming, Machine learning, Fusion 360, etc...
you did good, I got my 12GB for €400.
Unfortuantely mine isn't a good overclocker
@@nicoful86 I haven't tried that yet. But I'm thinking about adding the copper plate mod (27€ or something on ebay), adding a 12V line directly to the shunt and replace the fan with a noctua nf-a4x20.
@@misteragony I'm asuming you're referring to the copper memory shims?
About the fan: are you thinking of retrofit it straight into the cooler assembly?
EDIT: I added 1.2mm shims to mine which seems to work pretty good
@@nicoful86 I'm thinking of removing the stock fan and shroud. Then mount the noctua fan at the end of the card blowing through a 3D printed shroud I'm going to design. So the hot air will exit through the lowprofile metal bracket. The noctua fan I mentioned has good airflow while being silent at the same time.
I'm testing the T1000 and also very impressed. The A2000 sounds great also.
Rx 6400 performs better with PCI-E gen 4 and also is far cheaper, btw how are you verified with 3 subscribers?
@@yippy7951 google +
By the way, NVIDIA Image Scaling is NOT DLSS, its a spatial upscaler like FSR 1.0.
It is really amazing to see this kind of gaming performance of a small form-factor GPU at a affordable price! This makes building a gaming system that can perform amazing affordable especially for younger gamers or parents wanting to make a gaming build for there kids but not break the bank but have it preform good too
A universal hand-held x86 dock with one of these cards built into it would be awesome
That would be insane, umm and awesome!
I paired on with my Dell Optiplex i5-6500 and it's an emulation and HTPC monster.
Was literally thinking the same thing, got a 3050 here
Thank you for this video. This is exactly what I was looking for.
I enjoy that opening bit of your videos (the robot playing game), one of the coolest intros.
I have a Dell Optiplex with a i5-10500 that I bumped up to 32 GB RAM, 1TB NVME, 1 TB SATA SSD, and a A2000. I’ve been blown away with the A2000 and it’s performance on modern games at the highest settings on my 165 hz 1080p gaming monitor
literally same spot as you LMAO except i have an acer aspire
The only annoyance I have is the lack of HDMI (which makes sense for it not to have since it’s a professional card). This would be perfect for a living room gaming/HTPC, but HDMI VRR is impossible through DP-HDMI adapters as far as I know. 4K120 without HDMI audio formats or 4K60 with HDMI audio formats should be possible though I think. I would just really miss having VRR.
both are digital, why no vga output
since you have zelda/pacman avatar
What is VRR?
@@paulrebellion9548
Variable Refresh Rate. Like G-Sync and FreeSync. Lets you play without screen tearing and without the extra input lag that VSync would cause. A lot of newer TVs are implementing HDMI Forum VRR, which is supported by most newer GPUs that have HDMI 2.1 ports.
@@KokoroKatsura
Except in the case of something like getting the clocks synchronized to specifically work on something like an old consumer CRT TV, there’s no effective difference between a VGA port and a DP to VGA adapter. There is a difference though between native HDMI 2.1 and DP to HDMI adapters (maybe a future version of DP Dual-Mode will support all HDMI 2.1 features, but it doesn’t currently).
Asus has recently retrofitted a 4K LG OLED TV 120Hz by adding a display port to it (in addition to the hdmi ports), maybe that one could be a nice all-in-one for a living room, serving as a TV and as a gaming monitor at the same time.
I built a 5.0L back-packable pc with an i5-10400f and the Rtx a2000 and I love it. Been using it for over a month now for work and it’s got really good performance and only consumes a max of 220 watts. The card is definitely worth using.
Thanks dude. Time to share your video to my community.
Can't wait for the build using this card!
Sadly I suspect small form factor GPUs are dying just because the writing on the wall is that integrated graphics will soon be good enough that low-end discrete GPUs will have no place. Small form factor builds will become sooo much smaller once we can rely on RDNA5 integrated graphics to pull 1440/60.
That isn't even considering SoCs.
I think this is why Nvidia and AMD stopped competing in this form factor.
However with current RAM there is no way for consumer platforms to reach 300GB/s with DRAM alone, like these Quadros/RTX3060. And the 'strongest' iGPU likely won't be cheap, as we see the iGPU being cut in half in the R5 6000 processors.
It sounds more like a cost-effectiveness thing, with 'gaming' GPUs always focusing, or even marketing their dynamic overclocks, low end that can get SFF cards are always going to be heavily cut-down GPUs, like a GTX1650. But it is obvious that a RTX3050, or almost even a 3060 can be power limited to 75w while offering performance similar to a GTX1660 at least. That's a lot more powerful than a 1650. But they probably reckon that for the price it will not be a popular product, so that's why these products simply won't exist.
Even if we don't keep a 75w cap, at circa-100w you can already get 'at least' RTX2060 performance with the GPU core off a 3060/3060Ti.
I can't believe you made a video like this without testing some emulators! I'm crushed!
If you're looking to buy one of these definitely go used. The 6GB models regularly go for $250-$300 used (sometimes lower), whereas new are usually upwards of $500.
This si the second time i have seen a recommendation for this particular card
The fact it can do well in Cyberpunk (A game that seems to LIKE beating the snot out of graphics cards) is a good sign
I wonder how efficient a ray-tracing 1080p60 gaming rig will be with lots of power consumption tweaks and a locked FPS.
If I ever become a RUclipsr. I'd like to grab a handful of efficient motherboards with their best CPUs and compare the results.
You can do a shunt mod to allow the card pull more power and reach 3060 performance. Not From Concentrate has a video called "World's DENSTIEST A2000 Gaming Rig". You can check it for more info
I wonder if we were to use something like a really small thunderbolt 3 dock, and something like a picoPSU if we could make a fairly compact portable eGPU with decent output for the various GPD/Ayaneo devices.
I know there's the sonnet pucks, but those aren't particularly great.
This would be cool. There was the aorus gaming box that was outfitted with a 2070 that was super small, but I'm wondering if it could be smaller with this and a pico power supply.
following. would be great if ETA Prime replied to this one
If manufacturers abandoned the desktop card format and made custom PCBs for handheld docks, that would be great. Imagine a Steamdeck dock with a discrete mobile GPU and its necessary power and cooling plus the standard ports offered on the current dock, I bet they can get it pretty tiny and offer the necessary software to seemlessly integrate dock profiles for games!
I had two of them (now with only one), both had an issue that they would enter an "emergency mode" after some time gaming (stuck at ~40% tdp). I found the issue was the mosfets getting too hot (they aren't cooled), even though the GPU/memory temps were ok. I fixed it by putting some copper tape connecting the mosfets to the nearby inductors (this way the fets could dissipate the heat). Idk how nvidia let this pass, the fets should definitely be cooled.
Damn, good thing I kept scrolling through the comments. I will now wait for more reviews on this card! Thanks btw, how long would u game for until this issue started? Was it per gaming session or over longer periods ie days or weeks?
Thanks for the tip.
Always the best videos. Thank you
DUDE YOU ARE ABOUT TO HIT 1 MILLION!!!
It's pretty insane, never thought I'd hit 100k
@@ETAPRIME You did hit 1 million! Congratualtions!
Dude! Stop following my search history! Great I've been researching this for a week and now the prices are going to get jacked up before I can get my hands on one.
You can change the tdp per say by routing the fan to the mobo with a fan adapter. Gets you +3w. 4% more watts! It's easy. I also copper modded it and added thermal grizzly paste to the gpu.
I ordered the copper and some Honeywell PTM7950 SP Super Highly Thermally Conductive PCM Pads for the gpu and memory chips. I will shunt mod it and add the power wire to the shunt to see if it becomes a A2000 ti! LOL
@@jamesdavis8726 👍👍
w/2x USBc Gen4 ports & x86 support, the Windows 11 ARM dev kit 2023 PC would sure be all the more awesome with an eGPU...(?)!
That’s the exact one I ordered on Amazon s as few weeks ago. It’s been fantastic
I honestly been waiting for you to test out this graphics card I watch your videos all time they're always very and I thoroughly enjoy watching you build your small form-factor builds
I picked one up today after watching your video. These cards are a gem. Glad I found it for $250 refurbished.
Wow, that performance especially in cyberpunk was astounding….
Keep up the good videos and congrats on 1 million subs!
Ehy @ETA PRIME, thanks for the video, great as usual, but benchmark numbers without comparison means nothing and I can't really remember how other PCs and MiniPcs performed.
Sometimes I go to your channel and make a manual comparison between the new product been reviewed in the last video and those I have an eye on, but would defintely help if you could include a graph that tells us where it's positioned.
I think it would be a nice addition to your videos.
Looking forward to the build. I built a little 5700g build a while ago and would like to swap into a small box with a dgpu but down want to go as big as the NR200 case. Be nice to see the case you use.
I went from the NR200 to a K39 ITX 5L case. The size difference is massive.
I recently did a builld for a work mate with this card for solidworks. we did have a problem adapting the mini dp to hdmi. worked well if it was a single cable converter and not daisy-chaine adapters.
im not surprised about the tdp being locked, as I have several dell laptops with this chip in it. And so i have assumed that this was a intended for laptops
Glad it has gotten a recomendation.
I'm On The Bell & I Look Forward To Seeing It.
I really wanted one of these for my HTPC, which I also do light gaming on. But, the A2000 has no HDMI ports, and that is a deal stopper for an HTPC because many streaming services will not stream HD content to a PC that does not have an encrypted HDMI connection to the monitor. I ended up with an RX6400 due to its power efficiency. My HTPC only has a 180W PSU and I don't want to overstress it.
rent a seedbox and just pirate
I have been eyeing this card for a while now, even when looking at the used market for half height GPUs, this is far and away the best value even when you consider the higher price for the card.
Pair this with a good cpu and it can even run games at 4k low at 30fps
That RTX A2000 looks so nice You could make such a great mini PC build with that card without it looking over the top or "crazy". Imagine pairing that with a Dell Optiplex 3000 or a 6th gen HP Prodesk.
I am adding it to my hp 795 has an I7 8700
@@jamesdavis8726 Nice!
I hope in the future someone release dock that you can plug one of these small GPU's and you can play Steam Deck, Ayaneo or whatever handheld you have with more power, and replaces the big PC towers
AFAIK the only way to add an eGPU to a Steam Deck is to use something like an ADT Link, which occupies the M.2 SSD slot. Would've been nice if the USB Type C slot on the Steam Deck was Gen 4, that would've given it compatibility w/ eGPUs.
I really enjoy watching. the card is great.
Can't wait to see this build
The 12GB variant looks to be a better investment in the long-term but it costs almost twice as much.
I agree, though its twice the price its probably more than double the performance. thats the common concensus atleast
@@ArtichokeAnarchy The higher price is for the 12GB VRAM, performance is more or less the same except in cases where VRAM matters, such as deep learning where you need to load models into VRAM, or in games where the high resolution textures require more VRAM.
Picked up a one of these open boxed for $200 and installed it in my Nuc 9 Xeon Quartz Canyon, it is an excellent pairing. Nice little GPU but it does have fan noise even at idle (not horrid though, it's like a gaming laptop). Thanks for your review, it helped me decide to buy it to replace the 2060 that I was using. On the plus side, the Compute Unit runs 10c cooler now.
Before anyone i say Congratulations for 1 million subscribers. 🌷💙🌟
I think the auto focus on your camera is messed up since I noticed a lot of focus pulsing in the video.
Wow! Nice performance.
This card is absolutely amazing, I just love it.
It hits the right balance between price, performance, and being low profile, makes it ideal for a server.
It can happily plot Chia in 3.2 mins or so .. which was unheard of, until like 2 months ago..
Thats seriously impressive how small that is
I’m honestly impressed . And I honestly love the look of the card
These are $600 now unfortunately but i’ve been running it the passed couple days and stress testing it, happy with my purchase
i got the 12gb
Just bought one for my SFF build. Absolutely amazing card for the price! Blows GTX 1650 and RX 6400 out of the water!
I finally found a card that can fit in my PC without me having to cut off the PCIe peace and having to keep the case off just to have a big GPU!!! I gotta look into this
Have always appreciated the Quadro series for its efficiency goal
Hate to as a Canadian, I rely on your reviews, I feel you are one of the best on RUclips, but I cannot recommend to any of my Canadian Friends, the relevance looses its base total on price of the product in Canada vs the USA.....this card retails for $755.00 in Canada on Amazon, takes it out of the conversation totally for any budget type build, so hate to say there is no reason to watch your videos anymore, the relevance is all based on price these days, and the USA and Canada are too worlds apart these days....Great Channel...keep up the great work and reviews...cheers ETA!!!
Just got one of these last week after watching this (and others) review. Awesome replacement for my RTX 1050Ti. The fan is a little loud (even at idle)...doing a Noctua fan mod and will see if the thermals hold good. Mine actually came with both brackets, so if you're thinking of getting one, hold off on the SFF bracket till it comes in. Thanks for the video!!!
love your content. keep up the good work.
I got myself one of the a2000s from Amazon. Just came in. Mine actually had the LP bracket in the box. It is very clean. Gonna be a few weeks before I get to try it out. Still have to get a few more parts. Couldn't buy everything in one go. Single dad life. But the performance in this video has me excited. Wonder if you could get this card to work in something like a Lenovo p340 tiny or one of the AliExpress minis that come with a gtx 1650.
dang, single dad life. I'm not a single dad but I've struggled w/ having extra funds for projects like this. Hope it turns out great amigo! 👍👍
Wow. Passmark scores my GTX 1660 Ti at 11908, and scores this little thing at 10156 - basically the same. Absolutely amazing power in such a small package. The performance per watt blows my rig away.
I got 3 sff pcs (2 HP 1 Dell) for 125€ i keep them around just for casual gaming and they do deliver 👌
I would like to see this card paired with a Dell OptiPlex
This is THE graphics card I hope we possibly get more of these in the future
I plan to use this for an optiplex and pairing it up with an i9 9900K, so nice review for me.
Got mine on Ebay for 225 USD.
I do not recommed OC this GPU on a LP case, temps are very high on a HP Slimline S3000 case.
My card needs a lot of cleaning, i see a lot of dust on the blower fan and aluminum heatsink.
After replace thermal pads and thermal paste temps are better,but not by much.
Undervolting @ 631Mv @1250Mhz its my recomendation.
The clocks are stable and you got a 7c drop on memory and gpu temps.
At stock temps was very concerning 86C GPU and 90+ on Memory with fan at full speed.
With cleaning,repaste and UV i see now 73°C on GPU and 77c on memory, fan spinning at 85% max
Old office pc gamers unite!!!
Are you still planning on doing a video about the over clocking results with this card? I have the same card and would like to do a minor over clock to it, but have no idea how to do so.
Yes I want to see your mini PC video. Mostly so I can take your idea and make one for myself ☺️
Eta prime is the only creator whom I watch from a long time, but honestly I was never be able to my hands on any devices he shows till now. So, may be that day will come soon.....
Waiting for the bracket, measure 5 times then cut with grinder then 90 degree bend with an angle vice job done.
A dual slot card is small now a days...
While it might feel pointless performance-wise, I still like to see a single slot with passive cooling being tested.
There is a single slot mod designed by someone on sff forums
Id love to someday see a benchmark of this A2000 running though the m.2 slot on an Odroid H3+. There doesnt seem to be anything like it on youtube.
God am i happy i bought a cheap one just before you made a video about the RTX A2000, your video is gonna increase that thing's price right up again ahha
Damn that perfromance is insane for such a small sized gpu
Dropped $266 after taxes on eBay today for one of these. I think it will work well for what I wanted it for which is mainly 6th to 8th generation emulation and some light to medium PC titles. 👍
I've been looking at pairing this card with an HP EliteDesk 705/800 G5+ SFF. Pairing this card with a Ryzen 3000 series or Intel 9th gen would make a really good emulation machine.
Almost 1Million Subscribers!
I am amazed. But not suprised as we have gaming laptops with much powerful gpus which are probably much smaller than these.
idk what's worse... the fact this thing works so well, or the fact that it's faster than my RX580...
Advance congrats for 1 million 🔥🫶
I just bought one today after watching your video for 330 euro, new. Gonna upgrade my gtx 1650 on my lenovo sff. Thanks.
hello. did you put this in a lenovo 340 or 360 ?
This GPU is a BEAST! I have it paired with a 9700k, 16GB, 1TB SSD, and a 200w Hdplex psu in a 3 Liter itx case.
It's about the size of a Xbox Series S, if not a bit smaller on first glance, and it can fit in a small backpack! As long as the LP series of Gpus are supported I can continue to upgrade the system over the years.
Why not get a laptop at that point? 3060 laptops with a 5600h would literally be stronger than this rtx a2000 and 9700k desktop.
@@siyzerix The option to upgrade the GPU, CPU, CPU Cooler, RAM, Motherboard, Storage, and PSU whenever it makes sense and better options are available. I mentioned that in my initial comment.
@@NaanStop96 Oh thats what you meant by upgrade system. I though you meant upgrade the whole system at once.
Although, with the way prices are going, GPU upgrades are getting harder and harder to do. And those are the main things.
Nvidia's screwed the whole laptop market with ada lovelace too. AMD is gonna be no better.
But still. From the value perspective and price to performance, the laptop is the better option. Its even more versatile in use cases and far more compact and versatile.
@Siyzerix No worries, I see your point and a laptop could very well be a great option for most. I myself have a Razer blade from years ago and it's a great machine, aside from running hot.
The upgrade option in general, for me, makes it worthwhile...IF I decided or wanted to upgrade any main components I could, where a laptop I'd be stuck with the CPU or GPU years down the line.
I'm also a small itx enthusiast, I have a main build in my Sentry 2.0 case.
@@NaanStop96 Ah, I see.
Razer blade, alienware, etc. are like the apple of gaming laptops. Not worth it at all. I despise them because they're complete shit. However stuff like the asus rog strix amd advantage packs a 10hr battery life and has performance similar to a desktop rx6700xt and 5700g system. or the likes of the $800 gigabyte g5's with a 3060 that perform close to a desktop 3060. With systems like these you're gonna be fine for the next few years.
If you do the research you can make laptops run cooler and faster. I personally sold my old lenovo legion y520 and bought a ideapad 3 that upgrades everything. The display goes from 60 to 120hz, GPU goes from 1050 to 1650, processor went from i5 7300hq to i5 10300h, got 3 drive slots instead of 2, etc. All for just $300.
But if you are a mini itx enthusiast, why not upgrade your CPU? The 9700k seems like a power hog. And surely a 5600g is cheaper and faster. Even the $100 4600g would yield similar performance and give you better thermals. I'd also look into those rx6600m turned to desktop cards as a option. They'd likely be faster than this rtx a2000 and be more efficient.
can't wait for low profile RTX 4050 or RX 7400, pleeeease Lisa and Jacket
I would Love to see a Mini PC bult with it also overclock it.....
I've seen a single slot mod for the A2000 on sff forums where they make a custom LP cooler
wow, this little card is a beast
Wonder if the 12 gb model would do a lot better? I know the price is more than double...