Comparison: Alder vs Ash - Fender Custom Shop ´68 ´69 Stratocaster

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  • Comparison between two Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster.
    Which do you like more?
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    Fender Custom Shop ´68 Heavy Relic Stratocaster Black - Maple Neck & Fretboard / Ash Body -
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Комментарии • 143

  • @Jamboljazz
    @Jamboljazz 4 года назад +40

    For me ... alder is great

    • @Sugiono666
      @Sugiono666 4 года назад +2

      Tetep lah alder fer,....

  • @randallscott6
    @randallscott6 10 дней назад

    Man...this guy is a rocker! Got the tattoos too !

  • @jongonzalez6917
    @jongonzalez6917 4 года назад +19

    Wow! I have two swamp ash strat-styled guitars, and I was sure I’d prefer the swamp ash tone in this video....I did not. The alder sounds much fuller and I like it! Great job! Great vid!

    • @davolthe1261
      @davolthe1261 4 года назад +6

      Bcs these are two different guitars folks, woods in electric guitars surely can't make this much difference, it's just different electronics or different amp settings, seriously there is no way, usually woodtone difference is VERY minimal especially between these two woods, just watch comparisons with same electronics for genuine test.

    • @1mihayes
      @1mihayes 4 года назад +1

      Davolthe I totally agree with you on this. It’s way more than just the woods. Ash generally is preferred by most. This seems to be more about the pickups and guitars than the body woods.

    • @MrEpic-lf4gn
      @MrEpic-lf4gn 4 года назад +2

      @@1mihayes You are both idiots.

    • @kvtar
      @kvtar Год назад

      Funny how you may like the way a certain wood sounds when you play it, but hate it when someone else does. I slightly prefer swamp ash on most of the samples, but keep in mind the sound your HANDS make too.

    • @lousekoya1803
      @lousekoya1803 11 месяцев назад +1

      Me too !

  • @scotttrezak674
    @scotttrezak674 2 года назад +8

    The ash shines on the clean "in between" positions. So much definition in the bottom and top

  • @roadtonever
    @roadtonever 3 года назад +8

    Alder for leads, ash for rhythm.

  • @alexiep7972
    @alexiep7972 4 года назад +2

    0:35 neck and middle then back to neck, very smooth transition, hats off

  • @brownerthanu
    @brownerthanu Месяц назад +1

    Unless all the parts are swapped it hard to attribute it solely to the body, due to variation in the electronics. Pots, pickups, capacitors. They all vary within tolerance.

  • @JudeSkyi
    @JudeSkyi 3 года назад +4

    Superb playing brother! That second riff is straight heat! 🔥

  • @marcellofreitas7356
    @marcellofreitas7356 3 года назад +3

    I have a Mexican Fender of alder with maple fingerboard and I love it more and more every day. But ash has great tone too.

  • @alexiep7972
    @alexiep7972 4 года назад +2

    like the way the guy plays with the switch, 0:33 smooth and rapid transition from bridge to neck

  • @skgate
    @skgate 2 года назад +14

    Dont forget that theres two different types of Ash that Fender uses, Swamp Ash which is lighter and Northern Ash which is heavy.. An alder body would weigh about 7.5lbs, swamp ash would be around 6.8lbs and the northern ash can be 10lbs. I believe that would make a difference. My 10lb ash Vintera strat sounds like no other strat ive heard so far

  • @Relicsun
    @Relicsun 3 года назад +3

    My fender custom shop 62 Strat is ash and it’s sounds amazing!

  • @HiromiMaruyama
    @HiromiMaruyama Месяц назад

    My ear is not good enough to tell difference though I can tell based on your great video. I would rather care for the neck and pickups.

  • @soofitnsexy
    @soofitnsexy 3 года назад +6

    subtle but it is different same guitar same pickups similar weight but their is a depth and a touch more magic in the alder body...IN THIS CASE

  • @gilovadya3607
    @gilovadya3607 Месяц назад

    beautiful man! great test

  • @dennisfrank1974
    @dennisfrank1974 4 года назад +3

    I like the black one

  • @Tangent_Frank
    @Tangent_Frank 4 года назад +3

    alder; punchy and crystal clear. ash; warmer and a little more rolled off. alder would be really nice with a sort of bridge position shreddy thing while i think ash would be perfect for just a neck humbucker jazz type thing

  • @davidrocha1419
    @davidrocha1419 Год назад +1

    Im very impressed, the Alder sounds the best in this video and has that Hendrix vibe in the neck pickup position 👍

    • @sbspulse9582
      @sbspulse9582 4 месяца назад

      Hendrix's Strat Blackmoor's are from Ash.

  • @bozopennywize
    @bozopennywize 4 года назад +24

    Ash has fuller tone but Alder has more overtones.

    • @nsc217
      @nsc217 2 года назад

      What’s the difference? The alder sounds like it has more high end to me… Ash is a bit dull

  • @jonduke3919
    @jonduke3919 2 года назад +2

    I have both the ash sounds darker an duller old school that’s why I like them. I still think mohogony sounds the best.

  • @mapleash9586
    @mapleash9586 4 года назад +5

    Ash👍

  • @jorgea3507
    @jorgea3507 2 года назад +10

    Alder for me, had clarity in the notes. The Ash sounded compressed an lifeless. I have an old alder love it. I did however buy the elite, and after 4 months of live shows sold it. This video confirmed any second doubts...great riffs!!

  • @andrewsantos3283
    @andrewsantos3283 3 года назад +6

    This help me decide on what tonewood i will use for my custom strat build. I will go with alder.

  • @michaelwilson8267
    @michaelwilson8267 4 года назад +15

    Ash robs it of something magic

    • @AndyNyle
      @AndyNyle Год назад

      it’s grainier sound and sometimes loses high end

  • @APaclin
    @APaclin 3 года назад +2

    In some cases alder and some ash sound better, in some the same. But actually it doesn't matter how they sound by themselves, what matter is how it sits in the mix :)

  • @i.r.theofficial
    @i.r.theofficial 4 года назад +4

    I do not see the difference on overdrive. On a clean - barely noticeable. Thanks for comparing!

  • @raditya3357
    @raditya3357 3 года назад +3

    Swamp ash has a great tone

  • @topografer
    @topografer 4 года назад +3

    I have to say that the fingerboard material does a way larger difference to my ears
    Maybe I am wrong I don't know

  • @chadnedohin
    @chadnedohin 4 года назад +2

    I was surprised. I was expecting ash to win... but the alder won every time. Alder for me.

  • @snipperacoustics
    @snipperacoustics 6 месяцев назад

    I like the sparkle on clean sound of the ash body. The Alder has more meat on mid frequencies and possibly better for heavier distorted sound but for just clean or slightly overdriven sound you get that authentic american sound with the ash.

  • @canaldoguetoberra
    @canaldoguetoberra 4 года назад +10

    I will name my son Alder

  • @detodounpokoOficial
    @detodounpokoOficial 3 года назад

    Aurez-vous une vidéo jouant les guitares sans les connecter ?

  • @assaulturk
    @assaulturk 3 года назад +1

    any difference? I don't know if its psychologic or not but I always prefer alder.

  • @raditya3357
    @raditya3357 2 года назад +1

    Alder has a bright tone, ash has a warm tone. Alder for lead and ash for chord

  • @benherdsant426
    @benherdsant426 3 года назад +2

    Swamp ash is great. I have both guitars ( alder and ash - in maple ) captation alnico V and ceramic ...the bright on ash is wonderful, but to midles is better play with alder... 🤷🏼‍♂️😰🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @detodounpokoOficial
    @detodounpokoOficial 3 года назад

    friend are the same pickups? on the 2 guitars?

  • @hakarl_
    @hakarl_ Год назад

    Cool tones! Curious what pickups you have in them, especially bridge in the alder one.

  • @blusinbarnesify
    @blusinbarnesify 4 года назад +4

    For One I like everything Raw! No Paint. Or Clear Coats! Let it Hum Vib n Feedback n Breath. With Sweat n Playing the wood will Dye to your own natural color. Now saying Alder is Darker more residence with a Maple neck will make it a bit treble. N Ash is Warm with with a Swampy Tone. Useing Rosewood Necks will always give you more of a Warmer Feeling. Not as Brite. That's just how I hear it if I'm not tone deaf lol. I got 40 years of experience of building n tearing apart Strats n Guitars n I'm no expert. N still looking for that special one that I will say I found Her..

  • @Morte_Deus
    @Morte_Deus 4 года назад +2

    I'm more impressed with that amp sounds to be honest, those kempers are the shit.

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  4 года назад +1

      I still think a well-miced tube amp is better, but with the modelers or profilers you can get good results quickly and easily.

    • @Morte_Deus
      @Morte_Deus 4 года назад

      @@MikeMarkwitz ' I agree, i sold my kemper and went back to tube amps, kemper is great for what it is but i got tired of the constant tweaking.

  • @rrjf432
    @rrjf432 4 года назад +4

    Depends but I'd say Ash... every ash guitar has a different and inconsistent sound. Alder every guitar has a similar sound. Alder 9 out of 10 guitars are good. Ash is like 3 to 4 out of 10 are amazing and great. But those 3 out of 4 will destroy any alder guitar. 😢

    • @topografer
      @topografer 4 года назад

      I've heard that about ash, that it's too inconsistent. I don't know if it's true, I guess when a lot of people say it, it has to be. Alder on the other hand is indeed the most consistent of woods, and to my ears great sounding too.

  • @akac7546
    @akac7546 4 года назад +4

    ash like srv

  • @jimo1294
    @jimo1294 Год назад

    Are all things equal except body wood? Same pickups, same p/u heights? Same string brand? If so, the alder sounds better.

  • @lestar7555
    @lestar7555 4 года назад +8

    Ash sound is amazing

  • @Necca_UK
    @Necca_UK 9 дней назад

    Ash is much better in all versions. More clarity, more ringing, more
    Overtone harmonics.

  • @nickrook5519
    @nickrook5519 Год назад

    to my ear it’s hard to compare because the sunburst sounds like ‘69 custom shop p/u’s and the other ‘50s p/u’s

  • @robsmith6443
    @robsmith6443 2 года назад

    Well, as a tonewood that alder was a great classic sound, but I didn't love the Ash...I came here because I'm looking at a guitar with an Ash fretboard though. IME that does affect tone but differently, and also affects feel...I have no experience with an Ash board though.

  • @PulauSwan
    @PulauSwan 4 месяца назад

    I don't see how this comparison is credible, what is incredible: is that some people believe it is.

  • @Mariduano
    @Mariduano 3 года назад

    Need both

  • @berndkoelbl3852
    @berndkoelbl3852 4 года назад

    Hello Mike ! Maybe you could show us this comparison with clean and light distorted sounds ?

    • @adrianhjordan1981
      @adrianhjordan1981 3 года назад +1

      Did you watch the whole video? He does

    • @pedroadabar5706
      @pedroadabar5706 3 года назад +1

      @@adrianhjordan1981 perhaps he meant with some crunch, this is, some overdrive, no distortion. That sound is always very interesting to listen to.

  • @jonathanrossmusic2509
    @jonathanrossmusic2509 3 года назад +1

    I see what you did with the toggle switch! Very slick. Great video !

  • @michaelinglis8516
    @michaelinglis8516 3 года назад

    Those strat pups handle higher gain(higher gain for a strat, think heavier gain from a TS9) really well but also have great spank and openness when clean. I'm building a telecaster now but next I'll probably build a strat. Are the pickups in this video the ones the fender custom shop used or aftermarket? Whatever they are I'm really digging them!
    I liked the Alder more but I'm not listening through my studio monitors or monitoring headphones, just my phone. I'll have to listen again later when I'm at my computer.

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  3 года назад

      My favorite Strat Single Coils. These are the right '69 from the Custom Shop.

    • @michaelinglis8516
      @michaelinglis8516 3 года назад

      @@MikeMarkwitz I can certainly see why they are your favorite. Again, they sound excellent. Thanks for the info!

  • @obmen_veshei
    @obmen_veshei Год назад

    Ash❤

  • @ov-studios
    @ov-studios 2 месяца назад

    Alder for me

  • @Владычецморской
    @Владычецморской 2 года назад

    Need to hear alder and ash top

  • @2216sammy
    @2216sammy 2 года назад

    Ash all the way especially for lead tones.

  • @pedroadabar5706
    @pedroadabar5706 3 года назад

    IMAO I find alder more subtile, clean, defined, even sweet, and the lows are more perceptible as if the middles were weaker than in ash. The Vintera 50s strato MN has that body in the Sonic Blue (SB) colour, and I do love her.

    • @qua7771
      @qua7771 2 года назад

      Agree. I'm finding that my ash guitars need a pickup with more mids. I like the snap of ash, and the scoop, but it needs the right pup.

  • @tricolor6184
    @tricolor6184 4 года назад +1

    Which WOOD does the guitar get heavier ???

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  4 года назад +1

      I already had a lot of Ash Guitars in my hand, which were either very heavy (over 4kg) or quite light. (2.8 - 3.3kg) The Alder Strats were mostly between 3.3 - 3.7kg

    • @tricolor6184
      @tricolor6184 4 года назад

      Ok.... THANK

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  4 года назад +1

      @@tricolor6184 My pleasure

  • @mahindrajairam3635
    @mahindrajairam3635 3 года назад

    Its all about the fingers and who plays the guitar.

  • @vidmohit4684
    @vidmohit4684 2 года назад

    Alder sounds much more pleasing to me.

  • @evks82
    @evks82 3 года назад

    what kind of pickup sounds great i want to change my yosemite pickups?

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  3 года назад

      If you like the Sounds in this Video, try the Fender '69 Custom Shop Single Coils.

  • @davidsugitanoto4708
    @davidsugitanoto4708 3 года назад

    Ash very bright clean
    Alder more warm like mahogany

  • @tonefreak3403
    @tonefreak3403 2 года назад

    Alder body for me 100%

  • @igor309v
    @igor309v 3 года назад +1

    Ash

  • @Jijo-tt4mb
    @Jijo-tt4mb Год назад

    ASH 😍

  • @user-ts8bl3qe5t
    @user-ts8bl3qe5t 4 года назад

    Hi! The noth have same pickups? I have feeling that alder strat have little bit more output

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  4 года назад +2

      Hi,
      both guitars definitely have Fender ´69 Custom Shop Single Coils. The alder strat simply has a bit more mids. You can already hear that acoustically.

    • @user-ts8bl3qe5t
      @user-ts8bl3qe5t 4 года назад

      @@MikeMarkwitz thanks for answer, which one you prefer?

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  4 года назад +2

      @@user-ts8bl3qe5t It always depends on what you want to play. Clean the ash and with gain the alder. In the meantime I have sold the ash.

  • @yuliasatyawarman4389
    @yuliasatyawarman4389 4 года назад +5

    Alder for strat, ash for tele

  • @nsc217
    @nsc217 2 года назад

    Clean
    Alder 1:11
    Ash 1:35

  • @branislavmandic8122
    @branislavmandic8122 3 года назад +2

    ash more for tele alder for strat.

  • @hrshorty6676
    @hrshorty6676 Год назад

    What I hate about this is you need both ☺️

  • @Theyrewrong827
    @Theyrewrong827 3 года назад

    alder seems a hint more dynamic, but different ears....

  • @abgm8019
    @abgm8019 3 года назад

    Is those guitars has same pickups ?

  • @desertedvoltron
    @desertedvoltron 2 года назад

    alder rhythm: 1:10
    ash rhythm: 1:34

  • @tb90hm
    @tb90hm 3 года назад

    I think alder is better for strat with single coils!

  • @DC180
    @DC180 3 года назад

    well ashwood is done!

  • @DiosDragon1111
    @DiosDragon1111 4 года назад +1

    Alder
    Swamp ash is better than ash i guess

  • @parabot2
    @parabot2 3 года назад

    Each is Unigue in it's own way , and we have tone knobs on the guitar and amp to pull the tone we are after .

  • @tbone786
    @tbone786 Год назад

    the ash sounds like a 24 fret alder!

  • @tommyharrisjr7338
    @tommyharrisjr7338 4 года назад

    Ash is the winner 4 me.

  • @boodeeish
    @boodeeish 3 года назад

    alder bright
    ash warm

  • @agusriyanto7579
    @agusriyanto7579 2 года назад

    Alder is the best !!!

  • @topografer
    @topografer 3 года назад

    I get the feels that alter sounds woodier which is not necesarily good on electrics

  • @reneotten7376
    @reneotten7376 3 года назад

    Alder for gain, swamp for clean.

  • @ClaudioMartella
    @ClaudioMartella 2 года назад

    With two different guitars you are hardly testing the body wood

  • @AndyNyle
    @AndyNyle 4 года назад +5

    ash for clean alder for dirty

  • @zaldum386
    @zaldum386 2 года назад

    Note to my future Self: Ash all the way

  • @teomankarasimsek1756
    @teomankarasimsek1756 4 года назад +1

    we are listening distortion and artifacts, not the wood.

  • @ronniethomas6335
    @ronniethomas6335 4 года назад

    Drop a humbucker in the ash one and it becomes Frankenstein.

  • @oficinadomarcheto
    @oficinadomarcheto Год назад

    Ash is quiter and sweet and alder more screamer

  • @bryanhatch6688
    @bryanhatch6688 4 года назад

    Differences are miniscule at best. Strings, pots, windings in the pups alone could account

  • @Ulloy777
    @Ulloy777 3 года назад

    Ash more twangy?

  • @kilgoretrout321
    @kilgoretrout321 3 года назад

    Ash just sounds better to me

  • @amotsfriedman6945
    @amotsfriedman6945 2 года назад

    Alder sound is much better when you use a lot of distortion.
    Because it does not have many frequencies that are too high.
    I have two guitars of this kind regarding Ash I do not like. Sounds colder and painful in high notes. It does not matter that it has more bottom. With a good guitar amp like Friedman you can get enough bottom. But Ash does not allow to get rid of the high tone no matter what you do.

  • @316diag
    @316diag 2 года назад

    caramel vs. butterscotch

  • @zdsrtgnzetmyet
    @zdsrtgnzetmyet 3 года назад

    1:12 1:35

  • @BobK5
    @BobK5 4 года назад +1

    They both look very scruffy to me and not much to shout about in the tone department either, might as well buy a new one 🤓

  • @fusoperso
    @fusoperso 2 года назад

    Ash win

  • @tringamonga2024
    @tringamonga2024 2 года назад

    Sound same

  • @Ragnar-Viking
    @Ragnar-Viking 2 года назад

    Ash is more chimey

  • @user-py4kl6ez4k
    @user-py4kl6ez4k 3 года назад

    よく見たらアルダーがリバースヘッドじゃないか...比較になんないよ

  • @zemlidrakona2915
    @zemlidrakona2915 3 месяца назад

    Makes zero difference. If you do hear any difference it has nothing to do with the body wood.