Competitive multiplayer of any kind has been straight up killed thanks to botting and it's largely thanks to these grind based business models. Valve and other companies that do this business model are just as guilty when it comes to the skin market because there are entire bot farms that make thousands out of this. Ironically, if they did away with letting people get skins this way regardless of what option they picked, their income stream would dry up instantly and game devs could still make money. Whenever I jump into a game I know that the playing field has changed drastically but I can't ever tell if I'm playing against bots or not these days and then I realise it probably is a bot based on reading the behaviour. I think gamers should just boycott games like this entirely, it looks like that's mostly the case as people are moving over to co-op gaming and stuff like POE2 which is good. These studios will go out of business if people stop playing.
The machines rose from the ashes of the nuclear fire. Their war to exterminate mankind had raged for decades, but the final battle would not be fought in the future. It would be fought here, in our present. In WoW😂😂😂
So Blizzard refusing to solve the bot issue is causing people to be threatened for trying to stop it themselves. Man, gotta love Blizzard huh? It's so obvious they let botting happen so they can get some extra money each month, disgusting.
@@theguyonyoutube4826 and you don't think Blizzard whose been bloated in cash can do anything about it? If they can threaten corpos, what's stopping them from threatening the president or government or FBI. Maybe these idiots should've stop taking "Dirty money" then none of this would've happened. Corpo greed, face karma before players and the audience you've tried so hard to retain and keep, has finally moved on and stop caring about the so called "Blizzard"
No wonder they let it happen. It makes them tons of money. And enough people don't care about the issue, making it a viable business model for blizzard.
The same thing happened in Albion Online a few years ago. A person gathered people and popular players and organized a massive bot hunts. He got so much hate and death threats he just quit the game forever. We legit have a cartel in a game. Botting empires affected the game's economy so much over the years. people are nuts.
One person can't do everything alone, nor take all the blame. You need to actively get support from everyone both legal and ingame. You need to expose them as they expose you. And even if you step down, you need to inspire others to fight, otherwise you did it for nothing. Remember the PoS people you are dealing with. There's no guarantee they'll honor what they say they will or won't do, even if you bend your knee to them.
This dude clearly got a threat with real details on it and was spooked af. Edit: The fact some people fail to see how someone finding the details of your life and threatening with you, the average joesmoe, with them would spook someone who is doing something for free into running away is beyond me.
Yeah someone definitely got personal info on him or contacted someone he knew irl, otherwise it would've just been brushed off. Hope he and his family are alright.
its not that hard to google someone and get their home address. ppl are just dumb and think a 12 yr old from across the globe can do anything about it lmfao
No effect in retail because they can just resurrect and continue. It's an issue on hardcore because the bots have to start again from level 1 when killed which takes a lot of time and costs the gold sellers income.
@@strawberrylotlizard That's what Im saying. Guilds should go around organising bot - hunting events handing out rewards every now and then to the person with most kills
Once I got a week long ban for killing bots. The bots or the owners of the bots reported me, blizzard's automatic reporting system gave me a 7 day ban. I appealed, but ironically, the customer service is also automated at blizzard, so the customer service bots were not willing to lift my ban.
What this will inevitably cause is people that didn't kill bots to swear oath to only kill bots for as long as the servers are up because the internet hates when something happens that is deemed unfair.
I agree that a game isn't worth permanent death threat harassment, but at the same time you aren't alone, and the gaming community is pretty passionate. If enough people get onboard this movement, it WILL eventually blow up and Blizzard will be FORCED to do something, especially if authorities start questioning/investigating the threats.
What a waste of time. People need to grow up and either get over it, play in different areas or go find a different game. You can always find something better.
Ye just leave the problem thriving untill it'll squeeze you out. What a concept, I wonder why people didn't thinked about it themselve.@@VoidEmergentFox-j7r
Rewarding bad behaviour generates more bad behaviour, it's really simple. Those people are doing something wrong but Blizzard is endorsing it and generating it because they don't care at all and it makes money for them too. They just care about virtue signaling with their ''social contract'' Woke stuff is always for show and money.
@@VolkColopatrion Simple they are putting time into virtue signaling to make themselves look like good guys while not improving the core functionality of the product they are selling. Woke isn't being inclusive, it's banking on stereotyping of the "weaker" groups for profit and using those same groups as a shield against critizism. Srry for my english not my native language .
Valve is the odd one out in the gaming industry, Valve actually has passion for gaming and will very often do things that are financially disadvantaged but is a positive for the gaming experience. Like the new Family share system, it actually makes them lose lots of money, but they just want people to enjoy games.
Thank god you covered this, my small ass made a video about it incase it would be taken down before it reached bigger audiences. Blizzard is also locking and muting threads on the forum talking about this btw.
I would go take it to a news company and see how they run with it. If the media is good for anything its good at putting a magnifying glass on an issue that can get attention. Death threats from a foreign gang over internet money could sell a lot of clicks.
@@isosev You think a News company is going to run a story about threats online. OR gold farming bot people. Most people in the news media don't know about games don't care about games do not cover games, because most people watching it also don't care.
Nah. I blacklisted Blizzard and have been Blizzard free for 4 years. I was Blizzard free before, due to the Blizchung China thing, but played TBC classic for 4 months. I once had a WOW account for 10+ years and bought every game. Even bought the shit D3. Due to me not playing their games it has a knock on as my friends then don't play them. If more people do this Blizzard has a choice. Change or go bankrupt.
reminds me of a situation repeated in britain, whereby a particular group threatens violence and rather than them being punished for their threats and rulebreaking in the first place, those targeted by said group have to remove themselves from society or face judicial punishment themselves
I'm honestly pretty sure that someone on Blizz or even the company is getting some cut from all these botting. You can change the head, but the successor will also get the cut. It seems like the cut is pretty good too
They make money on subs, banning players who buy from bots and the accounts to bot literally costs them money. Theyve likely done the math and determined they make more money allowing botting than they would if they stopped it. I think longterm it wont help them, but short term its probably more profit.
Bots are one of the biggest the reasons I refuse to play blizzard games anymore. They literally don't care. And if they don't care about their games, then neither do I. What a terrible company...
@@taylorcorbett8848 Think of it this way. We don't have to play WoW anymore and we got to experience classic again when it was full of dope human beings who looked out for eachother. We got that for a 2nd time. We got really lucky. Now you vote with your wallet and give up with WoW. It is only a FOMO game with mounts now.
It's been this way since as far back as 2010 and im quite sure much longer than that. It did not matter at all what a player reported to the staff at blizzard. The staff would just say "innocent until proven guilty" and not lift a finger. And the players on forums would back blizzard up 100% of the time so now both groups of idiots being soft on cheaters defending them can sleep in the beds that they made.
I was playing SOD and am in a time zone when Americans are offline (Essentially I was playing WOW in the middle of the night) and I could blatantly see all the Asian Bots running around and it was the same ones every night even after reports they were always there.
"breaking TOS doesn't make you a criminal" Death threats do. If you're already breaking TOS and giving people death threats because you're making money breaking TOS, the entity that made those TOS are responsible if the people getting the death threats end up getting killed.
In my opinion the TOS creators are only responsible for ensuring the TOS are followed. I don't think they should be responsible for any criminal actions that happen outside the game.
At this point, if someone doxxes and threatens your life through Blizzard's game, and the company does NOTHING to curve this behavior, the company should be legally prosecuted and face some degree of consequences.
In the early 2000s, the idea of an MMORPG allowing me to play in a persistent world online was incredible. After 2 decades of interacting with people on the internet, I'm grateful we still have single-player games
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@@Darlf_Sevil I stopped playing Warframe a few years back because it started to take more of my time than I was willing to put in. But it wasn't a bad game, and I never really had a problem with the community. I started playing FF14 in late Stromblood when I quit WoW. I played it up until a month after Dawntrail. It was fun for a while, but I didn't care for this new expansion at all. After the honeymoon was over and I was getting into the high end raiding scene, I realized the game was just as toxic and full of mods as WoW was. They just hide it.
This is why I watch Asmongold, "Public executions aren't for the criminal, they're for the rest of the people that would be criminals" Spot on brother!
I used a fishing program once to level fishing on an alt and received a 6 month ban within 30 minutes of using it. These guys use bots to level 1-60 for years on end with no repercussions. Blizzard absolutely knows that these guys are botting and allow it, there has to be some sort of kickback or some reason they turn a blind eye.
This company is not the same anymore. I’d go as far to say they completely lack any internal integrity checks. Look at Turtle WoW. The amount of people playing that is beyond ridiculous. This would never have been possible when Blizzard was still Blizzard.
Its why vanilla was so good early on, before gold whispers and bots became a rampant issue. The expansion did nothing to solve the problem. Blizzard did nothing, it was the first dent to their image.
It wasn't a faceroll game in the early days, and that was fantastic. The accommodations for casuals and normies really hamstrung and crippled the health of the game/player base
Oh yeah they probably are like that. I guarantee 2/3 of all retail is bots. That's why you shouldn't trust any numbers from blizzard other than how much they made selling mounts
I see people acting like he was giving up for just receiving some random threats online. When they're posting his personal info alongside these threats, and he's messing with their income stream, they stop being random. There's nothing more likely to make someone act on a threat, then by making it a business expense.
A lot of these people don't seem to grasp there is a lot of organized crime involved in botting, they act like it is some 12 year old making stupid threats.
@@bran1886still cringe. I fronted an 8 ball once and didn't get my paycheck when i thought i would. Had to give him my phone and air pods, still got the crap beat out of me. Those are the kinds of threats you take seriously. Was humiliating. Botters are either in a country where they only have Internet 7 hours a day, or some random scammer who doesn't even own a fiream.
Both sides have a point. On one hand yeah, 99.9% of these people are harmless and most likely every single one of those threats are empty. And it's silly to bend over for them. On the other hand, there are people who are truly crazy, that one in a billion people who would actually take a flight across the planet to end someone over a video game. People have done it before. There is always a chance you end up attracting a stalker crazy enough to do it. Not risking it is fair, or at the very least understandable.
"People can't think about things, they can only feel about them" best quote I have heard, it is even defining everything that's popular socially wrong nowadays
There was a similar situation in Eve Online in the mid 2010s. Fortunately the person who was the target of this had an alt account in the discord and was live streaming what was being said by the head of the alliance. The head of the alliance was player banned for the threats by the devs which caused the alliance to collapse.
@ there's 2 kinds of bitters, there's the casual players that are using them (many being whales and a big reason why bliz ignores it) to get up in games while not constantly being at keys to do the actual work. This is partly why I say that both whales and casual players aren't gamers but tourists. The other are the professional bitters and a number of these especially for certain games aren't exactly professional but more forced into this by professional bitters. I found this out in Eve Echoes years ago which a certain Chinese alliance has been doing known as AOA, they are also doing the same thing in the PC version Eve Online but under a different alliance name. Now these groups will not only be bitting and forcing people to bot but specifically manipulating player markets to artificially skyrocket prices of certain valuable items while lowering the prices for items that are less valuable to make them worthless. It's to force whales and casual players to buy these items through RMT and devs let them get away with it because it also forces players to spend real money on gold and loot boxes instead of risking ban from RMT
@ I was playing MUDs for decades, specifically MajorMUD which in the late 90s had started becoming more popular with boards allowing people to run scripts. Due to that it also became popular to find creative ways to mess with those scripts for looting people who died (death caused all items carried to be dropped and a huge part of PvP). In Eve Echoes many will also hunt bitters especially professional botters for this purpose. Some would even make events for it, gamers in WOW should setup an unofficial bounty system for botters, hunting parties, ECT.. to go out and hunt em down, post every botter account in the game for public and make a competition of it. If bliz won't do anything then force em to rage quit. In fact in Eve Online and in Eve Echoes to a lesser extent, people will spend months camping someone or a whole alliance for months until they rage quit. This stems from MajorMUD where I've also been a part of this in camping players for weeks to kill and collect gear they have. All 3 are very ruthless and unforgiving games
@@m.j.e.5245 or have Gamemasters.. imagine if they had actual people on the servers, monitoring interactions and actively banning bots. imagine, like in the old days.
Surface level one dimensional unnuanced thinkers. Ignorant people project their ignorance on others. They are incapable of understanding that reality doesn't operate based on how they think it SHOULD. For example, this can dislike something like gravity but can never acknowledge it's not going anywhere and will still be here after they are dead, so they seethe and winge about it all day in futility. They are sheltered, inexperienced, niave, and unaware. It hasn't happened to them. They haven't seen it. It doesn't exist, that is, unless it reinforces their narrow worldview, which consoles their fragile ego.
Asmons take here is idiotic. He is trying to hide behind “im just explaining it” while denigrating those who disagree with his presumptions. Most people don’t agree that death threats are the obvious answer to competition in the business world.
@@refugeehugsforfree4151 We don't need evidence off-the-bat when we know already how common it is for people to send Death Threats online. Innocent until proven guilty. Benefit of the doubt. You have no reason to not believe them besides trying to be different and being on the other side.
People don't understand the difference between private death threats made by people who are directly impacted financially by what he's doing, and random internet kids publicly raging.
@@Desmond-DarkI was about to say this, having a reason for something doesn't mean it's suddenly okay, my own dad gets this wrong every day, it pisses me off to no end and demonstrates a gigantic lack of intelligence and maturity
And he is absolutely right, that's why I like to shut my mouth and let the experts talk, because what do I know? Not a whole lot in reality, that goes for most of us
Nah, everyone is just proving their point that they are the most terrible gaming company or just company in general. But as long as people still use or consume this thing, nothing will ever happen.
3:10 but that is an attack on freedom though? If people cannot play a certain way in an online video game, entirely within the rules, without their livelihood actually being threatened. That is 100% an attack on freedom, and thus any counter measure counts as defending freedom.
Friendly reminder: If someone claims to be from Taiwan but is involved in illegal activities like gold farming or botting, there's a high chance they are actually serving time in a Chinese prison, working towards sentence reduction by meeting certain quotas.
Worse is the Token allowed bots to become even more profitable because now botters do not have to pay for a monthly sub, Bots just need to produce more Gold then the monthly gold price and they are profitable.
I heard the same thing from Blizz fans over and over and over and over again for like 10 years now, and if you people really stopped giving them money, they would have stopped doing the shitty things they were doing long ago. So obviously it's not true. We all know you'll cave and willingly enter your credit card information the minute Blizzard releases something that pique your interest. The state of the industry long proven that gamers are largely spineless loudmouths.
We have bots in absolutely every game, and it's fair to say that companies aren't doing enough to improve things. But claiming that if a RUclipsr gets death threats from the Russian mafia, it's because of the big bad Blizzard is going too far. The world is in bad shape, but it's not solely the fault of big corporations.
Yes, it's not solely on Blizzard, it is also on the person and group of people doing it. However when you have a game, a market, something as big as WoW? Blizzard has all the power. They are putting greed over not only their players but morality. WoW has been a shell of a game for a long time, or classic servers and SoD wouldn't be a thing, they even fucked up both of those for greed. Blizzard doesn't have sole responsibility, but they have the most power and therefor the main part of it because they can easily fix it.
I played D4 expansion for social reasons. I had buddies... addicted to D4 for reasons I cannot comprehend. Anyway, not any longer. That expansion was just too corporate for me, bro. They advertise Mephisto walks the Earth... and then end the expansion with the same cutscene? The entire story was about asking that little girl how she feels over and over. And it couldn't be more painfully obvious that the story was intentionally made filler, because their analysts predicted everyone would come back for the actual plot when they actually face off against Mephisto. Blizz, no I'm not. You've treated me incorrectly for the last time. If they released everything in the expansion for free and there had been an expansion with Mephisto, I'd maybe even start to have trust in them again like in the 2000s. Instead, they transparently designed the story and its delivery in corporate meetings about how to extract as much money as possible. I'm not playing that game anymore.
Took you long enough to understand them. Welcome to the light brother. I didn’t quit star craft and WoW. I quit blizzard and their antagonistic practices and dark patterns. Their devs spit on me so I left.
2:29 "They don't want to die on the hill of a video game." Well said. Even if 99% of these threats are bluster, there is enough money in gold selling to make the possibility of an actual threat a reality.
But there really isn't. There are no bot farms in America because there just isn't enough money to make it worth doing here. You think a hitman operating in Russia might have a bit of a different rate for a contract in America? They are botting because they are poor, they cannot get a real assassin.
@@refugeehugsforfree4151 Learn something called "Innocent until proven guilty". Why shouldn't we believe he had death threats? Few people would leave their entire channel, all that they own, unless they had good reason. This isn't a lie. He's obviously scared for his family and his life.
@@DracoPlaysYT That is not how claiming stuff works. Innocent until proven guilty is for the people HE ACCUSES of threatening him, not him claiming they did. Kid, you can't go up to a court, claim someone attacked you without proof and the Judge believes you. You're quite literally using that the opposite way lol. You can't claim shit without evidence in court. Period. This is why there's a whole thing called Discovery. So funny how badly you failed at understanding critical thinking skills.
@@refugeehugsforfree4151 I hate the term but it's called "victim blaming". And this isn't a court case, this is the internet. It's a morality thing here. You automatically don't believe the guy, who's literally ending his channel over "nothing". It just seems really horrible of you to side with people who, from what we know, send death threats. (Unless you're a neutral party or something)
people who havnt expierenced stalking or death threats don't understand how people effected by this feel. I was talking to a girl who had a stalker and one day i was out at lunch with her and the stalker had followed her there. He ended up causing this huge scene and everything after we got him to leave us alone. I went home and he when i got there he was waiting outside my lawn its fucking creepy and total invasion of your personal space. I didn't even get death threats or ppl posting my address saying they will feed my fingers to my family i can only imagine what he is going through
My problem with death threats and people caving into them is that it doesnt solve the problem. In a matter of fact, it only makes everything worse. Its nice short term, you give up something here and there because someone said something nasty and "scary", but it only incentivizes more to happen. Terrorism only works because people allow it to work.
Why do you live in places where you can be stalked? Where I live if a dude showed up on my lawn he wouldn't exist anymore and there would be no consequences. Live in a place where you are allowed to defend yourself, learn to defend yourself and you won't be so afraid of other people anymore.
the pressence of bots was what drove me away from Diablo 2. But what drove me away from Blizzard was releasing starcraft 2 in 3 pieces and diablo 3 being bad.
You cant explain that to long term WoW players. It's not a game to them, it's a second job. They take everything that happens in game personally and it effects them. This entire ordeal is dramatic sensationalism by people who can't seem to pull themselves away from a video game.
@@LairdPrydae being a part of the league of legends scene for so many years, its the same thing. so many players have dedicated huge portions of their lives to these games and the things that happen in these games deeply affect their lives in ways people who arent a part of it, could hardly ever understand.
They'll do a ban wave, claim the devs are listening and that theyfinally truly understand. Then they'll quietly stop doing anything about it until the next controversy.
@ I was wondering if he owned it or just worked couldn’t tell. As an owner I’m with him as an employee I use to work retail never cared to stop a thief least not in my area can be a lil risky tbh
@@ratboyiscool nowhere does OP say it's their store, and ANY employee of ANY store is told to let thieves and or shoplifters go, SPECIFICALLY so you don't get hurt. Because if you do get hurt trying to stop a robery, the store isn't responsible for it.
I always blame Blizzard. People care about it because they're putting their time and life into the game and they want a fair game with no one cheating in it and it gets personally upsetting to them when their fun is ruined by people who just want to exploit and make money. And their threats won. Yes You're explaining evil. That upsets people lol
the botting on the new realms is insane. everyone is packed with mage and hunter bots. Honestly just find a good pserver its a way better experince over all.
Or destroy the bots (I play on HC) Pull mobs on them let the mobs do the trick, lose aggro for yourself (FD) Bubble, whatever as long as the bot took aggro it's sqrewed.
@@michaelnielsen7050 Yeah in this regard the Bot situation is worse, but ever since all that shit about Blizzard came out I've been 100% against them, and I'm just shocked that people still support them/buy their products/Play their games after everything that came out against them. But yeah, in this context you are correct
I remember about 10 years ago farming whelpling pets and leather in Azshara in the middle of the night, and out of the blue somebody asked me "This may sound strange, but what server are we on?" I wish I had thought more quickly and thanked them for keeping up the good fight.
you realize you are on the same server as everyone else? if you don't want to interface with gold buyers you don't have to. Ticking that arbitrary checkbox for that little buff does nothing, RMT is completely optional if you don't like it, don't do it.
Classic should honestly be free at this point. Especially era. When you pay a sub you expect: - New content continued being made. - Server maintenance and management. - GM Customer moderation service/support. - The servers remaining online. Aside from keeping the servers online Blizzard has done minimal effort when it comes to classic, especially when it comes to hiring new gms to combat stuff like bots. Private servers are literally better maintained and moderated atm. Atleast with those you know it is a Wild West with a single sheriff keeping the law, while Classic is the Media version of New York telling you it is a safe city to live in but in truth it is almost complete lawlessness in certain areas.
They made SoD which is basically Classic with new content. Hardcore servers also were pretty fun. I mean Classic is doing better than retail at this point.
I stoped playing wow because of bots. But do not forget the community or WOW FORUMs part in this. I was active on forums and i tried to make usefull topics about real problems like bots and simular stuff. But what was the common answer from ppl on forums? EVERYTHING is FINE, gold trade is good, boosting is good ETC.. There are some fckin blizzard funboys on the forums 0/24 who try to discredit every topic, and every ppl who have some problems with the game or blizzards mentality. These are self-proclaimed lawyers or who knows what, but I think they are also part of the problem, because they make forum communication impossible.
@@snagla3095 Maybe, but don't underestimate human stupidity. Maybe they just dont want to accept the fact that the game and blizzard now sucks and the 20 years investment slowly becoming useless. But if the forum would criticize Blizzard unanimously then it might be better in the end xD
02:53 "I mean at the end of the day, let's keep in mind, like none of this really matters, right. It's just a video game, nobody cares about this. It doesn't make any difference, you're not changing anybody's Life, it's not like you're fighting for Freedom."
The fact someone is afraid of botters death threats is kinda funny. These dudes live in a country so bad off that wow and runescape gold is worth more than their dollar. If you that poor you can barely afford to stop to talk ish let alone leave the country to do anything to anyone.
@eddiewouldgo3719 Sure but the point is, if their economy is so bad that video game currency is worth more they don't have the funds to make good on these threats. I have given my address to these folks and said pull up I have firearms and military training. Nothing ever happened because these guys don't have the bread to make anything happen. Lastly bro could have sent them $1000 and they would gladly take in return for leaving him alone. The great thing about living in a first world country is our money is worth lots there so we can spend little and it go a long way. It isnt about if the groups are willing it is about capabilities.
@@Vihara2 No, it's probably because they'll be dismissed as CCP bots or otherwise because they're mainland Chinese. Not sure why being Taiwanese would make whatever they say sound legit, but they still do it anyways.
1/2 the people that are talking about why is this guy bugging out are like fish in a small pond thinking it is a ocean and they know everything in the world when they live in a small pond and are really clueless
When blizzard added the WoW token to classic that was my rubicon. Instead of maintaining the integrity of the game and fixing the gold RMT epidemic, they jumped in themselves to cash in. NEVER will I play another blizzard game.
Gamers let this happen, one day we will take our power back by NOT BUYING THE CORPORATE TRASH. Let these corporations go completely broke, then when they have no option, they will crawl back to us, their customers. Seriously people, STOP BUYING. That is our power over them, and unless WE ALL exercise it, things wont change. It has worked with Woke, it can work for the rest of the issues plaguing gaming like rampant botting.
@@elgatochurro because ff is cringey af to alot of people… bunny boys come on😆 ill play the single player games until god willing a new classic wow type game shatters the industry
2:00 kinda ridiculous he got scared of some random death threats but the threat of getting doxxed and having the pigs show up and possibly killing you is definitely not worth the risk.
Something I don’t understand about dth threats online. If someone puts that in writing on any social media site, wouldn’t they be immediately banned forever?
Just make another account, you'd be surprised how easy it is, it's actually pretty easy to create thousands of social media in seconds using bots and stuff, so banning doesn't do anything
Yep. It's a problem with no good solution. One way to "solve" the problem is connecting people's account to a verified identity system, like a government OAuth service that connects your online account to you specifically. That would solve the botting problem. But it introduces a whole new set of problems by making it potentially very rewarding to breach that government OAuth system and get everyone's personal data, and that's likely worse than the original problem such a system is designed to solve.
I've seen channels for Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm close down or become inactive, it's sad. Blizzard's fall is probably the most tragic one in the whole industry.
It’s actually the buyer’s fault. If no one bought their gold, bots wouldn’t exist. People who pay in video games just to be better than others have and always will be the problem
Let's be real, it's a circle of blame - from the buyers, to the devs to people who exploit their notoriety to promote all the 3rd party lootbox sites etc... it's basically an orgy of degeneracy that has been manifesting for ages through normalization of previous taboos in gamba and now it's basically just the wild west again with crypto and these types of predatory scam sites that prop up this whole bot WoW economy. I would say Blizzard are just *more to blame in that circle really, as they have ultimate control of their products to actually innovate properly and actually protect their users by actively working on a strong solution to combat the problem, which no one else in this circle has control over.
When it comes to being the best people are willing to cheat. People turn a blind eye to it or would gaslight those who sounded the alarm. Even vr games people actively pay for any sort of leg up.
More complex than that. By being so lax for so long, it's stopped being about paying 'to be better than others' and more about staying on the curve because the practice of buying gold has become so standardized and widespread and the playerbase has adapted to it so readily that unless you either buy the gold or play the game like a full time job you WILL be left behind and shut out. Huge part of why the game lost its charm.
it amazes me how unhinged and lacking of any basic empathy some of the chatters are... how can you fkin laugh at someone being scared after getting countless of dth threats???
Again, the problem is, that the people buying it dont get punished.. Its so ridicolous, that Blizz cant figure out, that someone has 100 gold on day 1 and MIRACULOUSLY 1100 Gold on day 2 is buying gold.
Runescape has only JUST started banning buyers , but it has come with its own issues (false bans simply for trading legitimately with someone who is a gold seller)
@nameunavailable-gp3ot Runescape started banning gold buyers back in 2007 I think. When they lost the court case against allowing gambling and RMT and if they did not take action against it, they would be heavily fined and eventually government would take over the whole company. Thats when runescape started to actually take action against RMT and they actually shut down some of the largest gold selling sites.
@nameunavailable-gp3ot Runescape started banning gold buyers back in 2007 I think. When they lost the court case against allowing gambling and RMT and if they did not take action against it, they would be heavily fined and eventually government would take over the whole company. Thats when runescape started to actually take action against RMT and they actually shut down some of the largest gold selling sites.
similar shit happened to me back in 2017 during the Lucid Nightmare secret hunt. I was part of the secret finding discord and was helping figure things out, and by sheer luck I managed to solve the Ulduar puzzle with the lights. the moment I posted it in the discord I was FLOODED with messages saying I was not supposed to reveal it and they would kill me if I did, or wanted to pay hush money for me to not post it. I was an awful experience that basically made me quit the game at the time, only coming back to it recently with TWW. and I promised myself to never get involved with the community again like that and just play the game normally.
That loser that said "breaking the ToS doesn't make someone a criminal," no. You're right. Harassing someone and sending them credible death threats does make them criminals though.
yeah gl trying to charge them in asia. if ur a "content-creator" that ruins others "job" or make content from other people & cant deal with death threats or harassment then idk u might be in the wrong space. if a police officer is scared for his life every second he has to talk to someone, he might be in the wrong job too. just look how many threats asmon or even non drama farming content creators get. its very common these days.
Also i very much doubt that these gold selling botters are paying all if any taxes on their profits. Governments would be very interested in getting their tax dollars from these botters.
@@JayneAFK the overall point he made that made ur initial response. dont fuck with someone if u cant defend yourself. making them "criminals" doesnt mean anything. thats considered free speech.
I wouldn't doubt it - and to be real here, Hardcore WoW shouldn't have been entertained for Blizzard to make it an official thing. I don't see the fun of carefully leveling to 15, and your computer just screws you over to just try to get back on to discover you have to level up again, all because at the moment you were farming beasts for exp in the open.
@@RandoCDN87 that doesn't happen that often what they should do though is run a simple script that makes character disengage when disconnect is detected dota 2 already have this, and it is brilliant it is never beneficial to intentionally disconnect to activate it, but if you disconnect your odds are now much better at not being screwed over
Another minor thing regarding Blizzard I just want to share: I’m a StarCraft player, I played co-op more often but love to relive the story after a while. In the whole 2024 I haven’t been able to play the campaign, any campaign… Wings of Liberty, Heart of the Swarm or Legacy of the Void, none… why? Once you just start a new campaign you play the first mission and after beating it you are back in the introductory video… and you are in a never ending loop. Auto saves don’t work. You can not load a saved file because they don’t appear in the selection… is like it’s empty an new. But they are there in your PC local files intact. So I reported it 3 times in the support system they have… they only send you to the forums, a topic is there with the issue. Also, more people are in the same situation, and nothing happens. A whole year you can’t play a game you own, because some new update f***d up the rest.
@@corberus3119 Do you think that some 12 year old in CoD hasn't threatened your family at least once? Yet here you are, still making comments on the internet.
8:03 "It's not about having empathy, it's about understanding the logical conclusion" - Asmongold. To take the viewpoint of someone else is empathy and I'm glad to see you're capable of it! Blizzard has made a game where some players get a reward if they are willing to take a risk, financial gain is an incredibly strong motivator. They could have solved this issue long ago by themselves allowing and/or adding the features that third parties are selling but have instead decided to support the status quo. Players get understandably upset by "pay to win" and I'm not advocating they only add that and then think they're genius developers, all third party features have to be considered. They did this with the GUI and everyone is happy about that, lots of "quality of life" improvements came from third parties working essentially for free. They also had a great opportunity of being the first studio to develop a DOTA style game but failed to notice it's popularity in Warcraft 3.
they can for sure afford it. they are not playing the game are u dumb? they are bot farms with hundreds of bots automatically farming the game. they just make sure everything is working. he fucked with their money and that is not a good idea.
@@m.j.e.5245 Do you think these bots are teenagers with one single bot alone? Some of these bot farms make millions upon millions. They're not made by "gamers" or people that give a fuck about the game, it's just one of the many money printing machines for pretty huge organizations.
The funny part is that blizzard could inventory their code and find all the bots in 3 milliseconds, then ban violators in 5 more seconds and be done with it. They must want the bots if they're there at all.
I miss the good old days when WoW was about Alliance vs Horde. Now it's about players vs bots.
Competitive multiplayer of any kind has been straight up killed thanks to botting and it's largely thanks to these grind based business models. Valve and other companies that do this business model are just as guilty when it comes to the skin market because there are entire bot farms that make thousands out of this. Ironically, if they did away with letting people get skins this way regardless of what option they picked, their income stream would dry up instantly and game devs could still make money. Whenever I jump into a game I know that the playing field has changed drastically but I can't ever tell if I'm playing against bots or not these days and then I realise it probably is a bot based on reading the behaviour.
I think gamers should just boycott games like this entirely, it looks like that's mostly the case as people are moving over to co-op gaming and stuff like POE2 which is good. These studios will go out of business if people stop playing.
The machines rose from the ashes of the nuclear fire. Their war to exterminate mankind had raged for decades, but the final battle would not be fought in the future. It would be fought here, in our present. In WoW😂😂😂
@@lethn2929POE2 also has an economy that is vulnerable to real money trading and botting though.
It's a difficult problem to combat.
Alliance vs horde was what ultimately led to wow's downfall. Their refusal to move away from it and allow you to play with everyone cost them a lot
For the Hoard
So Blizzard refusing to solve the bot issue is causing people to be threatened for trying to stop it themselves. Man, gotta love Blizzard huh? It's so obvious they let botting happen so they can get some extra money each month, disgusting.
Why would they resolve it when it gives them numbers to show every quarter? 😂😂😂
Gotta love these companies lost passion and professionalism nowadays.
Back when games used to be well taken care of.
They're gonna get those gold sellers don't worry about it wink wink..
You don't think they threaten blizzard employees?
@@theguyonyoutube4826 and you don't think Blizzard whose been bloated in cash can do anything about it? If they can threaten corpos, what's stopping them from threatening the president or government or FBI. Maybe these idiots should've stop taking "Dirty money" then none of this would've happened.
Corpo greed, face karma before players and the audience you've tried so hard to retain and keep, has finally moved on and stop caring about the so called "Blizzard"
Blizzard allowed this to happen.... Fact!
How?
@@VolkColopatrion You daft or something lol?
@@VolkColopatrion Are ya actually stupid?
No wonder they let it happen. It makes them tons of money. And enough people don't care about the issue, making it a viable business model for blizzard.
@@VolkColopatrion because they sat on their hands and allowed a whole industry to grow out of their incompetence
The same thing happened in Albion Online a few years ago.
A person gathered people and popular players and organized a massive bot hunts.
He got so much hate and death threats he just quit the game forever.
We legit have a cartel in a game.
Botting empires affected the game's economy so much over the years.
people are nuts.
People getting scared and abandoning their principles is spineless. Scared off over words on a computer screen. Lol
One person can't do everything alone, nor take all the blame. You need to actively get support from everyone both legal and ingame. You need to expose them as they expose you.
And even if you step down, you need to inspire others to fight, otherwise you did it for nothing.
Remember the PoS people you are dealing with. There's no guarantee they'll honor what they say they will or won't do, even if you bend your knee to them.
You're not talking about @SwoleBenji are you?
@@FantomMisfitthey vote Democrat
@@FantomMisfitsure bro go risk your life over *checks notes* Albion online lol
This dude clearly got a threat with real details on it and was spooked af.
Edit: The fact some people fail to see how someone finding the details of your life and threatening with you, the average joesmoe, with them would spook someone who is doing something for free into running away is beyond me.
Yeah someone definitely got personal info on him or contacted someone he knew irl, otherwise it would've just been brushed off. Hope he and his family are alright.
its not that hard to google someone and get their home address. ppl are just dumb and think a 12 yr old from across the globe can do anything about it lmfao
The Cartel probably just called one of their many well paid members that works inside of Blizzard Entertainment and got his doxx that way.
Dude altf4 like his life depended on it.
@@cloudnine5651 these days you never know every other day Muricans come up with some assasin in their country
And now the bot killing movement will explode 10 fold
@@darkanraiden I honestly want to play retail now just so I can go bot hunting
No effect in retail because they can just resurrect and continue. It's an issue on hardcore because the bots have to start again from level 1 when killed which takes a lot of time and costs the gold sellers income.
@@strawberrylotlizard That's what Im saying. Guilds should go around organising bot - hunting events handing out rewards every now and then to the person with most kills
@Porkey798 if you find one tell me
Hope so!
Once I got a week long ban for killing bots. The bots or the owners of the bots reported me, blizzard's automatic reporting system gave me a 7 day ban. I appealed, but ironically, the customer service is also automated at blizzard, so the customer service bots were not willing to lift my ban.
The bots sticking together
Same for me
The most true blizzard moment I've heard of
So you need to invest in multiple accounts casually for this. Lmao.
BOT LIVES MATTER!
What this will inevitably cause is people that didn't kill bots to swear oath to only kill bots for as long as the servers are up because the internet hates when something happens that is deemed unfair.
I agree that a game isn't worth permanent death threat harassment, but at the same time you aren't alone, and the gaming community is pretty passionate.
If enough people get onboard this movement, it WILL eventually blow up and Blizzard will be FORCED to do something, especially if authorities start questioning/investigating the threats.
What a waste of time. People need to grow up and either get over it, play in different areas or go find a different game. You can always find something better.
@@VoidEmergentFox-j7r So your solution is to give up. Ahh lovley.
@@your-username-here2308 Try reading everything I said.
Ye just leave the problem thriving untill it'll squeeze you out. What a concept, I wonder why people didn't thinked about it themselve.@@VoidEmergentFox-j7r
Rewarding bad behaviour generates more bad behaviour, it's really simple. Those people are doing something wrong but Blizzard is endorsing it and generating it because they don't care at all and it makes money for them too. They just care about virtue signaling with their ''social contract''
Woke stuff is always for show and money.
How are they endorsing it?
@@BollibompaBy not actively enforcing their TOS when it comes to botting.
How does that tie in together? What is "woke" about botting?
@@VolkColopatrion just give up alrdy Stop wasting everyone's time .Plenty of tall trees out there
@@VolkColopatrion Simple they are putting time into virtue signaling to make themselves look like good guys while not improving the core functionality of the product they are selling. Woke isn't being inclusive, it's banking on stereotyping of the "weaker" groups for profit and using those same groups as a shield against critizism. Srry for my english not my native language .
Valve recently permanently banned over 60,000 accounts for botting, smurfing and others. Dota 2 is almost 12 years. Integrity Solid
Dota isnt sub based
Yet they killed Counter strike and then abandoned it. I've largely lost respect for Valve in recent years.
60k smurfs is nothing sadly.
yeah and valve cant do sh*t on CS2 cuz is just a big NFT game .... less people = more value for stickers/weapons
Valve is the odd one out in the gaming industry, Valve actually has passion for gaming and will very often do things that are financially disadvantaged but is a positive for the gaming experience.
Like the new Family share system, it actually makes them lose lots of money, but they just want people to enjoy games.
Thank god you covered this, my small ass made a video about it incase it would be taken down before it reached bigger audiences. Blizzard is also locking and muting threads on the forum talking about this btw.
Damn..
Blizzard is evil. Im glad i left this shithole companies games for 3 years now. I will never go back.
Classic. They don't want to lose botting revenue either. They're just leaving the death threats to the expendables
@@Whateverdude970 You made a statement with your wallet, i respect that
I hope you can find a better game to make content on.
Blizzard: You griefed a player?!?! BAN!
Also Blizzard: What are bots?
99.9% of death threats are bull crap but I wouldn’t risk that 0.1% over a fucking game
i never believe anyone who say they got death threats. too many people lying about it.
*100% of them are bs. I don't blame the dude though. While these death threats are bs, the negativity is real and can affect you a lot
I would go take it to a news company and see how they run with it.
If the media is good for anything its good at putting a magnifying glass on an issue that can get attention.
Death threats from a foreign gang over internet money could sell a lot of clicks.
@@isosev You think a News company is going to run a story about threats online.
OR gold farming bot people.
Most people in the news media don't know about games don't care about games do not cover games, because most people watching it also don't care.
Even if they 100% are just threats, for just a game I would stop if my family was receiving threats because of that.
Watch Blizzard sweep this under the rug and hope the internet just forgets about it in a month. And the worst part is that's what will happen.
Blizzard PR sweepers: so...fun news...come to find out Garash was actually Gay the whole time...surprise~~~
Blizzard wont even react in any way. They dont give a fuck, they only care about money.
The thing is people will forget about it in 2-3 days. Societies speed to amnesia with issues has gotten worse and worse and more rapid.
Nah. I blacklisted Blizzard and have been Blizzard free for 4 years. I was Blizzard free before, due to the Blizchung China thing, but played TBC classic for 4 months.
I once had a WOW account for 10+ years and bought every game. Even bought the shit D3.
Due to me not playing their games it has a knock on as my friends then don't play them.
If more people do this Blizzard has a choice. Change or go bankrupt.
Every time
reminds me of a situation repeated in britain, whereby a particular group threatens violence and rather than them being punished for their threats and rulebreaking in the first place, those targeted by said group have to remove themselves from society or face judicial punishment themselves
100 percent accurate.
I believe the UK govt is evil.
Put on the full armour of God my brothers in Christ. Deus Vult.
In the Netherlands too. But I will never bend the knee to threats as I carry both lethal and non-lethal options on me at all times.
yeah, with their powers combined Socialism and Intersectional Feminism are slowly dooming the western world.
I'm honestly pretty sure that someone on Blizz or even the company is getting some cut from all these botting. You can change the head, but the successor will also get the cut. It seems like the cut is pretty good too
They make money on subs, banning players who buy from bots and the accounts to bot literally costs them money. Theyve likely done the math and determined they make more money allowing botting than they would if they stopped it. I think longterm it wont help them, but short term its probably more profit.
@stephenmisener1659 weirdly corruption is more common than you think. This botting thing is a big business, and big business sends bribes
the cut is circa 3.000.000 usd per month
they are and do, there are videos about it
Bots are one of the biggest the reasons I refuse to play blizzard games anymore. They literally don't care. And if they don't care about their games, then neither do I. What a terrible company...
meanwhile piratesoftware says theres no alternative. they have to do it like this! lmao cant believe anyone watches/trusts him
and that is after they siphon your money out in every way imaginable
play Turtle WoW like a normal person dude
Imagine buying a $15+ mount to show off to bots. Or supporting a game that is just out there to support bots.
@@BrentMalicepirstesoftware is a joke. please dont take anything he says seriously.
It was so sad to watch the bots slowly ramp-up through the first six months of Classic as people realized Blizzard just didnt give a fuck
It was truly depressing
@@taylorcorbett8848 Think of it this way. We don't have to play WoW anymore and we got to experience classic again when it was full of dope human beings who looked out for eachother.
We got that for a 2nd time. We got really lucky. Now you vote with your wallet and give up with WoW. It is only a FOMO game with mounts now.
It's been this way since as far back as 2010 and im quite sure much longer than that. It did not matter at all what a player reported to the staff at blizzard. The staff would just say "innocent until proven guilty" and not lift a finger. And the players on forums would back blizzard up 100% of the time so now both groups of idiots being soft on cheaters defending them can sleep in the beds that they made.
"For the first 6 months of Classic"...... yeah, it's been WAY longer than that
I was playing SOD and am in a time zone when Americans are offline (Essentially I was playing WOW in the middle of the night) and I could blatantly see all the Asian Bots running around and it was the same ones every night even after reports they were always there.
"breaking TOS doesn't make you a criminal"
Death threats do. If you're already breaking TOS and giving people death threats because you're making money breaking TOS, the entity that made those TOS are responsible if the people getting the death threats end up getting killed.
Cheeseburgers make people fat is basically what you're saying. They have no responsibility to not grab the cheeseburger?
@@m.j.e.5245 False equivalence. Come on, man, get a grip.
In my opinion the TOS creators are only responsible for ensuring the TOS are followed. I don't think they should be responsible for any criminal actions that happen outside the game.
@@tannerarmstrong1496 A TOS creator has no responsibility for enforcing their TOS. This is explicitly stated in the TOS.
@@m.j.e.5245 No, not even close, you couldn't have missed harder.
At this point, if someone doxxes and threatens your life through Blizzard's game, and the company does NOTHING to curve this behavior, the company should be legally prosecuted and face some degree of consequences.
In the early 2000s, the idea of an MMORPG allowing me to play in a persistent world online was incredible.
After 2 decades of interacting with people on the internet, I'm grateful we still have single-player games
Real 😂
Warframe warframe
Realm reborn realmreborn
There is still hope
In first game moment you not new anymore and you do spoiler you are deleted from exsist like you nevere was in first place xd
In secund game new players are just gods and evryone pray to them
Playing the WRONG games
Truly a philosophical epiphany. I concur.
@@Darlf_Sevil I stopped playing Warframe a few years back because it started to take more of my time than I was willing to put in. But it wasn't a bad game, and I never really had a problem with the community.
I started playing FF14 in late Stromblood when I quit WoW. I played it up until a month after Dawntrail. It was fun for a while, but I didn't care for this new expansion at all. After the honeymoon was over and I was getting into the high end raiding scene, I realized the game was just as toxic and full of mods as WoW was. They just hide it.
This is why I watch Asmongold,
"Public executions aren't for the criminal, they're for the rest of the people that would be criminals"
Spot on brother!
Kinda like how nobody really intends to use nukes, they exist as a deterrent for war
but also, people willingly go to these events
they want retribution as well
@@snuffeldjuret nah, the majority of those are reactionary NPC's following mob rule.
@@snuffeldjuret oh c'mon. Asmon is a hilarious right-Winger.
@@wolfnoneofyourbusiness6220doesn't he say hes a left?
I used a fishing program once to level fishing on an alt and received a 6 month ban within 30 minutes of using it. These guys use bots to level 1-60 for years on end with no repercussions. Blizzard absolutely knows that these guys are botting and allow it, there has to be some sort of kickback or some reason they turn a blind eye.
Botting is an arms race. They know how to not get caught better than joe schmoe who probably used a way outdated fishing script.
@solenya4983, you can tell if the player is human by the mouse cursor. They can prevent botting if they want to.
@@hothead4240 no they can't
This company is not the same anymore. I’d go as far to say they completely lack any internal integrity checks. Look at Turtle WoW. The amount of people playing that is beyond ridiculous. This would never have been possible when Blizzard was still Blizzard.
i wonder if there's some kinda fee when selling gold, if there is then blizzard is earning money through the bots
My exact thoughts at the beginning of this video "people become terrorists because terrorism works." Stole the words out of my mouth.
It’s okay to be Anglo Saxon
Based
Based
Cringe
There is No such Thing as anglos saxon anymore tbh. Angles Mixed with West saxon, scandinavians, french and are simple Put germanic
It’s awesome 😎
Its why vanilla was so good early on, before gold whispers and bots became a rampant issue. The expansion did nothing to solve the problem. Blizzard did nothing, it was the first dent to their image.
It wasn't a faceroll game in the early days, and that was fantastic. The accommodations for casuals and normies really hamstrung and crippled the health of the game/player base
2004-2011 history. Best of times
I quit after 2nd expansion
I absolutely miss this at least 5 times a year, just reminiscing about MC, BWL, Naxx....GM grind. Man it was glorious
If the gold buyers would half, so would the bots. It’s crazy how many ppl are willing to buy ingame stuff 😢
1:03 “like a hotdog” sent me
Hotdogs are boneless just saying, its one of their most important qualities
@@joshizflylmao valid af ngl
@@joshizflylmao valid af ngl
I was thinking chili, like Cartman.
Mmmm delicious
No army ever went into battle thinking God had sided with the enemy.
Imagine Blizzard is behind the botting, just to push a wow token in the new anniversary servers...
Not the wildest thought I've ever heard
Oh yeah they probably are like that. I guarantee 2/3 of all retail is bots. That's why you shouldn't trust any numbers from blizzard other than how much they made selling mounts
Imagine thinking that if they wanted to they wouldnt just do it
Imagine Blizzard sending him the death threats.
thats literally what i expect the most out of every outcome
I see people acting like he was giving up for just receiving some random threats online. When they're posting his personal info alongside these threats, and he's messing with their income stream, they stop being random. There's nothing more likely to make someone act on a threat, then by making it a business expense.
A lot of these people don't seem to grasp there is a lot of organized crime involved in botting, they act like it is some 12 year old making stupid threats.
@@bran1886still cringe. I fronted an 8 ball once and didn't get my paycheck when i thought i would. Had to give him my phone and air pods, still got the crap beat out of me. Those are the kinds of threats you take seriously. Was humiliating.
Botters are either in a country where they only have Internet 7 hours a day, or some random scammer who doesn't even own a fiream.
Dude, none of these people are doing shit to someone in the United States lol or whatever first would country this guy is in
Both sides have a point. On one hand yeah, 99.9% of these people are harmless and most likely every single one of those threats are empty. And it's silly to bend over for them. On the other hand, there are people who are truly crazy, that one in a billion people who would actually take a flight across the planet to end someone over a video game. People have done it before. There is always a chance you end up attracting a stalker crazy enough to do it. Not risking it is fair, or at the very least understandable.
@@iamcozmix5084 What?
It's straight up Blizzards fault for not catching the bots
They implemented the bots themselves 🤣
@@freeman37It's not there catching them, They actively want more bots because that's more subscriptions
Legit
@freeman37 no but they don't stop them because that's an extra subscription that they can claim.
Instead of banning actively, they ban in waves every 6 months and milk subscription fees instead of losing money by paying a person to ban bots.
"People can't think about things, they can only feel about them" best quote I have heard, it is even defining everything that's popular socially wrong nowadays
There was a similar situation in Eve Online in the mid 2010s. Fortunately the person who was the target of this had an alt account in the discord and was live streaming what was being said by the head of the alliance. The head of the alliance was player banned for the threats by the devs which caused the alliance to collapse.
Blizz would never do anything that hurt their income. Botters is a larger revenue than real players.
@ there's 2 kinds of bitters, there's the casual players that are using them (many being whales and a big reason why bliz ignores it) to get up in games while not constantly being at keys to do the actual work. This is partly why I say that both whales and casual players aren't gamers but tourists.
The other are the professional bitters and a number of these especially for certain games aren't exactly professional but more forced into this by professional bitters. I found this out in Eve Echoes years ago which a certain Chinese alliance has been doing known as AOA, they are also doing the same thing in the PC version Eve Online but under a different alliance name. Now these groups will not only be bitting and forcing people to bot but specifically manipulating player markets to artificially skyrocket prices of certain valuable items while lowering the prices for items that are less valuable to make them worthless. It's to force whales and casual players to buy these items through RMT and devs let them get away with it because it also forces players to spend real money on gold and loot boxes instead of risking ban from RMT
Blizzard is all about money. Nothing else.
Botters are a big part of the Revenue for Blizzard.
@ I was playing MUDs for decades, specifically MajorMUD which in the late 90s had started becoming more popular with boards allowing people to run scripts. Due to that it also became popular to find creative ways to mess with those scripts for looting people who died (death caused all items carried to be dropped and a huge part of PvP). In Eve Echoes many will also hunt bitters especially professional botters for this purpose. Some would even make events for it, gamers in WOW should setup an unofficial bounty system for botters, hunting parties, ECT.. to go out and hunt em down, post every botter account in the game for public and make a competition of it. If bliz won't do anything then force em to rage quit. In fact in Eve Online and in Eve Echoes to a lesser extent, people will spend months camping someone or a whole alliance for months until they rage quit. This stems from MajorMUD where I've also been a part of this in camping players for weeks to kill and collect gear they have. All 3 are very ruthless and unforgiving games
You know blizzard could end this issue if they just idk did what they said they would.
Just region lock servers to prevent international interaction
@@m.j.e.5245 or have Gamemasters.. imagine if they had actual people on the servers, monitoring interactions and actively banning bots. imagine, like in the old days.
Report Blizzard to BBB (Better Business Bureau) if you want results. RUclips hiding my comment because they obviously need some BBB loving as well.
The fact that some chatters can't comprehend that you can understand something without justifying or endorsing it is so baffling to me.
Surface level one dimensional unnuanced thinkers. Ignorant people project their ignorance on others. They are incapable of understanding that reality doesn't operate based on how they think it SHOULD. For example, this can dislike something like gravity but can never acknowledge it's not going anywhere and will still be here after they are dead, so they seethe and winge about it all day in futility. They are sheltered, inexperienced, niave, and unaware. It hasn't happened to them. They haven't seen it. It doesn't exist, that is, unless it reinforces their narrow worldview, which consoles their fragile ego.
Asmons take here is idiotic. He is trying to hide behind “im just explaining it” while denigrating those who disagree with his presumptions. Most people don’t agree that death threats are the obvious answer to competition in the business world.
The fact that you all believe some guy about getting death threats despite no proof is baffling.
@@refugeehugsforfree4151 We don't need evidence off-the-bat when we know already how common it is for people to send Death Threats online. Innocent until proven guilty. Benefit of the doubt. You have no reason to not believe them besides trying to be different and being on the other side.
@@refugeehugsforfree4151 The fact that you don't is terrifying.
People don't understand the difference between private death threats made by people who are directly impacted financially by what he's doing, and random internet kids publicly raging.
Rationalizing and justifying are very different.
I can rationalize any number of crimes. That doesn’t justify them.
You'd be surprised at how many people have trouble differentiating the two.
@@Desmond-DarkI was about to say this, having a reason for something doesn't mean it's suddenly okay, my own dad gets this wrong every day, it pisses me off to no end and demonstrates a gigantic lack of intelligence and maturity
So? Okay you said something I bet most people agree with but what does it relate to in the video?
The sky is blue
@@niroritThe video literally talks about that.
@@nirorit it's the basis of the video. Put some effort into your trolling in the future
Something my Grandpa always said: "You need to understand, in order to prevent." And its scary how so many people cant wrap their head around that.
Ur grandpa be wise👍
And he is absolutely right, that's why I like to shut my mouth and let the experts talk, because what do I know? Not a whole lot in reality, that goes for most of us
MOST can't, despite this being glaringly obvious
Lol. Emeny of my anemone is my friend
You know what your Grandpa should have said: "Take Internet with a grain of salt" and it's scary how so many people can't wrap their head around that.
Blizzard being the King of L's is nothing new anymore.
Nah, everyone is just proving their point that they are the most terrible gaming company or just company in general. But as long as people still use or consume this thing, nothing will ever happen.
3:10 but that is an attack on freedom though? If people cannot play a certain way in an online video game, entirely within the rules, without their livelihood actually being threatened. That is 100% an attack on freedom, and thus any counter measure counts as defending freedom.
The freedom to have bots?
South Park's episode 200 touched on this well and it was removed for explaining that terrorism works.
Yeah I thought it was bullshit until the Taliban won.
Friendly reminder: If someone claims to be from Taiwan but is involved in illegal activities like gold farming or botting, there's a high chance they are actually serving time in a Chinese prison, working towards sentence reduction by meeting certain quotas.
Friendly reminder: If someone claims to be getting death threats, he's lying.
In general China is very restricted so they always use VPN to Taiwan to gain outside access.
What? People get death threats all the time. It's super common.
@@np153Garlix He said "detailed", he meant they have his personal data.
@@refugeehugsforfree4151Not really
Blizzard is not getting 1 cent of my money anymore. Maybe they live off bot users alone.
LOL
mmo devs being in cahoots with farming bot "companies" and having extra side money through their proceedings is something I've seen before
Worse is the Token allowed bots to become even more profitable because now botters do not have to pay for a monthly sub, Bots just need to produce more Gold then the monthly gold price and they are profitable.
Between bots and whales alone even if the vast majority of us did quit they'd still be able to keep the game up and turn a decent profit.
I heard the same thing from Blizz fans over and over and over and over again for like 10 years now, and if you people really stopped giving them money, they would have stopped doing the shitty things they were doing long ago. So obviously it's not true. We all know you'll cave and willingly enter your credit card information the minute Blizzard releases something that pique your interest. The state of the industry long proven that gamers are largely spineless loudmouths.
We have bots in absolutely every game, and it's fair to say that companies aren't doing enough to improve things. But claiming that if a RUclipsr gets death threats from the Russian mafia, it's because of the big bad Blizzard is going too far. The world is in bad shape, but it's not solely the fault of big corporations.
Yes, it's not solely on Blizzard, it is also on the person and group of people doing it.
However when you have a game, a market, something as big as WoW? Blizzard has all the power. They are putting greed over not only their players but morality.
WoW has been a shell of a game for a long time, or classic servers and SoD wouldn't be a thing, they even fucked up both of those for greed.
Blizzard doesn't have sole responsibility, but they have the most power and therefor the main part of it because they can easily fix it.
I played D4 expansion for social reasons. I had buddies... addicted to D4 for reasons I cannot comprehend. Anyway, not any longer. That expansion was just too corporate for me, bro. They advertise Mephisto walks the Earth... and then end the expansion with the same cutscene? The entire story was about asking that little girl how she feels over and over. And it couldn't be more painfully obvious that the story was intentionally made filler, because their analysts predicted everyone would come back for the actual plot when they actually face off against Mephisto. Blizz, no I'm not. You've treated me incorrectly for the last time.
If they released everything in the expansion for free and there had been an expansion with Mephisto, I'd maybe even start to have trust in them again like in the 2000s. Instead, they transparently designed the story and its delivery in corporate meetings about how to extract as much money as possible. I'm not playing that game anymore.
welcome to path of exile 2 :)
Took you long enough to understand them. Welcome to the light brother. I didn’t quit star craft and WoW. I quit blizzard and their antagonistic practices and dark patterns. Their devs spit on me so I left.
2:29 "They don't want to die on the hill of a video game." Well said. Even if 99% of these threats are bluster, there is enough money in gold selling to make the possibility of an actual threat a reality.
But there really isn't. There are no bot farms in America because there just isn't enough money to make it worth doing here. You think a hitman operating in Russia might have a bit of a different rate for a contract in America? They are botting because they are poor, they cannot get a real assassin.
Asmond teaching a whole generation how to think critically. Well done.
If that was a case he's question this kid pretending he got death threats.
Asmond is not some critical thinker.
He's just a Farmer.
@@refugeehugsforfree4151 Learn something called "Innocent until proven guilty". Why shouldn't we believe he had death threats? Few people would leave their entire channel, all that they own, unless they had good reason. This isn't a lie. He's obviously scared for his family and his life.
@@DracoPlaysYT That is not how claiming stuff works.
Innocent until proven guilty is for the people HE ACCUSES of threatening him, not him claiming they did.
Kid, you can't go up to a court, claim someone attacked you without proof and the Judge believes you.
You're quite literally using that the opposite way lol.
You can't claim shit without evidence in court. Period. This is why there's a whole thing called Discovery.
So funny how badly you failed at understanding critical thinking skills.
Having "hot takes" =/= critical thinking.
@@refugeehugsforfree4151 I hate the term but it's called "victim blaming". And this isn't a court case, this is the internet. It's a morality thing here. You automatically don't believe the guy, who's literally ending his channel over "nothing". It just seems really horrible of you to side with people who, from what we know, send death threats. (Unless you're a neutral party or something)
If blizzard eliminated gold transfers between characters, there would be less botting. They’d have to figure out ways to do it on the auction house.
people who havnt expierenced stalking or death threats don't understand how people effected by this feel. I was talking to a girl who had a stalker and one day i was out at lunch with her and the stalker had followed her there. He ended up causing this huge scene and everything after we got him to leave us alone. I went home and he when i got there he was waiting outside my lawn its fucking creepy and total invasion of your personal space.
I didn't even get death threats or ppl posting my address saying they will feed my fingers to my family i can only imagine what he is going through
My problem with death threats and people caving into them is that it doesnt solve the problem. In a matter of fact, it only makes everything worse. Its nice short term, you give up something here and there because someone said something nasty and "scary", but it only incentivizes more to happen. Terrorism only works because people allow it to work.
He wouldn’t know where you live if your whole life wasn’t online.
Why do you live in places where you can be stalked? Where I live if a dude showed up on my lawn he wouldn't exist anymore and there would be no consequences.
Live in a place where you are allowed to defend yourself, learn to defend yourself and you won't be so afraid of other people anymore.
@@Shiestey lmao tell us your 14 with no life experience, without telling us your 14 with no life experience
@@nameredacted7622bro ngl this is a dumb question. You can be staked anywhere get a brain my guy 😂😂
This is why i don't play anymore Blizzard games, So anyone wants to play Marvel Rivals.
the pressence of bots was what drove me away from Diablo 2. But what drove me away from Blizzard was releasing starcraft 2 in 3 pieces and diablo 3 being bad.
my nam jeff the land shark
Helll yeah marvel rivals is amazing I dont think I'll ever go back to overwatch
Rivals rules
Need a stack!?
I work 8-4 every week day. The second a game stresses me out I'm moving on the next one
You cant explain that to long term WoW players. It's not a game to them, it's a second job. They take everything that happens in game personally and it effects them. This entire ordeal is dramatic sensationalism by people who can't seem to pull themselves away from a video game.
@@LairdPrydaewtf are you yammering about
@@LairdPrydae being a part of the league of legends scene for so many years, its the same thing. so many players have dedicated huge portions of their lives to these games and the things that happen in these games deeply affect their lives in ways people who arent a part of it, could hardly ever understand.
@@primary2630above your paygrade Timmy, move on
@@primary2630if you put more than a hundred hours into a game and character some people can't give him too much of a investment is there
The spawn of the WoW Token was the 100% confirmation that Blizzard does not nor will they ever care.
This is actually a Gigchad5Head move. Now he becomes a Martyr, and people will double their efforts to hunt down bots
Pedro
@@armandoorrep??
@@dmac3183 pedro
So you are expecting him to die?
@@AppleInk he will never be forgotten... rip.
"I will NOT be seeing you in the next one." 5:41
Blizzard. Ball is in your court.
It always was, they just don't care.
Blizzard will ignore it like always.
Well until the suckers stop shoveling them money they don't care. Make a forum post and quit.
They'll do a ban wave, claim the devs are listening and that theyfinally truly understand. Then they'll quietly stop doing anything about it until the next controversy.
They don't have any balls
Expecting blizzard to do anything is like asking a rock to move.
The moment my store & the cops Stopped giving a fuck about all the robberies that are happening daily I stopped chasing people trying to steal shit.
lol you actually chased people? Hope you get better pay but we kno u won’t
@@phoraridmv if it's his store he paid for it all anyways?
@ I was wondering if he owned it or just worked couldn’t tell. As an owner I’m with him as an employee I use to work retail never cared to stop a thief least not in my area can be a lil risky tbh
As a part timer Walmart make billions a year I ain't chasing shit
@@ratboyiscool nowhere does OP say it's their store, and ANY employee of ANY store is told to let thieves and or shoplifters go, SPECIFICALLY so you don't get hurt. Because if you do get hurt trying to stop a robery, the store isn't responsible for it.
I always blame Blizzard. People care about it because they're putting their time and life into the game and they want a fair game with no one cheating in it and it gets personally upsetting to them when their fun is ruined by people who just want to exploit and make money. And their threats won. Yes You're explaining evil. That upsets people lol
like, seriously, give me a self found server, no ah and no gifting, and I'm there
the botting on the new realms is insane. everyone is packed with mage and hunter bots. Honestly just find a good pserver its a way better experince over all.
Or destroy the bots (I play on HC) Pull mobs on them let the mobs do the trick, lose aggro for yourself (FD) Bubble, whatever as long as the bot took aggro it's sqrewed.
That people are still supporting blizzard at all is just disgusting
I in some way agree, but in my opinion, people that support the bots are worse.
@@michaelnielsen7050 Yeah in this regard the Bot situation is worse, but ever since all that shit about Blizzard came out I've been 100% against them, and I'm just shocked that people still support them/buy their products/Play their games after everything that came out against them. But yeah, in this context you are correct
Relax it's a literal videogame you play for fun what are you talking about 😂
Bait so bad I couldn't even care to form a response, bruh please rewrite.@@tranquilitydove1155
I remember about 10 years ago farming whelpling pets and leather in Azshara in the middle of the night, and out of the blue somebody asked me "This may sound strange, but what server are we on?" I wish I had thought more quickly and thanked them for keeping up the good fight.
What does this even mean..?
@@phoraridmv Bot check.
@@phoraridmv It was a Blizzard employee checking to see if I was a bot.
@ ohh okay!! That’s good
@@soklot thanks I’m an outsider
Gold sellers is one of the factors why I always choose Self-found for all of my hardcore toons.
you realize you are on the same server as everyone else? if you don't want to interface with gold buyers you don't have to. Ticking that arbitrary checkbox for that little buff does nothing, RMT is completely optional if you don't like it, don't do it.
yeah
a shame though that we dont get a sf server, hc or non hc.
Classic should honestly be free at this point. Especially era.
When you pay a sub you expect:
- New content continued being made.
- Server maintenance and management.
- GM Customer moderation service/support.
- The servers remaining online.
Aside from keeping the servers online Blizzard has done minimal effort when it comes to classic, especially when it comes to hiring new gms to combat stuff like bots.
Private servers are literally better maintained and moderated atm. Atleast with those you know it is a Wild West with a single sheriff keeping the law, while Classic is the Media version of New York telling you it is a safe city to live in but in truth it is almost complete lawlessness in certain areas.
Yup, imagine if they had actual real people, gamemasters working again. like in the good old days.
They made SoD which is basically Classic with new content. Hardcore servers also were pretty fun. I mean Classic is doing better than retail at this point.
I stoped playing wow because of bots. But do not forget the community or WOW FORUMs part in this. I was active on forums and i tried to make usefull topics about real problems like bots and simular stuff. But what was the common answer from ppl on forums? EVERYTHING is FINE, gold trade is good, boosting is good ETC.. There are some fckin blizzard funboys on the forums 0/24 who try to discredit every topic, and every ppl who have some problems with the game or blizzards mentality. These are self-proclaimed lawyers or who knows what, but I think they are also part of the problem, because they make forum communication impossible.
Are you sure those people aren't the gold sellers/botters?
@@snagla3095 Maybe, but don't underestimate human stupidity. Maybe they just dont want to accept the fact that the game and blizzard now sucks and the 20 years investment slowly becoming useless. But if the forum would criticize Blizzard unanimously then it might be better in the end xD
02:53 "I mean at the end of the day, let's keep in mind, like none of this really matters, right. It's just a video game, nobody cares about this. It doesn't make any difference, you're not changing anybody's Life, it's not like you're fighting for Freedom."
Hahaha no way i read the comment as soon as he started saying it
The fact someone is afraid of botters death threats is kinda funny. These dudes live in a country so bad off that wow and runescape gold is worth more than their dollar. If you that poor you can barely afford to stop to talk ish let alone leave the country to do anything to anyone.
@@Audio041194Depends on how much damage you do. These are not only poor teenagers without pocket money, these are organized groups
@eddiewouldgo3719 Sure but the point is, if their economy is so bad that video game currency is worth more they don't have the funds to make good on these threats. I have given my address to these folks and said pull up I have firearms and military training. Nothing ever happened because these guys don't have the bread to make anything happen. Lastly bro could have sent them $1000 and they would gladly take in return for leaving him alone. The great thing about living in a first world country is our money is worth lots there so we can spend little and it go a long way. It isnt about if the groups are willing it is about capabilities.
@@Audio041194facts.. they are empty threats with nothing to back them up.
Wow. It's heartbreaking that the days of rock n roll racing - era blizzard will never return. RIP good Blizzard games...
People who said they are from taiwan 95% of the time are chinese people who is from china
just to let people know
thats not some sort of clever denial of Taiwanese sovereignty is it? lol
Most bots are from 3rd world country like south east asia countries
@@Vihara2 No, it's probably because they'll be dismissed as CCP bots or otherwise because they're mainland Chinese. Not sure why being Taiwanese would make whatever they say sound legit, but they still do it anyways.
You mean west Taiwan?
@@Vihara2, for some reason they think if they tell westerners they are Taiwanese we will be okay with them botting.
Honey, wake up. Blizzard is screwing up (again)
wtf the people threatening him need to go to jail. this is not even about the botting anymore. put them in jail.
They don't live in countries that believe in the rule of law. Good luck
Not that simple, they're in Russia and Taiwan they're not beholden to US law
Also 9:16
they can't afford the plane ticket to come do anything to anyone. They are all talk.
@@waingrobro lol you dont need to go over there to get something done, what in the world.
1/2 the people that are talking about why is this guy bugging out are like fish in a small pond thinking it is a ocean and they know everything in the world when they live in a small pond and are really clueless
*tries ff14*
*Keeps giving Blizzard attention and money despite the abuse*
This kinda video isn't the type of attention blizzard want. It's bad rep.
@ what has blizzard done for good rep?
When blizzard added the WoW token to classic that was my rubicon. Instead of maintaining the integrity of the game and fixing the gold RMT epidemic, they jumped in themselves to cash in. NEVER will I play another blizzard game.
4:14 making threats against someone’s life does though
Gamers let this happen, one day we will take our power back by NOT BUYING THE CORPORATE TRASH. Let these corporations go completely broke, then when they have no option, they will crawl back to us, their customers. Seriously people, STOP BUYING. That is our power over them, and unless WE ALL exercise it, things wont change. It has worked with Woke, it can work for the rest of the issues plaguing gaming like rampant botting.
Why not just play ff14, gw2, etc?
@@elgatochurro because ff is cringey af to alot of people… bunny boys come on😆 ill play the single player games until god willing a new classic wow type game shatters the industry
That’s not what happens to broke companies. They get sold or shut down before the realization kicks in
@@cameronlogan3377 yeah cringey not like our little fox people or pink haired gnomes, come on now, hard trues cut both ways.
2:00 kinda ridiculous he got scared of some random death threats but the threat of getting doxxed and having the pigs show up and possibly killing you is definitely not worth the risk.
Something I don’t understand about dth threats online. If someone puts that in writing on any social media site, wouldn’t they be immediately banned forever?
Just make another account, you'd be surprised how easy it is, it's actually pretty easy to create thousands of social media in seconds using bots and stuff, so banning doesn't do anything
@ right, throwaway accounts, should have figured that
Yep. It's a problem with no good solution.
One way to "solve" the problem is connecting people's account to a verified identity system, like a government OAuth service that connects your online account to you specifically.
That would solve the botting problem. But it introduces a whole new set of problems by making it potentially very rewarding to breach that government OAuth system and get everyone's personal data, and that's likely worse than the original problem such a system is designed to solve.
Friendly reminder to make sure you don't have an active Blizzard subscription.
I've seen channels for Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm close down or become inactive, it's sad. Blizzard's fall is probably the most tragic one in the whole industry.
But deserved for the behind the scenes stuff
How can Blizzard stop this? I always hear this but no-one ever explains how in realistic steps this could be done.
It’s actually the buyer’s fault. If no one bought their gold, bots wouldn’t exist. People who pay in video games just to be better than others have and always will be the problem
Let's be real, it's a circle of blame - from the buyers, to the devs to people who exploit their notoriety to promote all the 3rd party lootbox sites etc... it's basically an orgy of degeneracy that has been manifesting for ages through normalization of previous taboos in gamba and now it's basically just the wild west again with crypto and these types of predatory scam sites that prop up this whole bot WoW economy. I would say Blizzard are just *more to blame in that circle really, as they have ultimate control of their products to actually innovate properly and actually protect their users by actively working on a strong solution to combat the problem, which no one else in this circle has control over.
When it comes to being the best people are willing to cheat. People turn a blind eye to it or would gaslight those who sounded the alarm. Even vr games people actively pay for any sort of leg up.
More than one party can be at fault. There's not always a "good guy"
More complex than that. By being so lax for so long, it's stopped being about paying 'to be better than others' and more about staying on the curve because the practice of buying gold has become so standardized and widespread and the playerbase has adapted to it so readily that unless you either buy the gold or play the game like a full time job you WILL be left behind and shut out. Huge part of why the game lost its charm.
And yet I’m still better than them.
Blizzard has become such a disgrace. What a bunch of morons to ruin such an epic company.
I wouldn't say anything is epic anymore about them
@ that’s why I said they ruined it…
Happened to volition and now bioware too. For someone like me where the art I love is part of my identity it's absolutely heartbreaking to watch.
Theres a lot of money in that shit
it amazes me how unhinged and lacking of any basic empathy some of the chatters are... how can you fkin laugh at someone being scared after getting countless of dth threats???
"Like a hotdog?" No. More like a chicken wing.
Imagine making bot-killer bots. Would be pure fun
Again, the problem is, that the people buying it dont get punished.. Its so ridicolous, that Blizz cant figure out, that someone has 100 gold on day 1 and MIRACULOUSLY 1100 Gold on day 2 is buying gold.
Runescape has only JUST started banning buyers , but it has come with its own issues (false bans simply for trading legitimately with someone who is a gold seller)
@nameunavailable-gp3ot Runescape started banning gold buyers back in 2007 I think. When they lost the court case against allowing gambling and RMT and if they did not take action against it, they would be heavily fined and eventually government would take over the whole company. Thats when runescape started to actually take action against RMT and they actually shut down some of the largest gold selling sites.
@nameunavailable-gp3ot Runescape started banning gold buyers back in 2007 I think. When they lost the court case against allowing gambling and RMT and if they did not take action against it, they would be heavily fined and eventually government would take over the whole company. Thats when runescape started to actually take action against RMT and they actually shut down some of the largest gold selling sites.
similar shit happened to me back in 2017 during the Lucid Nightmare secret hunt. I was part of the secret finding discord and was helping figure things out, and by sheer luck I managed to solve the Ulduar puzzle with the lights. the moment I posted it in the discord I was FLOODED with messages saying I was not supposed to reveal it and they would kill me if I did, or wanted to pay hush money for me to not post it. I was an awful experience that basically made me quit the game at the time, only coming back to it recently with TWW. and I promised myself to never get involved with the community again like that and just play the game normally.
I've experienced similar stuff before and yea it's not a fun experience, sorry that you had to interact with the incels
of course. and then everyone stood up and clapped! :)
Fighting monsters doesn’t end them, sometimes it makes them grow stronger. Starving them always works.
6:08 Green Goblin from Spider-Man 2002 explained in a nutshell.
That loser that said "breaking the ToS doesn't make someone a criminal," no. You're right. Harassing someone and sending them credible death threats does make them criminals though.
yeah gl trying to charge them in asia. if ur a "content-creator" that ruins others "job" or make content from other people & cant deal with death threats or harassment then idk u might be in the wrong space. if a police officer is scared for his life every second he has to talk to someone, he might be in the wrong job too. just look how many threats asmon or even non drama farming content creators get. its very common these days.
@@Vss077 What's any of this got to do with the point I was making?
Also i very much doubt that these gold selling botters are paying all if any taxes on their profits. Governments would be very interested in getting their tax dollars from these botters.
@@JayneAFK the overall point he made that made ur initial response. dont fuck with someone if u cant defend yourself. making them "criminals" doesnt mean anything. thats considered free speech.
Final video goes viral. "Hi guys. I'm back!"
I wouldn't doubt it - and to be real here, Hardcore WoW shouldn't have been entertained for Blizzard to make it an official thing.
I don't see the fun of carefully leveling to 15, and your computer just screws you over to just try to get back on to discover you have to level up again, all because at the moment you were farming beasts for exp in the open.
@@RandoCDN87 that doesn't happen that often
what they should do though is run a simple script that makes character disengage when disconnect is detected
dota 2 already have this, and it is brilliant
it is never beneficial to intentionally disconnect to activate it, but if you disconnect your odds are now much better at not being screwed over
Another minor thing regarding Blizzard I just want to share: I’m a StarCraft player, I played co-op more often but love to relive the story after a while. In the whole 2024 I haven’t been able to play the campaign, any campaign… Wings of Liberty, Heart of the Swarm or Legacy of the Void, none… why? Once you just start a new campaign you play the first mission and after beating it you are back in the introductory video… and you are in a never ending loop. Auto saves don’t work. You can not load a saved file because they don’t appear in the selection… is like it’s empty an new. But they are there in your PC local files intact.
So I reported it 3 times in the support system they have… they only send you to the forums, a topic is there with the issue. Also, more people are in the same situation, and nothing happens. A whole year you can’t play a game you own, because some new update f***d up the rest.
Death threats are the hard line. get um out of here!
like a hotdog?! 🤣
Giving into the threats only show them they hold the power.
whats more important a game or the lives of you and your family?
easy for you to say
@@corberus3119 0 risk involved with someone who can't even afford bread. No one's killing anyone over them not selling their gold for 20 bucks.
@@corberus3119 Do you think that some 12 year old in CoD hasn't threatened your family at least once? Yet here you are, still making comments on the internet.
honestly gold buyers brought it on themselves , they are not different from the bot operators...
8:03 "It's not about having empathy, it's about understanding the logical conclusion" - Asmongold.
To take the viewpoint of someone else is empathy and I'm glad to see you're capable of it!
Blizzard has made a game where some players get a reward if they are willing to take a risk, financial gain is an incredibly strong motivator. They could have solved this issue long ago by themselves allowing and/or adding the features that third parties are selling but have instead decided to support the status quo. Players get understandably upset by "pay to win" and I'm not advocating they only add that and then think they're genius developers, all third party features have to be considered. They did this with the GUI and everyone is happy about that, lots of "quality of life" improvements came from third parties working essentially for free. They also had a great opportunity of being the first studio to develop a DOTA style game but failed to notice it's popularity in Warcraft 3.
The real world is not as civilized as people pretend it to be 6:54
The people making the death threats can’t afford to come get him they are playing a game in a sweat shop for blizzard gold. 😂😂😂
they can for sure afford it. they are not playing the game are u dumb? they are bot farms with hundreds of bots automatically farming the game. they just make sure everything is working. he fucked with their money and that is not a good idea.
🤡
@@rahjo7224 They're in Russia and Taiwan. Unless he lives there, that's quite the trip for revenge
@@rahjo7224 Lol they can't afford it dude. Go tell your mom to make you some chicken nuggies and put on paw patrol and let the adults talk.
@@m.j.e.5245 Do you think these bots are teenagers with one single bot alone? Some of these bot farms make millions upon millions. They're not made by "gamers" or people that give a fuck about the game, it's just one of the many money printing machines for pretty huge organizations.
The funny part is that blizzard could inventory their code and find all the bots in 3 milliseconds, then ban violators in 5 more seconds and be done with it. They must want the bots if they're there at all.
More like world of botcraft
Oohh! Got um!
Nice
Literally the one reason I don't play on Blizzard servers anymore. At least private servers police themselves
Niceee