Man, I miss UMK3 on mobile...yeah, the 3D graphics might have looked bad and the controls sucked but let's not forget that in the early 2010s of the mobile market, games like that were actually massive to have on the go on your phone!
Not really lost media, moreso lost trivia, but everyone remembers NRS's first ever actual DLC character Skarlet, but not a lot of people remember that they accidentally made Skarlet free when she launched lol.
in the movie The Pacifier (2005) in the arcade scene there was an arcade version of mk trilogy in a mk2 cabinet but literally no one ever talked about it
I remember when MKX was announced, I went down to GameStop and preordered for PS3. When the delay announcement came, that day on my lunch break I went in and canceled my preorder. Sadly I knew what was coming 😕 Once again another great video my friend!
I remember pre ordering it also. Was upset cause I didn't own a PS4. So I sold my PS3 and majority of the games I got a PS4 and had enough to pre order the game., properly.
There was also an unreleased character for MK4 named Belokk, a red demon who was featured in a game magazine with just a single screenshot of him. There is also an incredible amount of unfinished quests, references, and unusable items in MK Deception Konquest.
As I recall reading way back when, Belokk was created by Eurocom without Midway's knowledge or consent, and removed once Midway found out about him. But it could also just as easily been a hoax, harkening back to the many made-up characters/runours that have existed throughout early MK history to get people talking.
I think MK11's Johnny Cage in Spanish having full voice clips unused also count. For context, for MKX, Johnny had a different VA and when it came to MK11, the VA got replaced for mentioning that he would be Johnny again on a fan convention. Warner took this as a leak and they fully replaced him with a different voice actor at the very last minute (like 3 months before the game's release). It appears that the previous VA recorded all his clips before being replaced, as in the native version of the Switch version with no updates has his battle dialogue and fatalities with the old VA's voice, as well as the full final game leaving one story scene with the old VA by accident getting replaced in an update. Nobody has uploaded a video with the in-game clips outside of the story mode cutscene.
It's hilarious that Daniel Southworth (the voice actor for Devil May Cry's Vergil) can accidentally reveal that Devil May Cry V was currently in production like four or five years before the game released, but Mario Castañeda just says "oh yeah I'm playing Johnny again" really late in MK11's development and he gets kicked out.
Found this channel very recently. As a casual MK fan, it's really cool seeing this kind of content, especially the competitive stuff. Happy to be here!
Excellent video! There's actually a little more MK lost media, such as Mortal Kombat Nitro Edition, an updated port for the SNES that was being worked on. There's also the original version of Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection that was meant to completely remake MK1, MK2, and UMK3. Lest we forgot a deleted scene from MK Annihilation where Quan Chi makes an appearance! I think there's plenty of material for a follow-up!
I always think of Jim Carrey's spiel in the movie Cable Guy, talking about the wonders of the internet-to-be including "playing Mortal Kombat with your friend in Vietnam". Perhaps that was the vision for the Wavenet. I always enjoy these videos! Thanks for making them!
while everyone on twitter asking Ed Boon when MK12 coming out they should be asking him about the WaveNet UMK3 Arcade. Since it is lost media and Ed Boon seems to be very engaging with the community im sure he'll have some sort of answer or clarity about it.
I know right? Even people who actually interview the guy. They all seem to ask the same boring questions every single time. Questions that have been answered over and over again in podcasts and stuff like that. This is what they should be asking, not the same rehashed "mk origins" questions... Not to mention "when's mk12?" dumb stuff. We will all see mk12 when then time comes. I see no point on knowing anything now. Game releases used to come with more magic and mistery, anticipation back then. Now everything "leaks" and then some hacker idiot shows even future plans for the game before most people get to actually play the game. It's fucking sad
Great video. I am surprised no mention of MK Annihilation's original ending. Shinnok had been banished to the Netherrealm and meets Quan Chi (played by a local Thai man who didn't speak any English) who said "everything is according to plan" and they walk off, setting up the unmade 3rd film. Quan Chi is even in some promotional material and newly discovered BTS make up shots came up by the film's head of make up but the scene has NEVER been to released.
I think it was worth mentioning that MKX on Xbox 360 and PS3 were also canceled because the developers of the PC version were responsible for them, and as many remember at the start, it was terrible, almost unplayable, which is why Kombat Pack 2 was later was even canceled for a while, until a Qloc company was found for the port MKXL on PC
I also had no idea that something like MK3 Wavenet edition was planned before this video, that's news to me as well. Thanks a ton for sharing that info dude, and once again fantastic video.
Another piece of MK lost media is Mortal Kombat Ultra Girls. A fully completed MK animated show that was set to play on Cartoon Network and HBO Max that was in the vein of DC Superhero Girls that's never seen the light of day beyond a leaked screenshot or two.
I thought of Wavenet as soon as I saw the topic of this video, it's basically the holy grail of Mortal Kombat lost media. I still hope that someday it will surface and it can be dumped to finally see what it was like (Even if the online obviously won't work anymore)
That's the reason it would be pointless to dump the ROMs. Since the servers are dead, Wavenet features would not be on the game. It would play as regular 1.2 revision of UMK3. Some people who actually played it in Chicago back then told me.
@@ninjagrinder Private servers/server emulation has been done for other network-enabled arcade games before, like the modern BEMANI rhythm game series (Dance Dance Revolution, Beatmania, etc) where instead of connecting to the official "Eamusement" server people have just straight up made their own to get past that requirement.
As much as I want Wavenet to surface someday, I still want to see that MK vs. SF that Midway did a mockup of back during Deception. Someday MK and SF will clash for real.
Eh, considering how much concessions they had to make with DC/MK, I'm not sure it would happen with one of Capcom's main IPs. Darkstalkers would be absolute prime-material for a Mortal Kombat crossover though.
@@TheXell Problem with that there hasn't been a Darkstalkers game in over two decades. As a matter of fact, other than DS being way too niche, Capcom would probably won't wanna release a new DS game because of the violence and mature nature of it nowadays.
I remember seeing Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Liu Kang listed in a magazine for upcoming games announced but only once, I was hoping to hear about it here.
My own personal MK lost media white whale is Jonathan Sloate's soundtrack sampler for the MK Conquest TV show. I have some blurry screenshots from an Ebay auction as proof of its existence, and that's about it. :/
Not sure if this really counts, but considering the subject of lost media, what about "Mortal Kombat Devastation", the supposed third live action film, but due to MK Annihilation bombing at the box office, was completely shelved? Other than a few rumors of Johnny Cage possibly returning, and being mentioned on an old Midway website for MK Deception (featuring the render of Baraka inside the Slaughterhouse stage), really curious what went about with that one.
Interestingly, the failed 360/PS3 ports of MKX did still lead to the official fight pads they released for the game to be compatible with both console generations.
I still remembered I preordered MKX for PS3 since hadn’t had a PS4 during that year but since the ports were cancelled and yeah never got a refund by that……
The E3 demos of the 3D games are a dream of mine to have access to. All three seem like they were MUCH different from the finish products which make it so much more interesting to play
The differences between the final games and the E3 games are not that major, in Deadly Alliance it's most apparent because a lot was unfinished in the original demo from models to animations to stages to even sound, Mavado had a different model and Hsu Hao was probably still called Kublai Khan with a different model as well, but Deception and Armageddon were much closer to the final revisions, the only noteworthy thing about Armageddon's demo is that it MIGHT'VE still had beta weapons for Taven intact Konquest mode, as they were almost completely deleted in release.
I remember a few years ago I saw a video about some lost things in deception. One of the things that creeped me out the most was something called The Lobster. Sounds stupid I know but something about it just sent a chill down my spine. The Lobster was not a lobster, believe it or not. It was supposed to be in the konquest if I remember correctly. It was so wacky. If only I could find that video again.
Wavenet is a trailblazer in the arcade community, if it didn't use a T1 line and used something cheaper, I bet it would have been more widespread. Just being able to play a fighting game online in 1995 is way ahead of the curve.
I actually pre ordered MKX for the 360, about a month later i got a text from my bro about it being cancelled. Never did get my $5 back, and I'm glad I didn't pay into it any further bc I lost the receipt lmao
RIP the ps3 version of MKX. I remember being annoyed because I had pre-ordered MKX and Dying Light for ps3 and both of their ports got canceled in the same year
The story of MKX's cancelled PS3 & Xbox 360 ports worries me as I feel like SF6's PS4 port is gonna get cancelled, there are 2 months left & we still haven't seen anything of it yet, also you forgot to talk about MK Fire & Ice, the cancelled Shaolin Monks sequel, that had Scorpion & Sub-Zero as the game's protagonists!
I hope they're creative enough to set it in the past during the first Kung Lao's tournament. I doubt it'll happen though, it'll just be MK 1-3 all over again.
There IS the rumor that MK: Annihilation was supposed to have a post credits scene where Quan Chi shows up to tease the next movie based on MK4. Makes some sense since Shao Kahn's dad was credited as Shinnok but I haven't been able to see any footage that didn't come from Mythologies or Conquest.
It's not just a rumour, the scene was actually filmed. IIRC the actor for Quan Chi was from Thailand, and didn't understand a word of English, so he just stands there menacingly as Shinnok monologues. You can find pictures of the scene online.
I knew about MKX coming to the PS3 and was super excited because a PS3 was the only thing I had, then I was super disappointed when the PS3 port was cancelled
That reminds me, I remember years ago hearing about "Mortal Kombat Duo" but nothing came of it. I don't know what it was, exactly, either. I also vaguely recall seeing some sort of MK screenshots in a magazine as a kid that looked a bit different from the finished game but... I dunno about that ont.
I knew about all of these except for Wavenet MK3, and that blew my mind. I think the most likely way we'll ever see that is if somebody like Galloping Ghost Arcade get a hold of it. It is definitely out there in the hands of some collector, and I hope it does come to light to see what UMK3 could have been like with another revision. Great content as always of course!
Sadly, even if someone dumped the ROMs or crank up a Wavenet board, it would be regular 1.2 revision of UMK3, as the Wavenet features were only accessible when going online through Midway servers back then.
@@Lea-bz9be no, according to people in Chicago who played it, the balancing features were only accessible through the T1 connection, which sort of pinged Midway HQs. So even if it was a Wavenet machine back in 1997, it there was no internet connection, it would be regular 1.2
@@Lea-bz9be well, I never played it. But the people who told me that, were known players back in the Chicago area during late 90s, like Moe "30W" and Lex.
I remember there beeing gamescom footage where they showed MK vs DC Joker doing the gun fatality on Kitana and it had a different death animation. In the final uncensored European version it was changed to be much more tamer.
I want to see the originally-planned MK8 that was supposed to continue after Armageddon that was “gears of wars inspired”, “bleak and gritty”, and “back to basics” instead of MK vs DC.
As a kid, I was one of the rare people who had a 3DO. I remember being so hyped for the 3DO version of UMK3 after I saw it announced in an issue of Game Pro. Decades later, here I am still waiting 😭
How about a PS1 port of UMK3? The only disc based port is the Sega Saturn one, and it's noticeable that the ninjas had a different font name. They must have discarded in favor of doing MKTrilogy.
I remember being disappointed that mkx wasnt gonna be on ps3 since i didnt have a ps4. Looking back im glad it didnt happen. Would've been interesting at least.
Have you tried asking Ed Boon about Wavenet? Like the actual balance features, performance, any pictures or videos he may have in his basement lol. It would surprise me if he didn't document anything about it. This was a nice video btw
Wavenet......So Fascinating, could you imagine playing online... UMK... In the arcades..... In the fuckin 90's !?!? That could have been beyond rad dude
Do you think the guys over at Galloping Ghost Arcade might know anything about the Wavenet UMK3? They are located really close to Midways old offices and the actors who were digitized for the games show up there pretty frequently.
Someday, that a Wavenet arcade cabinet or board of either MK3 or UMK3 is sitting around in some warehouse somewhere in San Francisco or Chicago for someone to dump. Also, the reason that the DLC roadmap for MK Vs DCU was cancelled was because of Midway's financial troubles during the mid to late 2000s and their eventual bankruptcy in 2009, and of course Warner Bros. buying most of Midway's assets including Mortal Kombat.
This might be a silly question but who is narrating here? Idk if it’s ketchup or mustard cause I’m just getting into the MK competitive scene, love the video just wanna say whoever is narrating is killing it
I remember the 360/ps3 version of MKX. Was initially planning on getting that at the time and even remember a few screenshots of the 360 port, but once things went silent, and cancelation was expected, I just got MKX with my xbox one
It’s kinda funny that they cancelled the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of MKX due to inadequate quality and yet they decided to go through with releasing the awful switch version of MK1 now.
Also, like the lost media beta footage of Sub Zero MKM. It had the cut Rocky stair level, flying monks on the wind level and unsed cut scenes. You can see some of that on the first trailer for the game.
I have a possible piece of lost media. It was a hot wheels game that you could play on your phone, i don’t know about other platforms than mobile. It was a 2d like racing game that was like those old car parking games you would play on the web when you were a kid or something, with the iconic top down camera view but instead of parking cars, you are racing hot wheel cars. The control scheme was some sort of wheel on the left side of the screen, and then the pedals (either had both brake and gas or just gas my memory is fuzzy). It was quite old, roughly from 2013-2014 or something. You collected hot wheel cars by completing levels i think. I think there were boosters on certain tracks that made your car go faster, and there may or may not have been power-ups to screw over your opponent’s. I think i played it on an iphone 5 when i was little. I downloaded on the app store so it clearly was not some web browser game (or maybe it was, web browser games can become apps you can get on phones). I forgot the name of the game, it was like hot wheels racing among those lines or something different than that.
I thought I was crazy whenever I hear about like Wavenet version of MK3. Like, that sounded pretty revolutionary for the time. It's always odd like there's not much documentation when it comes to online play stuff. Like with Kaillera, Korean SFA3 and the fan made Street Fighter Online. It's so bizarre.
If this video gets any kind of part 2, don't forget that Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks was supposed to have a Remaster for XBOX360 and a sequel with Scorpion and Sub-Zero as the main characters, called Mortal Kombat Fire & Ice
Even though it has definitely always been there since it's release date, Mortal Kombat Mobile is such an obscure and weirdly underground game that I cant help but wish an mk content creator talked about it, there's so many hidden details and thought put into it that I would love to help out in understanding the world that is lost media to me (of course, there's always that terrible side since it's a free mobile game, like the devs milking items and characters to be pay to win and how it's unbalanced most of the time).
Love these videos, I honestly thought we were about to watch a video about lost MLG footage and lost CW Chasing the cup footage . Both are impossible to find. Video idea for ya 😊
Did I know MKX was supposed to also be on the PS3 and 360? Oh yes! I remember that because, at the time it was announced in summer 2014, I didn't have a PS4 or XB1 so I just assumed I would be playing on my PS3. Then in October 2014, I got a new job and ended up buying a PS4 after only working there for 2 or 3 weeks. I think right after I bought it, it was announced that the PS3 and 360 ports of MKX were being delayed. Of course, I didn't care about previous gen ports anymore. Unfortunately, not everyone got the memo about the delays. I went to pick up my MKX pre-order on the day it came out as soon as GameStop opened. When I was at the register to pick it up, there was a guy at the register next to me asking the cashier for MKX on the PS3 (or 360, I don't quite remember which). That guy was so disappointed when the cashier had to break the news to him. Too bad for him. He looked like he had a whole evening planned out that just got ruined.
The Xbox 360 and PS3 would have used the E3 version of the game by reducing the graphics and the frame rates but the fatalities and x-rays were causing a problem and if they released it then it will make it a bad port that's why they cancelled it. I also remember that the Wii U version had an Injustice Gods among US port of the game that no one is talking about.
Would love to get a copy of Mortal Kombat 9 on PC but unfortunately since it is de listed I can only rely on shady key resellers and frankly I'm not chancing that.
I imagine not dumping them would have been a STRICT instruction upon owning one or something, and to be honest, I respect the dedication after all those years if that's the case. I wonder how much of it would even work as Im sure those servers are LONG dead by now.
@@PNDKMYeah he has access to all equipment to dump the chips and he knows the community wants to see them but I guess he is just holding on to them. I have seen a picture posted from his site before it was removed, he was shocked I knew he had them as I found the images. I believe I showed them in my Mortal Kombat Chicago Tour video.
@@zenvultra I'm TotalMK mate, the first MK RUclipsr on here, been talking MK since 1999 online, have met devs and interviewed them... I have no reason to make anything up and even Ketchup and Mustard know that, but what ever floats your boat pal. lol.
I always knew mkx was meant to be for the 360 as well, The graphics were like in a middle point between xbox 360's late high end graphics and xbox one graphics, the graphics literally felt like injustice
The wavenet days are pretty much lost to time now. Most of those lemonheads quit MK after it went 3D so those who was there aren’t active anymore. Now MKx, 11 and eventually 12 has so much competition it’s a different era but wavenet will live in our hearts. In the end we got online just that the 90s wasn’t there yet to pull that off tbh.
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MK9 had an achievement called Wavenet you got by winning 100 online matches if that counts for anything.
Just mentioning you can still play mk9 online if you invite someone to private match and it counts towards achievements
@@desertx1753 PS3 and Vita had their online shut down awhile ago. Vita might work with Ad-Hoc though.
@@desertx1753 work in Xbox series?
@@Sobriinho sorry for the late response but it should it works for me on Xbox one x also it doesn’t work for ps3 from what I tried
@@desertx1753 thanks for the answer
You could easily do a second one of these. Like, EA's UMK3 iOS version, the MK1-3 remasters, MK Generations.
pretty good idea
Such wasted potential
Man, I miss UMK3 on mobile...yeah, the 3D graphics might have looked bad and the controls sucked but let's not forget that in the early 2010s of the mobile market, games like that were actually massive to have on the go on your phone!
Man, I remember playing the iOS version of UMK3 on my iPod on the school bus on many mornings
the iOS game isn't exactly lost, you can get it from the internet Archive
Not really lost media, moreso lost trivia, but everyone remembers NRS's first ever actual DLC character Skarlet, but not a lot of people remember that they accidentally made Skarlet free when she launched lol.
in the movie The Pacifier (2005) in the arcade scene there was an arcade version of mk trilogy in a mk2 cabinet but literally no one ever talked about it
I remember when MKX was announced, I went down to GameStop and preordered for PS3. When the delay announcement came, that day on my lunch break I went in and canceled my preorder. Sadly I knew what was coming 😕
Once again another great video my friend!
I remember pre ordering it also. Was upset cause I didn't own a PS4. So I sold my PS3 and majority of the games I got a PS4 and had enough to pre order the game., properly.
There was also an unreleased character for MK4 named Belokk, a red demon who was featured in a game magazine with just a single screenshot of him. There is also an incredible amount of unfinished quests, references, and unusable items in MK Deception Konquest.
As I recall reading way back when, Belokk was created by Eurocom without Midway's knowledge or consent, and removed once Midway found out about him. But it could also just as easily been a hoax, harkening back to the many made-up characters/runours that have existed throughout early MK history to get people talking.
I think MK11's Johnny Cage in Spanish having full voice clips unused also count. For context, for MKX, Johnny had a different VA and when it came to MK11, the VA got replaced for mentioning that he would be Johnny again on a fan convention. Warner took this as a leak and they fully replaced him with a different voice actor at the very last minute (like 3 months before the game's release).
It appears that the previous VA recorded all his clips before being replaced, as in the native version of the Switch version with no updates has his battle dialogue and fatalities with the old VA's voice, as well as the full final game leaving one story scene with the old VA by accident getting replaced in an update. Nobody has uploaded a video with the in-game clips outside of the story mode cutscene.
It's hilarious that Daniel Southworth (the voice actor for Devil May Cry's Vergil) can accidentally reveal that Devil May Cry V was currently in production like four or five years before the game released, but Mario Castañeda just says "oh yeah I'm playing Johnny again" really late in MK11's development and he gets kicked out.
Found this channel very recently. As a casual MK fan, it's really cool seeing this kind of content, especially the competitive stuff. Happy to be here!
Welcome!
Excellent video! There's actually a little more MK lost media, such as Mortal Kombat Nitro Edition, an updated port for the SNES that was being worked on. There's also the original version of Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection that was meant to completely remake MK1, MK2, and UMK3. Lest we forgot a deleted scene from MK Annihilation where Quan Chi makes an appearance! I think there's plenty of material for a follow-up!
Oh yeah I forgot about the MK Arcade Kollection there were 3 different versions that all got cancelled!
First time I hear about an updated port for SNES. Care to elaborate? Sounds interesting
You mentioned Quan Chi in MK: Annihilation. I was also upset when Season 2 of Mortal Kombat Conquest got cancelled.
Also the two lost episodes of the short-lived low-budget web series Federation of Martial Arts which are episodes 18 and 45.
> Introduces High Voltage Software
> plays footage of Raiden in the background
ayyyyy
I always think of Jim Carrey's spiel in the movie Cable Guy, talking about the wonders of the internet-to-be including "playing Mortal Kombat with your friend in Vietnam". Perhaps that was the vision for the Wavenet.
I always enjoy these videos! Thanks for making them!
while everyone on twitter asking Ed Boon when MK12 coming out they should be asking him about the WaveNet UMK3 Arcade. Since it is lost media and Ed Boon seems to be very engaging with the community im sure he'll have some sort of answer or clarity about it.
I know right? Even people who actually interview the guy. They all seem to ask the same boring questions every single time. Questions that have been answered over and over again in podcasts and stuff like that. This is what they should be asking, not the same rehashed "mk origins" questions... Not to mention "when's mk12?" dumb stuff. We will all see mk12 when then time comes. I see no point on knowing anything now. Game releases used to come with more magic and mistery, anticipation back then. Now everything "leaks" and then some hacker idiot shows even future plans for the game before most people get to actually play the game. It's fucking sad
Great video. I am surprised no mention of MK Annihilation's original ending. Shinnok had been banished to the Netherrealm and meets Quan Chi (played by a local Thai man who didn't speak any English) who said "everything is according to plan" and they walk off, setting up the unmade 3rd film.
Quan Chi is even in some promotional material and newly discovered BTS make up shots came up by the film's head of make up but the scene has NEVER been to released.
I think it was worth mentioning that MKX on Xbox 360 and PS3 were also canceled because the developers of the PC version were responsible for them, and as many remember at the start, it was terrible, almost unplayable, which is why Kombat Pack 2 was later was even canceled for a while, until a Qloc company was found for the port MKXL on PC
I also had no idea that something like MK3 Wavenet edition was planned before this video, that's news to me as well. Thanks a ton for sharing that info dude, and once again fantastic video.
Another piece of MK lost media is Mortal Kombat Ultra Girls. A fully completed MK animated show that was set to play on Cartoon Network and HBO Max that was in the vein of DC Superhero Girls that's never seen the light of day beyond a leaked screenshot or two.
Source?
You can easily do a part 2 mentioning Belokk and MK Fire and Ice
I'd love to see footage of MKX's PS3 and Xbox 360 versions. I've been curious about what it looked like for years
I don’t understand why they didn’t release it on those consoles. They didn’t have issues releasing a comprised version of 11 for Switch.
@@LakesideAmusementPro They probably couldn't get the game to run in an acceptable quality without serious downgrades
@@Kanzuki It was going to need downgraded anyway for the platform. But if it could have been MK9 quality at least, I'd have been happy.
I thought of Wavenet as soon as I saw the topic of this video, it's basically the holy grail of Mortal Kombat lost media.
I still hope that someday it will surface and it can be dumped to finally see what it was like (Even if the online obviously won't work anymore)
That's the reason it would be pointless to dump the ROMs. Since the servers are dead, Wavenet features would not be on the game. It would play as regular 1.2 revision of UMK3. Some people who actually played it in Chicago back then told me.
@@ninjagrinder It's still be good to have for preservation purposes, even if the servers didn't work.
@@ninjagrinder Private servers/server emulation has been done for other network-enabled arcade games before, like the modern BEMANI rhythm game series (Dance Dance Revolution, Beatmania, etc) where instead of connecting to the official "Eamusement" server people have just straight up made their own to get past that requirement.
As much as I want Wavenet to surface someday, I still want to see that MK vs. SF that Midway did a mockup of back during Deception. Someday MK and SF will clash for real.
I want them to fight everyone else, Tekken, Killer Instinct and the Guilty Gear characters
Eh, considering how much concessions they had to make with DC/MK, I'm not sure it would happen with one of Capcom's main IPs.
Darkstalkers would be absolute prime-material for a Mortal Kombat crossover though.
@@mandalorianhunter1 GG vs MK vs Last Blade vs Darkstalkers would invalidate every fighting game ever.
Japan hasn’t had a Mortal Kombat game in quite a long time so, if it did happen, Japan would be completely out of the loop on that.
@@TheXell Problem with that there hasn't been a Darkstalkers game in over two decades. As a matter of fact, other than DS being way too niche, Capcom would probably won't wanna release a new DS game because of the violence and mature nature of it nowadays.
I remember seeing Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Liu Kang listed in a magazine for upcoming games announced but only once, I was hoping to hear about it here.
My own personal MK lost media white whale is Jonathan Sloate's soundtrack sampler for the MK Conquest TV show. I have some blurry screenshots from an Ebay auction as proof of its existence, and that's about it. :/
Not sure if this really counts, but considering the subject of lost media, what about "Mortal Kombat Devastation", the supposed third live action film, but due to MK Annihilation bombing at the box office, was completely shelved?
Other than a few rumors of Johnny Cage possibly returning, and being mentioned on an old Midway website for MK Deception (featuring the render of Baraka inside the Slaughterhouse stage), really curious what went about with that one.
Interestingly, the failed 360/PS3 ports of MKX did still lead to the official fight pads they released for the game to be compatible with both console generations.
I still remembered I preordered MKX for PS3 since hadn’t had a PS4 during that year but since the ports were cancelled and yeah never got a refund by that……
The E3 demos of the 3D games are a dream of mine to have access to. All three seem like they were MUCH different from the finish products which make it so much more interesting to play
The differences between the final games and the E3 games are not that major, in Deadly Alliance it's most apparent because a lot was unfinished in the original demo from models to animations to stages to even sound, Mavado had a different model and Hsu Hao was probably still called Kublai Khan with a different model as well, but Deception and Armageddon were much closer to the final revisions, the only noteworthy thing about Armageddon's demo is that it MIGHT'VE still had beta weapons for Taven intact Konquest mode, as they were almost completely deleted in release.
I remember a few years ago I saw a video about some lost things in deception. One of the things that creeped me out the most was something called The Lobster. Sounds stupid I know but something about it just sent a chill down my spine. The Lobster was not a lobster, believe it or not. It was supposed to be in the konquest if I remember correctly. It was so wacky. If only I could find that video again.
Man, I never heard of Wavenet UMK3. I need to know more now lol. Good video man.
Wavenet is a trailblazer in the arcade community, if it didn't use a T1 line and used something cheaper, I bet it would have been more widespread. Just being able to play a fighting game online in 1995 is way ahead of the curve.
@@mostverticalproductions4808 If it used something cheaper at the time it wouldn't have worked as well.
Fantastic video!! The Wavenet stuff just fascinates me. Truly one of MK's most interesting mysteries despite the scarce information.
I actually pre ordered MKX for the 360, about a month later i got a text from my bro about it being cancelled. Never did get my $5 back, and I'm glad I didn't pay into it any further bc I lost the receipt lmao
Same for me! Gutted
RIP the ps3 version of MKX. I remember being annoyed because I had pre-ordered MKX and Dying Light for ps3 and both of their ports got canceled in the same year
I was so sad!
The story of MKX's cancelled PS3 & Xbox 360 ports worries me as I feel like SF6's PS4 port is gonna get cancelled, there are 2 months left & we still haven't seen anything of it yet, also you forgot to talk about MK Fire & Ice, the cancelled Shaolin Monks sequel, that had Scorpion & Sub-Zero as the game's protagonists!
PNDKM 4 LIFE , can't wait for mk12 they better bring the cyborgs back. Time to watch the vid 😎
I hope they're creative enough to set it in the past during the first Kung Lao's tournament. I doubt it'll happen though, it'll just be MK 1-3 all over again.
I just want Reptile
There IS the rumor that MK: Annihilation was supposed to have a post credits scene where Quan Chi shows up to tease the next movie based on MK4. Makes some sense since Shao Kahn's dad was credited as Shinnok but I haven't been able to see any footage that didn't come from Mythologies or Conquest.
It's not just a rumour, the scene was actually filmed. IIRC the actor for Quan Chi was from Thailand, and didn't understand a word of English, so he just stands there menacingly as Shinnok monologues. You can find pictures of the scene online.
From what I remember, those were screen caps from Conquest.
I knew about MKX coming to the PS3 and was super excited because a PS3 was the only thing I had, then I was super disappointed when the PS3 port was cancelled
That reminds me, I remember years ago hearing about "Mortal Kombat Duo" but nothing came of it. I don't know what it was, exactly, either.
I also vaguely recall seeing some sort of MK screenshots in a magazine as a kid that looked a bit different from the finished game but... I dunno about that ont.
I knew about all of these except for Wavenet MK3, and that blew my mind. I think the most likely way we'll ever see that is if somebody like Galloping Ghost Arcade get a hold of it. It is definitely out there in the hands of some collector, and I hope it does come to light to see what UMK3 could have been like with another revision. Great content as always of course!
Sadly, even if someone dumped the ROMs or crank up a Wavenet board, it would be regular 1.2 revision of UMK3, as the Wavenet features were only accessible when going online through Midway servers back then.
@@ninjagrinder but the balancing features should be on the rom.... Right ? I mean that should be a core game feature not online wavenet
@@Lea-bz9be no, according to people in Chicago who played it, the balancing features were only accessible through the T1 connection, which sort of pinged Midway HQs. So even if it was a Wavenet machine back in 1997, it there was no internet connection, it would be regular 1.2
@@ninjagrinder 🤔 thats weird ... You got some good intel bru
@@Lea-bz9be well, I never played it. But the people who told me that, were known players back in the Chicago area during late 90s, like Moe "30W" and Lex.
Shout out high voltage software, had a job interview there years ago but didn't get the job
I remember seeing the Render for Quan Chi and Harley in MKDC and getting so excited! Perhaps the Quanfather would have existed years before intended..
After a long hard day at work I picked a great time to get on RUclips!!! Thanks man!!
i've seen a lot of mk lost media videos but i never heard of mk3 wavenet edition before this one
I remember there beeing gamescom footage where they showed MK vs DC Joker doing the gun fatality on Kitana and it had a different death animation. In the final uncensored European version it was changed to be much more tamer.
With the lost mkx ports, i can even go a step further to say that i actually pre-ordered it for xbox 360 until it was cancelled
As did I - devastated
I want to see the originally-planned MK8 that was supposed to continue after Armageddon that was “gears of wars inspired”, “bleak and gritty”, and “back to basics” instead of MK vs DC.
As a kid, I was one of the rare people who had a 3DO.
I remember being so hyped for the 3DO version of UMK3 after I saw it announced in an issue of Game Pro.
Decades later, here I am still waiting 😭
How about a PS1 port of UMK3? The only disc based port is the Sega Saturn one, and it's noticeable that the ninjas had a different font name. They must have discarded in favor of doing MKTrilogy.
I remember being disappointed that mkx wasnt gonna be on ps3 since i didnt have a ps4. Looking back im glad it didnt happen. Would've been interesting at least.
Have you tried asking Ed Boon about Wavenet? Like the actual balance features, performance, any pictures or videos he may have in his basement lol. It would surprise me if he didn't document anything about it. This was a nice video btw
moronforty years oldvirgin, ed boon doesnt care about that stuff, hes a business man, only lifeless like you would attempt to ask him that
Wavenet......So Fascinating, could you imagine playing online... UMK... In the arcades..... In the fuckin 90's !?!? That could have been beyond rad dude
As of today we can add Pikamee to the list of lost media.
2:06 - Oh I most certainly do. 'Scuse me for a moment....... _(screams into a pillow)_
I love when Kortal Mombat post :D
Also I believe it was the Harley Batman Beyond Skin posing in the graveyard that I saw for her render
I think Kung Lao and Doomsday were also planned as DLC for MK vs. DC.
I remember the preorder for PS3 MKX and had the pre-order card that would've been redeemed. Wish I hadn't tossed that little piece of MKX/PS3 history.
This is an interesting video . Thank you for sharing this
Do you think the guys over at Galloping Ghost Arcade might know anything about the Wavenet UMK3? They are located really close to Midways old offices and the actors who were digitized for the games show up there pretty frequently.
I heard a rumor that Doc Mack has the board in his possession but I don't know how true that is.
Even if they had the board and turn it on, it would be regular UMK3. Rev 1.2.
Wavenet features were only accessible when going online back then
Someday, that a Wavenet arcade cabinet or board of either MK3 or UMK3 is sitting around in some warehouse somewhere in San Francisco or Chicago for someone to dump.
Also, the reason that the DLC roadmap for MK Vs DCU was cancelled was because of Midway's financial troubles during the mid to late 2000s and their eventual bankruptcy in 2009, and of course Warner Bros. buying most of Midway's assets including Mortal Kombat.
my dad pre-ordered the ps3 port of mkx, but since it got axed, we didnt get to play it for a very long time and i played newer mk games way less
I'm always glad when I get to watch a new K&M video for dinner lol
4:23 Oh how history repeats its self.
watching this now and seeing them say they didn’t like the quality of mkx on ps3 and Xbox is crazy because literally look at mk1 on the switch
Awesome idea for a video, keep up the great content guys.
@OfficialPNDKM Lmfao screw off
Nononono mkx isnt 8 years old... right?
This might be a silly question but who is narrating here? Idk if it’s ketchup or mustard cause I’m just getting into the MK competitive scene, love the video just wanna say whoever is narrating is killing it
I remember the 360/ps3 version of MKX. Was initially planning on getting that at the time and even remember a few screenshots of the 360 port, but once things went silent, and cancelation was expected, I just got MKX with my xbox one
You definitely need to make a part two. You missed the liu kang spinoff for gods sake!!!!!
Jokes aside great video as always from you.
It’s kinda funny that they cancelled the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of MKX due to inadequate quality and yet they decided to go through with releasing the awful switch version of MK1 now.
B-but gaming on the go 🥺🥺🥺
Lol Jax' traps at 1:32. Impressive
Also, like the lost media beta footage of Sub Zero MKM. It had the cut Rocky stair level, flying monks on the wind level and unsed cut scenes. You can see some of that on the first trailer for the game.
MKX “healthy” online player base? In my best Kotal voice “You disappoint me!” 🤣🤣
Would you consider Ash Williams being lost media?! The game even accidentally revealed him but he never appeared 🤔
It 100% has lost media assets at least, considering all KP1 characters had a slot in the game planned and some had even dialogue including "Ash"
Now we'll never see Keith David's Spawn interacting with the one and only Bruce Campbell.
Truly, a damn shame.
Babe wake up Ketchup/Mustard uploaded a new video
I have a possible piece of lost media. It was a hot wheels game that you could play on your phone, i don’t know about other platforms than mobile. It was a 2d like racing game that was like those old car parking games you would play on the web when you were a kid or something, with the iconic top down camera view but instead of parking cars, you are racing hot wheel cars. The control scheme was some sort of wheel on the left side of the screen, and then the pedals (either had both brake and gas or just gas my memory is fuzzy). It was quite old, roughly from 2013-2014 or something. You collected hot wheel cars by completing levels i think. I think there were boosters on certain tracks that made your car go faster, and there may or may not have been power-ups to screw over your opponent’s. I think i played it on an iphone 5 when i was little. I downloaded on the app store so it clearly was not some web browser game (or maybe it was, web browser games can become apps you can get on phones). I forgot the name of the game, it was like hot wheels racing among those lines or something different than that.
Kano at 9:55 looks identical to Chavo Guerrero Jr.
Identical.
I thought I was crazy whenever I hear about like Wavenet version of MK3. Like, that sounded pretty revolutionary for the time. It's always odd like there's not much documentation when it comes to online play stuff. Like with Kaillera, Korean SFA3 and the fan made Street Fighter Online. It's so bizarre.
If this video gets any kind of part 2, don't forget that Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks was supposed to have a Remaster for XBOX360 and a sequel with Scorpion and Sub-Zero as the main characters, called Mortal Kombat Fire & Ice
Surprised Bellok for MK4/MKG didn’t make the list.
^ “I’m not like these other Scam Likely’s, I’m Scam For Sure.”
I still like to think there's an arcade build of MK Trilogy out there (forgotten in some former Midway employees basement) but I doubt it.
I was bummed about MKX not dropping on 360. I was broke asf back thenchaha.
Even though it has definitely always been there since it's release date, Mortal Kombat Mobile is such an obscure and weirdly underground game that I cant help but wish an mk content creator talked about it, there's so many hidden details and thought put into it that I would love to help out in understanding the world that is lost media to me (of course, there's always that terrible side since it's a free mobile game, like the devs milking items and characters to be pay to win and how it's unbalanced most of the time).
What about Ash in MK11, I always thought he was in the bag
Love these videos, I honestly thought we were about to watch a video about lost MLG footage and lost CW Chasing the cup footage . Both are impossible to find.
Video idea for ya 😊
Mk3 for the Atari Jaguar, announced and highlighted in gaming mags but never released. It played a factor in my purchase of the console.
What about MK fire and ice?
That was just a concept. No real word if a playable build ever existed.
Ermac in MK1 (lost media very rare footage)
scarlet in mk2
... An exclusive version of Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3...
I'm now curious about what happened...
Did I know MKX was supposed to also be on the PS3 and 360? Oh yes! I remember that because, at the time it was announced in summer 2014, I didn't have a PS4 or XB1 so I just assumed I would be playing on my PS3. Then in October 2014, I got a new job and ended up buying a PS4 after only working there for 2 or 3 weeks. I think right after I bought it, it was announced that the PS3 and 360 ports of MKX were being delayed. Of course, I didn't care about previous gen ports anymore.
Unfortunately, not everyone got the memo about the delays. I went to pick up my MKX pre-order on the day it came out as soon as GameStop opened. When I was at the register to pick it up, there was a guy at the register next to me asking the cashier for MKX on the PS3 (or 360, I don't quite remember which). That guy was so disappointed when the cashier had to break the news to him. Too bad for him. He looked like he had a whole evening planned out that just got ruined.
MKX for Xbox 360 and PS3 was the last time I ever did a pre-order.
The games never existed and I never did another pre-order.
Jax looks like michael b jordan stung by bees 1:27
The Xbox 360 and PS3 would have used the E3 version of the game by reducing the graphics and the frame rates but the fatalities and x-rays were causing a problem and if they released it then it will make it a bad port that's why they cancelled it. I also remember that the Wii U version had an Injustice Gods among US port of the game that no one is talking about.
Would love to get a copy of Mortal Kombat 9 on PC but unfortunately since it is de listed I can only rely on shady key resellers and frankly I'm not chancing that.
Go sailing the high seas
BROOOOO!!!! I preordered mkx on the ps3 as a kid and then had it canceled!!! I never got my 5 bucks back and cried about it 😭
Men i want to play MK Special Forces how it was intended by J. Tobias so much… if only one day we would get it done
I know someone who has the UMK3 Wavenet roms, but he hasn't dumped them.
I imagine not dumping them would have been a STRICT instruction upon owning one or something, and to be honest, I respect the dedication after all those years if that's the case.
I wonder how much of it would even work as Im sure those servers are LONG dead by now.
@@PNDKMYeah he has access to all equipment to dump the chips and he knows the community wants to see them but I guess he is just holding on to them. I have seen a picture posted from his site before it was removed, he was shocked I knew he had them as I found the images. I believe I showed them in my Mortal Kombat Chicago Tour video.
Source: Trust me bro
@@zenvultra I'm TotalMK mate, the first MK RUclipsr on here, been talking MK since 1999 online, have met devs and interviewed them... I have no reason to make anything up and even Ketchup and Mustard know that, but what ever floats your boat pal. lol.
@@TotalMK It could be true but you know… proof and all that
I always knew mkx was meant to be for the 360 as well, The graphics were like in a middle point between xbox 360's late high end graphics and xbox one graphics, the graphics literally felt like injustice
So MK3 wavenet was basically NESICA before NESICA was a thing?
Jessica?
high voltage also did the family guy video game for og xbox and ps3, just a heads up
I just want them to Finish MK11 and Finish the Krypt, and give us the extra DLC pack we all know we didn’t get!
The wavenet days are pretty much lost to time now. Most of those lemonheads quit MK after it went 3D so those who was there aren’t active anymore. Now MKx, 11 and eventually 12 has so much competition it’s a different era but wavenet will live in our hearts. In the end we got online just that the 90s wasn’t there yet to pull that off tbh.