I like the simplicity of this. It's inspiring, it looks easy enough that a person would _act_ on his interest in this sort of DIY project. I have found that when it looks as if something requires enormous investment just to test if an idea _might_ work, it's tempting to move on. Lowering the threshold of time, energy, money and materials definitely makes more people willing to fiddle around in the garage rather than go buy something already finished. I've had the best time with experiments. You get a sense of what it takes to do the R&D on new technology.
You got a good eye to imagine what fits what. There's a guy in the UK that took a cheap S.S. coffee travel mug apart and made a stove. Sorry I didn't save the link. Sure like these video's where people are creative, thanks
John, thank you kindly! I'm not going to lie, it came about with allot of trial and error! But i definitely got lucky finding components that worked, based on what i could find around the house. I'm also pretty lucky to have such a fantastic wife that doesn't freak out when "items go missing" and end up in my projects, as long as i replace them for her! Lol
18:15 I see not a little bit of smoke, I see a lot of smoke. I believe your secondary jets need to be at the top of the air chamber between cans. That will allow fresh air to come in the bottom, rise between the two cans, get heated on the way up, and come out inside the burn chamber, where the hot air mixes with unburned wood gas and ignites the unburned gas. The way your stove is set up, there is no rising column of air. When you put the pot over the top, it closed off most of the airflow through the burning pellets. That is why it started to smoke. Right now, this is nothing but a stainless steel hobo stove.
I think the holes in the side of the Ikea flower pot takes away from the air holes in the bottom. This is like a miniature rocket stove. Some air holes near the top, above the burn material, will help with igniting some of the gasified fuel.
I used that flower pot with my kit as well. I added a bale ad use it to boil water. Sadly, I think Ikea discontinued that item. They have a similiar one, but it is not the same size.
You should use corn cob charcoal, as well. It burns very hot and fast, which can reduce the reliance on gas, bituminous coal and forest products. If you get more corn cobs, be sure not to dispose them.
Thanks Thong, it is certainly a much more efficient way to cook versus an open fire, where you would otherwise require 10x or 20x more fuel to accomplish the same amount of cooking.
Do you think it would be possible to make a heater version of such a stove, replicating slow combustion stoves principle in houses? Air control, little chimney....Just trowing some toughts around The idea would be to heat a small camper or an area of similar dimensions.
The stainless steel Ikea pots are no longer being made or sold, but you can still find them on eBay. Here is a link to one of them. "IKEA Grundtal Hanging Cutlery Holder Caddy Plant Pot Steel #20922 | eBay" m.ebay.ie/itm/182440596699?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1#vi__app-cvip-panel For the top part the "grill", i used this and cut it to shape: www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/spritta-citrus-squeezer-transparent-yellow-stainless-steel-00152164/?Cooking&gclid=CjwKCAiAzNj9BRBDEiwAPsL0d2d_F3S-jkt90HJ0tgVbASQ3nU3vasSAge5kCSgvkwOQTPViR43FuRoCnsgQAvD_BwE For the outer can, I used Nestlé Baby food tins, but a coffee can of the same size should work. You'll have to go out to your grocery store and look at the tins to see what fits, since container packaging changes all the time.
Daniel, thanks allot! The stainless steel burn chamber can be easily found on IKEA's website by searching through the "Grundtal" kitchen series. The item itself is called "Grundtal flatware caddy" and it's $9.99 on the US site. The outer can was just a coffee tin, i think it's what most people refer to as a # 10 tin if I'm not mistaken. It's a common size used for baby food powders by Nestlé, as well as ground coffee of various brands.
I just built my first gasifier stove a couple of days ago--you can check it out the vid on my channel if you like--and I was wondering if wood pellets would work. I figure if it's pretty wet in the woods that a ziplock bag full of pellets could make a good fire in the stove though my pellet stove experiences tell me I better also have some liquid or gel fire starter. I think you said you added some alcohol. Do you remember about how much? 1/2 oz? more? Less? Not super important, just want to compare notes…Really great job on the build and test!
Hey Tim, i found that using an alcohol based gel hand disinfectant works best at starting up the flame right every time with the least amount of fuss. The one i use has a hand pump like a bathroom soap dispenser, and i find that just 2 or 3 squirts is more then enough to get things started. By the way, i'm uploading a new version 3 of this stove later today. Have a look, it's by far the best design so far and it produces a really nice looking jet of tightly concentrated flames in the center of the pot. With 3 cups of wood pellets, It produces flame for just over 45 min and maintains red hot coals with very usable heat for about 1 hour longer after the the flame has died out. I had a look at your vid, stove looks great. I especially like the top ring your using as a pot stand. Is that part made from stainless steel?
Joe Marques Not sure exactly what tyne ring is made of to be honest. Steel? Yes but very pliable and will fit different diameters. Go to houseoffire72 on youtube. Shawn my say what it's made of. Good piece of kit. There is a nice little sweet spot above the flame that the ring raises your pot up to…HAND DISINFECTANT!!! I would have never thought of that! Beats the pellet gel any day and we all have it! Thank you for that tip…I will check your stove out and I'll post my burn test when I can. Thanks for watching and your kind words…and I SUB'D you! ATB…Tim
EXCELLENT vid.! I agee with halfway holes ! However , you need app. 8 16, 1/8" to 3/8" holes 1/2" from top for gassification ! ? P. S. I was fortunet to find 2 utensal holders @ Value Village ( thrift/charity donation store ) , and 1 @ a green bin donation box ! THANKS 🙏 🍯 🔨🔧🔩
Should probably wait until you have the nose thing under control before doing a video. Gawd the sniffing is annoying. The way you described it and the way it looks to me from my understanding (which could be faulty) is that the lower holes on the inner can are primary air holes...they feed the fire from below it, not the heated gas above it. Can anyone clarify this for me? At 6:23 you say you are starting to see gasification, but that yellow/orange flame all the way through the burn tells me that there is very little gasification (or at least very inefficient gasification. "Gasified" flame should be blueish, not yellow I think. As soon as you put the pot on it started smoking - a lot, not a little! at the 11 min mark (I skipped a lot) it is still smoking even without the pot. Not a good design at all I'm thinking. Probably should have redesigned BEFORE doing the video.
J Battler, learning to build something from scratch, and without plans is a PROCESS. More importantly you learn ALLOT MORE from your failures and the things that do not work, then you do from what does work. It forces you to analyze what is actually going on, as well as question your previous assumptions to arrive at a better solution. Having said that, if all I ever did was share what works, then what did you or I learn from that? If you want something that "just works" then by all means go buy one on Amazon or eBay, I assure you there are plenty out there. But to those who care to experiment, and LEARN from my mistakes and their own, you will probably find some value in this video. Lastly, there is no need to be a rude jackass in regards to "the whole nose thing" as you say. For your information this was actually a result of a medical condition that I was being treated for and required surgery. Not that I actually need to explain that to you, but I'm sure if you were grown up enough and actually cared to learn anything, rather than come in here and troll with your stupid comments you would be able to get past that, but obviously that would be asking to much of an intellectually challenged individual like you. In any case you are free to your opinion, and you are also free to build your own stove to perfection and share (to which I'm certain you have not), so have a good one and I'm glad you stopped by.
J Battler; Seriously, you are a pretentious, arrogant, judgemental freaking assholes !!! Must be nice to think your better than anyone else, while you sit on you're fat ass and criticize others, who have more creativity, than you could ever imagine !!! Do this world a huge favor, and get the fuck over yourself...
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I like the simplicity of this. It's inspiring, it looks easy enough that a person would _act_ on his interest in this sort of DIY project. I have found that when it looks as if something requires enormous investment just to test if an idea _might_ work, it's tempting to move on. Lowering the threshold of time, energy, money and materials definitely makes more people willing to fiddle around in the garage rather than go buy something already finished. I've had the best time with experiments. You get a sense of what it takes to do the R&D on new technology.
You got a good eye to imagine what fits what. There's a guy in the UK that took a cheap S.S. coffee travel mug apart and made a stove. Sorry I didn't save the link. Sure like these video's where people are creative, thanks
John, thank you kindly! I'm not going to lie, it came about with allot of trial and error! But i definitely got lucky finding components that worked, based on what i could find around the house. I'm also pretty lucky to have such a fantastic wife that doesn't freak out when "items go missing" and end up in my projects, as long as i replace them for her! Lol
Might be a good idea to pick up the odd rose and some candy on the way home from work. Thanks for the honest comment you gave me a good laugh.
18:15 I see not a little bit of smoke, I see a lot of smoke. I believe your secondary jets need to be at the top of the air chamber between cans. That will allow fresh air to come in the bottom, rise between the two cans, get heated on the way up, and come out inside the burn chamber, where the hot air mixes with unburned wood gas and ignites the unburned gas.
The way your stove is set up, there is no rising column of air. When you put the pot over the top, it closed off most of the airflow through the burning pellets. That is why it started to smoke. Right now, this is nothing but a stainless steel hobo stove.
I think the holes in the side of the Ikea flower pot takes away from the air holes in the bottom. This is like a miniature rocket stove. Some air holes near the top, above the burn material, will help with igniting some of the gasified fuel.
I used that flower pot with my kit as well. I added a bale ad use it to boil water. Sadly, I think Ikea discontinued that item. They have a similiar one, but it is not the same size.
If your kettle was about 11/4 inch above the top of the stove you'd have a better burn, but a great design just the same. Thanks for sharing.
Wow. That's such a good design man. Good vid
Thanks Stephen! Check out my version 3, if you haven't done so already. It's definitely an improvement upon this design!
charcoal is good for the soil drainage in gardens, flower pots or lawns. (called biochar when charged with nutrients from compost before adding.)
You should use corn cob charcoal, as well. It burns very hot and fast, which can reduce the reliance on gas, bituminous coal and forest products. If you get more corn cobs, be sure not to dispose them.
Thats a real nice job you did of that.
This is really awesome wood stove.
that is a lot of heat out of a handful (or two) of wood pellets. i like the design idea.
Thanks Thong, it is certainly a much more efficient way to cook versus an open fire, where you would otherwise require 10x or 20x more fuel to accomplish the same amount of cooking.
Great video ! I really liked it ! May try to make my own! Thank you !
Well done project and video!
DUDE great build, I like this.
Cool. Less than 20 bucks and a few hours to shop for parts and put it together. I'm lazy and bought one for less than 20 bucks on amazon.
Do you think it would be possible to make a heater version of such a stove, replicating slow combustion stoves principle in houses? Air control, little chimney....Just trowing some toughts around
The idea would be to heat a small camper or an area of similar dimensions.
Very interesting. U sure are creative
Not just bigger or more holes on the inner can but also the outer can.
No need to make any more holes, just make the grates higher.
Hey, at 16:20 you pan over and show a green stove. What's that?
could you cut a small hole high on the inside and outside where you could feed it
No, this type of stove needs to be fed from the top.
What was the outside temp again?
Impressive
What are you using as fuel?
Is it possible to have product links so we could order these products for online for covid safety??
The stainless steel Ikea pots are no longer being made or sold, but you can still find them on eBay. Here is a link to one of them.
"IKEA Grundtal Hanging Cutlery Holder Caddy Plant Pot Steel #20922 | eBay" m.ebay.ie/itm/182440596699?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1#vi__app-cvip-panel
For the top part the "grill", i used this and cut it to shape:
www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/spritta-citrus-squeezer-transparent-yellow-stainless-steel-00152164/?Cooking&gclid=CjwKCAiAzNj9BRBDEiwAPsL0d2d_F3S-jkt90HJ0tgVbASQ3nU3vasSAge5kCSgvkwOQTPViR43FuRoCnsgQAvD_BwE
For the outer can, I used Nestlé Baby food tins, but a coffee can of the same size should work. You'll have to go out to your grocery store and look at the tins to see what fits, since container packaging changes all the time.
Thank you ^_^
@@joecmarques they don't sell tins like this in my local grocery store :(( I'm not sure why :((( but thank you for the help^_^
Sir great video. But sir one question is can it smoke
it is smokeless once the fire becomes hot enough and established.
NICE VID!!!
Can't find that bigger Stainless pot you have. Are all stainless steel parts from IKEA? Shoppinglist?
THX for posting!
Daniel, thanks allot! The stainless steel burn chamber can be easily found on IKEA's website by searching through the "Grundtal" kitchen series. The item itself is called "Grundtal flatware caddy" and it's $9.99 on the US site. The outer can was just a coffee tin, i think it's what most people refer to as a # 10 tin if I'm not mistaken. It's a common size used for baby food powders by Nestlé, as well as ground coffee of various brands.
I just built my first gasifier stove a couple of days ago--you can check it out the vid on my channel if you like--and I was wondering if wood pellets would work. I figure if it's pretty wet in the woods that a ziplock bag full of pellets could make a good fire in the stove though my pellet stove experiences tell me I better also have some liquid or gel fire starter. I think you said you added some alcohol. Do you remember about how much? 1/2 oz? more? Less? Not super important, just want to compare notes…Really great job on the build and test!
Hey Tim, i found that using an alcohol based gel hand disinfectant works best at starting up the flame right every time with the least amount of fuss. The one i use has a hand pump like a bathroom soap dispenser, and i find that just 2 or 3 squirts is more then enough to get things started.
By the way, i'm uploading a new version 3 of this stove later today. Have a look, it's by far the best design so far and it produces a really nice looking jet of tightly concentrated flames in the center of the pot. With 3 cups of wood pellets, It produces flame for just over 45 min and maintains red hot coals with very usable heat for about 1 hour longer after the the flame has died out.
I had a look at your vid, stove looks great. I especially like the top ring your using as a pot stand. Is that part made from stainless steel?
Joe Marques Not sure exactly what tyne ring is made of to be honest. Steel? Yes but very pliable and will fit different diameters. Go to houseoffire72 on youtube. Shawn my say what it's made of. Good piece of kit. There is a nice little sweet spot above the flame that the ring raises your pot up to…HAND DISINFECTANT!!! I would have never thought of that! Beats the pellet gel any day and we all have it! Thank you for that tip…I will check your stove out and I'll post my burn test when I can. Thanks for watching and your kind words…and I SUB'D you! ATB…Tim
+Joe Marques
A suggestion, a cheap Walmart tripod ??
These are extremely old videos... if you watch my current vids you will notice I'm now using a tripod.
I believe you meant less "than" $20
nice
Can't find that Stainless pot you have
m.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/art/10202088/
Thanks Joe
Genial...!!!
EXCELLENT vid.! I agee with halfway holes ! However , you need app. 8 16, 1/8" to 3/8" holes 1/2" from top for gassification ! ? P. S. I was fortunet to find 2 utensal holders @ Value Village ( thrift/charity donation store ) , and 1 @ a green bin donation box ! THANKS 🙏 🍯 🔨🔧🔩
sniff, coke, fire, beavis
observe improvise adapt
think outside the box
Should probably wait until you have the nose thing under control before doing a video. Gawd the sniffing is annoying.
The way you described it and the way it looks to me from my understanding (which could be faulty) is that the lower holes on the inner can are primary air holes...they feed the fire from below it, not the heated gas above it. Can anyone clarify this for me?
At 6:23 you say you are starting to see gasification, but that yellow/orange flame all the way through the burn tells me that there is very little gasification (or at least very inefficient gasification. "Gasified" flame should be blueish, not yellow I think. As soon as you put the pot on it started smoking - a lot, not a little! at the 11 min mark (I skipped a lot) it is still smoking even without the pot. Not a good design at all I'm thinking. Probably should have redesigned BEFORE doing the video.
J Battler, learning to build something from scratch, and without plans is a PROCESS. More importantly you learn ALLOT MORE from your failures and the things that do not work, then you do from what does work. It forces you to analyze what is actually going on, as well as question your previous assumptions to arrive at a better solution. Having said that, if all I ever did was share what works, then what did you or I learn from that? If you want something that "just works" then by all means go buy one on Amazon or eBay, I assure you there are plenty out there. But to those who care to experiment, and LEARN from my mistakes and their own, you will probably find some value in this video.
Lastly, there is no need to be a rude jackass in regards to "the whole nose thing" as you say. For your information this was actually a result of a medical condition that I was being treated for and required surgery. Not that I actually need to explain that to you, but I'm sure if you were grown up enough and actually cared to learn anything, rather than come in here and troll with your stupid comments you would be able to get past that, but obviously that would be asking to much of an intellectually challenged individual like you. In any case you are free to your opinion, and you are also free to build your own stove to perfection and share (to which I'm certain you have not), so have a good one and I'm glad you stopped by.
J Battler; Seriously, you are a pretentious, arrogant, judgemental freaking assholes !!!
Must be nice to think your better than anyone else, while you sit on you're fat ass and criticize others, who have more creativity, than you could ever imagine !!!
Do this world a huge favor, and get the fuck over yourself...
make one without IKEA and wood pellets. start your fire with a flint stick. otherwise it's a useless stove.
thanks for the info I was going to make this, i understand the wood pellets and flint stick but what about the ikea ?
what?
That is a Lot of sniffling involved...
Stop w/ the cheap cocaine!
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Hahaha, you're a freaking judgemental assholes, get over you're dumbass self !!!
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very bad. very. very. very bad