14:40 not sure how long it takes "just keep feeding it different meals" to work, but after a handful of meals you get the option to feed it mandrake or wolfsbane or crafting failure-type foods and that ends the little sidequest immediately with the desired result
also 15:55 I'm closing in on 99/99 endings and have like a dozen sword of farwell and I've never had the sorcerer spawn in on my first run through the levels
In the original ps1 I beat it in 2000 and didn’t know about the bonus dungeon until 2003. When someone told me and I didn’t believe them unlike this newer version the old one don’t tell you shit.
But you still NEED to bloody armor 1 party member I would still have that Raid boss do 9999 PER hit at lv 255 on Earth mode and no that Raid boss will NOT die from the Scumbag Slayer. Theirs 1 Raid boss that could work with the Phantom Slayer weapon but that boss won't DIE in 1 hit from IT either.
That and she can't SELF Heal so if your going to bloody armor her still use the Phantom Slayer because Bowman's Self heal is still crap and still only restores like 2000 HP PER Secret Medicine use give HIM a 2nd Phantom Slayer Bloody armor 1x Beserk Ring and Ring of Might and he will still do 9999 damage PER Poison/Explosion pills per use at lvs over 100.
I'm playing through this now. I love this game as a whole. However one feature they should have put in this dungeon is where you can warp (one-way) to the entrance to save. This saves the backtracking. The caveat is that you have to navigate your way back to where you left off. Just a thought.
You can buy an item from Santa Clause when/if he appears that does this. I think it's the return home frog. I'm not sure if he's in the remake, though. I haven't played it yet 😅.
I just got to these parts, so I realize this now. Thankfully, they have these features. Otherwise, this could be an absolute nightmare. Thanks for the heads up, you two. 😊
How low of a level are you! Your enemies are purple? I haven't seen a purple enemy since they all turned green on Expel way before the Krosse cave at the start of the game and I've had it on UNIVERSE difficulty since I started the game.
What other characters have a move that can only be used if they are with another specific character. Like Precis, as you need Ashton in the same party for her to Learn her Hologram skill thing
@@frankenrobbie so if I have Precis welch and Aston I should be fine. Does that mean I still need Celiine to hit the required amount of party members for Welch. Or can I ditch Celine
@@Yusei255 You need at least four members to recruit Welch if I recall correctly, so you can recruit Ashton and then Precis in Linga, then run back to Lacuer to get Welch! (Welch's PA is time-limited and I don't really remember when's the deadline for recruiting her, but as long as you do it before you stay the night in Bowman's house, you will definitely get Welch!)
Welch is crap and the Cutoff point is once you BEAT the Hoffmain ruins you can no longer do the PA for her to join even with BOTH Opera and Bowman BOTH in the party.
I kind of like that better honestly, encourages you to finish the game before getting lost for a dozen plus hours in this thing lol. Then you can always finish this, turn off Gabriel's limiter, and then fight him again in OP form.
Her ultimate move (at least on the original, havnt tested it yet on the remake) is by going back to Eluria Tower after finishing the game, on the top floor you get a Crystal, use metalwork on it with Welch and you get her ultimate.
Damn... I did it wrong.... I thought You had to go through the game all over again. So I did I new game + and see that after getting back to fun city again I can't access the dungeon now but have to beat the game again and then load the file from that....
On floor 10, the section at the top is closed for me. It says "choose three symbols of death to be your way. Triumph, then come forth." How do I open it?
The loot could have been better inside this pyramid chests...why are we getting veggies at the end of the game.. already beat the last boss...we don't need veggies. Original way better. During customize they got lazy, in the old version the items actually morphed. They ruined claudes rock move. Dumbed it way down. They took away Ashton's poisen breath move.. idk.
you don`t, you will have to be in the second world and talk to the eldery man in fun city to teleport back to Expel and then going in the maze of tribulations
load your clear save instead of new game plus, then go to fun city arena, there is an old man there who will send you into a simulation of the first world
You have to do as shown at the start of the video, you have to load the post game save (not start ng+) then go back to fun city and talk to the old guy in green at the arena.
Rena can and on a SOLO Claude run ONLY she can kill the 5th floor boss once its dead you can go BACK to doing a SOLO Claude run if you choose to Bowman/Chisato can equip it and I prefer that they do.
I don't know but what we did was just surround her with fighters and keep her perma locked with constant multi-hit attacks and hope to God she didn't break free.
STILL Bloody armor Claude Opera Chiasto Dias/Bowman floors 7 to 9 else even at lv 255 on EARTH mode I didn't even last for 10 seconds before the entire party dies IN 1 hit.
Yeah to be honest, I cheesed the hell out of post game. 4x bloody armor with Opera healing. Then I figured out later on you can get life leech on your weapons
But before HP drain IS possible still bloody armor Claude Opera Bowman + Dias all lv 100 first half then kick out Bowman for a Bloody armored Chisato though in this version Tear Gas kind of sucks.
Because you're hell bent on using Bloody Armor in every single comment and video that you can't seem to play without them. I went through the whole game on universe without bloody armor/helmet including all raid bosses, and maze of tribulation, and all post game coliseum fight, ending at level 160-170. From New Game till I check all those off my checklist, still takes under 24 hours.
That was a number one complaint about Star Ocean - Second Story R is that you have to beat the final boss, Gabriel, in order to access the Maze of Tribulations, which took away consistency with the original from 1999. In fact, in the original Star Ocean - The Second Story, you can access the Bonus Dungeon before beating the game if you saved at a final save location in Feinal, go to Fun City, and be virtually transported back to Expel. That bug needs to be fixed so you can beat the raid bosses, get all fishes, and best weapons without having to beat the game.
It's literally a postgame dungeon. New Game+ modes weren't really a thing in the late 90s, and it's obvious this place was meant to be that. You still have to unlock all endings & characters for the platinum achievement, so you'd be playing multiple times anyway - something you still had to do in the original.
@@callmeshaggy5166ACTUALLY you DO NOT need to unlock all the endings to get the platinum achievement lying troll. Believe me I used bloody helmet and got platinum in two playthroughs with 15 endings.
Probably the best post-game super dungeon in any game ever.
I prefer the seraphic gate in valkyrie profile 1 and 2.
Same music :). Well not exactly the same but still
I always loved the one at the end of Star ocean 3 but first time playing through the second game on my switch and I absolutely love it
ACTUALLY it really IS NOT. Besides with Bloody Armor it is not only too easy but not worth doing compared to other games post dungeons
I second this
Straight and to the point walk through. No BS. Awesome
This is a perfect and incredible video. There aren't nearly enough likes for what this video is worth. Thank you for making it!
This video earned him a follower mate
This guide helped me so much! Only thing missing was where you fish for that last fish. Which is on last floor where the red lava is 😂
14:40 not sure how long it takes "just keep feeding it different meals" to work, but after a handful of meals you get the option to feed it mandrake or wolfsbane or crafting failure-type foods and that ends the little sidequest immediately with the desired result
also 15:55 I'm closing in on 99/99 endings and have like a dozen sword of farwell and I've never had the sorcerer spawn in on my first run through the levels
Thank you for this guide! This was very helpful and I got through the whole dungeon following this.
No BS, Straight to the point. sub!
In the original ps1 I beat it in 2000 and didn’t know about the bonus dungeon until 2003. When someone told me and I didn’t believe them unlike this newer version the old one don’t tell you shit.
Floor 4 also has welch's ultimate weapon if your using her
You forgot to add Ashton's special move "Tri Ace" which you can find top right together in the small room with the other 2 chests
Scumbag Slayer isn't really missable. You can get one from one of the raid enemies.
But you still NEED to bloody armor 1 party member I would still have that Raid boss do 9999 PER hit at lv 255 on Earth mode and no that Raid boss will NOT die from the Scumbag Slayer.
Theirs 1 Raid boss that could work with the Phantom Slayer weapon but that boss won't DIE in 1 hit from IT either.
For those that make it here should be a treat and I just think they slacked hard on everything, even bunny shoes
Love this guide ! Great work
Variable Volt (get by seeing 30 unique spots) is Chisato best weapon not Phantom Slayer
Maybe from a damage perspective sure. However, 50% life steal is insane. Pair that up with the gale earing from Eluria and she's at 70%
That and she can't SELF Heal so if your going to bloody armor her still use the Phantom Slayer because Bowman's Self heal is still crap and still only restores like 2000 HP PER Secret Medicine use give HIM a 2nd Phantom Slayer Bloody armor 1x Beserk Ring and Ring of Might and he will still do 9999 damage PER Poison/Explosion pills per use at lvs over 100.
I'm playing through this now. I love this game as a whole. However one feature they should have put in this dungeon is where you can warp (one-way) to the entrance to save. This saves the backtracking. The caveat is that you have to navigate your way back to where you left off. Just a thought.
You can buy an item from Santa Clause when/if he appears that does this. I think it's the return home frog. I'm not sure if he's in the remake, though. I haven't played it yet 😅.
@alexanderpringle2541 He's in this one too. Godsend too. Oh, make sure your loaded with money though
I just got to these parts, so I realize this now. Thankfully, they have these features. Otherwise, this could be an absolute nightmare. Thanks for the heads up, you two. 😊
Muito obrigado. Incrível suas dicas e mapas
This helped me so much. Thank you so much!
Was waiting for this but me and my bro figured it out yesterday
Yeah took a little while than I was expecting to edit unfortunatly 😅
For new game plus can you change difficulty?
For example switch from galaxy to universe?
Very good guide, mate!
How did you get the phase gun sir? Notice me please!!!!
How did you get Claude ability with beam laser what level to unlock it
How low of a level are you! Your enemies are purple? I haven't seen a purple enemy since they all turned green on Expel way before the Krosse cave at the start of the game and I've had it on UNIVERSE difficulty since I started the game.
This maze was so easy at high levels.
The puzzle didn't work for me and i did it the same way you did so how do i complete floor 3?
What other characters have a move that can only be used if they are with another specific character.
Like Precis, as you need Ashton in the same party for her to Learn her Hologram skill thing
IIRC You need Precis for Welch to learn Mithril Fist (PA in Armlock)
@@frankenrobbie so if I have Precis welch and Aston I should be fine.
Does that mean I still need Celiine to hit the required amount of party members for Welch.
Or can I ditch Celine
@@Yusei255 You need at least four members to recruit Welch if I recall correctly, so you can recruit Ashton and then Precis in Linga, then run back to Lacuer to get Welch!
(Welch's PA is time-limited and I don't really remember when's the deadline for recruiting her, but as long as you do it before you stay the night in Bowman's house, you will definitely get Welch!)
@@frankenrobbie checked bowman's house in Linga is the cut-off point
Welch is crap and the Cutoff point is once you BEAT the Hoffmain ruins you can no longer do the PA for her to join even with BOTH Opera and Bowman BOTH in the party.
Is Phantom Slayer only usable by Chisato? I didn't recruit them in this playthrough, does that mean i can't do the maze on that save file?
Rena and Bowman can use it too
its not even her best weapon, Variable Volt is. More attack and has a neat effect.
You can get another scumbag slayer by defeating an elite boss on the world map. I think it's the one just outside Harley.
Unrelated to the video but, have you tought of doing a video comparing the character changes from the original to the remake?
So much nostalgic i remember before fighting last boss i get here first to lvl up, but now we must defeat last boss firts to unlock this.
I kind of like that better honestly, encourages you to finish the game before getting lost for a dozen plus hours in this thing lol. Then you can always finish this, turn off Gabriel's limiter, and then fight him again in OP form.
How does the factor on the Star Guard+ "All for One" work?
I heard Welch has an ultimate move here. Nibelung something. I opened every chest and finished the dungeon but didn’t get it
Her ultimate weapon is here on floor 4 it's one of those ?Weapons that you need to Appraise from that large group of treasure chests.
Her ultimate move (at least on the original, havnt tested it yet on the remake) is by going back to Eluria Tower after finishing the game, on the top floor you get a Crystal, use metalwork on it with Welch and you get her ultimate.
Oooooh I misread the location. Thanks
Damn... I did it wrong.... I thought You had to go through the game all over again. So I did I new game + and see that after getting back to fun city again I can't access the dungeon now but have to beat the game again and then load the file from that....
Just confirming its always the bottom right Funny statue on floor 6, going back to OG
I liked this up until season 10, but then you didn't really show the full puzzle. Otherwise absolutely great guide
went into the arcangel fight with only 2 characters, now I'm stuck
On floor 10, the section at the top is closed for me. It says "choose three symbols of death to be your way. Triumph, then come forth." How do I open it?
You need to choose a route that has three red rooms in it, like the one he uses in the video
as the shield says choose 3 paths of death it's pretty self explanatory my dude
So the sword of marvels definitely still misses.
Just got to floor 4 and the chest for Extinction is not here. Is there something else I need to do?
Are you playing as Claud ?
Does anyone know the name of the music that plays during most of this dungeon?
An old comment at this point, but it's called "Mission to the Deep Space" and is used in a lot of tri-Ace games.
The loot could have been better inside this pyramid chests...why are we getting veggies at the end of the game.. already beat the last boss...we don't need veggies. Original way better. During customize they got lazy, in the old version the items actually morphed. They ruined claudes rock move. Dumbed it way down. They took away Ashton's poisen breath move.. idk.
How do i get the flying thing in the first world? I just started new game plus on hard
you don`t, you will have to be in the second world and talk to the eldery man in fun city to teleport back to Expel and then going in the maze of tribulations
load your clear save instead of new game plus, then go to fun city arena, there is an old man there who will send you into a simulation of the first world
You have to do as shown at the start of the video, you have to load the post game save (not start ng+) then go back to fun city and talk to the old guy in green at the arena.
it's part of the linear story progression. u simply cant miss it
What if u don’t have anyone that can equip the phantom weapon 😭
Rena can
Rena can and on a SOLO Claude run ONLY she can kill the 5th floor boss once its dead you can go BACK to doing a SOLO Claude run if you choose to Bowman/Chisato can equip it and I prefer that they do.
Hardly ULTIMATE GUIDE when it tells you nothing how to beat the bosses -.-
How did I beat this s as a kid?
I don't know but what we did was just surround her with fighters and keep her perma locked with constant multi-hit attacks and hope to God she didn't break free.
A forced retreat? When there is a stat for times retreated? Not happy.
Just use Megabombs
@@user-mm5zf2ey4g “Megabomb” works against phantoms?
STILL Bloody armor Claude Opera Chiasto Dias/Bowman floors 7 to 9 else even at lv 255 on EARTH mode I didn't even last for 10 seconds before the entire party dies IN 1 hit.
Yeah to be honest, I cheesed the hell out of post game. 4x bloody armor with Opera healing. Then I figured out later on you can get life leech on your weapons
But before HP drain IS possible still bloody armor Claude Opera Bowman + Dias all lv 100 first half then kick out Bowman for a Bloody armored Chisato though in this version Tear Gas kind of sucks.
Because you're hell bent on using Bloody Armor in every single comment and video that you can't seem to play without them. I went through the whole game on universe without bloody armor/helmet including all raid bosses, and maze of tribulation, and all post game coliseum fight, ending at level 160-170. From New Game till I check all those off my checklist, still takes under 24 hours.
That was a number one complaint about Star Ocean - Second Story R is that you have to beat the final boss, Gabriel, in order to access the Maze of Tribulations, which took away consistency with the original from 1999.
In fact, in the original Star Ocean - The Second Story, you can access the Bonus Dungeon before beating the game if you saved at a final save location in Feinal, go to Fun City, and be virtually transported back to Expel.
That bug needs to be fixed so you can beat the raid bosses, get all fishes, and best weapons without having to beat the game.
It's literally a postgame dungeon. New Game+ modes weren't really a thing in the late 90s, and it's obvious this place was meant to be that. You still have to unlock all endings & characters for the platinum achievement, so you'd be playing multiple times anyway - something you still had to do in the original.
@@callmeshaggy5166ACTUALLY you DO NOT need to unlock all the endings to get the platinum achievement lying troll. Believe me I used bloody helmet and got platinum in two playthroughs with 15 endings.