Who Can Be Welsh Rugby's Next British and Irish Lions?
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2024
- I take a guess at what Welsh players will make the British an Irish Lions for the tour to Australia 2025
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Liking Wales' second row. Fender looks like an absolute unit.
Yeah with him teddy and Carter we have some good young guys to come into the team to eventually partner Daff
Picking a Lions XXIII this week - even if Gatland was coach(!) - you'd struggle to make the case that any Welsh player was the best option in his position. Refell and Dyer on the bench would be arguably more than we deserve. But I agree we've got the right to expect improvement next year, and I don't think it's impossible that any player you've named could be in the frame in 12 months' time. Weirdly I'd put Wainwright's chances as perhaps the highest, simply because attacking 8's are in such comparatively short supply. Unless Ireland completely implode next season (a prospect as delicious as it is vanishingly unlikely) then any 50/50 calls are going to go to Irish players, and quite understandably so. And even our best is no better than 50/50 against their counterpart in green right now.
Yeah, I guess retrospectively I was a little bit over ambitious perhaps. But I do feel like this should and could be big strides next season know that lots of young players have been blooded and have gained experience. Add into that some of our quality players coming back like lake and Morgan
Let’s hope anyway 😂🏴
I really like the action clips ..Great ...from Costa Rica ..
Thanks, Jonathan. Always good to hear from you pal 👍🏼
Hey, congrats on yr 1000! maybe a mention for Ratti too, for this summer’s tour, not Lions obvs
Thank you very much and thank you for the support that you’ve given me over the last few of months👍🏼
I actually think Ratti has been super impressive the last couple of months. if he carries on on his form, I think he’s got a good chance to get called up🏴
3 or 4 in the squad...... can't see anybody making the test team.....we have a long way to go.
I think that’s fair. I think I might have overestimated tbh but I do think the players I names do have a genuine chance
Thoughts on Harri Deaves chances breaking into the welsh squad?
To be honest, Tom, if he carries on the way he is he’s going to be impossible to ignore and the fact that there has been no dip in performance no matter if he plays 6 or 7 Just ads to the chance of being selected. I think he’s quality 🏴
Personally i'd say that was a massively overly optimistic prediction. For me jac morgan & tommy raffel are the only welsh players anywhere near lions consideration & given the best of those prospects jac morgan missed the 6n i think we'll be lucky to have a single player in the squad. Rio dyer could be a bolter but he's suffered from playing in a really poor welsh side so it's been difficult for him to show what he can do. But those others you've highlighted are nowhere near for me.
That fair mate. I think saying we would be lucky to have a single player in the squad is quite harsh. Admittedly, this was an optimistic prediction, but I’m an optimistic guy and I think Wales will improve next year😁
@@TheWelshSportsPodcast There’s nothing wrong with a bit of optimism my friend. If i'm honest i was pretty dejected after this years 6N so i can’t help but think worst case scenario. Hopefully you are right about an improvement next season because this one was painful.
Yeah I totally relate with your feelings tbh. I felt the same way too. I just honestly think this is the lowest we can get and it seams as though the WRU are trying to actually turn things around for a change and we’ve got a lot of rookies that next year would have had experience in big games so I’m hopeful. Plus how well ospreys have been doing and how well the young players at Cardiff have stepped up 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
🇿🇦 If I were to pick a World XV Tommy Reffel would be my 7 and I’m not kidding.
Wow that’s high praise indeed. He certainly will class when it comes to the tackle area and just general defence. I love him 😂😂
Thanks for watching from SA👍🏼
Christian, you forgot about our best player and a shoo-in for the lions starting spot….. that of course being the GREAT Costelow. 🤪
The boy who shall lead us 🦸🏼♂️🦸🏼♂️🦸🏼♂️
😂 You might be eating your words in a year my friend 👀😂
Blimey we must be good.
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I’m an optimist what can I say 🤷🏻♂️😂
Morgan for sure and Reffell.
Yeah I think there pretty close the being nailed on I agree 👍🏼🏴
Must have read my mind with this I was just thinking what Wales players make the Lions next year 😂
I was trying to think logically how many players in each position go on the tour each time and it doesn't look good for the Welsh lads.
Morgan and Reffell I think are the only nailed on Lions. Jenkins and Tomos Williams should make it but I'm not 100% given the other nations depth.
Could we see Wales with the fewest ever players from one of the Home Nations in the Lions squad next year? I think the record to beat is 3 😂 I only laugh or else I'd cry
Yeah, I have to be honest Jonathan I think I overestimated slightly how many players will make the tour?
I guess these guys are the ones with the best opportunity, but same as you when you look through the other nations the depth is going to be quite hard for the Welsh boys to match. Of course I’m still hopeful, either that or very foolish😂
@@TheWelshSportsPodcast Have to be hopeful. Theres a lot of talented players who could do a job for the Lions. Depends on what Andy Farrell thinks.
I see a very very large Irish contingent coming and wouldn't be surprised in they make up almost all of the test side too
Yeah, your spot on. Almost certainly going to be full of Irish players and you have to say rightly so.
I’ll be interested to see who he does look at from Wales as I do think there is a fair bit of young talent in our small country and I’m really hopeful that next season we start heading in a much more positive direction😬
@@TheWelshSportsPodcast If Jac Morgan doesn't go on the tour I will be absolutely fuming 😂
As long as he’s fit he’s a cert. Unless Farrell pulls a Clive Woodward 😬
Hi Christian, the next Welsh lion, Will Rowlands, Joe Hawkins ,Aaron Wainright, Daf Jenkins, Dewi Lake, Jac Morgan, Tommy Raffel, Tomas Williams. I can see Rio Dyer and Cameron Winnett in the lions i do agree with what you have been saying there are some good Welsh players that should play for the lions. I know we were Grand slam losers in the 6N but there is a few good solid individuals in the Wales team and should be in next years lions tour.
Well done on you 1000 subs and catch you soon Take care
Thanks Shaun. I’m really hopefully we see a bit improvement in Welsh rugby next season and if so I think a few of these players have a good chance 🙏🏼
Always good to here from you pal 👍🏼🏴
As an irish fan i think both ireland and eng starting 2nd rows are better than the welsh 2nd rows, so maybe one will get in as 5th choice based on current form and ability.
Being brutally honest the only area of strength in the forward pack is the back row so guys like Morgan and rafell have a good chance but back row is also stacked in eng and ire so only one will be selected.
In the backs I think a Welsh 9 and winger will be selected and possibly winnet at 15 (as injury cover). Aside from that no welsh 10 or centre will come close unfortunately
Yeah tend to agree with everything you’ve said Joe. Hard to argue in fact. I do think
Jenkins and Lake will make it on the plane though. I’m hoping for bid improvements next year from both of them 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@101MIGHTYJOE Hi Joe I know there will be no Welsh at 10 we are struggling at that agree, Ireland and England have got good second rows Cameron Winnett on the wing and Jac Morgan
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Yeah, I'd agree
McCarthy
Bernie
Henderson
Ryan
Itoji
Martin
Chessum
3 from this list are not going.
Jac Morgan, Maybe Tomas Williams and Tommy Reffel. That’s it really
That’s fair. I think Jenkins and Lake have really good chances too
On current form, these lads aren't going. At some point, you need to learn how to win. When you think of the multiple trophies and experiences of win, other sides have. They're the real deal. 2 or 3 will go or get called up, but I can't make a case for these guys currently
Ospreys have beaten 4 South African sides, 2 in SA with young Welsh talent, last time I looked South Africa won the world cup, Wales will have a higher ceiling in the next few years, due to blooding young talent.
DM I take your point and admittedly some of these were optimistic but I’m an optimistic guy 😁 and I think next season we will see marked jump in the Welsh teams form
@spud7823 It remains to be seen how high the ceiling is thats media talk tbh. The Welsh lads could be good players in a few years, but in most positions, they're up against guys who are not only good players but proven to be consistently good players with the medals and experience.
We have to cling on to hope because that’s all we have at the moment 😂
@TheWelshSportsPodcast That's the right way to think. Will be interesting to see if this potential is real or just a glass half full take. Admittedly, Wales had a lot of good players injured in the 6 nations. Guys who would have made a difference
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Personnally i doubt that Wales will have that many players on next years lions tour Im feeling that only FOUR players will get on the plane D.Lake - A.Wainwright - T.Reffell L andJ .Morgon Are Wales best bets at this time But there is alot of competition in their respective positions Especially in the Back Row
Fair point. No Rio Dyer or Daff Jenkins?
As much as it pains me to say considering the history of welsh players who have been exceptional for the lions with test match winning performances.. if not a single welsh player makes the starting 15 I wouldn’t be surprised even though catastrophic considering wales rich history supplying players that the lions simply had to have in any starting test 15.. the list of welsh greats since the inception of the lions has been seriously impressive for such a small rugby nation… but wales need to concentrate on themselves right now and need a huge improvement in next yrs 6nations to even think any welsh players could be considered for the lions..
I do see a big improvement coming over the next year. I may be over optimistic but a lot of young guys have got exposure at both regional and international level and there’s good signs at Ospreys and Cardiff. Plus a few key players like lake and Morgan to come back, maybe Anscombe. I think we will see better result next season.
So I hope anyway 😂😂🥹🥹🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@TheWelshSportsPodcast agreed ... there is optimism and I've seen it many times with Wales over years of ups and downs.. I honestly do feel there has to be a couple of serious changes in coaching staff .. ie attack coach for one and not to mention it yet again the 25 cap rule for obvious reasons..