I think you will need to remove the fans eventually, what usually happens is that the dust coalesces into a carpet over the inlet side of the fins. You can dislodge it temporarily by blowing in backwards, but the fan housing and the fan blades are too tight to allow the ball of dust to fly out, so you probably still have a ball of dust floating around inside your fan housings.
I agree 100% been fixing laptops for ever and I have to this to countless laptop's if tou have no airflow over those fins you have very bad cooling I have also noticed that even a layer on the cooling fins insulates it very well (hopefully you don't have a carpet in there!)
agreed. I always separate the fan housings to get the mat of dust out on the intake side of the fins. I usually use a bit of aluminum HVAC tape where necessary to seal and route air for improved thermals, and of course always repaste along with increasing/insuring even heatsink pressure across the CPU.
Hello, to do it right you must absolutely dismantle the fans and remove the dust from the fins of the heatsinks. I also advise against spraying the cleaning liquid directly on the screen: it can run and infiltrate the different sheets of the LCD panel. You should spray a cleaning gel (it exists) or simply spray the liquid on the cloth and not on the panel.
ive been spraying directly on the screen of my 2011 dell laptop since it was new, and it's perfect. the whole thing about cleaner on screens was from old TFTs and such. i own 4 laptops and direct spray on them all the time. same with my desktop screens. been doing it over 20 years, zero issues.
@@ghomerhust watch linus tech tips colab with electro boom, where they tested if an electric discharge could damage PC components. After many tests and ultra worst case scenarios they managed to damage a single RAM chip. Despite that, nearly all techs that work with PCBAs are wearing anti static bands or other grounding equipment. Just because it didnt happen on the small sample size, doesnt mean it cant happen, and precaughtions (especially the simple ones of applying it to the towel) are much cheaper than replacing parts.
I cringed SO hard when you sprayed cleaner directly on the screens. Having had the misfortune of messing up a client's screen cleaning it like you did, I've started spraying cleaner on the rag and wiping. This keeps excess fluids from creeping around the screen edges and getting into the innards. Just an FYI from someone who's has to pay the price.
I was a PC tech for 14 years. You might be surprised how many systems I’ve fixed just by cleaning them out. I had one from an insurance company that I had gotten 11 ounces of dust in the minivac before I even fired up the compressor.
i’m so sorry to bother you, but i’ve been searching all over and can’t find an answer to a particularly odd issue.. i’ve had my laptop for 5yrs and never had one single problem until recently, literally overnight it started making a weird rattling or rumbling noise, checked my cpu temp in UEFI/BIOS and watched it quickly go from 40°c to 73°c within minutes (i wasn’t gaming or running anything else) all while my cpu fan remained around 774rpm the entire time..? i’m sure if i hadn’t turned it off immediately the temp would’ve kept rising with the cpu fan doing less than 800rpm, ultimately frying itself… oddly enough, besides all that my laptop seems to be acting like everything is perfectly fine… no lagging, no slow speeds, runs everything normally, boots up and runs everything fast and efficiently, doesn’t shut itself down or throttle or anything… but the noise is persistent (it’s always been silent) it’s like it doesn’t know that it’s cooking itself to death! again i’m truly sorry to bother you! you absolutely don’t have to reply, i don’t want to waste your time! but if you have any piece of advice or direction to point me in, i would genuinely appreciate that so, so much i can’t tell if “all of a sudden” it realized it’s super clogged with dust (i say that because this seriously happened SO out of the blue with zero prior warning signs, i feel like i would’ve noticed performance issues if it was accumulation of dust?) or a damaged heat sink/fan failure that needs replacing, or perhaps a motherboard issue or something to do with the thermal paste? i’ve barely run my laptop at all since this happened, only to briefly check the cpu temp/fan speeds and to boot up one game to see how/if it would perform (it was running for maybe 5-10mins, i shut everything off before temps got into the danger zone, yet it still ran beautifully somehow) i’m truly at a loss, i’m sorry for overexplaining but i’m not sure which pieces of information can be helpful to crack this mystery! please don’t feel obligated to respond, if you’ve come this far and read all my anxious ramblings, thank you, i truly appreciate that in itself!! (oops, editing to mention that i have a 2019 ASUS ROG Zephyrus G15, model GA502DU with AMD Ryzen 7, 3750H, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 with SSD)
@@leahvigs The rattle noise is somewhat alarming. If I were to make an educated guess, I might say one of your heat sink fan sets came loose or (and this is probably what it is) take a flashlight and long nose tweezers and peek inside your fan vents. Sounds like something could be blocking a vent or slowing a fan. Otherwise use compressed air and try to clear it out before disassembly.
@@leahvigs there are amazing RUclips tutorials on how to disassemble laptops. I would recommend doing a Google search for “ASUS model GA502DU” and look for a video. Just getting the cover off of any laptop can be a tedious and delicate process. Take your time. As soon as you see metal plating inside, touch it to equalize your body voltage to the laptop circuitry. You will need a small screwdriver set and ether a prying kit or plastic putty knife to pry apart parts without damaging your beautiful laptop. I wish you the best of luck friend.
By how the fans looked, you definitely needed to remove the fans. I bet you have a what essentially is a carpet of gunk lodged against the fins of the cooler. My son's laptop was throttling agresively as well and the fans looked half as bad as yours but the fins were completely clogged.
3:17 You should apply the cleaning fluid to your rag, not your device. Cleaning fluids that work well with electronics will not have alcohol (may destroy your display) or waxes (leave a build up).
You just explained every single problem that i have been facing with my flow x13. OMG, I’ll try cleaning the fans first thing tomorrow and will be back with an update. Thanks man! ❤
I have tried this approach on an old 2008 laptop, and it helped a little bit, but upon taking the fans and stuff out and apart, there is waaaaaaaaay more dust in the fin stacks than there is in the fans and cleaning the heatsink itself will result in much better results
Tip on cleaning laptop coolers, and blower style gpu. Always start by blowing into the heatsink, opposite the direction of the traditional flow. This is by far the easiest way to clean out the heatsink. Now in this case alot of the dust was caught on the fan, in most cases the fan will be cleaned out good at the same time. I especially see this when people clean out blower style gpus again and again they will force the dust trough the heatsink, the way it got stuck and then complain its much harder to clean than axiel style gpu.
I had a laptop that was slowing down considerably. When I opened it up to clean the fans, the packed dust and cat hair had to be pulled out in solid chunks. I’d initially thought it was a charcoal filter of some kind. 😄😄
One of my wife's coworkers had a laptop that was "broken", it was constantly locking up. The fan didn't look THAT dirty, but once I removed it, I pulled a mat of hair off of the cooler. I went ahead and pulled the cooler and found another mat of hair between the cooler and exit vents on the laptop. After that clean up and re-paste, no more lockups. Imagine that.
just for future reference. when cleaning off a laptop keyboard or screen, you want to spray the cloth, then wipe. not spray the laptop. squirting water over electronics and letting it form beads that can drip down into sensitive parts is no bueno
Seeing how the fans were as bad as they where more than likely ur cooling fins are clogged as well, might want to clear them out anyway to get a little more cooling. but that's just my opinion, better safe than sorry
The thing is a lot of us do not have the confidence/experience to do that. We know its a best practice, but since we know so little about laptops and since laptop parts are not as easy to find (if we break something), the most many of us are willing to do is blow air into the cooling fins. A horror story from one of my friends, he tried to do a deep clean of his laptop, first time he tried this, looked up videos, thought he understood the process. To take apart the fans he needed to wedge something carefully to take apart the plastic fan housing, well, he snapped three of the plastic holders, now his fan housing doesn't close properly and is permanently making odd noises. It works yes, but this is just how easily someone with little to no experience can mess this up. We may know enough to blow compressed air, perhaps hold the fan so it doesn't spin, hell some of us might even disconnect the battery. But doing a DEEP clean requires a certain level of understanding that most of us do not have, especially with laptop hardware where there is little room for error.
I always clean my laptop weekly by blowing into them to avoid opening up the fans. If you let it sit for too long, you should clean it by opening fans too.
Just a temp solution, more like monthly maintenance. After two years really needs the full fan out and clean fan and fin stack with a brush along with a re-paste of CPU and GPU to get it back like new.
I wish you would have put some new thermal paste. Thermal Grizzly is awesome. I think most of us like to see that. I’m glad you put out another video tho. Happy New Year!!!
Hello! Just a quick tip: I also use an Asus laptop and from my experience the "performance" setting in armoury crate makes the CPU and GPU perform well but keeps cooling to a normal level. If you use "Turbo" mode it just cranks the fans to the max and has no limit on cooling. (Turbo is available only when plugged in and charging). You should try "Turbo" mode in armoury crate and check the thermals again. :)
I'm super curious now to see the temp differences between the blowout and repasting/cleaning the heatsinks now. After two years the paste could probably use a refresh with something like Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a follow up video with a repaste.
I was actually surprised how harmless it was. Every checked a Graphics card from an household of a heavy smoker? That looks 10 times worse, and the black gunk can also not be removed by just spraying some air on it.
I should do this but I'm a bit scared to open mine up. I did it before and had a heck of a time because the screws were in metal inserts but the inserts were put in very thin plastic tubes that had broken from the force of opening and closing the lid :/ I was not happy when I found how cheaply it was made...
I just cleaned out my laptop I bought back in 2018 this summer. It's crazy how much dust builds up in there after a few years. I had to fully remove my fans because the exhaust side was plugged up.
The heat sink! There is still hair caught between the fan (exit) and the heatsink fins. This can be a huge ball and still restrict, the best you can do it is to unscrew the fan and clean the fins. Still no compounding but soooo helpful.
I would strongly recommend that you remove the fans and make sure that you don't have any dust built up between the fan and the heat sinks, and you'll get much better temps with a repaste with some good thermal paste, noctua, Arctic, thermal grizzly kryonaut, etc
Might I suggest vauuming the debri first and THEN blow it out? By just blowing it out, you are only shoving debri further into your system, and by vacuuming first, you remove all but the smallest particles.
Wow, with that tight of blade spacing, I think I know why my parent's asus has slowed down... Thank you! (I am though, also suspicious of the thermal paste based on your previous video).
I have the 3080ti version of this and recently it's struggling to perform. This might be what's happening to me I guess..good to see this video gives me hope I can solve the issue. It's constantly throttling when temps get up. I just thought maybe it was something else surely the dust couldn't cause it to perform so bad
Loved the video!! You actually got me to clean out my 6 year old MSI GE72VR Laptop (running a 1060).....for the very first time. I was SOOOOO surprised how clean it was.... almost no dust at all...Makes no sense to me how that's possible. Its been on 5 deployments (2 to the desert) and we have 4 cats at home.......Mind blown. Needless to say if I ever replace it ill be getting another MSI.
Check out Asus' boost settings, I have a G14 and in the Windows power plan it sets it to boost at max power. It would get too hot and throttle, once I backed it off the difference was night and day. Combined with a deep clean should be better than new.
When holding the fan to blow it out, blow from the sides and in first and last to clean the heat sink as it usually is a whole carpet between the fan and heat sink fins. Shorter, blow in air at the hot air exit and back flush it all
@2:50 This looks like the interior fans and airflow are not working properly... You should clear all fans and paths of air flow every 6 months or so per computer for optimal Cooling...
5:00 You... you don't blow it out monthly...? What is wrong with you :x 6:10 You need to take the fans off and clean in front of the fins... they are likely blocked with dust and debris as well...
Eventually the whole heatsink, repaste, thermal pad replacement and also if you wanted to, you can get packs of copper shims of various thickness and thermal tape. Placing copper shims on the top of the heatpipes help draw more heat out. I have also seen flat copper heatsink tubes available to custom or add more pipes to the current heat sink. I had to do this on a couple of graphics cards and laptops with very weak heatsinks to save them from frying
I have a Zenbook 15 Pro and my desktop is a Noctua only so I'm used to silent PCs. My solution for the performance mode is to use headphones (DT770 in my case), that way the fans do their job without annoying me.
@4:04 Always open the case, and if necessary, separate the fans and clean them individually.. Then re-install... The fans are delicate. so be very careful..... A can of compressed air for computers is all you need, but never tip it from vertical up and down, too tilted horizontal max as you find places you need to blow into...., or the liquid wont have time to become a gas and will come out as a liquid...... the liquid that decompresses into gas is liquid if you tilt the can, and you don't want liquid shorting out, into your computer.. always keep the can straight up and down as you use it...
I set my armoury crate fan curve to run at high rpm during medium temperatures. (They speed up sooner) A cool feature is also the led keyboard changes colors based on the temperatures. You can see my keys change colors from green orange to red while also the fan speeds up.
You really should replace thermal paste with like mx4 or gelid extreme, paste especially the factory ones are really bad even worse after 2yrs.... Also replace the thermal pads with better ones will give you that edge of higher boosts and better frames 🎞️
I got the 2023 version and I use it for Unreal 5, Substance Painter, Blender, and all my game development. I use the second screen for all my shaders and color palettes and also for watching tutorials when working it's fucking amazing. This is not the best for playing games I mean you can but it is for professionals who are making games on the go :) If you are not a game developer or a 3d artist on the go I don't think this is the laptop for you. Be sure to always keep this thing clean tho, never let it get this dirty.
Sooo glad I came across this video because you and your channel are perfect for this. What if you either 3d printed a custom back or modified the original to accommodate a slim 140 like the Arctic P14 slim to provide additional cooling.
I never had an ROG laptop last longer than 6 months due to thermal throttling and then frying the motherboard. To me, they are glorified paperweights after going through 5 of them. Had my alienware 2 years with no issues, no throttling or thermal issues.
Once a year I will have a "tech day" where I clean out my girl and I's desktops and laptops. I also usually do a repaste if anything looks crusty and address any hardware issues that come to light. I am also one of those weirdos that kind of looks forward to it.
After 2 years well worth replacing the thermal compound when you eventually do get I there, it will just be crumbly mush. Should net you a few more degrees as well.
I have found that the compressed air is not enough. Dust builds up between the fan and heatsink and looks like a piece of felt is stuck between them. If you have more issues, I suggest removing the fans and cleaning the heatsink with a brush or something. Also new thermal paste might lower the temp a few deg, the stock thermal paste is not the best most of the time.
i use my computer tower as a foot rest most of the time, i'm doing it right now in fact. once or twice a year it starts blue screening, after a reeboot the CPU temp is usually around 43c/110f, that's how i know that it's time to take it out to the garage and blow the dirt out of it. i've never bothered to hold the fans or anything, i just let it buck.
I recently repasted my Asus ROG Strict G15. It came from a bad batch prior to June 2021, so even having liquid metal it went hot as hell for no reason. And I couldn't really explain, because the laptop is great. It was my work laptop and recently I bought the latest model with a R9 6900 instead of the R7 5800 the work one had, and it was easy colder and silent. So I repasted it correctly (first time lm tho) both cpu and gpu on lm and it's amazing.
Yo Maj, directly next to the fans that you cleaned off is a piece of black tape. Under the black tape is a heatsink finstack. The tape acts as a duct to force the air in the fan to exit through the fins. Now you gotta pull up that tape and get all the rest of the dust that you blew into it, otherwise the rig will be back to 100% clogged in a few weeks.
Easier said than done for some. I've a Dell G5 SE and upgrading the thermal paste was a must, a long with moding the cooling system, locking the BIOS to a older version (1.4.4) in order to get the best performance out of it.
How’s that old Alienware doing the one you got from your friend? I absolutely love videos of Liquid Metal applications it’s fun to see the absolute limit that devices can be pushed.
I had to recently open up the fan casing on my gaming laptop. It had built up dust like felt. It was completely blocking dust air flow. Normally I would go in and blow it out but because it built up the dust so badly. It dropped my temp by 30c.
Replacing your TIM wouldn’t be a bad idea either. Some folks are reselling PTM7900-series PCM sheets. It’s what Lenevo has been using starting with 2021 models.
Replacing the thermal paste with a PTM7950 will be the best thing that can be done. It is possible to see up to 15°C less temperature on the GPU in games compared to Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut paste. Adding undervolting can reduce the volume of the laptop by up to 10 dBa.
Never spray electronics evenly outside. Spray your rag to get it damp and then wipe it down. You never know if there might be some heavy droplet that gets into just the wrong place that you can't wipe off and seeps inside to the electronics.
From what I understand, standard compressed air has a high moisture content, and vacuuming caused static electricity, this is why they have canned compressed air forumlated to avoid both problems. Do they make moisture free air compressors for cleaning electronics?
G'day Major & Cooper, My brother's Golden Retrievers Porky & Crackle shed so much winter fur we had a Snowy White Christmas down here in Melbourne Australia even though it was 35°C, But they are so gorgeous 🐶🐶🥰
Thats why I dont care about super thin laptops anymore, the first thing that suffers is the cooling solution. Next thing is ease of maintenance, if a laptop is hard to open its difficult to clean and I was amazed how much dust gets in there after only a year... Noise is also a big problem with all laptops, my last cheap laptop git the " external Noctua fans mod" because I couldnt stand it. my new laptop also received some coolings mods to make it quiter and have the fans not work all the time...
I have to do this type of maintenance on my Desktop EVERY MONTH and it is WAY WORSE than what you had. I have a cat, with long hair, and I live in the woods, in an old house, and I smoke in my room, and this has been a house of indoor smokers my whole life..... it is ABSURD!!!!! We've had the central HVAC system cleaned out, but that didn't help (I think the guy didn't really do any anything tbh, just cleaned the vents, and didn't re-connect a few of the ducts in the attic... ugh.... this reminds me... it's been a month :(
1:45 I had an ASUS ROG Zephyrus M15 with a RTX 2070 Max-Q hooked up to a cooling pad and 32in 1440p monitor with some USB hubs mostly running a racing simulator. I used it for a year on performance mode before the fans got annoying and tried using silent mode. While it is playable, silent mode drops the performance a bit but the gsync monitor keeps things in check. Silent mode killed my laptop months later. I've upgraded to an M16 now and leave it on performace mode unless I'm on battery mode or not gaming since the fans don't really kick in on the games i play now.
You're going to want to pull the fans. They ram hair and dust up against the cooler fins and block flow. Imagine what you saw on the fan blades, but thicker.
My dude, I've been repairing laptops for a decade and watching this broke my heart: Never, EVER spray anything directly on your laptop. If it gets between the bezel and the LCD, the screen can get permanently damaged. If it drips into the keyboard, the keyboard can be destroyed. The higher-end ASUS/Zephyrus laptops frequently have specially-made LCDs that are ungodly expensive to replace (in some cases, you can't even get replacements); and the keyboard replacement usually requires replacing the whole palmrest, which is also ridiculously expensive. In short: when cleaning, always spray the product onto a microfiber cloth, then wipe with that. Do not spray the laptop. I can't overstate this. Edit: also, yeah, as others have stated you basically blew the dust from the fan blades into the heatsink fins. It may have improved things some but not as much as it should have. Hopefully you blew back through the fins to eject some of it. Ideally you'd take the whole HSF assembly off and apart to clean it. Clean the fans every couple months or so and you won't even need to take the case off since the dust will more easily disperse.
My only question is if you use a gas duster to clear out the fans does it actually blow the dust out the laptop or would it just blow it further into it🧐
EEK! This is why I clean my HP Omen every month. It's only got a 100 watt 3070 and a 60 watt 10750h. Boy does it get toasty though. So I keep it clean and even gave it some Kryonaut Extreme thermal paste 2 months back and actual correct size pads for the memory and power.(The pads made no contact on the GPU power delivery the first couple months I had it, because HP is dumb)
Un pequeño consejo. Debes sacar todo el sistema de enfriamiento sí quieres hacer un buen trabajo, en primer lugar, evitas un corto circuito, en segundo lugar no basta con limpiar las aspas, debe limpiar tambíen el disipado, la pasta térmica dura hasta 5 años sin ningún problema, pero hay opciones como thermal grizly que son mucho mejores que la pasta de fabrica.
About hospitals being boring - years ago my first wife was hospitalized for several days. She remarked "hospitals are boring" to which I replied, "and if you're lucky they stay that way."
With gaming laptops from my experience you should be cleaning out the cooling system every year especially in high dust environment. You should also disassemble further because I guarantee that there is some caked up dust inside it
dangerous. you need to disconnect the battery before performing full prevention. you just blew off the dust, and there was dust and cotton wool behind the radiator grilles. I recommend watching a laptop maintenance video on the internet
One of my laptops GPU fans actually offed itself after I swapped the vbios. To fix that I just switched to a better paste and got that 80 dollar laptop cooler everyones been getting recently.
I have not cleaned my laptop since I bought it in 2018 😬. I also do not use it much, I bought it for work but got a gaming one as I worked out of town 99.8% of the time.
can you do a video about fan silencers? there are a few interesting 3D printed designs out there I would be curious how much it affects airflow and also if there would be less dust accumulation especially with small fans it would be very useful to have something like that
2:57 i have this issue with my laptop ever since i started using it! my CPU goes up to 95 celcius aswell but my dad says everything is fine and thats how laptops works and how he is afraid to do anything because if we try to apply new thermopaste we might break something and brick my laptop and he dcoesn't want to pay dedicated people for that because its expensive??? when i plug in my wireless mouse and gamepad signal-catcher (whatever you call it) , and take it out, its like super warm and almost very hot
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I think you will need to remove the fans eventually, what usually happens is that the dust coalesces into a carpet over the inlet side of the fins. You can dislodge it temporarily by blowing in backwards, but the fan housing and the fan blades are too tight to allow the ball of dust to fly out, so you probably still have a ball of dust floating around inside your fan housings.
I agree 100% been fixing laptops for ever and I have to this to countless laptop's if tou have no airflow over those fins you have very bad cooling I have also noticed that even a layer on the cooling fins insulates it very well (hopefully you don't have a carpet in there!)
agreed. I always separate the fan housings to get the mat of dust out on the intake side of the fins. I usually use a bit of aluminum HVAC tape where necessary to seal and route air for improved thermals, and of course always repaste along with increasing/insuring even heatsink pressure across the CPU.
Yeah, I just cleaned my grandson's laptop and the intakes had the equivalent of a felt pad blocking them. The air must flow. 🙂
I came here to make this comment .. he should have took the fans out of the system to clean correctly :D
..exactly. Its also easier clean the fans themselves usually, and its like three screws per fan...
Hello, to do it right you must absolutely dismantle the fans and remove the dust from the fins of the heatsinks. I also advise against spraying the cleaning liquid directly on the screen: it can run and infiltrate the different sheets of the LCD panel. You should spray a cleaning gel (it exists) or simply spray the liquid on the cloth and not on the panel.
ive been spraying directly on the screen of my 2011 dell laptop since it was new, and it's perfect. the whole thing about cleaner on screens was from old TFTs and such. i own 4 laptops and direct spray on them all the time. same with my desktop screens. been doing it over 20 years, zero issues.
@@ghomerhust I don't see the point of your answer. It was an advice. I am not interested in your life experience. I ruined a screen like that.
@@ghomerhust watch linus tech tips colab with electro boom, where they tested if an electric discharge could damage PC components. After many tests and ultra worst case scenarios they managed to damage a single RAM chip. Despite that, nearly all techs that work with PCBAs are wearing anti static bands or other grounding equipment.
Just because it didnt happen on the small sample size, doesnt mean it cant happen, and precaughtions (especially the simple ones of applying it to the towel) are much cheaper than replacing parts.
@@ghomerhust Try that with a 2016+ MacBook Pro and see what happens.
@@ghomerhust you know your screen is TFT, right?
Check the inside of the cooling fin stack. Dust bunnies always accumulate there and prevent good airflow over the fins.
I was thinking the same, there definitely is a much better way to clean it....
I cringed SO hard when you sprayed cleaner directly on the screens. Having had the misfortune of messing up a client's screen cleaning it like you did, I've started spraying cleaner on the rag and wiping. This keeps excess fluids from creeping around the screen edges and getting into the innards. Just an FYI from someone who's has to pay the price.
I was a PC tech for 14 years. You might be surprised how many systems I’ve fixed just by cleaning them out. I had one from an insurance company that I had gotten 11 ounces of dust in the minivac before I even fired up the compressor.
i’m so sorry to bother you, but i’ve been searching all over and can’t find an answer to a particularly odd issue.. i’ve had my laptop for 5yrs and never had one single problem until recently, literally overnight it started making a weird rattling or rumbling noise, checked my cpu temp in UEFI/BIOS and watched it quickly go from 40°c to 73°c within minutes (i wasn’t gaming or running anything else) all while my cpu fan remained around 774rpm the entire time..? i’m sure if i hadn’t turned it off immediately the temp would’ve kept rising with the cpu fan doing less than 800rpm, ultimately frying itself…
oddly enough, besides all that my laptop seems to be acting like everything is perfectly fine… no lagging, no slow speeds, runs everything normally, boots up and runs everything fast and efficiently, doesn’t shut itself down or throttle or anything… but the noise is persistent (it’s always been silent) it’s like it doesn’t know that it’s cooking itself to death!
again i’m truly sorry to bother you! you absolutely don’t have to reply, i don’t want to waste your time! but if you have any piece of advice or direction to point me in, i would genuinely appreciate that so, so much
i can’t tell if “all of a sudden” it realized it’s super clogged with dust (i say that because this seriously happened SO out of the blue with zero prior warning signs, i feel like i would’ve noticed performance issues if it was accumulation of dust?) or a damaged heat sink/fan failure that needs replacing, or perhaps a motherboard issue or something to do with the thermal paste?
i’ve barely run my laptop at all since this happened, only to briefly check the cpu temp/fan speeds and to boot up one game to see how/if it would perform (it was running for maybe 5-10mins, i shut everything off before temps got into the danger zone, yet it still ran beautifully somehow)
i’m truly at a loss, i’m sorry for overexplaining but i’m not sure which pieces of information can be helpful to crack this mystery! please don’t feel obligated to respond, if you’ve come this far and read all my anxious ramblings, thank you, i truly appreciate that in itself!!
(oops, editing to mention that i have a 2019 ASUS ROG Zephyrus G15, model GA502DU with AMD Ryzen 7, 3750H, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 with SSD)
@@leahvigs The rattle noise is somewhat alarming. If I were to make an educated guess, I might say one of your heat sink fan sets came loose or (and this is probably what it is) take a flashlight and long nose tweezers and peek inside your fan vents. Sounds like something could be blocking a vent or slowing a fan.
Otherwise use compressed air and try to clear it out before disassembly.
@@leahvigs there are amazing RUclips tutorials on how to disassemble laptops. I would recommend doing a Google search for “ASUS model GA502DU” and look for a video.
Just getting the cover off of any laptop can be a tedious and delicate process.
Take your time.
As soon as you see metal plating inside, touch it to equalize your body voltage to the laptop circuitry.
You will need a small screwdriver set and ether a prying kit or plastic putty knife to pry apart parts without damaging your beautiful laptop.
I wish you the best of luck friend.
I would love to see what the temps would have become if you repasted as well and a even more thorough clean.
By how the fans looked, you definitely needed to remove the fans. I bet you have a what essentially is a carpet of gunk lodged against the fins of the cooler. My son's laptop was throttling agresively as well and the fans looked half as bad as yours but the fins were completely clogged.
Have seen it myself.
3:17 You should apply the cleaning fluid to your rag, not your device. Cleaning fluids that work well with electronics will not have alcohol (may destroy your display) or waxes (leave a build up).
You just explained every single problem that i have been facing with my flow x13. OMG, I’ll try cleaning the fans first thing tomorrow and will be back with an update. Thanks man! ❤
You my guy, the best! My laptop was super messy and had fan full of dust. It was hard to see the fans but now it’s working smooth af ❤
I have tried this approach on an old 2008 laptop, and it helped a little bit, but upon taking the fans and stuff out and apart, there is waaaaaaaaay more dust in the fin stacks than there is in the fans and cleaning the heatsink itself will result in much better results
Tip on cleaning laptop coolers, and blower style gpu.
Always start by blowing into the heatsink, opposite the direction of the traditional flow.
This is by far the easiest way to clean out the heatsink. Now in this case alot of the dust was caught on the fan, in most cases the fan will be cleaned out good at the same time.
I especially see this when people clean out blower style gpus again and again they will force the dust trough the heatsink, the way it got stuck and then complain its much harder to clean than axiel style gpu.
I had a laptop that was slowing down considerably. When I opened it up to clean the fans, the packed dust and cat hair had to be pulled out in solid chunks. I’d initially thought it was a charcoal filter of some kind. 😄😄
same as my ex partners laptop.... couldn't even run youtube 720p vids with out pausing ....... big black hair/dust lumps in the sink fins....
One of my wife's coworkers had a laptop that was "broken", it was constantly locking up. The fan didn't look THAT dirty, but once I removed it, I pulled a mat of hair off of the cooler. I went ahead and pulled the cooler and found another mat of hair between the cooler and exit vents on the laptop.
After that clean up and re-paste, no more lockups. Imagine that.
just for future reference. when cleaning off a laptop keyboard or screen, you want to spray the cloth, then wipe. not spray the laptop. squirting water over electronics and letting it form beads that can drip down into sensitive parts is no bueno
Seeing how the fans were as bad as they where more than likely ur cooling fins are clogged as well, might want to clear them out anyway to get a little more cooling. but that's just my opinion, better safe than sorry
Definitely a good idea.
The thermals should have been better after cleaning it.
The thing is a lot of us do not have the confidence/experience to do that. We know its a best practice, but since we know so little about laptops and since laptop parts are not as easy to find (if we break something), the most many of us are willing to do is blow air into the cooling fins. A horror story from one of my friends, he tried to do a deep clean of his laptop, first time he tried this, looked up videos, thought he understood the process. To take apart the fans he needed to wedge something carefully to take apart the plastic fan housing, well, he snapped three of the plastic holders, now his fan housing doesn't close properly and is permanently making odd noises. It works yes, but this is just how easily someone with little to no experience can mess this up. We may know enough to blow compressed air, perhaps hold the fan so it doesn't spin, hell some of us might even disconnect the battery. But doing a DEEP clean requires a certain level of understanding that most of us do not have, especially with laptop hardware where there is little room for error.
I always clean my laptop weekly by blowing into them to avoid opening up the fans. If you let it sit for too long, you should clean it by opening fans too.
Just a temp solution, more like monthly maintenance.
After two years really needs the full fan out and clean fan and fin stack with a brush along with a re-paste of CPU and GPU to get it back like new.
I wish you would have put some new thermal paste. Thermal Grizzly is awesome. I think most of us like to see that. I’m glad you put out another video tho. Happy New Year!!!
This video reminds me I need to get a powered duster to clean out my PC. Thanks.
Hello!
Just a quick tip:
I also use an Asus laptop and from my experience the "performance" setting in armoury crate makes the CPU and GPU perform well but keeps cooling to a normal level.
If you use "Turbo" mode it just cranks the fans to the max and has no limit on cooling. (Turbo is available only when plugged in and charging).
You should try "Turbo" mode in armoury crate and check the thermals again. :)
That shit is loud af
You just reminded me that i am more than overdue for some cleaning on my laptop
I'm super curious now to see the temp differences between the blowout and repasting/cleaning the heatsinks now. After two years the paste could probably use a refresh with something like Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a follow up video with a repaste.
I was actually surprised how harmless it was. Every checked a Graphics card from an household of a heavy smoker? That looks 10 times worse, and the black gunk can also not be removed by just spraying some air on it.
I should do this but I'm a bit scared to open mine up. I did it before and had a heck of a time because the screws were in metal inserts but the inserts were put in very thin plastic tubes that had broken from the force of opening and closing the lid :/
I was not happy when I found how cheaply it was made...
I just cleaned out my laptop I bought back in 2018 this summer. It's crazy how much dust builds up in there after a few years. I had to fully remove my fans because the exhaust side was plugged up.
The heat sink! There is still hair caught between the fan (exit) and the heatsink fins. This can be a huge ball and still restrict, the best you can do it is to unscrew the fan and clean the fins. Still no compounding but soooo helpful.
I would strongly recommend that you remove the fans and make sure that you don't have any dust built up between the fan and the heat sinks, and you'll get much better temps with a repaste with some good thermal paste, noctua, Arctic, thermal grizzly kryonaut, etc
Ive had 4 gaming laptops and never repasted them, how do you repaste it? just smear the past on the copper colored cooling things?
Might I suggest vauuming the debri first and THEN blow it out? By just blowing it out, you are only shoving debri further into your system, and by vacuuming first, you remove all but the smallest particles.
Wow, with that tight of blade spacing, I think I know why my parent's asus has slowed down...
Thank you!
(I am though, also suspicious of the thermal paste based on your previous video).
full repaste & deep clean pls, just cause it's cool to watch
I thought you gave me enough brave to clean my laptop. Thanks for your video.
I have the 3080ti version of this and recently it's struggling to perform. This might be what's happening to me I guess..good to see this video gives me hope I can solve the issue. It's constantly throttling when temps get up. I just thought maybe it was something else surely the dust couldn't cause it to perform so bad
Loved the video!! You actually got me to clean out my 6 year old MSI GE72VR Laptop (running a 1060).....for the very first time. I was SOOOOO surprised how clean it was.... almost no dust at all...Makes no sense to me how that's possible. Its been on 5 deployments (2 to the desert) and we have 4 cats at home.......Mind blown. Needless to say if I ever replace it ill be getting another MSI.
Check out Asus' boost settings, I have a G14 and in the Windows power plan it sets it to boost at max power. It would get too hot and throttle, once I backed it off the difference was night and day. Combined with a deep clean should be better than new.
When holding the fan to blow it out, blow from the sides and in first and last to clean the heat sink as it usually is a whole carpet between the fan and heat sink fins.
Shorter, blow in air at the hot air exit and back flush it all
@2:50 This looks like the interior fans and airflow are not working properly... You should clear all fans and paths of air flow every 6 months or so per computer for optimal Cooling...
Mines was really bad too. i'm so glad I cleaned them recently
5:00 You... you don't blow it out monthly...? What is wrong with you :x
6:10 You need to take the fans off and clean in front of the fins... they are likely blocked with dust and debris as well...
Eventually the whole heatsink, repaste, thermal pad replacement and also if you wanted to, you can get packs of copper shims of various thickness and thermal tape. Placing copper shims on the top of the heatpipes help draw more heat out. I have also seen flat copper heatsink tubes available to custom or add more pipes to the current heat sink. I had to do this on a couple of graphics cards and laptops with very weak heatsinks to save them from frying
I have a Zenbook 15 Pro and my desktop is a Noctua only so I'm used to silent PCs. My solution for the performance mode is to use headphones (DT770 in my case), that way the fans do their job without annoying me.
Throttle stop always helps too! Undervolting saves my work laptop
@4:04 Always open the case, and if necessary, separate the fans and clean them individually.. Then re-install... The fans are delicate. so be very careful..... A can of compressed air for computers is all you need, but never tip it from vertical up and down, too tilted horizontal max as you find places you need to blow into...., or the liquid wont have time to become a gas and will come out as a liquid...... the liquid that decompresses into gas is liquid if you tilt the can, and you don't want liquid shorting out, into your computer.. always keep the can straight up and down as you use it...
I set my armoury crate fan curve to run at high rpm during medium temperatures. (They speed up sooner)
A cool feature is also the led keyboard changes colors based on the temperatures. You can see my keys change colors from green orange to red while also the fan speeds up.
I’ve got the 2022 G15. It’s an awesome laptop! First gaming PC, and I’m thinking of going full desktop in the next year or so.
You really should replace thermal paste with like mx4 or gelid extreme, paste especially the factory ones are really bad even worse after 2yrs.... Also replace the thermal pads with better ones will give you that edge of higher boosts and better frames 🎞️
I just watched a man clean his laptop and to everyones surprise, it ran better. Just kidding, love your vids and ill watch every one you post
I got the 2023 version and I use it for Unreal 5, Substance Painter, Blender, and all my game development. I use the second screen for all my shaders and color palettes and also for watching tutorials when working it's fucking amazing. This is not the best for playing games I mean you can but it is for professionals who are making games on the go :) If you are not a game developer or a 3d artist on the go I don't think this is the laptop for you. Be sure to always keep this thing clean tho, never let it get this dirty.
Sooo glad I came across this video because you and your channel are perfect for this. What if you either 3d printed a custom back or modified the original to accommodate a slim 140 like the Arctic P14 slim to provide additional cooling.
It still needs a repaste and a bit deeper clean I did on mine and it dropped another 12c below yours
I never had an ROG laptop last longer than 6 months due to thermal throttling and then frying the motherboard. To me, they are glorified paperweights after going through 5 of them. Had my alienware 2 years with no issues, no throttling or thermal issues.
Clean your laptop, got it. Happy new year!
Once a year I will have a "tech day" where I clean out my girl and I's desktops and laptops. I also usually do a repaste if anything looks crusty and address any hardware issues that come to light. I am also one of those weirdos that kind of looks forward to it.
Great video. This is a must for most people that own gaming laptops
After 2 years well worth replacing the thermal compound when you eventually do get I there, it will just be crumbly mush. Should net you a few more degrees as well.
I have found that the compressed air is not enough. Dust builds up between the fan and heatsink and looks like a piece of felt is stuck between them. If you have more issues, I suggest removing the fans and cleaning the heatsink with a brush or something. Also new thermal paste might lower the temp a few deg, the stock thermal paste is not the best most of the time.
i use my computer tower as a foot rest most of the time, i'm doing it right now in fact. once or twice a year it starts blue screening, after a reeboot the CPU temp is usually around 43c/110f, that's how i know that it's time to take it out to the garage and blow the dirt out of it. i've never bothered to hold the fans or anything, i just let it buck.
I recently repasted my Asus ROG Strict G15. It came from a bad batch prior to June 2021, so even having liquid metal it went hot as hell for no reason. And I couldn't really explain, because the laptop is great. It was my work laptop and recently I bought the latest model with a R9 6900 instead of the R7 5800 the work one had, and it was easy colder and silent. So I repasted it correctly (first time lm tho) both cpu and gpu on lm and it's amazing.
Yo Maj, directly next to the fans that you cleaned off is a piece of black tape. Under the black tape is a heatsink finstack. The tape acts as a duct to force the air in the fan to exit through the fins. Now you gotta pull up that tape and get all the rest of the dust that you blew into it, otherwise the rig will be back to 100% clogged in a few weeks.
Easier said than done for some. I've a Dell G5 SE and upgrading the thermal paste was a must, a long with moding the cooling system, locking the BIOS to a older version (1.4.4) in order to get the best performance out of it.
How’s that old Alienware doing the one you got from your friend? I absolutely love videos of Liquid Metal applications it’s fun to see the absolute limit that devices can be pushed.
I had to recently open up the fan casing on my gaming laptop. It had built up dust like felt. It was completely blocking dust air flow.
Normally I would go in and blow it out but because it built up the dust so badly. It dropped my temp by 30c.
Replacing your TIM wouldn’t be a bad idea either. Some folks are reselling PTM7900-series PCM sheets. It’s what Lenevo has been using starting with 2021 models.
Replacing the thermal paste with a PTM7950 will be the best thing that can be done. It is possible to see up to 15°C less temperature on the GPU in games compared to Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut paste. Adding undervolting can reduce the volume of the laptop by up to 10 dBa.
Never spray electronics evenly outside. Spray your rag to get it damp and then wipe it down. You never know if there might be some heavy droplet that gets into just the wrong place that you can't wipe off and seeps inside to the electronics.
You may also want to replace the thermal paste. After a couple years it can dry out and replacing it will go a long way
From what I understand, standard compressed air has a high moisture content, and vacuuming caused static electricity, this is why they have canned compressed air forumlated to avoid both problems. Do they make moisture free air compressors for cleaning electronics?
I had to do that on my Alienware laptop. For me it was as much the cooler all stuffed with dust as it was the fans.
My gaming laptop sounds like an F16 taking off at full afterburner.
Ah yes 4:20am and my favourite chad fan tester posts a video 🗿🍷
G'day Major & Cooper,
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Thats why I dont care about super thin laptops anymore, the first thing that suffers is the cooling solution. Next thing is ease of maintenance, if a laptop is hard to open its difficult to clean and I was amazed how much dust gets in there after only a year...
Noise is also a big problem with all laptops, my last cheap laptop git the " external Noctua fans mod" because I couldnt stand it. my new laptop also received some coolings mods to make it quiter and have the fans not work all the time...
i wonder how much dust and junk there is on the radiator part near the fan... if that gets cloged it starts tu get fun
I have to do this type of maintenance on my Desktop EVERY MONTH and it is WAY WORSE than what you had. I have a cat, with long hair, and I live in the woods, in an old house, and I smoke in my room, and this has been a house of indoor smokers my whole life..... it is ABSURD!!!!!
We've had the central HVAC system cleaned out, but that didn't help (I think the guy didn't really do any anything tbh, just cleaned the vents, and didn't re-connect a few of the ducts in the attic... ugh....
this reminds me... it's been a month :(
1:45 I had an ASUS ROG Zephyrus M15 with a RTX 2070 Max-Q hooked up to a cooling pad and 32in 1440p monitor with some USB hubs mostly running a racing simulator. I used it for a year on performance mode before the fans got annoying and tried using silent mode. While it is playable, silent mode drops the performance a bit but the gsync monitor keeps things in check. Silent mode killed my laptop months later. I've upgraded to an M16 now and leave it on performace mode unless I'm on battery mode or not gaming since the fans don't really kick in on the games i play now.
I took my whole computer apart cleaned everything and then changed the case just to make sure it got freshened up.
That's why I clean my laptop and repaste it every 6 months minimum.. cuz my old laptop was like this and that was 3 years of not opening it
AAAAHHHHhhhhhhhh... Please spray the cloth in the future and then wipe it down...
The world is a sad and improperly ventilated place without your videos.
higly recommend to use the ITES GT500 foro fresh filtered cool air - the one and only cooling pad you should own!
You're going to want to pull the fans. They ram hair and dust up against the cooler fins and block flow. Imagine what you saw on the fan blades, but thicker.
My dude, I've been repairing laptops for a decade and watching this broke my heart:
Never, EVER spray anything directly on your laptop. If it gets between the bezel and the LCD, the screen can get permanently damaged. If it drips into the keyboard, the keyboard can be destroyed. The higher-end ASUS/Zephyrus laptops frequently have specially-made LCDs that are ungodly expensive to replace (in some cases, you can't even get replacements); and the keyboard replacement usually requires replacing the whole palmrest, which is also ridiculously expensive.
In short: when cleaning, always spray the product onto a microfiber cloth, then wipe with that. Do not spray the laptop. I can't overstate this.
Edit: also, yeah, as others have stated you basically blew the dust from the fan blades into the heatsink fins. It may have improved things some but not as much as it should have. Hopefully you blew back through the fins to eject some of it. Ideally you'd take the whole HSF assembly off and apart to clean it. Clean the fans every couple months or so and you won't even need to take the case off since the dust will more easily disperse.
"Got time off work" ...
Yeah... The company told us 3 days prior to shutting the theater down.
I've had time off work for sure...
My only question is if you use a gas duster to clear out the fans does it actually blow the dust out the laptop or would it just blow it further into it🧐
You will probably see even lower temps if you clean the heatsinks since thats where most of the dust collected
sad maintenance is never part of the design, wish gpus also had a hinged front with just case fans would be so much easier
EEK! This is why I clean my HP Omen every month. It's only got a 100 watt 3070 and a 60 watt 10750h. Boy does it get toasty though. So I keep it clean and even gave it some Kryonaut Extreme thermal paste 2 months back and actual correct size pads for the memory and power.(The pads made no contact on the GPU power delivery the first couple months I had it, because HP is dumb)
needs disassembling and blasting with contact cleaner, it will dissolve the dust and goo off the heatsinks, your thermals will go back to stock.
Un pequeño consejo.
Debes sacar todo el sistema de enfriamiento sí quieres hacer un buen trabajo, en primer lugar, evitas un corto circuito, en segundo lugar no basta con limpiar las aspas, debe limpiar tambíen el disipado, la pasta térmica dura hasta 5 años sin ningún problema, pero hay opciones como thermal grizly que son mucho mejores que la pasta de fabrica.
Those fans have a ridiculous number of blades. I have concerns about rotor solidity with that very many closely spaced blades.
I did this but It was 4 years of owning the laptop and I dropped 30c from just cleaning and repasting 💀
because you didn't take it apart further I bet you do need to repaste it and there is still a lot of hair and dust on the MB causing heat build up
Betting 100 bucks there's still a thick layer of dust before the fins. You need to open the fans housing.
You still need to take out the heatsink and clean the intake where the fins are because you cant clean them by blowing air trough the fans
About hospitals being boring - years ago my first wife was hospitalized for several days. She remarked "hospitals are boring" to which I replied, "and if you're lucky they stay that way."
With gaming laptops from my experience you should be cleaning out the cooling system every year especially in high dust environment. You should also disassemble further because I guarantee that there is some caked up dust inside it
dangerous. you need to disconnect the battery before performing full prevention. you just blew off the dust, and there was dust and cotton wool behind the radiator grilles. I recommend watching a laptop maintenance video on the internet
you nneded to clean out the heatsink grills as well
One of my laptops GPU fans actually offed itself after I swapped the vbios. To fix that I just switched to a better paste and got that 80 dollar laptop cooler everyones been getting recently.
I have not cleaned my laptop since I bought it in 2018 😬. I also do not use it much, I bought it for work but got a gaming one as I worked out of town 99.8% of the time.
can you do a video about fan silencers?
there are a few interesting 3D printed designs out there
I would be curious how much it affects airflow and also if there would be less dust accumulation
especially with small fans it would be very useful to have something like that
2:57 i have this issue with my laptop ever since i started using it! my CPU goes up to 95 celcius aswell but my dad says everything is fine and thats how laptops works and how he is afraid to do anything because if we try to apply new thermopaste we might break something and brick my laptop and he dcoesn't want to pay dedicated people for that because its expensive???
when i plug in my wireless mouse and gamepad signal-catcher (whatever you call it) , and take it out, its like super warm and almost very hot
Bro had one cooper. Little did he know, he had another cooper inside his laptop. One could say his laptop was pregnant