The Real Story of Hitler in Argentina...
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2023
- Explore the gripping tale of Hitler's 'survival', debunked by historians. Discover origins, speculations, and why we're drawn to such theories.
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Seeing Simon in a t-shirt is like seeing your teacher at the grocery store
I love it. Its so chill and laid back
Now try to imagine seeing him without that epic beard! RUclips might actually EXPLODE if such a thing ever happened! lol
@@jacob4920go to google and search “Simon whistler 2016” and go to images. Your welcome.
Right? We all got a ticket to the gun show today!
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I think this is the first time I've ever seen Simon's arms
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I honestly think you might be right
It's kinda weird
Casual Decoding The Unknown
I think there were a few other times but the beard is distracting
The part about the skull top you had wrong, they claimed it was his but when tested it was revealed to be the skull of a much younger woman. When that discovery was made the Russians abruptly took the skull top back and it hasn't been examined by anyone since.
dude probably just got an unmarked grave between some bomb victims, and the soviet army didn't want to come home "empty handed".
Or the soldiers "interfered" with the body after finding out who it was,
but replaced it cause no one believes you that Hitler shot himself 20 more times, long after dying...
I feel like this show doesn't stray from the party line very much. The whole skull thing is pretty widely known and it seems pretty deliberate to leave it out. I get that this is supposed to be his first read but someone should atleasr fact check the stories.
@@Spectre-wd9dlThe skull part wasn't in the "story" though, it was just Simon spitballing and guessing where the script was going. The script itself never mentioned the skull, only the lower jaw, which WAS confirmed to be authentic.
@@GavinGaileit was not confirmed to be his. It was a young aged woman’s
I believe I read that the DNA was tested in 2007 and proved to be female. This is why the whole...Hitler escaped narrative has resurfaced in recent years...literally errybody knows this....how you and your writer danced around that is either complicity or ignorance that left out the best way to tell/end the story...what gives? Party line comment...yeah I noticed myself...it's often infuriating when he discusses WW1/2 Germany...it's as if he suffered at the hands of the evil Germans himself! Yet never mentions any of the questionable shyte the allies did like Brittain bombing French shops, more Frenchmen dead in German uniform than French...maybe this should be pursued abit to explain the 6 week collapse of France? IDK not to tangent but I try to be a natural skeptic on everything while always touting Socrates great wisdom....i am not smart, but if I know any 1 thing that you don't know it's this: I know I'm not smart....you believe you are! Simon clearly needs to study his Socrates....the ego of ol big brain....self proclaimed....lol....is out of control....better to learn the facts of fewer things than be surface level on most major events, my 2 cents
The skull the Soviets had isn't Hitler's. They ran a DNA test and it was female. We have no idea if it was Eva and they just grabbed the wrong skull, because Eva's family refused to provide dna for comparison
True, the lower jaw was Hitler's.
If you look up how they studied the jaw, they were comparing to descriptions given to them by Russia. The only xray, which claimed to be taken in 1944, was also provided by Russia. The claim was he shot himself in the mouth, but there was no gunpowder residue on the teeth, yet cyanide was still on the teeth. The people studying the teeth said they could only look at them for a short time and couldn't do a full report, but they appear to be a match, if you believe the information provided by Russia. Let's be honest, Russia has never been honest about anything, I'm not going to start believing them now. Especially when they swore the skull was his, and it clearly wasn't. Now, that doesn't mean he went to Argentina either. He was probably captured by the Soviets which is why they had a vested interest in telling the world he went to South America then, and convincing the world today that he died in the bunker. Both the US and Russia captured dozens of Nazis and hid it from the world. Von Braun is the guy that got the US to the moon, and he was a card carrying member of the Nazi party.
@@benmoore2112 Oh god, another one. Fuck's sake.
Even if we completely disregard every single thing the Russians said, there were literally dozens of people present at his death (normally I disregard things such as 'witness testimony', but here it can't be ignored), many of whom died decades later (the last, Rochus Misch, died in 2013) and they all maintained the same consistent account, even long, long after they were out of Russian hands when they would've had no reason to maintain any sort of charade. Which brings us to the first problem with your shit - the same exact problem with every retarded conspiracy that would require literally dozens if not hundreds of people to maintain it - it would be impossible. Eventually someone would blab.
He clearly would have rather killed himself rather than be put on trial, and especially rather than risk being taken by the Russians and everything they would do to him (the fear was only augmented upon hearing what an angry Italian crowd did to Mussolini, hence Hitler's order to destroy his own body).
Also, and this is rhetorical, but I always found it odd that conspiracy nuts have no problem accepting the suicides of all the other high-ranking Nazi leadership.
I've never seen anyone deny how Görring, or Goebbels (whose remains were, like Hitler's, burnt to ashes), Bormann, or Himmler died.
I've never seen anyone deny Philip Bouhler's death by cyanide capsule, or Josef Terboven blowing himself to smithereens with dynamite. Or a denial of how Krebs and Berghdorf died (they likewise shot themselves in the Führerbunker). So how is Hitler somehow different? What, he's the leader so it's different for him?
Also, your comment on how Hitler shot himself in the mouth, where the fuck did you get that from? According to Heinz Linge's testimony it was in the temple (it would be rather hard to do so in the mouth since Hitler was clamping a cyanide capsule in his jaw).
Also Also, it would make no fucken sense for the Russians to maintain any such ruse for eighty fucken years, long after everything is over and nothing matters anymore (such as how so many secret Soviet documents were declassified after the USSR collapsed).
Mistrusting a people is one thing, understandable with those who have a general history of misinformation, but that's no excuse for flat-out bullshit that common sense and a basic knowledge of history disproves right away. There's a difference between reasonable doubt and denialism because you're based.
And as for your last point, every Nazi who was captured - even those supposedly hidden - WE NOW FUCKING KNOW ABOUT. You literally contradicted your own point with Von Braun, since we now, in today's day and age, know about him.
@@benmoore2112 yeah no he didnt survive. The skull wasnt hitlers becuase the bodies in the gardens were likely plants with Hitler and Evas dental work put in their mouths. However multiple high ranking nazis who were in the bunker who were captured said thay hitler died but they will never find his body. I forgot the exact person but he was held in soviet captivity for years and till his dying day said the spviets did not have his body but he was indeed dead. Hitler was the most recognizable person on the world even if his head was shaven, he also had advanced parkinsons theres no way he could have escaped a surrounded Berlin in his state.
Take a look at the channel Mark Felton Productions, he has a short series on the search for Hitler. The bodies found in the garden on the fuhrerbunker were not those of Hitler and Braun. One of them had an amputation below the knee and the other had died of a shrapnel wound to the chest.
I believe that Hitler and Braun killed themselves but that they were hurriedly buried in secret somewhere in easy reach of the fuhrerbunker so that their bodies could not fall into Soviet hands,
I dare say we need a channel called “Tangents.” Simon tells stories from his life, reads letters from unhinged fans, read letters from hinged fans, and of course we need Danny’s hometown stories. It would be a blast. Allegedly.
Finally, someone in the comments who gets it! We come here for the tangents. I would watch "Tangents," every single upload.
He'd have a reason to save outtakes from his more serious channels then too, take those and put them out once a month as special compilation videos on the Tangents channel, that way we could see the tangents we dont see.
Yes! I would watch the hell out of that. Start the petition.
Edit: 'Tangents' is a good name. But, if it's unavailable for any reason, I'd suggest something to the effect of "Tales from the Whistlerverse."
Each writer submits a few sentences and see if they can predict the direction he'll go.
Yes… it’s called blain braze
I live in Argentina. Haven't seen him yet. I'll keep my eyes open.
😂 thank you for your service.
keep us posted
he was smuggled into Canada in 79
He's right there. See him. Sitting there with Elvis.
The biggest issue I have with the whole "Hitler escaped to Argentia" idea is that he would be well enough to do so. The bastard was in terrible health. Slow, shuffling, left hand behind his back twitching and twirling from Parkinson's, suffering from intense withdrawal after kicking out his supplier...I mean doctor, and the general stress of sucking so bad at commanding an army had left him an old man before his time. He was a fifty something year old that moved around like he was seventy.
Based on his health he wouldn’t have lived for very long if he somehow made it out of Germany.
He was 56 at the time, to be exact. And some speculate the hand twitching may have actually been him tweaking (Hitler was taking meth up to 20 times a day, I think).
@@nl3064 The meth injections and cocaine eye drops were not helping, this is true.
@@nl3064 hitler was supposedly on a gambit of drugs but he wasn’t allegedly taking meth 20 times a day per his “doctor”. He was a pow . I’ve heard speculation that he was poisoning Hitler and also some historians state he was not. Not to mention modern doctors generally will not diagnose without seeing the patient. This is a guesstimate based on what we know and can see.
@@nl3064 plus he would be twitching more than likely all over and potentially picking his skin. It wouldn’t be just his arm. The Parkinson’s is a guess by doctors based on symptoms and his own doctor’s written diagnosis aka charting from the time.
I was born in a small town in Brazil with a high number of German and German descendants, a lot of Nazi soldiers and officers went there after the war, one was even accused of being that disappeared Nazi High Officer (Martin Borgman if I remember correctly) even the Federal Police went there to check, but he was to young to be him. There are even legends that Hitler hid there a few weeks before going to Argentina
His name was actually Martin Bormann.
It's even funnier knowing that there's a 0% chance Simon would have seen The Big Lebowski. 😂
This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps
That was bar none the best part of the episode lmao
I wish I could give this a million likes.
Yeah, he didn't even flinch.
Is this your homework Larry!?!
Shut the front door Donny@@seanwallace79
If you have a general idea of the war in general, some of the military decisions; Hitler was very much a "No step back!" " We're only losing because my generals are cowards who aren't trying hard enough, we can still win" kind of leader. So yeah, him holding on till the Soviets are literally in Berlin and then blowing his brains out rather than being captured does fit his general pattern of behaviour, which alone makes the official history quite plausible.
this sounds strangely similar to a current war and what do you know its against the same opponent
well i watched em shoot bin ladin and take the time to put his boddy on a ship bound for the u.s. and then throw his body in the ocean for absolutely no fuckin reason at all...... now why did they do that? because bin ladins father and prescot bush were buisness partners...... bin ladin did his fuckin job and they staged his death.... this idea that the government is your friend and would never lie to you is absurd.... its a coping mechnanism for how fuckin horrible life realy is.... its also a survival instinct that will make you willing to lick a demons chocolate starfish in hopes that he kills you last... hitler didnt die... he layed the foundation for isreal.... there would be no isreal without him..... i want you to take the time to read the "transfer agreement of 1933" its where the word NAZI comes from... ya see hitlers party (NA) and the zionist party (ZI) merged.... what are zionists? extreemist jews buddy.... they couldnt have an isreal because it was forbidden in their scripture... they had to slaughter 6 million orthodox jews to get it... thats what hitler did.... henry ford, amtrak, walt disney..... america hand their hands all over it from the very beginning... we built his fucking railways for christs sakes..... we knew godamn well what those concentration camps were... we paid for them.....
I mean when the meth hits different you go all out
Also letting Eva suffer through excruciating pain via poison rather than having the balls to face murder up close. What a dbag of course he'd also make a dumbass mistake and instruct inept people to burn him. I'm over the topic of hitler as much as trump, Argentina is welcome to Tbag if they're still accepting criminals..
@@Fadaar will be nice to see Putin face a similar fate
The sad truth about the "24-year-old captain and his even younger crew": He was probably just the oldest marine left, when the sub left the docks. After all, war always kills the young men of your nation first.
His higher ups were busy in Nuremberg.😂
They were forcing underage boys, into the military by this time
Well done, Simon and Arnaldo. By a strange coincidence, historian Dr. Mark Felton (who knows a lot more about this stuff than the History Channel) uploaded a very similar video today about Hitler's final hours and the Soviet investigation afterwards, built on solid real-world research. I highly recommend that video for anyone who wants more information on this topic.
Another person of culture 🤝
I would second that recommendation. Mark Felton's channel is exceptional.
Can also recommend.
Don't ever rely on one source,they and only commenting on documents found,sometimes science say a lot different, like the remains of Martin Bormann. Do not think for a minute, that AH did not have an exit plan,all dictators do, Mugabe was half way into his,when he was told it was safe to return,same with that idiot in Turkey!
Me too
As a Frenchman (partial anyway) living in Austria, who has always been "fascinated" by food, I feel uniquely qualified to comment on this very serious issue:
While it is true the Austrians have invented the proto-croissant, as they did with the cappucino, the Kipferl, is a completely different beast to the modern croissant. The dough is more like regular bread, it had the basic shape of the croissaint. But the dough is completely different. The French Kipferl, is made with much more butter. It has that soft cloud like buttery texture, that manages to create the highest calorie to density ratio known to man. A single croissant has as many calories as an entire baguette. It feels very light but anyone on a diet should choose a Kipferl over a croissant (sigh).
Don’t worry, no one cares about Austrian croissants. No one cares about Belgian fries. Plus, most of America doesn’t know where Australia and their supposed croissants even are. And as for fries, well if such a place as Berlin or Belgium or whatever even actually exists, it doesn’t matter because the fries are very definitely French. It’s in the name.
The expression "kipferl" refers to the form = crescent moon. The shape is reminiscent of the second Turkish siege of Vienna (1683) because of the crescent moon in the Turkish flag. The French "croissant" is also called "Butterkipferl" in Austria but "croissant" is more common. At Christmas time we eat "Vanillekipferl", then there are the "Linzer Kipferl", the "Nusskipferl" (nut crescend) and a few others. The "croissant" that was exported to France is called "Mürbes Kipferl" (crumbly crescend) and is more reminiscent of brioche than regular white bread.
Nazi lies!!
@@MissMentats How do you manage to write a comment that's at the same time so insulting and so dismissive, all while making it impossible to gauge if you're being sincere or sarcastic?
Like... are you being dismissive of Americans for being ignorant, or are you an American sincerely telling us we should shut up about our national pride already because the national pride of the US *is* being ignorant? Do you sincerely not know that Austria isn't Australia or is that a spoof? It's just, that joke has been so done to death, I sincerely can't tell.
If it IS a joke, very well done, you're masterfully selling the air of believing that the only thing anyone in the rest of the would could ever care about is what Americans think. "Most of America doesn't know where Australia and their supposed croissants even are" XDDD Hilarious, absolutely hilarious that someone would expect an Austrian to just stop caring about a pastry they created and that they love because someone who has never tried the pastry, does not know where their country is or even what the country's name is says they don't care.
Signed, a Belgian.
I went on a French exchange with school when I was 14 and saw a batch of croissants made in a boulangerie and the shock I felt at the amount of butter used was life altering… but then I ate one and didn’t give af about the caloric density of this soft and beautiful piece of heaven.
Arnaldo, some of us appreciated your Big Lebowski references. Even if they went right over Simon’s head. Thank you. 😂
The fact that it went over Simon's head is both delightful and tragic at the same time.
Good looking out for the demonization, too!
My pleasure. I completely forgot to include in the final draft the part where ‘Walter’ tells his Argentine informant to ‘Shut the F**k up Donny!’
DONNY YOURE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT
This isn't Vietnam. There are RULES!
Bonus points to Danny for using the character list from the Big Lebowski in a story and sliding it right past Simon.
As soon as I heard them and he didn't catch it, I started laughing haha
Arnaldo
Arnaldo wrote this script, not Danny.
But agree it was a hilarious move!
@@tarajh My apologies to Arnaldo.
I actually watched at least 3 seasons of that History Channel "Hunting Hitler" show. In some ways its not as much of a waste of time as it might seem. They present a lot of history and archeology about the networks of bunkers the Nazis built, and ways the Germans used South America and Franco's "neutral" Spain as kind of a back door to the rest of the world, even during the war, and they explain a lot of stuff the U-boats were doing. They find some pretty conclusive proof that some Nazis did escape to South America and live there, and they find a lot of crazy ways that Nazi diplomats and agents were moving in and out of Berlin, right up to the end of the war. I haven't kept track in detail, but i think most of the stuff they presented that wasn't about Hitler himself, Ive seen corroborated elsewhere. And actually, seeing them flail around and try so hard to prove the remains from Berlin wasn't him, and still fail, kind of proved to me that he did in fact die exactly as conventional history relates. I feel like the show would get more respect if they just called it "Hunting Nazis" and didn't keep flogging on about old Adolf himself at the beginning and end of every single episode. I would have still watched it, but I'm a nerd after all, and I guess they thought it needed that extra hook to get viewers. But yeah, spoiler alert: they don't find him lol.
But the remains were not hilter they were of a unknown woman, that was debunked years ago people are still clinging on to the suicide theory because they like to think of hitler giving up but he was a lunatic and was not afraid of anything he literally thought he was a reincarnated hero from myth so does not fit the profile.
Also the fact that they saw his escape plane escaping shows that he fled.
exactly , he would have been found if so , he panicked and cowardly killed himself in the bunker , he deserved a lot worse
Hitler wouldn't have have survived very long after the war anyways.
His last videos show a severe trembling in one of his hands - likely an early sign of a serious neuro-degenerative disease.
😂 He was evil, but he definitely wasn't a coward.
The guy went to war against the ENTIRE world.
Don’t quit now on season 3!!!You have to keep watching til the end of season 5 when Heisenberg completes his transformation, exacts total revenge, then flees to Argentina…
The reason U Boat crews were so young is because so few boats returned from even their first tour. By the end of the war, they had no experienced crews left alive.
One of my uncles who served in Intelligence during the war received a handwritten letter from President Truman thanking him for his extraordinary service in South America. The uncle never spoke of his service and took it to his grave. No one in the family has ever thought he was involved in anything regarding hitler, but always curious as to just what he did.
Probably keeping all the OTHER Nazis who were shipped off there, after the war, from causing mischief. Because other Nazis WERE shipped off to Argentina, which is why Argentina is such a huge player in this conspiracy theory in the first place.
My father's aunt also served in intelligence. She took what she did for the government to her grave. She would leave for months at a time. She would give my dad little fun cyphers to crack, just fun stuff, nothing serious. She clearly had knowledge about how to use them. Her family was given some kind of medals posthumously, but to this day don't know exactly what she did. She could have worked in an office her whole life for all we know. Whatever she did she took privacy very seriously.
It's very well known that president Truman enjoyed lady men,and would seek their attention in every place he visited,and then would send out personal thank you letters to them so they'd know he knew how to reach them,so they wouldn't spread the truth of his homosexuality.Most of these people were in the intelligence community,as it was easier to move then around unnoticed to Truman's hotel rooms.
Sounds like a great premise for a mystery thriller novel
They may have been involved in efforts against Operation Bolivar. There was an extensive and successful German spy ring in South America during the war, and the fledgling US cryptographic corps was the key to breaking it up.
Weird that it got no mention in the video. (Unless I missed it.)
Never asks a man his salary, a woman his age and argentinians what their grandfathers did in Germany in the 40s
Your writer should probably include information provided by Dr. Mark Felton, member of the Royal Historical Society, RUclipsr, and Author of a recent series that point out all the problems with the identification of the 2 bodies as being those of Eva and Hitler.
There are striking parallels between the conspiracy theories about Hitler's death and those surrounding the death of Roman emperor Nero in 68 CE. Nero died while attempting to flee Italy after the rest of the Roman government declared him an enemy of the state. It seems that his plan was to seek refuge in the Parthian Empire (Persia) and use there support to eventually retake his throne. However, when it became clear that his enemies were going to catch him, Nero decided to kill himself at a house where he and his close companions stopped for the night. Like Hitler, his body was also burned almost immediately. Therefore, at first there was some uncertainty about what actually happened to him. It took a few days for people in Rome to hear that he was dead. Almost immediately after his death, conspiracy theories started about how the whole suicide story was just a hoax used by Nero's enemies so they could claim the throne for themselves. This conspiracy theory had some real world effects as over the next ~30 years there were at least 3 different people who claimed to be Nero led rebellions against Rome.
Much of the peasantry of Rome also believed Nero would come back to lead Rome to glory. Very interesting stuff.
EDIT: back from the dead to lead Rome to glory*
Something to note about those pretenders. The fact that they each gained a fair amount of support from mostly ye olde average people, says a lot about how Nero was actually seen by a sizeable number of people within the Roman Empire. I would suggest that a lot of that support came not from conspiracies so much as actual support in the east for Nero. The conspiracy theories/uncertainty you mention did likely play just as large of a part.
The primary sources we have are universally hostile towards him, so they need to be taken with a giant grain of salt. They likely do represent how the elite of Rome felt about him. But the support the pretenders rallied to their causes, forces anyone looking objectively at what we know to realize that a good number of people saw them as a good cause for whatever reason. Sure some would likely be just anti-Rome sentiment. Though that cannot explain the level of popular support they did get in itself. It is necessary but not sufficient.
Even the hostile sources we have are not 100% hostile all the time. Just one example is the account of him opening up private grounds during the great fire, to provide a place to shelter for people needing that shelter. Granted Nero going all eminent domain on the destroyed section of Rome to make a giant palace is a bit of a dick move. (But 1300 years late, the rediscovery of parts of his former palace greatly informed a lot of the artistic endeavors of Europe in the following centuries. Not to mention the next 300-400 years worth of findings at the Domus Aurea helping to ignite and later inform the renaissance and evolution of the modern age since then.)
It is not like they gained truly massive support, but neither were they just a handful of psychos.
caveat: remember the "modern era" as a historian would use the term, starts at the renaissance and continues to the current day. The industrial revolution spans the later part of the "early modern period and the early part of the "late modern period" (which runs roughly from 1800-1945). What we are living in now is referred to as the "contemporary period" and starts at the end of WW2. (you have to love how historians will die on the hill of there always being three periods in each of the traditional 3 eras of history :P)
addendum: The story of Nero is by far one of the most interesting out of the early emperors. Especially since it continues for twice as long as he actually lived. It is a perfect example of why I call Roman history "A real life soap opera, with even more backstabbing and deceit."
@@YahwehSaves Yeah, to paraphrase my last reply, it really makes you think about how the non-elites actually saw him.
@@whyjnot420 it’s really thought-provoking stuff. Sidenote: I meant to say “back from the dead” in my reply to OP, which makes everything infinitely more interesting.
@@YahwehSaves Yeah, there are some interesting parallels with early Christian beliefs going on with Nero's "return(s)". Given the timeframe and iirc a lot of that support came from the east of the empire. It would make a ton of sense if those supporters of the return of Nero were at least partially influenced by some of that early Christianity. (also a bunch of interesting parallels between the story of Julius Caesar and Jesus, but that is another giant rabbit hole that I am not stepping foot in atm.)
Anyone else suddenly feel like watching " The Big Lebowski?"
Hitler's health was 100% shot by 1945. His doctor described him as a "living corpse." He had been a hardcore druggie for years, and the stress of the assassination attempt and losing WWII would have been pretty rough. He could not have survived a trip to Argentina.
The most convincing argument agaisnt hitler living for 16 years in argentina is the fact that Hitler remained absolutely 100% silent in all that time.
There is absolutely no way he would have been able to do that even if he was fused with a chair, had his vocal cords removed, and amputated all his limbs.
He would still have, somehow, managed to dictate at least 100 books in that state.
He did not even fucking manage to not dictate half a book minutes before his death, so no fucking way he would remain radio silent for 16 years and beyond his death.
At the latest when stalin died in 53 he would have wrote at least 1000 pages on how to destroy the soviets with no being in existence capable of stopping him.
Exactly, Eichmann was captured in 1953 because a Jewish woman realized the boy she was dating was Eichmann‘ son Klaus. There is no way in the Seven pits of hell, that Adolf Hitler could have gone quiet in a world where literally every country in the world except Japan maybe wanted to put his head on a spike. There’s no way that a guy who tried to conquer the world, believing he was part of a master race descended from Atlantis and had occupied all of Europe a mere 5 years before, could just lay back and go like ”Yh we chilling“ and hide away from every infamous secret service to ever exist.
The Dude, Walter, and Donnie are all references to 'The Big Lebowski' which is a movie containing a "Ringer" which is a fake item hidden in a bag, assumed to be something else. I like the writer for using this as foreshadowing. 😂
Apparently my partner has been watching another Whistler channel, and made me watch. The lack of tangents disturbed me. Not one story about the kids.
7:40 Bingo. After Hitler saw what happened to Mussolini, he decided that he wanted to avoid the indignity of his corpse getting desecrated and opted to have his body already too damaged to have anything done to him after death.
You know you're old when you used to watch the history channel for history shows...
Simon should make a channel just showing the absolutely batshit insane messages he gets from some people. I'd watch the hell out of that. 😂
I would say that they should make that the new endcard, but I think that would just encourage more insane messages.
I'm sad the editor didn't put in more Big Lebowski pics when Simon definitely wasn't getting it.
It was a woman's skull not his
My granddad served in the war and always thought Hitler had survived, but I reckon that was more out of a feeling of: this person was evil and unless I see his dead body with my own eyes, I can't say without a shadow of a doubt that he's really dead. Less, I have secret intelligence of the fact and more, traumatised by six years of warfare. I think a huge part as to why this one persists is because there *were* definitely nazi's that managed to escape to South America, so it's obviously possible that Hitler might have too. As you say, there's always a kernal of truth to a story.
I believe Argentina is where the Mossad caught Adolph Eichman. Who was one of the key authors to the whole Nazi plan to execute all the Jews and non Aryans. So thinking Hitler was one of the ones that escaped via Uboat is not that crazy…
I see now that Simon brings this up, lol. I guess I should have watched the whole thing before commenting.
Don't doubt your granddad. I don't even know why I am even commenting here. Perhaps to support you. This is all mainstream.
My grandfather was pretty certain Hitler was still alive. He was a slave worker for most of the war and he said he was working outside one time and saw multiple cars over the course of one day pull up to a building across the street and a Hitler came out of each one. I believe his story since Hitler had many assassination attempts so having body doubles sounds right. So I could imagine at least some of his body doubles escaped down to Argentina.
That would explain why the supposed "Hitler" in Argentina lived for so long, allegedly. It was a healthier body double.
@@Bluesit32that would make sense
You can believe whatever lies you want,that doesn't make them true.
@@jeffdroog I mean you don't think he had body doubles? I only believe that maybe some body doubles went away to countries more forgiving to Nazis after the war.
@EngineerOfChaos I mean,unless there's legitimate evidence for it,likely not lol Besides,ANY body double.would literally have to shave the mustache,and likely wouldn't have any resemblance left to Hitler himself."body doubles" are not surgically created,masterpiece doubles of another human.They are someone of the same build,weight,and height roughly,and who can be trained to walk,and stand like you,they're aren't even expected to have similar facial features,ad a body doubles is used to throw observers off at a distance,not up close scrutiny.
Thats kind of sad about Stalin. He didn't want to lose war time allies. He'd miss his friends, his buddies, and his pals.
Relive the good ol' times.
I agree poor old guy knew he was a monster
@@ryanmrowka8970 the best people to have in your life are those who know how best to check your worst impulses
Sympathizing with a genuine mass murderer. L take
@@grilledleeks6514 not sympathy, empathy. Dictionary, take it
If only we had his body confirmed by all sides. Not to keep it, burn and then dump the ashes; but just so everyone knows he is dead
“The Dude” abides Simon, “The Dude” abides - Your writer is an absolute legend for that “Big Lebowski” tie in. Well played sir, well played 🙌🏼
21:47 there's something so hilarious about Simon totally missing the reference and still laughing because The Dude, Walter and Donnie don't sound Argentinian.
We'll just call that whole report "the rug" and it really ties the whole story together 😂
Startled the cat when I burst out laughing!
I was actually wondering if anyone but me caught the reference
@@bigirishpapa25 I've never even seen the movie and I got the reference.
I love how Simon is saying ‘The Dude, Walter and Donnie’ with absolutely zero awareness to the significance of the names 😂
It really ties the whole piece together 🥛🎳
Could you please explain? I'm not a native English speaker.
@@G-Confalonieri The Dude, Walter and Donny are characters from the film The Big Lebowski. To nobody's surprise, Simon did not watch it. 😂
@@G-Confalonieri they’re the names of the 3 main characters in a very popular Cohen Brothers film called _The Big Lebowski_
I can’t recommend it enough.
Nice marmot
Simon only watch weird movies and Star trek movies, it is hardly the first time he miss a movie reference.
But to be fair are the rest of the world less fanatical about movie references then Americans, you guys live for that thing.
I am actually more surprised he failed with the croissant, he make historical documentaries on several channels so he should have known it's story with the Ottoman failed invasion, I am pretty sure he made several videos about it.
As someone who doesn’t have cable tv and therefore doesn’t watch “regular news”, I would encourage you to still do the declassified channel! Just because the news covers it doesn’t mean a lot of people (especially the younger generations) are hearing about it!
I don't think Simon got The Big Lebowski reference in the story with "the dude" walter and donny, lol. We love you Simon, never change.
Simon, have you ever looked at the casualty rates in U-boats? A 24 year-old captain is an old man in the U-boats.
Or causality rates in both World Wars overall... a 24-year-old soldier probably was the most seasoned veteran, the "Wehrmacht" had left in 1944.
Captain is not a high rank. 24 isn't young for it
I love the turn of phrase "Stalin you have enough bad marks"
I lived in Milwaukee for over twenty years and every now and then they'd discover that some mild-mannered grandpa had been a Nazi, usually having served as a guard at one of the concentration camps. Because Milwaukee has a large German population *and* a large Jewish population, such events inevitably created a minor uproar.
Well considering no family except natives are actually from americans past 500 years old theres going to be alot of people there but america did take alot of nazis in after the war
Always appreciate a Big Lebowski reference, Arnaldo, cheers! Not surprised Simon skated by it, whether he’s seen the movie or not! To paraphrase slightly “[Simon] you’re out of your element!”
I've got one for y'all to cover: The story of how a witch cursed the Sheriff of Salem, Massachusetts, following which every Salem sheriff died under very mysterious and rare circumstances to the point that they had to dismantle the position to break the curse. That's the story I heard, anyway.... I'd love for it to be decoded!
Good idea. I think I’ve already decoded it in my head
@@MissMentats Ghosts! 😂
Sounds like a plot that Stephen King would come up with, in one of his crazy horror stories...
@@lizmattucks2142aliens 😅
Sounds like the TV show Stan Against Evil.
For Declassified stories, the idea is to really amp up the fiction around it; pick a topic with potentially crazy rumors and conspiracy theories and delve into all the history surrounding the classified info, then have the released declassified info at the end as a small part to show how even boring information can get out of hand when it is a government secret.
This is a perfect idea! I’d watch the shit out of that! You are truly a big brain. 🙂
Maybe if he goes far enough back in history he could get enough interesting formerly classified material to keep things going. Or he could use a very broad definition of "declassified." (Possibly defining "declassified" as an explanation based on evidence for one conspiracy theory or another.)
I don’t see why it’s crazy to think hitler got away. Other than everyone saying your crazy.
The Soviets said “his” scull was of a women not hitler. The us smuggled out thousands of Nazis in operation paper clip.
Also what would the US say if they knew hitler was alive, “hitler is dead the war is over let’s move on the the age of America.”
Dude NASA was started by Nazis
there are loads of great stories that can be made from declassified material. the problem if finding the interesting bits. imagine the scene at the end of raiders of the lost ark. one of the ways US government makes it hard to decode classified information is by obfuscation.
bury the important information in a sea of unimportant details.
when i worked in a field with access to classified information, we had entire rooms filled with classified collections of documents, what could be 10s of thousands of pages, all classified, but only 1 paragraph on one page actually contains the secret information, which could be something as innocuous as the the frequency a particular peice of epuipment runs at. thus once its all declassified, good luck foguring out why it was classified in the first place unless you are familiar with the situation at the time.
This is a great idea because they could even throw in twists where they cover some of the best/worst declassified things as if they are just like the other "looney" conspiracy theories just to at the end reveal it was actually true this time.
Operation Northwoods is one that sounds so insane that they could probably pull off making it sound outright unbelievable but if they say had the name in the title it will immediately make it clear to quite a few that it IS true, so I'm not really sure how titling would go for such a series.
Simon not getting the Big Lebowski reference to The Dude Walter and Donny is hilarious 😂
There is no shot Simon was catching Arnaldo's Lebowski reference. It was glorious. Slick writing.
Last time i was this early Simon was still on topic.
Poor Simon... Missing all the great big Lebowski references. Thank Arnaldo!
I was waiting for Maude, Jesus and Sam Elliott to turn up 😂😂😂😂
Very slick Arnaldo 😂😂
Was just watching a reaction to The Big Labowski today. 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
As an Argentinian I would like to clarify: infobae is like a mild version of The Daily Mail… I wouldn’t put too much trust in any article posted there. Also, everybody knows no report / investigation done or published during Menem’s period can be reliable. Simon could create a new RUclips channel completely made of stories about the corruption and irregularities that characterized the 90s in Argentina.
Menem lo hizo ☠
What's your opinion of Jeremy Clarkson? Or Top Gear, in general?
That skull the Russians had was a female's skull.
There’s a whole touristic industry in Argentina about the supposed places where Hitler lived in Patagonia, books and “documentaries” about it, etc.
So happy to see an Arnaldo written script! It feels like ages since we’ve seen his wonderful work!
I would love to see Simon, do a weekly news channel where he just spits out the facts that are available and gives no editorial. I feel like he do a perfect job.
But each episode needs to come out a whole week later.
@@eddiehardt1260I think the delay would make it even funnier! 😂
@@sa9110 Exactly what I thought. I'd love it
and a mosquito has 277 eyes.... in paairrrsss. what DANNYYYYYYY!!! DAHMMM. WHAT ARE WE READING HERE. BLOODY CHAOS????
If Simon isn't giving his editorials, I'm not watching.
Anything is "plausible" within universal laws. One just needs to investigate if something actually happened. So, while it was plausible that he escaped from germany, it was proven that he did not.
I mean, the 24 year old captain probably got fast tracked seeing as most higher officers were in Nuremberg.😂
This demonetization of actual history using the actual names is insane. I get it, in theory, RUclips can choose what they allow. However, dumbing down podcasts so that we don't hear "bad" words is wild.
I wouldn't want to encourage them, but a channel where Simon reads aloud emails that crazy people have sent him would be great entertainment!
Its not impossible though. Hitler also employed Body Doubles. Seriously, Argentina's Military literally wears the uniforms of the WERMACHT.
The failed Austrian painter saying "Hello there, Old Bean!" is a rather interesting mental image. Thank you(?) Simon.
My grandfather was detained in Detroit due to the haircut,mustache, (very common style then) and vague likeness of Hitler. As many others were. A credible sighting would be near impossible to find.
Sounds just like something the grandchild of Hitler would say. 🧐
@@stillmagic714 🐈💨
When I was a kid, I read the book “Starring Sally J. Freedman as Herself”, by Judy Blume. In the book (set in 1948), Sally thinks that an older gentleman in her new neighborhood in Florida is Hitler.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen the bare naked flesh of Simon’s arms before. What a memorable moment.
My first impression as well. Is it casual day at the office?
@@mim5351he must've recorded a bunch of casual criminalist episode earlier in the day 😂
Always love watching your vids and your tangents \but please have whoever edits to turn your volume up or maybe its something on your input that needs turning up a bit. It's really hard to hear while I have a game going (even at low volume) and the music could be turned down a smidge too so that your voice is maybe about 25% or more up from your speaking/mic audio :) just an AV nerd trying to kindly help is all :)
I don't know what's better: listening to Simon's tangents or reading the comments.
Simon’s mini rant about Stalin. 😆
Stalin knew the Americans were prone to conspiratorial and magical thinking. He did it for the lulz.
Your tangents are more than HALF the run-time of most of your uploads, Simon. FOCUS!
these videos are always much more quiet than almost anything else i watch. please crank up simon's audio in the final mix
All I can think is "Stalin got bad Marx"
Baa da bum bum!
Eichmann was the one who was caught in South America, others were also tracked down around the Continent and it has been somewhat confirmed that Mengele died in Brazil. Martin Bormann, Hitler's secretary was also said to have lived in Argentina. There is an Island off the South American coast which also has strong connections to the Nazi's, and they had apparently made plans to set up a fourth Reich of sorts there.
Eichmann was indeed caught in Argentina, and Mengele lived and practiced as a doctor en Buenos Aires as well.
@@redundantnspeechless I prefer people who respond to my comments to add to the conversation, but your redundant comment did leave me somewhat speechless so well done !!
This is the comment I was looking for.
Eichmann was indeed captured by Israelis in Argentina and was brought to Israel to stand trial for his crimes against humanity. There was a movie about it called Operation Finale with Ben Kingsley playing as Eichmann.
Edit: he was actually smuggled out of South America and into Israel.
@@yasminni485 My personal interest lies in the numerous Nazi war criminals who were not captured like Eichmann, some of whom were well known to intelligence agencies and were nonetheless allowed to live freely both in South American and Europe. I won't get started on Operation Paperclip, that can be homework for anyone who reads this !!
@@redundantnspeechlessThere are actually several large German communities in Argentina to this day, such as Bariloche. It definitely wasn't Hitler who escaped there, but several other high-ranking Nazi officials and officers could have been dropped by U-boat. Eichman is one. There were also a couple of Nazis found there in the 1990s by American journalists, such as Erich Priebke, and there was that whole thing about John Demanjuk (Although that was in North America).
The conspirators also conveniently disregard fairly accurate reports of Hitler's general health at the end of WW2 in Europe. There's even video evidence of his hands shaking as a result of Parkinson's Syndrome. Not to mention his noted gastro intestinal disorders which would have made travel very difficult for a man in his condition to endure. Nonetheless, a good presentation, Simon, which will at least go some way to persuading those "swing voters" that Hitler did indeed die a miserable death at his own hands in his miserable little bunker at the end of a miserable war. And good riddance!
Lol, no evidence is facts?
He became Father Crespi, who kicked off the Ancient Aliens cult when he spoke with Eric Von Danikan, it became the premise of Scientology, featured as a hit History channel series, and now is furthered by people like Randall and Hancock, Greer and Lockwood
This is a rehash of Hitler's Vril Cult, same with Ancient Aliens, and Graham Hancock
Its about creating distrust in govt, science and academia, and encourages the same kind of magical thinking that religions and cults do, and that Fascism requires.
I like to think the spottings of Hitler post WW2 was of one of his Stand-ins that happen to have gotten out of Germany alive, or was a local man who could of been a Hitler stand-in whose wife resembled Ava Von Bron. I think that's the actual true story of Argentinian Hitler is it was either a stand in or a fair skinned local man who resembled him in some way that spooked a journalist while he was traveling through the country side.
We don't know if he had Parkinson's for certain. Some speculate the shaking hand may have instead been from the years of drug abuse finally catching up, that he was actually tweaking.
@@nl3064 Also lost of Motor control is an advanced symptom of Syphilis in the later stages and we do know from his medical records he did indeed have it.
@@nl3064 it was probably a combination of poor health and opiate withdrawals, I think
Simon not catching the Big Lebowski reference is gold
Addressing simons "declassified" idea. I feel a mini series on this channel of things that were mysteries that were later explained by declassified documents could be cool. Could do it the format of an epic blaze, where he talks about several cases in one long video
I have arrived within a minute of the post. Decoding the Unknown is too good to wait for RUclips to remember its job and notify me.
Edit: Now that I've finished the video, I did want to say that I at least "get" this one. Several other high ranking Nazis *did* flee, some of which went to Argentina. Given the evidence it's pretty silly to think Hitler did, but it's only like a 3/10 on the crazy scale.
F5, F5, F5... *CTRL+F5* !!!
@@marcuscowles3384 me every day at 2 p.m. I have no idea when the other channels post, but I'm always ready for some DtU to make my afternoon less boring.
I'm not sure how, after 100's of videos, I'm just realizing the music change when Simon goes off the rails on tangents lol
To spice up any channel:
1) Add custom neon sign in background with your initials (a blue SW would look great)
2) Print out script on actual paper
3) Stand and read the script. Begin to pace and smack the script multiple times (assert your dominance)
4) Yell at your plants and lock all your employees in the basement (AM I RIGHT, PETER!?)
When the first ad rolls and I know Simon will actually get paid for his excellent work on this video
I watched an episode of expedition unknown about this and it fully convinced me that Hitler escaped to Argentina
Love Josh Gates!
@@tarajhWho doesn't love Josh Gates?
This might be a stupid question but if Hitler was in fact still alive and tried to cover up his death with a staged suicide then would it not had just been easier to alter his dental records to match that of the skull recovered in the garden as opposed to physically altering himself or have I missed a key element here that would prevent this from being a possibility? I would appreciate any thoughts on the matter. Simon and Company please keep up the wonderful work entertaining and educating all of us with your numerous RUclips channels. The pride that you put into everything you do and the joy by which you seem to do it really shines through the quality of every production. As a fan I just wanted to express my gratitude and say thank you. Wishing you and your loved ones a lifetime of health and happiness all the way from Smithfield, Virginia in the US. Take care and please keep up the great work.
You're assuming that he staged his own death
I was thinking the same thing when Simon was talking about it. With his power changing dental records wouldn't have been difficult
RUclips, please just let poor Simon get paid, and say what he wants wherever he wants, on any channel he wants. Thanks.
Simon is actually the funniest dude ever. this level of cynical sarcasm is so fucking hilarious in these serious topics. 10/10
Regarding the Declassified channel idea: sometimes they do just declassify fascinating stuff. There's a documentary I watched called Bugging Hitler's Soldiers, which details recordings made by MI19 (yes, there used to be a LOT of MI units) of German POW generals during WWII. The scheme was that an MI19 officer commandeered Trent Park, one of those classic old manor houses, and posed as a British gentleman who felt that regardless of all else in the war, generals were to be treated as gentlemen, and basically gave them free reign of his house and grounds, with minimum levels of supervision except at the borders of the property. And the entire mansion and its grounds were wired with thousands of microphones. Theory being, make them feel like they're at a country retreat and they'll relax enough to talk among themselves. People there from earlier would ask for news of the war from new inmates. Newspapers printed specially for the camp would provide articles intended to provoke conversations about things that were of interest. Etc. Absolutely fascinating system, and similar to the Enigma decoding systems, was considered so supremely useful as a military intelligence tool that they put the lockdown on *anyone* including the US and other allies knowing about it...and lessons learned in setting up that camp went on to inform spycraft in the cold war.
All of this was quietly declassified in one of those giant infodumps when stuff from its era came up for review. By this point the idea of "plant microphone in place, listen to person talk, thus get secrets" was a pretty mundane idea even in spy fiction, so they didn't have any reason to keep it secret anymore. So, eventually some historian or student thereof is doing a deep dive into this random uboat captain's life. He thinks he has all the documents available, but to be sure, he runs a very broad search of the British national archive on this guy, and it comes back with some 8000 pages of transcripts where this guy was either talking or talked about. (They did the same thing with uboat captains and luftwaffe officers who were captured at a couple of other facilities.) All brand new stuff that nobody seemed to know the source of. So he does a bunch more digging and comes up with documents on this whole scheme that by this point in the 90s or something has been forgotten by pretty much *everyone.*
So...yeah, the absolute gold in these batch declassifications is hard to find, but there's at least one case of someone just bumping into the declassified records of a completely forgotten aspect of WWII British spycraft. I'm sure there's other nuggets of cool history just buried forgotten in the massive databases that are national archives. Though despite my enthusiasm for the idea, I totally understand not being willing to do the digging yourself. I'm not up for doing it either. And...this is a thing people do. Those people are archivists and historians.
I'd say Declassified might be a good series of RUclips shorts for Decoding the Unknown or maybe they could be a subset of decoding the unknown episodes where theres an episode with a bunch of declassified information from different countries.
I don’t think ancient alien theory is racist as there are no claims that the ancient people were limited by their race and traits of that race, just claims that “hey it was a long time ago and people, in general, weren’t that advanced.” But.. that’s just my opinion..
This video is exactly how long I have left at work 😂
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Finally, The Whistler has come to Argentina. I’ve waited on this.
Here's an idea for Declassified: do it Internet's Deepest Mystery style, where the writer presents a declassified case with several solutions and Simon has to guess the real answer. I'm sure the fine writers of the Whistlerverse can find some case files with solutions that are normal enough to not be thumb tacks and string worthy but are funny and weird.
Simon I would say Egypt had skilled workers so did Africa.. for all time. This is because some of these people could turn rock into sculptures, metal to knifes, or obsidian into knives and arrow heads and I bet that most of us would have a hard time accomplishing these task without years of training.
He knows, he was being sarcastic
@@pluto6154 in your opinion, I didn't get any sarcasm from the statement.. in my opinion of course
Tangentially ... knapping obsidian into sharp points is actually not that difficult. It fractures beautifully with little knowledge of what to do. Flint, on the other hand ... much more time consuming and needing at least several months of practice to get good at it. (oh, delusions of being an archaeologist ... rock knapping was fascinating)
Bell music way too loud, made Simon hard to hear. Great episode otherwise!
Came to the comments to see if it was just me
Glad it's not just me, currently at 28:20 and I can't hear what he's saying. I would really prefer no background music at all.
I can't get enough of Simon
The reason for the young ages of higher ranking officers during ww2 was due to well the war, war and battlefield action gives plenty of chances for promotions, while peace times doesn't, thus it takes years of peace time practice and tests and hoping someone above you retire or gets promoted leaving a space open for you, it's a big thing soldiers in the current peace era complain about, you put in 15 years of hard work and you still stuck where you where 15 years ago. Also during war time death and injury is quite common leaving gaps that need filling, and plenty of young men to force into those roles until their time is up and they need replacing. Form what I recall the officers that stormed Normandy where at their oldest late 30's, yet today during peace times having those higher ranks at late 30's is considered pretty young to have it.
Captain is not a high rank
The thing is, even had Hitler survived the bunker, his health was in such a rapid decline, he would’ve probably been dead within a couple years after 1945. I have a hard time believing he would’ve made it to 1950. The reason I believe the story as history accepts it, is as time went on we were able to track down so many other Nazi officials YEARS after that. We know how they escaped, we know when they escaped, we know where they escaped to. I just find it unlikely that Hitler would’ve been an exception to the paper trails. The thing that fuels the fire is the lack of concrete proof that was his body the Soviets recovered. But I attribute that to typical Soviet/Russo shady behavior.
True, you have people like Eichmann, Mengele and other key Nazi figures eventually being found out in Latin America but you’re telling a maniacal junkie who was in bad health and also was Adolf fucking Hitler would under some mysterious circumstances be able to hide away and succeed at something that much smarter people have failed to do. We are talking about the same guy who thought he was part of a master race descended from Atlantis. Yeah right…
The "Simon got sidetracked music" tickles me.
Attention NETFLIX I'm currently watching [Treason] because of Simon.....editor please get rid of the music box audio or turn it way down
Hey, Simon! I'm getting frozen when I die, too! Looking forward to seeing Decoding the Unknown 2455 AD!
Well... For me, what makes the idea of H scaping compelling is the fact that he was a coward. But, at the same time, it also makes the S compelling, for exactly the same reason.
And since we have no evidence he scaped...
5:45 - Chapter 1 - Stalin porkies
11:10 - Chapter 2 - An order of german subs
20:15 - Chapter 3 - Trolling hoover
29:40 - Chapter 4 - Reports from people who may have actually known what they were doing
34:25 - Chapter 5 - A cottage industry
41:30 - Chapter 6 - The truth
Thank you!
Thank you for providing us with timestamps.
43:13 If Hitler had body doubles seeing the same dentist, the dentist just needs to switch the names on the records. 46:13 Also, I think that it's more of a case of Hitler's followers wanting to believe he survived, and his enemies wanting to make sure he's dead.