Can a Used Porsche Cayenne Turbo Beat a New Tesla Model X in a Drag Race? Adventure X Ep.10
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) What's Faster in a drag race? Is it a used 2012 Porsche Cayenne Turbo or a new Tesla Model X? There's only one way to find out.
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A drag race at 8 in the morning...Hell Yeah!!!🏁🏁🏁🏁This was awesome episode... Any KO2s going on the Porsche?... Porsche vs Toureg episode?😎😎Thanks Roman n Tommy.
I have to say for its age and mileage that Cayenne looks pretty damn good, really good actually, it ages very well.
venom5809 Ikr. I really like it, Another reason that is probably still looking new and fresh is the fact that like most Porsche’s since the news ones don’t chance older ones look modern cause they look like the newer one unlike most cars that when get updated makes the older version look older most of the times.
If by good you mean soap holder shape
Like ANY European car...
Porsche- there is no substitute
There is a reason it lost so much of it's value in such a short period of time. It will cost you at least 10-15k per year to keep it on the road, lol.
5:19 starting race
7:50 second race.
I really hate how long they take to get to the actual content.
Love you dude 😭
Both of you are doing gods work
@@aguman aw thanks
Video in short:
1.They talk about the cars
2.They share their experience
3.The race begins
4.Tesla takes the lead
5.Porsche overtakes the Tesla
6.Porsche wins!
Why not take the 2012 Porsche Turbo and compare cost of ownership to this point with a 2012 Tesla?
That would be great, also compare fit and finish and body gap lines too!
@@shockracer Aren't the results obvious? The Porsche costs 10X as much to own but the panel gaps are 1mm tighter.
Are there any 2012 Tesla's that have traveled over 170,000 miles?
@@siraff4461 Blah blah blah. My Tesla is a 2013 and has cost my $90 in repairs since new. And it is not a nightmare to insure. It cost the same to insure as the Mustang it replaced.
@@jjmarz1001 Of course. There are early Teslas with over 400K miles.
Love the father and son drag races! Go TFL!
Carroll Shelby, well that isn't very nice.
Carroll Shelby Unlucky for you ours keeps growing
That's some serious depreciation in seven years for the Porsche.
It's the effect of demand for electric cars has cause serious depreciation on higher end cars like the Porsche, Mercedes and BMW. Used Tesla are demanding higher on average rate. Look at a used 2016 Model X performance VS a used Porsche Cayenne Turbo of the same year. This is why German car companies are racing to introduce hybrid and electric versions of their best selling cars. Some certainly do not want to buy a car that loses 50 percent of their value in 3 years. US car manufactures are leaving building 4 doors and focus on building Trucks. But recently Ford showing concern over the advent of electric Trucks has been moving to introduce an electric version of their F150 and invested 500 million into RIVIAN. But they view Tesla truck being at least 2 years away and RIVIAN to ramp up production only in 2021 the earliest. Top it off the RIVIAN is expensive and limited used for construction work VS a full size truck.
@truongtu0191 Haha, if Porsche makes shitty quality, what does Tesla make? Cardboard cars?
Well it has 170k miles on it... that's 2.5 times more on average during the same 7 years plus it's a luxury segment vehicle which all normally tank in value during the first 3 years or so.
@truongtu0191 So it is much more expensive to buy a 2e hand Tesla than a 2e hand Porsche? Hm, wonder who the losers are... ;) And please, don't compare Tesla's with Porsches, it is insulting to Porsche. Nonetheless, Tesla's are fine, I like them, but their advantage lies within the fact that they are electric, and in 2 decades time all cars will be... Having brakes that last forever is no achievement by Tesla, it comes with the electric system. Basically I have nothing at all against electric cars, or maybe one thing: They will probably kill off the 911. That is a bit sad.
@@brulaapgaapmeester8234 lol are you some sort of Porsche representative? what is your problem with Tesla obviously being far more reliable than Porsches?
im a huge P car fan and own a 911, but you know what the P100D model X woulda done to that cayenne.......
oh shit yeah..
It would shit on it
Stephan Hatch yeah, that pd100 would show that old used 22k cayenne who’s boss 😂... although, needing a pd100 to beat an old 22k cayenne isn’t much of a brag lol
@@Luminary2024 p100d not needed
Why don't you post a price of a new Cayenne turbo and compared to the price of the Tesla model
X. That would be a much fair price.
Because the Cayenne they are using is not on sale anymore and is discontinued since 2014, there is no new price for it, therefore it is very fair.
more importantly you can trust the quality of the porsche long term and the brand has been around so its a good investment-tesla is a risk though one I'd like to try :)
@@jd-py5nm trust. LoL is a VW. Let's remember that. Just because it's ( #TESLA ) a new company doesn't take away the fact it's a great car company. If you have a Porsche. Please tell me how many times have you been to the service center. And how many times have they came to your house or work to fix an issue with the vehicle???
@@AOTanoos22 how so if your comparing a Used to New?? Let's compare a 83 Civic with a M3 BMW that's fair. Right?
@@mexicanracer03 Your comparison makes no sense, what are you trying to say here ?
The cayenne only needs a 300$ secondary cat delete, 100 worth of k&n air filters, a 600$ blow off valve, and a 900$ tuner. And then it has 600 hp. 650 to 750 with larger turbos.
I once considered a used Cayenne, then checked the maintenance I had to take on that cheap car...
Your first trip to the dealer will easily run you over $5000 if you are lucky. If you can't afford a new Cayenne Turbo you definitely can't afford a used 6 year old one with 120,000 miles on it. A used Cayenne Turbo is only a good deal for a very wealthy man. Especially one completely out of factory warranty.
You can extend the warranty on the cayenne for around 2k per year until 160k miles, which is a damn good value for the price of whatever it may fail in the cayenne.
@@valentin7436 You can extend the warranty to 160k miles but you can't buy in at 120k miles. The warranty would already have to be in place. At least not to the factory sponsored warranty. All other extended warranties are pretty much garbage ( Geico excluded). You can only get the Geico extended warranty when the car is new and it expires at 100,000 miles. The Geico extended warranty is usually under $120 a year with a $100 deductible.
I extended the warranty at the Porsche dealership in Europe with a test of 118 points or something like that on a Cayenne Turbo with 125k miles on the dash, even though the car had expired warranty for over a year now. It just had to have all the service history at a Porsche dealer. Sold the car after 2 years. And in the 2 years I had it, changed the transfer case, the gearbox, and some bushings, all on warranty (bumper to bumper warranty). I even changed on warranty the main drivers side windows switch cause I broke some plastic tab while pulling it
@@valentin7436 I do not believe we have that offer in the states I will check. That is a game changer if that is true. Again only if you are in an upper income.
@@fatboy19831 As far as I know, even if you don't have this offer in the states, you could easily find a "Porsche Approved" car for sure. I've seen a lot of americans extending their warranty, granted, not as many as in Europe. Also, don't make the mistake of buying the car without warranty or not get the warranty. The things I changed on warranty, went over $40k, and I paid in 2 years roughly $4.5k (that's included towing in the state (500 miles range) I am - if I ever get stranded).
It would have been more accurate to compare the Porsche's new MSRP plus inflation... the 2012 MSRP of the Turbo was $107k. That's ~$120k with inflation. I saw a few reviews online with an as tested of $149K, that's $170k adjusted. Today the Cayenne Turbo starts at $130k. The base MSRP of your Tesla is $85k and the performance is $105k before any state or federal credits.
No it won't. The Porsche is second hand with 100 plus thousand miles on. If you wanted to buy both cars that drag races in this video right now, what would you pay?
@@henri7359 If it is also my everyday car? Id get the tesla because the porsche will end up breaking down shortly
@@TheMrNeffels with all those miles behind this one I agree. But overall Porsche is the 4th most reliable car for 2019! Not bad for a sports car marque hey Neffel?
@@henri7359 I don't hold much weight to consumer reports rankings.
They get their data from self reported car owners. Most people will overlook little things if they like brand or the car
@@henri7359 surveys that use insurance claims for reliability before instead of consumer reports way of surveying fans have consistently shown Porsche towards bottom for years
Good grief. Top Gear much? Seven years ago, that Cayenne turbo cost $120,000. Your brand new model X, less than $90,000. You could’ve purchased a performance X for $95,000 (2.7s 0-60). You talk about lowering the suspension like it’s some sort of conspiracy; it’s a swipe of a finger and three seconds wait. As compared to that obnoxious spooling up of the turbos - a pretty embarrassing procedure at a stoplight. All you’ve demonstrated is that the cayenne doesn’t hold it’s value very well... Plus the cost of ownership over those seven years was through the roof, I guarantee it.
Actually your bias is showing. Seven years ago you could not have purchased a Model X and when the performance Model X did finally debut about 2 years after it was promised.... it cost more that the Cayenne Turbo. These are the facts that Tesla fanboys conveniently ignore.
In fact it is almost impossible to keep track of the price of the Model X because it changes so often. As Model X owners we feel pretty silly for buying it when we did since Tesla made supercharging free after we bought it to new customers. Way to treat your current customers?
I wonder how much the Model X would be worth after 7 years and high mileage...
But personally I think the Tesla/EV brands quality is still finding its place in the world and would be much happier with the Porsche..
👍🏼
The Fast Lane Car Have no idea what your point is. That you didn’t get your X as early as you wanted? That a new auto company will have hiccups? (It took Porsche 60 years before it produced truly reliable cars.) You’re the one who continually runs these head-to-head comparisons, so if 0 to 60 is your metric here are the facts: a 2020 Cayenne turbo will cost more than $125,000; a Tesla model X performance will cost you $95,000. And it will destroy the cayenne in 0 to 60 runs. Now, compare cost of ownership over the next seven years for each and resale value. We already have a pretty good idea of how well Tesla will hold up-Very difficult to find a 2013 Tesla S for $22,000...
@@TFLcar Unlike virtually everyone of your videos, there was no significant bias in his response (ok..maybe some turbo at a stoplight nonsense, but whatever). He correctly pointed out that you compared the performance model of one car vs the non performance model of another car, and also used the used price vs new price in your comparison. That was a completely intentional bias on your part, just like all the other garbage videos you two clickbaiting amateurs produce.
Brian Kingsbury And yet you continue to watch and comment 😂 Classic
Good job showing the options and method in setting up for the drag race.
If it weren’t for the cost of repairs of aging electronics, etc. I would keep my Cayenne for 20 years - it is 6 years old and feels almost new. That is the big difference between Porsche and American brands - the leather, plastic, hinges, etc. are all about 2x the thickness of my Jeep, for instance.
dude said holly fricc 😂😂
Best part about the Porsche is you could easily make it even faster. Can't say that about the Tesla.
You guys never calculated the cost of the gas boooooooooooooooooooooo.
WOW!!! Was not expecting that first outcome
Also i think the Porsche will be quicker on track due to brakes and weight
You're forgetting the Tesla was catching up.
Let's not forget the Porsche is top-heavy so in theory the #Tesla should be much faster and demolish the #Porsche.
Laws of physics, folks.
Ask a mechanic if it is true that there is a kinetic loss (increase torque need, in layman's terms) after snapping on a universal joint to their ratcheting socket at a high angle, in order to get into tight engine bay areas, to remove a bolt? Same laws of physics apply to drive shafts and their joints. Get out the tool box and give it a try.
Greetings to Elon Muzković! I've got a hunch that he doesn't wrench every day, so I wouldn't expect him to admit to any laws of physics :)
I love this video, but it's also a pathetically unfair comparison. Performance versions of the model x have been tested doing it in under 2.9 seconds. not fair
Nice video!! cant wait for the track race, think the Porsche will win, lighter and better brakes
I am pretty sure people DON'T buy a Tesla to do drag races... at least the one who aren't RUclipsrs. There is no "performance" version of Model X. There are many more useful characteristics of a Tesla X that the Porsche can't offer. You may as well compare it to an Ariel Atom. In short, there is nothing similar to a Model X in the marketplace, nor any real competition.
Let’s be honest, comparing the cost of a new X against the cost of a used cayenne is ludicrous. I mean come oooon, That’s like comparing apples to pecans LOL. And, I only say that because you can buy a used model X and the result is going to be the same and the price is going to be much more comparable.
Not apples to apples. The turbo was a $130k car new. The correct comparison would be to test the x performance. X performance is still cheaper at 105k. Also the maintenance on a high mileage Porsche is high.
So how much was the Tesla model X performance seven years ago? It didn’t exist because Tesla over promised and under performed by 2 years. And when it finally did it arrive it cost more than the Porsche. Funny how you forgot about these facts!
If you add in the total cost of ownership over the life of the Porsche it would always cost more. Yes Tesla’s track record is not great with promises. Yes the Tesla did not exist when the Chyanne rolled out of the factory. Then test the more relevant 2020 model against the P X. Oh wait that would be too fair of a fight.
The Porsche is a money pit. Even more so in a year or two. It does look nice though.
@@jimmyfallen3897 Tesla maintenance costs are extraordinarily high because of poor quality, expensive repairs and poor reliability especially the doors. No wonders in the most advanced electric cars countries where EVs sell the most, the Netherlands and Norway, Audi e-Tron is now massively outselling the low quality model x in both countries. Each month model X reaches new record low sales there.
Paname514 - I agree build quality could have been better, we need to remember Tesla is a new car manufacturer, it takes time to improve processes. I don’t agree that the maintenance costs of Tesla are high, most X owners are still under the factory warranty, 4 year 50k mile and the 8 year power train. I am glad the etron is selling well, competition only makes for better products in the future. I think we need to look holistically when comparing sales. Etron is new and people were waiting for its release, let’s see what the numbers look like after they normalize next year. Also, when Audi releases their next car sales would be split between offerings much like the X and model 3. I say we are living in great times and am excited about what car manufacturers produce in the next 5 years.
Porsche will be faster around a track. Tesla is great on straight line performance, but struggles on the track due to the heavy battery. The Model X plaid could change that, if Elon plans to bring one out. However, if I had the money, I’d rather lease the Tesla. I don’t have to pay for gas or maintenance.
They are both big bloated SUV's. Not track vehicles in any universe. Get a sports car if track times are important.
Model 3 is kicking gas butt. Just saying and I’m a dodge guy. On track and drag racing. Pretty impressed but still makes no noise so gotta burn the corn juice for now. I wanna take the 3 around a road track and race some bmws
How can you *not* like a father and son drag race? But Pops should have been in the old school spaetzle burner, giving it the beans.
So many people only racing 0-60 mph these days. I wish they would go a full 1/4 mile for times. Also, a roll race from about 50 mph (to imitate a highway encounter is also nice). Most races, on the street, are from a roll. The reason is drag races from a green light are extremely noticeable to cops. It's much less noticeable when you do a side by side punch from a roll.
But if you're at the track or an abandoned road, a prefer a drag race from a dead stop.
Good job guys! You should give Top Gear tips on how to run a drag race!
A cayenne turbo would be better matched against a Model X Performance.
Fields Carlisle it was a fair match, one, it's a used older Porsche, cost one third of the model X. The Model X was new and the best it will ever be, compared to the Porsche had have it's best days behind it. If anything, they gave the Tesla an advantage
@DrgnFlys what are you talking about? I'm talking about this comparison. Did they use any of what you described? No. Get your narcissistic behavior out of here. Just commenting on the video, not your agenda or your B.S.
Before you judge me, I own a Model 3. I don't need to wake up to anything. Also, I would never buy a used electric car, it's like buying a 5 year old iPhone that doesn't take updates. Again, I was commenting on what was posted, and what was shown. I can care less beyond that. Also I didn't say who beat what. Your comment is just unfounded. Go harrass someone else with your b.s.
The question is how much is a 2019 Porsche vs 2019 model X 😕. Your 2012 Porsche fuel cost alone could have gotten a Tesla model 3 in those 7yrs.
That doesn't factor in the electricity bill and the cost of a new battery in a few years, not to mention the abysmal depreciation.
@@dk-bw4gk I'm not sure you educated your self enough about electric car and internal combustible engine. Here's a little comparison about a model S with 200k miles in comparison to an Audi A7 and Subaru legacy 🙉 Keep in mind the Porsche SUV gets dismissal Mpg compare to the model X. God's know how many things you have to repair with the Porsche and the cost for those 7yrs old 🙉🙉. Compare 2012 Porsche SUV to 2012 model s see which car depriciated more 👍👍
ruclips.net/video/x3aaYu3Uyj4/видео.html
How much is a 2012 Model X compared to a 2012 Cayenne Turbo? They are just comparing what is possible to buy. There are literally less than 1% of the population who will ever drop $90k on ANY car, but $22k is pretty normal. I would consider buying a model X when they hit $22k.
@@bryanhersman4037 It's a illogical comparison and buying guide given the 2012 Cayenne cost 150k and gets 16/22 mpg. Fuel cost alone after 5 yrs for the Cayenne cost a whooping 50k then after you buy this piece of junk for 22k the repair cost alone to keep this German car will cost more than your purchased price 🙉 then add the fuel cost 💩💩. I'm trying to explain and avoid dumb purchase to an average Joe who would think this will be a good financial purchased decision 👍.
@@rj8u Wow, consider me educated.
In this video, I learned there is more than one internet. I also learned that the fastest thing on them is the depreciation of expensive German SUVs.
ALL luxury cars have stupid depreciation. That's because the people who can afford them new, aren't going to buy them used.
That doesn't say anything about how good they are, since 39 year old Merc sedans are starting to APPRECIATE in value...something a Tesla will never do.
@@billcichoke2534 Wow have your brains been through the dry cleaner multiple times. Not "all" luxiry cars depreciate the same, german one substatially more than any other, becuase they are endless money pits, becuase everything under the hood is plastic and is expected to deal with 300f temperatures....because the germans make it hard for you to change your oil, or anything else for that matter becuase it all requires special tools and code scanners....A tesla is superior and yes, it will appreciate in value, atleast so far they're bearly deprecating at all. That porque could be better performance for the money right now, but in a year after you've spend the same amount of money you bought it for "maintaining" it, you'll realize what a total hunk of garbage german shitboxes are.
@@billcichoke2534 Your mercedes is staring to appreciate in value because it couldn't find a way to depreciate any further....now museums want it to display how not to make "cars"
@@VNCTHE1 Ooo, good one! Think that up by yourself or listening to other EV bobbleheads spewing crap?
The W123 Merc diesel sedans and estate wagons (1976-1985) are probably the longest-lived line of vehicles, with accounts putting the percent of still-driving cars at around 80% or more. Name ONE EV that's doing even CLOSE to that. You can't, because they're crap.
It's okay. That museum space next to the Baker Electric is available for your golf cart when you wake up and grow up.
@@billcichoke2534 The ones made 39 years ago were very well made. The ones in the last decade - not so much.....and hence the rapid depreciation. This isn't exclusive to German auto's, but probably one of the most painful to the wallet.
Maybe talk about the imminent maintenance costs on the Porsche...
Yup.. The Porche is cheaper if it sits there, for the rest of it lifecycle. The model X probably has free charging for life.
dyhppyx they can spend $65,000 on the Porsche maintenance before the equal the cost of the Tesla. So it won’t be an issue.
22k is a good bargain. I used to drool over the new models of anything. But after being stuck at a job I hate and paying all my money in interest, I'm scratching my head wondering why anyone would waste money on cars like this that dont hold value.
Sigh.. another BS, thinly veiled Tesla troll "review" by these two shills. That seems to be a consistent theme for all the "Tesla vs XXXXX" videos this channel produces.. You could do the same video of a brand new Porsche Cayenne Turbo vs that used one and it would look equally as ridiculous because New vs Used is always going to look financially insane. That Porsche cost $109,725 when it was sold brand new (yep, it's lost $87,725 of value in 7 years!) and it probably had another $10-20K in gas/maintenance during that time.
@Tony Tsui I don't care who wins, they're both great performance SUVs 🤷♂️
Yea I know a few (well exactly two) families who have both. Talk about confidence in tesla quality and service center :D
The Model X may have quick acceleration, but the Porsche sounds amazing and can fill up the tank in a minute compared to charging the model x. I still prefer past to “future”
Damn. I was surprised by that. I really thought the Tesla was going to smoke the Porsche in any mode.
Why? Its a standard model with x with a 0-60 of 4.4sec, the 2012 cayenne turbo has a 0-60 of 4.3sec.
On paper the cayenne was faster, and it won by a nose. So it all adds up.
@@stinger15au
Elevation, age of gas engine, exaggeration of German car makers, more things to consider running a gas powered car then just stomping the accelerator like an electric car.............
@@GATORADDAM Porsche is notoriously conservative in thier performance times as are most euro luxury brands.
Not on this channel
Not a fair race. Put that Porsche at sea level to give it a fighting chance. But this is a testament on how reacting time can win a race.
We live and work at a mile above sea level. So do hundreds of millions of people. So you are saying we should go to sea level to make it fair?
@@TFLcar That IS what they said....Sounds like you already had in mind what they were going to say...
Just keep in mind people were ditching their Teslas and looking to rent pick up trucks during the mandatory evacuations in california 😆 And when there is a big earthquake, power could be out for months... you should test charging them with a generator LOL
Can you provide a source to that? I don't really see why people would do that. Teslas' range is high enough to get out of places and newer Model s/x have HEPA filters. Were they moving stuff because I can see that being the case?
@@ValidAsian Electric car owners were calling into radio stations asking for truck rentals. Of course they were loading up stuff.... it's probably like triple the range anxiety lol
www.npr.org/2019/11/08/777752175/with-blackouts-californias-electric-car-owners-are-finding-new-ways-to-charge-up
"Can you charge a Tesla with a portable generator?"
ruclips.net/video/5J5QA8C3S5k/видео.html
@@brandonobaza8610 missed that one, thanks 👍
@@nlitenurmind or u can. go solar, how would gas stations work without electricity huh?
Sigh. The Tesla is the BASE version, not the Performance one. To be fair you should test against a base Cayenne, or use the Performance X. It's like "Wow, an old used BMW M3 is faster and cheaper than a new Toyota Camry!". 🤯
Seems like TFL takes every opportunity they can to make Tesla look bad. At this point it's getting silly with all the unfair comparisons.
"Repairs are bad, charging is bad, range is bad, performance is bad".
If it was so bad it's pretty strange that you seem to use it in all your videos as one can see it in the background quite often.
So, why don't we see ANY positive Tesla reviews? And why don't we see all bad reviews for any other brands?
Why no mention of what the Porsche cost new, or the running costs of it since new? Because that would make the Tesla shine, but we can't have that can we.
My guess is you're sponsored by someone who doesn't like Tesla. 👎
tali sson because the base cayenne is 200bhp less than a model x and $20k cheaper. These two are the most comparable power outputs.
Not sponsored but Roman is an American muscle car loving petrol head. Also,he doesn't like innovation and he is conservative. I don't get why everyone always finds the bad out of Tesla when there are many more good. It is AMERICAN. We always talk sht about buying American but most of us just continue to buy Chinese. All talk no action. And we attack an ALL AMERICAN company. TESLA IS AN AMERICAN COMPANY WITH CARS MADE IN AMERICA.
To be somewhat fair, this is all about marketing. I'm willing to bet that TFL's number of views has dramatically increased as they started the Tesla reviews and that their target market loves to hear Roman dump on Tesla.
But the car is also 7 years old, a new Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid, would probably smoke a Model X Performance
And then test an 7 year old Tesla Performance Vehicle against a 7year old Cayenne Turbo, it would also loose
The Tesla was barely slower in normal suspension mode with + 70 Pounds added on top. If you had Tommy in the Tesla in regular suspension, it would have won. Not to mention the lowered Suspension race. IF you are going to compare, at least mention these things after the race.
infamousnachi what gets me is that they know lower suspension is faster. It’s easier than putting the Porsche in “sports” mode (which lowers the car).
New car comes with a warranty. Probably still a better deal but you need to factor that in.
How about a race from the Mexican border to the Canadian border on highway 101 and see what's faster. Oh ya the Porsche cause it takes 5 minutes to fill and has several hundred thousand fill stations across the country. The Tesla takes 30 Minutes recharges for good distances and has a tenth of the places to charge.
I have an old (2005) Cayenne Turbo and a Model X Performance 2019.... the Cayenne has always had major issues from class action suits to tons of recalls because of fuel leakage.
I'll take the past over the future any day, thanks :D
ok boomer.
@@eemage9476 I'm 23 but alright.
Hahaha let the guy have his cayenne in piece!
Used Porches are very cheap for a reason. Great buy if it holds together but parts and qualified mechanics are high doller.
These weeny boys are perfect for electrics. I bet they are Demoncrats too.🤣
How could ya tell?!🤣🤣🤣
Shit, buy a friggn golfcart, it's the same as a TesticleLA! 🤣🤣
The Porsche is still a lot more at the brand new price. So comparing new for new the tesla is a way better bang for the buck.
How is this a fair price comparison??
What if you hold the brake and press the accelerator pedal, let the car squat, and then you get off the brake in the model x? Just like in the porsche.
We need as many videos with that cayenne as possible! Take it off road too! It has locking differentials and a true low range
Is the Turbo really only worth $22k after 7 years??
I’ve seen lower mileage examples from that year for around $17k. These aren’t exactly desirable after they’re a few years old.
They are trash after 5 years
Porsche's, like all premium German cars, plummet in value after the warranty period is over. No one wants to be stuck with the maintenance bills. On the plus side, they are one hell of a deal... Unless you get the one that will set you back several thousand in the shop.
I have no idea how German cars ever got the reputation of being quality cars. Great marketing, the lure of elite-ness, the fact that they're expensive and only rich people drive them, a combination of all?
Whatever the reason, it's nonsense! They are and have always been poor quality. Fast when new, nice plush interior but basically junk and a terrible investment. The Japanese have always owned quailty and probably always will!
@@billh2294
This is not necessarily true (Porsche's drop value like most German makes).
Most of Porsche's sports cars hold high value, more than you can say about most other manufacturer's and their sports cars. Even the Panamera sedan holds high value as well.
For whatever reason the Cayenne doesn't hold as much value as their other vehicles. Nonetheless, TFL got a good deal on theirs as most Cayenne Turbos from that year sell between $27-37K+. Guess, the mileage (120,000 miles) has something to do with it as well.
Guess even twin turbo can't overcome altitude :) Good runs, am glad you guys found the secret sauce of SUVs
where did you get that porshe for 22 i want one...lmao
Now i'm interested, Paul's going to be dropped into the mix.
Time to do a tug-of-war with a Model X and Ford 150 4WD. 1M hits guaranteed!
Around the track will be fun to see
Fun video. I need to check that out sometime. We live fairly close to that track. Heidi
At 2:47 bravo! Authenticity, what everybody is lacking
Why does everyone only drag the Tesla? There are countless videos about mx-5, Civic, mustang, Challenger, etc on the track but apparently Tesla's can only go straight. My street bike goes fast straight too, but that's only 10% of what it does.
Why would it be a firewall to the frunk? :P
Lol good point
Regulations are dumb
Racing SUVs on a track. Why?
The better question is: Why Not?
LOL... as if anyone drives SUVs off road!
niacal4nia, don't you even RUclips? You should know how this works!
Nice test guys! Even at this cost difference, the maintenance, repair and fuel and resale value considered the model X is a much better buy, not to mention no smoke or pollution lol
Let's compare a top-spec Cayenne to a regular Model X
These guys are always trying their best to make Tesla look bad.
I want those RUclips Boomer channels to stop talking about electric cars .
First time with cameras on both sides of the finish line? I like it!
Love your channel. Most interesting car content.
I've never seen a transmission shift be so dramatic in a win or lose situation
It’s common sense that the car will be better at acceleration when lowered, since it has less air resistance.
Jon Snow and it seems the Porsche has to be put in sports mode to lower the car so why didn’t they not do that for the first race?
Chris Bates we did!
with the altitude and short distance, air resistance not going to be a big factor in two giant slugs racing
My old LS4 454 with Munci 4 speed corvette does 0-60 in 5 seconds easy at over 6000 feet I too am in Colorado. If I would not do a roll out and dump the clutch I am sure I would be in the 4 second range. My Big block is making over 500ft lbs at the rear wheels. No adders just cubes.
These trucks are heavyweights.
you should have put a Hamster and Hamster Wheel into the Teslas Frunk before Filming :D
a glowing green rock in a clear plastic case would be funny too
If no help (subsidies) provided for either one people would not think twice about buying electric due to Gas being 7/8 dollars per Gallon.
7 years is old? 170,000 miles is lot? I agree...For Porsche all of that is true. It would be interesting to see the pages of maintenance done with total cost and current list of error codes. Probably pages of that too. Then compare that with the Tesla as it may be about the same age. What 5 years old for the Tesla?
DATE MILES SERVICE SERVICE SERVICE SERVICE SERVICE SERVICE SERVICE TOTAL COST
8/13/12 9163 Oil change Replace left rear PDCC $251.01
7/22/13 19255 Oil change Hydraulic Brake Flush $462.02
10/16/14 26107 Oil change $270.21
12/2/14 26673 Tire change Balance Alligment $1,585.14
1/14/15 27789 Engine replaced Coolant fluid $0
9/8/15 31410 Oil change $306.26
2/10/16 38296 Oil change Hydraulic Brake Flush Cabin filters Engine Filters $821.79
4/29/16 39059 Replace rear PDCC $78.85
9/13/16 43325 Oil change $301.22
6/19/17 49556 Oil change fuel gauge sensors $650.96
8/31/17 58970 Oil change spark plugs wheel balance $1,150
3/7/18 62095 replace front break pads $841.73
8/2/18 64435 Oil change Hydraulic Brake Flush $465.68
8/16/18 67000 Hitch Re enforcement break controller install $1,000
8/28/18 70500 Oil change wiper blades Engine Filters checked, need to be replaced at 100k $145
10/21/18 72500 PDCC reservoir and fluid New tires Cabin filter Steering wheel reservoir and fluid Alligment $1,950
12/7/18 75280 Oil change $75
5/30/19 80500 Oil change New Oil housing cap Front, Center, Rear diff oil change $310
5/31/19 80500 Full Transmition service Coolant flush Battery Belt Replacement $3,275
7/26/19 86300 Oil change Spark plugs Coils $1,350
Test the Tesla on snow & ice Vs gas vehicles.
Now I know I can be faster than a Porsche suv from 7 years ago, and the same fast-ness as a Tesla 100d. I wish I could live close to a race track...
Same technique I would use on my ranger rover sport supercharged. A little torque load results in a little pucker haha
My two dream cars😍🥰
For the next race, you should have less battery stored. Less weight in electricity should make it faster
Hahhahha. Great one!
the turbos are somewhat self correcting for altitude and the power loss is much much less than in a normally aspirated car. the altitude isnt as big an issue.
I wasn't clear on how many miles that Turbo has? is it 120K (0:55), 170K (4:43) or 117K (7:11)? either way that Porsche still kicks ass.
117,000
That cayenne is super fast off the starting line
Good job Tommy on first run!
Thank you. But I think escalade is better.
I'd pay 22k for the Porsche well before I'd pay almost $90k for that ugly Tesla any day.
So which is more reliable then?
Tommy! You're out of warranty! Tune the S out of that Effer!
Should be good for 700bhp.
Drive 200 miles then run them...oops tesla is parked with a flat battery 🤖
What’s the total cost per mile of running a new Porsche Cayenne against a new Tesla model S.
Depreciation, fuel, servicing, taxes, etc.
By the looks of it (wild guess) that Porsche cost $1000 per month in depreciation alone.
I think Roman did a review of the Porsche Cayenne 7 years ago
It’s not really the future unless the Tesla can beat the old Porsche in a 12 hour drive while towing a trailer. Load them up and see which car gets further in 12 hours while hauling a trailer .
Don’t get me wrong , my wife and I are planning on buying a Tesla next year but we are also keeping one conventional vehicle for family trips. Nothing worse when travelling with 3 kids under 8 than adding an hour of charging for every 4-5 hours of driving just to charge.
So you don't stop to eat or pee after 4-5 hours? I feel for your kids and wife....Also, you shouldn't ever charge for an hour unless you plan to eat. Even then, you'll likely finish charging before you finish eating. Usually on a multi-charge trip, you only charge for 15-20 minutes (a pee and stretch break) so you can reach the next charger.
For a 12 hour trip (~720 miles), in my Model 3, I'd start off with a full charge (from home overnight),
drive ~250 miles (4 hours),
charge, pee, get a snack for 25 min (~200 miles),
drive another 200 miles (3.3 hrs),
charge close to full and eat (45 min),
drive 150 miles - 2.5 hrs (or more if the food isn't making me sleepy),
take a break and stretch while charging 10 minutes,
then drive the 120 miles to my destination with plenty of range to spare,
This doesn't count the fact that I can plug into any outlet at my destination to charge up while not using the car.
Have fun servicing a 7 year old Cayenne Turbo. That's why it's $22k. It's a downpayment.
Hi Tommy 🙂. Is the Porsche Cayenne your daily driver? I was thinking it's the Touraeg that's your daily driver but not sure.
So if you use the same logic, then the old Porsche for 22k is a better buy than a new camry hybrid, since its faster and costs less.
Not sure what this exercise was all about? Value for money? When comparing an old ICE car with new EV.
You guys a have very good videos...but when doing drags, then ensure for fairness, that the starter claps their hands to start...because with this starter exactly when do you start??? at the top or bottom with hands moving down...as I saw it, the son took off first each time
Reading through the comments, some folks need to give their heads a shake. First off, this was a fair race. Sure, there were a bunch of variables that favored one car or the other but that's why you race them, to get an actual real world result! Lets run through some of the main variables:
7 year old Porsche- advantage Tesla
More HP-Advantage Porsche
BEV the heaviest car - Advantage Porsche
Mile above sea level - Advantage Tesla
Not performance Tesla - Advantage Porsche
Has a transmission - Advantage Tesla
I can't recall which tires were on each vehicle - advantage ?
The central question in all this is if you can buy performance on the cheap. The answer is: Yes you can. If your main concern is nothing but getting something that runs fast for as few dollars as possible then look on the used car market. If your concern is getting something that's going to beat pretty much everything else out there in a drag race and you have ~$100,000 in your pocket then you should get the performance edition of the Tesla. (Actually you should get the performance edition of the Model S). All that being said, the average person needs a vehicle for a variety of tasks. Drag racing is pretty low on the list.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment!
Don't think so, but good to see IRL
Love my ‘04 cayenne turbo: 64,000 miles
wow you didn't feel like driving it much then .
@@ltpessimist4170 yeah it was my dad's in 04 and he hardly drove it, then he gave it to me last year for a winter vehicle and it has an incredible AWD system.
If you're going to race head to head, how about using comparable vehicles?? A Tesla P100 D or a new Dual Motor Ludicrous. That Porsche was about $145k new and the Tesla is $85.....
Then let's see a 2012 Tesla Model XP100D. Oh wait they didn't exist so moot point.
I thought you guys were going to turn that tesla X into a off-road machine?
Test: Who's rich guy blob is better.
Slander is fun
Cayenne turbo 180k. And better comparison would be performance on Tesla model since top on Porsche for cayenne. Not a good comparison. Model x is 2.7s 0-60 if performance version I think. I own a Porsche and I get beat by Tesla all the time and every model just saying. Tesla is pretty amazing. Plus I have a Hellcat and also launch get beat but I take em in the stretch