In this video we begin looking at a 2002 Avalon plagued with a P1354 fault code. This code is in reference to the VVT system for Bank 2 of this vehicle. Enjoy!
I was happhy to see a new vid today from triangle diag! Its been a while we miss ya man. That is a mighty sweet stash if I've ever seen one buddy. Glad to see your back. Love how you explain your process so thoroughly. Thanks for what u do my friend
Thanks buddy! Always LOVE your videos. I just purchased a couple of those Braun LED lights from HF and I love them! Thank you soooo much for your efforts, I appreciate them!
Be wary of resistance checks on solenoids. The ohm's check on an injector can be normal and still not function. Using a pressure drop test with power to the injector will give a result. Maybe a power probe to the solenoid might give an indication ? Looking forward to part 2. All the best for the New Year.
How involved can the repair get beyond the solenoids/filters and blowing out thephasers, if it doesn't fix the problem? I'm looking at a avalon being sold with the vvt disconnected. Stumbles violently under load
Sir I have avalon 2008 there is acceleration problem. In full hot condition. Then we going 40-80 speed seden rpm 0 came. After 3 second came back acceleration. I change throtel body and acceleration padel but same. There is no any DTC.
Hey Joe, Nice Video. Because the solenoid resistance is close to what you might expect in a fuel injector, would it not be possible to use a fuel injector pulse tester to verify the mechanical operation while the solenoid is out of the car? I'd imagine that you could even scope the current waveform for a closer look…. Just a thought, could be over kill but, I've never seen anyone do that before and it might be interesting.... Let me know what you think.
I think you totally could, but just as easily could just jumper it. As for the current measurement, I wish I would have. We could probably see clear indications of mechanical movement on a current waveform of this solenoid. Another missed opportunity 😔.
My 02 Lexus ES300 with 3.0v6 is having hesitation issues if I floor it from a idle or stomp it to pass on Hwy. Check engine light gives code p1350 which is camshaft position sensor, could it be fixed by replacing it or do I have a symptom of another issue
a couple of thoughts- 1) its a sollenoid so you may be able to detect a magnetic field when activated albeit weak. 2) swap bank 1 with bank 2 to see if it follows since the rear bank is working.
Can’t swap. Solenoids are left and right handed. He should have applied battery voltage to it to check function. Also there is a filter screen accessed on the end of the cylinder head.
Im wondering why my 02 avalon isnt staying charged i got a new battery and alternator left the battery attached and was having problems even turning it it wont even turn now idk what is happening mabye the aftermarket stario is draining it any ideas
I've done a few of these, this is a real pain to debug because once the ECU see's an issue positioning the actuator it won't send a 12v PWM to the coil. So, you go along thinking you may have a circuit or driver issue but that's its fail safe state, I think when you go to actuate the solenoid with Techstream it says something like "Cannot perform this operation" . These usually seize under the crimped shell of the coil, they get dust and dirt in there and it can't move the rod of the actuator up into the electromagnet. It's interesting, every one I've ever done was a Bank 2, which is nice because its the easiest to get to. I hate, hate, hate changing these without any definitive fail data but replacing it always solved it. You can try swapping it with Bank 1 to see if it moves with the change, but Bank 1 is tough to get to. BTW, on the top engine cover the Toyota emblem is the third hold down fastener, you're supposed to turn the emblem to disengage it.
I'm going to edit my comment, and I'm doing this from memory (which isn't very good) but I'm thinking you can't swap these, maybe it was the connector was different or something kept you from being able to do that.
I do in fact think they are different on these. Stlll a good testing technique regardless. Thanks for the heads up on the fail safe situation, I'm definitely going to keep it in mind!
Hello..Can you explain why the brakes at weird when having this code?..It happened to me and it driving me nuts as to the connection.. Unless its the ECM that causing a reaction? HELP..I've fixed by replacing solenoid but my little brain news to know what the brakes have to do with it..
Correct me if I'm missing the obvious here, but, while you had the solenoid out, why didn't you just jumper it to the battery to check whether it still moved? -I mean, resistance checks out, ok, but that doesn't prevent it from being physically stuck.
You know what works great on these babies ? A fuel injector tester/pulser. But of course adapt the leads to be fused with a 2amp fuse to prevent the pulser from letting the smoke out . If you are lucky enough to find a pulser that handles the low resistance injectors like the kentmoore one they could handle the solenoid for a 1 second grounding as well
Keith DeFazio, I certainly like that idea, I've done it on some lower amperage solenoid before like purge valves to catch a leak, but id be a little scared to try my OTC one on anything much bigger lol.
the verus is missing important pids actual vs desired degrees! secondly you can apply power and ground to the solenoid with jumper wires and the engine should run rough. maybe try backprobing both solenoids see a square wave control. but your a good technician man! you look like your the go to man at your shop
I've changed a lot of camshaft actuators/phasers when I was working at the dealership. European market. Not saying it's the case here but I'm pretty curious for part 2 😁
My 02 Lexus es300 is having a hesitation issues when I floor it or pass someone. Code is p1350 which is camshaft position sensor, could that seriously be my issue? Starts and runs fine, just hesitates when I give it gas quickly, if I gas it slowly it's fine. That sound like failing camshaft position sensor to you? Any help will be greatly appreciated
I have a 2000. It has 285000 miles, and drives like a dream. I had to replace the vvt solenoids. The filter screen is on the driver side of the bank, on the side. It is held by a 14 mm bolt. In this car you are working on, engine oil has been changed regularly, as the vvt solenoids is very clean. But the screen may be blocked and hence the problem. If it is, change both of them on bank 1 and 2. They are cheap. Do not use after market because the screen is not tight. A new vvt should be about 50 to 100 bucks.
Good morning everyone. Please I need help on how to fix my Toyota Avalon 2004. Since 2 years now my Avalon keep jetting. I have tried so many mechanic but all of them keep working on my injection and plug. But the jetting keep coming. But to my surprise the car will stop jetting some times and when u think is fine. It will start jetting again especially when am using AC. Please I need assistance on what the problem is. Thanks
I checked my vvti solenoids all working with 12volts,oil clean screens perfect,hooked it back up ran bad,un-plugged them it ran perfect,not scoffing gas faultless,have cel and trac lite up,i just going to run with that till i can get a scan(remote area) ....
why not function test it while you had it out? just put it in series with tail/brake/headlamp bulb onto the battery and see if it activates and returns properly :)
So I have a 2005 Avalon with 215,xxx miles on it, just drove from Virginia to Chicago. I already knew that I had existing transmission issues but it wasn't that bad and at most would stall when put into gear (automatic transmission). Getting on the highway after a gas stop it was stuck in first gear up to 70 miles an hour, yes I know I'm stupid not paying attention to it, had my music way too loud. Anyway after redlining for probably 10 seconds I heard a grinding noise near the timing chain area and now it idles like it has a bad cylinder. V6 3.5. Most people guess it's a cam issue but I've had a couple people say they think I messed up a rod, it sounds like a rod knock at idle but it drives full power and sounds relatively normal while at 750+ rpms. Anyone have any clue? Popped a code for camshaft exhaust timing over retarded and one for the previously existing o2 sensor, so probably just a cam phaser gear or something cam related just not sure
You can repair there is one secret open inside a small voice gland there is a change Opa close it then it works there is no need to install a new one if the electric motor is working
Triangle Diagnostics the speed of the datastream on these older Toyota's is inherent to the vehicle. If you labscope the data packets you'll see why. Your scan tool will be the packets with the slightly raised ground. You'll notice how little a chance the scantool gets a chance to request in the network traffic 😉
I was happhy to see a new vid today from triangle diag! Its been a while we miss ya man. That is a mighty sweet stash if I've ever seen one buddy. Glad to see your back. Love how you explain your process so thoroughly. Thanks for what u do my friend
Thanks buddy! Always LOVE your videos. I just purchased a couple of those Braun LED lights from HF and I love them! Thank you soooo much for your efforts, I appreciate them!
Thanks so much man. These Braun lights are absolutely epic. Best thing to get from HF right now!
Welcome back!!! I miss your videos.
Thank so much, glad you enjoy. I'm sorry I cant upload as much as I'd like 😔😔
Great video Joe! On my way to part 2!
I like the way you take yours time to explain everything thank you very much happy new year
Be wary of resistance checks on solenoids. The ohm's check on an injector can be normal and still not function. Using a pressure drop test with power to the injector will give a result. Maybe a power probe to the solenoid might give an indication ? Looking forward to part 2. All the best for the New Year.
Nice digging into it Joe, and I'm sure you'll get it all figured out! :) :)
hey joe there's a filter oil port that can be accessed just below the solenoid. large bolt head on the side. probably fixed already but fyi.
Dude you were great come back and make more videos!!!!
How involved can the repair get beyond the solenoids/filters and blowing out thephasers, if it doesn't fix the problem? I'm looking at a avalon being sold with the vvt disconnected. Stumbles violently under load
Sir I have avalon 2008 there is acceleration problem. In full hot condition. Then we going 40-80 speed seden rpm 0 came. After 3 second came back acceleration. I change throtel body and acceleration padel but same. There is no any DTC.
Hey Joe, Nice Video. Because the solenoid resistance is close to what you might expect in a fuel injector, would it not be possible to use a fuel injector pulse tester to verify the mechanical operation while the solenoid is out of the car? I'd imagine that you could even scope the current waveform for a closer look…. Just a thought, could be over kill but, I've never seen anyone do that before and it might be interesting.... Let me know what you think.
I think you totally could, but just as easily could just jumper it. As for the current measurement, I wish I would have. We could probably see clear indications of mechanical movement on a current waveform of this solenoid. Another missed opportunity 😔.
My 02 Lexus ES300 with 3.0v6 is having hesitation issues if I floor it from a idle or stomp it to pass on Hwy. Check engine light gives code p1350 which is camshaft position sensor, could it be fixed by replacing it or do I have a symptom of another issue
a couple of thoughts- 1) its a sollenoid so you may be able to detect a magnetic field when activated albeit weak. 2) swap bank 1 with bank 2 to see if it follows since the rear bank is working.
richard cranium, thats a solid testing technique for sure! Swaptronics ftw!
Can’t swap. Solenoids are left and right handed. He should have applied battery voltage to it to check function. Also there is a filter screen accessed on the end of the cylinder head.
Im wondering why my 02 avalon isnt staying charged i got a new battery and alternator left the battery attached and was having problems even turning it it wont even turn now idk what is happening mabye the aftermarket stario is draining it any ideas
I've done a few of these, this is a real pain to debug because once the ECU see's an issue positioning the actuator it won't send a 12v PWM to the coil. So, you go along thinking you may have a circuit or driver issue but that's its fail safe state, I think when you go to actuate the solenoid with Techstream it says something like "Cannot perform this operation" . These usually seize under the crimped shell of the coil, they get dust and dirt in there and it can't move the rod of the actuator up into the electromagnet. It's interesting, every one I've ever done was a Bank 2, which is nice because its the easiest to get to. I hate, hate, hate changing these without any definitive fail data but replacing it always solved it. You can try swapping it with Bank 1 to see if it moves with the change, but Bank 1 is tough to get to. BTW, on the top engine cover the Toyota emblem is the third hold down fastener, you're supposed to turn the emblem to disengage it.
I'm going to edit my comment, and I'm doing this from memory (which isn't very good) but I'm thinking you can't swap these, maybe it was the connector was different or something kept you from being able to do that.
I do in fact think they are different on these. Stlll a good testing technique regardless. Thanks for the heads up on the fail safe situation, I'm definitely going to keep it in mind!
I have also seen quite a few of these suckers stuck, most of them come in stuck on causing rough running at least from what I have seen.
Hello..Can you explain why the brakes at weird when having this code?..It happened to me and it driving me nuts as to the connection.. Unless its the ECM that causing a reaction? HELP..I've fixed by replacing solenoid but my little brain news to know what the brakes have to do with it..
We see a few Toyota's in the shop... this will come in handy! Off to part 2.
Happy New Year & all the best to you & yours!!!!
Interesting, Thanks!
Correct me if I'm missing the obvious here, but, while you had the solenoid out, why didn't you just jumper it to the battery to check whether it still moved? -I mean, resistance checks out, ok, but that doesn't prevent it from being physically stuck.
You're absolutely right, we're getting there in part 2!
and I should have looked through comments before saying the same thing above somewhere. :))
You know what works great on these babies ? A fuel injector tester/pulser. But of course adapt the leads to be fused with a 2amp fuse to prevent the pulser from letting the smoke out . If you are lucky enough to find a pulser that handles the low resistance injectors like the kentmoore one they could handle the solenoid for a 1 second grounding as well
Keith DeFazio, I certainly like that idea, I've done it on some lower amperage solenoid before like purge valves to catch a leak, but id be a little scared to try my OTC one on anything much bigger lol.
the verus is missing important pids actual vs desired degrees! secondly you can apply power and ground to the solenoid with jumper wires and the engine should run rough. maybe try backprobing both solenoids see a square wave control. but your a good technician man! you look like your the go to man at your shop
Im not sure if it's the Verus or just the supported data PID's from the vehicle. As for jumping the solenoid stay tuned for part 2!
Can you show the easiest way to change the coil pack under the intake for a 2002 Toyota Avalon xls model.
And VVT bank 1
Brother so looking towards part 2. Vacationing in Florida. Still take time for all my YT buddies.
Richard Gill, thanks brother! Man I wish I was in Florida right now!Enjoy the break!
I've changed a lot of camshaft actuators/phasers when I was working at the dealership. European market. Not saying it's the case here but I'm pretty curious for part 2 😁
My 02 Lexus es300 is having a hesitation issues when I floor it or pass someone. Code is p1350 which is camshaft position sensor, could that seriously be my issue? Starts and runs fine, just hesitates when I give it gas quickly, if I gas it slowly it's fine. That sound like failing camshaft position sensor to you? Any help will be greatly appreciated
I have a 2000. It has 285000 miles, and drives like a dream. I had to replace the vvt solenoids. The filter screen is on the driver side of the bank, on the side. It is held by a 14 mm bolt. In this car you are working on, engine oil has been changed regularly, as the vvt solenoids is very clean. But the screen may be blocked and hence the problem. If it is, change both of them on bank 1 and 2. They are cheap. Do not use after market because the screen is not tight. A new vvt should be about 50 to 100 bucks.
Hi, my car have problem , error code on dashboard on select ganger display d ,2
I replace both oil control valve n still getting the p1354 / p1663 codes
Good morning everyone. Please I need help on how to fix my Toyota Avalon 2004. Since 2 years now my Avalon keep jetting. I have tried so many mechanic but all of them keep working on my injection and plug. But the jetting keep coming. But to my surprise the car will stop jetting some times and when u think is fine. It will start jetting again especially when am using AC. Please I need assistance on what the problem is. Thanks
I checked my vvti solenoids all working with 12volts,oil clean screens perfect,hooked it back up ran bad,un-plugged them it ran perfect,not scoffing gas faultless,have cel and trac lite up,i just going to run with that till i can get a scan(remote area) ....
can a bad VVT cause a camshaft positioning sensor code P0340. ?
Depends on the engine. Is it this engine? If so, then no not likely.
why not function test it while you had it out? just put it in series with tail/brake/headlamp bulb onto the battery and see if it activates and returns properly :)
So I have a 2005 Avalon with 215,xxx miles on it, just drove from Virginia to Chicago. I already knew that I had existing transmission issues but it wasn't that bad and at most would stall when put into gear (automatic transmission). Getting on the highway after a gas stop it was stuck in first gear up to 70 miles an hour, yes I know I'm stupid not paying attention to it, had my music way too loud. Anyway after redlining for probably 10 seconds I heard a grinding noise near the timing chain area and now it idles like it has a bad cylinder. V6 3.5. Most people guess it's a cam issue but I've had a couple people say they think I messed up a rod, it sounds like a rod knock at idle but it drives full power and sounds relatively normal while at 750+ rpms. Anyone have any clue? Popped a code for camshaft exhaust timing over retarded and one for the previously existing o2 sensor, so probably just a cam phaser gear or something cam related just not sure
sparkplug or injection
Enjoyed the vid!
Please make more auto repair videos !!!!
You can repair there is one secret open inside a small voice gland there is a change Opa close it then it works there is no need to install a new one if the electric motor is working
Grasias
Bro u are looking at bank 1 fuel trims when you are trying to control bank 2 OCV
FYI
Like ur videos tho
At first it looked that way to me as well. Went back and he is on bank 2. I misinterpreted the camera angle.
The screen is deep down in the hole where you had pulled the solenoid !
Clearly it's those leaves.
Try autel 906bt??
I'd love to get one
Triangle Diagnostics the speed of the datastream on these older Toyota's is inherent to the vehicle. If you labscope the data packets you'll see why. Your scan tool will be the packets with the slightly raised ground. You'll notice how little a chance the scantool gets a chance to request in the network traffic 😉
Keith DeFazio, good to know my friend!
Aftermarket VVTI solenoids are cheap $12 each
No disrespect intended but has anybody told you look like the guy from American History X. Well at least with the hat on
A mechanics stethoscope probably would of picked up if the solenoid was operating......
old school.
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Avalon the worst Toyotas car
They’re ugly af but they’re so comfortable and luxurious. I have an old one and I get so many compliments