During the clone wars under Rex the 501st are shown to be heroic, but after Rex defects during order 66 and under Vader and Appo, the 501st were definitely evil.
all clone trooper units under the empire were evil, so saying the 501st is evil bc of its role after the clone wars isnt a valid point imo as the 212th was just as evil under the empire, and the recon corps, and etc etc
You forgot the Coruscant Guard. They were just as evil as the Galactic Marines, if not more evil. They didn’t just have a police state mentality, they were a police state.
The Coruscant Guard basically created the playbook for the future Stormtrooper Corps. They were true at-home occupiers, famous for such missions as (checks notes) forcing people out of their homes at gunpoint when the Galactic government seized control of their properties to build military staging areas while offering them no monetary compensation, and (checks notes again) ah yes, violently suppressing peaceful protests against the forced evictions, and who could forget (checks notes one more time) acting as hit squads tasked with silencing whistleblowers at the behest of the Chancellor. What heroes.
Chances were that by the end of the Clone Wars many units of clones were committing a lot of war crimes against the citizens of the Galaxy, and the sad truth was many of these clones probably became a lot more grim and monstrous as they saw so many of their brothers lost during the war.
Yeah I think the same. I mean Wolffe and his men hated mercy missions, but at the end they did their job and they did it well. I'd put them at the same ad the 212th on the Evil list
They also didn’t see much large scale action.. probably the most was that time they went to see the banking clan/ treasury … and when the home world was attacked directly.. other than that not much but security and policing..
If I had to do my list it would be Most evil to least -Galactic Marines -Coruscant Guard -91st Corps (Under Neyo's command) -41st Elite Corps -327th Star Corps -501st legion (under Rex's command) -212th Attack Battalion -104th Wolfpack
Probably similar category to the 212th. But of course, no Clone is good on this channel. (Because Geetsly's is pro-Sepratist, and at this point, considering the Empire and the FIrst Order, who isn't?)
Yeah, I figured the Galactic Marines and 501st would be bottom. But the 41st was a surprise, I never knew they were they were Tarkan simps and bigots. The 212th was expected, being lead by one of the most wholesome Jedi and having guys like Waxer and Boil with them helps in that respect. They really are a wholesome unit, if fighting for the wrong side.
No, the Republic is the right side, that it became the Empire doesn't change that. The Republic was in need of reform, yet remained benevolent. The separatists were openly controlled by the Sith, were even more beholden to corporations, and committed far worse war crimes than the Republic.
How sad that the 91st lead by Neyo who’s among the worst of all commanders are so high yet the 501st led by perhaps the best clone of all time Captain Rex is so low. Nice to see the Yellow Orange boys in 212th take the top spot.
Mostly because in the Clone Wars the only 501st stuff was shown was Torrent company which had Rex, Jesse, Hardcase, Tup, Fives, Kix, Dogma and Appo. Torrent company were actually good men in the 501st
@@CT--xj5jf Maybe not fully good, more like Dogma, someone who just wants to be a good soldier, against their better judgment. Personally, of the four 501st Commanders, I view them like this Rex Good, Appo Low-Eevil at worst Neutral at best, Vill Evil. and Voca Evil.
Personally, I think the 501st should at least be above the 41st and maybe even tied with 327th, sure later they started doing more nefarious things, but that's true for a lot of people during the Clone Wars since as the war kept dragging on and people were getting tired of it so they started making moral compromises to end things quicker so they could finally get peace, so we should take that into consideration, and before that moment they did a lot of good, they too helped Ryloth and deal with the Zygerrians, I'm at least certain the quarter of the 501st under Rex's command(since the 501st had four commanders) were just as morally good as the 212th at least but the other 3/4's which were most likely the ones that did the more nefarious stuff like Mygetto because there's no way Rex would be okay with deceiving Jedi, brings them down on the list a bit, but not into the evil category for me their neutral or just slightly evil. 8:19-8:26: Well, I completely disagree with that. I for one think the 212th and probably the Wolf Pack were good Clone Units. There were many good people still fighting for the Republic, I would be one of them if I lived in the Star Wars universe, you can't blame them for whatever role they played in the rise of the Empire, especially if it was a small one like people who were just in tech support, or who just cleaned the bathrooms or something, you going to call them evil? Palpatine was a master manipulator he manipulated the good people on both sides into fighting and invitingly creating the Empire, but many of them were still good, did good during the war, and will always be heroes to me. I mean Palpatine was good at keeping people in the dark so they thought they were doing good, just look at the Death Star that was a massive project that required a lot of work, and many of the people who helped build it didn't know they were building a super weapon, many of them were independent contractors or companies that had been enlisted to help build one aspect of the weapon but were told it was for something different, like the anti-gravity stuff that kept it in orbit the people working on that were told it was going to be used to build floating cities for new land for people to live, or those that helped with the large power sources they were told that it would be used to give energy to those that need and help with good projects, are we really going to blame these people and call them evil. I mean there's a reason Palpatine and so many lied to them about what they were really building because they knew if people knew the truth they wouldn't willingly help, I mean just look at Galen Irso, when he found out what his research was really being used for he defected and left.
It's also worth noting that Gree's way of thinking was one of Thrawn's biggest influences, so much so that he has his helmet enshrined in his office. If you can control culture, you can control a war.
My ranking would be 1. 21st nova corps and 501st Legion (under Appo and Vader) 2. Coruscant Guard 3. 91st Recon Corps (under Neto’s command) 4. 41st Elite Corps (From now on this are the better units) 5. 327th Star Corps 6. 91st (under Ponds) 501st Legion (Clone wars Era and led by Rex and Anakin) 7. 7th Sky Corps 8. 104th Batallion Shoutout to Juan Gomez for inspiring me to do this
Even though we weren't given much info, nor were they given much screen time, based on what we do see I'd say Keeli's boys would have to be near the top too
I feel that the acts committed by clone legions are the best indication of their generals' morality. Thus Kenobi's 212th and Plo Koon's 104th were the most good. The best Jedi create the best soldiers.
What about the 104th? They ran a relief mission to Aleen, and rescued an entire colony of Togruta people from the Zygerians Slavers? Admittedly they're not exactly good, seeing as a Clone Pilot and Commander Wolffe himself didn't seem sympathetic to those in need.
Even on a listing that’s generally aimed at bad clone troopers, Mundi just couldn’t help but pop his big ol head in. Man is peak galactic bantha fodder
“Morality” is not fit in soldier’s vocabulary. Because I can’t understand how “morality” can fit to any soldier who have to follow order own officers that may give them very disgusting orders like “bombing citizens houses, schools, hospitals even enemy and their citizens still here.” War is disgusting thing that each humans shall not be forgotten.
In Star Wars Legends, my take is probably the 501st Legion. Them lasting far longer "helps". Not sure about the Alt-universe yet. In my Multiversal headcanon, probably some rogue magical girl combat clone task groups assigned for blacker-than-black ops and experimental testbed nuances, among surface-level roles. Edit: Babylon 5 is still the better show. BSG 2003 is slowly but surely aging like milk, particularly in its second half.
@@JuanGomez-bs6ue I didn’t mean they were lesser known units. I don’t really know a whole lot more units other than these three. I was referring to the other units like the yellow ones in Fallen Order.
I’m surprised that the corasusant guards aren’t in tbis video I think that are the worst because of how bad do they treat nonhumans and Jedi and you know them being palpatines private army.I think with the context the galactic marines where not all that bad, sure they did what they had to in order to secure their victory but so did many other units in the republic. Also I think Bacara being so cold was poorly from a military point of view a good think. Don’t get me wrong be under him would suck but in the overall grand scrum of things I don’t thing it was that bad as Bacara did eventually win.
Anyone else notice how many of these “Evil” clone videos are kinda just recycled with different images? If you go back you can find one or two vids exactly like this with an almost identical list?
Then in Legends you've got Alpha-17, who was totally amoral and supported assassination of planetary leaders in order to end conflict more quickly. Battle of Jabiim was a great comic series by Dark Horse.
You know, I’m basically fighting the urge by now to label Geetsly’s videos as clickbait, like how some people posted articles saying Sir Topham Hatt from Thomas & Friends was a cruel dictator to his engines, ignoring the obvious fact he’s keeping steam engines and diesels who don’t work as well in operation instead of scrapping them, especially since they keep getting into expensive crashes and accidents. To be fair to Geetsly, his info is from Legends which is clearly the darker of the two Star Wars timelines. As a Canon fan, I should respect that. Except Geetsly used to always say he combines Canon and Legends lore because he sees them as compatible. He doesn’t say that nowadays, but it seems like he’s still doing it. The thing is nowadays, the differences between Canon and Legends are bigger than previously. Of course that isn’t to say clones were probably squeaky clean in Canon. They started out as soldiers who followed orders without question and some clones stick with the Empire long after their brothers are phased out and the inhibitor chips have worn off. Still, I think there’s a clear difference between the personalities of Canon clones vs Legends clones. Check the TV Trooes character page on clone troopers. They point out these differences. Now yes, latest Canon media is further highlighting the corruption in the Republic and the motivations of non-corporate Separatists. But it’s honestly like Geetsly is intentionally ignoring the Canon narrative and acting like it’s still Legends. Heck, I wonder if he overplays the importance of the Separatist Senate and Separatist civilians. I seriously doubt they make up the morality core of the CIS. If anything, they just feel like a mask the CIS can use for propaganda as well as a source of money and resources. This is to an extent the same for the Republic of course. The Jedi Order, Clone Troopers, and several Senators are genuine in their intentions, but there were clearly greedy senators and military officers who used the Clone Wars to rise in power and be at the top of the Empire. Palpatine, Tarkin, and Krennic are clear examples.
@@АлексейМомот-щ7о He used to do that for his earlier videos about 4 or 5 years ago. And he also does videos covering Canon events, though I think he examines them through a Legends lens. For instance, he considers Republic weaponry being misused and being very Sith-like. I can’t fairly say whether Geetsly has changed over the years or not, so somebody else should determine that. If the question was about Generation Tech, I could be more confident. He’s honestly more optimistic about the good guys, which is saying something given how he used to say the Republic and Jedi Order deserved their fall. And he’s become more critical than ever of the Galactic Empire, saying it was basically designed to fail and is worse than democracy’s worst flaws, which he does also point out. Tech still references Legends every now and then, but he honestly seems like the opposite of Geetsly nowadays.
@@tristankawatsuma8962 I've kind of noticed that myself. I've been watching Geetsly videos for a long time now myself, and while I still like many of his videos and respect him greatly as one of my all-time favorite Star Wars RUclipsrs, but I too think he's been getting a lot more negative in recent years, especially in terms of his views on the Republic. I mean he is right, the Republic was very corrupted, but I do think he's exaggerating how bad things were, it was always going to become an Empire, there was a chance for things to turn out differently and better during the Clone Wars, but thanks Palpatine's manipulations and a few others like Tarkin, they ensured that only the worst possible outcome, aka the Empire forming, would occur. But nowadays Ggeetsly seems a lot more negative than he uses to be. I remember a video he made about 2 years ago maybe 3, where he talked about who were the good guys in the Clone Wars, at the end of the video he said that no side in the Clone Wars was good as they were all corrupt in one or another, which he was right there really was no true good side during the Clone Wars, but at the end of the video he also pointed how there were still good people on all sides fighting for good noble reasons even if the sides they choose were completely corrupt. Yet in this video, he seems to contradict that statement by saying at the end how no Clone Units were really good, even though I personally think there were good Clone units who were truly good and heroes like the 212th, the Wolf Pack, Torrent Company(the section of the 501st Rex led), and so on. Even the title of this video seems to be more negative and contradicting than it should be, as it's most evil to least evil, instead of evil to good, implying that there were no good Clones or Units even though there were and Geetsly himself as I said pointed out there were still good people on both sides even if the sides themselves were evil and corrupt. Whereas Generation Tech(I'm not as big a fan of his as Geetslys, but I've seen a fair few of his videos so I to think he's gotten more optimistic) is kind of becoming the new Geetsly with how much more optimistic and how he more often combines Canon and Legends. Heck, he even ends most of his videos nowadays by saying, "Well, thanks for watching. And remember, my allegiance is to the Republic to Democracy." So even he seems to be liking the Republic more nowadays, since despite what Geetsly has claimed before, the Republic and Empie are different from each other, even characters in-universe point that out: Echo: Galatic Empire? Where soldiers of the Republic. Rex: My loyalty was to the Republic, not you're Empire. The Republic was corrupted and flawed, but it was still better than the Empire because there was a decent amount of good Jjedi, Clones, and even Senators. But sadly by the end of the Clone Wars, all these good people were either dead, captured, decommissioned, or just on the run, leaving only the most evil and corrupt people with all the power and influence.
Sarcasm: A video discussing which clone unit had the greatest number of left-handed individuals is perhaps the most intelligent video this channel has ever produced.
I feel like anything done by the clones after Order 66 was enacted shouldn't necessarily count. It's like blaming people for what they did while being mind controlled. Plus the 501st under the name "Vader's Fist" were almost entirely human within 5 years of the Empire existing. Also, I get that the Republic was corrupt and that it later becomes the Empire but I don't agree that they were the villains during the Clone Wars. The C.I.S. had every right to succeed from the Republic, sure. But they were also being controlled by Sith who were enslaving planets, fire bombing civilian cities just to spite the Republic and using natives of outer world planets as test dummies for experimental weapons.
The 104th should've been the most moral on this list, but the Coruscant Guard should've been the least moral, you have a history of telling us how bad the Coruscant Guard is on this channel...you disappoint me Geetsly
I think that the Couracant guard and wolf pack are more recognizable than the 41st and 91st battalions, and I think if the Coracaunt Guard was on there, they’d be ranked with the galactic marines, and the wolf pack would be even higher than the 212th
I’m not sure where the sympathy for the separatists comes from. The seps were far more than a coalition of planets that wanted to leave the republic. They were a united military faction that represented the interests of super corporate governments who invaded worlds within the republic to pull them out of it and threaten its complete collapse. They were required to be this way by the sith plot in order to be sufficient enough a threat to provoke the emergency powers act. After all the Republic began the war on the back foot because the CIS went on the offensive immediately.
While I'm glad we got the top spot. Asking child slave soldiers who constantly saw their brothers die in a war for a government that didn't care about them to be "morally good" is a bit of an ask.
I have a feeling most of the 41st would've preferred having a clone like Bacara, Faie, Fox or Keller as their Commander instead of Gree. Heck, I'm sure they would've loved serving under Commander Appo if Gree had been killed earlier in the Clone Wars.
Geetsly, when are you gonna do a video on the Jedi and the Jedi Order’s perspectives during the Clone Wars? With all the atrocities done by the Republic and the like, were they blindsided by Palpatine to keep them from intervening or leaving? You’re still leaving out a major factor. Is there a reason?
Name an atrocity, not false surrender or torturing Poggle the Lesser. The CIS committed genocide and used biological weapons. The CIS was worse than the Republic, that seems to be it.
Speaking of the Republic, since the Republic existed for more than thousands of years, how many awful things the Republic did before the Clones Wars and becoming the Empire? Well, the facts that the Republic committed ethnocide against the Sith and then the Mandalorians clearly showed that the Republic never turned into the Empire by Paplatine's declaration of New Order or the passing the Military Creation Act, it was always THE Empire.
The Sith were a race themselves hell bend on oppressing the galaxy and irredeemably corrupted by the dark side, who themselves had committed several ethnocides. The Mandalorian ethnocide was during a period of fear in the immediate aftermath of the New Sith Wars. It is evil, but does not make an Empire, the two ethnocides took place thousands of years apart and during periods of great turmoil. The Jedi took no part in either ethnocide. Neither happened in Canon, only Legends.
Would’ve been funny if Krell got sent to the galactic marines instead cuz it would’ve been another day for em and they probably would’ve executed him after the first mission 😂
if im being honest i dont think either side in the clone wars was good, both sides committed atrocities but if i had to pick the lesser of two evils id say that would be the republic
TBF, the GAR’s Clones planted the seeds for the future Empire’s Stormtroopers after Palpatine passed the Military Creation Act in 24 BBY (in Canon its 23 BBY).
Any soldier following orders is not evil no matter the mission, their superiors might be. But no matter what side they're on soldiers are just doing their job most of the time
The Galactic Marines and CG should be the ones to wipe out the clone rebellion if it ever happens. The CG actually becomes good after Fox dies and they are competent both as lawmen and in open combat.
The 501st seems to have been very top-heavy in terms of morality. They were at their most independent and heroic when under the command of Anakin, Ahsoka, and Rex. But once senior command either defected or outright turned evil, then the 501st became those Imperial enforcers with a mean streak.
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During the clone wars under Rex the 501st are shown to be heroic, but after Rex defects during order 66 and under Vader and Appo, the 501st were definitely evil.
Yep. Don't forget that they stayed around, in both Legends and Canon.
I think elements from the 501st even joined the First Order in Disney's story.
all clone trooper units under the empire were evil, so saying the 501st is evil bc of its role after the clone wars isnt a valid point imo as the 212th was just as evil under the empire, and the recon corps, and etc etc
Like they had a choice…
Didn't Appo command 501st only for a few days before he died?
Torrent Company was decent, but the 501st as a whole was bad.
You forgot the Coruscant Guard. They were just as evil as the Galactic Marines, if not more evil. They didn’t just have a police state mentality, they were a police state.
And they thought they were superior to any other clone legion
The Coruscant Guard basically created the playbook for the future Stormtrooper Corps. They were true at-home occupiers, famous for such missions as (checks notes) forcing people out of their homes at gunpoint when the Galactic government seized control of their properties to build military staging areas while offering them no monetary compensation, and (checks notes again) ah yes, violently suppressing peaceful protests against the forced evictions, and who could forget (checks notes one more time) acting as hit squads tasked with silencing whistleblowers at the behest of the Chancellor. What heroes.
That’s what happens when you make men bred for war law enforcement, they treat the people as enemies
@@Definitely_Not_Sheev_Palpatine There were also absolute goats in the Coroscaunt Guard, like my boy Thorn.
@@T0pMan15 they kinda were tho
Chances were that by the end of the Clone Wars many units of clones were committing a lot of war crimes against the citizens of the Galaxy, and the sad truth was many of these clones probably became a lot more grim and monstrous as they saw so many of their brothers lost during the war.
Damn, sad that we didn’t see the 104th here. Can’t recall them committing many atrocities. Very close in comparison to the 212th.
Yeah I think the same. I mean Wolffe and his men hated mercy missions, but at the end they did their job and they did it well. I'd put them at the same ad the 212th on the Evil list
Wasn’t the 104th nearly destroyed when they came into contact with the Malevolence?
@@lone-wolfgamer2259 in the early stages of the clone wars yeah, that was back when their colors were a nice red.
They also ran humanitarian missions and did search and rescue
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Wait, didn’t the 212th round up civilians and cast them off of Utapau during Order 66 in the 3rd movie?
Nothing is more sinister than those scavenger droids in Jedi Survivor
Yessss. I love slaughtering them before they get to dig their way out.
I want to say Coruscant Guard but that’s mostly due to my hatred of Fox. They do all have great armor though, love the red ❤️
Fox?
@@eddieram435 CC-1010 also the guy who shot Fives to death.
@@thatman666 HE SHOT ME IN THE MIDDLE OF MY MENTAL BREAKDOWN!
@@CT--xj5jf skill issue
They also didn’t see much large scale action.. probably the most was that time they went to see the banking clan/ treasury … and when the home world was attacked directly.. other than that not much but security and policing..
If I had to do my list it would be
Most evil to least
-Galactic Marines
-Coruscant Guard
-91st Corps (Under Neyo's command)
-41st Elite Corps
-327th Star Corps
-501st legion (under Rex's command)
-212th Attack Battalion
-104th Wolfpack
Coruscant Guard: Hey, what about us?
Geetsly: Sorry, no professionals
Glad the 212th got the top spot, but… what about the Wolf Pack?
Thats what i was thinking
Ya, right eh? 🖖😁🤘🇨🇦
I'd say they are above the 212th
Probably similar category to the 212th. But of course, no Clone is good on this channel.
(Because Geetsly's is pro-Sepratist, and at this point, considering the Empire and the FIrst Order, who isn't?)
the 104th was very good too, their whole purpose was literally humanitary relief
That’s wasn’t their whole purpose, their main purpose was fighting. They just happened to be ordered to do it.
Yeah, I figured the Galactic Marines and 501st would be bottom. But the 41st was a surprise, I never knew they were they were Tarkan simps and bigots. The 212th was expected, being lead by one of the most wholesome Jedi and having guys like Waxer and Boil with them helps in that respect. They really are a wholesome unit, if fighting for the wrong side.
even if Boil was originally a specist, tho his views did seem to change.
No, the Republic is the right side, that it became the Empire doesn't change that. The Republic was in need of reform, yet remained benevolent. The separatists were openly controlled by the Sith, were even more beholden to corporations, and committed far worse war crimes than the Republic.
Most Clones: Let’s do good things
These guys: I’m gonna put some dirt in your eyes
How sad that the 91st lead by Neyo who’s among the worst of all commanders are so high yet the 501st led by perhaps the best clone of all time Captain Rex is so low.
Nice to see the Yellow Orange boys in 212th take the top spot.
Very sad, but I am happy for the 212th.
Mostly because in the Clone Wars the only 501st stuff was shown was Torrent company which had Rex, Jesse, Hardcase, Tup, Fives, Kix, Dogma and Appo. Torrent company were actually good men in the 501st
@@JuanGomez-bs6ue appo a good man? I dunno about that mate
@@JuanGomez-bs6ue Torrent company, on the same level of good morality as the 212th and 104st. :)
@@CT--xj5jf Maybe not fully good, more like Dogma, someone who just wants to be a good soldier, against their better judgment. Personally, of the four 501st Commanders, I view them like this Rex Good, Appo Low-Eevil at worst Neutral at best, Vill Evil. and Voca Evil.
Personally, I think the 501st should at least be above the 41st and maybe even tied with 327th, sure later they started doing more nefarious things, but that's true for a lot of people during the Clone Wars since as the war kept dragging on and people were getting tired of it so they started making moral compromises to end things quicker so they could finally get peace, so we should take that into consideration, and before that moment they did a lot of good, they too helped Ryloth and deal with the Zygerrians, I'm at least certain the quarter of the 501st under Rex's command(since the 501st had four commanders) were just as morally good as the 212th at least but the other 3/4's which were most likely the ones that did the more nefarious stuff like Mygetto because there's no way Rex would be okay with deceiving Jedi, brings them down on the list a bit, but not into the evil category for me their neutral or just slightly evil.
8:19-8:26: Well, I completely disagree with that. I for one think the 212th and probably the Wolf Pack were good Clone Units. There were many good people still fighting for the Republic, I would be one of them if I lived in the Star Wars universe, you can't blame them for whatever role they played in the rise of the Empire, especially if it was a small one like people who were just in tech support, or who just cleaned the bathrooms or something, you going to call them evil? Palpatine was a master manipulator he manipulated the good people on both sides into fighting and invitingly creating the Empire, but many of them were still good, did good during the war, and will always be heroes to me. I mean Palpatine was good at keeping people in the dark so they thought they were doing good, just look at the Death Star that was a massive project that required a lot of work, and many of the people who helped build it didn't know they were building a super weapon, many of them were independent contractors or companies that had been enlisted to help build one aspect of the weapon but were told it was for something different, like the anti-gravity stuff that kept it in orbit the people working on that were told it was going to be used to build floating cities for new land for people to live, or those that helped with the large power sources they were told that it would be used to give energy to those that need and help with good projects, are we really going to blame these people and call them evil. I mean there's a reason Palpatine and so many lied to them about what they were really building because they knew if people knew the truth they wouldn't willingly help, I mean just look at Galen Irso, when he found out what his research was really being used for he defected and left.
It's also worth noting that Gree's way of thinking was one of Thrawn's biggest influences, so much so that he has his helmet enshrined in his office. If you can control culture, you can control a war.
Im curious if the jedi reprimanded these clones.
My ranking would be
1. 21st nova corps and 501st Legion (under Appo and Vader)
2. Coruscant Guard
3. 91st Recon Corps (under Neto’s command)
4. 41st Elite Corps
(From now on this are the better units)
5. 327th Star Corps
6. 91st (under Ponds) 501st Legion (Clone wars Era and led by Rex and Anakin)
7. 7th Sky Corps
8. 104th Batallion
Shoutout to Juan Gomez for inspiring me to do this
Glad I could help Fives ;]
May you rest well brother
@@HellhumperE7ZJ thanks brother!
212th are badasses though. Especially Cody. And RIP to Waxer, one of the best Clones ever born. ❤️
Boil survived.
Even though we weren't given much info, nor were they given much screen time, based on what we do see I'd say Keeli's boys would have to be near the top too
I feel that the acts committed by clone legions are the best indication of their generals' morality. Thus Kenobi's 212th and Plo Koon's 104th were the most good. The best Jedi create the best soldiers.
oh absolutely. Since the clones had no parental figures on Kamino, they definitely take after their Jedi.
Ironic that the 501st and 212th had two Jedi generals that were so close to each other. Namely Anakin and Obi-Wan.
And both of them fit mentaly to their clones
the 501st are legendary
What about the 104th? They ran a relief mission to Aleen, and rescued an entire colony of Togruta people from the Zygerians Slavers? Admittedly they're not exactly good, seeing as a Clone Pilot and Commander Wolffe himself didn't seem sympathetic to those in need.
Even on a listing that’s generally aimed at bad clone troopers, Mundi just couldn’t help but pop his big ol head in. Man is peak galactic bantha fodder
off the top of my head who could be worse than the 501st? hey that rhymes
“Neyo laughing at his dead brothers, and little to no cares to give”
“Morality” is not fit in soldier’s vocabulary. Because I can’t understand how “morality” can fit to any soldier who have to follow order own officers that may give them very disgusting orders like “bombing citizens houses, schools, hospitals even enemy and their citizens still here.”
War is disgusting thing that each humans shall not be forgotten.
Orders to bomb known civilian houses, schools and hospitals are illegitimate orders that Western soldiers are trained to not follow.
21st Nova Corp is my favorite. Best armor, commander and performance. I'm actually glad to see them take the most sinister spot lol.
In Star Wars Legends, my take is probably the 501st Legion. Them lasting far longer "helps". Not sure about the Alt-universe yet.
In my Multiversal headcanon, probably some rogue magical girl combat clone task groups assigned for blacker-than-black ops and experimental testbed nuances, among surface-level roles.
Edit: Babylon 5 is still the better show. BSG 2003 is slowly but surely aging like milk, particularly in its second half.
I'm sorry huh
@@HellhumperE7ZJ Sorry about what?
Would love a part 2! In it, you could compare the shock troopers, 104th Wolfpack, Kaminoan Security maybe? And maybe some lesser known units.
The Wolfpack and Coruscant Guard aren't lesser known units. Geetsly kinda hates the Coruscant Guard lol
@@JuanGomez-bs6ue who doesn’t like the Coruscant Guard
@@davidvasquez08 same I kinda like them the coruscant guard and the wolf pack are my two favorite legions
@@Mark-cy1jg what I meant was not liking them, my bad
@@JuanGomez-bs6ue I didn’t mean they were lesser known units. I don’t really know a whole lot more units other than these three. I was referring to the other units like the yellow ones in Fallen Order.
Where would you rank the 104th battalion the wolfpack on this list ?
I’m surprised that the corasusant guards aren’t in tbis video I think that are the worst because of how bad do they treat nonhumans and
Jedi and you know them being palpatines private army.I think with the context the galactic marines where not all that bad, sure they did what they had to in order to secure their victory but so did many other units in the republic. Also I think Bacara being so cold was poorly from a military point of view a good think. Don’t get me wrong be under him would suck but in the overall grand scrum of things I don’t thing it was that bad as Bacara did eventually win.
I enjoy how he casually uses pictures of Stormtroopers while talking about clones
I also enjoy how he doesn't even try to separate canon and legends
Anyone else notice how many of these “Evil” clone videos are kinda just recycled with different images?
If you go back you can find one or two vids exactly like this with an almost identical list?
Pretty surprised that the Coruscant Guard wasn’t on here to be honest
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I tried to do my job well but I got shot by Fox
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Then in Legends you've got Alpha-17, who was totally amoral and supported assassination of planetary leaders in order to end conflict more quickly. Battle of Jabiim was a great comic series by Dark Horse.
You know, I’m basically fighting the urge by now to label Geetsly’s videos as clickbait, like how some people posted articles saying Sir Topham Hatt from Thomas & Friends was a cruel dictator to his engines, ignoring the obvious fact he’s keeping steam engines and diesels who don’t work as well in operation instead of scrapping them, especially since they keep getting into expensive crashes and accidents.
To be fair to Geetsly, his info is from Legends which is clearly the darker of the two Star Wars timelines. As a Canon fan, I should respect that. Except Geetsly used to always say he combines Canon and Legends lore because he sees them as compatible. He doesn’t say that nowadays, but it seems like he’s still doing it. The thing is nowadays, the differences between Canon and Legends are bigger than previously. Of course that isn’t to say clones were probably squeaky clean in Canon. They started out as soldiers who followed orders without question and some clones stick with the Empire long after their brothers are phased out and the inhibitor chips have worn off. Still, I think there’s a clear difference between the personalities of Canon clones vs Legends clones. Check the TV Trooes character page on clone troopers. They point out these differences.
Now yes, latest Canon media is further highlighting the corruption in the Republic and the motivations of non-corporate Separatists. But it’s honestly like Geetsly is intentionally ignoring the Canon narrative and acting like it’s still Legends. Heck, I wonder if he overplays the importance of the Separatist Senate and Separatist civilians. I seriously doubt they make up the morality core of the CIS. If anything, they just feel like a mask the CIS can use for propaganda as well as a source of money and resources. This is to an extent the same for the Republic of course. The Jedi Order, Clone Troopers, and several Senators are genuine in their intentions, but there were clearly greedy senators and military officers who used the Clone Wars to rise in power and be at the top of the Empire. Palpatine, Tarkin, and Krennic are clear examples.
I don't remember Geetsly saying that. I thought he always covered Legends, and TCW is included because it's T-canon.
@@АлексейМомот-щ7о He used to do that for his earlier videos about 4 or 5 years ago. And he also does videos covering Canon events, though I think he examines them through a Legends lens. For instance, he considers Republic weaponry being misused and being very Sith-like. I can’t fairly say whether Geetsly has changed over the years or not, so somebody else should determine that. If the question was about Generation Tech, I could be more confident. He’s honestly more optimistic about the good guys, which is saying something given how he used to say the Republic and Jedi Order deserved their fall. And he’s become more critical than ever of the Galactic Empire, saying it was basically designed to fail and is worse than democracy’s worst flaws, which he does also point out. Tech still references Legends every now and then, but he honestly seems like the opposite of Geetsly nowadays.
@@tristankawatsuma8962 I've kind of noticed that myself. I've been watching Geetsly videos for a long time now myself, and while I still like many of his videos and respect him greatly as one of my all-time favorite Star Wars RUclipsrs, but I too think he's been getting a lot more negative in recent years, especially in terms of his views on the Republic. I mean he is right, the Republic was very corrupted, but I do think he's exaggerating how bad things were, it was always going to become an Empire, there was a chance for things to turn out differently and better during the Clone Wars, but thanks Palpatine's manipulations and a few others like Tarkin, they ensured that only the worst possible outcome, aka the Empire forming, would occur.
But nowadays Ggeetsly seems a lot more negative than he uses to be. I remember a video he made about 2 years ago maybe 3, where he talked about who were the good guys in the Clone Wars, at the end of the video he said that no side in the Clone Wars was good as they were all corrupt in one or another, which he was right there really was no true good side during the Clone Wars, but at the end of the video he also pointed how there were still good people on all sides fighting for good noble reasons even if the sides they choose were completely corrupt. Yet in this video, he seems to contradict that statement by saying at the end how no Clone Units were really good, even though I personally think there were good Clone units who were truly good and heroes like the 212th, the Wolf Pack, Torrent Company(the section of the 501st Rex led), and so on. Even the title of this video seems to be more negative and contradicting than it should be, as it's most evil to least evil, instead of evil to good, implying that there were no good Clones or Units even though there were and Geetsly himself as I said pointed out there were still good people on both sides even if the sides themselves were evil and corrupt.
Whereas Generation Tech(I'm not as big a fan of his as Geetslys, but I've seen a fair few of his videos so I to think he's gotten more optimistic) is kind of becoming the new Geetsly with how much more optimistic and how he more often combines Canon and Legends. Heck, he even ends most of his videos nowadays by saying, "Well, thanks for watching. And remember, my allegiance is to the Republic to Democracy."
So even he seems to be liking the Republic more nowadays, since despite what Geetsly has claimed before, the Republic and Empie are different from each other, even characters in-universe point that out:
Echo: Galatic Empire? Where soldiers of the Republic.
Rex: My loyalty was to the Republic, not you're Empire.
The Republic was corrupted and flawed, but it was still better than the Empire because there was a decent amount of good Jjedi, Clones, and even Senators. But sadly by the end of the Clone Wars, all these good people were either dead, captured, decommissioned, or just on the run, leaving only the most evil and corrupt people with all the power and influence.
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Sarcasm: A video discussing which clone unit had the greatest number of left-handed individuals is perhaps the most intelligent video this channel has ever produced.
I feel like anything done by the clones after Order 66 was enacted shouldn't necessarily count. It's like blaming people for what they did while being mind controlled. Plus the 501st under the name "Vader's Fist" were almost entirely human within 5 years of the Empire existing.
Also, I get that the Republic was corrupt and that it later becomes the Empire but I don't agree that they were the villains during the Clone Wars. The C.I.S. had every right to succeed from the Republic, sure. But they were also being controlled by Sith who were enslaving planets, fire bombing civilian cities just to spite the Republic and using natives of outer world planets as test dummies for experimental weapons.
The 104th should've been the most moral on this list, but the Coruscant Guard should've been the least moral, you have a history of telling us how bad the Coruscant Guard is on this channel...you disappoint me Geetsly
I think that the Couracant guard and wolf pack are more recognizable than the 41st and 91st battalions, and I think if the Coracaunt Guard was on there, they’d be ranked with the galactic marines, and the wolf pack would be even higher than the 212th
I’m not sure where the sympathy for the separatists comes from. The seps were far more than a coalition of planets that wanted to leave the republic. They were a united military faction that represented the interests of super corporate governments who invaded worlds within the republic to pull them out of it and threaten its complete collapse. They were required to be this way by the sith plot in order to be sufficient enough a threat to provoke the emergency powers act. After all the Republic began the war on the back foot because the CIS went on the offensive immediately.
While I'm glad we got the top spot. Asking child slave soldiers who constantly saw their brothers die in a war for a government that didn't care about them to be "morally good" is a bit of an ask.
Man i miss the idea of the clones before disney. I think when order 66 was a legal order, not brain chips, it was actually much more sinister
I have a feeling most of the 41st would've preferred having a clone like Bacara, Faie, Fox or Keller as their Commander instead of Gree. Heck, I'm sure they would've loved serving under Commander Appo if Gree had been killed earlier in the Clone Wars.
Geetsly, when are you gonna do a video on the Jedi and the Jedi Order’s perspectives during the Clone Wars? With all the atrocities done by the Republic and the like, were they blindsided by Palpatine to keep them from intervening or leaving? You’re still leaving out a major factor. Is there a reason?
Name an atrocity, not false surrender or torturing Poggle the Lesser. The CIS committed genocide and used biological weapons. The CIS was worse than the Republic, that seems to be it.
@@questionmaker5666 Have you watched Geetsly’s videos like this one? In seemingly every one, he mentions a war crime committed by the Republic.
This is separatist propaganda
Speaking of the Republic, since the Republic existed for more than thousands of years, how many awful things the Republic did before the Clones Wars and becoming the Empire? Well, the facts that the Republic committed ethnocide against the Sith and then the Mandalorians clearly showed that the Republic never turned into the Empire by Paplatine's declaration of New Order or the passing the Military Creation Act, it was always THE Empire.
The Sith were a race themselves hell bend on oppressing the galaxy and irredeemably corrupted by the dark side, who themselves had committed several ethnocides. The Mandalorian ethnocide was during a period of fear in the immediate aftermath of the New Sith Wars. It is evil, but does not make an Empire, the two ethnocides took place thousands of years apart and during periods of great turmoil. The Jedi took no part in either ethnocide. Neither happened in Canon, only Legends.
For me the most evil was the Coruscant Guard. They followed Palpatin's orders no matter what.
Hello, good videos guys, just wanted to say!
Just double checking: what about the Wolf Pack & Ashoka’s unit on Mandalore?
Wolf Pack definitely is top tier good guys in the GAR and the 332nd was just a splinter of the 501st detached for the Siege of Mandalore
Courasaunt guard? 🤨
Would have loved to see commander wolfs unit and the coursant guard but I’m sure they would be the most morally corrupt.
Most people never see themselves as the bad guys or never want to admit it.
You missed the coolest clones, the Wolfpack
Rhetorical question: How after seeing this video did Bacara not rank among the most evil clone commander videos?
Bacara was cold and ruthless but he wasn't a sociopath or anything of that ilk.
@@MiguelRuiz-zq6vs Yeah figured, just couldnt help but ask the question rhetorically
I'm surprised the Coruscant Guard aren't here, as one of the least moral units.
Geetsly did grill the Coruscant Guard in many videos before, so he probably decided not to include them for that reason.
What about the 104th? Could possibly tie the 212th for 1st place.
When the only reason you helped the rise of the Empire is the inhibitor chips:
Sad *For the Republic!* Noises
And here I am with a massive army of 501st and 41st Lego clone troopers 🤣
I don't understand why would you consider humanocentrism a bad thing.
Would’ve been funny if Krell got sent to the galactic marines instead cuz it would’ve been another day for em and they probably would’ve executed him after the first mission 😂
41st its just the CIA of the Republic.
Wouldn’t surprise me if George based the 41st on or off the CIA.
Funny how the least messed up the clone units is the same that fought under the "negotiator" AKA Mr.fake surrender.
Thumbnail suggests 501st are evil and 212nd are good.
Didn’t the 212th enslave the populace of Utapau right after attempting to kill obi-wan?
Rebel Soldier: The 501st is EVIL!
Death Trooper: Hold my Beer.
The 7th Corps should have been higher due to the atrocities committed by 212th Battalion Paratroopers on Utapau
Good video
I appreciate the depth of research that goes into these videos.
POV hah green boys suck
Me : sees a 501st running towards me Oh sh$t 😵
Well considering everyone one of em pulled the trigger during order 66... I'd have to say all of em
if im being honest i dont think either side in the clone wars was good, both sides committed atrocities but if i had to pick the lesser of two evils id say that would be the republic
501st takes the cake, they are the Waffen SS of star wars
the 501st was the only unit that remained loyal to it’s jedi general
The marines are just marines. Nothing has changed lol.
Love how you talked bad about the 41st but your rp server is geetslys 41st lol
idc if the 41st are sinister their armor is so cool I don't care about nothing else.
212th "we will do what we can to protect the native population"
Galactic marines "BRING IN THOSE FLAMETHROWERS"
The natives were shooting at the Galactic marines with sonic weapons and carrying them away.
I find your lack of "coruscant guard" disturbing.
i can't believe geetslys is slandering the glorious republic and empire, absolutely horrible
TBF, the GAR’s Clones planted the seeds for the future Empire’s Stormtroopers after Palpatine passed the Military Creation Act in 24 BBY (in Canon its 23 BBY).
The republic marines look like a proto version of the snow trooper that were on hoth
wrong comander neyo is just as bad as the first two comanders
7:40 well obviously they'll be least evil their general is the negotiator
Any soldier following orders is not evil no matter the mission, their superiors might be. But no matter what side they're on soldiers are just doing their job most of the time
Didnt the paras of the 212th commit war crimes on utapau ?
The Galactic Marines and CG should be the ones to wipe out the clone rebellion if it ever happens. The CG actually becomes good after Fox dies and they are competent both as lawmen and in open combat.
after fox dies they are the guards of the imperial capitol. i doubt it
There is no right to rebel if you do it you can be crushed
not so simple friend. clones are controlled to be bad tbh
Easily the Clone Assassin's of Legends.
The 501st seems to have been very top-heavy in terms of morality. They were at their most independent and heroic when under the command of Anakin, Ahsoka, and Rex. But once senior command either defected or outright turned evil, then the 501st became those Imperial enforcers with a mean streak.
I want someone to do this, but with America.
How many clone units were there altogether?
This sounds like separatist propaganda
He really said that the 91st is a good one. Lmaoo
ranking them after order 66 isn’t fair
And what is the lesson from all this...War is evil! Love Rex and Cody though, and Bad Batch...🤘😁🖖🇨🇦
I thought the 104th would be the least evil