The Difference Between A Scratch Golfer & A PGA Tour Player
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This might be one of the best videos you’ve ever done. Super super cool I feel like a golf nerd but what an insightful video. Ryan is a stand up guy with a lot of game.
Maybe an affirmation for you Micah but this shows what we clearly knew having watched you play for years:
1-need to get more dialed in wedges (may be club up, let go of fogle)
2-great mid to long iron player.
3-need to get consistent with drivers. You should think about getting in fairways more often than Hitting it long. With your speed, you will get over 300 with easier swing. Those huge left or right occasional curves are also hurting you off the tee.
Well said! I think we all know where is game suffers, but this video shows it more than anything!
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I would imagine Micah’s game is pretty similar to other scratch golfers, good with mid to long irons but weak inside 125y. Probably the result of where he practices. The scoring difference with short game is where the Pro eats the Ams lunch.
MICAH realizing the keys to golf in real time, but not quite understanding them is priceless content
He simply doesn’t get It. If you look at contact every other shot he hits It fat. The pro never does. And he’s even more dishonest with himself when It comes to short game. 😂
I think it was Lee Trevino who once said, that as a scratch golfer, you're closer to being a 15 handicapper than you are a tour pro.
Who is Lee Trevino? We want to hear more from this Micah character.
@@matthewdubay1180LOL 😅
@@matthewdubay1180lmao!!!!!
I think unlimited access to an accurate lauch monitor is a definite advantage, especially for distance control.
Agreed. Accurate carry distance is an absolute must. Dispersion is a little tough for me on a LM. Especially indoors. Just hard to trust my alignment.
Biggest takeaway from this video is to hit greens. Forget shooting at pins. I started doing the same two seasons ago. Used to play for throwing darts and trying to make birdies. Changed things up and instead went for greens and pars. Ended up playing my best two seasons in a long time. Even shot a 63 a couple weeks ago.
alot of courses are adding launch monitors to their ranges and i feel that will really help us average joes
you took mulligans and 8ft gimmes you did not shoot 63 liar
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Consistent Yardage doesn’t happen until consistent contact.
Launch monitor + nice practice facility + time :)
You can hear the difference in ball striking. 1 or 2 of Micah's per round sounded really good. Everyone of Ryan's shots sounded so flush. These guys are just on another level. Great content
Love this concept
Shows how good the pro golfers truly are at consistent ball striking. Really quality video
Wow! This video was incredible. This better than any video I’ve ever seen really shows the difference between a very good golfer and a pro. Amazing content dude!
John Daly said this years ago "150 and in" is what separates the pros from the rest. Seeing it here.
Great content, as always! Ryan comes across as such a great personality; warm, relaxed, generous, and of course very professional and dedicated to the game as well.
One of my favorite videos that you have done so far. Very informative. I am a golf nerd. These kind of things are really cool.
This is wicked informative. I would love to see this with the short game and putting if that's possible. It's a straight up light bulb moment of seeing exactly how you stack up against the best in the world. Taking the test with a PGA Tour player taking it at the exact same time is just priceless.
@lpeabody Northeast. Technically, Mid Atlantic. Pennsylvania. This is what happens in the military. You pick up verbiage and slang from different areas of the globe.
Possibly the most creative idea and informative golf videos on RUclips.
Love the content you are putting out Micah!
Love this...a putting, pitching, chipping video like this would be dope, and where you will see your biggest differences...
The fact that Ryan improved after dialling in those first few shots is incredible. That’s what a pure competitive pro can do. There’s a difference between a good golfer and one that can win.
Biggest thing that I learned here is that you’re a Hoyt fan!! Hell yes!! Love my Hoyt
This a really good video! It shows a really nice comparison between PGA level versus Scratch. It also gives you a good idea of where Micah needs to improve! Nice job!
This is one of the finest comparison vids i've seen on youtube, and Micah you're a fantastic golfer! Count me as a new subscriber with content like this!
Having said that, i think it's obvious how you're a scratch golfer -- those booming drives, even if they're offline, put you in spots that short-hitters can only daydream about. That's not a knock on the rest of your game because that's fantastic too - it's just that those 75-175 yard shots that the pro hit so well just take so much practice to dial in, and so much practice just to STAY dialed in, that i think very good amateurs probably don't realize how much work it takes. Or the toll on the body either. Those guys are pros, and they've certainly earned their status. I don't think 99% of amateurs would be playing if they had to work that hard at it :)
I love the way Micah talks about consistency as if that’s the only difference and it’s a small difference. Consistency is the only difference between any player of any level. The only difference between a 12 handicap and a scratch golfer is consistency.
Wow.. really showed me I need to work on my wedge game. Never knew you could get this consistent with it
That was one of the best golf videos I have watched in a very long time. Loved the comparisons to a Pro and where the issues are for a scratch golfer. Maybe add a 10 handicap golfer to the same matrix to see where actual humans would fall in this!
Agree one of the best videos I’ve seen I’ve been off scratch at still want to get better. Every Shot Counts by Mark Broadie is a great golf instructional by book alongside Dave Pelz short game bible .
Micah I definitely want to see more of this content as I a stats need too! Great job!
Loved this…yes, I think this should be a monthly video or even weekly as it was enjoyable and entertaining
All of your posts are great, but this has been the best. Ryan has crazy skills. Amazing.
Enjoying this one Micah, God Bless you and Katie....🏌️🙏
This is by far the best video I've seen that clearly illustrates the difference between pros and good players. Well done!
Really cool exchanges today-felt like a solid golfer’s clinic!❤️⛳️
Very cool insight. Just goes to show how CRAZY good all the tour players are.
This video highlights Trackman's competitive advantage - they have god-tier software, married to outstanding hardware. And they have years of data to bring it all together. Kinda hard to compete with. Great vid.
yeah dude this type of video is really good. more please.
Micah has become a lot more positive. Got to love the attitude. Maybe consider switching into the p770s to help with miss hits. Thanks for the content.
I didn't think I'd like this content but I really got into it half way through
If you are constantly coming up short, you likely don’t know your yardages. So a trackman , foresight, any of those launch monitors will be good to help you with that. Good luck!
I think if he switched to the p770’s like grant did would be beneficial…. On his slightly off centered mishits he’s coming 15 yards shorts.. go with something more forgiving
Thanks for this video. That was so educational for me as a golf coach. These comparison tests are great for me and my students. Great job. And as the motto says These guys are good😂
Very interesting and informative video, it really points out the weak and strong aspects of one's game. This was a great idea for a video.
Matt Fryer just posted another interesting video: playing the same par 5 eighteen times. An interesting watch if you have the time since it demonstrates the importance of consistency and course management. His scores varied between 4 and 8 for those reasons, and he is a pro golfer (not a tour pro).
You're approaching your goal by gaining knowledge of what it takes, good choice.
Fantastic video! Love seeing the reality of what scratch is and what a pro is! Man that dude is consistent!!! Bang in every time and if he was off he made it back! Love the setup!
Excellent video. Don’t believe I’ve seen any content like this prior anywhere
Prime example why short game is everything! Great video!!
Really enjoy this kind of video. Work on your wedge and putting and boom. You're there.
Best way to practice like the pros 🟧 Really cool content by you and Ryan🔥⛳
In HS, our best tennis player in practice was an absolute stud, wiped the floor with everyone else on our team. However, he never made it to #1 singles in actual competition because mentally he couldn’t handle that heat. That’s the big thing with the best of the best athletes: they thrive in stress. This is where Micah needs the most help.
When I was a 8 to 10 handicap I used a more for giving Iron set like-ping irons . When I got to be a 2 to 3 handicap I had to switch to more consistent golf club to control my yardage so when I hit the center of the club, the ball wouldn’t go 15 yards further I needed one that went 2 yards further from hitting around the center of the face so I went to Titleist blades. until I hurt my shoulder and I’m no longer scratch golfer. I’m still an eight but not a very good 8.
I have MP620 blades it costs me yardage hit 7 iron 150-160 but the feel and consistency make up for it. Handicap scratch I found this video really good. I gave up playing scratch county events as was shooting mid to high 70s at best. On my home course I can maintain scratch handicap but I’m under no illusion I wouldn’t be able to break 85 on a pga tour course maybe even 90
“You’re only as good as your bad shots” rings home a lot here, Micah incredible but the occasional miss lets him down a little when comparing to the tour player, certainly got the ability to get to tour level
Great eye opening comparison! I could watch this type of content all day and only wish I had the Trackman to practice these type of shots with the feedback daily.
Really cool video, would love to see one of your Pga event in Canada
great content really dials in the mindset "raise the florr"
Really love this 😊😊😊😊
This is super interesting ...good stuff Micah.
This is great content and relates to all golfers. Well done Tig. Totally unique.
Great video. It is crazy how accurate PGA tour players are. Knowing your yardage is very important.
Interesting content! Get to working on them wedges 👊🏼
This was both educational and entertaining. Thanks for the content Micah , you're a good guy .
That guy you just played with his recent pga tour win showed a lot. You play exceptional but they are exceptiona at repeating results. I actually play with a pga tour card carrier every now and again. Great guy, super laxed butbwhen you hear the worst putter on tour is better than any putter you have ever played with... itnis sooo true. 15 ft, 20 ft, whatever... he just makes them all. Keep up the great work though. Best
Patiently waiting on a Bubbie vs Tig match
In an actual match or Tracman? An actual match Tig would smoke him... Period not even a chance for Boobie.. As for raw distant, it would be close... But Tig probably wins..
@@sfodge7Bubbie would keep it competitive he’s gotten a lot better over the years
Bubbie has improved. But not on the same planet distance or scoring.
@@AnnieMB10 have you seen the matches with him and Steve versus Brad?? Dude thinks his slanging draw is the best shot ever.. He has zero game compared to Tig... Yes Boobie is good, no doubt, but all he has is distance... Even he admits that.. You see him playing these wide open courses, so of course the illusion is he's good bc there isn't any trouble
@@sfodge7sooooo not even a chance for bubbie but then you say tig probably wins? Thanks for saying nothing.
Great content. Eliminate the big miss with driver and tighten up the short game and your there.
If you're a range grinder, the best thing you can do is find an indoor Trackman facility for one of your sessions weekly. Take video to pair with the data. Using Trackman makes your practice time 100x more effective
This was fascinating. Great video. Won’t improve my game! But I know why I’m a 13 hc. But I’m 62 now. It’s all down hill 😫😩
Maybe people willl finally stop claiming Micah only needs to work on his, "mental game." This literally shows that the thing to work on is, "hit the ball close to where you are aiming game."
The mental aspect covers a wide range, it is also very relevant in this little test. See how Ryan is able to push himself and get in the positive numbers on the final strokes more than once
Tig! That track man is a great training aid to get to the next level! I see the Hoyt hat, do you bow hunt? I’m a low single digit golfer who caddies for a living and play at a high level and I still compete amateur a lot, and I really enjoy watching your channel a lot! Keep living the dream and I’ll keep watching and supporting! When I’m not shooting my bow or hunting! Thanks!
Yes, do a test of putting between 5 and 15 feet. A tour player will hit nearly every putt either in the hole or when one misses it will lip out or burn the edge with perfect speed. A scratch player will hit a few that will miss right from the outset of the roll having no chance.
The whole game of golf was explained in the first minute. The more time you put in, the more consistent you will be, the better and closer to pro you will be.
Great information in this video. And man, pro golfers are just different. Also, love seeing that Hoyt hat. We need more archers. I'm a lousy golfer, but I've long held the belief that people that are really good at golf can be excellent archers.
I actually enjoyed this alot, more of this Micah!
Thanks.. that was very interesting and seemed a very true reflection of 'the difference'
Micah thinks he hits every club way farther than he actually does that is why he is constantly short
Love the video, different but very interesting to watch. Love it
One of the best videos yet! More of this!
this was really awesome to watch. now, if you guys can do a short game and putting version!
That was such an insightful and interesting video. Thank you. I was wondering the difference of scratch vs pga in the short game. I bet that's where the big difference will be.
"it thinks you're a 4 hcp, that's pretty funny" hahaha
Great video Tig, loved this.
That was very cool! Thank you for sharing. Very eye opening. Love it!
Great content!! Take it to the short game area cause I feel that is the true differentiator.
Most scratch or really good players can look impressive off the tee but the biggest difference gets amplified the closer you get to the hole.
Inside 150 yards pros are just wicked good and scrambling around the greens, not to mention they literally don’t miss inside 6’ (i know they do but they rarely miss) where as scratch golfers aren’t as consistent generally speaking.
I have started to go into this phase myself for my golf game where my main focus is to improve inside 150 yards and work like a mad man on my putting.
One thing that has made my putting go from average to actually starting to become a real threat on the greens is using a metronome. I set mine at 72-73 beats per minute and do a (I think its called 3/4? Beat)
example being *beat takeaway *beat end of backstroke *beat right at the end of follow thru
This will probably feel insanely slow to most people starting out but just practice this inside on the carpet or wherever no worrying about speed or direction just match up the tempo into a smooth stroke. Another great “feel” is to take the putter back and then pause and hold, count to 3 then release and roll the putt without “hitting” it. This will train you to have a smooth tempo without forcing a “hit” on the ball. It will make your speed control insane after a few attempts.
Micah I hope you see this and hope you try out the metronome and pause technique. Don’t make putting complicated but please spend at least 1 hour each day working on putting inside of 10 feet. If you look at make percentages it shows that inside of 10 feet is what we need to work on the most and then a little bit of time on lag putts. But get deadly inside of 10 feet. Get smooth tempo and work with doing some around the clock 6 footer drills for something more fun. Don’t add a bunch of unnecessary training aids, tempo and if I had to pick one I would check out the “straight putt no matter what” as it isn’t very intrusive of a training but helps with Green reading and line choice.
Good luck, hope someone gets better from reading this ❤
What you said is accurate but I have to laugh because there's always that person and I happen to know that person. Haha. He is so incredibly inconsistent off of the tee. He can crush it but seems to miss fairways incredibly frequently. He is a scratch or better golfer. He rarely shoots above par. He makes everything after the tee box look like a joke. If he is within 200 yards you can count on his next shot almost being a guaranteed putt. He is constantly in a state of anger. He can slow his driver down and improve his accuracy but distance suffers greatly. He has been working on it with coaches for years and can never seem to get his driver where he wants it. It's a true anomaly. He was a successful D1 golfer. It was incredibly sad to watch him not reach his goals because of non-iron clubs.
I’ve been off 1 for 25 years got down to plus 1 gone up to 2. I only hit it 250 . 1 tip I got off a pro was after every round count all your shots from 100 yards or less . You should aim for 36. In 7 years I’ve done 36 or better about 6 times . Normally average low 40s. When I do get 36 I break 70. There are no short cuts practicing 6 hours a week gives me a chance. It’s difficult with family commitments. I need to just practice with what I’ve got instead of getting lessons to improve my swing. Excellent video by the way
Awesome video, I’d love to see one in the short game department like you mentioned 👍🏼
Awesome vid man. Make more of these
Difference between Scratch to PGA tour winner 12 shots. I’m off scratch and if I was on my game and playing my home course where i have local knowledge and know all the lines on the greens would still want 6 shots a side shots against a pga tour pro top 100 ranked golfer in the world. Even then I wouldn’t want to play for more than $10.
Sweet vid! Would be amazing to have one of the trackmans. Makes practicing look pretty fun
Very interesting data for sure...I think the main thing is practice
awesome video!! G-wagon in the garage
Quality idea and very interesting stats.
Love to see this content on a short game.
Trackman should compensate you for this vid, it’s a fantastic accidental ad lmao.
This will probably get lost in comments but have you ever considered the set up Bryson uses? Same length on all clubs may give you a better feel with the short ones, idk, tempo looks great
Thanks for the video mate! Cool stuff. With the sponsor thing - the factor meals - I'm just wondering about whether it would be safer (more washing up though!) to transfer out of the container and into a ceramic bowl before heating? Just thinking about transfer of plastics into your meal mate. Worth a google and see what you reckon
So I’ve been watching you a while now tig and one of the things that I’ve noticed is that you just don’t have like a go to controlled shot, like especially with you wedges. Idk how much golf you’ve played with kwon of late but like learning how to hit multiple clubs in those overlapping distances would help. And this is strictly from my vantage point. I’ve seen videos of you being really on and then I’ve seen videos where you’ve struggled and I think it’s because everything almost looks like a full swing. I think maybe practicing like the clock system or just learning how to really feel hitting you five the same distance as your 7 with a different shot shape will help you all the way thru the bag. That’s just my thought. Best of much tho. Good vid.
One thing this challenge shows is that PGA Tour players have ideal yardages. In a tournament, they will play to have those yardages whenever possible as opposed to simply hitting a well-struck ball in the right direction. Amateur golfers do this far less frequently, for example only when forced to lay up.
“Yeah you should, not gonna sugarcoat it” 😂😂😂
Tig - this is one of the best most informational golf vids. Great freakin job man. We all needed this reality check. More like this please!
Ryan's distance control is off the charts.
Outstanding video, great work.
19:09 common for ams to come up short. Rarely are ams grabbing enough club. They think about the few shots they pure instead of their average carry numbers. Plenty of tour pros are hitting an 8 iron from 160
This was an excellent clinic. Thx!
that was cool, i was hoping yallzz would do a chipping, bunker, long putts and short putts challenge;
That was pretty cool to see.
WE NEED MORE OF THESE!!!!
(1) consistency (2) practice (3) actual golf course play at least daily . The ability to course manage, but also to focus a course just down to points (distances) and repeat that distance regardless of the course they are on.
Practice practice practice.