Man, they really made it a Payne to access that blower motor. Mighty Ruud of them! Curtis is a Goodman for doing this! I hope the owner didn't Rheem him out for the callback!
@murfdog19 in the good Ole days it was so much easier and alot more less expensive. They come out with all this new fangled stuff and it breaks down more than the old stuff ever did. Just keep it simple.
Sometimes you fix an immediate problem, and shortly after the next problem rears its ugly head. That was a challenging job. Milwaukee makes a right angled adapter that helps you reach those hard to get at fasteners. Sometimes extensions and flex adapters pay for themselves in one job. Well done !
Curtis, when I saw what you were working on, I said he is going to LOVE this . That's when the offset and extension come in handy. That back lip is a pain alone with those screws. Pliers will remove that socket.
I saw you wrestling with alignment of those holes for the blower motor. I have a small ice pick i use align those holes together, especially those furnace doors when the frame twist.
As a newer tech with only a couple years of exp, it makes me feel better seeing a veteran like Curtis get callbacks. 🤣I try to minimize them but I guess callbacks are part of the job for all of us... so long as it's not for something silly like leaving the disconnect off.
Just a tid bit of advice from someone that has ran into aligning bolt or screw holes struggles in the past. Take a piece of 2x4 and angle cut it into wedge. That'll help raise whatever that needs to be anchored down align with bolt or screw holes. Also, I'd invest in either a wobble socket set or a wobble adapter when dealing with oddball angles of securing fasteners. Just a friendly advice from someone who's semi technologically and mechanically inclined. Hope this advice helps making your jobs a bit easier as it has with me on many occasions.
That thing was some dirty. I've seen you clean some out of 20 year old package units that weren't as bad. Heater fixed, yay, I don't even want to see the evaporator. Nice job and I hope your team wins.
Did you sell them a 9 volt battery-or just edit it out. Almost every time you just change a cap on furnace blower the motor dies relatively quickly. Probably from the stress of the bad cap
After decades of being a transplant to Tennessee from Detroit, I can appreciate how you correctly called them, "Bolled" peanuts, unlike my yankee counterparts, who weirdly say it, "Boyeld". By the way, bolled peanuts are an acquired taste that I have come to love over the years; a perfect snack to have after a day of grovelling around in a cold attic!
Just cleaned a ventless heater and this house was infested with roaches, so it was dirty and nasty 🤮. Would rather it be just dirty, afterwards I’m checking myself for bugs.
Getting the socket off the drive , those are some of the little things that pop up in the field that a lot of people don't see. I feel your pain , you just want to get done and out of there . Been there done that .
Was wondering when you took that bottom blower cage screw out how you'd get it back in. I agree with your solution!! LoL. And I always carry at least two pairs of those exact gloves for that same reason. Not good working with wet gloves. Good job Curtis. Enjoy the rest of your weekend!
I have a question about the blower motor going bad right after the capacitor was changed. I would check the maximum amperage rating of the motor on the chart inside the cover, then check the actual amperage draw with my multimeter. I would think that would give a very good diagnosis on how to proceed, especially when it sounded weak upon startup the day b4. Any hvac techs can comment on my post. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
I’ll have to go back and watch the other video to see why they weren’t both changed at the same time but, I tend to be in agreement with you, sir. I also believe I would’ve changed them both yesterday and been done.
All that dirt around the motor can act as a grinder and mess up thing badly! Just hope they replace the filters every month or when needed! I'm sure they're renters!
@@bobboscarato1313 I would say you’re correct again sir, renters all the way you know some of these houses that Curtis goes into shock the hell out of me. I can’t believe how people live. It’s like they would shit where they sleep. If you know what I mean? I just don’t understand folks these days
@@ELITECLIMATESOLUTIONSsometimes it’s a sickness bad health problems that causes a lot of people to live like this. Even depression will cause it. You never know what someone is going through.
Hey Curtis, could you ever do a video going through your tool bag? Really insightful on what I should have in mine. I’m a trade student almost out of school
Doesn't your trade school teach you that? I think they should! You need to be well prepared when you go to a customer's home to service, maintain or repair a unit!
Did you know that some of the new code in many jurisdictions are completely removing the requirement for the drip leg. That is how it is around here already.
Great video, Curtis! I'm shocked the control board survived all that trauma! Just one question, since you put in a brand new 7.5 cap yesterday and had to switch to a 10 today, how do charge that to the customer?
It may look simple to you Curtis but I wouldn’t know where to start. It did sound like a model T ford on a bad day you must have had your ear plugs in.😂
If they worked at it they could probably design it to be harder to work on. Does the circuit board actually have some type of mount? Or does it just sit on there?
No one ever puts an ammeter on motors or compressors after changing caps, always thought that was strange, that was always standard practice for my dad 40yrs ago.
Enjoy your videos it seems like the fans seem to fail at a high rate. Is there any preventative maintenance that can be done to prevent this or is it just what it is?
Customers don't replace their air filters allow for conditions seen in this video. I'll say if they do that chances are fan motors will last longer; also the squirrel cage or propeller was caked with dirt which I'm sure at high speed will load up motor. Even a 1/2 HP motor!
@@HVACGUY I’ve watched a lot of your videos. I really enjoy them. I like to find the root cause on why a lot of these components, seem to fail a lot and it looks like preventative maintenance Seems to be the culprit. I’m getting towards the end of my military career and I’ve been contemplating going back to school for HVAC or something like that.
Problem is some equipment is badly designed and you need to spend extra time to complete repairs; end result is costly repairs! Real bad if system is still in warranty!
20 years of experience tell me that whenever a cap goes bad on an indoor blower motor the root cause normally is a defective motor. It usually will come back to bite you if you don’t replace that motor
I would have had the same callback cause I won’t change parts when they show no signs of being bad….but however when I do change a capacitor I will first explain to the customer that the blower or fan motor could not last very much longer and give them the option to go ahead and charge it or wait…75% of the time they prefer to wait…good job not putting profit ahead of the customer
What a structural POS. The design engineer should have to come out with you and have to work on it. My compliments to you Curtis for a job well done with what you had to work with.
Koodos to you Curtis for not swapping out what otherwise might have been a good motor based on your experience. Many unscrupulous techs would have unnecessarily done it just to get more money from the customer. As it turned out however, the motor was bad, but at least now you know it for sure.
I knew he would be back after swapping that cap, I have seen it a hell of a lot of times that the motor took out the cap, once the new cap is in, the motor bites is shortly after. If I see them like that, I try and do them both at the same time. I have a feeling that isn't the last time he is going to see that system.
Wasn't 1 of your quality jobs, Blower motor mount no rubber washers, left screw out of bottom & motor was sure noisy after that, sure it was cold but the factory put those screws & mounts their for a reason. sure you could've got board mounted somehow.
I completely agree with this statement. I have two degrees and own two businesses, one being HVAC/R. In HVAC, you can make a great living and learn a lot. College debt is not worth it, but I paid as I went, and it was a long time ago. However, don't work in the South, where there is high humidity and don't work low-income areas. Business in the Denver Metro area and suburbs is great and has great income opportunities. But I hate working on family's systems in Oklahoma and Texas. But the systems in Washington State and Idaho are great also. Same applies to plumbing and electrical. Great trades with the right companies and training. College isn't for everyone and all it does is leave millions of people in huge debt and most don't even use their degrees. But I would never work in Georgia or say Houston, hell no!
Man, they really made it a Payne to access that blower motor. Mighty Ruud of them! Curtis is a Goodman for doing this! I hope the owner didn't Rheem him out for the callback!
@murfdog19 in the good Ole days it was so much easier and alot more less expensive. They come out with all this new fangled stuff and it breaks down more than the old stuff ever did. Just keep it simple.
You’ve been waiting for the opportunity to post that haha
@HVACGUY yes I have thank you Curtis 😊
@@scottmaz4063:They used to say: KISS or "keep it simple stupid" ! LOL
😂😂😂
Sometimes you fix an immediate problem, and shortly after the next problem rears its ugly head. That was a challenging job. Milwaukee makes a right angled adapter that helps you reach those hard to get at fasteners. Sometimes extensions and flex adapters pay for themselves in one job. Well done !
Curtis, when I saw what you were working on, I said he is going to LOVE this . That's when the offset and extension come in handy. That back lip is a pain alone with those screws. Pliers will remove that socket.
I saw you wrestling with alignment of those holes for the blower motor.
I have a small ice pick i use align those holes together, especially those furnace doors when the frame twist.
As a newer tech with only a couple years of exp, it makes me feel better seeing a veteran like Curtis get callbacks. 🤣I try to minimize them but I guess callbacks are part of the job for all of us... so long as it's not for something silly like leaving the disconnect off.
Most callbacks are never repeated..
I have made it my practice if the cap failed and the motor has been trying to start if I changed the cap and it still wines change the motor
Just a tid bit of advice from someone that has ran into aligning bolt or screw holes struggles in the past. Take a piece of 2x4 and angle cut it into wedge. That'll help raise whatever that needs to be anchored down align with bolt or screw holes. Also, I'd invest in either a wobble socket set or a wobble adapter when dealing with oddball angles of securing fasteners. Just a friendly advice from someone who's semi technologically and mechanically inclined. Hope this advice helps making your jobs a bit easier as it has with me on many occasions.
Why didn't you secure the circuit board.
Great job Curtis 👍👍
Thanks!
That thing was some dirty. I've seen you clean some out of 20 year old package units that weren't as bad. Heater fixed, yay, I don't even want to see the evaporator. Nice job and I hope your team wins.
Nice job Curtis.
That mobo mounting was genius mounting. 😮 Amazing they are still in business.
That blower was a real pain I was frustrated for you thanks for the video
Did you sell them a 9 volt battery-or just edit it out. Almost every time you just change a cap on furnace blower the motor dies relatively quickly. Probably from the stress of the bad cap
After decades of being a transplant to Tennessee from Detroit, I can appreciate how you correctly called them, "Bolled" peanuts, unlike my yankee counterparts, who weirdly say it, "Boyeld". By the way, bolled peanuts are an acquired taste that I have come to love over the years; a perfect snack to have after a day of grovelling around in a cold attic!
Loved some bolled peanuts
A difficult job done well Curtis, in that confine space, it will run well from now 👍Au
Good job Curtis! I don’t know what is worse, years of filter neglect or a roach infestation. Go Dawgs!!
Either condition is extremely bad. LOL
Just cleaned a ventless heater and this house was infested with roaches, so it was dirty and nasty 🤮. Would rather it be just dirty, afterwards I’m checking myself for bugs.
Getting the socket off the drive , those are some of the little things that pop up in the field that a lot of people don't see. I feel your pain , you just want to get done and out of there . Been there done that .
The humming strangely enough reminded me of the beginning of CCR, Born on the Bayou. 😊
Was wondering when you took that bottom blower cage screw out how you'd get it back in. I agree with your solution!! LoL. And I always carry at least two pairs of those exact gloves for that same reason. Not good working with wet gloves. Good job Curtis. Enjoy the rest of your weekend!
Those folks are going to feel air blowing they haven't felt in a long time. Good job.
Thanks
Could you use grommets from old motor…?
I have a question about the blower motor going bad right after the capacitor was changed. I would check the maximum amperage rating of the motor on the chart inside the cover, then check the actual amperage draw with my multimeter. I would think that would give a very good diagnosis on how to proceed, especially when it sounded weak upon startup the day b4. Any hvac techs can comment on my post. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
I’ll have to go back and watch the other video to see why they weren’t both changed at the same time but, I tend to be in agreement with you, sir. I also believe I would’ve changed them both yesterday and been done.
All that dirt around the motor can act as a grinder and mess up thing badly! Just hope they replace the filters every month or when needed! I'm sure they're renters!
@@bobboscarato1313 I would say you’re correct again sir, renters all the way you know some of these houses that Curtis goes into shock the hell out of me. I can’t believe how people live. It’s like they would shit where they sleep. If you know what I mean? I just don’t understand folks these days
@@ELITECLIMATESOLUTIONSsometimes it’s a sickness bad health problems that causes a lot of people to live like this. Even depression will cause it. You never know what someone is going through.
Great job , thro that flip in the lake get a new one .
Do they even have a filter?
GO Dogs. 🐶 Congratulations, Curtis! 15th Conference Title Win which is 2nd All-Time of Any College Football Team in any Conference. 👍🙏
Nice video dirty job.
I was twisting my hand like I was trying to get the screws out on the other side of the internet.😂
lol🎉
Everyone hates to go Back to a Call and especially Not the Next Day. 🤔🙏
Hey Curtis, could you ever do a video going through your tool bag? Really insightful on what I should have in mine. I’m a trade student almost out of school
Doesn't your trade school teach you that? I think they should! You need to be well prepared when you go to a customer's home to service, maintain or repair a unit!
It’s a Payne when you get callbacks
I have that furnace with an ECM motor, a Carrier coil, and Bosch heat pump.
no drip leg on the gas to?
Did you know that some of the new code in many jurisdictions are completely removing the requirement for the drip leg. That is how it is around here already.
Again Georgia and my Texas. Good luck to both of us.
Yes we need it!
I had a feeling you would be back on this one. I had headphones on and it did not sound quit right.
Wire bundle is in front of the status light window. 😮
Do you need a socket set. For your work some time? Saw and metric. 1/4” to 3/8” set?
That's some more weight for the Veto bag.
What was that long yellow and chrome screwdriver? Thanks for the vid
Klein magnetic nutdriver
good 1/4 inch rachet swivel an what ever size that was on your drill would work good in tight spots like that
what would be nice if they made a deep batter terminal cleaner for a drill that can be used to clean those fan stem lot easier then the wheel brush
Great video, Curtis! I'm shocked the control board survived all that trauma! Just one question, since you put in a brand new 7.5 cap yesterday and had to switch to a 10 today, how do charge that to the customer?
Just for motor, latest cap, and labor
It may look simple to you Curtis but I wouldn’t know where to start. It did sound like a model T ford on a bad day you must have had your ear plugs in.😂
Go Dawgs! Even though we've lived in Dallas for 45 years we're rooting for Georgia. Rick - Gators 78
We have lived in Tomball, Texas for 46 years and rooting for Georgia!
If they worked at it they could probably design it to be harder to work on.
Does the circuit board actually have some type of mount? Or does it just sit on there?
Originally I’m sure it had some sort of plastic mount
I would use an angle bit and bit extender for better use because that is difficult to access those fan blower motor
No one ever puts an ammeter on motors or compressors after changing caps, always thought that was strange, that was always standard practice for my dad 40yrs ago.
No pun intended; maybe in Georgia is different!
Thanks for the reminder from your dad..
Enjoy your videos it seems like the fans seem to fail at a high rate. Is there any preventative maintenance that can be done to prevent this or is it just what it is?
Customers don't replace their air filters allow for conditions seen in this video. I'll say if they do that chances are fan motors will last longer; also the squirrel cage or propeller was caked with dirt which I'm sure at high speed will load up motor. Even a 1/2 HP motor!
Thanks for the reply I’m aircraft mechanic been for almost 33 years. I love learning new things and gaining knowledge.
@@Cmyers7211yeh, just change your filters regularly.
@@HVACGUY I’ve watched a lot of your videos. I really enjoy them. I like to find the root cause on why a lot of these components, seem to fail a lot and it looks like preventative maintenance Seems to be the culprit. I’m getting towards the end of my military career and I’ve been contemplating going back to school for HVAC or something like that.
38 degrees? That's bbq weather without sweating here in NE Ohio!
Here in Houston, Texas is only 42 and going down to 37 tonight! BRRRRR !!!
Here in Australia 100kms south of Sydney, Sunday morning @ 11.00 (DST) it's arleady hit 33c 😵 Au
Shoot I'm out running errands on my Harley. In the 20's up here in Michigan. 38 is not really bad,for in town runs. 👍
My bad, the status light is still visible.
its always a day when even your tools fight you
Old Steve Lavi would be swearing and cussing and ripping his hair out dealing with one, boy o boy.
Makes me wonder what the coils look like...
Angle driver or a flex shaft you need curtis
Problem is some equipment is badly designed and you need to spend extra time to complete repairs; end result is costly repairs! Real bad if system is still in warranty!
Swivel socket(s) with an extension could have made the re-install easier.
Go Dawgs from a Irish fan.
Go Dawgs! Dia Duit
@@HVACGUY and with you
Milwaukee should sponsor you
That would be cool
Why don't you remove your hitch. How many times have you bumped into it, or tripped over it?
I use it at least once a week. And I’m too lazy to put it on and remove it every time I use it.
20 years of experience tell me that whenever a cap goes bad on an indoor blower motor the root cause normally is a defective motor. It usually will come back to bite you if you don’t replace that motor
You suppose that blower ran without a filter to get all that dirty?
Probably!
I have learned that if you have to replace the wrong cap typically means that the blower itself is going out for at least that’s my experience
Had to replace the capacitor again? Watching the "GAME" while watching this, and no, GA "sent in their lacrosse team"
You can't stop a Payne.....or can you?
....they pulled me back in.
Great video up until the boiled peanuts. Definitely an acquired taste !
I thought the motor was creating way too much AC hum even after it was fixed. You can probably hear it more on the video than in person.
Good job, but it sounds like the squirrel cage is rubbing on something. Sounds awfully noisy for a new motor.
The Payne was a pain. Too bad the engineers and designers of these units are not required to work on them as they would make things easier.
Should have replaced it yesterday!!
I hope they fired the engineer who designed that circuit board mount.
If you think its cold come to canada lol
😎👍😎👍😎👍
UT sent their Lacrosse team to Georgia
Why don’t you cut wires to length instead of bundling excess with a wire tie?
The next tech to work on the unit might appreciate the excess wire length, in my humble opinion.
Nothing worse than watching someone ride the struggle bus and not being there to help them
I would have had the same callback cause I won’t change parts when they show no signs of being bad….but however when I do change a capacitor I will first explain to the customer that the blower or fan motor could not last very much longer and give them the option to go ahead and charge it or wait…75% of the time they prefer to wait…good job not putting profit ahead of the customer
It's lucky we're not in the Health Insurance business!
NNAASSTTYY.
What a Payne in the arse that was!
What a structural POS. The design engineer should have to come out with you and have to work on it. My compliments to you Curtis for a job well done with what you had to work with.
Sorry but I had a feeling this was coming back.
Unfortunately that’s how it worked out
Koodos to you Curtis for not swapping out what otherwise might have been a good motor based on your experience. Many unscrupulous techs would have unnecessarily done it just to get more money from the customer. As it turned out however, the motor was bad, but at least now you know it for sure.
I knew he would be back after swapping that cap, I have seen it a hell of a lot of times that the motor took out the cap, once the new cap is in, the motor bites is shortly after. If I see them like that, I try and do them both at the same time. I have a feeling that isn't the last time he is going to see that system.
Nasty jobs in nasty places are always sources of a callback or two; $hark$.!!!
1st😂
At 38.20 watch the cockroach walk down the side of the circuit board...
A warm roach is a happy roach.
For a minute there I thought you started working in a coal mine.
Dang Chinese tools.....great job.
Bad Motor
Im not afraid or ashamed to use my cell phone camera to take pictures of wires on a board for re connection.
Wasn't 1 of your quality jobs, Blower motor mount no rubber washers, left screw out of bottom & motor was sure noisy after that, sure it was cold but the factory put those screws & mounts their for a reason. sure you could've got board mounted somehow.
Id bet quiet often you wish you had choosen a different career path..
Not yet
Video is too long,, edit.
Go to college kids...stay away from this trade.
I completely agree with this statement. I have two degrees and own two businesses, one being HVAC/R. In HVAC, you can make a great living and learn a lot. College debt is not worth it, but I paid as I went, and it was a long time ago. However, don't work in the South, where there is high humidity and don't work low-income areas. Business in the Denver Metro area and suburbs is great and has great income opportunities. But I hate working on family's systems in Oklahoma and Texas. But the systems in Washington State and Idaho are great also. Same applies to plumbing and electrical. Great trades with the right companies and training. College isn't for everyone and all it does is leave millions of people in huge debt and most don't even use their degrees. But I would never work in Georgia or say Houston, hell no!