Good old Wheeler Dealers, dam i miss these older episodes. Watched it for 10 years in Portugal, amazing show and Edd work was amazing, Mike was important but i feel it let Edd down so many times by under selling the car and sometimes pretty much giving it away for free over so many episodes
Ummm.. It's not real life or a commercial business Leandro... it's just a TV show for entertainment purposes only. If you were to truly calculate the labour at any workshop all these cars would incur a MASSIVE loss..
@@CathodeRayNipplez I know its a show but the buying and selling the cars was not faked so they where legitimable businesses so i find it weird they would incur massive losses as they never spent that much in the restauration and repair and they boght mostly from private owners wich do prices below those of dealerships
@@leandro9311 Dude.. you are totally missing the point.. The cost of the car and it's resale is so irrelevant it doesn't even register in the budget costs.. Massive losses? What a couple of grand? The episode production costs are 100 fold whatever the stupid hunk o junk is on camera? Do have any idea how much one single episode costs to make?
hmmmmmmmmmmm....TVR chassis.....During a factory tour with the genuinely delightful Ben Samuelson ('Marketing') I spotted a load of finished units outside, untreated , in the rain... I commented saying that might make them vulnerable ....official line was that they are so thick they would never rust through....Ohhh, yyyyyyyyyyyy didnt they galvanize and add a few hundred to the price - such a fundamental item, and when u have a rust proof body, it was so obvious to get chassis right - great opportunity missed, thx to the accountants no doubt Great cars, great madly enthusiastic hard working team...a few easily rectifiable flaws Ben, if your name comes up in a link... Hi ! :) - I thoroughly enjoyed dinner with you and your fiance and desperately miss the factory and the great team under the charismatic, drole PW :)
@@fullfunk not amateurs, more skilled enthusiasts with a sprinkling of genius and hi-level skills, resulting in cars which are: lighter than competitors more appealing than most versatile top design bespoke Brit interiors virtually everything built in-house more performance than most more power / weight than most better lb ft / lb / £ Charismatic fully hands on owner Nothing else souds like a TVR :)
That's one hell of a lot of work and outlay for replacement parts! Had the chassis originally been galvanised it would possibly still be intact rather than scrap!
I've always wanted a TVR, never did buy one though, now I'm glad I never did. TVR's are all hand built so not a cheap car to buy new, but watching this is makes me wonder just why didn't TVR make a better job of protecting the chassis to start with, by using a galvanised chassis then powder coating it, if need be, ok so that might have increased the purchase price of the car when new, but whats another £2000 on a £40 or 50k car.
I looked all over for the next part and could not locate it. I really wanted to see the TVR test drive. I question how the framework could have rotted like it did. Do they salt the roads in the UK? The powder coating should have saved it. If it's a known problem then the rubberized coatings used on American autos. I know nothing of this particular car but I liked the looks and design. I have seen a lot of midwest and east coast cars here in the states that have completely rotted out but it's due to the salt used on the roads during the winter.
That chassis looks like nothing else. It wouldn't corrode if it was aluminum. This is a Very cool car. Glad to see it now has a new lease on life. Thank you.
Same work on my Chimaera……… it’s been 15 monthes I have started up that job, and to-day, it’s far from being finished…… I expect another 3-6 monthes, before I can get my MOT……🙁
1) I miss Edd on WD. Ant is fine - but Edd was King. 2) The car is gorgeous - I'd never seen one before I saw this episode - but such horrible rust protection for a relatively, recent car...especially a luxury one.
Yeah, beautiful car but that potential for rust makes it worthless. At the beginning I wanted one, towards the middle I was already thinking how much better any Japanese car would be. By the 8 minute mark, I was convinced to stick with Honda, Toyota, or Mazda for a sporty car. Nice looking car, but that chassis rust is an obvious manufacturer design flaw. Reinforcement paint and protection should’ve been added from the start in a country that has snow 🤦🏽♂️ it’s almost insane how it doesn’t have any protection
@@Mr_Bones. I agree 100% - felt the same sort of way at about the same, time frames. How frigging much could it POSSIBLY have cost them to make the frame, rust proof on the production line? An extra $15-20? Tops? Morons.
I don't know why some manufacturers insist on using a plastic coating for corrosion control. To be blunt, it's worse than having nothing at all. If there is any breach in the coating at all, corrosion at that point will be accelerated due to electrolysis. The corrosion that would normally be even over the entire part now takes place at that one little breach or pinhole. The best method for corrosion control is raw steel with a good coating of used motor oil sprayed on once a year. The oil will help to slow the advance of corrosion and there will never be a spot where concentrated corrosion takes place. Smart manufacturers use a product called neotar for an under coating. Neotar is opaque black in colour and is a petroleum based product that can be easily renewed with a garden sprayer and then just leave it. Petroleum based undercoats don't work by sealing the metal but by acting as a water shed as the oil repels water. No water, no rust.
@@stephenconway2468 LOL, no. I didn't work in an area where that was possible for me, but i know some that did. Sadly, that little hobby became frowned upon by management.
@@poodle559 It is now considered part of the car's personality. The pity of it is that TVR's were amazing to look at and so very interesting. Then again, I always wanted a Marcos GT 1800.
Actually this chassis was fixed by a company that Mike showed. They take rusted TVR chassis and weld and fix them then galvanise it and powder coat it (in any colour you want). So I'd say technically they fixed it, just that someone else did it. 😄
Why on Earth were the TVR chassis not all galvanized as standard? I worked at a towbar and trailer centre from the early 90s and the trailers we made ALL came with galvanized chassis that was guaranteed not to rust for either 20 or 30 YEARS!!! These were trailers that sold for roughly £1000-3500 in 90s money. These motors were sold for £35,000-£50,000 from what i remember? Peter Wheeler made SO MANY foolish decisions and stupid cost cutting that ended up killing TVR off for good. So sad as TVRs are epic cars that were ruined by Wheelers dodgy dealings!
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Wheeler Dealers with all Edd and no Mike. Perfect.
Shows when Mike is included, I mute and fast forward.
Why no Mike? I like Mike
I have missed you Edd China. Glad to hear your teaching again; it is great useable knowledge. Thanks, RS.
I agree ,he is a quality broadcaster,needs to be back on on a regular show.
A rare appearance by the elusive PAUL !!!
The legendary silent sidekick!
Full Ledge
Who but Mike (and Paul) could do that chassis swap without almost breaking sweat??? Amazing.
Was a Wheelers Dealer marathon yesterday with Edd on Motortrend Enjoyed Completely
I love watching Edd do his thing !
very good show with edd I liked all his shows and learned alot
Good old Wheeler Dealers, dam i miss these older episodes. Watched it for 10 years in Portugal, amazing show and Edd work was amazing, Mike was important but i feel it let Edd down so many times by under selling the car and sometimes pretty much giving it away for free over so many episodes
Ummm.. It's not real life or a commercial business Leandro... it's just a TV show for entertainment purposes only. If you were to truly calculate the labour at any workshop all these cars would incur a MASSIVE loss..
@@CathodeRayNipplez I know its a show but the buying and selling the cars was not faked so they where legitimable businesses so i find it weird they would incur massive losses as they never spent that much in the restauration and repair and they boght mostly from private owners wich do prices below those of dealerships
@@leandro9311 Dude.. you are totally missing the point.. The cost of the car and it's resale is so irrelevant it doesn't even register in the budget costs.. Massive losses? What a couple of grand? The episode production costs are 100 fold whatever the stupid hunk o junk is on camera? Do have any idea how much one single episode costs to make?
@@CathodeRayNipplez But i mean on the cars !! The show is just an add-on
Really great video and explanation !!! Thanks and cheers from France
hmmmmmmmmmmm....TVR chassis.....During a factory tour with the genuinely delightful Ben Samuelson ('Marketing') I spotted a load of finished units outside, untreated , in the rain... I commented saying that might make them vulnerable ....official line was that they are so thick they would never rust through....Ohhh, yyyyyyyyyyyy didnt they galvanize and add a few hundred to the price - such a fundamental item, and when u have a rust proof body, it was so obvious to get chassis right - great opportunity missed, thx to the accountants no doubt
Great cars, great madly enthusiastic hard working team...a few easily rectifiable flaws
Ben, if your name comes up in a link... Hi ! :) - I thoroughly enjoyed dinner with you and your fiance and desperately miss the factory and the great team under the charismatic, drole PW :)
This is why we are shit at stuff like that.
yeh they a bunch of amateurs basicly your buying a kit car... but for over 20k its pass
Agreed 100%
@@fullfunk not amateurs, more skilled enthusiasts with a sprinkling of genius and hi-level skills, resulting in cars which are:
lighter than competitors
more appealing than most
versatile top design
bespoke Brit interiors
virtually everything built in-house
more performance than most
more power / weight than most
better lb ft / lb / £
Charismatic fully hands on owner
Nothing else souds like a TVR :)
The legend himself Mr Edd China 🇨🇳
Mike popping up at the end just soured the whole clip.
The brilliant Edd so enjoyable to watch.
I really miss Edd China. I wish he was back on WD or on a show of his own.
Tax and MOT ran out in 2020. Wonder what happened to it after the show ?
You can almost completely renew the car for relatively low cost with these! And the look beautiful too - what a machine!
That's one hell of a lot of work and outlay for replacement parts!
Had the chassis originally been galvanised it would possibly still be intact rather than scrap!
Great video staring " el maestro " Ed China! Where's the second part?
I've always wanted a TVR, never did buy one though, now I'm glad I never did. TVR's are all hand built so not a cheap car to buy new, but watching this is makes me wonder just why didn't TVR make a better job of protecting the chassis to start with, by using a galvanised chassis then powder coating it, if need be, ok so that might have increased the purchase price of the car when new, but whats another £2000 on a £40 or 50k car.
My favourite episode ever. Is this car still alive?
I looked all over for the next part and could not locate it. I really wanted to see the TVR test drive. I question how the framework could have rotted like it did.
Do they salt the roads in the UK? The powder coating should have saved it. If it's a known problem then the rubberized coatings used on American autos.
I know nothing of this particular car but I liked the looks and design.
I have seen a lot of midwest and east coast cars here in the states that have completely rotted out but it's due to the salt used on the roads during the winter.
That chassis looks like nothing else. It wouldn't corrode if it was aluminum. This is a Very cool car. Glad to see it now has a new lease on life. Thank you.
Aluminium is more corrosive than steel, the chassis should be made of stainless steel.
Lol it's funny how fast and easy these shows make it look.
2 men -2 days?
That would take me 5 years
I'm sure one day in this context is 24 hours.
Plus a box of nuts and bolts left oiver !
Same work on my Chimaera……… it’s been 15 monthes I have started up that job, and to-day, it’s far from being finished…… I expect another 3-6 monthes, before I can get my MOT……🙁
if you get a haynes manual(if there's one for your car), it's absolutely possible
Great stuff , can’t wait for the next vlog
Geat video WD TV 👍🙂
Hopefully picking one of these up soon:)
1) I miss Edd on WD. Ant is fine - but Edd was King.
2) The car is gorgeous - I'd never seen one before I saw this episode - but such horrible rust protection for a relatively, recent car...especially a luxury one.
Yeah, beautiful car but that potential for rust makes it worthless. At the beginning I wanted one, towards the middle I was already thinking how much better any Japanese car would be. By the 8 minute mark, I was convinced to stick with Honda, Toyota, or Mazda for a sporty car. Nice looking car, but that chassis rust is an obvious manufacturer design flaw. Reinforcement paint and protection should’ve been added from the start in a country that has snow 🤦🏽♂️ it’s almost insane how it doesn’t have any protection
@@Mr_Bones. I agree 100% - felt the same sort of way at about the same, time frames.
How frigging much could it POSSIBLY have cost them to make the frame, rust proof on the production line? An extra $15-20? Tops?
Morons.
weird how this clip has popped up on RUclips once Ed left the show, yeah?
I don't know why some manufacturers insist on using a plastic coating for corrosion control. To be blunt, it's worse than having nothing at all. If there is any breach in the coating at all, corrosion at that point will be accelerated due to electrolysis. The corrosion that would normally be even over the entire part now takes place at that one little breach or pinhole. The best method for corrosion control is raw steel with a good coating of used motor oil sprayed on once a year. The oil will help to slow the advance of corrosion and there will never be a spot where concentrated corrosion takes place. Smart manufacturers use a product called neotar for an under coating. Neotar is opaque black in colour and is a petroleum based product that can be easily renewed with a garden sprayer and then just leave it. Petroleum based undercoats don't work by sealing the metal but by acting as a water shed as the oil repels water. No water, no rust.
Interesting information.
Galvanise it, end of.
Excellent. Excellent. Excellent.
Where's the last part. Sale of vehicle, cost and profit??
Great video.🔩🔧👍
Me, stressed when I strip a Worcester boiler down 😭😂. Man’s a genius 👏👏
Wish I had a chance to buy one of the redone cars from the show
Like watching Mozart explain The Magic Flute.
*Que belo carro!!*
This is what wheeler dealers is supposed to be.
Desmontan el Cervera por completo.....y deja los discos de freno podridos 🤔🤔
The episodes keep ending right when it's getting good... I don't see a episode 2..
He worked hard always but he barely sat in front of the steering wheel.
Ed is the best !!!! I dont need to see Mike.
Came here after watching Cartrek and seeing the same rusty mess underneath the Carisma Cerebra on that show 😢
Always liked the idea of TVR..... but boy I would go near one now after seeing this. Scary.....
I worked for TVR for 7 years and trust me, i wouldn't go near one either!
@@poodle559 Did you leave any interesting drawings in the boot?
@@stephenconway2468 LOL, no. I didn't work in an area where that was possible for me, but i know some that did. Sadly, that little hobby became frowned upon by management.
@@poodle559 It is now considered part of the car's personality. The pity of it is that TVR's were amazing to look at and so very interesting. Then again, I always wanted a Marcos GT 1800.
Simple discription errors .... ugh .
Mike who???
Would’ve been cool if the original chassis was sand blasted, repaired and powder coated again.. idk I like fixing over replacing 😀
This was rusted AF
Actually this chassis was fixed by a company that Mike showed. They take rusted TVR chassis and weld and fix them then galvanise it and powder coat it (in any colour you want).
So I'd say technically they fixed it, just that someone else did it. 😄
They used a mechanic from a TVR garage to do all the work then had Edd holding a few spanners to make it look like he did it.
He reckons around 2k for a specialist to remove then reinstall the chassis, try 8k if you can get anyone willing to do it😂
J’ai acheté une Chimaera, qui présente les mêmes problèmes……… il faut tout changer……… ££££££. 🙁
So basically a rebuild.
I'm watching from the front
I don't understand english
I think I can convey what I want to say.
EDD orange globe！🤣🤣🤣
Not a great advert for TVR
Crikey. What a load of work for a professional like Edd, imagine if some poor unsuspecting punter brought it.
The past two seasons have been terrible. Both in format, and in feel. Such a shame
What an absolute pain in the ass
My god David Stuart are you in a dream.
Edd China is way better than the crap built car !
Non car guy alert
Uncool person alert
Engineering and TVR do not mix. Worst cars ever built besides the Yugo.
Worst cars ever built? 420 bhp from a 120Kg engine. You won't find better today!!
Garbage cars, wouldn't pay a cent for any TVR
Non car guy
Why on Earth were the TVR chassis not all galvanized as standard? I worked at a towbar and trailer centre from the early 90s and the trailers we made ALL came with galvanized chassis that was guaranteed not to rust for either 20 or 30 YEARS!!! These were trailers that sold for roughly £1000-3500 in 90s money. These motors were sold for £35,000-£50,000 from what i remember? Peter Wheeler made SO MANY foolish decisions and stupid cost cutting that ended up killing TVR off for good. So sad as TVRs are epic cars that were ruined by Wheelers dodgy dealings!
The gaps around the hood and fenders wow.