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I was thinking, if you're going to do like 1 vs an army or something like the ultra vs zerglings, would it be possible to include the hp of the single unit? Sorta like a raid boss.
@@reallyhightemplar4013 A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood but a woodchuck can't chuck wood
In GiantGrantGames series about Legacy of te Void Zerg edition, enemy zergs had every mutation and more upgradea that him. Ultralisk were basicly immortal.
@@Skullhawk13 no they weren't lmfao. Monarch Blades is a direct upgrade, in normal PVP gameplay ultralisks do not get 100% cleave, or in any other official game mode
@@murphy54000 in ladder they hit for 35 with 33% cleave. Ultralisks are nerfed for campaign, I just forgot precisely how and my response got deleted randomly. That’s campaign stats
@@rampantsarcasm2220 it deleted my response but Ultralisk are nerfed to 25 damage with 20% cleave in campaign. So you’re wrong about them not being nerfed, It’s 35 with 33% cleave in ladder. I was wrong about Monarch blades but that doesn’t mean I was wrong about Ultralisks being nerfed I just forgot how.
Harmstem Beating Grandmasters with stupid stuff = rushing all upgrades from the start. . If you can survive the early game, it doesnt get to the late game....
@@lancelot5286 Karax immortal can attack air, basically they have the annihilator ability from the campaign but kept their ability and model Zeratul also have immortal type unit that can attack air they are called enforcer
@@jexx2974 IRC they ended up doing significantly more damage against everything. Something like a scaling 5dps/10dps/15dps. I remember being able to kill squads of marines with just a few fully charged VRs
First, NOONE can beat Immortals. Second, in fights like first one with ultralisk i think its better to place somewhere a hud with healbar of ultralisk to see the numbers. Third, make similar fight with upgraded Torrasque or Noxios vs not upgraded Zerglings, or Brutalisk, Omegalisk or else vs someone small, maybe even Broodlings with upgraded lifetimers. Thank you for the video.
You know my 5 working braincells took a good few seconds to comprehend how those queens managed to beat the tanks at that cheap resource cost. It was the movement speed, real queens can barely move without creep. The Direct Strike engine seemed real confused for that fight, because as I understand it units have uniform speed until engaged in combat, and there were periods of time when the queens did indeed move incredibly slowly. But they were clearly engaged in comabt when they rapidly dashed towards the tanks, so why?
That tank fight was bullshit. Queens were running at full speed until they're almost in range of the tanks, then they slowed to their normal off creep speed.
They technically also shouldn't be able to transfuse off creep after the last patch. Think creep would be too much work to incorporate into the videos (haven't played much Direct Strike so Idk if creep is used in it at all).
That was tight for that Ultralisk, but I am glad to see his armor saved him. The only one I was surprised out was the Queens beating the Siege tanks. Third attempt for Fenix and Whirlwind Zealots vs Dragoon Fenix and Dragoons
@@legoupil1819 Gotcha. They just kept healing each other and kept slinging shots. And they do work. Lynchpin units for Terran I imagine are Marines, Medics, Siege Tanks, Thors, and Battlecruisers.
@@seanwhitman8353 honestly, even after 12 years, it’s hard to beat MMM. and once you add siege tanks, it’s borderline unbeatable if you know how to manage your eco. It’s how Clem made his fame
stalker blink really only helps out against melee or if the stalkers are at a critical mass where those that blink away can regen some shields by the time they get targeted again.
@@fabr1cat0rgeneral94 Sometimes if there's too many stalkers they will end up blinking behind the other army, immediately getting themselves killed by the enemies that weren't in range yet to start firing.
Stalkers and Immortals both have the same range, so it would be interesting to see if they'd fare better with a blink range of 1 - enough to force the Immortals to acquire new targets, but with less time wasted walking back into combat.
Seige tanks actually have pretty low DPS, they just have high damage per shot and splash. Hellbats are kinda high DPS, but again mostly a splash unit, and it's anti light DPS, when most died versus the armoured roaches.
Played a game once (ok maybe dozens of times) called zergling defense one of my favorite strats it to put an ultra with up to 3medics in a corner on hold position and it almost always wins
4/5 It'd be nice if you showed the price of upgrades still to show how much you'd throw down the drain sending Un upgraded lings against a maxed out Ultralisk. (Also, to show the upgrades and abilities of the 2nd set of units.) Immortal DPS was the Deciding Factor in that fight, Blink wasn't as help full. Those Roaches were needed for the Hydralisks to deal damage. With the Ghost removing them instantly, that meant the squishy caterpillar cows became Trophies for the Marines. Thor Anti air kinda Ridicc ngl Turns out Roach Bulk and Queen healing Beats out the strategy of blocking them with hellbat so tanks can siege up. Never again shall i underestimate Transfusion.
3/5 Bruh if there was ONE MORE ZERGLING- Christ, Immortals are STRONK. I thought the sheer number of Stalkers would have let their Zealots punch through faster, but gahd DAYUM God, I used to think Hydras were crazy strong but I swear they lose 90% of their battles. I never vote for them now. Oh, yeah. The new Thor anti-air is absolute madness. I figured the Roaches would do better, but damn those Queens really pulled through.
Sieged siege tanks do huge bonus dmg vs Armoured, so they shred high HP Armoured units, their splash dmg takes out low HP Light units; Queens have high HP and are Psionic instead of Armoured, that's why they could get close to the tanks
First 5/5, zerglings dealing 1 damage vs the ultra is insane. 2: always bet on immortals 3: ghosts counter both roaches and hydras lol 4: tempests dont have the clear speed and carriers the damage to take out thors 5: hellbats are bad
The protoss I find got nerfed significantly from the first game and I may be wrong but I don't think the carriers need to be that close to a unit to attack they can send their drones from a safer distance instead of parking themselves on top of the enemies lol.
The first fight definitely would have been in the Zergling's favor IF this was SC1 and not SC2 simply because in SC1 Ultralisks didn't have the ability to hit multiple models at once.
I actually got the queens wrong. I just assumed that they couldn't use transfuse off of creep. So yeah, didn't realize they were the older version of queens.
This just goes to show that 1. You SHOULD NOT let zerg reach late game(won 1 game, lost 1 game with leaving the terran at the edge) 2. Protoss is horrible for late game(lost both fights) 3. Terran would be a fair fight in late game but with the right strat, they'd be almost as rough as zergs This is gonna cause so much arguments...but i like it
Do... Do ghosts ever lose? Like, I don't play SC2 and have no investment in the meta but I think ghosts may be OP, I don't think I've ever seen them lose.
A Torasque Ultralisk with those stats and Tissue Assimilation would have not taken so much damage, and the Torasuqe part would have not made it seem as close.
2/5 1 - ultra - with 5 armor against lings that can do 1 damage? yeah ultra ulta - though closer than i thought 2 - stalkers - stalkers can help take the zealots down moreso than immortals. theres 40 of em. immortals - tbh i think without blink it couldve been different 3 - zerg - i know its bad to bet against marines but its a good composition, both front and back can fire terran - OK, so yeah my bad 4 - protoss - i mean 12 tempests?? thats a death fleet terran - OK, so thor has good anti-air 5 - zerg - 16 queens can transfuse ZERG - HAHAH I GOT 1, HELL YEAH, i mean yeah of course i knew, but goddamn those QUEENS COULD TANK!
The last battle would have been closer if you didn’t let the tanks go into siege mode. Not quite enough units clumped to justify splash, and deploying mid fight is never ideal.
I thought the tanks and hellbats would win the last one for sure, but the tanks d it didn't seem to do any damage to the queens; they probably did more damage to the hellbats.
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It's normal
Noxious Ultralisk vs Zerglings
Tosh vs Nux
Vile vs Corpser Roach
Impalers + Roaches vs Maruaders
You should try doing mixed races. Like protoss with allied Terran units. Or zerg with allied protoss units.
I was thinking, if you're going to do like 1 vs an army or something like the ultra vs zerglings, would it be possible to include the hp of the single unit? Sorta like a raid boss.
Question, how low was the ultra on the first fight?
- How many zerglings can an Ultra take?
- Yes.
How much wood would a wood chuck chuck?
@@reallyhightemplar4013 uhhh what?
Beat me to it
More than you’ve got
@@reallyhightemplar4013 A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood but a woodchuck can't chuck wood
imagine the ultralisk with either tissue assimilation or monarch blades. it would be almost unkillable
In GiantGrantGames series about Legacy of te Void Zerg edition, enemy zergs had every mutation and more upgradea that him. Ultralisk were basicly immortal.
@@Skullhawk13 no they weren't lmfao. Monarch Blades is a direct upgrade, in normal PVP gameplay ultralisks do not get 100% cleave, or in any other official game mode
@@Skullhawk13 in ladder games they only splash 5 damage instead of 25
@@murphy54000 in ladder they hit for 35 with 33% cleave. Ultralisks are nerfed for campaign, I just forgot precisely how and my response got deleted randomly. That’s campaign stats
@@rampantsarcasm2220 it deleted my response but Ultralisk are nerfed to 25 damage with 20% cleave in campaign. So you’re wrong about them not being nerfed, It’s 35 with 33% cleave in ladder. I was wrong about Monarch blades but that doesn’t mean I was wrong about Ultralisks being nerfed I just forgot how.
*sees the results of the first fight*
"Upgrades, people, upgrades!"
Harmstem
Beating Grandmasters with stupid stuff = rushing all upgrades from the start.
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If you can survive the early game, it doesnt get to the late game....
@@brianfhunter He did that already :P
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Ah yes, queens advancing on sieges. My favorite matchup.
Honestly tho I'm surprised the queens won that
Queen's healing ability is broken. They just refuse to die
Its the same with immortals, never bet against them
@@BestPrezz Depends on how many there are. Mass siege tanks will demolish mass queens easy. The queens won here because tanks can’t 1hko.
They were very spaced out. Seemed like more so than usual.
Local Zerg player unaware of the single unit carrying the race since WoL, more at 9.
Always bet against the Hell-bat is what I've learned from these
@OHMZ what? Tell that to pros. And anyone with half a brain lmao
@@Ghost1170 yeah, the direct strike pros certainly wanna discuss that xD
Just imagining zergling at the heels of the ultra crying ‘I’m trying guys, I’m really trying!!!’
no such thing as heel or cry or try or etc, cepuxuax, outx, can outx any nmw s perfx
@@zes7215 What friggin language is that?
Immortals vs stalkers is just a clear example of tier difference in units, the efficiency speaks for them alone.
Also roaches? More like snipe baits.
eh, its more that immortals directly counter stalkers
Is there a way you can get WoL void rays and old hardened shield Immortals? It would be cool to have those in the rotation.
wait, immortals can attack air ?
@@lancelot5286 Karax immortal can attack air, basically they have the annihilator ability from the campaign but kept their ability and model
Zeratul also have immortal type unit that can attack air they are called enforcer
@@lancelot5286 No but I belive he is referencing void rays that charge up their beam by attacking instead of activating prismatic alignment.
@@jexx2974 most definitely is.
@@jexx2974 IRC they ended up doing significantly more damage against everything. Something like a scaling 5dps/10dps/15dps. I remember being able to kill squads of marines with just a few fully charged VRs
I know from a very painful match of trying out protoss that indeed the Thor works wonders against tempests
Tya: Hey, ultralisk! How many zerglings can you take?
Ultralisk: Everyone..
Stansfield from Léon the Professional: EEEEEEVERYYYYYOOOOONNNNNNNE!!! :D
that ultralisk zergling fight was a nice dose of ASMR :3
It's like pouring them into a blender
Ultralisk chopping up his meat salad 😁
Players: waiting for Zera in DS.
Tya: How many 0/0 Zerglings can 1 Ultra take?
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First, NOONE can beat Immortals.
Second, in fights like first one with ultralisk i think its better to place somewhere a hud with healbar of ultralisk to see the numbers.
Third, make similar fight with upgraded Torrasque or Noxios vs not upgraded Zerglings, or Brutalisk, Omegalisk or else vs someone small, maybe even Broodlings with upgraded lifetimers.
Thank you for the video.
I have a suggestion, since we’ve seen what could happen if photon cannons could move, what if siege tanks could move in siege mode??
You know my 5 working braincells took a good few seconds to comprehend how those queens managed to beat the tanks at that cheap resource cost. It was the movement speed, real queens can barely move without creep. The Direct Strike engine seemed real confused for that fight, because as I understand it units have uniform speed until engaged in combat, and there were periods of time when the queens did indeed move incredibly slowly. But they were clearly engaged in comabt when they rapidly dashed towards the tanks, so why?
They also can trsnsfuse of creep. Which isn't how they work in multiplayer anymore
I thought its hots campaing queens, but you right, something broke in that fight
I don't even play Starcraft. Why do I keep watching these?
Easy 5/5 i was so worried Ultra didnt make it 🤣
751 Zerglings. Thats the magic number!
@@Ryukishi442 Depending on positioning that extra zergling might just get mulched from splash before doing any damage. 760 for safety
10 nukes are better! Just to be sure!!!
A fully upgraded Ultra when 750 unupgraded Zerglings approach: 😎
A fully upgraded Ultra when 751 unupgraded Zerglings approach: 😦
Immortals massacreing stalkers? Love it
4/5 didnt expect that ultra go so low as it did haha
Also 4/5 but I put too much on Siege Tanks
@@radmir_khusnutdinov im a bit salty for that, the new queens cant transfuse off creep, so i was betting tanks
Nice seeing those Immortals clean up.
imagine if that ultralisk had monarch blades from hots
Great video showcasing Queen’s OP status. No way in hell should 16 Queens be able to beat 10 siege tanks…. What a joke
terrans when they can't press 3 buttons and kill a zerg before the 5 minute mark
That tank fight was bullshit. Queens were running at full speed until they're almost in range of the tanks, then they slowed to their normal off creep speed.
Danm... those Brendas as tough (that was a lowko refrence)!
I had been waiting for a long time to see the ultra vs. the ling, simply epic, now we just need ULTRA vs. MARINES 😀
Sometimes it really hard to guess when you only play commander... xD
I always underestimate the power of brenda and the knitting crew
I'm genuinely curious if it'd be possible to have some modded races in there. Failing that, I'm curious if you'll try Stukov's Infested Bunkers.
Last fight was unfair. Queens had a movement bonus speed, but their was no creep.
Though the video was fun, didnt expect 3/3 ultra to be so powerful.
They technically also shouldn't be able to transfuse off creep after the last patch. Think creep would be too much work to incorporate into the videos (haven't played much Direct Strike so Idk if creep is used in it at all).
That was tight for that Ultralisk, but I am glad to see his armor saved him.
The only one I was surprised out was the Queens beating the Siege tanks.
Third attempt for Fenix and Whirlwind Zealots vs Dragoon Fenix and Dragoons
Queens can kill everything. Most OP unit in the game. Fully necessary and doesn't make zerg OP, but it's so strong
@@legoupil1819 Gotcha. They just kept healing each other and kept slinging shots. And they do work.
Lynchpin units for Terran I imagine are Marines, Medics, Siege Tanks, Thors, and Battlecruisers.
@@seanwhitman8353 honestly, even after 12 years, it’s hard to beat MMM. and once you add siege tanks, it’s borderline unbeatable if you know how to manage your eco. It’s how Clem made his fame
I think the stalker blink doesnt work in the stalker's favor. Theres a lot of time the stalker is just not firing after it blinks.
stalker blink really only helps out against melee or if the stalkers are at a critical mass where those that blink away can regen some shields by the time they get targeted again.
It didn’t this time as they couldn’t concentrate fire. Against light opponents, it’s killer
@@fabr1cat0rgeneral94 Sometimes if there's too many stalkers they will end up blinking behind the other army, immediately getting themselves killed by the enemies that weren't in range yet to start firing.
Stalkers and Immortals both have the same range, so it would be interesting to see if they'd fare better with a blink range of 1 - enough to force the Immortals to acquire new targets, but with less time wasted walking back into combat.
That was like watching a honey badger attack a bees nest! He just doesn't give a damn!
Ok, that was an unexpected overkill lmao
last is what happens when lower DPS comp got higher heal output than the high DPS comp
It's higher sustained DPS since units aren't dying and reducing overall group DPS when they otherwise would.
Seige tanks actually have pretty low DPS, they just have high damage per shot and splash.
Hellbats are kinda high DPS, but again mostly a splash unit, and it's anti light DPS, when most died versus the armoured roaches.
Jeez, watching that ultra is like watching a camel spider vs an ant colony in the wild
4 outta 5. Wow, I can not believe the outcome of the last battle. GO underdogs I guess!
I kind of wanted to see the Zerglings win with a single one remaining. MVP 1 Kill :D
remember when countering ultras with 0/0 lings to out number by 1000-1
To be fair though, if your enemy has ultras at 3/3 and you have unupgraded lings at any number then you have done very well to last that long.
now ultralisk is taking a bloodbath with zergling
Played a game once (ok maybe dozens of times) called zergling defense one of my favorite strats it to put an ultra with up to 3medics in a corner on hold position and it almost always wins
Ghosts and ultras have got an enormous boost since SC1
Last time I tried this a 3/3 Ultra could take about 275 0/0 zerglings but that was a long time ago.
Ultralisk: OH YEAH! OH YEAH! OH YEAH! THE MOON... BEAUTIFUL. THE SUN.... MORE BEAUTIFUL, HEHEHEHE. OOOOOHHHH YEAAAAAAAHHHHH
4/5
It'd be nice if you showed the price of upgrades still to show how much you'd throw down the drain sending Un upgraded lings against a maxed out Ultralisk. (Also, to show the upgrades and abilities of the 2nd set of units.)
Immortal DPS was the Deciding Factor in that fight, Blink wasn't as help full.
Those Roaches were needed for the Hydralisks to deal damage. With the Ghost removing them instantly, that meant the squishy caterpillar cows became Trophies for the Marines.
Thor Anti air kinda Ridicc ngl
Turns out Roach Bulk and Queen healing Beats out the strategy of blocking them with hellbat so tanks can siege up.
Never again shall i underestimate Transfusion.
3/4 that last one really surprised me
Ok, at this point you CLEARLY have something against lings
This is the oddest mukbang I've ever seen.
3/5
Bruh if there was ONE MORE ZERGLING-
Christ, Immortals are STRONK. I thought the sheer number of Stalkers would have let their Zealots punch through faster, but gahd DAYUM
God, I used to think Hydras were crazy strong but I swear they lose 90% of their battles. I never vote for them now.
Oh, yeah. The new Thor anti-air is absolute madness.
I figured the Roaches would do better, but damn those Queens really pulled through.
What if the zergling go in in waves from 2 or 4 sides, where you only get one layer of zerglings around the ultra at any time.
Sieged siege tanks do huge bonus dmg vs Armoured, so they shred high HP Armoured units, their splash dmg takes out low HP Light units; Queens have high HP and are Psionic instead of Armoured, that's why they could get close to the tanks
First 5/5, zerglings dealing 1 damage vs the ultra is insane.
2: always bet on immortals
3: ghosts counter both roaches and hydras lol
4: tempests dont have the clear speed and carriers the damage to take out thors
5: hellbats are bad
Were the blink stalkers controlled by an AI or microed by you? I think it was the former the reactions were too clean
The thor/BC one surprised me, basically half the minerals and yet...
The protoss I find got nerfed significantly from the first game and I may be wrong but I don't think the carriers need to be that close to a unit to attack they can send their drones from a safer distance instead of parking themselves on top of the enemies lol.
“I used the zerg to destroy the zerg.” - Thanos
What did I learn from this channel? Protoss always lose. If the protoss won, then they fought against other protoss.
The one exception is if the Protoss have immortals. Always bet on immortals.
Unless they're facing ghosts. Always bet on ghosts.
1/5 gang represent! (my only correct prediction was the ultra, it was scary how close that was!)
That was super close 1 or 2 more zerglings would have tipped it.
Those queens really surprised me
The first fight definitely would have been in the Zergling's favor IF this was SC1 and not SC2 simply because in SC1 Ultralisks didn't have the ability to hit multiple models at once.
I love ultras wish they were reworked using them as a head first counter into heavy units would be bad ass but they just have the ai of Dumbo
I actually got the queens wrong. I just assumed that they couldn't use transfuse off of creep. So yeah, didn't realize they were the older version of queens.
This just goes to show that
1. You SHOULD NOT let zerg reach late game(won 1 game, lost 1 game with leaving the terran at the edge)
2. Protoss is horrible for late game(lost both fights)
3. Terran would be a fair fight in late game but with the right strat, they'd be almost as rough as zergs
This is gonna cause so much arguments...but i like it
Make me want to scarf down a few nice rare cheese burgers. Ok thanks - Jerry
Okay but how many 3/3/3 zerglings can 1 0/0/0 Ultralisk take?
Queens Brenda too OP
Ghosts: "All too easy..."
What was the health remaining on that first ultra?!
Thanks, youtuber.
I've been away from SC2 for too long, do thors not shoot rockets anymore?
The Ultra was just hungry...
4/5 holy crap ghosts are nuts
5/5, Didnt guess a single one correctly but a bingo is still a bingo.
Years of strategy revolving around unupgraded Zerglings wasted!
I’ll never leave bronze league now
4/5 today siege tanks weren't effective as i thought.
4/5. Underestimated how slow Tempests recharged...
Same... For some reason thought tempests would wipe those thors
3.3 second recharge time. They do massive damage to thors and battle cruisers but still aren't that great of a unit.
How do you get so many extra corpses flying around? My sc2 graphics is set to max and it doesn't do that
Somehow I managed to not predict any of the outcomes correctly except the ultra vs. lings one.
So, the answer is "At Least 750". Unless you did it with 751 behind the scenes, of course.
4/5. Forgot how many transfuses full-energy queens can pull off before they die
I had no idea the 16 queens beat make 10 sieged tanks.
More proof that ghosts are just beyond broken
Do... Do ghosts ever lose? Like, I don't play SC2 and have no investment in the meta but I think ghosts may be OP, I don't think I've ever seen them lose.
Huh, I remembered back in the day when an Ultra could only target 1 thing at a time
They still have that weird single swing animation in the editor!
4/5 close. Underestimated queen transfuses
same, but if tanks shoot together and not saprtly tanks win
@@omerovadia487 With micro all of the fights could go the other way.
A Torasque Ultralisk with those stats and Tissue Assimilation would have not taken so much damage, and the Torasuqe part would have not made it seem as close.
I don't think we've seen impalers represented I wanna see some fights with them
2/5
1 - ultra - with 5 armor against lings that can do 1 damage? yeah ultra
ulta - though closer than i thought
2 - stalkers - stalkers can help take the zealots down moreso than immortals. theres 40 of em.
immortals - tbh i think without blink it couldve been different
3 - zerg - i know its bad to bet against marines but its a good composition, both front and back can fire
terran - OK, so yeah my bad
4 - protoss - i mean 12 tempests?? thats a death fleet
terran - OK, so thor has good anti-air
5 - zerg - 16 queens can transfuse
ZERG - HAHAH I GOT 1, HELL YEAH, i mean yeah of course i knew, but goddamn those QUEENS COULD TANK!
The Stalker ragdoll... XD
The last battle would have been closer if you didn’t let the tanks go into siege mode. Not quite enough units clumped to justify splash, and deploying mid fight is never ideal.
4/5 I was thinking “maybe the ultra link gets like 300 Zerglings” then it didn’t die.
0/0 no upgrades on lings side
I thought the tanks and hellbats would win the last one for sure, but the tanks d it didn't seem to do any damage to the queens; they probably did more damage to the hellbats.
How much health did that Ultra have remaining?
What are those numbers under the resources?
Hey, it would be nice to show the unit's hp if theres only one of them in a side
Siege tanks beat pretty much everything at range but the transfuse was too strong.
Wow seems like one more zergling woukd have taken out the ultra
0/0 zerglings die to a state based action for having zero toughness; the fight never happens.
Ugh I wish we knew how much hp exactly was left for that ultra.
Wow I was surprised with the thor bc vs carrier tempest