the ultimate ranking of bad book/shoujo manga tropes - with Fauna
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![Fauna and Cecilia couldn't stop bickering about Twilight [HololiveEn]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/aZJm3WIzpq4/mqdefault.jpg)
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No matter the question the answer is clearly always Vampires lol
There's no evidence that there's no evidence that Vampires do not exist.
@@sim.ulationkoyo You might have a point..
"Hm? That's it? I thought Ceci would have more tropes up her sleeve..."
Ceci: starts unstacking an unending stack of cards to find a more specific version of a trope.
"...oh. Nevermind."
I think there's a trope like this!
Sounds like the bottomless chest trope :D
@@Blex_040 Cecilia ches-
@@Shiro_Usagi-01 That one is definitely not bottomless. In fact, it's very fla... *piano falls on head*
a wonderful combination of two things i love, green vtubers and trashy shoujo romance 💚
This collab really brings out the best of Fauna and Cici's yapping instincts. We need another collab soon. Green Women forever!
We came dangerously close to crossing the yap event horizon today
Green!
Green Onion collab
@@Pelashisoooo chuuni
I agree the green ones plus a certain black and white girl with a hashtag on her hair
We knew Fauna loved vampires but I didn't realize the brainrot went so deep. This stream was so much fun, thank you for organizing it Ceci 💚
After all that, I would for sure say the first green-on-green collab was a rousing success 💚💚
I knew green women collab would be good but this exceeded my expectations big time. Their combined yapping powers were incredible and I was surprised how similar their tastes ended up being. Laughed and smiled the whole way through. One of the best tier list streams ever. Thanks for an amazing stream. 💚💚
Tier lists always feel like a Fauna classic so it was awesome seeing the two green girls of Hololive make an especially unhinged one together! GREEN love💚
Green women collab truly is peak. Definitely belongs in the “I’ll consume just for you” tier.
green woman collab? I CONSUME IT, yummy stream thank you
The stream was YAP YAP YAP spoilers YAP YAP YAP spoilers and I loved every second of it
Fauna is right. The Office would've been so much better if Jim was a vampire.
There was that one episode where he pretended to be to prank Dwight
We finally got THE GREEN collab!
The long awaited green collab was everything I expected!
After watching this stream, I think we can conclude that Fauna really likes vampires Their chemistry as green girls was amazing, I hope we can see more collabs with these two
Timestamps for this stream:
*_[Tropes]_*
17:19 - Secret Heir (You Are Being Judged)
20:17 - Teenage Mafia Boss/Strongest Character (You are being judged)
21:50 - Genius Character (I eat it yummy)
23:26 - Office Romance (I eat it yummy)
28:54 - Bully Romance (It's there)
33:45 - Trusted Person Last Act Villain (It's there)
36:04 - Who did this to you? (I eat it yummy)
37:18 - Grumpy/Sunshine Couple (I eat it yummy)
40:33 - Fake Dating (It's there)
45:00 - Medieval Fantasy Isekai Setting (Awful. Get it out of my face.)
49:14 - Conflict due to poor communication (Awful. Get it out of my face)
50:39 - Hurt Comfort (I eat it yummy)
52:25 - Insta Love (Awful. Get it out of my face)
56:43 - Enemies to Lovers (I'll consume just for you)
59:12 - Past Connection (It's there)
1:02:27 - Corruption Arc (I eat it yummy)
1:03:09 - Love Triangle (Awful. Get it out of my face.)
1:05:22 - Reincarnation/Regression (It's there)
1:06:29 - Mutual Pining (It's there)
01:10:12 - There's only one bed (I eat it yummy)
1:11:30 - Amnesia (You are being judged)
1:15:42 - The Reluctant Hero (It's there)
1:19:16 - Knife to the throat scene (I eat it yummy)
1:24:55 - Chosen One (It's there)
1:30:31 - The Makeover Scene (Awful. Get it out of my face)
1:33:35 - Training Montage (It's there)
1:33:51 - Forced Proximity Romance (I eat it yummy)
1:35:41 - Will They / Won't they (I eat it yummy)
1:39:01 - It's always been you (It's there)
1:41:06 - Main Cast is Elite (You are being judged)
1:44:07 - Redemption Arc (It's there)
1:45:57 - Boarding School/University Setting (It's there)
1:47:59 - Haters to Lovers (I'll consume just for you)
1:52:18 - Heists (It's there)
1:56:12 - Friends to Lovers (It's there)
1:59:55 - Revenge Plot (It's there)
2:02:01 - Tied up POVs (I eat it yummy)
2:05:01 - Slow Burn (I eat it yummy)
2:08:04 - Quest Plot (Unranked)
2:11:04 - Marriage of Convenience (You are being judged)
2:12:24 - Found Family (I eat it yummy)
2:14:07 - One of us is famous (Awful. Get it out of my face)
2:16:02 - Childhood friends to lovers (It's there)
2:16:44 - Academic Rivals to Lovers (It's there)
2:18:03 - Clumsy Love (It's there)
2:21:21 - Dead Character Saves the Day (You are being judged)
2:22:39 - I hate everyone but you (I'll consume just for you)
2:23:30 - Fated Mates (It's there)
2:28:33 - Darkness/Light Power Couple (I eat it yummy)
2:29:30 - Poor/Rich Couple (You are being judged)
2:30:29 - The Mentor (I'll consume just for you)
2:31:56 - Anti-Hero MC (It's there)
2:33:18 - Magical School (I'll consume just for you)
2:35:29 - Hero Loses Powers (It's there)
2:38:03 - Teasing Romance (I'll consume just for you)
2:39:06 - Vampires (FF Tier: Fauna's favorite)
*_[Stream Timestamps]_*
0:46 - Ceci Intro
1:06 - Enter Ceci and Fauna
1:49 - 'It's alright' is holding back...
2:08 ⤷ Ears are bleeding... It's no problem...
2:39 - Spiiiin to win!
2:53 ⤷ Ceci has 2 spin speeds
3:23 ⤷ This is lore. Only real Ceci fans can tell which is which!
3:44 ⤷ Fauna takes the quiz! Right on!
4:00 - Together today as GREEN!
4:34 - Make tierlist of tropes today!
5:03 ⤷ Mid = it's there.
5:33 - Tier naming E: You're being judged!
7:00 - D: Awful. Out of my face!
7:31 ⤷ Swapping D and E tier names...
7:42 - Fauna uses Clip Studio, not Photoshop
8:03 - Ceci's off-center problem with Photoshop
9:28 - Cursor visible!
9:38 - B: I eat it yummy
10:37 - A: I'll consume, just for you
11:18 - Fauna talks about TV Tropes
11:40 ⤷ Holomems TVTropes
12:01 ⤷ Ceci's pitch to guess a member by their trope
12:21 ⤷ Looking at Ceci's TVTropes
12:55 - Fauna asks Ceci about MBTI; Ceci's keep changing
13:12 ⤷ People argue about celebs on them...
13:23 ⤷ Ceci's seen shipping videos... of the personality types!
14:03 ⤷ Fauna's an INFJ!
14:22 ⤷ Ceci's keeps getting ENFP or ENFJ
14:32 ⤷ Ceci's a bit of both an introvert and extrovert
15:10 ⤷ Fauna's an introvert that gets lonely easily
15:21 ⤷ Fauna'd like someone to sit around and be quiet with
15:47 ⤷ Ceci's loneliness levels
16:21 - There's a difference b/w shy and introvert
16:33 ⤷ Ceci gets overwhelmed by huge crowds
17:19 - *_Secret Heir_*
17:44 ⤷ Ceci gives an example from Star Wars
18:36 ⤷ Fauna only likes the trope in otome games if it's the protag
18:50 ⤷ Ceci agrees, doesn't like it when it's revealed at the very end.
19:41 ⤷ Rank: You Are Being Judged
19:47 ⤷ ...Except if it was me!
20:17 - *_Teenage Mafia Boss/Strongest Character_*
20:19 ⤷ Applies to Harry Potter, OPM?
20:59 ⤷ They're like the stuff that should've happened thought in shower
21:34 ⤷ Rank: You are being judged.
21:50 - *_Genius Character_*
21:55 ⤷ Fauna was a big L fan. Ceci liked the sitting pose...
22:38 ⤷ Ceci likes eyebags on character.
22:49 ⤷ Ceci read a book where someone didn't get what photographic memory is.
23:15 ⤷ Rank: I eat it yummy
23:26 - *_Office Romance_*
23:28 ⤷ Fauna can only think of the Office; Ceci's only seen clips
23:42 ⤷ Ceci struggles with cringe comedy
23:56 ⤷ Fauna suggests Nathan For You
24:09 ⤷ Ceci can't watch people messing up handshakes. Physical pain...
25:14 ⤷ Fauna's opinion on the Pam romance
25:55 ⤷ Rereading old shojo manga...
26:43 ⤷ Rank: I eat it yummy
26:50 ⤷ Are there other pairings in The Office?
27:24 ⤷ Everyone's weird.
27:46 ⤷ The show is quintessential millenial humor!
28:45 ⤷ THE Office romance.
28:54 - *_Bully Romance_*
29:05 ⤷ Ceci's not a fan. Likes bickering... but it needs redemption.
29:31 ⤷ Fauna's objection!
30:08 ⤷ They need to be treated like a princess at the end! Nagataro's the other side of it!
30:33 ⤷ You need to be a bit of a maso/sado
30:57 - Does is belong to It's there?
31:29 ⤷ Ceci likes when it's on equal grounds. Feels bad if the person is weak.
31:55 ⤷ Kaichou wa maid-sama is Fauna's favorite example
32:27 ⤷ Fauna likes it when they're being picked on for cute things (teasing)
33:05 ⤷ Rank: It's there
33:45 - *_Trusted Person Last Act Villain_*
34:20 ⤷ Fauna can't think of any examples...
35:07 ⤷ Ceci enjoys when it's foreshadowed and makes sense.
35:46 ⤷ Rank: It's there
36:04 - *_Who did this to you?_*
36:31 ⤷ Both agree; Rank: I eat it yummy
37:18 - *_Grumpy/Sunshine Couple_*
37:59 ⤷ Both like it, Ceci adds that she likes when the girl's the grumpy one.
38:47 ⤷ Rank: I eat it yummy
39:01 ⤷ It's overdone... but it's everything!
39:39 ⤷ It's neat when the grumpy one gets more positive, to the sunshine
40:33 - *_Fake Dating_*
41:14 ⤷ Fauna's first impression of the trope
42:06 ⤷ Ceci gives an example of a webtoon she likes w/ it
42:39 ⤷ Lots of forced proximity...
43:23 ⤷ Ceci talks about The Proposal; KEN!
44:46 ⤷ Rank: It's there
45:00 - *_Medieval Fantasy Isekai Setting_*
45:03 ⤷ Can't read shojo in the last 5 years without it...
45:55 ⤷ Fauna LOVES fantasy. Why's everything isekai?!
46:37 ⤷ Ceci hates when the isekai bits of isekai get usused after the start
47:17 ⤷ This is quantity over quality...
47:58 ⤷ The funny thing about fantasy: Reusing stock images
48:31 ⤷ Rank: Awful. Get it out of my face.
48:54 ⤷ ACTUAL Fantasy have way better worldbuilding
49:14 - *_Conflict due to poor communication_*
49:17 ⤷ Both agree that they hate it.
49:33 ⤷ The frustration...
50:12 ⤷ Rank: Awful. Get it out of my face
50:39 - *_Hurt Comfort_*
51:01 ⤷ Both like angst; it shows how they act together
51:41 ⤷ Fauna talks Ouran High School
52:15 ⤷ Rank: I eat it yummy
52:25 - *_Insta Love_*
52:47 ⤷ It's shallow...
52:59 ⤷ Ceci asks Fauna if she's seen Twilight from Edwards perspective
53:06 ⤷ Fauna read it when it was a leaked PDF
53:18 ⤷ Ceci explains what happened
54:26 ⤷ Ceci asks Fauna to imagine Twilight with a natural romance
55:01 ⤷ Fauna can't imagine it...
56:16 ⤷ Rank: Awful. Get it out of my face
56:28 - Ceci actually loves trash
56:43 - *_Enemies to Lovers_*
56:59 ⤷ This isn't HATING
57:23 - Rank: I'll consume just for you
57:31 ⤷ There has to be a risk of death for this.
57:40 ⤷ Ceci can't think of an example...
58:23 ⤷ Fauna loves vampire x vampire stuff
58:43 ⤷ Ceci likes when they work together to deal with a bigger common enemy / Spy
59:12 - *_Past Connection_*
59:19 ⤷ A fated thing
1:00:07 ⤷ Fauna gives an example of what pgt her/
1:00:23 ⤷ Ceci asks if it's literal fate / Jacob and the baby
1:00:44 ⤷ Mates... Phrasing... Fauna hates it.
1:01:58 - Rank: It's there
1:02:07 ⤷ Ceci likes it when it's used to move the plot on
1:02:27 - *_Corruption Arc_*
1:02:33 ⤷ Rank: I eat it yummy
1:02:51 ⤷ Loves when hero realizes they're on wrong side
1:03:09 - *_Love Triangle_*
1:03:15 ⤷ Fauna gets sad; There's better ways to add tension
1:03:35 ⤷ You ALWAYS know who's first lead.
1:03:57 ⤷ Ceci getting blindsided in another by the second lead winning
1:04:23 ⤷ Fauna talking how the least favorite pairing sometimes is canon
1:04:32 ⤷ Ceci talks about second lead syndrome
1:05:16 ⤷ Rank: Awful. Get it out of my face.
1:05:22 - *_Reincarnation/Regression_*
1:05:22 ⤷ Ceci explains Regression
1:05:56 ⤷ Ceci's opinion is she only likes it when the knowledge gets fully used
1:06:23 - Rank: It's there
1:06:29 - *_Mutual Pining_*
1:06:56 ⤷ It's alright...?
1:07:31 ⤷ It's better with something in between them.
1:07:40 ⤷ Rank: It's there
1:08:15 ⤷ One sided pining where one just doesn't realize it?
1:08:35 ⤷ Talking about one sided, can't admit it
1:08:53 ⤷ Fauna's awfully specific example
1:09:28 ⤷ Ceci enjoys Denial
01:10:12 - *_There's only one bed_*
01:10:22 ⤷ Ceci loves when it makes no sense
1:11:11 ⤷ Rank: I eat it yummy
1:11:30 - *_Amnesia_*
1:11:43 ⤷ Fauna thinks it's lazily used.
1:12:14 ⤷ Ceci talks about Code Geass
1:12:43 ⤷ ENReco is different. It's cinema!
1:13:12 ⤷ Talking about Vampire Knight
1:14:11 ⤷ It's fine if it's at the start; bad later all. Like Witcher...
1:15:29 ⤷ Rank: You are being judged
1:15:42 - *_The Reluctant Hero_*
1:15:54 ⤷ Like Frodo?
1:16:12 ⤷ It's frustrating if they keep whining
1:16:42 ⤷ Ceci talks the Hunger Games
1:17:59 ⤷ Rank: It's there
1:18:24 ⤷ Ceci hasn't seen Eva; Fauna explains watch order, will see Code Geass if Ceci watches Eva
1:19:16 - *_Knife to the throat scene_*
1:19:39 ⤷ Rank: I eat it yummy
1:19:48 ⤷ It can be cringe... but mostly good.
1:20:27 ⤷ Ceci hasn't played BG3; Fauna and Ceci never finished Vampire Knight
1:21:08 ⤷ Ceci explains the ending summary she read
1:23:20 ⤷ Vampire knight was one of the first anime Fauna watched as anime
1:24:18 ⤷ Both sing the OP; Ceci watched the DE dub
1:24:55 - *_Chosen One_*
1:25:27 ⤷ It's very common; can be good.
1:25:59 ⤷ It's fine at the start; dislike it later
1:26:28 ⤷ Cheering for an underdog...
1:27:05 ⤷ It's also good when the Chosen One's not that strong
1:27:43 ⤷ Rank: It's there
1:27:48 ⤷ It's bad in isekai shonen
1:28:15 ⤷ Pikachu in shambles... the chosen one!
1:29:10 ⤷ Ceci's off, Fauna stalls, asks if any ranks were wrong
1:29:52 ⤷ Ceci pops back in
1:30:31 - *_The Makeover Scene_*
1:30:44 ⤷ It's... complicated. / Fauna talks Princess Jellyfish
1:32:13 ⤷ In k-dramas it's an outfit thing
1:32:34 ⤷ Is it only love when both are dressed up?
1:32:54 ⤷ If they only like you after the makeover... No!
1:33:15 ⤷ Rank: Awful. Get it out of my face
1:33:35 - *_Training Montage_*
1:33:42 ⤷ Rank: It's there
1:33:51 - *_Forced Proximity Romance_*
1:34:14 ⤷ Ceci talks about Gakuen Alice
1:34:51 ⤷ Two people settling differences? And then stay? 10/10
1:35:03 ⤷ Rank: I eat it yummy
1:35:41 - *_Will They / Won't they_*
1:36:00 ⤷ If it's tsundere, yes.
1:36:12 ⤷ Otherwise... Ceci OBJECTION!
1:36:19 ⤷ Ever read one that they WON'T?
1:36:21 ⤷ Isn't Ouran like that?
1:37:09 ⤷ Spy x Family's like this.
1:37:23 ⤷ All romance is like this?
1:37:49 ⤷ 2016 movie... Pacific Rim!
1:38:42 ⤷ Rank: I eat it yummy
1:39:01 - *_It's always been you_*
1:39:06 ⤷ Is this... the mates one?
1:39:31 ⤷ This is childhood friends who didn't see it that way till later
1:40:19 - Rank: It's there
1:41:06 - *_Main Cast is Elite_*
1:41:18 ⤷ No underdogs
1:41:35 ⤷ The Boys... if it wasn't like The Boys
1:42:41 ⤷ Vampire Knight but only purebloods
1:43:11 ⤷ You need contrast!
1:43:44 ⤷ Rank: You are being judged
1:44:07 - *_Redemption Arc_*
1:44:25 ⤷ Fauna on Zuko
1:45:13 ⤷ Fauna's conflicted, Homura's a favorite
1:45:48 ⤷ Rank: It's there
1:45:57 - *_Boarding School/University Setting_*
1:46:02 ⤷ If it's a vampire academy...
1:46:31 ⤷ They should add vampires...
1:46:56 ⤷ It's an easy setting.
1:47:56 ⤷ Rank: It's there
1:47:59 - *_Haters to Lovers_*
1:48:18 ⤷ Ceci loves it ALL. Bickering is fun!
1:48:37 ⤷ Bicker vs B00li
1:49:15 ⤷ Pinned to wall? B00li.
1:50:01 - Ceci Working... / Kamisama Kiss singing
1:50:47 ⤷ Adding Teasing Romance
1:51:33 ⤷ Rank: I'll consume just for you
1:51:46 ⤷ Taking about enemies vs haters diffference
1:52:18 - *_Heists_*
1:52:34 ⤷ Finding a team, executing it
1:53:05 ⤷ Ceci asking Fauna to sell National Treasure to her
1:53:38 ⤷ Fauna's confused... / 6 of Crows
1:54:30 ⤷ Fauna's reading One Dark Window
1:55:34 ⤷ Rank: It's there
1:56:01 - Speen to win? That's Ceci's line!
1:56:12 - *_Friends to Lovers_*
1:56:28 ⤷ This is... Vanilla.
1:57:17 ⤷ Dynamic has to carry a lot.
1:57:51 ⤷ Rank: It's there
1:58:36 ⤷ Thinking of anime examples...
1:59:00 ⤷ Fauna's coming around to the Rat in Fruits Basket / Momzoned
1:59:55 - *_Revenge Plot_*
2:00:29 ⤷ Fauna'd like it in a yandere thing; pure revenge
2:01:04 ⤷ Works only in fantasy... not so much contemporary
2:01:36 ⤷ Rank: It's there
2:02:01 - *_Tied up POVs_*
2:02:08 ⤷ Rope...?
2:02:30 ⤷ They start to grow tied to each other
2:02:53 ⤷ Fauna talks about Odd Taxi
2:03:33 ⤷ Ceci talks Resident Evil 6, campaign overlap
2:04:47 ⤷ Rank: I eat it yummy
2:05:01 - *_Slow Burn_*
2:05:12 ⤷ Lots of shojo is like this.
2:05:37 ⤷ Fauna likes the before they get together
2:06:09 ⤷ Fauna's problem with Skyrim romances
2:07:27 ⤷ General idea is good, leads to pining
2:07:42 ⤷ The climax can be very satisfying if done right
2:07:52 - Rank: I eat it yummy
2:08:04 - *_Quest Plot_*
2:08:26 ⤷ LOTR talk
2:08:49 ⤷ Fauna asks for clarification
2:09:03 ⤷ Ceci explains how the plot is centered around a singular quest
2:09:38 ⤷ Frieren counts!
2:10:20 ⤷ What ISN'T a quest plot? / Unranking it
2:11:04 - *_Marriage of Convenience_*
2:11:08 ⤷ Kinda like fake dating
2:11:25 ⤷ Fauna likes if there's an arranged marriage and they defy it
2:11:54 ⤷ It's a cheap plot device...
2:12:22 ⤷ Rank: You are being judged
2:12:24 - *_Found Family_*
2:12:30 ⤷ It's comfy!
2:12:45 ⤷ Sometimes it's better than the romance
2:13:01 ⤷ Ceci's favorite examples
2:13:54 ⤷ Rank: I eat it yummy
2:14:07 - *_One of us is famous_*
2:14:13 ⤷ This was everything from 2006-2016; Most One Direction fics
2:14:36 ⤷ What's the difference between them?!
2:15:03 ⤷ Being treated as normal is the main reason for them liking them
2:15:27 ⤷ What is she? A peanut allergy?!
2:15:40 ⤷ Rank: Awful. Get it out of my face
2:16:02 - *_Childhood friends to lovers_*
2:16:09 ⤷ It's whatever... Can be nice to see since they usually lose
2:16:41 ⤷ Rank: It's there
2:16:44 - *_Academic Rivals to Lovers_*
2:16:49 ⤷ The rivalry is fun!
2:17:23 ⤷ Light and L...
2:18:00 ⤷ Rank: It's there
2:18:03 - *_Clumsy Love_*
2:18:16 ⤷ Examples... Jesse and James?
2:19:04 ⤷ Do they ever succeed?
2:19:32 ⤷ Ceci talks about a webtoon
2:19:57 ⤷ Fauna realizes all her favorites are teasing/hating the other
2:20:43 ⤷ Fauna's heart... cold and dead.
2:21:12 ⤷ Rank: It's there
2:21:21 - *_Dead Character Saves the Day_*
2:21:27 ⤷ Assumed death, like Gandalf!
2:21:59 ⤷ Worst when it's a copout
2:22:29 ⤷ Rank: You are being judged
2:22:39 - *_I hate everyone but you_*
2:22:45 ⤷ Rank: I'll consume just for you
2:22:55 ⤷ Has to be HATE in contemporary
2:23:30 - *_Fated Mates_*
2:23:38 ⤷ Fauna doesn't remember this... Dislikes the name, likes it
2:23:57 ⤷ Ceci Objection! Dislikes it because no agency.
2:24:50 ⤷ Fauna's rebuttal
2:25:19 ⤷ Could Bella be like anyone else?
2:25:49 ⤷ Fauna's objection! Anyone can self insert!
2:26:14 ⤷ No matter your flaws, Edward would love you!
2:26:53 ⤷ Ceci's ideal situation for the writing
2:27:59 ⤷ Agreeing to disagree / Rank: It's there
2:28:33 - *_Darkness/Light Power Couple_*
2:28:51 ⤷ Yin/Yang, opposites attract
2:29:06 ⤷ It's gotten too prevalent...
2:29:24 ⤷ Rank: I eat it yummy
2:29:30 - *_Poor/Rich Couple_*
2:29:33 ⤷ Peak k-drama...
2:29:53 ⤷ It's overdone.
2:30:26 ⤷ Rank: You are being judged
2:30:29 - *_The Mentor_*
2:30:36 ⤷ Iroh!
2:30:58 ⤷ It's rarely done badly. Better if they're a little flawed too
2:31:33 ⤷ Rank: I'll consume just for you
2:31:56 - *_Anti-Hero MC_*
2:32:06 ⤷ It can be cool...
2:32:27 ⤷ What's an anti-hero?
2:33:05 ⤷ Rank: It's there
2:33:18 - *_Magical School_*
2:33:33 ⤷ Ceci tallks about Gakuen Alice
2:34:16 ⤷ It can be like Witch Hat Atlier, group learning too
2:34:31 ⤷ Rank: I'll consume just for you
2:34:35 ⤷ Vampire School? Magical School!
2:35:29 - *_Hero Loses Powers_*
2:35:39 ⤷ MHA was the opposite, so it's not really...
2:36:27 ⤷ Video game arcs with them...
2:36:38 ⤷ Fauna talks about Okami
2:37:18 ⤷ Sacrifices are good. Or if they want to live a normal life!
2:37:52 ⤷ Rank: It's there
2:38:03 - *_Teasing Romance_*
2:38:11 ⤷ Fauna consumed EVERYTHING with it
2:38:44 ⤷ Teasing each other is cute too.
2:38:56 ⤷ Rank: I'll consume just for you
2:39:06 - *_Vampires_*
2:39:13 ⤷ Needs its own tier.
2:39:54 ⤷ FF Tier: Fauna's favorite!
2:40:22 ⤷ Freaking Fabulous, Fantastic Fauna, Final Fauna?
2:40:34 ⤷ Ceci likes them... but that much?
2:40:42 ⤷ Fauna's Objection!
2:40:47 ⤷ All the highest tiers combine in the vampire trope!
2:41:50 ⤷ Ceci'll concede
2:42:07 ⤷ Tierlist complete.
2:42:17 ⤷ Fauna's happy with it. Mostly agreed on!
2:42:53 ⤷ Maidens hearts...
2:43:57 A Court of Thrones and Roses... Ceci's tirade
2:45:59 ⤷ Just start at Book 2. Get rid of the Love Triangle...
2:46:58 ⤷ Imagine if they fell for each other naturally!
2:47:48 ⤷ Breakup should've been handled different.
2:48:29 ⤷ The gauntlet... a riddle to get out was SO EASY!
2:49:13 ⤷ The genre jump...
2:50:30 ⤷ Thanks for yapping!
2:50:49 ⤷ Bye!
@@DLan8 arigato
Luv green women. Simple as. 💚
Amazing stream. Fauna activating every time vampires or yandere stuff came up, Cece bringing the salt for the bad tropes, and all the rants and yaps from both like the ACOTAR ones at the end were incredible. Also shoutout to chat like "how about some yuri tropes!!!" the whole time I feel that 💖
I hope we get more green collabs!! 💚💚
This might be my most favourite collab stream this year. I was giggling like an anime school girl listening to this on the train ride back from work. Stress instantly gone!
I was smirking nonstop mid work 😂
I have to watch the first 1/2 as a VOD, but managed to catch the second 1/2 live, and absolutely loved it. I need more of these Green Tea Gremlins 💚
Thanks Cecilia and Fauna for the GREEN collab!
Thanks for the stream, Cecilia and Fauna! Your chemistry together is non-stop fun! Green lady power! 💚
Overall, a respectable list you've made together. I feel like there should be a sequel stream where you two try to write some fiction that fulfills all your favorite tropes!
Wow green ladies can really yap for many hours 💚
What a great collab thanks CC and Fauna
Man I Love Green Woman
MILGW
sapling here!
Love the yapping of the green ladies
This was a hilarious idea, thank you for putting this together and inviting Fauna for a GREEN collab! 💚💚
green to green communication.
full of intelligent and nuanced yapping.
Green together strong! 💚
I think at some point Fauna has to tell us just exactly why she loves vampires so much.😂
Thanks for the fun stream today!
Tags for this stream:
07:20 Fauna amazed by CC's chart rearrangement skills
10:21 CC finishes the tier descriptions
14:01 CC the first extrovert in Hololive
19:53 Trope: Teenage Mafia Boss / Strongest character
21:29 Trope: Genious character
22:23 CC likes eyebacks on characters
23:03 Trope: office romance
23:31 Fauna likes cringe comedy
28:28 Trope: Bully romance
33:31 Trope: trusted person was actually a villian
35:43 Trope: Who did this to you?
36:57 Trope: Grumpy / Sunshine couple
40:05 Trope: fake dating
45:14 Trope: Isekai
48:58 Trope: conflict due to poor communication
50:18 Trope: Hurt comforting
52:46 Trope: Insta love
56:21 Trope: Enemies to lovers
58:54 Trope: Past connection
1:02:07 Trope: Hero corruption
1:02:46 Trope: Love triangle
1:05:21 Trope: reincarnation
1:06:20 Trope: mutual pining
1:09:55 Trope: There's only one bed!
1:11:05 Trope: Amnesia
1:15:18 Trope: The reluctant Hero
1:18:52 Trope: Knife to the throat scene
1:24:33 Trope: chosen one
1:30:22 Trope: the makeover scene
1:33:53 Trope: forced proximity romance
1:35:23 Trope: Will they / won't they
1:38:42 Trope: It's always been you!
1:40:49 Trope: Main cast is "elite"
1:43:47 Trope: redemption arc
1:45:41 Trope: Boarding school / university setting
1:47:41 Trope: Haters to lovers
1:52:01 Trope: Heists (thieves)
1:55:57 Trope: Friends to lovers
1:59:27 Trope: revenge plot
2:01:38 Trope: Tied up POVs
2:04:37 Trope: Slow burn
2:07:36 Trope: Quest Plot
2:10:42 Trope: Marriage of convenience
2:12:00 Trope: Found family
2:13:39 Trope: One of us is famous!
2:15:44 Trope: Childhood friends to lovers
2:16:27 Trope: Academic rivals to lovers
2:17:41 Trope: Clumsy love
2:21:04 Trope: Dead character saves the day
2:22:18 Trope: I hate everyone but you
2:23:10 Trope: Fated mates
2:28:13 Trope: Darkness / Light Powercouple
2:29:10 Trope: Poor / Rich couple
2:30:11 Trope: The Mentor
2:31:39 Trope: Anti Hero MC
2:32:53 Trope: Magical School
2:35:09 Trope: Hero looses powers
2:37:38 Trope: Teasing romance
2:38:41 Trope: Vampires
wow, thanks 👍
Thanks. The vampire brain rot runs deep. Haven't heard vampire love this strong since nerrisa played Baludr's Gate 3
Thx man, really appreciated as a vod enjoyer
2:43:51 Spicy Book Talk! A Court of Thorns and Roses
OF ALL THINGS YOU DIDNT LINK THE STREAM START TIME
I had hoped CC and Fauna would do a collab sometime. Their chemistry was even better than expected. CC is proof that the special sauce that Hololive has been needing to top their amazing cast of EN comedians is a couple of fun good-natured extroverts.
I think Biboo is another great example of just how good it has been for the EN branch to debut new, easy-going, sociable talents who actively seek out and enjoy collabing with others. Both Justice and Advent have not only been great gens in and of themselves, they have helped breath new life into some of the older gens.
We've seen so many new and innovative collabs since the debut of these new gens.
Greenest collab of 2024! I loved it when Fauna and Ceci yapped and Ceci was left wheezing it was a delight to hear such joy from you two. I think you two really hit it off, I dare say. Gimme more!
What a fantastic Collab, it was funny watching CC and Otomos reaction to Fauna love for vampires 😂 also, thanks CC for making the tier list.
This, too, is Vampire Knight (somehow)
Joking, was a fun collab! Glad to have a set of green ladies with very similar thoughts on tropes like these
A nice well-rounded tier list! Might need to add vampires to each trope to get a true representation however.
Thanks both for the great yapping!
I personally read material with maybe half of the tropes, but oh boy was that an enjoyable watch! I know both of you like to talk on your own, but somehow here you multiplied together instead of being additive! So good!
Thanks for the stream today Cici! This collab was really fun and somewhat unhinged in the best ways possible, hope you do more GREEN collabs in the future this really was great 💚💚💚 (the middle heart is for fauna)
When Fauna said in the Host Club collab' that her type was the kind of person who works break her heart into pieces and stomp it into the ground she really wasn't lying.
Green Ladies yapping about the silliest stuff imaginable? That's S-tier, we eat it up, yumyumyum.
(It was increasingly funny how Fauna went from "Vampire Knight was pretty good," to "MY LIFE IS VAMPIRE KNIGHT!" the longer the conversation went on).
I could listen to Ceci and Fauna yap about anything for an unholy amount of time. This was really fun, thank-you!
As an Isekai fan I feel strongly and personally attacked after this Stream
The two reveals of the endless trope card stacks caught me off guard something fierce... Peak yapping stream.
Women ☕
(and as someone raised by shoujo manga, I might not share 100% of their taste but I entirely knew where they came from. I thoroughly enjoy this collab because of this. It's like looking back to my childhood.)
Thanks for the yapping you two!
I love me some yapping green ladies 💚
This was the perfect first 1-on-1 collab for you two lol
Guys, I think I know what Fauna's halloween costume is gonna be.
Sexy. Vampire.
I've been waiting to see the 2 cute lovely green Rangers of Hololive english popping off together and this is already cute. We got a green ranger who's in automation and we got another green ranger who is mommy nature. Time for cute sweet energy with Cecilia and fauna!
I must consume more collabs like this! The green ladies collab was both dangerous and healthy for me. Thank you for today!
So the ideal setting is "Vampire Hunter C" : a grumpy vampire and a genius vampire hunter are stuck together in the same bed of a motel room that they had to rent for the night. The vampire hunter puts a knife to the throat of the vampire, but they stare at each other for a very long time and then something happens. They realize that they're both misanthropes and that the only thing they live for is this hunt for each other. So after a moment that feels like eternity, they end up kissing passionately, even if one of them smells really bad and the other one wears cringe pants, because what matters is not appearance but the inside of a person.
Objection ! Knowing CC's tastes, I find this tier list to be severely lacking in the zombie department. No "Zombies to lovers", no "Secret zombie", not even "Only one of us is a zombie" ? Yes maybe they're not tropes, but they should be !
Thanks for the green collab! I consume it
The giggles, the noises, the vibes, and the discussion was incredibly fun.
Green collab is peak.💚💚
Thank you both for the stream!
What an incredible stream! I only caught the second half of it but I’m glad I was there. I loved this. Please more literary streams!!
Very fun stream, especially enjoyed them arguing over "fated mates". Even though I'm a Sapling, I'm afraid I have to agree with Cecilia on that one.
Proof that the yapping green woman is the true best trope
This needs to be a series 🙏 More Green tier list in the future 💚💚
They work really good together..
Greatest hater meets greatest believer.
Professional yappers.
Unstoppable force meets immovable object 😂
ngl I was completely blindsided by the depth of fauna's vampire brainrot
i love it
Cc and Fauna 90% laughing and 10% discussion and i love it 💚💚
I relate to having trouble watching cringe comedy. If you end up watching The Office, Cecilia, know that the first season is pretty tough to get through, but I think it's worth it. It's only six episodes, and you get rewarded with a really wholesome, human, and funny story. 💚 Thanks for the awesome collab!
You should genuinely give Nathan 4 You a watch because it's cringe comedy to its highest extent. I struggle with it too, but I won't lie. It was fun putting my hands over my eyes and nervously laughing.
@cyb0nics I'll check it out, thank you!
Thanks for the stream you two! This was so much fun. The back and forth was amazing, I hope we can have more collabs between you two.
Thank you Cecilia and Fauna for the green collab! 💚
I missed the live but I am psyched to see our first direct GREEN LADIES collab!
They shoudl cover romance books next. All the hot takes involved romance and vampire romance
green collab peak collab, this was so much fun! your insights and discussions were so nice to listen to, you synergize so well together, this was everything i hoped it would be and even better 💚💚💚💚
Da Greens Yapper is now my new favorite podcast
My two green holo oshis collabing and yapping for 3 hours... truly the most blessed of days... ALL IN ON GREEN 💚
Truly the greenest stream of all time
Amazing collab, the banter was great! As expected, the green synergy is off the charts!
The first time I watched the stream fully from start to the end without looking at other things. It's just so fun to hear you yap together with fauna 💚
"It's so bad we don't recycle.", I love this woman! kkkkk
Fauna and I are the same IMBT personality type???
Man, I love Fauna...
Thanks for the yapping stream with Fauna, Ceci! It was a lot of fun listening to you while working a bit!
This was an awesome stream. I love to see two people hit it off like this.
My favourite green ladies!
"There's only one bed" is a test of character.
Epic Yap Battle: Mother Nature VS Industrial Revolution who will win
y'all are my favorites and seeing you both yap about shojo/story tropes in general was so great 💚 love y'all, hope you do another collab soon
Thank you for the stream, green ladies 💚💚
There were certainly some interesting discussions had here
"I haven't watched it but I watched a 1 hour video essay about it". Marry me Ceci
This really brings me back to my shojou anime/manga phase. Thanks for the stream.
This was a really nice collab. You two really resonate off each other. Thanks for putting this together!💚
God this stream was so peak, absolutely amazing chemistry between these two.
Green women sure can talk. Thank you for a great collab!
Thank you for the fun collab stream Cecilia and Fauna!
''What do you think of this trope?'' ''Does it have vampires?''
is the fairy book that Ceci is talking about Emily Wilde's Encyclopaedia of Faeries because that is PEAK banter
0:46 the beginning of the stream
There are a lot of things to say about the tropes and all, but none of that matters really, since you haven't watched OddTaxi. You gotta watch it (and perhaps, maybe do it as a members watchalog)
It was a fun, green Yapping stream.
Just like you two like the romances with hate, enemies etc most, I liked the bits where you two argued most. It's truly great to see my favourite holomems collabing! Green sweep!
GREENEST stream of all time?
God this discussion made me realize that I really love when one lead is trying to understand love, and the 2nd lead walks them through it
I could listen to these two all day
Absolute peak yappa stream this was. Based opinions across the board with the exception of the Anti-hero MC one, heroic actions through unsavory methods is a great set up for an engaging character and I consume that hard The rants were amazing all around, seeing people get so passionate about trope stuff like this is so funny I wouldn't mind seeing more of you and Fauna together, you both vibe really well tbh Thank you for the stream, Cece
Waiting for the day for more of these podcast-esque streams
Very fun stream! I loved hearing these two green girls talk and seeing other girls like Nerissa appears in the chat to chime in on these tropes. I'd love to see this again with other members.
Almost 3 hours of Yapping..
SWEET NOURISHMENT
This stream had strong NorthernLion aesthetic. Fauna should be proud.
This stream finally answered the question what's better than one green woman
Could listen to these 2 chat about anything and everything. Quite an educational stream, feel like we've all learnt a lot today.
Thanks for the stream.
This is a dream come true. I loved the interactions between this green ladies in EN Reco, glad to see them collab again
Man I love giggly, goofy, green ladies 💚💚
Finally a list I can agree with! 💚
Petition for Fauna and CC to do a book club. Their commentary on these books' plot is superb!