The Mark Steyn Show: Douglas Murray on identity and politics
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- In this return visit to The Mark Steyn Show, Douglas Murray - international bestselling author of The Strange Death of Europe - talks about his latest book The Madness of Crowds: Gender, Race and Identity.
Douglas takes questions from not only Mark but also an invited audience of Steyn Club members on some of the internal contradictions of the rainbow coalition. The abolition of the sexes is a profound challenge, not only to "conservatives" or "the right" but also to feminists and gays and other hitherto favored categories of the left.
This edition of The Mark Steyn Show was recorded before a live audience from the United States, Canada and elsewhere, gathered together in Montreal.
The Mark Steyn Show acknowledges the support of members of The Mark Steyn Club. For more on the club, please go to www.steynonlin...
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Have followed Mark Steyn and Douglas Murray for years. They're both brilliant.
Mark Steyns the sh**
Love that guy has a unique way of telling a story
Two fantastic thinkers who both articulate their points well while being entertaining
As Dennis Miller said...one of the smartest cats there is. That Murray fellow is pretty smart too.
Not so sure about Steyn, he's a film critic.
He’s more than that. Check out his books.
"We're creating men that the women don't want and we're creating women who can't find men" Now there's a new quote for my journal of quotes, cheers Douglas, that a beauty
True, though the fact that we're creating women that *men* don't want is even more of an indictment.
a journal of quotes! Brilliant idea
More like creating hostile arrogant deluded hateful awful women.
We're also creating men that don't want women. MGTOW. Sadly, that wasn't brought up.
Douglas Murray, another Wise man for 2019.
When I was a kid growing up in the late 80's early 90's I thought the big society-wide conversations we'd be having in 30 years time would be stuff like space exploration, colonising Mars etc. not women having their bollocks waxed :(
Yes, its unbelievable and gut wrenching, but more than this it's scary.
Bran the Broker Elon is trying. But you are correct
Bran the Broker I nearly broke mine laughing at your comment 😂😂😂😂😂😂 you’ve got to laugh.
Hahahaha...It's rather embarrassing.
I'm with you. I truly despair and am grateful on some level that I never had children.
*I would be overjoyed if all the people involved in pushing this stuff on children were sued into oblivion in the coming years*
*They deserve life in prison imo*
Yes I have kids an this stuff worries my wife and I. I just want my kids to be kids and be happy.
Allah u Akbar, Enjoy. . you'll get the paradise that children of Allah are getting day by day.... your children might enjoy... multiculturalism? or multi Islamism? all the cacca they creat in Syria, India,Philippins,Lybia,Yemen, Malmo, Manchester, Sudan, Gaza ..... you deserve them folk... enjoy them
B. Because if I have understood you do not approve Murray....
Mr RABC1
Its already started lets hope it gets bigger and bigger
"We must hold onto truthfulness at the expense of politics". ~ Douglas Murray
Fantastic interview. I never get tired of listening to Murray speak on these issues.
Mark Steyn. One of my favorite people.
Thank you. I'd much rather listen to the two of you than the impeachment garbage.
Two legends, wonderful stuff. Our Sherpas through the blizzard of Identity Politics
Steyn and Murray, who could ask for more?
Well put David .
The left have marched through all our institutions and the private sector. They have denigrated Christianity but not Islam they have denigrated the traditional family, they are pushing the LGBTQ whatever Agenda. This will not end well. Wake up people fight back.
When the sexuality was on questionnaires I had I put MYOB.
Pretty much summarised mandatory required to be able to produce any show on the BBC.
I answered N/A. I've had the question asked on job applications, as in , "SEX." Answer? "NEVER."
@WhyOWhy
😅😊😉😆😄
And The Right has sold them all to their mates.
I've been watching each Douglas Murray I've come across on RUclips as time permits. When time doesn't permit it, I make time. 😉 Brilliant interview and awesome audience.
Loved the author-read audio book. I can't get enough of this brainy British author and his well-modulated voice. Highly recommended.
Somebody talking sense in solitary audio for hours? And it being Douglas? I'm buying!
Ms. de Bourgh of Rosings yes!!! He became a favorite of mine! Right along with Jordan Peterson, Thomas Howell and Milton Friedman! All so refreshing!
I have become addicted to Douglas Murray.
Douglas Murray, beloved, erudite speaker of truth and defender of the Enlightenment 🌹
That's funny. The enlightenment that rendered God dead. Enlightenment! Ha ha ha haa
Douglas Murray rocks wish I could meet him some time to shake his hand and say how much I respect him.
I like Douglas - always speaks his mind, and what most of us 'normal people' think.
Douglas is Britain's national treasure!
My two favourite intellectuals, what a treat!
“Haters gonna hate.....” Douglas cracks himself up. I love it.I could listen to these two guys all day. And sometimes I do!
Man this was funny as hell... Intellectual conversation at a fine level, with great humour to boot. Keep trucking on, Douglas!
Douglas Murray and Mark Steyn. What a wonderful team they are. Both of them are awesome, but when they are together, it's espectacular. You have to do this more often.
Mark - 'Posie Parker' is a *must* interview. Amazingly, she's still on RUclips though banished from Facebook and Twitter. She's great. Absolutely fearless, or, to use current parlance, 'no f*cks given'.
I deliciously rich platter served up with equal measures of humour and common sense. Thank you.
Two exceptional, intelligent, reasonable minds ....could listen to them all day
Were he not gay, "they" would have completely shut Murray up by now. "They" try...but he's got just enough insulation to stay visible. That, plus being correct and brilliant.
The British SPECTATOR columnist, Rod Liddle, describes the mental contortions in which SJWs are indulging themselves over 'The Trans Issue' as us having reached "peak wank!" Need any more be said, or written? "A deficit of mature adults!" I would only wish to add 'courageous' to that description of what our society is lacking. Take the bishops of Episcopalian churches all around the World (including Roman Catholicism): not one of them has the courage to call out ISLAM for theological, or humanitarian reasons. They treat Islam as though it were as fluffy and irrelevant as the Church of England has become (or the Roman Church in Ireland!). And these people CLAIM to have been 'called' by the Almighty Himself, to their positions. I think not! We have 'career-clerics' just as we have 'career-politicians'; with not a backbone between them......whether male, or female!
Perfectly said !! - saves me trying to find the words. ta mate
The problem with Bishops speaking publicly on Islam is the reaction; murder, bombs in churches and the on going persecution of Christians in the middle east.
There are Christian-Islamic discussion's going on all the time and all over the world but the wilder fringes are not interested in talk.
Indeed in some countries priests have to carry a weapon for their own protection...
Douglas Murray and Mark Steyn. Pure class and thank you!
Loved the playful banter and all the laughter, very entertaining. Thanks from Colorado.
14:17 "because we think that we should hold on to truthfulness, even at the expense of political gain"
That sums up succinctly why as someone who voted to remain in the Brexit referendum, I am now a firm leave without a deal supporter.
Same, and I think there may be many more like us
I would sit and listen to these two for hours! I love them, even though alot of what they say goes over my head, I would still sit for hours listening to them! Douglas Murray and Mark are brilliant as well as a hoot!
My two favourite interlocutors together. Made my day. Thanks Mark, thanks Douglas.
No matter what medium I see Douglas being interviewed I never want the interview to end. Just a remarkable mind of our times.
I've read both of Douglas Murray's books, and both of them are absolutely wonderful and well worth the investment of time. He is so smart and writes so well that he's a pure pleasure to read.
On the Cuban health system: I know a Cuban radiologist who immigrated a few years ago. He has many horror stories about their hospitals. Including the fact that many surgical instruments were reused without being sanitized.
This is true, a Cuban friend of mine who is also around 40 was infected with hepatitis from a vaccine she was given as a child and had to have a cesarean where they took the baby out in the sac and then punctured it to avoid the baby also being infected. It's criminal.
Two absolutely brilliant men, a pleasure to listen to and a pleasure to watch this video, for the upteenth time!
I could listen to these 2 guys for many hours. Absolutely brilliant!
Douglas Murray, intellectually, is head and shoulders above any of the pathetic public figures and politicians. They should learn to recognise their superior.
Julia A exactly.
He is a self described neo con which confuses me. He doesn’t appear to be a money grubbing globalist that thinks regime change wars are solid foreign policy 🤷♂️
He's a an idiot's idea of what an intellectual is. Like most people on *either* side of the argument, he's a polemicist who's in it for the money. They make their living by stirring up trouble and getting people like you to buy their books.
Mark Steyn and Douglas Murray! Two thumbs up before I even listened!
This was/is a really OUTSTANDING conversation. I love both these men, wonderful energy together, too.
Two great minds in one room. Outstanding
As geneticist I can say, categorically, being a boy is normal and should be nurtured...
As a mother of two boys, I can say categorically, you are correct.+
The whole continent would benefit from listening in on this conversation.
Thank you for being brave enough to speak common sense and the truth.
TripleThreatRC the whole world even
Here we have 2 "little boys" saying that the intersectionality emperor has no clothes on. Keep it up Douglas and Mark.
I’m self employed (40 years)... I have seen it coming for a decade. There are two sorts of people: those who call me names and those who tell me I’m paranoid. Hmmm...
Usually the same people... 🤔
Terrific discussion! Thanks Mark & Douglas for bringing such important issues to the forefront & arming us with sensible, logical arguments to use in our own spheres of influence. I appreciate the wisdom & humour you both bring to such "sacred" topics.
A most enjoyable one hour and six minutes listening to the brilliant intellects of our time of Mark Steyn & Douglas Murray!
I could listen to Douglas Murray all day long. Hope he comes out west!
Gripping, genuinely gripping. A thoroughly great interview, where the interviewee was allowed and gently encourage to convey the crux of his arguments unhindered.
I just looked up "intellectually honest" in the dictionary and wasn't surprised to find a photo of Douglas as the illustrative example.
Kon Berner wish I had the same dictionary sounds like a good one.
"there's something very sick in this"... Nail on head for possibly most of the current and emerging social issues of our times.
The man who wrote the book "The *Strange* Death Of Europe" considers that the enlightenment is the thing that must be preserved at all costs. Fitting.
My two favorite truth speakers together. OMG! Such fun and so important for the masses to hear and comprehend. They won't of course. May God bless you both.
Douglas for President. Of everything.
Brilliant and honest discussion. I thank you.
Absolutely brilliant. Hilarious, thought-provoking, cathartic, even life-affirming.
Two funny, brave, and brilliant men!
YES, when are we going to put adults back in charge again....
Finally ,the adults.
Thank you for articulating the issues and problems so clearly. Please do a follow up on how we can turn the tide on this insanity.
39:42 He nailed it so hard. We're creating man that the woman don't want and we are creating woman who can't find man... Story of my life right there!
Great show! Mark gets his interviewee talking, and his interviewee is eloquent !
Mark and Douglas, together again, spoiling us with their charm, brilliancy and wit. 💖
Been waiting patiently for another Mark video. Thanks.
We’re just discussing the exact processes Yuri Bezmenov described in 1984.
Well said. We desperately need a return of adults in all conversations.
It's hard to imagine two more brilliant thinkers and courageous voices... keep it up gentleman you're both my heroes
Oh yeah and the brilliant brilliant humor of both of them is icing on the cake
To quote captain picard ... "there are TWO genders!"
Two sexes. Gender is a linguistic term.
@@flat5sharp11Never Heard that there is a scientific name and a common name. Sociology folks need to be taught nomenclature.
@@coolbuddyshivam My hypothesis is that using "gender" in place of "sex" is mainly an American thing and has come about because Americans are so Puritanical that they think "sex" is a rude word. In any case, it has caused no end of problems. Just refer to sex as "sex", and stop the insanity.
In case you wonder HOW the trans movement got legislation through so quickly read James Kirkups article in the spectator which quotes from a 165 pg Document commissioned from Denton’s international solicitors telling trans activists exactly how to achieve this, from a legal perspective. It is not by accident but with expensive legal advice that the trans movement had influenced key legislation . I will try to post a link.
We all know the answer to that
@How Did You Know
It came from some NGO funded by G. $oro$
This was delightful, despite the subject matter. Wonderful and important stuff Mark and Douglas!
I just can’t get enough of his sharp wits
And feminists never addressed motherhood ....what a moment of truth can make a difference in your life thank you Douglas .🦋
Such an excellent and entertaining discourse on the very serious issues plaguing our societies at the moment.
Funny brilliant loved it! Douglas Murray and the interviewer. We’re perfect!
Whom the Gods seek to destroy they first drive insane,that says it all .
We don't lack adults, never have, we lack people with courage. People are afraid to speak out, there's a reason we have such a thing as the "silent majority" but sadly cultural shifts, especially in today's social media driven culture, the silent truly are just that.
What a pleasure to listen to you two.
This could have played on network TV 40 years ago and no one would have batted an eye.
What a theme tune, what great guys, love it.
How on earth was Douglas Murray in Montreal and I didn’t know?? I missed him!! 😍😞
Damn, Mark! Watching Douglas alone is a treat, but your intro sequence is very cool!
Yes! Been waiting for these 2 to have another "sit down" since Douglas was on for SDOE!
Great conversation and great questions from the audience. Well done, really well done. We need more of this.
These guys. They're the real deal. Love them both.
Yay my favourites! Happy Christmas when it comes!
What a fantastic opening Theme and animation. Great job.
Thank you so much.
Any woman who has seen her husband entised away from his home and his children knows the power of women.
There are plenty of women lured away in the same manner, what impresses me the most is the power of woman tears to sway favourable outcomes in divorce, crime, social services..no man comes close in this department.
What does it mean to be entised away from home?
That’s a horrible misuse of power.
Enticed...
BRIANMORAN that’s how I ended up stuck with my narc mother instead of my Dad.
FANTASTIC discussion! Quite enjoyable and informative. It gives me some optimism to hear this. Thank you!
This was absolutely splendid!
Douglas Murray has a beautiful voice and is very witty.
Douglas laughing a proper belly laugh .. fantastic to see.
Great discussion also.
Two powerful intellectuals.
Thank you.
Why is this not available on MSM ?
Mmm I wonder.
Murray seems to get sexier the older he gets.
Wow I love his book...
Great discussion. A lot of topics. Excellent.
I think this was my favourite from Douggies new book interview tour. Good chaps here both.
The bar backdrop is awesome for a talk show.
I click every show for the intro. I stay for the guests.
Douglas, among others are so important right now. It's become very salient in recent weeks.
Brilliant As Per! Great Show!
BRAVO, GENTLEMEN! A truly splendid exchange......a breath of sanity, and a cautionary finger, against the monstrous tide of moral-relativism, delusion, denial of reality, intolerance, progressive silencing of different views, intellectual Bolshevism, and the sheer societal incoherence that is so horribly evident in the Western world. Virtually all of this dreadful stuff comes from the Left.....and is the inevitable outcome of the Left's war on the West; the oft-cited "Long march through the Institutions" which was , and is, aimed at destabilizing (and then destroying) the family, the Church, the Laws, the professions and Academia. This terrible and suicidal agenda is well on the way to success.
Insightful & entertaining as always Douglas. Props to Mark Steyn as well.
Kismet Hardy?
Many in the Victorian era believed "Kiss me Hardy" had been misheard. They suggested instead that Nelson had been speaking Turkish, declaring "Kismet Hardy". 'Kismet' means fate or destiny.
However, contemporary historians argue that this explanation is a Victorian invention, since the earliest recorded use of the term 'Kismet' in the English language does not appear until after 1805.
Others also claimed that Nelson had said "Kiss Emma, Hardy", referring to his mistress and lover Lady Emma Hamilton.
You may not like many of us in the USA, but you would fit in better with us across the pond! True, the less pragmatic of our citizens have the largest platform, but the sensible few would be honored to have you at home in our Nation.