there is the reality if gary has to take less, he wont be staying in toronto, but go to a playoff team. my guess is gary gets 16-23 million from someone. if raptors want gary not being a free agent destination, they will have to overpay to keep him. gary isnt doing toronto any favors.
You outlined all his flaws and then pay him $20 mil max? For Gary?!?! That would be an insane overpay. I don't want him back but if he did return.... $12 mil a year for 2 yrs, team option for a 3rd year
I like Gary Trent Jr, he's one of my favorite player with the Raptors, but if we have to trade him, why not been creative. Let's try a Gary Trent Jr Bruce Brown & Jordan Nwora trade to get something interesting like more young talent, draft pick, roster spot, etc. Or something similar. At least, we can keep him and give him another contract. He offers a good service according to me.
Gary’s issues are he is not good enough to be starter on good teams and we want to be a good team during his next contract. When he comes off bench he does not bring as much production. He wants to be paid close to RJ $ but he is not as valuable. If he played 26 mins a night full attack mode off bench and helped win those mins vs being a scoring 4-5 starting option I would pay him more. However, most of the time in that 6th man role he has not loved and owned it. I think we should focus on other needs of the team and let GD or OA see what they can do with Gary’s mins.
DeAnthony Melton, I’d even splurge and go after Malik Monk which is preferable than giving Gary his rate. They really wanted Talen-Horton Tucker for years.
to me, it all depends on the market. if a team with cap space is willing throw money at him at 21-22M+ like HOU and IND did lat year then have to let him go. Maybe get a couple of expiring contracts on prospects for a sig-and-trade but that is about it. We don't need another Bruce Brown typr contract on the books. GTJ may be a bit underpaid at the mid-level exception deal. A faid contract would be somewhere in the middle of mid-leve/BB moeny. I'm thinling 15-17M tops. they can rive him 2+1 so he can rehad his value to get another bad at 28-28 yo. I like GTJ but he is has not developed into what we expected him to be.
He's worth the same contract he had before but he might get offered $20M somewhere else. Should we keep him? I don't know. But I'm sure if he goes somewhere else he'll end contributing to a playoff team.
In my opinion only way to do a sign with trent is a sign in trade for a starting pf . Raptors can try to find a player they can use as a rotation player in the draft. Start olynyk barnes barrett dick quickley
Who would you prefer to pay 20+mill Gary or Bruce? Me personally I’d rather have a player like Gary on our team than Bruce. Mind you Toronto doesn’t attract many players
There’s always a place on an NBA roster for a guy who shoots like Trent. Agree that he hasn’t really developed his game, but I’d like to see him stay on the Raptors. His ideal role seems to be as a 6th guy / shooter off the bench, if he can settle into that.
@@giovanni-ed7zq I don’t necessarily disagree…but I wonder who they’ll end up spending money on instead who will be a better “deal”. Trent could be dynamite on a good team with ball movement - but agree the Raptors probably won’t be one of those in the near future. He hits big shots and plays with confidence. On THIS version of the team he is kinda forced to be something he’s not.
@@howardfischer1915 look the raptors are in rebuild. they dont need to spend money on trent. their goal is to develop players they draft over the next 2-4 years.
@@howardfischer1915 They'll try to spend money on needs, such as a back-up PG, back-up rim-protecting C, and wing defenders, especially ones who can also shoot 3's. Even if they opt to draft these needs, there's nothing wrong for a rebuilding team to be flexible.
If i could sign and trade him on a good contract id do that. He brings zero upside in future and a high dollar bench piece. Good as a sixth man but not for the 20 million he wants. We have Dick and hes the future.
toronto has to overpay for free agents. if gary is taking less he is going to a playoff team and not staying on a rebuilding team. thats just the reality of the toronto market where free agents dont normally come.
Shooters like Duncan Robinson, Davis Bertans, and Joe Harris all got paid and look what happened. Even though Trent is a better defender than all of them, it does not make up for his streaky shooting. He's a Terrence Ross with average athleticism at best.
To me ujiri and Webster should be traded and gtj should stay. After all gtj is a real baller ujiri and Webster are NOT. Matter of fact they are two LOSERS.
Yes I’m sure the only 2 GM’s that won anything meaningful in this country since the early 90’s are losers 😂 because the Jays GM and your favorite Hockey teams GM’s are winning so many championships 🙄
That's so disrespectful lol... do you realize how little 15mil a year is in the NBA now? He's making 18-20 n it won't be from the Raptors since it doesn't make sense for them to give him that.
Gary is not worth the contract he’s getting now. The last contract he was a sure fire starter on Nick Nurse’s squad and had built in upside due to his youth. After 4 years, we know who he is now- he’s a good three point shooter but not good anything else. The only reason he’d stay is because the Gradey isn’t ready to start and Ochai didn’t step up. If he stays, he’d have to take a pay cut and team friendly deal 2 years/$26 mil knowing that he’s a stop gap solution. He’s not as good as Grayson Allen or Donte DiVincenzo.
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there is the reality if gary has to take less, he wont be staying in toronto, but go to a playoff team. my guess is gary gets 16-23 million from someone. if raptors want gary not being a free agent destination, they will have to overpay to keep him. gary isnt doing toronto any favors.
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PAY HIM. JUST RELAX 🤔
You outlined all his flaws and then pay him $20 mil max? For Gary?!?! That would be an insane overpay. I don't want him back but if he did return.... $12 mil a year for 2 yrs, team option for a 3rd year
Gary Trent not coming back will make my mom sad, so let’s hope he comes back!
He's a wasteman, let him walk in free agency or sign him for cheap and trade his ass.
@@KrazieSevinagreed
We always got the same thoughts. Didnt even watch the video and had the same opinion. Spot on analysis
I like Gary Trent Jr, he's one of my favorite player with the Raptors, but if we have to trade him, why not been creative. Let's try a Gary Trent Jr Bruce Brown & Jordan Nwora trade to get something interesting like more young talent, draft pick, roster spot, etc. Or something similar. At least, we can keep him and give him another contract. He offers a good service according to me.
What? Thise are the only options.
@@5plus4 i prefer not trade him and give him what he wants. But if he want to go or something else, many options could be available.
Gary’s issues are he is not good enough to be starter on good teams and we want to be a good team during his next contract. When he comes off bench he does not bring as much production. He wants to be paid close to RJ $ but he is not as valuable.
If he played 26 mins a night full attack mode off bench and helped win those mins vs being a scoring 4-5 starting option I would pay him more. However, most of the time in that 6th man role he has not loved and owned it. I think we should focus on other needs of the team and let GD or OA see what they can do with Gary’s mins.
Take a pass on Gary. He is what he is, a streaky shooter. Put that money into a wing.
I think it would be good to talk about the other players in free agency who might be cheaper or better fit than GTJ.
DeAnthony Melton, I’d even splurge and go after Malik Monk which is preferable than giving Gary his rate. They really wanted Talen-Horton Tucker for years.
to me, it all depends on the market. if a team with cap space is willing throw money at him at 21-22M+ like HOU and IND did lat year then have to let him go. Maybe get a couple of expiring contracts on prospects for a sig-and-trade but that is about it. We don't need another Bruce Brown typr contract on the books.
GTJ may be a bit underpaid at the mid-level exception deal. A faid contract would be somewhere in the middle of mid-leve/BB moeny. I'm thinling 15-17M tops. they can rive him 2+1 so he can rehad his value to get another bad at 28-28 yo. I like GTJ but he is has not developed into what we expected him to be.
He's worth the same contract he had before but he might get offered $20M somewhere else. Should we keep him? I don't know. But I'm sure if he goes somewhere else he'll end contributing to a playoff team.
I wouldn’t pay him 20, somewhere between 15 and 20 Seems right.
In my opinion only way to do a sign with trent is a sign in trade for a starting pf . Raptors can try to find a player they can use as a rotation player in the draft. Start olynyk barnes barrett dick quickley
Powel got 18 mill. I like Powel better so Gary should get 20 max just cause with time everyone's money goes up
His contract will probably look like Grayson Allen's contract
Wiggins not necessarily a good fit unless we can get him on a team friendly deal 😅
Who would you prefer to pay 20+mill Gary or Bruce? Me personally I’d rather have a player like Gary on our team than Bruce. Mind you Toronto doesn’t attract many players
There’s always a place on an NBA roster for a guy who shoots like Trent. Agree that he hasn’t really developed his game, but I’d like to see him stay on the Raptors. His ideal role seems to be as a 6th guy / shooter off the bench, if he can settle into that.
toronto will have to overpay, if gary taking less he is not staying in toronto who is rebuilding and will go to a playoff team.
@@giovanni-ed7zq I don’t necessarily disagree…but I wonder who they’ll end up spending money on instead who will be a better “deal”. Trent could be dynamite on a good team with ball movement - but agree the Raptors probably won’t be one of those in the near future. He hits big shots and plays with confidence. On THIS version of the team he is kinda forced to be something he’s not.
@@howardfischer1915 look the raptors are in rebuild. they dont need to spend money on trent. their goal is to develop players they draft over the next 2-4 years.
@@howardfischer1915 They'll try to spend money on needs, such as a back-up PG, back-up rim-protecting C, and wing defenders, especially ones who can also shoot 3's. Even if they opt to draft these needs, there's nothing wrong for a rebuilding team to be flexible.
I think Dick could also be that 6th man energy boost.
Not paying over 20 mil for Trent, sign LeBron 3 years 25 million and draft Bronny
Don't forget Immanuel Quickley's contract!
Quickley is less of a worry. The raptors will match any offer any team throws at him unless they offer him a max deal which is unlikely.
@mikeyjames I hear you but it's still to be done and is more important than gtj
He worth nothing much
$45 million over 3 years with a player option.
what decision ......put him on the trade block ...you will find out his worth from the non interest
Just let him walk. Doubt anybody gives him crazy money. At best lets do a sign and trade
12mil / 3yrs that’s it
Damn I already miss raptors ball.
Meh, I don't miss the ball they were playing the last 40 games lol. I prefer the plaoff games we got rn.
no more than jak is getting paid (per year). 2 years max.
If i could sign and trade him on a good contract id do that. He brings zero upside in future and a high dollar bench piece. Good as a sixth man but not for the 20 million he wants. We have Dick and hes the future.
toronto has to overpay for free agents. if gary is taking less he is going to a playoff team and not staying on a rebuilding team. thats just the reality of the toronto market where free agents dont normally come.
$0. Why would you resign Gary when u already paying RJ and Gradey and need to resign Quickley. Doesn't make sense. Let him walk, it is what it is.
Shooters like Duncan Robinson, Davis Bertans, and Joe Harris all got paid and look what happened. Even though Trent is a better defender than all of them, it does not make up for his streaky shooting. He's a Terrence Ross with average athleticism at best.
Don't sign him. To inconsistent. Time to move on from him.
To me ujiri and Webster should be traded and gtj should stay. After all gtj is a real baller ujiri and Webster are NOT. Matter of fact they are two LOSERS.
Yes I’m sure the only 2 GM’s that won anything meaningful in this country since the early 90’s are losers 😂 because the Jays GM and your favorite Hockey teams GM’s are winning so many championships 🙄
Gary should be offered 4 years 60 M with team option in last year
That's so disrespectful lol... do you realize how little 15mil a year is in the NBA now? He's making 18-20 n it won't be from the Raptors since it doesn't make sense for them to give him that.
not a raptors
Bye
Gary is not worth the contract he’s getting now. The last contract he was a sure fire starter on Nick Nurse’s squad and had built in upside due to his youth. After 4 years, we know who he is now- he’s a good three point shooter but not good anything else.
The only reason he’d stay is because the Gradey isn’t ready to start and Ochai didn’t step up.
If he stays, he’d have to take a pay cut and team friendly deal 2 years/$26 mil knowing that he’s a stop gap solution. He’s not as good as Grayson Allen or Donte DiVincenzo.