This Filter Converted Me To Canister Fiilters! Oase 850 BioMaster Thermo Canister Filter Review
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
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I'm n the states in west TN and all I seen was your title. The Oase biomaster series, especially the thermo is by far one of my favorite filters I've ever used. It's a bit pricey but the craftsmanship and thought that went into these filters is amazing. I only have one and I've had mine for over 2 years now and it still runs like new. An amazing filter to say the least and the ease of the pre-filter is top notch. Don't gotta watch this video to comment on this lol
I have the 600, and even though it filters great, mine has a low hum that is very loud. Even with the tv on you can hear it. Needless to say i'm looking for a new "quieter" canister.
I love the pre filter and internal heater feature. Hands down my favorite canister filters.
I love these filters, I have 2 and they’re the best I’ve ever had!! Jason you’re gonna love them as well. I’m a huge fan of the channel.
I was running a Tidal 110 on my 45 gallon living room tank for about 4 years. It was just too noisy. I replaced it a few weeks ago with a 350 Biomaster Thermo. This filter is so quiet I need to visually check the flow to make sure it’s actually running. The prefilter and heater being in the canister minimizes the equipment on the back wall of the tank making it much more visually appealing and makes for easier maintenance. There are plenty of new canisters out on the market now but Oase seems to be the only company that has done anything innovative. It’s different…..not just a me too.
Thanks for another informative, well done video, Jason!!
I have found that using filter floss means more maintenance, being that it traps almost everything. My goal is to keep from having to ever crack open my canister unless I notice a reduction in flow. I love how this filter has the pre filter for easier maintenance. I also love how everyone has their own way/style in keeping fish. Keep up the great videos and store.
Ditto! There is really no wrong way to keep fish and the types of filters to use if the fish are healthy. :)
Thanks for this video. I have not used a canister type filter before, they were intimidating, so I appreciate this info!
This is super innovative & really interesting. Thanks for the in depth review Jason.🐠🐟
Hey Jason Happy 🆕 year to u & family. Sweet canister filter review. Keep us posted on future updates on it.
Thank you!
I have been using Fluval's for the last 15 years but since 2 years ago I switched to Oase just because is so easy to clean the prefilter. Love it...
I've had the 250 with the heater and love it so far. I've had it for two years.
I own this Oase 850 and I love it.
Nice looking foward to its abilities. I have a small canister for my 29 gallon freshwater and a double the size for my reef tank like them so far kinda wish mine had internal heaters
I too love to pack my canister with floss !!! It’s a no brainer water clarity is pristine :)
I have the Biomaster thermo 600 I have had it almost 2 years. It does purge air a bit but it works great.
Thanks for turning me on to this brand of filter. I couldn't really tell how well it will fit under a regular store bought 125 cabinet stand but I will measure that. I love the internal heater. And the pre filter deal. Man I don't see how you have such beautiful tanks without using the Bio media. Sponge filters are ok for some. I don't like the noise from the bubbles. And they just seem so dirty when in the tank and not just in the filter. But you definitely know your stuff. Anyway thanks again, I appreciate all your videos.
Thank you!
I LIKE IT!!!
hi my name is Dawson and I love your videos .I watch your videos as often as I can keep up the good work.
Definitely will keep my eye open for the long term review. I have a few of these in different sizes. They can get burpy over time. I cant quite tell what causes it. Maintenance helps of course. The prefilter is such a nice feature
So the OVERALL reason is that the Pump isn't quite powerful enough for a filter that size. The Syphon inflow usually isn't as fast as the pump outflow and this causes depressurization that lets disolved gases escape the water, with also the negative pressure causing a VERY SMALL amount of air getting in from the seals.
As such their is a list of things you can do
1) If you have the smaller sizes, put a filter head from the larger pumps on the smaller filter. This will ALWAYS fix the problem but is an expensive solution.
2) The tube in the pre-filter can have extra holes drilled into it, thus making the water flow into the spongers more smoothly.
2a)The pre-filter spongers should be the Lowest PPI they sell. Oase has largely released this themselves and ususally they come as standard, but thats not true of the older ones.
3)Keep the intake and return as short as you can, with the return run being most important.
4)Change the flow of water on the outflow to be slower using the dials
5)Clean the Prefilter regularly
6) Reinforce the place where the intake and return attach to the canister OR look up Oase guide on how they should be screwed on and follow it exactly
7) Use a silicon grease on your o-rings to improve the seal.
8)Drill a small hole at the top of the prefilter. I REALLY don't like this option myself personally, as if done wrong can increase the risk of leaks.... but if the air escapes itself, it has no need to purge.
Most people report doing a list of 2,3,4 and 5 is ususally enough, although 6 and 7 can help in extreme cases.
I just got a new 350 and they have replaced the clear pre-filter tube with a bigger gray colored one with many more holes in it.
I have 3 smaller biomasters. I like them a lot for maintenance.
One more thing. I like to use 2 filters on my tanks. Usually a canister filter and to hang on the back filter. Like the 125 in my bedroom. I have a fluval 407 and a aqua clear 500. Or whatever they call it now. It's a Angel fish tank. I'll cut it short. Thanks again. Love you guys. 💪
Hands down the best filter I’ve used and I’ve used most types. What pairs perfect with this is the AI HD Prime Freshwater lights it’s a must try!!! Best light hands down.
Great filter. If ever get a big tank I will definitely keep this in mind. 🐠🐌🐟 Gina
They are flawless filters, in my humble opinion. I am running a thermo 250 on a 55 and a thermo 100 on a 20L. Both are in my living making zero noise
I love it too !
Just bought that shirt, as soon as I seen you wearing it I was like yup, camo is my style.
Thank you!
After a very successful weight loss journey I went from a 3XL to L shirt. I just bought the the camo shirt you all sell as one of the first L size shirts I own. I love it; it is a great shirt! Also, I have thought about switching from HOB to cannisters for my 120 gallon aquariums, but just can't make myself spend $300-$500 for a cannister filter.
Congrats! That is awesome!
Yo congrats on the weightloss !
Congratulations! 😊
I bought a Biomaster 250 for my UNS 60U back in October. I really like the integrated heater, but after 2 month is became very noisy. I removed the pre filter sponges and driller bigger holes in the pre filter tube to help with flow. After making that modification I no longer hear air bubbles bursting and the motor humming.
I've been using Oase BioMasters for a few years now and I love them, for three reasons: they perform reliably, they're easy to maintain, and they're quiet as death. I have two display tanks in my living room, both running BioMasters (including one with an 850), and the only way I even know the filters are running is from the water movement out of the lily pipes. These filters are a little pricey, but they're solid, quality products.
Good to hear!
Hi Jason, I have the smaller 250 on a planted 55 running for 2 years now. Other than air purging every now and then, no issues. I have an inline CO2 arts diffuser, and the plants grow very well. The pre-filter is awesome. I clean it under tap water every 2 weeks or so. I will be honest, I clean the inside of the canister once a year. No issue. The pre-filter and integrated heater is the key to this filter.
Is yours quiet? I have a 600 with a low but loud hum that is very annoying😓
@danszczerba65 iI is quiet. Not as quiet as my old Ehiem, but pretty quiet. Like I said, my only issue is that it purges air every now and then. I originally thought it was my inline diffuser, but it's not.
@@danszczerba65 On my 600 I had a similar issue and it turned out to be a little build up on the impeller. I took that out and cleaned it and the sound went away. Also might check that the rubber sound dampening feet that should have come with your unit are correctly installed. If not that could be contributing to your issue.
This thing is wild! I was looking for a new filter for my chinese water dragon paludarium.
The pre filter is a game changer. It’s such a pain lugging the fluval to the sink and going through the media inside. I’m not a fan of the inlet and outlet styling. Fluval is nicer in that aspect.
I have the 600 thermo on a 90 gallon for the past 18 months. Awesome canister. Pre filter and integrated heater knock the competition into the weeds. German build quality is as you would expect superb. Expensive maybe, but it's the difference between Maybach and Ford. You pays your money, you takes your choice...
Paulo how do you find the flow on your 600 on your 90 gallon I’m on the fence about getting x1 600 with a couple of wavemskers for my 75 I’m setting up or going with x2 350’s
its a good idea to put a prefilter sponge on the intake cause otherwise the prefilter on the canister can get clogged pretty quick, I clean that off everytime i clean the tank and i only do the prefilter once a year, it is kind of a pain to do when you have the filter in a cabinet that isnt tall enough to remove it. Also nice you can set the heater up in the tank first so you can see when it turns on and off to get the temp dialed in right where you want it then put it in the canister. For those of us without a fishroom it works out really well to cut up the sponge to fit in a hang on back so you have cycled media for a hospital or a quarentine tank. The biggest advantage to me is you can feed that filter for a few weeks then put all your fish in a tub and easily put that filter on the tub and fish will have everything they need while you redo your tank entirely and then you can put everything back without concern about your cycle.
Would love to try one but too expensive for me unfortunately
Another Great but barely noticed Canister Filters are the ones made by Aquael.
Nice review 👍
I just got a 350 biomaster for my 75 gallon and i was concerned the 200 watt heater wouldn't be enough on a 75, but it heats it and holds 81 degrees pretty easily from a ambient room temp in my basement of 66 degrees.
I may get the bigger 600 model for the 75 and move the 350 to a 40g breeder.
Ya, those heaters are holding my 125s at 78 with no issues. : -) And those tanks aren't covered.
@PrimeTimeAquatics , yep and the tanks looks so much better without a big titanium heater in the background 😅😮
Can you test out the smaller ones like the filtosmart thermo
👍🏿👍🏿 thanks for sharing
Thanx for the review. How long are the input/out put hoses?
What the inside diameter to the hoses?
Not sure about the diameter but they provide about 10ft-12ft of hose?
I wish some manufacturer would make a kit to retrofit/replace all these suction cups with magnets instead.
Can you talk about aquael hypermax canister.please
Am I interested in another canister filter? No, however "It's ur boy Jason in prime time from prime time Aquatics"
Love you, Jason 😂
Woohoo!
I have a 600 Thermo, and even though it filters great, mine has a low hum that is very annoying. I even built a box of 4 inch styrofoam inside the cabnit to kill the sound but it hasn't helped-45db with the stryo box😓
From Germany!
A few weels ago, I had to decide between the Biomaster 850 and an Aquael 2000 Ultramax. The defining factor for me was how much more expensive the Biomaster was compared to the Aquael (about 33% more). I also prefered the simple design of the Aquael, able to cut my own sponges a lot easier than the Oase. I still want to give a big Oase filter a good try but just haven't been able to justify it just yet.
They are pricey but you get what you pay for. You could take out all the sponges and replace with matrix and be set. It's not the mechanical filtration that makes a difference imo but biological filtration and the biomaster is a beast. Plus it houses a pre-filter and the thermometer if you get the thermo. I'm a guy that's a paycheck to paycheck kinda guy sadly, and I only own 1 biomaster thermo for my main tank. It's only 30gal but I made sure that if I was going to build a nice tank for my living room that I was going to have the best in everything lol.
I felt the same , I have a 30 gallon and a oase 500 on it . I have matrix on all the chambers except the top . Easy to clean the pre filters weekly and boy do they get dirty !
Looks like a great filter. My question is does the heater have its own plug? I use heater controllers for extra protection. I had one go bad years ago and cook my fish.
Yes it does.
Yes the heater has its own plug.
Jason,
Great filter reviews but a difference when a company sends them to you for free and having to buy one. They canister filters like most of them are really pricey and usually out of range for most fish keepers. I went with the tidal filters on all my tanks because canisters are just way too much money. Even on my 100 gal CA / SA tank I added 2 Tidal 110s and have no issues with water filtration. ❤😢
I am considering tidal over my decades long aquaclear favorite. Would you change over to tidal from aquaclear? I would mainly use it for a sponge bio and a bit of flow and polish
@@toddbigeasy I would I like that the pump sits inside the tank so it’s quiet and will self prime. I heard the aqua clear don’t do that and I hate adding water to prime a filter.
Thanks for the review. Does the pre-filter sponge have to be activated carbon sponge? Is there a non-carbon option?
I'm not sure if there is a non-carbon option?
Hi
I have a newly setup 55 gallon. Stocking is 4 Keyhole Cichlids, 12 Rosyfin Tetras & 8 Bronze Cory’s. All fish are young. I may add an Angelfish in the future. Would a 250 thermal be ok? Or should I go with the 350.
I would go with the 350.
Will this be okay as the sole filter for a 125 gallon saltwater aquarium. Fish only no corals, sand bottom.
Also, how often do you replace the sponge filters and where do they sell them?
Thank you for your videos and advice.
If the tank is heavily stocked you might want something with a little more flow, but these have been good for our stocking levels. I don’t think the sponge inside would have to be replaced for years.
Please let us know about the ‘burping’ many users report. Thanks.
I've been running a Thermo 250 and 350 on my 65 gallon freshwater heavily planted community tank. Been running them both for about 2yrs. Heater from the 250 is the only one running. The 350 heater is held aside as a back-up. Fantastic! Crystal clear water with sponges and media only. I hope you thought of having enough head room under your tank to be able to remove the pre filter for cleaning without having to move the entire canister. The 250 lives under the tank. The 350 lives next to the stand so I can easily remove the pre filter for cleaning. Just saying...
Good to hear!
Actually - I’ll be pulling that thing out to get at the pre filter sponge. Haha
Can you comment on the temps please? I have read mixed reviews of "pass through" heater units, as opposed to heaters which sit permanently in the tank :)
I have used them in canisters and HOB and they seem to hold temps just fine.
Can you replace the carbon sponge pre filter if you don't want to use carbon? Thank you!!
I went on Amazon and bought the Oase coarse pre-filter sponges. I did not use the original pre-filter sponges the unit came with. To me, this filter is all about maintenance.
Yes, Oase do various ppi pre filter sponges. Only one is carbon.
Rather than use floss inside, my suggestion would be to switch the pre-filter foams to the Oase stock 60 ppi pre-filter foams and clean them more often. The benefit is that you can then both achieve the water polishing you want but refrain from opening the main canister for, potentially, many many months.
Nice!
I'll buy almost two FX series for the price of this.
So when the heater inevitably dies....
Not a big deal. There is a cap that comes with the heater compartment - either cap it off or replace it.
do they make a non-carbon prefilter?
Yes
Is there any long-term danger with having a heater combined in the small space of the filter if it would fail and or overheat and melt the filter plastic-walls, sounds like catastrophe?
I don’t think that would happen, but should the filter fail the tank temps would also go down.
Yeah, but the entire contents of the tank would empty onto the floor, whereas with a traditional heater placement that would not cause any water loss. @@PrimeTimeAquatics
Isn’t that the one Corey from the CoOp says is horrible?
Not sure? So far they have done well.
this and a 70 gallon turtle tank?
Sure!
so you got a free very expensive filter and you liked it, jeez theres a surprise !
No, I liked it when I saw them at Aquashella before I ever put them on my tanks and wanted to highlight them and this was a good opportunity!
@@PrimeTimeAquaticsJason I am setting up a 75 gallon tank shortly the 850 is too tall for my stand do you think I will be alright with just a 600 and a couple of wavemakers to increase flow or should I go with x2 350’s the 600 is large enough I feel to pack it out the flow is a bit underpowered according to most aquarium guys!European mfgrs I’ve read don’t put a lot of emphasis on high flow these filters are pricey so x2 350’s could be pricey.The tank will be planted I’m pretty sure I’m going to go with a barb tank thanks Jason
@@johnnyblaze3152 should be plenty for a 75. I'm running a 600 on my 55 gallon and there's more than enough flow. If you want to increase any you can use the included spray bars instead of the output Jason uses. Its a more concentrated output and will definitely cause a stir. I've used both and the spray bar was actually too strong.
Some things just shouldn’t be combined imo , heater breaks it’s over
They have the non-thermo version as well.
Funny how the biggest canister filter still only flows 400gph?my ten gallon sump on my freshwater tank can flow 2000gph.think more people with several tanks should hook up one or two sums an be done.much cheaper then 10 400$ canister filters.
If the canister filter is 22 inches tall and the pre-filter pulls out vertical from the top that would mean you would need a minimum of 44-in vertical under the tank to remove the filter. I don't think anyone has a tank that far off the ground so the filter will have to be located away from the tank to use the pre-filter.
You just have to tilt the filter a little. I use one on a 75-gallon mubuna tank.
I've heard a bit too many horror stories abot this filter. But I might try non-heater version some day.
Sorry but for $500, I'll stick with my SunSun filters.
Is this a review on a product you haven’t used yet?
I usually do an initial unboxing and follow up with a long term review after one year.
Sorry but they're an ok filter at best. Flow isnt great, they burp air a fair bit after a few months use and they're expensive.
The aquael ultramax filters 1500/2000 are, imo, a far superior filter and a lot cheaper
I’ll do long term updates in about 12 months.
Why too complicated. You shouldn’t have to get the manual out to service or be a strong person to lift it.
You don’t. This filter is no more complicated than any other canister filter. It just has much better features. The integrated carry handle makes moving it very easy…no need to be “strong”.
Absolutely not complicated at all.