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hi great video question if you do everything stop air get into canister filter it just don't work do think it time get mew ones I have 2 Marineland canister on 60gal again great video
Canister Filter plus a sponge for the intake. The sponge catches the biggest stuff so you only have to squeeze it out every now and then. I use this for my canister and I have only taken it apart and cleaned it once in the past year and a half. So much easier to squeeze out the intake sponge once in a while then take the whole canister apart. Similar maintenance as a sponge filter.
I love that your fish room is set up as a room to be in and enjoy the fish; not just a bunch of racks in a highly impersonal space. I greatly appreciate how you always present information in a positive and informative way. You never come across as “I know everything.” I run FX series on my 2 larger tanks. I think for many people (myself included) the “prepackaged” options that canister filters provide as opposed to sumps is a big reason people choose canister filters in larger tanks. And certainly the number of tanks a person has running will affect the decisions they make. Thanks for adding the fish names in the B-roll! Keep the videos coming!
Love the canister filters. For my small shrimp tank i'm using a sponge filter. I have been in the hobby for almost fifty years and have seen many changes. Love your videos. Never to old to learn.
A very informative school for thought. I have kept fish since 1975 and have used both internal sponge type filters and cannister. I have used Ehiem cannister filters for the best part of 25 years and find that they do an incredible job both in removing waste and circulating water. I use quick release connector taps which allow for the cannister to be removed quickly and simply. I do not find the cleaning of the media too much trouble however I admit it's a monthly job I do not look forward to doing. I also agree that if you reassemble it incorrectly you'll get a leak which is why after putting the thing back insitu I watch it for the first 10 minutes just in case. I only have the one tank with eight large discus and I think that if you are running just the one tank then a cannister is worth the effort. I generally think your advice is sound but possibly a little too much against the cannister.
I'm in process of building 300 litres aquarium and i wanted to buy a canister filter with 1500l/h flow. But after watching your channel i think i will go with 2 Aqua Clear 70 hob. 2 times cheaper. Saved me some money Jason, thanks and greetings from Poland ;)
I am doing the same thing Jakub Morawski except I am using two AquaClear 110 gallon hang on back filters. They work great on my 90 gallon tank. Happy Fish keeping.😀
They tell you that you need a water flow, twice or triple the volume of the tank. I don’t believe that is necessarily so. At lest if it’s not a heavy stocked tank. And you have a planted tank. I have a 325l aquarium with a sponge filter and a internal filter in it. They are doing the job, no problem. The filtration hype is real, don’t pay attention to it
I just started my 300 liters amazonic biotope it has a Junzhuang (or something like that) cannister 1500 l/h i was a little skeptical at the beggining but it cost me around 90 dollars including shipping, so I took the risk i gotta tell you it does the job, has 10 litters of capacity, it has 3 kg of ceramic canuts and a lot of sponges and doesnt make any noise, the water is crystal clear and i only do 45 lt water changes everyweek. If Im THAT happy with a chinnese cannister i cant imagine how efficient a fluval is.
Dude hob are complete trash he’s just saying that cuz he has tons of tanks and he’s lazy of course maintaining multiple tanks would be annoying. canister filters are way better and there cheap online
Never had a canister filter before. Bought a FX6 on Black Friday last year for my 125g that I'll be setting up when I move. I just installed and got it up and running on my 55g ( my current largest tank) to get the BB started and have it ready for my 125g when I go move. I set it in March or April and haven't cleaned it yet. The water in my 55g is more clear than it's ever been. I will be cleaning it at the end of this month and I'm sure it will be tedious and time consuming. I should probably get in the habit of cleaning it at least every two months. While I agree they are the most time consuming and tedious filters to clean, you don't have to clean them every week. Assuming your running a canister appropriate to the volume of your aquarium and assuming your not highly overstocked, you should only have to clean it once every 2-3 months.
Great video. I have 2 Sun Sun 302s on my 75 and 1 on my 46. Love them. Not top quality, but not expensive and they do a great job of keeping everything clear while not making a sound. Definately a little extra work to clean, but it's part of the process.
I have a 65 gallon tank with 4 fancy Goldfish... I had two sponge filters and two HOB, they were working perfect with crystal clear water, only downside was the space the sponges occupied in the tank and the air pump noise made me crazy... I wished to buy a Canister but didn’t wanted to spend so much... So I made a DIY 2 feet Tall 4 inch PVC pipe filter with a 1500 lph powerhead... I put all the media from the two HOB and the two sponges in the pipe with additional Polyfill and Ceramic rings... I have attached the output to a Top filter outlet pipe with multiple holes, it works like charm abd there is waterfall sound only and no other sound. Thanks for the video...top notch content as always👍🏻👍🏻
Like anything else there is always a time and place for everything. I have a Eheim canister filter on my 75 gal and love it. I have been using the same one for over 25 yrs. A true workhorse. I have used it with sponge filters and hob filters depending on what I keep in the tank. Absolutely love it.
You guys always make the most informative videos. I was on the fence about using a canister for my 40 breeder but now I am decided. Definitely going to use the canister!
Love my Sun Sun 704b canister. An inexpensive sponge pre-filter attached over the intake slips off easily for squeeze cleaning and greatly reduces cleaning intervals for the canister to 3 or 4 time a year. It sits nicely inside a 12 gal plastic utility tub bucket with rope handles for easy lifting and any drip catching. A $13 water alarm sensor in the bucket loudly warns of a drip should one occur but never has. Used to have submersible power filters which were a pain. My tank is over stocked so I also run two sponge filters. This system works flawlessly for my 37 gallon.
I bought a canister 3yrs ago and I love it. Yes when maintenance comes around its annoying, but you only have to clean it every 2 or 3 months and with the canister you can customize your filteration to your needs. I highly recommend!
Canister filters r not my cup of tea. I have personally experienced several with leakage problems. Did everything possible to keep them from doing so to no avail. HOB is in my opinion by far the best in many ways. Price, clean up etc. Jason thanks again for the great video. 👍😎
My favorite set up for my 55 was a canister connected directly to the stacks of an under gravel filter. I alternated the sides where the input and output were on cleaning days. I used less biological and more filter and polish layers in the canister, because by using the UGs down tubes the entire gravel field became all of the active biological filtration I could want. As for leaking, the canister was kept in a bucket and checked, cleaned at least monthly with my cleaning, water change and reversing the flow. The concern over leaking and damaging floors / carpets is a pretty weak one as those floors, near tanks are going to receive drips and splashes constantly already, and worse case tanks can leak also. Anyone that hyper concerned about a leaking canister doing damage, probably shouldn't have tanks there at all.
I really am glad i started with your site. Love the pros and cons videos especially. I personally like canister filters but you made super points of alternatives. I probably will always use canisters on my corner tanks if for nothing but getting close to walls. Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for the comparison, as I was thinking about getting a canister filter or a hang on back ... too much maintenance for my four tanks, I’ll stick with my sponge filters! Love your videos, as you get straight to the point and don’t “waffle on” like so many ... you are very professional. - clear and concise!!! Well done and thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Soooo educational man love your videos and I recommend your channel to everyone that I know that keeps fish. Keep up the great content. Greetings from Puerto Rico.
Beautiful crystal clear tanks and fish!!! I’ve never used a canister filter mainly price for me. I’m a budget hobbiest. I’ve always used HOB filters and went to sponge filtration and DIY filters for my ponds with power head pumps and some floating bio media run by air pumps
I have a 40 gallon tank. 4 gold fish right now. I am getting between 6-8 white cloud minnows and 4-6 Kuhli loaches as well as a few live low light plants. I am going to put a large sponge filter in my tank. I was curious if I should also get a filter system like the penguin pro as well? Thank you sir. Your videos are superb and I am subscribed.
Thank you your channel is alot more informative then many others, Still none the wiser what pump best on 75g chichid tank. I use two internal filters and the one the tank came with which is built in. I'll get there but any advise would be appreciated, thank you.
Any thoughts in running an under gravel variation with lots of biohome in bags above it in 1/2 the sump the other 1/2 is planted and everything is in my sump. I replace some cheap filter floss and 1 filter sock so far nitrates are good and doing this with a fairly stocked 225 gal cichlid tank.
I have tired all filters and personally prefer canister filters. With HOB and sponge filters I have to clean out every week to 2 weeks. And they are messy. I can never clean a sponge filter without getting a lot of the gunk back in the tank. With a canister filter I can let it run for months. Usually around the 3 month mark I pull it apart replace the filter floss and swipe out my purigen seacham bags. The maintenance is really not that hard at all. I have a fluvial and Eheim canister filters in a 20 Gallon and 17 Gallon high tech tanks. My water has never been clearer, less fish die off and way better flow.
I like the relative silence and longer maintenance intervals of a canister filter, and they allow the tank to look a bit more tidy. However, I have hardwood floors and rugs, and am apprehensive about leaks, so I use Seachem Tidal HOBs on my 3 tanks. I over filter by having two HOBs on each tank, so that in the unlikely event one fails, the other filter can still carry the full load of the tank. I don't run these at their full flow rate, but have the flow turned down a bit to approximately 50 percent, so with both running the overall flow is about what one would flow at maximum. The Seachem isn't noisy as long as the water level is kept high (near to top of the surface skimmer intake). It is more audible than most canister filters, but not to a distracting degree. We have a 75 gallon tank in the living room, running 2 Seachem Tidal 110 HOBs, and often watch TV in that room without distraction.
Thank you so much for the information about the canister filter, i almost buy one (sunsun) for my planing 45gallon tank...instead kf caniater filter, what if i run only one AquaClear 70 hang on back will be enough for my tank? Please advise. Thx thx 🙇🏻♂️
Good info. Just got myself a lowboy myself and wondered if I should get a canister for it or a sponge filter. Definitely not going to go canister filter, but will go with the fluval u4 just to help get some water flow and will be planted and so thst I don't have to worry about leaks.
I started with the canister on our second low boy because I wanted a display feel for the tank. However, my 50 gallon low boy multi tank runs on two sponge filters. Both work fine, just depends on what you want. I did switch out the external canister in the planted lowboy in this video with a small internal canister filter and like that the best so far.
Has a new fish keeper I fell into the Trap of thinking I needed the biggest canister filter I could get I spent $300 on a FX4 that now looking back on it I could have spent in so many better aspects. I could have got a larger tank instead of 75 gallon, I'm embarrassed to admit I bought a Fluval FX4 before I even bought a test kit to test the water. should have bought a cheaper hang on the back of a Sponge Filter and the test kit and still would have had money left over. My advice would be to take a little bit of advice from all the RUclipsrs methods all the way from JLR** aquatics to kg tropics who loves his canisters. Some people like to tare apart there canister once a month so its not a negative to them. Great video!!!!!
Good morning guys.. thanks Jason for some great information.. I've considered a canister for this new tank... But I think I will stick to HOBs.. I've learned so much great information on how to make them so much more efficient and running them with a pre-filter.. this is definitely the route I'll probably go.. and "no need to fix what ain't broke"😂😁 thanks for showing us the names of the fish too... Man they really pretty!! Thanks again and I hope you enjoy and have fantastic weekend!!!❤️🐟🌱🌿🙏
Of all the filters, i prefer the canister filter the most. The reason being, if properly set up, the ten or so minutes it takes to service and clean is well worth the time when you only have to perform the task once every two or three months. The biggest mistake some people do with the CF is to pack them full of filter media and improper sequence of the media. When set up correctly, loss of filtration efficiency isn’t very common. Personally, i like to keep the tank space “clutter” (piping, heaters, skimmers, etc) to a minimum without sacrificing good water flow from end to end of my tank. HOBs are a good option though if I need to polish the water a bit or add some periodic carbon treatment. I use an old Marineland HOT CF for that.
I use Ehiem canisters to pump from one tank to another with overflows back to first tank. I use them also for Sump to tank pumps. Works well and they are quiet.
@@PrimeTimeAquatics its a lot of fun! I have 2x120 gals running from sump to tank to tank & back, and a 150 with sump. Then sump #1 overflows to sump #2. I also made an auto filler from a Toilet filler for sump #2. Nice & quiet totally reliable.
Great video!👍 I never had a canister filter before but I have always wanted to try one. The only thing that is a big no from me is the leaking problem! I won't be able to sleep at night knowing it could leak anytime or I didn't screw the cap on properly..
It is interesting the differences in the hobby between USA and Europe. The HOB is the default filter of choice for the majority of Americans yet in the UK they are not just out of favour, they are not used at all. I have never seen one in UK and I have just checked several online retailers based in UK and nobody stocks them, not even one. The canister filter reigns supreme in UK. I would love to give a HOB a try but I can't even do that, not even by importing from US because you are all running on 110 volts, in UK we are at 220-240 volts. I am currently living in Greece and again I have never seen a HOB; I have seen a comment from somebody in Netherlands saying much the same thing, just not used in that part of the world. I have no explanation for this; if HOBs are as good as it claimed I don't understand why they are not popular across the pond.
I love all the information you provide in your videos! I fell like I learn so many new things from you! I do have a question though, where is a good place to get sponge filters? I’ve looked at my local pet stores and they don’t have any!
Now I have two medium sponge filter and one Fluval hang filter. But is to much space in the aquarium. And I want to buy the delta 60 hang canister filter. How I do the change. I want to keep one sponge filter and the canister, that is ok. And for the substrate I have Little Rock’s but I prefer sand, how I do the change?
My favorite filtration system for most tanks is still an undergravel filter with a HOB for some extra mechanical and chemical filtration. Very easy maintenance and unbeatable biological filtration capacity.
I use a Sunsun canister filter and an aqueon HOB on my 110gallon, and am reasonably happy with the results. I dont have a lot of tanks to clean so 15minutes once every two months spent cleaning the canister filter seems a small price to pay.
I have a fluval 203 and cannot find any information on it. I bought a 25 gallon fish tank from someone for 40 bucks came with a stand lights that filter and a maxima air pump. Seen that tag after buying the tanks from 1996. Holding water still just hoping the structure is still there for long term use I don't want it breaking. But any way what is the fluval 203 good for or where can I find information on it
I am glad i saw this video, I just started the hobby a few months ago and i am using a canister filter at the insistence of my father and it's starting to ruin my enjoyment of the hobby. Including the problems mentioned here, my filter breaks apart every 2-4 weeks and i have problem starting it up (DIY Canister FIlters). As a grown adult, having to call my father to help me start the filter every time it breaks is really eating me up little by little. Now i feel like i either have to give up on Canisters or the hobby itself, glad i am not alone in hating canisters.
So... midnight after writing this comment, my canister's hose disconnected and at least 25 liters of water gushed on the floor and leaked to the lower levels (my aquarium is near the stairs) and i ended up having to mop 2-3 stories at 3 in the morning. I can say, i won't be using canisters for a while.
@@dominiktuchowicz7680 I agree, but but you know how dads are with diy obsessions. Good thing i didn't listen to him when he conviced me to make my own aquarium.
What are you running in the low bow for the internal canister? My two largest tanks are 20 gallons. I put an eheim ecco pro 2234 on a tank that had a lot of breeding going on. Now that the breeding has stopped and stocking levels are back to normal, I'm seriously thinking of taking the canister off. My other 20 is a rimless tank with an eheim ecco pro 2232. I'm not keen on it. May put the internal filter that came with the tank in and augment with a seeded sponge. Biggest issue is what to do with all the seeded biomedia.
Thanks for the informative video! I’m running 2 aquaclear HOBs (aquaclear 70 and 110) as well as a small sponge filter on my 75 gallon with 30 juvenile African cichlids (haps, mbuna, peacocks). Do you think It would be a good idea to add a canister down the line when my fish grow?
It might be helpful for mechanical filtration, but you will probably have all the biological you need. I run only two sponge filters on my 75 gallon peacock tank with about 20 full grown peacocks and zero issues.
I have a 55gal with 7 gold fish and 2 cat fishes n it and I have a hang on the back filter it can't keep up with them all what do I do get another hang on the back filter or what
In my opinion I like canisters over hob or sponge filters because u can go months before cleaning and it seems I am cleaning my hob and sponges every couple of weeks. Leaking is probably my only fear so I guess it depends on the user personal schedule what works best them. I would and not sure if u have already do a comparison to sumps and pros vs cons
Real quick question not sure if you've already covered this as I haven't watched the video yet but I was curious to know whether or not a canister filter makes the water temperature rise or go down or nothing at All I have a 250 gallon per hour vivo Sun utility pump in 40 gallon aquarium for an axolotl it is then pumped into a refrigerator on 45 minute intervals for 15 minutes and the pump in the tank creates a little too much heat for what I'm going for so I'm trying to find out whether or not a canister pump on the outside of the tank would create more heat or less heat if that makes any sense and in any case if the canister filter is outside the tank draws the water from the tank to the refrigerator and then back into the tank it shouldn't adjust the temperature anyways but I'm not sure whether or not these things run cool or due to the fact that they're not submerged in water they actually draw heat from the outside source thanks
Youve successfully talked me out of a canister for my new 69 gallon on the rack im building. I will also have 4 additional tanks on the rack, and they will be running sponges. I think I will probably just get a beefy air pump and run them all on sponges, maybe a powerhead for the 69, to increase the flow
Great video. My biggest problem i have with canister filters is bypass, leaks, and if you lose power the good bacteria dies very fast. Even the best canister filter have bypass which to me is a problem.
Sir,my 4feet tank i put it on the floor,can the canister filter be use with same height with my tank since my tank is on floor.?..usually people use it on below the tank.
Hi I want to know what happened with my fish. I got him one year ago. The pet store worker said he was 3 or 6 months old and that they usually live for 5 years. My betta was a crowned tail and we got him a pretty big tank (I don’t remember the size) I had him for 3 months. Suddenly, his scales became flaky or her had white bubbles on him? I don’t really remember. Anyways once he gotten that he had very low energy and did this weird thing with his food where he would eat it spit it out and then eat it. He past away at the end of the 3rd month. When he died it shocked me because he wasn’t old at all. What did I do wrong with taking care of him? I changed his water weakly, cleaned his toys/decor and fed him properly. I didn’t have a heater (it’s not needed for because my home is perfect temperature) nor did I have a filter. (The pet store worker told me that betta fish don’t require one.). Did my Fish get some sort of sickness? What were the white spots on him? Pls answer I’m thinking of getting another fish but I don’t want to kill it ya know?
Get a sponge filter or a HOB with very low flow, and possibly your water was too warm and made your fish susceptible to disease. Especially since you had no air stone or sponge filter or HOB filter irritating surface water/ getting your betta maximum oxygenation so maybe it had a weak immune system
Quick question, what are your thoughts on sharing a canister filter between two aquariums with t-fittings? I know there's the sharing of water between tanks but beyond that, if my filter can handle the total gallons, what are your thoughts? Thank you for your video.
I think it can work just fine if you can manage the water flow between the two so one tank isn't getting more at the expense of the other one losing water.
I love you're 125 tank I have a 100 running fx6 aqua clear 110 and a marine land 400 it houses 2 osars 10 inch or better 1 armored pleco my tank vision is low how many more fish can I add and what fish I was told I can't add a red fin gourami 10inc is this true I just want life color and movement n my tank my water crystal clear should I ask a polisher
@@PrimeTimeAquatics I added a pleco yesterday so far there fine a store n the area has a fin gourami he said ots okay but more give me the advice of no
So Im building a divider wall for my 150 gallon 6ft tank where u can see both sides of the tank. What do you suggest for a filter A FX6 fluva or just Run 2 MarineLand Magnum Polishing Internal Canister Filter Or do you have another in mind? Also what heater should I us for a 150 tank?
🤔 even if u trying to keep it hidden? It's a dividing wall from my front door & living room. The right side of the tank will be the only part in the wall not exposed
Good morning, we're running a Seachem tidal 75, a Cascade 1000 and a medium sponge filter on our 75 g Tanganyka community and I think after watching this that I need to do away with the canister. To much flow. Do you thik we should add another hob. Mechanical seems to be a bit of an issue and I'm also chasing nitrates with 2 30 to 50% water changes a week I can't seem to get nitrates below 30 to 40ppm. HELP. My water bill is huge.
I don't think switching the filter type will help with the nitrates since traditional media doesn't lower it. However, if a canister filter isn't cleaned often enough it can contribute to more nitrates by storing a lot of waste. The one nice thing about canisters is they have the potential to do better at mechanical compared to a HOB. If flow is an issue with the canister you could either remove it or try adding sponge to the return to slow it down a bit?
I used HOBs, sponges for years and years and years. About 6 months ago I got my first canister and now totally feel stupid I haven’t been using them all this time. They are vastly superior.
I’ve been thinking of switching from sponges to canister. Your comment is 2 years old, so any advice on canisters? Do you still use them? Is he right about them being a chore to clean? Has yours ever leaked? Do you have it in a pan/tray or something to prevent any leaking? Thx.
@@EpicConspiracy just bought my first canister and was looking to see if I should keep or return it. Still on the fence but seeing your comment and the reply 2 years later, I think it gives me more confidence in my decision
I love my canister filters. They are a little more difficult to clean but you have to do it less often. The noise of Hob's drives me nuts. I have had an aqua clear almost empty my 90g on the floor. I do like running smaller tanks on spounge filters.
now I will not buy canister filter. but what about top filter vs hang in the back filter? Have a sobo top filter wp880f. For media I have 2 aquarium sponges, 1 aquarium cotton, one layer of ceramic filters top to bottom and activated carbon to the side, through which the water flows I guess. Water is crystal clean 3 weeks now. Only the top sponge is black which I plan to wash this weekend. Is this better or the hang on??
Thanks for videos very useful actually Using a top mounted filter the same as back mounted filter but with two type of media could be a sponge and another is plastic fiber but i feel that plastic fiber is working better
I think I'll just stick to my fluval 50 honestly, you can get them at any pet store easily even in this current stocking crisis. the media is readily available/convertible, and for a larger tank you can just double up or use even cheaper sponge filters to supplement it. my current fluval motor needs to be kickstarted with a small tool like a dental pick because the motor "stem" dislodged itself, maybe I'll look for something quieter
Do you have a video link for active carbon please? Intending some pH reduction with peat moss. Would like to know if I really need carbon and if incompatible with peat balls. Many thanks guys. Learned so much from your videos. Newbie. Cheers.
I actually don't have any links for carbon (appreciate you checking). I don't use it in any of my tanks. I don't think you need it, but I also don't run peat in my tanks either so I'm probably not the best source. :-)
Should I get a canister filter for my 40 gallon turtle tank? I have 3 turtles in the tank, one that’s about 7 inches, other is 4 inches and the last turtle is a hatchling.
I have never used a canister, and do not plan to. I have a 150g lightly stocked. I agree with about not needing canister level volume for bio loads. You can run two low cost HOBs and maybe a third if you have an old one hanging around and pack one full of floss and change the floss or sponges every two weeks. Will give plenty of surface agitation and keep the tank clear and maint is easy.
Very informative, think I’ll stick to HOB filters for the time being. What are your thoughts on under gravel filters, just asking as my dad used them back in the 70’s and you never see them nowadays 🤓
Thanks for the video, this was exactly what I needed! I am planning a low-boy style tank of similar size as yours (just a bit less deep, 15" instead of 24"). I've been toying with the idea of a mattenfilter on one side to keep it clean looking, but I'm not sure yet, I'm a bit afraid that dirt will settle on the other side. What would you suggest, considering the fish I want (mainly chili rasbora and otocinclus) will be small and not like high flow, so no wavemaker.
No one ever mentions the distance between intake and outtake; thank you. I love canisters myself, but I use all types of filters in my 7 tanks. Each filter type works well and each has it’s niche where it works best. On the subject of sizing canisters filters, I find people tend to buy 3 or 4 or 5 times what they need. The number of fx-6s out there says to me it’s more about bragging then about need. (Not sure what there is to brag about, it’s not like it’s an Eheim... **ducks**) . Anyway, thanks for yet another informative video.
I've had awful experiences with canisters. I've had this one about a year on my 55g with a 6inch Raphael cat, three 4inch clown loaches and a handful guppies. The canister has always been loud, clogs up all the time, doesn't seem to keep the tank clean, and really is a pain to clean out especially when I'm having to do it twice a week or else it has zero flow. I recently switched back to a HOB and 2 sponges, within 24hrs the tank looks nearly spotless.
Love the FX6 on my my bedroom Tank..... .. 6 feet away from my bed ......Ultra Quiet.....Yes I agree ...... Time to cleaning The FX6 ..... I was not Happy. ....... I’ve owned dozens of Canister Filters over Time & The FX6 is The Best. ....... Nothing comes close to it. .......You get what you pay for when it comes to Canister Filters.
So true. I'm not even sure what the recommended time frame is for cleaning canisters. I doing it 4 times a year, or ever three months. The truth is, I don't like cleaning any of the filter options because they're so messy. The sponge filters erupt the second you try to take them out of the tank. Power filters dump waste back in when you pull the pads to replace or rinse them. Canisters are a pain for sure, and they blow waste back in when you fire them back up.
Canister filters or sponge filters only for me. I've had heaps of different canister brands/models over the years but I keep coming back to the Eheim Classic range. So much faster & easier to clean than any other filter I've used.
I got a eheim 4+ an it was a game changer for me i got it for my 60gallion i know its alittle over kill but it has made my life alittle easier an seens i got it the water stay crisp an perfect all around but lol
Yes your right I had the marineland 360 canister it started leaking . Ordered the seal rubber gasket . Was ok for a month. Started leaking again. I worked on it 3 days . Kept leaking . I threw it away. I bought the sun sun 302. It was a pain in the - - s to put together . I ran it 3 weeks the impeller made noise I fixed it . One month later the hose came off and flooded my living room . It cost me 2000 in damage . I will never run a canister filter again. Hob is the way to go I really like the penquin 350 s . I have had one on my 20 gallon in my bedroom for 15 years . I have never ever had a problem. Best to be safe , if you dont want leaks, floods or headaches buy hob filters . You will be glad you read my post.
I like canister filters myself but I only have 3 tanks. They do a great job. A 60, 75 and 125 gallon tank. I run 2 canisters on the 75 and 125 and 1 canister and an hob on the 60. With all the tanks you have there would be so much maintenance you would have to hire a staff to clean your tanks! Stick with air
As long as you have lots of plants and a cycled tank an airstone is sufficient to keep oxygen in your tank and you don't need a filter unless you want a mechanical. But keep in mind your stocking should be way less compared to when you have a bio filter.
Here in the Netherlands Canister filters are the most used ones. I have a JBL1502 canister filter that can do max 350G/H and you cant hear it.. Maintenance is very easy ; once a month clean the prefliter sponges that are in the top. The rest of the filter hardly needs maintenance , maybe once every 6 months. The price of the filter is 160 dollars. I really dont like the ugly sponge filters in a tank and the hang on backs are hardly avaiable here and need quite a lot of space behind the tank and hard to use on tanks that have lids witch are most common here.
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Hi there i need your help please, i have a 10gal tank with a couple of guppies so can i put a Betta in the tank.
hi great video question if you do everything stop air get into canister filter it just don't work do think it time get mew ones I have 2 Marineland canister on 60gal again great video
What brand canister filter was on the lowboy... and leaked?
Canister Filter plus a sponge for the intake. The sponge catches the biggest stuff so you only have to squeeze it out every now and then. I use this for my canister and I have only taken it apart and cleaned it once in the past year and a half. So much easier to squeeze out the intake sponge once in a while then take the whole canister apart. Similar maintenance as a sponge filter.
I need to try this 🤔
Nice idea 💡
Good tip! Do you use a coarse or soft sponge?
Brilliant
@@michaelthomas4249 use a coarse sponge in the intake
I love that your fish room is set up as a room to be in and enjoy the fish; not just a bunch of racks in a highly impersonal space.
I greatly appreciate how you always present information in a positive and informative way. You never come across as “I know everything.”
I run FX series on my 2 larger tanks. I think for many people (myself included) the “prepackaged” options that canister filters provide as opposed to sumps is a big reason people choose canister filters in larger tanks. And certainly the number of tanks a person has running will affect the decisions they make.
Thanks for adding the fish names in the B-roll!
Keep the videos coming!
Thank you! That was one of the goals when we built the fish room - wanted to be able to relax and enjoy the tanks. :-)
Love the canister filters. For my small shrimp tank i'm using a sponge filter. I have been in the hobby for almost fifty years and have seen many changes. Love your videos. Never to old to learn.
Thank you!
A very informative school for thought. I have kept fish since 1975 and have used both internal sponge type filters and cannister. I have used Ehiem cannister filters for the best part of 25 years and find that they do an incredible job both in removing waste and circulating water. I use quick release connector taps which allow for the cannister to be removed quickly and simply. I do not find the cleaning of the media too much trouble however I admit it's a monthly job I do not look forward to doing. I also agree that if you reassemble it incorrectly you'll get a leak which is why after putting the thing back insitu I watch it for the first 10 minutes just in case. I only have the one tank with eight large discus and I think that if you are running just the one tank then a cannister is worth the effort. I generally think your advice is sound but possibly a little too much against the cannister.
That's one satisfying comment due to experience you gone through from 1975
I'm in process of building 300 litres aquarium and i wanted to buy a canister filter with 1500l/h flow. But after watching your channel i think i will go with 2 Aqua Clear 70 hob. 2 times cheaper. Saved me some money Jason, thanks and greetings from Poland ;)
I am doing the same thing Jakub Morawski except I am using two AquaClear 110 gallon hang on back filters. They work great on my 90 gallon tank. Happy Fish keeping.😀
They tell you that you need a water flow, twice or triple the volume of the tank. I don’t believe that is necessarily so. At lest if it’s not a heavy stocked tank. And you have a planted tank. I have a 325l aquarium with a sponge filter and a internal filter in it. They are doing the job, no problem. The filtration hype is real, don’t pay attention to it
But for fishes like cichlids you need canister filter not one but two..they make lot of waste..
I just started my 300 liters amazonic biotope it has a Junzhuang (or something like that) cannister 1500 l/h i was a little skeptical at the beggining but it cost me around 90 dollars including shipping, so I took the risk i gotta tell you it does the job, has 10 litters of capacity, it has 3 kg of ceramic canuts and a lot of sponges and doesnt make any noise, the water is crystal clear and i only do 45 lt water changes everyweek.
If Im THAT happy with a chinnese cannister i cant imagine how efficient a fluval is.
Dude hob are complete trash he’s just saying that cuz he has tons of tanks and he’s lazy of course maintaining multiple tanks would be annoying. canister filters are way better and there cheap online
Never had a canister filter before. Bought a FX6 on Black Friday last year for my 125g that I'll be setting up when I move. I just installed and got it up and running on my 55g ( my current largest tank) to get the BB started and have it ready for my 125g when I go move. I set it in March or April and haven't cleaned it yet. The water in my 55g is more clear than it's ever been. I will be cleaning it at the end of this month and I'm sure it will be tedious and time consuming. I should probably get in the habit of cleaning it at least every two months.
While I agree they are the most time consuming and tedious filters to clean, you don't have to clean them every week. Assuming your running a canister appropriate to the volume of your aquarium and assuming your not highly overstocked, you should only have to clean it once every 2-3 months.
Great video. I have 2 Sun Sun 302s on my 75 and 1 on my 46. Love them. Not top quality, but not expensive and they do a great job of keeping everything clear while not making a sound. Definately a little extra work to clean, but it's part of the process.
Man youve covered almost anything! youre always a go to for my Aquarium info!!! excellent videos! I cant think you enough!
Thank you for being here!
I have a 65 gallon tank with 4 fancy Goldfish...
I had two sponge filters and two HOB, they were working perfect with crystal clear water, only downside was the space the sponges occupied in the tank and the air pump noise made me crazy...
I wished to buy a Canister but didn’t wanted to spend so much...
So I made a DIY 2 feet Tall 4 inch PVC pipe filter with a 1500 lph powerhead...
I put all the media from the two HOB and the two sponges in the pipe with additional Polyfill and Ceramic rings...
I have attached the output to a Top filter outlet pipe with multiple holes, it works like charm abd there is waterfall sound only and no other sound.
Thanks for the video...top notch content as always👍🏻👍🏻
Sounds cool!
Like anything else there is always a time and place for everything. I have a Eheim canister filter on my 75 gal and love it. I have been using the same one for over 25 yrs. A true workhorse. I have used it with sponge filters and hob filters depending on what I keep in the tank.
Absolutely love it.
You guys always make the most informative videos. I was on the fence about using a canister for my 40 breeder but now I am decided. Definitely going to use the canister!
Love your vids. Down to earth advice explaining not everything pricey is suitable.
This and the other video on expensive fish food helped me. Cheers
Thank you!
Love my Sun Sun 704b canister. An inexpensive sponge pre-filter attached over the intake slips off easily for squeeze cleaning and greatly reduces cleaning intervals for the canister to 3 or 4 time a year. It sits nicely inside a 12 gal plastic utility tub bucket with rope handles for easy lifting and any drip catching. A $13 water alarm sensor in the bucket loudly warns of a drip should one occur but never has. Used to have submersible power filters which were a pain. My tank is over stocked so I also run two sponge filters. This system works flawlessly for my 37 gallon.
Agree with you on canisters are good for overstocked tanks
Very good points!
Another good video with a lot of great information.
Professor I don’t have a canister on any of my tanks,but have been thinking of one for my pleco breeding tank you gave me a lot to think about!
I bought a canister 3yrs ago and I love it. Yes when maintenance comes around its annoying, but you only have to clean it every 2 or 3 months and with the canister you can customize your filteration to your needs. I highly recommend!
Canister filters r not my cup of tea. I have personally experienced several with leakage problems. Did everything possible to keep them from doing so to no avail. HOB is in my opinion by far the best in many ways. Price, clean up etc. Jason thanks again for the great video. 👍😎
My favorite set up for my 55 was a canister connected directly to the stacks of an under gravel filter. I alternated the sides where the input and output were on cleaning days.
I used less biological and more filter and polish layers in the canister, because by using the UGs down tubes the entire gravel field became all of the active biological filtration I could want.
As for leaking, the canister was kept in a bucket and checked, cleaned at least monthly with my cleaning, water change and reversing the flow.
The concern over leaking and damaging floors / carpets is a pretty weak one as those floors, near tanks are going to receive drips and splashes constantly already, and worse case tanks can leak also. Anyone that hyper concerned about a leaking canister doing damage, probably shouldn't have tanks there at all.
I’m in love with your lowboy in the background!!!!! 🙏😍
Thank you! 😀
I really am glad i started with your site. Love the pros and cons videos especially. I personally like canister filters but you made super points of alternatives. I probably will always use canisters on my corner tanks if for nothing but getting close to walls. Thanks for sharing 👍
Good point!
Thanks for the comparison, as I was thinking about getting a canister filter or a hang on back ... too much maintenance for my four tanks, I’ll stick with my sponge filters! Love your videos, as you get straight to the point and don’t “waffle on” like so many ... you are very professional. - clear and concise!!! Well done and thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Thank you so much! Appreciate you watching.
Soooo educational man love your videos and I recommend your channel to everyone that I know that keeps fish. Keep up the great content. Greetings from Puerto Rico.
Thank you!
Beautiful crystal clear tanks and fish!!! I’ve never used a canister filter mainly price for me. I’m a budget hobbiest. I’ve always used HOB filters and went to sponge filtration and DIY filters for my ponds with power head pumps and some floating bio media run by air pumps
Thank you! Ya, the price can add up in a hurry. :-)
I have a 40 gallon tank. 4 gold fish right now. I am getting between 6-8 white cloud minnows and 4-6 Kuhli loaches as well as a few live low light plants. I am going to put a large sponge filter in my tank. I was curious if I should also get a filter system like the penguin pro as well? Thank you sir. Your videos are superb and I am subscribed.
Thank you your channel is alot more informative then many others, Still none the wiser what pump best on 75g chichid tank. I use two internal filters and the one the tank came with which is built in. I'll get there but any advise would be appreciated, thank you.
Any thoughts in running an under gravel variation with lots of biohome in bags above it in 1/2 the sump the other 1/2 is planted and everything is in my sump. I replace some cheap filter floss and 1 filter sock so far nitrates are good and doing this with a fairly stocked 225 gal cichlid tank.
Great info for the one trying to decide! Keep up the good work
Thanks! 👍
I have tired all filters and personally prefer canister filters. With HOB and sponge filters I have to clean out every week to 2 weeks. And they are messy. I can never clean a sponge filter without getting a lot of the gunk back in the tank. With a canister filter I can let it run for months. Usually around the 3 month mark I pull it apart replace the filter floss and swipe out my purigen seacham bags. The maintenance is really not that hard at all. I have a fluvial and Eheim canister filters in a 20 Gallon and 17 Gallon high tech tanks. My water has never been clearer, less fish die off and way better flow.
I agree! I use prefilter sponges on my intakes and the gunk just falls back into the tank... I hate it!
USE A BAG AND WRAP IT AROUND THE BOTTOM ND AROUND THE SPONGE then take it out, no mess
I like the relative silence and longer maintenance intervals of a canister filter, and they allow the tank to look a bit more tidy. However, I have hardwood floors and rugs, and am apprehensive about leaks, so I use Seachem Tidal HOBs on my 3 tanks. I over filter by having two HOBs on each tank, so that in the unlikely event one fails, the other filter can still carry the full load of the tank. I don't run these at their full flow rate, but have the flow turned down a bit to approximately 50 percent, so with both running the overall flow is about what one would flow at maximum. The Seachem isn't noisy as long as the water level is kept high (near to top of the surface skimmer intake). It is more audible than most canister filters, but not to a distracting degree. We have a 75 gallon tank in the living room, running 2 Seachem Tidal 110 HOBs, and often watch TV in that room without distraction.
Thank you so much for the information about the canister filter, i almost buy one (sunsun) for my planing 45gallon tank...instead kf caniater filter, what if i run only one AquaClear 70 hang on back will be enough for my tank? Please advise. Thx thx 🙇🏻♂️
That would be plenty
Good info. Just got myself a lowboy myself and wondered if I should get a canister for it or a sponge filter. Definitely not going to go canister filter, but will go with the fluval u4 just to help get some water flow and will be planted and so thst I don't have to worry about leaks.
I started with the canister on our second low boy because I wanted a display feel for the tank. However, my 50 gallon low boy multi tank runs on two sponge filters. Both work fine, just depends on what you want. I did switch out the external canister in the planted lowboy in this video with a small internal canister filter and like that the best so far.
Has a new fish keeper I fell into the Trap of thinking I needed the biggest canister filter I could get I spent $300 on a FX4 that now looking back on it I could have spent in so many better aspects. I could have got a larger tank instead of 75 gallon, I'm embarrassed to admit I bought a Fluval FX4 before I even bought a test kit to test the water. should have bought a cheaper hang on the back of a Sponge Filter and the test kit and still would have had money left over. My advice would be to take a little bit of advice from all the RUclipsrs methods all the way from JLR** aquatics to kg tropics who loves his canisters. Some people like to tare apart there canister once a month so its not a negative to them. Great video!!!!!
Good advice!
Good morning guys.. thanks Jason for some great information.. I've considered a canister for this new tank... But I think I will stick to HOBs.. I've learned so much great information on how to make them so much more efficient and running them with a pre-filter.. this is definitely the route I'll probably go.. and "no need to fix what ain't broke"😂😁 thanks for showing us the names of the fish too... Man they really pretty!! Thanks again and I hope you enjoy and have fantastic weekend!!!❤️🐟🌱🌿🙏
I agree! :-) I just don't have the time to mess with canister filters. Haha
Of all the filters, i prefer the canister filter the most. The reason being, if properly set up, the ten or so minutes it takes to service and clean is well worth the time when you only have to perform the task once every two or three months. The biggest mistake some people do with the CF is to pack them full of filter media and improper sequence of the media. When set up correctly, loss of filtration efficiency isn’t very common. Personally, i like to keep the tank space “clutter” (piping, heaters, skimmers, etc) to a minimum without sacrificing good water flow from end to end of my tank. HOBs are a good option though if I need to polish the water a bit or add some periodic carbon treatment. I use an old Marineland HOT CF for that.
I use Ehiem canisters to pump from one tank to another with overflows back to first tank. I use them also for Sump to tank pumps. Works well and they are quiet.
Interesting idea!
@@PrimeTimeAquatics its a lot of fun! I have 2x120 gals running from sump to tank to tank & back, and a 150 with sump. Then sump #1 overflows to sump #2. I also made an auto filler from a Toilet filler for sump #2. Nice & quiet totally reliable.
What fish is that at 4:50?
That is a Fire Red Apistogramma!
I have 2 penquin 350 bio wheels on my 50 gallon is that over kill or is it good for my tank I do have a lot of fish
2:46 what fish is that on the bottom left?
That is Geophagus altifrons
Great video!👍 I never had a canister filter before but I have always wanted to try one. The only thing that is a big no from me is the leaking problem! I won't be able to sleep at night knowing it could leak anytime or I didn't screw the cap on properly..
It is interesting the differences in the hobby between USA and Europe. The HOB is the default filter of choice for the majority of Americans yet in the UK they are not just out of favour, they are not used at all. I have never seen one in UK and I have just checked several online retailers based in UK and nobody stocks them, not even one. The canister filter reigns supreme in UK.
I would love to give a HOB a try but I can't even do that, not even by importing from US because you are all running on 110 volts, in UK we are at 220-240 volts. I am currently living in Greece and again I have never seen a HOB; I have seen a comment from somebody in Netherlands saying much the same thing, just not used in that part of the world.
I have no explanation for this; if HOBs are as good as it claimed I don't understand why they are not popular across the pond.
Although this video was posted three years ago, it was just what I was looking for as I decide on what filtration to use on my 180 gallon tank.
Awesome!
I love all the information you provide in your videos! I fell like I learn so many new things from you! I do have a question though, where is a good place to get sponge filters? I’ve looked at my local pet stores and they don’t have any!
If you are looking for fine sponges I generally go to Jehmco.com. If you like the coarse sponges Aquarium Coop is a good source. Thanks for watching!
Thank you! Your video helped me to make an informed decision.
Great video! Gonna be doing a100-150 gal native fish tank. pros and cons really helps plan it! Subbed!
Now I have two medium sponge filter and one Fluval hang filter. But is to much space in the aquarium. And I want to buy the delta 60 hang canister filter. How I do the change. I want to keep one sponge filter and the canister, that is ok. And for the substrate I have Little Rock’s but I prefer sand, how I do the change?
Changing the substrate usually means breaking down the tank and starting over again. You can keep the cycled media though.
My favorite filtration system for most tanks is still an undergravel filter with a HOB for some extra mechanical and chemical filtration. Very easy maintenance and unbeatable biological filtration capacity.
I use a Sunsun canister filter and an aqueon HOB on my 110gallon, and am reasonably happy with the results. I dont have a lot of tanks to clean so 15minutes once every two months spent cleaning the canister filter seems a small price to pay.
I have a fluval 203 and cannot find any information on it. I bought a 25 gallon fish tank from someone for 40 bucks came with a stand lights that filter and a maxima air pump. Seen that tag after buying the tanks from 1996. Holding water still just hoping the structure is still there for long term use I don't want it breaking. But any way what is the fluval 203 good for or where can I find information on it
I've never heard of it either?
I am glad i saw this video, I just started the hobby a few months ago and i am using a canister filter at the insistence of my father and it's starting to ruin my enjoyment of the hobby. Including the problems mentioned here, my filter breaks apart every 2-4 weeks and i have problem starting it up (DIY Canister FIlters). As a grown adult, having to call my father to help me start the filter every time it breaks is really eating me up little by little. Now i feel like i either have to give up on Canisters or the hobby itself, glad i am not alone in hating canisters.
So... midnight after writing this comment, my canister's hose disconnected and at least 25 liters of water gushed on the floor and leaked to the lower levels (my aquarium is near the stairs) and i ended up having to mop 2-3 stories at 3 in the morning. I can say, i won't be using canisters for a while.
@@jackfrozr6773 That's why it's sometimes good thing to trust leading brands with millions of positive reviews.
@@dominiktuchowicz7680 I agree, but but you know how dads are with diy obsessions. Good thing i didn't listen to him when he conviced me to make my own aquarium.
@@jackfrozr6773 Many aquarist goes old school way anyway 👍.
What are you running in the low bow for the internal canister?
My two largest tanks are 20 gallons.
I put an eheim ecco pro 2234 on a tank that had a lot of breeding going on.
Now that the breeding has stopped and stocking levels are back to normal, I'm seriously thinking of taking the canister off.
My other 20 is a rimless tank with an eheim ecco pro 2232. I'm not keen on it.
May put the internal filter that came with the tank in and augment with a seeded sponge.
Biggest issue is what to do with all the seeded biomedia.
I'm not sure what the brand is of the filter I'm using. It has no markings and I think it was a raffle prize at a fish meeting a long time ago. Haha
Thanks for the informative video! I’m running 2 aquaclear HOBs (aquaclear 70 and 110) as well as a small sponge filter on my 75 gallon with 30 juvenile African cichlids (haps, mbuna, peacocks). Do you think It would be a good idea to add a canister down the line when my fish grow?
It might be helpful for mechanical filtration, but you will probably have all the biological you need. I run only two sponge filters on my 75 gallon peacock tank with about 20 full grown peacocks and zero issues.
@@PrimeTimeAquatics okay, thanks a lot for your input!
I have a 55gal with 7 gold fish and 2 cat fishes n it and I have a hang on the back filter it can't keep up with them all what do I do get another hang on the back filter or what
You may have to consider moving some of the goldfish out? They can get pretty big!
Unscrew inlet and outlet hose, screw it back.
What happened if it done 4 times or more?
Tiny ”unproperly” screwed, leaking will definitely happen.
In my opinion I like canisters over hob or sponge filters because u can go months before cleaning and it seems I am cleaning my hob and sponges every couple of weeks. Leaking is probably my only fear so I guess it depends on the user personal schedule what works best them. I would and not sure if u have already do a comparison to sumps and pros vs cons
Real quick question not sure if you've already covered this as I haven't watched the video yet but I was curious to know whether or not a canister filter makes the water temperature rise or go down or nothing at All I have a 250 gallon per hour vivo Sun utility pump in 40 gallon aquarium for an axolotl it is then pumped into a refrigerator on 45 minute intervals for 15 minutes and the pump in the tank creates a little too much heat for what I'm going for so I'm trying to find out whether or not a canister pump on the outside of the tank would create more heat or less heat if that makes any sense and in any case if the canister filter is outside the tank draws the water from the tank to the refrigerator and then back into the tank it shouldn't adjust the temperature anyways but I'm not sure whether or not these things run cool or due to the fact that they're not submerged in water they actually draw heat from the outside source thanks
It could create a little heat, but I'm not sure it would impact it a lot?
Youve successfully talked me out of a canister for my new 69 gallon on the rack im building. I will also have 4 additional tanks on the rack, and they will be running sponges. I think I will probably just get a beefy air pump and run them all on sponges, maybe a powerhead for the 69, to increase the flow
Great video. My biggest problem i have with canister filters is bypass, leaks, and if you lose power the good bacteria dies very fast. Even the best canister filter have bypass which to me is a problem.
What would you suggest for a in the tank canister filter for a 36 gal tank that has guppies, mollies, catfish, etc?
I really don't use them much and haven't liked any of the ones I have used - all too hard to maintain and flow really gets slow as they clog.
How high will a regular filter pump
Sir,my 4feet tank i put it on the floor,can the canister filter be use with same height with my tank since my tank is on floor.?..usually people use it on below the tank.
Sure!
Pre filter on a canister filter is the way to go. Cuts down on canister maintenance big time. The FX filters are the best
Noob question, whats FX filter?
@@tanoryjakaperdana1419large fluval canister filter. Its actually on the thumbnail. Fx4, fx5, and FX6
@@darnellc6612 ok
Hi I want to know what happened with my fish. I got him one year ago. The pet store worker said he was 3 or 6 months old and that they usually live for 5 years. My betta was a crowned tail and we got him a pretty big tank (I don’t remember the size) I had him for 3 months. Suddenly, his scales became flaky or her had white bubbles on him? I don’t really remember. Anyways once he gotten that he had very low energy and did this weird thing with his food where he would eat it spit it out and then eat it. He past away at the end of the 3rd month. When he died it shocked me because he wasn’t old at all.
What did I do wrong with taking care of him? I changed his water weakly, cleaned his toys/decor and fed him properly. I didn’t have a heater (it’s not needed for because my home is perfect temperature) nor did I have a filter. (The pet store worker told me that betta fish don’t require one.). Did my Fish get some sort of sickness? What were the white spots on him? Pls answer I’m thinking of getting another fish but I don’t want to kill it ya know?
Get a sponge filter or a HOB with very low flow, and possibly your water was too warm and made your fish susceptible to disease. Especially since you had no air stone or sponge filter or HOB filter irritating surface water/ getting your betta maximum oxygenation so maybe it had a weak immune system
With no filtration tanks you should be doing small water changes daily
Great video as always. ..facts are facts, cons out weigh the pro's. HOB for me and my tanks. Have a great day fish nerds!
Quick question, what are your thoughts on sharing a canister filter between two aquariums with t-fittings? I know there's the sharing of water between tanks but beyond that, if my filter can handle the total gallons, what are your thoughts? Thank you for your video.
I think it can work just fine if you can manage the water flow between the two so one tank isn't getting more at the expense of the other one losing water.
I love you're 125 tank I have a 100 running fx6 aqua clear 110 and a marine land 400 it houses 2 osars 10 inch or better 1 armored pleco my tank vision is low how many more fish can I add and what fish I was told I can't add a red fin gourami 10inc is this true I just want life color and movement n my tank my water crystal clear should I ask a polisher
It might be hard to add fish to that tank only because the Oscars are so big and they are used to having the tank to themselves.
@@PrimeTimeAquatics I added a pleco yesterday so far there fine a store n the area has a fin gourami he said ots okay but more give me the advice of no
So Im building a divider wall for my 150 gallon 6ft tank where u can see both sides of the tank.
What do you suggest for a filter
A FX6 fluva or just Run 2 MarineLand Magnum Polishing Internal Canister Filter Or do you have another in mind?
Also what heater should I us for a 150 tank?
If that were my set-up I would probably go with a couple Marineland Pro 375 HOBs.
🤔 even if u trying to keep it hidden? It's a dividing wall from my front door & living room. The right side of the tank will be the only part in the wall not exposed
Also what heater is best for 150 gallon 72 inch long?
Good morning, we're running a Seachem tidal 75, a Cascade 1000 and a medium sponge filter on our 75 g Tanganyka community and I think after watching this that I need to do away with the canister. To much flow. Do you thik we should add another hob. Mechanical seems to be a bit of an issue and I'm also chasing nitrates with 2 30 to 50% water changes a week I can't seem to get nitrates below 30 to 40ppm. HELP. My water bill is huge.
I don't think switching the filter type will help with the nitrates since traditional media doesn't lower it. However, if a canister filter isn't cleaned often enough it can contribute to more nitrates by storing a lot of waste. The one nice thing about canisters is they have the potential to do better at mechanical compared to a HOB. If flow is an issue with the canister you could either remove it or try adding sponge to the return to slow it down a bit?
Thanks again for great info. 👍🏻
This was really helpful, thank you.
I used HOBs, sponges for years and years and years. About 6 months ago I got my first canister and now totally feel stupid I haven’t been using them all this time. They are vastly superior.
I’ve been thinking of switching from sponges to canister. Your comment is 2 years old, so any advice on canisters? Do you still use them? Is he right about them being a chore to clean? Has yours ever leaked? Do you have it in a pan/tray or something to prevent any leaking? Thx.
@@Whyamiwatching.01 I still only use canisters. I have 5 FX4s and a 406.
@@EpicConspiracy just bought my first canister and was looking to see if I should keep or return it. Still on the fence but seeing your comment and the reply 2 years later, I think it gives me more confidence in my decision
@@BuildsWithV so what did u decided? You keeping it still or gave away?
@@vyshakgowda5183 gonna keep it. Works beautifully
Could you please suggest a suitable filter for a 52 litre goldfish aquarium?
I would probably go with a HOB filter that filters at least 250 liters per hours or 50 gallons per hours?
@@PrimeTimeAquatics thanks, I'll look into it.
I love my canister filters. They are a little more difficult to clean but you have to do it less often. The noise of Hob's drives me nuts. I have had an aqua clear almost empty my 90g on the floor. I do like running smaller tanks on spounge filters.
now I will not buy canister filter. but what about top filter vs hang in the back filter?
Have a sobo top filter wp880f. For media I have 2 aquarium sponges, 1 aquarium cotton, one layer of ceramic filters top to bottom and activated carbon to the side, through which the water flows I guess.
Water is crystal clean 3 weeks now. Only the top sponge is black which I plan to wash this weekend.
Is this better or the hang on??
If you are talking about an overhead sump? Those can be very useful, but also more advanced.
Thanks for videos very useful actually
Using a top mounted filter the same as back mounted filter but with two type of media could be a sponge and another is plastic fiber but i feel that plastic fiber is working better
I think I'll just stick to my fluval 50 honestly, you can get them at any pet store easily even in this current stocking crisis. the media is readily available/convertible, and for a larger tank you can just double up or use even cheaper sponge filters to supplement it. my current fluval motor needs to be kickstarted with a small tool like a dental pick because the motor "stem" dislodged itself, maybe I'll look for something quieter
Do you have a video link for active carbon please? Intending some pH reduction with peat moss. Would like to know if I really need carbon and if incompatible with peat balls. Many thanks guys. Learned so much from your videos. Newbie. Cheers.
I actually don't have any links for carbon (appreciate you checking). I don't use it in any of my tanks. I don't think you need it, but I also don't run peat in my tanks either so I'm probably not the best source. :-)
Great content as always.
Thank you!
Hello, do you have a saltwater tank too? I am very interested and still learning to get one.
I do not. Maybe some day. :-)
Should I get a canister filter for my 40 gallon turtle tank? I have 3 turtles in the tank, one that’s about 7 inches, other is 4 inches and the last turtle is a hatchling.
It would certainly help keep the water looking good!
Would you run a canister filter on a 29gal tank or is that overkill?
I generally don’t like canister filters so I probably wouldn’t consider one unless I had a 210 gallon or larger.
@@PrimeTimeAquatics ok right yes. Good to know. Can easily filter a 29g with a good job filter?
Morning J & J!! Missed you!!
Good morning to you! :-)
I have never used a canister, and do not plan to. I have a 150g lightly stocked. I agree with about not needing canister level volume for bio loads. You can run two low cost HOBs and maybe a third if you have an old one hanging around and pack one full of floss and change the floss or sponges every two weeks. Will give plenty of surface agitation and keep the tank clear and maint is easy.
I plan on trying one when I get my 125 gallon
You should they are the best filters mate
Very informative, think I’ll stick to HOB filters for the time being. What are your thoughts on under gravel filters, just asking as my dad used them back in the 70’s and you never see them nowadays 🤓
I'm not a huge fan because I have so many planted tanks and/or fish that dig, which makes them less useful.
Thanks, will definitely stick with the HOB filters 👍
Thanks for the video, this was exactly what I needed! I am planning a low-boy style tank of similar size as yours (just a bit less deep, 15" instead of 24"). I've been toying with the idea of a mattenfilter on one side to keep it clean looking, but I'm not sure yet, I'm a bit afraid that dirt will settle on the other side. What would you suggest, considering the fish I want (mainly chili rasbora and otocinclus) will be small and not like high flow, so no wavemaker.
I agree - I don't think a matten filter will be adequate for mechanical filtration. A canister would be better.
@@PrimeTimeAquatics Thanks for the reply!
However, your video convinced me to -not- go for a cannister filter :'D
Maybe 2 HoB filters on the ends?
Best advice I ever heard was if you have a tank over 50 gallon then get a canister/sump. If under, then a sponge/HOB/internals will be good enough.
No one ever mentions the distance between intake and outtake; thank you.
I love canisters myself, but I use all types of filters in my 7 tanks. Each filter type works well and each has it’s niche where it works best. On the subject of sizing canisters filters, I find people tend to buy 3 or 4 or 5 times what they need. The number of fx-6s out there says to me it’s more about bragging then about need. (Not sure what there is to brag about, it’s not like it’s an Eheim... **ducks**) . Anyway, thanks for yet another informative video.
I agree - there can be a lot of filter-shaming out there. :-)
I've had awful experiences with canisters. I've had this one about a year on my 55g with a 6inch Raphael cat, three 4inch clown loaches and a handful guppies. The canister has always been loud, clogs up all the time, doesn't seem to keep the tank clean, and really is a pain to clean out especially when I'm having to do it twice a week or else it has zero flow. I recently switched back to a HOB and 2 sponges, within 24hrs the tank looks nearly spotless.
I am only new to this but I selected a canister filter because I have 2 turtles and so only have the tank half filled to give them a dry area.
Love the FX6 on my my bedroom Tank..... .. 6 feet away from my bed ......Ultra Quiet.....Yes I agree ...... Time to cleaning The FX6 ..... I was not Happy. ....... I’ve owned dozens of Canister Filters over Time & The FX6 is The Best. ....... Nothing comes close to it. .......You get what you pay for when it comes to Canister Filters.
Thank you!
I agree. The reason I have a canister, is because it's silent. My aquarium is in my bedroom, and I don't like sounds while sleep time. 👍🏻
So true. I'm not even sure what the recommended time frame is for cleaning canisters. I doing it 4 times a year, or ever three months.
The truth is, I don't like cleaning any of the filter options because they're so messy. The sponge filters erupt the second you try to take them out of the tank. Power filters dump waste back in when you pull the pads to replace or rinse them. Canisters are a pain for sure, and they blow waste back in when you fire them back up.
I think I just need a robot to clean my filters. :-)
@@PrimeTimeAquatics LOL! If you figure out how to make that happen, ya gotta let me know!
Canister filters or sponge filters only for me. I've had heaps of different canister brands/models over the years but I keep coming back to the Eheim Classic range. So much faster & easier to clean than any other filter I've used.
I got a eheim 4+ an it was a game changer for me i got it for my 60gallion i know its alittle over kill but it has made my life alittle easier an seens i got it the water stay crisp an perfect all around but lol
I only got two tank to take care of also
Yes your right I had the marineland 360 canister it started leaking . Ordered the seal rubber gasket . Was ok for a month. Started leaking again. I worked on it 3 days . Kept leaking . I threw it away. I bought the sun sun 302. It was a pain in the - - s to put together . I ran it 3 weeks the impeller made noise I fixed it . One month later the hose came off and flooded my living room . It cost me 2000 in damage . I will never run a canister filter again. Hob is the way to go I really like the penquin 350 s . I have had one on my 20 gallon in my bedroom for 15 years . I have never ever had a problem. Best to be safe , if you dont want leaks, floods or headaches
buy hob filters . You will be glad you read my post.
I’m sorry that happened! Even a few gallons of water on a floor is a lot more than people realize!
I like canister filters myself but I only have 3 tanks. They do a great job. A 60, 75 and 125 gallon tank. I run 2 canisters on the 75 and 125 and 1 canister and an hob on the 60. With all the tanks you have there would be so much maintenance you would have to hire a staff to clean your tanks! Stick with air
As long as you have lots of plants and a cycled tank an airstone is sufficient to keep oxygen in your tank and you don't need a filter unless you want a mechanical. But keep in mind your stocking should be way less compared to when you have a bio filter.
You don't even need an airstone, they actually do nothing except circulate the water a bit. You can just use powerheads
Here in the Netherlands Canister filters are the most used ones.
I have a JBL1502 canister filter that can do max 350G/H and you cant hear it.. Maintenance is very easy ; once a month clean the prefliter sponges that are in the top. The rest of the filter hardly needs maintenance , maybe once every 6 months. The price of the filter is 160 dollars.
I really dont like the ugly sponge filters in a tank and the hang on backs are hardly avaiable here and need quite a lot of space behind the tank and hard to use on tanks that have lids witch are most common here.
Love fluvel fx6 have 2 of them on a 150 discus
After i clean my filter i run it in my yard using a bucket, that way i know the oring seal is good. Less mess and zero spill in the house