≪HOLOEN CIVIL WAR: COFFEE VS TEA≫ The Great Debate w/ Hololive English
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Today will be the day we settle this debate once and for all.
Team Coffee
@HakosBaelz @KosekiBijou @holoen_raorapanthera
Team Tea
@holoen_ceciliaimmergreen @CeresFauna @NerissaRavencroft
Judges:
@NinomaeInanis @IRyS @ShioriNovella
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I feel like Fauna was sitting through the first three presentations thinking "Oh... were my arguments supposed to lack rational basis?"
"I am cute. Nyes" was quite convincing
Average Fauna yapping.
To be fair, she carry the tea team argument.
...which, damnit! I am in coffee team!
Fauna really brought the facts and bae responded with TL;DR
She is such a cute nerd.
Bae: 10/10 Election Speech + Presentation
Cecilia: Fearmongering for Justice!
Biboo: "Trust me, bro"
Fauna: Scientific Presentation
Raora: *Diss track*
Nerissa: Coffee survivor flashbacks
this is surprisely a very accurate summary of their presentations.
Bro, you made me spit out my drink (Team WATER!). These are very accurate.
That diss track. Man.
Team tea had some brilliant counter responses, they were making notes while team coffee was kind of self sabotaging after Bijou came out for team milk and Raora was all about espresso. lol
@@Madhattersinjeans i mean expresso is just stronger coffee... but Bijou really didn't help coffee at all xD she was just arguing for milk
@28:17 lmao Biboo accidentally liking tea a bit too much than she expected
She did say she likes both so
Loved how iRys summarized all that happened really well. . .she actually listened to everything attentively from the start to finish. . .
She was locked in 😂
She was a great judge. It makes me think she'll be a good debater too
Well she is the perfect balance of dark and light canonically so it checks out.
@@Krmiby Well it sounds like she was on a debate club in the past so it's not surprising.
Cant be the true yapper when you cant listen to someone else's yap
No matter who wins, all our sleep schedules lose.
Finally, the voice of reason
team coffee brewed, but Fauna COOKED😅
@@Kiara.step-daughterunderrated comment
So real 😎 😎
@@Cunningstunts23 lol thank you ☺️
52:45 Nerissa: Coffee is "bean juice."
Kronii: "Tea is leaf juice."
Blue Woman moment
Next time on HoloEN Civil War.
Pineapple Pizza!
Come now. We don't want this turning into a Civil War like Marvel's...
We need something where everyone fights each other, and releases polite but firm diss tracks against each other (sparked by a Calli diss track against someone, of course).
Oooh i have stories about about pineapple pizza… that word and the word pizza toppings are banned in all the guilds im in. The pizza toppings discussion is far more heated then anything political. Smart guilds and gaming groups ban that topic for life!
Yes pineapple vs fries pizza.
@@blackjacktrial No Fighting, only Talking.
SHE ACTUALLY MADE A WEBSITE LMAO
I love this Dollwoman
"hot teas in your area"
*TIMESTAMPS* (YAGOO Video: 1:26:20)
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*[MAIN SECTIONS]*
4:18 Start! / Introductions!
13:23 - *Bae’s* Coffee Argument
19:18 - *Cecilia’s* Tea argument
26:22 - *Bijou’s* Coffee Argument
36:26 - *Fauna's* Tea argument
41:42 - *Raora’s* Coffee Argument
48:17 - *Nerissa’s* Tea Argument
56:41 *Closing statements!*
1:03:02 The Judges overall Thoughts
1:14:29 Judge deliberations
1:22:47 *FINAL VERDICT:*
1:29:32 Everyone's’ Final Thoughts
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*FULL TIMESTAMPS* (Compilation in Replies)
*-[Introductions!]-*
*[Welcome!]*
4:18 Start! “You’re Going Down!”
4:36 Welcome to the holoEN Civil War!
4:45 - *Bae!*
5:02 - *Cecilia!*
*[THE TEAMS]*
5:43 _(Team Coffee)_
┣6:08 - *Bijou!* spilling the tea: Coffee! Is better!
┗7:00 - *Raora!* “Coffee is love, Coffee is life”
7:35 _(Team Tea)_
┣7:49 - *Fauna!* “You can’t spell team without Tea!”
┗8:28 - *Nerissa!* ‘They hated me because I was right”
*[THE JUDGES]*
9:18 Introducing the Judges!
9:34 Intro video!
10:14 - *IRyS!* “My blood is Carbonated, and I am filled with love. I represent team _Soda!”_
10:53 (holoEN by the way)
11:08 - *Ina!* “I was recruited here as a judge under the title of… _ Cookie Connoisseur!”_
12:05 - *Shiori!* “I am knows as the water whipper wet Witch” / The BleachBlaster!”
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*ROUND 1 ARGUMENTS*
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*--[BAE’S COFFEE ARGUMENT]--*
13:06 “You're Going DOWN!!”
13:23 "As Team Coffee, I would like to begin this debate..."
13:36 Thee is a *Jury Poll!*
*[Opening Slide]*
13:46 START!
13:59 *Slide1:* Be better. Drink that coffee. *(1)*
14:24 "Today I Will prove to you all that coffee is without doubt better than tea!"
14:39 *Slide 2:* Coffee drinkers experience life on an _Elevated level!_
*[Coffee Flavour!]*
14:51 - *Coffee Teaches you about Flavour!* There are over 120 types of coffee beans!
15:23 Coffee doesn't need to Rely on _other_ ingredients..
15:31 *Slide 3:* people Often Complain coffee is bitter.. For their tongues are uncultured! Unloved!”
15:55 Be better. Drink that coffee. *(2)*
*[Getting scientific: Coffee = Increased Focus!]*
16:02 (Dr. Oopsie!?) Coffee has one magical substance
16:22 *Slide: 4* Take yourself back... It's first period, What is the only thing that will wake you up?
17:02 Some people don’t need caffeine... But Us *PLEABIANS* need the B00ST!"
17:16 Those elite are NOT TEA drinkers! *Multiple times the caffeine:* (2x Black tea and 3x green tea!)
17:41 Be better. Drink that coffee. *(3)*
*[Coffee is versatile!]*
17:48 - Coffee is not only a magical drink, coffee Enhances all spheres of life! Great for *cooking!*
18:06 - Coffee is a *Beauty Ingredient!*
18:28 - "Coffee Grounds act as an amazing *Homemade Fertilizer!* coffee can be used to elevate the very tea lives team tea is trying to sell you!"
18:52 Be better. Drink that coffee. *(4)*
19:01 _"TOGETHAAAAA"_
*--[CECILIA'S TEA ARGUMENT]--*
19:14 Giving the Floor to Team Tea:
19:34 “Objection! Heresy!“
20:05 *"I will talk about Why Coffee S*cks."*
*[Bitter]*
20:30 120 Flavors.. of _bitter_
20:49 Bitter = Poison
21:13 NO adding sugar
*[Addictive and dangerous!]*
21:23 Why coffee is a Danger!
22:00 *Q:* Honour IRyS, theoretically if you were hit by a car you would die?
22:30 *Q:* Honour Ina, Would you Die? *Ina:* I’d.. have to think about it.
22:53 *Q:* Honour Shiori, would you Die? *Shiori:* I'd get isekai'd
*[COFFEE DRIVING]*
23:09 *Video:* RIP Judges…
23:30 *TRAGEDY STRUCK*
23:52 “ Can’t believe a new souls game just Dropped” - ina
24:05 *FACT:* 1 out of 5 Coffee drinkers spontaneously Combust!
24:53 Conclusion: Stand with tea, stand for Justice!”
*[Post Round 1 Review]*
25:03 Judges Thoughts?
25:37 Nominating The next Speakers
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*ROUND 2 ARGUMENTS*
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*--[BIJOU'S COFFEE ARGUMENT]--*
26:22 *Biboo:* "Judges you look very pretty this morning" *Fauna:* "relevancy your honour?"
26:33 START!
*[Why Biboo is a credible source]*
26:52 Eliminating Bias
27:05 - Biboo enjoys _BOTH_
27:26 - I am Cute.
*[Biboo’s smile! :D]*
27:34 My :D when I taste Tea
27:50 The dimensions of her :D when she drinks tea VS coffee
28:16 *Biboo Self Sabotage..*
*[The Effect of Tea on Biboo]*
28:52 Start
29:02 Tea = EEP
29:06 Coffee = SPEEN + YEET
*[SIGMA BEAN]*
29:51 1500 Types of teas *Vs* SIGMA BEAN
30:28 *_AKshually_*Coffee is a Fruit SEED
*[SNIFF TEST]*
30:45 Today Biboo prepared both Coffee and tea to sniff!
31:09 *SNIFFA*
31:26 Biboo’s conclusion: _Coffee Smells better._
*[Coffee FACTS]*
32:08 Has Fiber
32:18 More Caffeine VS tea
32:25 You look _Cooler_ Brewing Coffee
32:57 Antioxidants + Reduces Risk of Dying!
*[TIER LIST]*
33:23 The definitive Coffee and Tea Taste Tier List
33:55 *(Ina Shakes her head.. )*
*[Conclusion]*
34:20 Milk Makes Everything better! *(MILK = Man I Love Koseki)*
34:52 _Click to Add Title_
*[MILK REBUTTAL]*
35:12 *CC:* "Basically you're saying you're Team _MILK.."_
35:30 *Fauna:* "It seems to me Tea without milk was Higher than coffee without Milk…"
35:54 *Fauna Burn:* "Go drink your milk and Go back to SLEEP!"
*--[FAUNA’S TEA ARGUMENT]--*
*[Mother Nature’s Chemistry Class]*
36:25 Start!
36:41 The Animno acid *l Theanine*
37:01 - Neurostimulation effects!
37:25 - Antagonizes caffeine!
37:33 - + Dopaminine and Serotonin!
37:54 - + Alpha brain wave Activity!
38:09 "But Coffee tastes better!"
38:28 *Fauna:* "Won't someone think about Amino Acids?"
38:47 *Fauna Can repeat it…*
*[ORDER IN THE COURT!]*
39:02 *Bae Burn:* "Just like tea.. The speakers of team tea put me to sleep.."
39:13 *Biboo Burn:* “We need coffee to wake us up from that speech..”
39:22 *Nerissa* Seems like Team coffee is SO distracted…
39:53* Ina:* "ORDER IN THE COURT!”
*[Post Round 2 Review]*
40:17 L theanine / Biboo’s MILK argument is all they can remember..
40:45 Ina and shiori are also both leaning towards Tea…
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*ROUND 3 ARGUMENTS*
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*-[RAORA'S COFFEE ARGUMENT]-*
*[Comparisons!]*
41:42 Start!
42:00 Burns fat like a Boss!
42:27 Stronger Flavour!
42:42 The choice of Champions!
42:58 Shot glass!
43:18 Cool cafes are everywhere! *VS Grandma's Tea Time...*
*[MUCHO TEXTO / SKIPPA SKIPPA]*
43:38 ESPRESSO >>>>>>
44:46 *Ina in chat:* She’s just like my professor FR FR
44:59 *AKShually..* Did you know...
45:49 Antioxidant levels "This is FACTS!"
46:05 Mental Health!
46:27-47:47 *Raora’s COFFEE RAP!*
*--[NERISSA'S TEA ARGUMENT]--*
48:17 Start! / Destroy her!
*[Refuting Team coffee’s past arguments]*
48:35 “I do not need slides, because I am right.”
48:48 Cafes = Consumerism!
49:01 *Do you hate your FAQ'ing grandmother Raora?*
49:35 Tea can also be bitter.. If you enjoy that
50:07 Frappuccino
50:41 “If you have to drink coffee cause it makes you “adult” your insecure”
*[Nerissa’s Coffee Past...]*
51:00 Nerissa Used to be a… *Coffee Addict!*
51:30 *Biboo:* "So you're just Weak?
51:51 *Bae:* Objection! hersey!
52:08 *Raora:* Skippa Skippa..
52:31 Decaf? Just to drink Bitter bean Juice? "You’re cr@zy!"
52:59 Raora X Nerissa Tee tee
*[Post Round 3 Review]*
53:41 Start
54:13 Feeling the passion!
54:42 Can Raora do the Rap in Italian?
56:18 *Raora’s Coffee new Rap~!*
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*CLOSING STATEMENTS*
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*[Appealing to The Judge’s Biases]*
56:41 Cecelia Represents Tea!
57:24 What’s Closer to Soda? / Objection there is also carbonated coffee!
57:51 *CHAOS..*
58:10 "Tea tastes like Nothing!”
58:30 *Shiori:* As a member of *Team bleach* coffee is closer to bleach!
58:58 IRyS can’t imagine carbonated coffee tasting good
59:10 What would you rather dip your Cookie into? *Ina:* i don't Dip my Cookies..”
*[Bribing the Judges]*
59:38 Team Tea offers a Tea Party!
1:00:07 Afternoon Tea
1:00:21 *GOTTEM: * "The last time I went to afternoon tea I ordered coffee” - Biboo
1:00:44 Tiramisu
1:00:57 *Raora:* “Objectively no one likes macha..” *Fauna:* "How dare you say the to the greens"
1:01:20 *Biboo:* "Macha tastes like Grass" *Rissa:* "That just means YOU have an unrefined palette you little baby…"
*[Whose information was more reliable?]*
1:01:43 Calling out CC’s Source
1:02:20 Comparing “personal Studies”
1:02:42 *Fauna’s life is **_not enough..._*
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1:03:02 *THE JUDGE'S CLOSING THOUGHTS*
*[IRyS Overall Thoughts]*
1:03:29 Every side gave very “unique” Arguments
1:03:55 *CC’s* Very Negative Campaign
1:04:43 Coffee Driving
1:05:12 *Biboo’s* arguments of studies based on herself
1:05:30 *Fauna's* argument Was very smart I had to wear my glasses..”
1:06:11 *Raora’s* Rap, + Text amount
1:06:36 *Nerissa’s* Slap Backs
1:06:58 IRyS was surprised no one talked about *_Scent…_*
*[Objections!]*
1:08:20 "So what you're saying is you don’t care about the judge's opinion?"
1:08:51 *SKILL ISSUE:* / objection! The other team is mean!
*[Ina Overall Thoughts]*
1:09:42 Start
01:10:02 (Ina HoloEN By the way)
01:10:21 “No matter the outcome today, I will respect both choices…”
01:10:47 *LACTOSE INTOLOERANT = SKILL ISSUE?* / Ina likes both her Coffee and tea Black
1:11:18 *CC:* Biboo your arguments are confusing!
*[Shiori's Overall Thoughts]*
1:11:48 Start
1:11:58 *The Chaos"* “You have to Live life on edge to appreciate the fact you didn't Explode that day”
1:12:26 The topic of Afternoon tea triggered her trauma..
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*(CONTINUED IN THE REPLIES)*
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*FULL TIMESTAMPS PART 2*
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*JUDGE DELIBERATIONS + VERDICT*
1:14:29 *Shiori:* Alright judges.. You come here often?"
1:14:35 *IRyS:* I’m glad I didn't have to use this *gun*
1:14:43 *Shiori:* "I like the chaos of coffee.. I don't even drink coffee" / Shiori sometimes drinks tea
1:15:03 Team tea dared to lie…
1:15:30 Afternoon tea is expensive, but it’s a bonding experience..
1:15:52 *TEAM ALCOHOL!!* *Lets go!*
1:16:17 When it comes to alcohol, you _can_ be team alcohol _and_ team tea…
1:16:42 Is there Alcoholic Coffee?
1:17:18 *Ina explains why She is Team tea*
1:17:34 Tea beauty Products
1:18:21 *What Team tea should have also covered*: if you're having a hard time going to the bathroom. Coffee definitely helps!
1:18:41 *Papa'nis' knowledge:* Why bathroom lines longer around lunch…
1:19:02 Coffee Health benefits / erased by Milk and Sugar..
1:19:24 *Shiori:* IF people get addicted to coffee that’s *good for the economy!*
1:20:02 IRYS is leaning towards Team tea
1:20:25 Ina also goes with Team tea
1:20:26 Shiori Is team coffee
1:21:00 Team alcohol is an option
1:21:08 IRyS is their leader, she’s the one with the gun!
*[FINAL VERDICT]*
1:21:20 *RIGGED:* "I have tea on my Desk right now” - IRyS
1:21:42 Ina made both drinks, but only finished one: Tea.
1:22:45 *FINAL VERDICT:* TEA!!
1:23:09 *Ina:* “We will celebrate this win by putting Tea leaves in coffee”
*[WAS IT RIGGED?]*
1:23:28 They admitted their own Bias!
1:23:40 _"AKSHUALLY…"_
1:24:04 Team coffee losses with -by calling it rigged- “grace”
1:24:39 Team *Alcohol?*
*[POLL RESULTS]*
1:25:04 Jury Poll
1:25:26 Ending Poll:
*Tea* = 50%
*Coffee* = 49%
Total votes: *52K*
*[YAGOO!]*
1:25:58 A Video for the Secret 4th Judge!
1:26:20 *VIdeo:*
1:26:32 Introduction
1:26:42 Yagoo Drinks Coffee more often...
1:26:57 At night teas is better!
1:27:08 What does Yagoo think about the battle?
1:27:26 *FINAL OPINION:* Either is fine
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*ENDING/ FINAL THOUGHTS*
1:27:50 Thank you everyone!
1:28:01 More Civil War episodes?
*[Thanks to everyone who Helped with the production]*
1:28:30 Thumbnail: Thank you *Daaku!*
1:29:02 Logo: Thank you *Spiritsnare!*
1:29:06 Video editing: Thank you *Nekomikuri*
*[JUDGE'S Final Thoughts]*
1:29:16 Start
1:29:32 - IRyS! "
1:29:43 Stream Assets: Thank you *Eden Exile!*
1:30:06 Memories of School Days?
1:30:57 STREAM CARBONATED LOVE!
1:31:11 - Ina!
1:31:40 - Shiori!
*[Speaker's Final Thought's]*
1:32:33 - Raora!
1:33:18 - Bijou!
1:34:04 - Nerissa!
1:34:53 - Fauna!
1:35:00 - Cecilia!
1:34:16 Tea won! Yay…
1:35:28 - Bae!
*[ENDING]*
1:36:27 Advent 3D Debuts!
1:37:08 Thank you everyone!
1:37:31 *OTSU CIVIL WAR!*
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i don't know how you do this
but it's remarkable work
*COMPILATIONS*
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*[REBUTTALS / BURNS]*
49:01 *"Do you hate your FAQ'ing grandmother Raora?"*-> (Referencing 43:18)
35:12 *CC:* "Basically you're saying you're Team _MILK.."_
35:30 *Fauna:* "It seems to me Tea without milk was Higher than coffee without Milk…"
35:54 *Fauna Burn:* "Go drink your milk and Go back to SLEEP!"
39:02 *Bae Burn:* "Just like tea.. The speakers of team tea put me to sleep.."
39:13 *Biboo Burn:* “We need coffee to wake us up from that speech..”
39:22 *Nerissa* Seems like Team coffee is SO distracted…
51:30 *Biboo:* "So you're just Weak?
51:51 *Bae:* Objection! hersey!
52:08 *Raora:* Skippa Skippa..
1:02:42 *Fauna’s life is **_not enough..._*
1:08:20 *Bae:* "So what you're saying is you don’t care about the judge's opinion?"
1:08:51 *SKILL ISSUE:* / objection! The other team is mean!
*[FUN FACTS!]*
14:51 - There are over 120 types of coffee beans!
17:16 Coffee hasMultiple times the caffeine of tea: (2x Black tea and 3x green tea!)
20:30 - Those flavours are 120 Flavors.. of _bitter_
24:05 *100% TRUE:* 1 out of 5 Coffee drinkers spontaneously Combust!
36:41 The Animno acid *l Theanine*
┣37:01 - Neurostimulation effects!
┣37:25 - Antagonizes caffeine!
┣37:33 - + Dopaminine and Serotonin!
┗37:54 - + Alpha brain wave Activity!
44:59 *AKShually..* Did you know...
┗45:49 Coffee’s increases Antioxidant levels "This is FACTS!"
┣46:05 Coffee benefits Mental Health!
*[VIDEOS]*
9:34 *Video:* Judge Introductions!
23:09 *Video:* RIP Judges…
1:26:20 *VIdeo:*YAGOO!
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Thanks for the breakdown 😮
A Fauna ASMR talking about tea facts or any sort of research is something I didn’t know I needed
Cecilia really made a website for this and didn't even have them pull it up on stream. Just pure dedication to the bit
Coffee would actually have won, if 20% of us hadn't spontaneously combusted! o7 in memory of our fallen warriors
Ski.. wait I mean, beverage issue.
The thing is, CC doesn't even need to drink coffee to run someone over.
😂😂😂
FOR JUSTICE
Truth is, the game was rigged from the start (team coffee is currently roadkill)
I have to say Fauna's speech was a great addition to cc's very scientific and unbiased "you have a 20% chance of exploding on the spot when you drink coffee"
More Civil War topics:
1. Best Sleeping position
2. Pineapple on Pizza
3. Mint Chocolate? or No?
4. Milk before Cereal? or Cereal before Milk?
5. PC versus Console
I’m late but add: Gaming with keyboard or controller?
Fauna should be judge in future "civil war" ep.
I too do believe 💯
The holoEN community will never recover from this conflict
This is so sad, Alexa play Connect the World.
Permanent discourse that will last as long as Hololive does lol
It was the perfect chaos that Bae is in complete mix with.
Another mighty chaos rat stream
It is unbelievable that all this started because of debut streams.
We're truly blessed
I love the way they have distributed the two teams with a member from each generation to argue which side they represent. Bae Vs Fauna, Roara vs Cece, Biboo vs Rissa.
Then ofc the non biased divorced wife Irys, Advent Leader Shiori, and the one and only priestess herself from the first generation Ina wah!
Beautifully done and definitely a note worthy stream for EN 😂
Well observed, man they thought of everything!
Non-biased Divorced Wife. Love it.
Shoulda have cali as well xD considering she's team water.
I didn't expect Raora to turn into a wrestler, but here we are
Roara doing the wwe promo run.
Yagoo showed true leadership by pre-emptively putting out the fire with a personal video response that defused the entire civil war. 😂
wait he did?
@@timoth4529 Three words: "Either is fine."
True leader we need so much these days. YAGOO for president!
1:26:10, the fourth judge weighs in.
Best girls judgement is: "...either one fine?"
Then there's Kaela sipping on her Bittergourd Juice
It’s good though
need to try it
Past kaela will be choosing side on coffee team, but new kaela will be a judge as a weird drink enjoyer.
remember chat: since they had a debate They all hate each other forever now. 💔
No, Yagoo said both win so they are forced to have peace cause best girl ( basically ) said so
Yerp
JAAAAAAA
ja ja ja
Is this a Tectone reference?
33:57 unbiased reaction from black-coffee enjoyer Judge Ina
Coffee team really be having that Among Us with Biboo.
This is honestly one of the funniest collabs I've seen in awhile. All of the girls where just let off their chains and it was brilliant
英語を勉強している途中なので全てを一回で聞き取る事は出来なかったけど凄い面白かった！
もっと勉強して一度でこの議論全てを理解出来る位の英語力を身につけたい
Thanks Bae and Ceci for coming up with this stream idea, it was very fun. The idea of more Holo debates sounds very fun to me!
Coffee team: There's an imposter among us.
the spy has already breached our defenses
you've seen what he has done to our colleges
@@HololiveSimpostingClips tbf, nothing beats Boba tea lol
Milk team succeeded at infiltrating the defense 😂
Biboo almost threw this debate 😅
I watched the VOD and prepared some iced instant coffee while watching it. The RAORAP was amazing!!! Best of all YAGOO made the wisest answer to this debate!
Go team water!
The absolute gold that is the Kingdom Hearts-esque opening bgm and Ina acting as the overseer.
I can’t believe we got to see Organization Caffeeine fight the wielders of the Tea-Blade.
i was instantly reminded of "a fight to death" with a bit of "darkness of the unknown" from kh2. great, that i'm not the only one who had that feeling!
love these chaotic and creative EN streams, haven't one in a while!
I always drink coffee in the morning to jumpstart the day, a bottle of cold tea from minimart at noon then a soda after workout in the evening and finally a beer before sleep. I guess I’m everyone team then😂
Really love to see this kind of big collab from EN. Keep it coming girls.
This is the collab content we need. More civil war stuffs please.
Yagoo san at the end was like "THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED"
What even are these judges- irys who likes soda which has caffeine didn't choose and dosen't even make coffee which has caffeine, shiori who dosen't even drink cofee that often, and ina who mainly drinks tea. BIASED. Coffee wins- best girl yagoo said he drank cofee more.
This might have to go into the record and history books as one of the most heated debates in the world.
Also, love you Rat but, Team Tea :)
The echos of the Johnny Depp defamation trial can still be felt. "Objection! Heresy!" Was definitely funny.
The stream was hilarious. But what struck me while watching it is: this entire debate is basically alcohol replacement that people drank to socialize versus an ancient medicinal mixture
How very applicable, especially in this day and age. Excellent stream.
To think this could have been solved if they all listened to Java Jive by The Ink Spots (they did alot of the famous music that got put in fallout, they were from the mid 30's i think.)
I love 12:35 how the cute Little Rock’s window wiper stands out in the sea of laughter
While everyone in Hololive is already funny enough on a spontaneous basis, this just keeps showing how much more they can pull out of their hat if they get the proper chance to fully prepare. Absolute powerhouses.
Man I love nerd Fauna.
And team tea 4ever!
MILNF
The debate of the century. I laughed, I cried, I was on the edge of my seat
Don’t drink either, but I’m going tea because I found their presentations both more engaging and convincing.
Whoever decides to match up Biboo to Fauna was drinking Alcohol 😂
We need the HOLOEN CIVIL WAR: PINEAPPLE VS NOT PINEAPPLE (on pizza).
35:33 fauna you might be on to something
Absolute cinema
Honestly what a fun stream ! Just look at that presentation slides Lol
BUT COFFEE AND TEA ARE NOT POSSIBLE IF NO WATERR!!
The debate aside .... can we talk about how well this was made and organized??? In such a short time
This Stream is easily getting into one of the most legendary hololive moments ever
Real
Absolutely legendary stream. I love that despite all stereotypes about being relaxed people, Team Tea had basically no chill
Coffee drinkers deserve no chill
I was almost swayed when Ceci threw the judges into oncoming traffic but as soon as Raora went full rap god mode I knew team coffee was the real winner in our hearts even if the judges didn't agree
Thank you so much for putting this together, I was dying from laughter the entire collab and I hope we get a sequel in the future!
Bro nerissa also dominates
@@aozora_whiteclouds GWS
Raora had to rely on Chat GPT, winner by default = tea
Thank you Bae for setting this up! Such a fun stream! Lots of great debates and presentations by everyone. Hope we can see more! Also congrats to Team Tea!
The holoen civil war has so many seasons, this might be one of my favorite ones next to jokeronii
Thanks for the hilarious collab guys! I fell out of my chair multiple times this stream😂 Especially during CC's debate. But everyone was so funny and lots of yapping. Hololive definitely hired comedians instead of idols.
My analysis of each case
Bae: Very well rounded and full of energy. A great opening to the debate
Cecilia: I can respect the teamwork of relegating a part of the case to be handled by each individual member and focusing on attacking coffee as a response to Bae's opening was a very well timed move. However, I'm a bit worried about the specious reasoning used for many of the arguments she used especially at the end. I've done a lot of independent research on the website Cecilia used and discovered that it not only lacks any sort of peer-review, but is a study funded by Big Tea and there has been no attempt to replicate it what so ever. Very sus.
Biboo: Easily the weakest argument of the night. Most of it was subjective opinions based around the assumption that she could coast on her cuteness, but even that can only get you so far when you start shilling for drinks that are not coffee.
Fauna: I didn't really understand a lot of what she said, but it sounded very smart and was said very confidently. It also fit in very well with Cecilia's strategy of divvying up the arguments. Easily the strongest argument of the night.
Raora: There were hints of points (especially at the end) that, if expanded upon, could have served as a counter to Fauna's argument but in language the audience could actually understand. Unfortunately, the points weren't organized very well (especially with the tangent about espresso being phrased in a way that hurts the coffee side when it could have been used to bolster it quite effectively) and the rap at the end seemed like unnecessary pandering.
Nerissa: Probably the weakest argument on Team Tea. If it weren't for the strong case already established by Cecilia and Fauna prior this could have easily sunk Team Tea. Nerissa's refusal to structure her points makes it seem like she's throwing random things at the wall just to see what sticks. Likewise the point that was ultimately focused on was one that was ultimately already covered by Cecilia prior.
I wanted Team Coffee to win coming into this, but I must begrudgingly admit that Team Tea clearly won.
This was an amazing collab but also enlightening as well. The debate was entertaining. I'm on the neutral side. Thanks for the Civil War collab, Bae.
"...And when the world needed him Most...Judge Magni vanished..."
48:30 "Destroy her you mutant! DESTROY HER!" was so funny
She actually said "you're muted" not mutant.
cecilia was saying "destroy her (you're muted)" as in her mic was muted. but funny regardless!
bro heard "mutant" 💀
A certified Warhammer 40K moment!
lol MUTED that makes more sense. My tired brain thought it was because she’s a demon/raven hybrid
If there is someone in HoloEN who'd be a good at debating, i feel like Kiara, is very really argumentative, along with Gura, Kronii, and Mumei. I really hoped the viewers will get a chance to witness that debate if it will ever come and if they could find something to debate about 😂😂
This stream is very fun even tho i only got to watch the VOD 😂😂
Yea, the ultimate conclusion:
Drink whatever the heck you want.
But also tea won, as it should be
I am finally catching up to this great Debate.
This is fantastic. My goodness.
This is pretty funny lol, thanks for the amazing and creative stream!
I was definitely really confused when 2 of coffee's 3 coffee team were arguing against coffee. Biboo with her closing statement that milk makes everything better, and Raora specifically making points why Espresso is better than black coffee... Raora, you weren't supposed to fight against other types of coffees! It was fun nonetheless
I think Team Coffee started strong with Bae, but the other two weren't as convincing (though Raora's rap was pretty fire).
Unfortunately, I have to give it to Team Tea. They had the more consistent arguments.
I've been drinking coffe lately and now I'm acidic I guess that's the danger what CC said and it always feel like I need to go to the bathroom but I do also believe when it comes to health tea is good for you but right now there's no option but to drink coffee at the moment. Everyone is good with their opinions everyone is valid and enjoyed both beverages except alcohol I hadn't have one but in the future I might. Thank you so much for this collab.
너무 즐거운 방송이었습니다 😂😂😂
베이 수고했어요! u a the best 🎉😎
Ina of the WAH (Water, Alcohol, Hope-soda), what is your verdict?
Yagoo being the Super-Chad for not taking sides and enforcing that we should all be allow to love what we love to drink XD
Thanine is in tea, but even tho it's not naturally in coffee. Some coffee companies add it in.
omg cecilia website is actually real
She bought a domain for that joke. Very impressive.
I can't find it
@@vtt03 Just put in the URL thats shown in her slide at 24:30
omg its actually there
the tea ad below tho 🤣
It always fun to see a bunch of EN members together like this. Whether they be playing a game, or yapping around on why their drink is better than other person's drink. So thank you so much Bae for hosting this incredibly fun collab debate stream with the other EN girls, despite how rough the scheduling or how busy everyone is sometimes
these type of events take so much time to prepare as well, glad that the participants enjoy it bc it will go down as one of if not the best holo streams in the english side
IryS summarized everything so well that if I didn't watch everything, I would have understood everything based on what she said.
I'm with Team Tea Time here. Coffee will literally make my medical condition worse lmao, but tea helps to relax so that is what I choose. I rather live than palpitate to d-word
Biboos presentation is just whole self report lol and here I thought she's the mvp of team coffee 😂
I love holoEN, man. Such a trivial debate to get heated lmao
Great effort from Coffee.
Now when's the Pizza civil war?
Fauna preped sth I learned after entering univesity and took the biochemistry class then... that's amazing
I had tested myself drinking coffee or tea before exams and noticed my performance dropped by 30% when I had coffee before math, physics and those need logical thinking.
(If I had coffee in the entrance test then I might not be able to learn these tbh...)
Those related to language, such as writing or grammars are fine to me though...
Still a question emerges here. Why those professors and research fellows drinks coffee rather than tea most of time?
Since they are writing sth for the breads and expense tomorrow, or they're really overworking? idk.
Actually I dirnk both but I have a high BP since I got birth defect on kidneys and drinking coffee always make me hard to breathe (aka neurons too excited, so I only drink coffee when I'm preping important reports and need to be awake for more than 24hrs, or I'm just gonna enjoy the breaking time, no tasks but chills only later)
So I believe it's by cases and your needs (taste the bitter as your life etc)
BTW about the kidney stones, tea has oxalate which could be related to increased risk of developing kidney stones
I saw some researches since 2020~ said that oxalate in tea has low bioavailability and the caffine does increase the urine flush, so the overall effects seems to be preventive more than inducing stones.
Just *don't forget to drink water* and brush your teeth if you mind the appearance
Better be aware of additives in canned or bottled coffee or tea, I recommend fresh one if you have time. If not, drink same amount of water as well could be fine.
Cheers
-I'm not writing my dissertation definitely-
Fauna's speech.
Hope I can raise my defense as how fluent she did
36:26 Thank you for having me as a witness today, your honors, and my esteemed green colleague and also my blue colleague, thank you.
36:35 I have prepared a short speech for you today.
36:38 Though tea is superior to coffee for myriad(many) reasons,
36:41 I will focus my testimony on one aspect only.
36:44 The amino acid L-theanine, while both coffee and tea contain caffine. L-theanine is found natuarally in green tea and contrarily(oppositely) is absent from coffee.
36:55 We therefore may use the elusive (not that common as other AAs we know) amino acid presence or lack thereof as a point of comparison between our competing beverages.
37:03 Caffine on its own is perhaps most notably associated with its neural-stimulating effects, increased alertness and cognitive performance at the expense of elevated heart rate and blood pressure.
37:16 You may be content to accept these side effects as a coffee drinker. However, there is another path offered by our favorite beverage of tea.
37:26 L-theanine once again found naturally in tea, and anagonizes caffeine in such a way to reduce the negative effects while boosting the positive.
37:34 L-theanine regulates the central nervous system (CNS), increasing the release of dopamine, inhibiting glutamate reuptake,
decreasing norepinephrine and increasing serotonin.
37:44 That's right L-theanine antagonizes caffeine, lowering blood pressure while coffee continues to elavate and elavate again.
37:53 Further, L-theanine increases alpha brain wave activity accosiated with creativity, improved learning and decreased anxiety.
38:01 Tea bests coffee in a matter of variety, taste, and health, but you need look no further than L-theanine to prove tea's dominion over coffee.
38:10 I rest my case thank you.
The structure of L-theanine is similar to glutamate so you can think it as an imposters binds to the receptors (contact the agents) and then just controlls the place so the receptors becomes not that sensitive to the glutamate signals to the receptors...
Details are quite complicated and I believe some parts are still unclear, but some clinical, I mean, the effects seems to be well-studied as this point
effects of caffeine (review): Brain Res Brain Res Rev. 1992 May-Aug;17(2):139-70.
alpha wave: Asia Pac J Clin Nutr. 2008:17 Suppl 1:167-8.
(You can see lots of paper discussing how theanine benefits human but the mechanisms, ugh)
This speech is pretty saplings like… Shall we suppressed this image ?
52k votes and 50/50 is insane lol this debate went so hard
Still team tea dominated us team coffee it was such a great debate
@@aozora_whiteclouds aktually, you forgot Yagoo said both, so now both canonically won, and nobody literally can't argue back with best girl
1:18:03 Biboo starts doing ochame kinou headbop
next civil war should be RICE vs BREAD
Rice vs. noodles
Revolver vs. semi auto (judge IRyS)
Dumpling vs. ravioli
Udon vs. ramen
Dark vs. milk chocolate
Ketchup vs. mustard
Liquor vs. beer
Summer vs. winter
Savory vs. sweet
Mild vs. spicy
As a Jailbird-Otomo, I was on team tea from the start, as well as VOD gang, but It was fun to watch both sides' presentations.
but nobody invoked "No Cap"
I guess measures weren't that drastic. XD
I got the reference
I also had to think about that xD And has anyone even looked if the defenders have legs?! 😨
Good ol' times... I miss those two in Holo 😢
I really love how Hololive reminds me of how much of a polar opposite they are from Nijisanji. Hololive is the best all the girls in it are just phenomenal and adorable. Biboo was hysterical.
28:17 Comedian 😂😂
NERISSA WITH THE SAVAGE SWEEP!!!!!!!
Every new generation seems to bring even bigger and better collabs each time.
Wow Bae is cooking really well with this collabs
37:54 IRyS puts on her glasses.
In the end. Biboo was always on team milk.
Fr
The correct team.
Man I Love Koseki
milk enjoyers rise up
Her goal is beyond our understanding.
Overall I think if the world of high end specialty coffees and teas were explored here even the most staunch Pro-Coffee and Pro-Tea members would have. A hard time not liking what the other side can offer
Honestly that was so fun and entertaining to watch!
Next Holo Civil War: TEAM ALCOHOL vs TEAM SOBER? xD
Who's going to be on which team?
Lamy, Calli vs ???
>the Italian is on Team coffee
Did we even need to be told?
Fauna's speech was so well thought out and professional, as expected of a science enjoyer 💚 Thank you for the very fun stream! TEAM TEA SWEEP
I'm extremely sensitive to caffeine, it triggers severe anxiety and panic attacks for me so I'm water gang. Although I used to be team coffee before I developed the caffeine sensitivity (dunno how that even happened to be honest)
OtsuCivilWar~~
By the time the Mother Nature dropped the fact about L-Theanine, the debate is over
TeaSweep!!! Remember guys.. Mother Nature created both Coffee and Tea billion years ago and has decided Tea is better
Thank you for all judges, prosecutors, and lawyers for the stream (also for Nekomikuri, Daaku, Spiritsnare, Farhan, and Yagoo)
46:30 Calli been real quiet since this dropped 🔥🔥🔥
Man nintendo should have hololive en collab with splatoon 3 splatfest Tea vs Coffee vs Soda
We love this type of content it's more educational with fun. Hope we see more content like this in other topics more education for everyone (age groups).