I've just always assumed that Samos asked this guy to pretend to be Jak's uncle to help keep the ruse up. Maybe the Uncle is the one who actually raised Jak, and he just casually encouraged him to hang out with Samos.
When Jak’s uncle referred to daxter as the “miserably ugly one” he was speaking about daxter without knowing that he was an otsel. He was talking about how daxter looked as a human, and didn’t know that daxter was standing right there in front of him (at the beginning of tpl).
Plot twist:the explorer is actually Jak as an old man years later after he became mar,and he traveled back in time to hide the precursor stone from metal kor
What I want to know is more about the Golden Branch of the Precursor Monks, They knew more about the day star the precursors and Mar than they let on, you also have to find it strange that their place of worship just so happens to be sprinkled with the seal of mar all over the place Even having a Sub-Rail System going Straight to Mar’s Eco mine.....Isn’t it Interesting how Seem Was the one to Confirm Jak’s Identity to Ashelin?🤔
Hey I’m not Saying your theory is the worst or you should jump into a pool of dark eco or anything just disagreeing with evidence to support my disagreement you don’t have to be so rude.
No the uncle is British Jak doesn’t have Any of those mannerisms that the His Adoptive uncle displays, Especially When he doesn’t Talk All that much when he was young.
My father was “part of a *family* “ and since he was part of it that meant I had a lot of “Uncles” like Uncle Vinny, Uncle Paulie and Uncle Tony they weren’t my Dad’s brothers but they acted like it. So in the case of Jak’s “Uncle” I think the relationship was imposed instead of inherited.
I may be a bit late to the party with this comment, but in many Asian cultures the word ‘uncle’ (and its variations in different languages) can mean more than just a blood relative. It can also refer to a trusted family friend or an elder. This way of using ‘uncle’ (or ‘aunt’ for women) shows respect, especially for someone older or someone close to the family. This way of addressing someone shows respect for elders and the importance of close-knit community relationships. Even if someone isn’t related by blood, they can still play a big role in people’s lives. For this very reason I’ve never thought Jak’s uncle to be a blood relative, but rather someone who has guided and mentored him in his early life, just as you touched upon in this video.
I like the idea that The Explorer is an ancestor to Jak. The Uncle just helped raise Jak, and got the "title" of Uncle, like how you address your elders "Yes, Uncle." and "No, Auntie". It just happen to bee that the uncle IS an ancestor to Jak, unknowingly to all. During his last journey, after getting the orbs from Jak, the metalheads attacked and The Uncle choose to stay in a remote safe village near to where he explored and stared a family with some lovely woman he met.
You assume it would be Jak's Uncle on his father's side we never met his mother which even skipping years he could be a great uncle or something along those lines
Uncle is usually given to someone who helps the family but isn't an actual family member. I personally think this was blown out of proportion and he is simply a family friend uncle.
I always saw it as the man who adopted Jak, Samos, sorry don't know how to spell, needed someone to help raise Jak while he was becoming a Sage so he found someone who was perfect, so his uncle adopted Jak and raised him along side Samos
Maybe the Green Sage married someone there to have Kira. Maybe this uncle is Samos’s brother in law and Jak considers him his uncle because Samos acts like Jak’s father.
I still think Mar is the Warrior from Jak1 and I’d love to see a modern game following Mar (the Warrior) as he fights the metal heads and builds Haven (with the help of the sages) after Jak disappears into the rift gate at the start of Jak2.
I always thought The Uncle was the brother of Jak's mother, because he doesn't look anything like Damas. Not sure what his role is when it comes to the bigger picture tho. If they ever decided to bring the character back they'd have a white canvas to create something cool.
Jak 1 is a collage of old myths and legends combined into one story. Just like dbz, Naruto, evangelion, etc. What was behind the Exit door (pagemaster) wasn't exactly known until they did the kyle reese/future trunks story of Jak 2
I always thought the green cane gem was a crystalized form of green eco since hes an explorer and old, and collects eco, thought it was just tool for survival.
I mean, people also just use the word "uncle" of adoptive parents, too. The truth is probably that when they decided to take the huge tone shift from J&D to J2, they just didn't really bother fleshing Uncle out. I don't think it's that deep lol.
I always assumed that he called himself jaks uncle as a way to please Jak and make him think he had more family, but this time traveler theory is very interesting and something I’d never heard before! Keep up the good work Vivi ^^
I thought the uncle would be baron praxis's ancient ancestor I think this cause baron has a similar mustache, he has the monocle where barons face mask covers the same eye, not to mention the glowing green sword he has seems to resemble the green on the staff of Jak's uncle also I get the feeling that the baron might be Jak's actual uncle because of the fact that damas is Jak's father and the baron didn't kill damas after the betrayal raises an eyebrow where the baron is seen as cruel and only focused on his agenda apparently banishes instead of killing perhaps they have some sort of history. Sometimes I wonder if the characters in Jak 1 are massive foreshadow into future characters in Jak 2 and 3
Not to make your theory weird or anything, but if Baron Praxis Is Jaks uncle, wouldn't that mean Ashlien is his cousin, who also had a fling with each other?
Your little side notes had me cracking up. I think the uncle was just some overlooked early writing in the series but these are some good ways to retcon him back into the story if we ever get a Jak 4.
PLOT TWIST: jak uncle is actually cortex in disguise, who's been secretly watching jak and determining if he'd be worthy in his army. but cortex realized jak was too good and powerful to control. so cortex asked Jak for 90 orbs and disappeared to build his lab, which starts the whole plot of crash 1. naughty dog just didn't want us to figure it out guys
Many people call their adoptive/foster parents uncles and aunties. So maybe he just took Jack in after Samos had Keira and had to focus od raising her as well. Maybe he was the first friend Samos made in the past and told him the truth and they shared raising Jak between eachother. In case something happened to Samos Jak would still have one person keeping an eye on him and takig care.
I don’t know too much about the lore of Jak but have played the games. I thought Mar(original Jak) had fought endlessly in the war against the metal heads and devised a plan to get his past self to end it once and for all. Lead them to the discovery of the portal and started their journey to destroy the dark ship from the ending to Jak 1 to 3.
Same, as to make sure we’re both thinking the same thing. Original Jak, no going into the future, is mar that furthered technology mined for eco and so when he was told of the coming darkness (dark ship) in x years, so him and the house of mar readed the world to prepare against metal heads but are losing (gap between 1 and 2) (solving the whole jak is mar, house of mar, tombs and whole technological advancements using lurkers as workers to build all these places). But issue being that how did original young jak get to the past to become mar. Well my answer is that Samos Damos and (old lady forgot her name onin?) figure out that through original mar lineage is all super precursory and to save the egg and young jak (young mar) by sending them to the pass with a protector (Samos). Leading to the jak we know in the first game causing the events in the second game and saving the world in the third
Vivi I’m sorry if I already said this before, you have such an excellent taste in gaming. You basically like all the games I loved growing up and more. Kingdom hearts, crash bandicoot, Spyro the dragon, ratchet and clank, jak and Daxter, sly cooper, MediEvil, uncharted. I don’t think there’ll ever be anyone else like you. You know that, buddy?
Even though he was referring to his human form, if the explorer was an ottsel himself, then he probably wouldn't have even brought up the rude joke, which still eliminates the idea that he's an ottsel precursor in disguise
I see the resemblance in Jak's uncle actually. He and Jak both have yellow and green hair. Plus he could actually be the uncle of the actual real Jak ancestor instead of Jak's direct ancestor, so more of a great great great... Uncle. Maybe he uses his time travel to survive.
There's so much unexplored stuff in world of Jak and Daxter. I mean, the Metal Heads are actually an alien race that rules over most of the known universe, after winning a great war against the Precursors (which caused the destruction of their society and near extinction). We know that the Dark Makers were corrupted by dark eco, but what about the Metal Heads? They need dark eco to survive and are essentially cyborgs. What makes this all the more interesting, is that the Precursors stated, that all eco contains their "essence"; does that mean they made the metal heads? It would have been interesting to see them continue this story...
first, your mother's brothers are also uncles, not just dads brothers :/ either way, I agree with the common assumption that "uncle" is just a really common term of endearment for an older person who isn't necessarily related to you. In the first game I did assume he had a familial connection to Jak, which is helped by their similar colour schemes, but from the second game onwards I just assumed he'd partially helped raise or teach Jak since he's an explorer (I can't see Samos being the one to give Jak his flair for adventure given the way he tells them not to go to Misty Island). I think it was probably lightly retconned after the first game, since IMO it doesn't even really need explanation. I think the devs trust us to make some logical conclusions now and then without having to outright explain, especially since he's such a minor character anyway. I do like the potential theories though that he had something to do with the precursors, and maybe this was just dropped in favour of other story lines or just something left in to potentially explore that just didn't get picked up or was maybe never intended to, since some mysteries in a game are fun. Also, one thing I think is maybe a small correction - when his uncle calls Daxter "you know, the little annoying miserably ugly one", he does it in a way that shows he doesn't know Daxter is in the room. He is talking about pre-ottsel Daxter, since he doesn't know that Daxter has been changed and is the rodent in his house. So regardless of whether he knew what a precursor looked like, the comment wouldn't be about them anyway (instead it would be whether he recognises ottsel-Daxter as being a precursor, which he doesn't). I would also explain that away however by saying the Precursors didn't readily reveal themselves to be ottsels, so he might've never seen their real form.
After comparing the physical traits of the two, I don't personally believe they are related and are brothers by blood. Unless one of them got more genes from one of the mother and the other got more from the father. Which is common to happen. Then again, white hair and blue eyes are just few steps off from blonde hair and green eyes. So it's still in the realm of possibility and I just go with the flow at this point.
I never looked into any theories about Jak's uncle. I thought he is just a character in TPL to show some of Jak's family during the game and then became a plot hole once Jak 2 and 3 happened, just like Keira lol
You know, Jak & Daxter might have a bunch of elements that we might not understand like the "Jak's uncle" theory and "Jak is Mar" theory. I wish we can Reboot Jak and Daxter by focusing on the precursor culture arc and we still have the characters from Jak 2 and 3 be in the culture as well. Sly Cooper is good for now, but we need improvements on character development and backstories. I would have Insomniac Games and Bluepoint Games developing the Sly Cooper Reboot Game with the Spider-Man PS4 Combat and Open-World Formula and remake Sly Cooper 1, 2, and 3 in the animation render of sly 4 along with Ghostbot Inc. When we get a Jak and Daxter Reboot Game while we are only in the precursor culture arc, we should use the God of War 2018 PS4 Game Formula.
Hmmm well the rift gate/rider that Samos and Jak used was located at Gol and Mayas citadel, which was pretty far from Sandover village. What if when Jak and Samos went back to the past, the ended up at the end area of the first game, and the Explorer was the one who guided and protected them back to Sandover, spurring Samos to have him in such a critical role for Jaks development
I think the explorer was just used to cover up the fact jak was from the future, jak was pretty young when they went into the past so they probably used the explorer as a family member if jak ever started questioning where is family was or where he came from
I realise but if u realise that Samos treats jak as a son and Keira is his daughter Keira’s mother could have a brother, that brother being the ‘uncle’ and therefore jaks uncle
The real question is how can Kiera be Samos biological daughter if she is only 1 year younger than Jak? Biggest mistery in the Jak and Daxter series, that or a huge plot hole caused by Jak 1 and 2 lack of planned connection.
The only reasonable in-universe explanation is that Keira's adopted. That's my chosen headcanon, and I'm rolling with it. She doesn't even look anything like Samos.
Wait, what if they are biologically connected, but not in a close way, I mean like his great great uncle. What if at the time when Samos traveled to the past found that the explorer had something that was evidently from the Mar house? He could even be his great great great grandparent. Then it could be that, in order to hide the fact that jak was from the past, Samos told the explorer that he was Jak's uncle.
10:49 now hold on, he was describing human daxter here, he didn't realize that daxter had been transformed. Granted, he probably would have reacted to an ottzel being on jaks shoulder...
Thank you soo much for making a video about Jaks uncle aka The Explorer!!! Very interesting hearing a bunch of different theories on him. I think any of them could be possible. I think we should all bombard Naughty Dog HQ and demand Jak 4 😂
Unfortunately going after Naughty Dog won't help since they no longer have the IP leading to the garbage-fire last game that was released for the series being all about planes
Also something else I thought was really ridiculous in jak II, even though it’s my favourite game of the series, the amount of precursor orbs you need to get to unlock the cutscenes for all 3 acts is downright ridiculous I think. They cost hardly anything in jak 3 and they’re very easy to find too in the haven city walls too. As well unlocking as all the character models. What do you think overall vivi?
so the beard on the uncle looks like the side pieces on mar statues. also I think the uncle was someone who stopped in the village and agreed to look over jak and daxter. because Keira and her dad lived in the hut. so jak and daxter needed somewhere to live. So they just said hey this is your uncle you'll live with him so you don't find out about the time travel stuff
It's probably really simple, like The Explorer is just really good Friends with Samos so he naturally becomes "Uncle" (Insert Name Here) to Jak... Like I'm "Uncle" to my good friends son & daughter but I'm not related to him 🤷♂️
But also Vivi you know something really funny about the tmnt movie that came out in 2007 right? The one who voiced Donatello was the one who voiced ratchet in the first ratchet and clank game, and the one who voiced Raphael was voiced by the other guy who voiced ratchet from going commando onwards. Do you remember that at all? It’s so weird I think! Hearing both of their voices in the same money. Like two different ratchets interacting with each other at one! It was crazy! Lol
If we were to think of a theory... I think he's just someone related to the excuse of Green sages appearance and Jaks adoption. Otherwise Jak doesn't know where he comes from, doesn't know it's literally out of nowhere. They also needed a person to look after Jak when Samos was busy and they also need someone to inspire Jak to become the person he is in the future. Like, it's if they put Jak in a family tree to seem as if he is the same as all the other kids, since he has blonde hair and green eyes. It wouldn't be a stretch to think he found Jak and Samos on his adventures and brought them back to Sandover with him unknowing of their travels from the future. I think that specific precursor projection was made simply so it can go back in time to put itself in the precursor egg, in order to relay a message to Jak. I think his mental health is just old age. I think his Staff is a relic, but I don't think it influences him as much as how young the world of Jak and Daxter was new to explore back then. I'm sure he wanted the precursor orbs so that he could go on another adventure, so he went off to adventure again. Simply gone while his home was overrun by Metal Heads. He could even be one of the people who survived and helped in the beginning of the first colony that fought the Metal Heads when Mar appeared. But otherwise, I think he's some normal dude, and by the time of Jak 2 he's simply dead.
Jak looks nothing like his father too, so i’m assuming he takes after his mother. The explorer does have that blond hair that could come from jak’s mother’s side of the family. It kinda sucks she was never mentioned
as to make sure we’re both thinking the same thing. Original Jak, no going into the future, is the mar that furthered technology mined for eco and so when he was told of the coming darkness (dark maker ship) in x years, so him and the house of mar (friends and family, young onin, Samos (from first game) and all those people) readed the world to prepare against the metal heads but aren’t prepared enough (war between 1 and 2, built haven mar died, son Damos whose son is mar, overthrown by praxis creating the Jak 2 world) (solving the whole jak is mar, house of mar, tombs and whole technological advancements using lurkers as workers to build all these places). But issue being that how did original young jak get to the past to become mar. Well my answer is that Samos, Damos and onin figure out that the mar lineage is all super precursory and special they find the portal and to save the egg and young jak (young mar) they send them to the pass with a protector (Young Samos whom they find in jak 2)(this is because Samos in the start of 2 answers himself with so this is how it happened. How what? How old Samos got to the future) Leading to the jak we know in the first game causing the events in the second game and saving the world in the third, creating all these time travel things. And after the metal head leader in the first timeline found out about the portal killed everyone and everything, so when the “last rift gate has been opened” he can come through and keep it out of mar’s hands, and in so doing dies trying to go through one more time to fix his mistakes causing his odd decapitation in the boss fight. My name is Phantom#1732 on discord if there is any questions ask me there
That’s what I thought had always been the story I had no idea that it was so heavily debated. I’m sorry but youtube has a bad commenting system on phone so I did link my discord to answer other questions people may have. FYI I only played the games 1-3 are the games I consider canon and all things that happen during
We never met Jak's Mother. It's possible the Uncle is Jak's maternal uncle (Jak's mother's brother). I wouldn't rule out the Explorer being a time traveler.
Oh hey Vivi I gotta ask you too, with the original jak and Daxter ps2 physical copy, did you get that map of the overall world of the game in general? Where it shows you where all the level locations are and hidden secrets too? That was honestly so cool I thought. I kind of wish I still had that to be honest, but then I traded it in for the ps3 HD trilogy collection, which I have downloaded on my ps4. Oh boy right? 😉
I think alot of the plot holes were mainly due to the fact they had basically 5 year total to make the entire series, and they writers just forgot plot points. Cuase wtf is that thing that comes out of the precurson stone? Samus would have had to hide the time cart keira built and rift gate behind the 100 powercell door himself. So many plot holes in this game series.
I think after Jak 1 your supposed to just forget about jaks uncle and I think naughty dog did this on purpose because obviously he's never seen in any of the other games, basically they were trying to make it as if he never even existed
I will note this, when Jak's Uncle insults daxter and calls him small and miserably ugly, he's actuallu refering to Daxter as of he was not in the room because he doesn't recognize him in that form. When he calls him small annoying and miserably ugly, he is definitely takking about his human form.
Personally Ive always just thought of him as Jak's real great great great great great great great great grandfather or uncle,but tgat Samos just arrived in the village eventually with Jak and just told the Explorer that Jak was his relative who's parents passed away or something. Jak's uncle then taking him in and giving Jak his love for exploring. And Im gonna assume him disappearing isnt something bigger than "he's only gone for a couple days/months and the only reason he "disappears" is cause the metalheads destroy the world shortly after he leaves anyways. I have doubts he ever knew anything more. Samos re alistically just kinda reveres Jak's uncle as a great explorer but realistiy provably ony brings it up yo Jak because for Jak it's his only relative and it matters to him.
Maybe jaks uncle is jak himself, and maybe the warrior is mar? what if the precursor stone/egg originates from Tess and Daxter and he kept it safe for them, would explain the gem collections, a cover to disguise his true goals. it would explain the orbs and travel too, knowing whats soon to happen old fart jak would leave to protect the stone/egg.
@@VtnVivi lots of ideas. I've been thinking maybe its more of a chrysalis than an egg. however From what it seems its basically just a special type of eco crystal, maybe its just a holding cell for the energy stage of its life cycle. Or, maybe it comes out small and feeds off of eco like metal head eggs and then hatches with some kind of trigger or signal?
Can you do... just who is the Sculptor guy and his Muse I wondering if that Muse cat is the rare and last animal to exsist? in Jak and Daxter the precursor legacy. And JAK 2 kid Jak has a Dog only appear the second game and not anymore.
I thought he was only called uncle because jak would look up to him when he was a kid and listen to all of his stories, I didnt think he was actually related to jak since they share no resemblance apart from the clothes similar to jak and that could've just been because jak saw him as a role model as a child and liked to dress similar to him
What really bogles my mind if jak was pumped with dark eco yes and yes it should of killed him but when dexter fell into it he became the otsle.but what bothers me is how is jack unchanged physically after he canges from dark jack.
Or this "uncle" is actually just the man put in charge of raising Jak and has no actual relation to him. Samos probably didn't want his daughter, the soon-to-be only bachelorette in the village to look at the soon-to-be only bachelor in the village as a sibling, so he had "uncle" raise him instead. They decided he'd call him "uncle" because "father" would not have been appropriate, given Damas' status in Haven and Spargus.
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I've just always assumed that Samos asked this guy to pretend to be Jak's uncle to help keep the ruse up. Maybe the Uncle is the one who actually raised Jak, and he just casually encouraged him to hang out with Samos.
When Jak’s uncle referred to daxter as the “miserably ugly one” he was speaking about daxter without knowing that he was an otsel. He was talking about how daxter looked as a human, and didn’t know that daxter was standing right there in front of him (at the beginning of tpl).
Plot twist:the explorer is actually Jak as an old man years later after he became mar,and he traveled back in time to hide the precursor stone from metal kor
But the stone looks much bigger and was hidden inside his tomb. Unless you mean he hid the stone again after?
@@VtnVivi apart of my theory is that the green energy in the explorer's staff is actually a part of the precursor stone
What I want to know is more about the Golden Branch of the Precursor Monks, They knew more about the day star the precursors and Mar than they let on, you also have to find it strange that their place of worship just so happens to be sprinkled with the seal of mar all over the place Even having a Sub-Rail System going Straight to Mar’s Eco mine.....Isn’t it Interesting how Seem Was the one to Confirm Jak’s Identity to Ashelin?🤔
Hey I’m not Saying your theory is the worst or you should jump into a pool of dark eco or anything just disagreeing with evidence to support my disagreement you don’t have to be so rude.
No the uncle is British Jak doesn’t have Any of those mannerisms that the His Adoptive uncle displays, Especially When he doesn’t Talk All that much when he was young.
rlly gonna ignore the fact the two father figures of the game are called 'Samos' and 'Damos'
That’s some Sauron/Saruman bullshit right there my 2 year old comment friend
Maybe its like roberto and Alberto?
I always assumed he was Jak's adoptive Uncle who helped raise him, considering Samos was much busier with Sage stuff to deal with.
Makes sense.
My father was “part of a *family* “ and since he was part of it that meant I had a lot of “Uncles” like Uncle Vinny, Uncle Paulie and Uncle Tony they weren’t my Dad’s brothers but they acted like it.
So in the case of Jak’s “Uncle” I think the relationship was imposed instead of inherited.
Actually, when the Uncle was calling Daxter ugly he was referring to his "human" form.
Hmm.... Perhaps!
Yeah i thought the same but still if he is an ottsel himself, then he probably wouldn't have said it at all
I may be a bit late to the party with this comment, but in many Asian cultures the word ‘uncle’ (and its variations in different languages) can mean more than just a blood relative. It can also refer to a trusted family friend or an elder. This way of using ‘uncle’ (or ‘aunt’ for women) shows respect, especially for someone older or someone close to the family.
This way of addressing someone shows respect for elders and the importance of close-knit community relationships. Even if someone isn’t related by blood, they can still play a big role in people’s lives.
For this very reason I’ve never thought Jak’s uncle to be a blood relative, but rather someone who has guided and mentored him in his early life, just as you touched upon in this video.
They could write a game around this guy explaining how he is related to Jak and how he ended up in Sandover. It has potential to be quite epic.
For sure!
Jak 4 they should focus on things like that and recovering places like Sandover Village.
I like the idea that The Explorer is an ancestor to Jak. The Uncle just helped raise Jak, and got the "title" of Uncle, like how you address your elders "Yes, Uncle." and "No, Auntie".
It just happen to bee that the uncle IS an ancestor to Jak, unknowingly to all. During his last journey, after getting the orbs from Jak, the metalheads attacked and The Uncle choose to stay in a remote safe village near to where he explored and stared a family with some lovely woman he met.
You assume it would be Jak's Uncle on his father's side we never met his mother which even skipping years he could be a great uncle or something along those lines
Yep you certainly do have a point!
Uncle is usually given to someone who helps the family but isn't an actual family member. I personally think this was blown out of proportion and he is simply a family friend uncle.
Truly was Interested as a kid back then.
I always saw it as the man who adopted Jak, Samos, sorry don't know how to spell, needed someone to help raise Jak while he was becoming a Sage so he found someone who was perfect, so his uncle adopted Jak and raised him along side Samos
Maybe the Green Sage married someone there to have Kira. Maybe this uncle is Samos’s brother in law and Jak considers him his uncle because Samos acts like Jak’s father.
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I see what you did there. 😏
Heheh :P
Damn i really hope we get a new Jak and Daxter game
If that happens. it won't be by Naughty Dog.
@@VtnVivi i can agree with that
I hope the Uncle isn't just old Jak reliving his past to get some precursor orbs from himself.
I've read this theory a lot!
I still think Mar is the Warrior from Jak1 and I’d love to see a modern game following Mar (the Warrior) as he fights the metal heads and builds Haven (with the help of the sages) after Jak disappears into the rift gate at the start of Jak2.
Warrior transitioning to Mar, that'd be something I'd love to see :P
I always thought The Uncle was the brother of Jak's mother, because he doesn't look anything like Damas. Not sure what his role is when it comes to the bigger picture tho. If they ever decided to bring the character back they'd have a white canvas to create something cool.
To be honest I always felt Jak must've taken more after his mother since he scarcely resembles his father
Jak 1 is a collage of old myths and legends combined into one story. Just like dbz, Naruto, evangelion, etc. What was behind the Exit door (pagemaster) wasn't exactly known until they did the kyle reese/future trunks story of Jak 2
I honestly never noticed Samos mentioning jak’s uncle later on in that game. Guess it never twigged on me as a kid...
I always thought the green cane gem was a crystalized form of green eco since hes an explorer and old, and collects eco, thought it was just tool for survival.
I mean, people also just use the word "uncle" of adoptive parents, too. The truth is probably that when they decided to take the huge tone shift from J&D to J2, they just didn't really bother fleshing Uncle out. I don't think it's that deep lol.
I always assumed that he called himself jaks uncle as a way to please Jak and make him think he had more family, but this time traveler theory is very interesting and something I’d never heard before!
Keep up the good work Vivi ^^
Thank you!
This theory makes me wonder did Explorer had any idea about The Dark Makers
I thought the uncle would be baron praxis's ancient ancestor
I think this cause baron has a similar mustache, he has the monocle where barons face mask covers the same eye, not to mention the glowing green sword he has seems to resemble the green on the staff of Jak's uncle
also I get the feeling that the baron might be Jak's actual uncle because of the fact that damas is Jak's father and the baron didn't kill damas after the betrayal raises an eyebrow where the baron is seen as cruel and only focused on his agenda apparently banishes instead of killing perhaps they have some sort of history. Sometimes I wonder if the characters in Jak 1 are massive foreshadow into future characters in Jak 2 and 3
Interesting for sure!
Not to make your theory weird or anything, but if Baron Praxis Is Jaks uncle, wouldn't that mean Ashlien is his cousin, who also had a fling with each other?
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As someone new getting into the jak series I thank you for making these videos.
No problem!
Your little side notes had me cracking up. I think the uncle was just some overlooked early writing in the series but these are some good ways to retcon him back into the story if we ever get a Jak 4.
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PLOT TWIST: jak uncle is actually cortex in disguise, who's been secretly watching jak and determining if he'd be worthy in his army. but cortex realized jak was too good and powerful to control. so cortex asked Jak for 90 orbs and disappeared to build his lab, which starts the whole plot of crash 1. naughty dog just didn't want us to figure it out guys
Hahahaha
I've always wondered why there was a connection to this
Many people call their adoptive/foster parents uncles and aunties. So maybe he just took Jack in after Samos had Keira and had to focus od raising her as well. Maybe he was the first friend Samos made in the past and told him the truth and they shared raising Jak between eachother. In case something happened to Samos Jak would still have one person keeping an eye on him and takig care.
I don’t know too much about the lore of Jak but have played the games. I thought Mar(original Jak) had fought endlessly in the war against the metal heads and devised a plan to get his past self to end it once and for all. Lead them to the discovery of the portal and started their journey to destroy the dark ship from the ending to Jak 1 to 3.
Same, as to make sure we’re both thinking the same thing. Original Jak, no going into the future, is mar that furthered technology mined for eco and so when he was told of the coming darkness (dark ship) in x years, so him and the house of mar readed the world to prepare against metal heads but are losing (gap between 1 and 2) (solving the whole jak is mar, house of mar, tombs and whole technological advancements using lurkers as workers to build all these places). But issue being that how did original young jak get to the past to become mar. Well my answer is that Samos Damos and (old lady forgot her name onin?) figure out that through original mar lineage is all super precursory and to save the egg and young jak (young mar) by sending them to the pass with a protector (Samos). Leading to the jak we know in the first game causing the events in the second game and saving the world in the third
I just started wondering this a month ago! I'm so glad you made this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The fact that I am playing Jak and Daxter again and was thinking about this today and you upload a video about it is uncanny! Thanks V!
No problem!
Vivi I’m sorry if I already said this before, you have such an excellent taste in gaming. You basically like all the games I loved growing up and more. Kingdom hearts, crash bandicoot, Spyro the dragon, ratchet and clank, jak and Daxter, sly cooper, MediEvil, uncharted. I don’t think there’ll ever be anyone else like you. You know that, buddy?
:P
Let's look at this "The Uncle" could have just been a place holder for a friend or someone to look up to.
3:59 I mean it's still most likely a simple retcon
I have been wondering about Jak's uncle. Thanks for doing this video.
No problem!
I think the Uncle is refering to daxter before he changed.
Even though he was referring to his human form, if the explorer was an ottsel himself, then
he probably wouldn't have even brought up the rude joke, which still eliminates the idea that he's an ottsel precursor in disguise
I see the resemblance in Jak's uncle actually. He and Jak both have yellow and green hair. Plus he could actually be the uncle of the actual real Jak ancestor instead of Jak's direct ancestor, so more of a great great great... Uncle. Maybe he uses his time travel to survive.
I see :D
I didn’t know The explorer is Jak’s uncle
Until this video
There's so much unexplored stuff in world of Jak and Daxter. I mean, the Metal Heads are actually an alien race that rules over most of the known universe, after winning a great war against the Precursors (which caused the destruction of their society and near extinction). We know that the Dark Makers were corrupted by dark eco, but what about the Metal Heads? They need dark eco to survive and are essentially cyborgs.
What makes this all the more interesting, is that the Precursors stated, that all eco contains their "essence"; does that mean they made the metal heads? It would have been interesting to see them continue this story...
first, your mother's brothers are also uncles, not just dads brothers :/ either way, I agree with the common assumption that "uncle" is just a really common term of endearment for an older person who isn't necessarily related to you. In the first game I did assume he had a familial connection to Jak, which is helped by their similar colour schemes, but from the second game onwards I just assumed he'd partially helped raise or teach Jak since he's an explorer (I can't see Samos being the one to give Jak his flair for adventure given the way he tells them not to go to Misty Island). I think it was probably lightly retconned after the first game, since IMO it doesn't even really need explanation. I think the devs trust us to make some logical conclusions now and then without having to outright explain, especially since he's such a minor character anyway. I do like the potential theories though that he had something to do with the precursors, and maybe this was just dropped in favour of other story lines or just something left in to potentially explore that just didn't get picked up or was maybe never intended to, since some mysteries in a game are fun.
Also, one thing I think is maybe a small correction - when his uncle calls Daxter "you know, the little annoying miserably ugly one", he does it in a way that shows he doesn't know Daxter is in the room. He is talking about pre-ottsel Daxter, since he doesn't know that Daxter has been changed and is the rodent in his house. So regardless of whether he knew what a precursor looked like, the comment wouldn't be about them anyway (instead it would be whether he recognises ottsel-Daxter as being a precursor, which he doesn't). I would also explain that away however by saying the Precursors didn't readily reveal themselves to be ottsels, so he might've never seen their real form.
After comparing the physical traits of the two, I don't personally believe they are related and are brothers by blood. Unless one of them got more genes from one of the mother and the other got more from the father. Which is common to happen. Then again, white hair and blue eyes are just few steps off from blonde hair and green eyes. So it's still in the realm of possibility and I just go with the flow at this point.
I see :)
I never looked into any theories about Jak's uncle. I thought he is just a character in TPL to show some of Jak's family during the game and then became a plot hole once Jak 2 and 3 happened, just like Keira lol
This is good vtnvivi i always wanted to know more about jak,s uncle in process
I'm glad you liked it :D
Vivi: 300 years is plenty amount of time for someone's family lineage
Yeah, cuz there isn't a game series with an even longer family lineage.
You know, Jak & Daxter might have a bunch of elements that we might not understand like the "Jak's uncle" theory and "Jak is Mar" theory. I wish we can Reboot Jak and Daxter by focusing on the precursor culture arc and we still have the characters from Jak 2 and 3 be in the culture as well. Sly Cooper is good for now, but we need improvements on character development and backstories. I would have Insomniac Games and Bluepoint Games developing the Sly Cooper Reboot Game with the Spider-Man PS4 Combat and Open-World Formula and remake Sly Cooper 1, 2, and 3 in the animation render of sly 4 along with Ghostbot Inc. When we get a Jak and Daxter Reboot Game while we are only in the precursor culture arc, we should use the God of War 2018 PS4 Game Formula.
Actually, IG was asked about working on Sly by a fan, they said no. It's Sony who makes the call.
I always thought samus found a random traveler coming to town and asked him to adopt jak so he could spend more time talking to the rocks and plants
Talk to rocks and plants with no context :P
Hmmm well the rift gate/rider that Samos and Jak used was located at Gol and Mayas citadel, which was pretty far from Sandover village. What if when Jak and Samos went back to the past, the ended up at the end area of the first game, and the Explorer was the one who guided and protected them back to Sandover, spurring Samos to have him in such a critical role for Jaks development
I think the explorer was just used to cover up the fact jak was from the future, jak was pretty young when they went into the past so they probably used the explorer as a family member if jak ever started questioning where is family was or where he came from
Oh!!!!!
Damus is 500 years old
Meme comment aside its fascinating that the lore has so many unpolished ends but so much intrigue that people keep theorizing.
I realise but if u realise that Samos treats jak as a son and Keira is his daughter Keira’s mother could have a brother, that brother being the ‘uncle’ and therefore jaks uncle
Or even, daxter is treated as jaks brother and maybe Daxters father or mother could have a brother and therefore the uncle
Many cultures call non family members Uncle / Aunty out of respect, so I always thought it was that
Yeah!
The real question is how can Kiera be Samos biological daughter if she is only 1 year younger than Jak?
Biggest mistery in the Jak and Daxter series, that or a huge plot hole caused by Jak 1 and 2 lack of planned connection.
The only reasonable in-universe explanation is that Keira's adopted. That's my chosen headcanon, and I'm rolling with it. She doesn't even look anything like Samos.
@@AnimaVox_ Jak doesn't look like Dammas at all either xD
@@AlexxxMYLSince2013 True, he probably takes after his mother. Although they both have blue eyes.
@@AnimaVox_ Dammas's eyes are purple xD
@@AlexxxMYLSince2013 I've always seen them as blue. 🤷
Wait, what if they are biologically connected, but not in a close way, I mean like his great great uncle. What if at the time when Samos traveled to the past found that the explorer had something that was evidently from the Mar house? He could even be his great great great grandparent. Then it could be that, in order to hide the fact that jak was from the past, Samos told the explorer that he was Jak's uncle.
Thank you so much for doing these videos!
With pleasure!
10:49 now hold on, he was describing human daxter here, he didn't realize that daxter had been transformed.
Granted, he probably would have reacted to an ottzel being on jaks shoulder...
Thank you soo much for making a video about Jaks uncle aka The Explorer!!! Very interesting hearing a bunch of different theories on him. I think any of them could be possible. I think we should all bombard Naughty Dog HQ and demand Jak 4 😂
Yay glad you like it :p
Unfortunately going after Naughty Dog won't help since they no longer have the IP leading to the garbage-fire last game that was released for the series being all about planes
Such a shame. 😞
Also something else I thought was really ridiculous in jak II, even though it’s my favourite game of the series, the amount of precursor orbs you need to get to unlock the cutscenes for all 3 acts is downright ridiculous I think. They cost hardly anything in jak 3 and they’re very easy to find too in the haven city walls too. As well unlocking as all the character models. What do you think overall vivi?
It sure was a grind!!!!!
I think he's from the future mostly because of the metal head gem looking thing in his cane
I believe when they went back in time Samos give Jak to a couple on Sandover village but they died and Jaks uncle adoptive uncle took him in
so the beard on the uncle looks like the side pieces on mar statues. also I think the uncle was someone who stopped in the village and agreed to look over jak and daxter. because Keira and her dad lived in the hut. so jak and daxter needed somewhere to live. So they just said hey this is your uncle you'll live with him so you don't find out about the time travel stuff
It's probably really simple, like The Explorer is just really good Friends with Samos so he naturally becomes "Uncle" (Insert Name Here) to Jak... Like I'm "Uncle" to my good friends son & daughter but I'm not related to him 🤷♂️
Perhaps :)
God! I thought I was the only person in the world upset by this. Finally someone else addresses it
But also Vivi you know something really funny about the tmnt movie that came out in 2007 right? The one who voiced Donatello was the one who voiced ratchet in the first ratchet and clank game, and the one who voiced Raphael was voiced by the other guy who voiced ratchet from going commando onwards. Do you remember that at all? It’s so weird I think! Hearing both of their voices in the same money. Like two different ratchets interacting with each other at one! It was crazy! Lol
Also, Kevin Munroe directed that movie! He wrote the R&C movie after original script got scrapped.
VTNVIVI ikr? Isn’t that the craziest coincidence. It also has similar animation too doesn’t it?
Point subtracted for not including the "ONE OF NATURE'S MYSTERIES!!" clip from Ratchet & Clank 3. JK JK, nice video still.
AhHHHH I should've!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ONE OF NATURE'S MYSTERIES!!!! XD
About the 10:30 mark. Both theories could be true and this actually just ties more into the first one
This just makes me wanna play the game
i miss sly and jak i hope blue point games make it
They have jak and daxter games on the ps4 if you have one.
If we were to think of a theory...
I think he's just someone related to the excuse of Green sages appearance and Jaks adoption.
Otherwise Jak doesn't know where he comes from, doesn't know it's literally out of nowhere. They also needed a person to look after Jak when Samos was busy and they also need someone to inspire Jak to become the person he is in the future.
Like, it's if they put Jak in a family tree to seem as if he is the same as all the other kids, since he has blonde hair and green eyes. It wouldn't be a stretch to think he found Jak and Samos on his adventures and brought them back to Sandover with him unknowing of their travels from the future.
I think that specific precursor projection was made simply so it can go back in time to put itself in the precursor egg, in order to relay a message to Jak. I think his mental health is just old age.
I think his Staff is a relic, but I don't think it influences him as much as how young the world of Jak and Daxter was new to explore back then. I'm sure he wanted the precursor orbs so that he could go on another adventure, so he went off to adventure again. Simply gone while his home was overrun by Metal Heads.
He could even be one of the people who survived and helped in the beginning of the first colony that fought the Metal Heads when Mar appeared.
But otherwise, I think he's some normal dude, and by the time of Jak 2 he's simply dead.
Interesting analysis!
@@VtnVivi thanks, it’s just my take of what you’ve shown and then looking through the same sources.
Jak looks nothing like his father too, so i’m assuming he takes after his mother. The explorer does have that blond hair that could come from jak’s mother’s side of the family. It kinda sucks she was never mentioned
as to make sure we’re both thinking the same thing. Original Jak, no going into the future, is the mar that furthered technology mined for eco and so when he was told of the coming darkness (dark maker ship) in x years, so him and the house of mar (friends and family, young onin, Samos (from first game) and all those people) readed the world to prepare against the metal heads but aren’t prepared enough (war between 1 and 2, built haven mar died, son Damos whose son is mar, overthrown by praxis creating the Jak 2 world) (solving the whole jak is mar, house of mar, tombs and whole technological advancements using lurkers as workers to build all these places). But issue being that how did original young jak get to the past to become mar. Well my answer is that Samos, Damos and onin figure out that the mar lineage is all super precursory and special they find the portal and to save the egg and young jak (young mar) they send them to the pass with a protector (Young Samos whom they find in jak 2)(this is because Samos in the start of 2 answers himself with so this is how it happened. How what? How old Samos got to the future) Leading to the jak we know in the first game causing the events in the second game and saving the world in the third, creating all these time travel things. And after the metal head leader in the first timeline found out about the portal killed everyone and everything, so when the “last rift gate has been opened” he can come through and keep it out of mar’s hands, and in so doing dies trying to go through one more time to fix his mistakes causing his odd decapitation in the boss fight. My name is Phantom#1732 on discord if there is any questions ask me there
That’s what I thought had always been the story I had no idea that it was so heavily debated. I’m sorry but youtube has a bad commenting system on phone so I did link my discord to answer other questions people may have. FYI I only played the games 1-3 are the games I consider canon and all things that happen during
I think jak would sleep there, and that guy was like a father figure but he just said to call him uncle
He could be damas’s brother “in-law”.
The explorer is the same idea as the plumber from ratchet and clank
We never met Jak's Mother. It's possible the Uncle is Jak's maternal uncle (Jak's mother's brother). I wouldn't rule out the Explorer being a time traveler.
I thought the gems that the explorer collected was same the Gordie and Welber were mining in Volcanic Crater.
I don't know about that. It just might be a huge gem. I do wonder how long it took them to mine that gem.
This is why we either need a sequel or a reboot h, idc by who
I just assumed he calls himself everyone uncle.. like that village guy everyone just refers to as uncle
The mission is called "Give 90 orbs to *your* uncle", not "to Uncle".
Oh hey Vivi I gotta ask you too, with the original jak and Daxter ps2 physical copy, did you get that map of the overall world of the game in general? Where it shows you where all the level locations are and hidden secrets too? That was honestly so cool I thought. I kind of wish I still had that to be honest, but then I traded it in for the ps3 HD trilogy collection, which I have downloaded on my ps4. Oh boy right? 😉
Don't forget the Uncle's note was also written on the map for the PS2 copy
No :(
Ratchet in Sora’s KH2 fit go hard
I think you should do a lore video about The Grizz. I think hes incredibly interesting
Hmm....
@@VtnVivi I mean, I think he is at least. Most of the 4th game I feel gets disrespected by alot of the fanbase
I think alot of the plot holes were mainly due to the fact they had basically 5 year total to make the entire series, and they writers just forgot plot points. Cuase wtf is that thing that comes out of the precurson stone? Samus would have had to hide the time cart keira built and rift gate behind the 100 powercell door himself. So many plot holes in this game series.
What if it's Dexter's uncle and therefore jaks uncle by friendship
Even as a kid I kinda felt like he was just his close friend, not Uncle
What if when they made the precursor legacy they didn't think it all through and didn't have the whole time travel thing in mind.
I think after Jak 1 your supposed to just forget about jaks uncle and I think naughty dog did this on purpose because obviously he's never seen in any of the other games, basically they were trying to make it as if he never even existed
From a technical point of view yes.
I think that is the case but it didn’t work. And here we are ..
@@Mr.PR2000 he's the Angela cross of jak and daxter
I will note this, when Jak's Uncle insults daxter and calls him small and miserably ugly, he's actuallu refering to Daxter as of he was not in the room because he doesn't recognize him in that form. When he calls him small annoying and miserably ugly, he is definitely takking about his human form.
Personally Ive always just thought of him as Jak's real great great great great great great great great grandfather or uncle,but tgat Samos just arrived in the village eventually with Jak and just told the Explorer that Jak was his relative who's parents passed away or something. Jak's uncle then taking him in and giving Jak his love for exploring.
And Im gonna assume him disappearing isnt something bigger than "he's only gone for a couple days/months and the only reason he "disappears" is cause the metalheads destroy the world shortly after he leaves anyways. I have doubts he ever knew anything more. Samos re alistically just kinda reveres Jak's uncle as a great explorer but realistiy provably ony brings it up yo Jak because for Jak it's his only relative and it matters to him.
Are you implying the uncle escaped as to protect his bloodline?
Maybe jaks uncle is jak himself, and maybe the warrior is mar? what if the precursor stone/egg originates from Tess and Daxter and he kept it safe for them, would explain the gem collections, a cover to disguise his true goals. it would explain the orbs and travel too, knowing whats soon to happen old fart jak would leave to protect the stone/egg.
I wonder how that stone egg gets produced though.
@@VtnVivi lots of ideas. I've been thinking maybe its more of a chrysalis than an egg. however From what it seems its basically just a special type of eco crystal, maybe its just a holding cell for the energy stage of its life cycle. Or, maybe it comes out small and feeds off of eco like metal head eggs and then hatches with some kind of trigger or signal?
Can you do... just who is the Sculptor guy and his Muse I wondering if that Muse cat is the rare and last animal to exsist? in Jak and Daxter the precursor legacy. And JAK 2 kid Jak has a Dog only appear the second game and not anymore.
I always wondered what happened to that dog! Probably died from old age.
@@VtnVivi Or was killed by Metalheads or those Dark creature from JAK 3?
@@davidosclay852 They probably forgot about him just like they forgot about Keira.
If this video end with we will never know 😤😤😤😂
I thought he was only called uncle because jak would look up to him when he was a kid and listen to all of his stories, I didnt think he was actually related to jak since they share no resemblance apart from the clothes similar to jak and that could've just been because jak saw him as a role model as a child and liked to dress similar to him
Thanks for watching :D
Vtnvvi do you think the giant gem Marty and Willard are digging out is an Eco gem?
Hmm.. Never thought about that :O
Uncle is Mar, fight me
no
Me: (sees thumb nail) TOOK YA LONG ENOUGH
Hehe :P
@@VtnVivi like for real I've been waiting for somebody to do a video on this for like 2-3 years
What really bogles my mind if jak was pumped with dark eco yes and yes it should of killed him but when dexter fell into it he became the otsle.but what bothers me is how is jack unchanged physically after he canges from dark jack.
Dark eco affects people differently. Remember, Jak had a shot of light eco in the first game which probably played a role.
True i guess that does make more sence.also side note i do enjoy your vids cause honestly its a good little nostalgia trip
@@milesperhour2696 Thank you!
he has Jaks haircolour and clothes so they might be related tho
Or this "uncle" is actually just the man put in charge of raising Jak and has no actual relation to him. Samos probably didn't want his daughter, the soon-to-be only bachelorette in the village to look at the soon-to-be only bachelor in the village as a sibling, so he had "uncle" raise him instead. They decided he'd call him "uncle" because "father" would not have been appropriate, given Damas' status in Haven and Spargus.
But did Young Samos even know that Damos was Jak's father? Hmm....
I agree odds are he was just the man given the job to raise Jak since Samos couldn’t do it alone.