Thanks for this excellent video. I'm in the final stages of an interview with Synology. They are adding more products, many of which are NVRs and Video Management System. I suspect it will be positioned for residential to medium commercial. I come from the Physical Security space as a Security Integrator. NAS isn't my #1 priority as a Security Integrator, but it is something that is asked about from time to time. I'm more focused on NVRs than NAS units. However, if I get the position... I guess we may need to work together on a Trans-Atlantic video to dive deeper. Synology or Qnap. What's your opinion? I suspect you like the Synology since they gave you a product to test out. :) Have a great day.
One of my Synologys went dead one day. It was a year or two out of support but I contacted supported anyway. I sent it in and they sent me a new one by return of post, no charge. So as well as the boxes being great, their support is too.
@@PendelSteven I had a backup of the NAS that died as it was backed up to another NAS. Data should exist in three places one of which should be off site. Although the NAS was replaced the existing drives went into it so there was no need to restore data in this case
Took the plunge and bought into Synology a few years back. Never looked back! So easy to use and reliable. Now own two, so I can sync between two physical locations, so I have an offsite copy. If you’re hesitating - don’t - dive right in.
@@KaranRajpalNo subscription required. I think you need both NAS to be running on the same major release of DSM though - eg 7 and you’ll need to install some free packages and set it up.
@@KaranRajpal Synology C2 is subscription based that starts at 10 dollars for a year....Its not required, just another place to store and recover your data from:)
Nice job hitting some of what these can do. I have 15 Synology systems at this point and couldn’t be happier. I use the DS1821+ with eight 16tb drives. Capable of handling 7 editors, a media manager and live ingesting records. They are the best!
That's the 3-2-1 backup style: three copies of your data, on two separate types of media, and one is off-site. Well, two if you bring that external drive with you.
I’ve been using a Synology NAS for over 5 years, and they are truly technological marvels. From using them as media servers to backup solutions to cloud storage, they’re a treat. I could never be without one.
@@coolcat23 yeah, but the sw makes up for that, have another system for VM's and docker containers and then your all set to cover all your options, if thats your goal:) Its my plan going forward!
Thanks for a great video! I purchase the 1552+ today from B&H photo, along with three 8TB hard drives. Excited to set this up on my home at work and consolidate four LaCie drives and get all of my files in one centralized place (as well as in the cloud for disaster recovery).
As always an awesome video, as a non native English speaking person, I really enjoy your videos, You speak clearly and and most of all in a pace that even i can follow along with and understand what You are talking about, many "RUclipsrs" talk way too fast and don't articulate very well, in that You excel! and thats why I keep coming back to Your channel, informative, interesting and understandable content! and on top of that You seems like a really friendly and nice person!
Would be very interested on how you use Hazel. As a retired network engineer, I see the value in backing up your NAS... it's not overkill. Looks like you have a great backup system!
Great video Mark. As a fellow Mac and Synology NAS user (I still use my DS210j from back in 2010!) I find that as storage capacity increases, so does the required thinking when it comes to offsite/cloud backups. As something of a data hoarder, I'd be interested to know the thought processes you and other users employ when it comes to deciding what is deemed essential enough to backup to the cloud and the nature of the data which you're prepared to "risk" by keeping it local. Enjoy your hols.
I have a DS718+ that I run Plex specifically for. I've run out of room and am thinking of purchasing a DS1522+. Can I hook them up and not loose the data that I already have and continue expanding my movie collection?
Hi Mark I got this machine, DS1522+ and use Seagate Ironwolf 16GBs Had 1 HDD and bought 3 more Added one to it, took 27 hours, and got the same storage available, I figure it is due to SHR Now, i entered one more to the NAS, but this time I wanted to create a new storage pool I did, and it took no time to become available. But didn't know how to use it The idea was to separate the drive to backup from the one I won't backup... Could do it
OK Mark, where can I get the configuration in the video? I need to move from my Drobo to this... Love DS1522 + external + cloud solution that you provide here.
Thank you for this simple review. I’ve been contemplating a system like this for some time, albeit at a much reduced scale. I’d really like to get all of our family’s photos off our phones and stored on a secure place that is easily accessible. I would love to hear about what kind of security measures can or should be put in place and what might work for an “average Joe” like myself. Thanks much. Love your reviews.
If you want to have it completely automated and realtime (as in backing up from phones immediately after being taken) and also get all the great backup- and security features of DSM (the operating system) you need at least a plus model. The cheapest one is the 220+ that can take two drives. Cheaper then that and you probably need to have more of a manual process in place. As he says in the video, you can attach an external drive to a router and use that as a backup disk. But then you won't get most of the cool software that comes with Synologys NAS:es.... Including several backup solutions.
I'm not a techy person and at the moment my photos are simply backed up to Lacie 2bigs running on RAID1 plus a separate single disk drive where I copy everything from the Lacies to as a second (third?) back-up (just like how you connected that extra drive to the Synology in the video, except I need to manually copy and paste the files over and a hassle to make sure it is an accurate copy). As someone who has never used a NAS drive before, it would interesting to learn what to do once you fill up those 5 drive slots (do I buy more drives, unscrew the drives and screw new ones on, or would I need to buy a new enclosure?); does that extra drive you plugged in to the side automatically mirror the rest of the Synology drives?; why does it need as much as 4 ethernet ports (while I've just been using WiFi for everything...); what's the difference between NAS drives, what should one look out for? As you can probably tell, I'm a total newb to tech but nevertheless enjoying your videos (lately, trying to convince myself that an M1 Mac Mini is enough from your Mac Studio videos earlier this year). Cheers!
If I get one and install some drives, can I edit Final Cut projects from stored libraries on it? Will it be fast or do I need a different drive array? Maybe I need a drive array with SSD slots instead??
I predict you will fill that up with drives by the end of next year. This is definitely a 2 is 1 and 1 is none fix, although you have exceeded that now. I love that they offer a cloud storage system as well. I'm curious what that costs? I couldn't find that information on their website.
With Drobo in chapter 11 I could well be forced to look for a replacement for my 5D. I have a feeling the KEXTs won’t work in Ventura. The 5512+ is going to be my new solution. Unfortunately the drives in the Drobo are not supported. Looks like I will have to save up fro some new drives as well.
Why are the drives in the Drobo not supported?? 😩 I’m going through this now with my 5D3 and have 5 14TB SeaGate drives. Are you saying I can’t use those on this new synology system?
@@MSMImage Yours might be on the approved/supported list. Mine were not. It doesn't mean that won't work. Just not supported. I am going to buy a DS420j to backup the 1522 and will use the Drobo disks in there as I don't care if they are support in the backup
Keep in mind that there is disk drive noise on all Synology boxes - five 3.5" spinning drives, chattering as they seek and read/write is not going to be silent. I keep mine in my shed.
You may be interested to know that I have been dipping in and out of RUclips for the past 10 hours, as I work, have lunch etc. Every time I have opened RUclips, the algorithm has placed this video first, in the top left position. Surprisingly consistently, all day. I shall actually watch the video now.
I had a problem with noisy fans on a Synology NAS, making an abnormal and irritating noise. I contacted support which did not help at all and referred me to the seller. The seller let me try another unit which made the same abnormal and irritating fan noises (no hard drives installed). They use cheap fans with super cheap bearings and a rotor lock system so that they cannot easily be replaced with standard (better quality) fans. The 1Gb/s network connections were outdated years ago already and one proprietary 10Gb/s solution is not enough to make up for that. Synology's software is great, but their hardware is way behind the competition.
@@salto1994 The noise was caused by the fans. It could be heard without any disks installed. After I changed the fans (I swapped the cheap originals against Noctua fans), the noise was gone. FWIW, since then I bought another Synology NAS and this time the fans were quiet, in other words, not all of their cheap fan copies make that irritating noise.
@@salto1994 The one with the noisy fans was a DS420+. The same fans are used in a lot of models, though, and it seems to be a bit of a lottery whether they make the irritating ticking noise or not. As I wrote, the other one the shop used for comparison made the same ticking noises.
I do hope it's a backup system.... And not just a redundancy system. It's a backup system if it backups the files IN your computer - or in case of laptop with drives, the drives that are 'part of your system'. If you're writing away files to this... Then you're not backing them up; you're just writing them away to another volume that happens to be redundant, but that's not backup.
5:32 Ah. I see, now we are backing up. Don't get me wrong, I've used a mirror RAID in my system years ago, but the biggest gripe I've got with it is the rebuild. Can't acces the volume when its rebuilding. Now I don't know if that has changed, but I've gone off RAID and just use backup software to backup daily to another drive. That's backup. Not redundancy. With irritating rebuilds.
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How do you use your NAS?
got same shit!! so good!!!! fuck dropdick or googledrive or all this bullshit! hahahahahaha this is the step up!!!!!! love it!
Thanks for this excellent video. I'm in the final stages of an interview with Synology. They are adding more products, many of which are NVRs and Video Management System. I suspect it will be positioned for residential to medium commercial. I come from the Physical Security space as a Security Integrator. NAS isn't my #1 priority as a Security Integrator, but it is something that is asked about from time to time. I'm more focused on NVRs than NAS units. However, if I get the position... I guess we may need to work together on a Trans-Atlantic video to dive deeper. Synology or Qnap. What's your opinion? I suspect you like the Synology since they gave you a product to test out. :) Have a great day.
One of my Synologys went dead one day. It was a year or two out of support but I contacted supported anyway. I sent it in and they sent me a new one by return of post, no charge. So as well as the boxes being great, their support is too.
And that's why you backup a NAS.
Or you really use your NAS as a backup. So in this case he would have 14 TB in his system and the NAS has 14 TB.
@@PendelSteven I had a backup of the NAS that died as it was backed up to another NAS. Data should exist in three places one of which should be off site. Although the NAS was replaced the existing drives went into it so there was no need to restore data in this case
where do you buy it?
Took the plunge and bought into Synology a few years back. Never looked back! So easy to use and reliable. Now own two, so I can sync between two physical locations, so I have an offsite copy. If you’re hesitating - don’t - dive right in.
Do you need a subscription for the feature to work?
@@KaranRajpalNo subscription required. I think you need both NAS to be running on the same major release of DSM though - eg 7 and you’ll need to install some free packages and set it up.
@@hostler got it. Thank you very much!
@@KaranRajpal Synology C2 is subscription based that starts at 10 dollars for a year....Its not required, just another place to store and recover your data from:)
@@chucksw1 great! Thank you! Makes it easier to set up 3-2-1 I guess!
Nice job hitting some of what these can do. I have 15 Synology systems at this point and couldn’t be happier. I use the DS1821+ with eight 16tb drives. Capable of handling 7 editors, a media manager and live ingesting records. They are the best!
Hi Brian
What media manager
do you recommend?
I use
the DS1522+
Thanks
That's the 3-2-1 backup style: three copies of your data, on two separate types of media, and one is off-site. Well, two if you bring that external drive with you.
I’ve been using a Synology NAS for over 5 years, and they are truly technological marvels. From using them as media servers to backup solutions to cloud storage, they’re a treat. I could never be without one.
The new NASs from Synology with Ryzen CPUs are not great media servers, as they lack the hardware support for media transcoding.
@@coolcat23 yeah, but the sw makes up for that, have another system for VM's and docker containers and then your all set to cover all your options, if thats your goal:) Its my plan going forward!
Thanks for a great video! I purchase the 1552+ today from B&H photo, along with three 8TB hard drives. Excited to set this up on my home at work and consolidate four LaCie drives and get all of my files in one centralized place (as well as in the cloud for disaster recovery).
As always an awesome video, as a non native English speaking person, I really enjoy your videos, You speak clearly and and most of all in a pace that even i can follow along with and understand what You are talking about, many "RUclipsrs" talk way too fast and don't articulate very well, in that You excel! and thats why I keep coming back to Your channel, informative, interesting and understandable content! and on top of that You seems like a really friendly and nice person!
This is one of my favourite ever comments - thank you!
Would be very interested on how you use Hazel. As a retired network engineer, I see the value in backing up your NAS... it's not overkill. Looks like you have a great backup system!
Great video Mark. As a fellow Mac and Synology NAS user (I still use my DS210j from back in 2010!) I find that as storage capacity increases, so does the required thinking when it comes to offsite/cloud backups. As something of a data hoarder, I'd be interested to know the thought processes you and other users employ when it comes to deciding what is deemed essential enough to backup to the cloud and the nature of the data which you're prepared to "risk" by keeping it local. Enjoy your hols.
I have a DS718+ that I run Plex specifically for. I've run out of room and am thinking of purchasing a DS1522+. Can I hook them up and not loose the data that I already have and continue expanding my movie collection?
Mark, can my editors connect to this NAS remotely or does it have to be local?
Thank you, any issues with M1 or M2 Mac’s?
If i start with 2 drives, how should I set them up if I want to add another to the same volume in the future?
Hi Mark
I got this machine, DS1522+
and use Seagate Ironwolf 16GBs
Had 1 HDD and bought 3 more
Added one to it,
took 27 hours, and got
the same storage available,
I figure it is due to SHR
Now, i entered one more
to the NAS, but this time
I wanted to create a new storage pool
I did, and it took no time
to become available.
But
didn't know how to use it
The idea was to separate
the drive to backup
from the one I won't backup...
Could do it
switch from SHR to RAID5?
OK Mark, where can I get the configuration in the video? I need to move from my Drobo to this... Love DS1522 + external + cloud solution that you provide here.
Thank you for this simple review. I’ve been contemplating a system like this for some time, albeit at a much reduced scale. I’d really like to get all of our family’s photos off our phones and stored on a secure place that is easily accessible. I would love to hear about what kind of security measures can or should be put in place and what might work for an “average Joe” like myself. Thanks much. Love your reviews.
If you want to have it completely automated and realtime (as in backing up from phones immediately after being taken) and also get all the great backup- and security features of DSM (the operating system) you need at least a plus model. The cheapest one is the 220+ that can take two drives. Cheaper then that and you probably need to have more of a manual process in place. As he says in the video, you can attach an external drive to a router and use that as a backup disk. But then you won't get most of the cool software that comes with Synologys NAS:es.... Including several backup solutions.
What are the write and read speeds with SSD cache + 10Gb network card if you directly edit 4K videos in NAS?
Thanks for the video, im going to get a 1522+ soon!😀
I'm not a techy person and at the moment my photos are simply backed up to Lacie 2bigs running on RAID1 plus a separate single disk drive where I copy everything from the Lacies to as a second (third?) back-up (just like how you connected that extra drive to the Synology in the video, except I need to manually copy and paste the files over and a hassle to make sure it is an accurate copy). As someone who has never used a NAS drive before, it would interesting to learn what to do once you fill up those 5 drive slots (do I buy more drives, unscrew the drives and screw new ones on, or would I need to buy a new enclosure?); does that extra drive you plugged in to the side automatically mirror the rest of the Synology drives?; why does it need as much as 4 ethernet ports (while I've just been using WiFi for everything...); what's the difference between NAS drives, what should one look out for? As you can probably tell, I'm a total newb to tech but nevertheless enjoying your videos (lately, trying to convince myself that an M1 Mac Mini is enough from your Mac Studio videos earlier this year). Cheers!
I have DS1522+ with 18Tb+16tb+2tb+2tb+500 GB what do you recommend for SHR or RAID5?
Hallo! What kind of external hdd You use?
Do you apply encryption over the disks?
I couldn’t find the link to your video using your router and external drive for time machine backup.
If I get one and install some drives, can I edit Final Cut projects from stored libraries on it? Will it be fast or do I need a different drive array? Maybe I need a drive array with SSD slots instead??
If you're set to raid 1 mirroring, what are you using disc 5 (the odd disc( for
he can use the other 3 as another volume in the future when his 16TB gets full:)
just curious how much the cloud service is?
starts at 10 dollars for the whole year
What is a "rooter"?
The correct pronunciation for ‘router’.
@@MarkEllisReviews :)
a rooter is a tool that un clogs your drain pipes, a router is a network device that routes packets between networks:)
I predict you will fill that up with drives by the end of next year. This is definitely a 2 is 1 and 1 is none fix, although you have exceeded that now. I love that they offer a cloud storage system as well. I'm curious what that costs? I couldn't find that information on their website.
The 1522+ is 700 with no hard drives....
With Drobo in chapter 11 I could well be forced to look for a replacement for my 5D. I have a feeling the KEXTs won’t work in Ventura. The 5512+ is going to be my new solution. Unfortunately the drives in the Drobo are not supported. Looks like I will have to save up fro some new drives as well.
Why are the drives in the Drobo not supported?? 😩 I’m going through this now with my 5D3 and have 5 14TB SeaGate drives. Are you saying I can’t use those on this new synology system?
@@MSMImage Yours might be on the approved/supported list. Mine were not. It doesn't mean that won't work. Just not supported. I am going to buy a DS420j to backup the 1522 and will use the Drobo disks in there as I don't care if they are support in the backup
Congrats, Mark ... you've realised that a _backup solution_ isn't a _backup solution_ -- unless you have it in at _least_ three locations 👍
Is there a lot of fan noise ?
Nope.
Keep in mind that there is disk drive noise on all Synology boxes - five 3.5" spinning drives, chattering as they seek and read/write is not going to be silent. I keep mine in my shed.
Brilliant kit, used one for a while for backing up videos etc., so expandable and easy to use.
You may be interested to know that I have been dipping in and out of RUclips for the past 10 hours, as I work, have lunch etc. Every time I have opened RUclips, the algorithm has placed this video first, in the top left position. Surprisingly consistently, all day. I shall actually watch the video now.
I had a problem with noisy fans on a Synology NAS, making an abnormal and irritating noise. I contacted support which did not help at all and referred me to the seller. The seller let me try another unit which made the same abnormal and irritating fan noises (no hard drives installed). They use cheap fans with super cheap bearings and a rotor lock system so that they cannot easily be replaced with standard (better quality) fans. The 1Gb/s network connections were outdated years ago already and one proprietary 10Gb/s solution is not enough to make up for that. Synology's software is great, but their hardware is way behind the competition.
was it the NAS or the disk writing and reading?
@@salto1994 The noise was caused by the fans. It could be heard without any disks installed. After I changed the fans (I swapped the cheap originals against Noctua fans), the noise was gone. FWIW, since then I bought another Synology NAS and this time the fans were quiet, in other words, not all of their cheap fan copies make that irritating noise.
@@coolcat23 which nas did you buy if I may ask
@@salto1994 The one with the noisy fans was a DS420+. The same fans are used in a lot of models, though, and it seems to be a bit of a lottery whether they make the irritating ticking noise or not. As I wrote, the other one the shop used for comparison made the same ticking noises.
There is nothing wrong with having a back-up of a back-up of a back-up of a back-up of a back-up.
Check out Tailscale with the Synology. Secure global access
There no such thing as overkill when it comes to backup.
I do hope it's a backup system.... And not just a redundancy system.
It's a backup system if it backups the files IN your computer - or in case of laptop with drives, the drives that are 'part of your system'.
If you're writing away files to this...
Then you're not backing them up; you're just writing them away to another volume that happens to be redundant, but that's not backup.
5:32 Ah. I see, now we are backing up.
Don't get me wrong, I've used a mirror RAID in my system years ago, but the biggest gripe I've got with it is the rebuild. Can't acces the volume when its rebuilding. Now I don't know if that has changed, but I've gone off RAID and just use backup software to backup daily to another drive. That's backup. Not redundancy. With irritating rebuilds.