If people are to be paid, contracts must exist between both parties. Money is paid for services rendered, this must be detailed in a binding contract. Without contracts the NIL system will eventually implode.
As a former D1 athlete and 3x all american that got screwed by contracts, good for him. The playing field is more equal than ever, wish I was in this era of athletics.
@@Bc-sv7ge Agreed as to the need for legally enforceable written contracts. But, what is your interest in trying to place a cap on what an NCAA student athlete can secure in endorsement money?
I bet he would have been made a hero had he held a press conference and said “I was promised X amount of NIL to attend UNLV, I was never paid, but I will finish out my career with my team” I bet a bunch of people would have stepped up and gave him his bag. This wasn’t thought out too well.
I think the fact that they are 3-0 speaks volumes for him saying that he isn't getting what was promised. We have all been in scenarios where we felt we deserved a raise and we didn't, and we left.
10:33 Another way to get college paid for is to serve in the military! One thing that is not the case in this instance, but could come up in the future, is if the player grew up in poverty. If the player’s income will be used to prevent his family from being evicted from their home or to pay off overdue medical bills, then the choice becomes quitting on his team vs. his family.
"whether it's for selfless reasons, or selfish reasons". There are no "selfless" reasons in your scenarios, it's a choice between justified self-interest, or pure selfishness. The choice here isn't between good guy and bad guy, it's between bad guy and not-bad guy. Question, after this if you're a coach, do you trust this guy to be your QB?
Simple common law offer & acceptance. An offer is made, you accept it; you're obligated to perform under the terms of the agreement...nothing more, nothing less. If you exceed, you can negotiate more after your contract terms expire. If you provide less than the offerer expected that wasn't detailed, their loss.
The difference is this has nothing to do with the hc/other players. Its between the player and the nil collective. Colorado's qb dosent need nil cuz he lives off daddy money. Quit trying to play the victim card.
@@soboredrn-v8e this was the dumbest statement on RUclips… Travis hunter is the 2nd or 3rd highest paid player from NIL. The coach has something to do with that. Buddy gets ripped off by coaching staff, this has nothing to do with the HC… LMAO like I said before I’m about to start chalking the hate up to racism.
There were no (CONTRACT) between UNLV and Sluka. Just a verbal agreement & we all know this, without pen to paper, there is no case for any lawsuit. Sluka has his right to do whatever he wants & if I were him I'd done the same thing. The only mistake he made was taking someone's word & with that being said, hopefully he'll learn and all future player's learn from his mistake.
"Keep paying?" If Andy was offered a fullride, and then when he came to school and was shown it was a partial scholarship, would he keep going to school? Nope!
If he does not succeed and UNLV was 0-3, does that mean he would have paid back all his NIL? I think it is a two way street. Nobody is giving back NIL money... but they all want what they were told or more during the season.
Let’s just pull the plug on this whole big mess. This isn’t college football anymore. I’m not against kids getting paid. Let the NFL start a farm system like every other sport and just let colleges be for learning.
That is the way it works in normal employment. Let say you work for a company and are receiving 72000 and a competitor wants to hire you for same position at 96000. Who is not taking that job for same work. I think the actual scenario is the first one overall.
I think the most sensible and realistic way to handle nil is performance-based pay. Obviously give them money for coming to the school but a large portion needs to be what you actually do on the field remember the stuff we give a s*** about haha. All of this nonsense about 6 and 7 figures without proving a goddamn thing is ridiculous that doesn't work in real life
Have you seen that school who’s hiring him pay the buyout because that’s what a contract said? Yep. These players aren’t signing contracts and that’s the main problem.
This is like an NFL player sitting out because a team sponsor doesn't pay them for a commercial. His beef is with the collective, not his school. The collectives (sponsors) are not part of the school (employer).
@@deonbowser1814 it's not naive to know how collectives are set up AT THE MOMENT. Currently, NIL has nothing to do with the schools. Some of the schools have been more hands on in a pay for play scheme (Tennessee being a good example), but at the end of the day, the collectives are PHYSICALLY separate from the athletic departments. Donations to collectives don't gain ticket priority for ticket holders. The collectives work out the actual guarantees without directly involving coaches or ADs in the negotiations. They have separate budgets and are run by boosters. They are concerned with supporting the program, but also not having a negative ROI. When NCAA allows direct paying of players from the school, that may change, but at the moment, the collectives are still separate from the coaching/athletic departments and are operating on their own as an affiliated, but distinctly separate organization.
@@billwheeler7496 the schools send them over to the collective with the promise they take care of them. Coaches wouldn't promise numbers without knowing financials, especially after UF-Rashada Issue. So no...I find it doubtful they were given a dollar amount to promise. The collective would handle that itself.
When will University& NCAA legal teams get involved and draw up legit contracts with terms and conditions? This is getting extremely messy very quickly.
The NFL has rules and order because the NFL has the last word. NCAA is a "shit-show" because there is no governing body that has any power. NCAA is feckless and impotent, so the agents, athletes and each individual school are making up rules as they go along.
@@calebandrew4213 There's no law that says schools cannot pay. That's an NCAA rule, but the NCAA is feckless and powerless. The NCAA needs to get with the individual schools to come up with legit rules that they can enforce, like the NFL, otherwise, everyone is a free agent at any given time.
@@chopkong you’re right, the NCAA should’ve gotten ahead of NIL and started sharing TV contract money earlier. Instead, they tried to keep all the money for the schools (themselves). It it was court cases that prompted NIL to take place. So NCAA didn’t what the share their money with players, is it a surprise they are dragging their feet when NIL money to players allows them to keep all their TV contract money?
Man if people used that Same Mindset when it comes to Law .. That there are 3 sides of every story and Prosecutor Side Defendant Side and the truth.. And how the Truth will NEVER REALLY be known , n its all about who story sounds the best...
If he was getting a certain amount of money, but now they are 3- 0, It looks like the price just went up because the amount of money the school is making just increased. So if the school is making more money, why can't the player who is most responsible for the 3-0 record not be paid more. We are all in it together.
Ima guess that you’re a socialist and that’s fine and we’re just gonna disagree if that’s the case. But if he agreed to something that he said then he should have to fulfill upon that agreement. But if it’s true that the school didn’t uphold their end of the bargain then he is well within his right to sit and not play until they pay him what was agreed to. But the bonus thing is stupid and falls apart after a little bit of thinking
@@pleasenobotsjd1744 socialist? Something tells me you know very little about different government structures and how they are actually implemented in real life, not in theory. What a pathetic snd poorly thought out argument. If the company you work for begins increasing their profit above expectations and you are offered stock options or a performance-based bonus, you would turn it down because it’s “socialism”? Please. This isn’t about a hand-out. Should professional players not receive bonuses for winning championships also? When you are directly responsible for the success of a team, company, etc. you deserve to be compensated. I guess you’d rather the organization pocket the money and pray that “trickle-down economics” will finally work for once in four decades. 😂
@@pleasenobotsjd1744 Yea, go and say that to the Team owners who don't guarantee mutally agreed upon contracts and who then go and cut (cancel agreed upon contracts) players in the middle of contracts.. Go and tell them that they are Socialists..
@@pleasenobotsjd1744 you think that if somebody wants to break a contract that they are Socialists? So go and tell that to the NFL onwers who always cut (break) contracts and who never guarantee any contracts.. They are all socialists then in your opinion.
It's called a sit down strike until it's taken care of. If they're paying him what they agreed upon and he's out preforming the agreement. He could use that for a better deal next year
Coward… I get it he was promised money, but he should’ve never committed to a team if it was just for money. That’s recipe for disaster and it leaves his team in turmoil. Point #2, this is why contracts should be in place. It holds both parties accountable. If not, it’s like promising your kid a trip to Disney World and taking them to the county fair..
@@zplapplap agreed. But this shouldn’t have happened in the first place. Imagine NFL players in free agency agreeing to play for a team because of more money without a contract..
If, key word if he was promised xyz to play qb at unlv and he didn't get xyz then let them lose the rest of their games, again. This happened at texas a&m
If people are to be paid, contracts must exist between both parties. Money is paid for services rendered, this must be detailed in a binding contract. Without contracts the NIL system will eventually implode.
He isn't the first to do this. Other players have left over NIL issues that weren't fulfilled.
As a former D1 athlete and 3x all american that got screwed by contracts, good for him. The playing field is more equal than ever, wish I was in this era of athletics.
He was paid in full
He came back with an agent after the win and demanded 300k more on the spot.
Piece of crap move tbh
@@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429 They say that's not true so we're back at square one aren't we?
Thats the problem they aren't signing contracts.
Make them sign performance contracts that will stop the BS.
If they can show they already paid him then they can sue him for breach@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429
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They gave him only 3k
It was verbal why would his agent go off a verbal ? Contracts need to come in play and nil cap
@@Bc-sv7ge Agreed as to the need for legally enforceable written contracts. But, what is your interest in trying to place a cap on what an NCAA student athlete can secure in endorsement money?
He didn’t retain an agent until after they started winning. And the agent isn’t even registered to do business in that state.
I bet he would have been made a hero had he held a press conference and said “I was promised X amount of NIL to attend UNLV, I was never paid, but I will finish out my career with my team” I bet a bunch of people would have stepped up and gave him his bag. This wasn’t thought out too well.
He knows he only has 1 year left to play, and if he was not getting what was promised, then people strike... This isn't new.
He has less then 50% completions
3-0 though 😜
@@williamcowell1889shut up
Doesn't matter. A contract is a contract. Look at the NFL first rounders under underperforming.
@@TChalla007there wasnt a contract though…
@@SurferRC Then that's on him. it's still a bad look for the school and recruiting.
We'll be fine, had like 3 capable qb's.Malik Williams your up next 💪
I think the fact that they are 3-0 speaks volumes for him saying that he isn't getting what was promised. We have all been in scenarios where we felt we deserved a raise and we didn't, and we left.
The drama in college football is off the charts. I love it… Every day brings a new scene in the evolving soap opera of big time football…
10:33 Another way to get college paid for is to serve in the military!
One thing that is not the case in this instance, but could come up in the future, is if the player grew up in poverty. If the player’s income will be used to prevent his family from being evicted from their home or to pay off overdue medical bills, then the choice becomes quitting on his team vs. his family.
"whether it's for selfless reasons, or selfish reasons". There are no "selfless" reasons in your scenarios, it's a choice between justified self-interest, or pure selfishness. The choice here isn't between good guy and bad guy, it's between bad guy and not-bad guy.
Question, after this if you're a coach, do you trust this guy to be your QB?
Great points
Why wont these players unionize ?
Simple common law offer & acceptance. An offer is made, you accept it; you're obligated to perform under the terms of the agreement...nothing more, nothing less. If you exceed, you can negotiate more after your contract terms expire. If you provide less than the offerer expected that wasn't detailed, their loss.
So UNLV doesn’t have a culture problem? The kid isn’t selfish? This isn’t a clown show???
It’s a “case study” 😂😂 oh man
Imagine if this was Colorado Lord, have mercy
The difference is this has nothing to do with the hc/other players. Its between the player and the nil collective. Colorado's qb dosent need nil cuz he lives off daddy money. Quit trying to play the victim card.
@@soboredrn-v8eAre you mad!
@@1hermitcrab4u Not rlly just awnsering stupidity with reality.
@@soboredrn-v8e this was the dumbest statement on RUclips… Travis hunter is the 2nd or 3rd highest paid player from NIL. The coach has something to do with that. Buddy gets ripped off by coaching staff, this has nothing to do with the HC… LMAO like I said before I’m about to start chalking the hate up to racism.
You are only as good as your word as a man. Whoever broke their word (or contract) is in the wrong. Plain and simple.
There were no (CONTRACT) between UNLV and Sluka. Just a verbal agreement & we all know this, without pen to paper, there is no case for any lawsuit. Sluka has his right to do whatever he wants & if I were him I'd done the same thing. The only mistake he made was taking someone's word & with that being said, hopefully he'll learn and all future player's learn from his mistake.
"Keep paying?" If Andy was offered a fullride, and then when he came to school and was shown it was a partial scholarship, would he keep going to school? Nope!
And y’all wonder why Coach Prime says what he said.
Nobody wonders what deion says. Not a sincere bone in his body
If he does not succeed and UNLV was 0-3, does that mean he would have paid back all his NIL? I think it is a two way street. Nobody is giving back NIL money... but they all want what they were told or more during the season.
They have ruined the love for the game. It's a shame
The love from the school and teammates and fans doesn't feed your family. They are trying to guilt you into making things better and easier for them.
Never make an Emotional decision. Emotions don’t help u pay bills
He’s in school!!!!!
Go get an effing job. Oh wait….he did have one. Maybe he didn’t live up to what those paying nil money wanted???
@@gregorymoore1210 Ok Boomer
Never get an emotional attachment to a job . Keep everything as a business decision
Posting “Thank you” after about 2 months is wild. 😂
This can hurt your recruitment
He will be recruited if schools continue to believe that he can help them on the field.
Unlv recruitment
@@torreyharris5865 Understood. 👍🏽 I misinterpreted your comment.
Let’s just pull the plug on this whole big mess. This isn’t college football anymore. I’m not against kids getting paid. Let the NFL start a farm system like every other sport and just let colleges be for learning.
That is the way it works in normal employment. Let say you work for a company and are receiving 72000 and a competitor wants to hire you for same position at 96000. Who is not taking that job for same work. I think the actual scenario is the first one overall.
This isnt even how it works in the NFL. You know the professional league that follows this. These are student athelets.
That applies to everyone else except athletes according to the geniuses in the comments
What we do know. Is that he quit on his teammates.
They quit on him by not fulfilling obligations. Don't get it twisted.
Most of them probably support his decision and/or dont care
No
@@devinbraxton7117 Nothing is twisted. The only fact that everyone on Earth knows. Is that he quit on his teammates. Everything else is speculation.
His teammates paying his bills?
UNLV honestly would win without him! He is dookie
Cant wait to see the game on Saturday!!!😂😂😂
@@djboogieboy 😂😂 me too. Cant wait to till people realize no ONE player carries the team
@@YessahBlessah608 well see on Saturday if they dont need him!😂
@@djboogieboywe already know we dont😂
@@YessahBlessah608 k
I think the most sensible and realistic way to handle nil is performance-based pay. Obviously give them money for coming to the school but a large portion needs to be what you actually do on the field remember the stuff we give a s*** about haha. All of this nonsense about 6 and 7 figures without proving a goddamn thing is ridiculous that doesn't work in real life
Have you ever seen an Assistant Coach leave before a bowl game to accept a Head Coaching role at a different school? Yep.
Have you seen that school who’s hiring him pay the buyout because that’s what a contract said? Yep.
These players aren’t signing contracts and that’s the main problem.
This is like an NFL player sitting out because a team sponsor doesn't pay them for a commercial. His beef is with the collective, not his school. The collectives (sponsors) are not part of the school (employer).
One person gets it. The vast majority of people think that the money is coming directly from the schools.
Don't be naive!! They are representing the school!!!! They agreed to pay him $100k then saw him in action and now thinks he's not worth that amount
@@deonbowser1814 it's not naive to know how collectives are set up AT THE MOMENT.
Currently, NIL has nothing to do with the schools. Some of the schools have been more hands on in a pay for play scheme (Tennessee being a good example), but at the end of the day, the collectives are PHYSICALLY separate from the athletic departments. Donations to collectives don't gain ticket priority for ticket holders. The collectives work out the actual guarantees without directly involving coaches or ADs in the negotiations. They have separate budgets and are run by boosters. They are concerned with supporting the program, but also not having a negative ROI.
When NCAA allows direct paying of players from the school, that may change, but at the moment, the collectives are still separate from the coaching/athletic departments and are operating on their own as an affiliated, but distinctly separate organization.
Thats what it says on paper but you can bet the school makes all these promises when recruiting and represents it as their offer
@@billwheeler7496 the schools send them over to the collective with the promise they take care of them. Coaches wouldn't promise numbers without knowing financials, especially after UF-Rashada Issue. So no...I find it doubtful they were given a dollar amount to promise. The collective would handle that itself.
They Should get paid game by game at this point?
Seems like business to me. It's not a game anymore
Money changes the soul.
This is goofy. Weren't sports supposed to be extra on top of schooling?
That was before sports became a multi billion dollar industry.
Most of these kids will never see the NFL and some will never see a bigger paycheck than what they can now make playing college ball.
When will University& NCAA legal teams get involved and draw up legit contracts with terms and conditions? This is getting extremely messy very quickly.
The NFL has rules and order because the NFL has the last word. NCAA is a "shit-show" because there is no governing body that has any power. NCAA is feckless and impotent, so the agents, athletes and each individual school are making up rules as they go along.
As of now, schools are not allowed to be a part of NIL deals. Next year, UAAs will be allowed to pay in upwards of 20 mil, in my understanding
@@calebandrew4213 There's no law that says schools cannot pay. That's an NCAA rule, but the NCAA is feckless and powerless. The NCAA needs to get with the individual schools to come up with legit rules that they can enforce, like the NFL, otherwise, everyone is a free agent at any given time.
@@chopkong you’re right, the NCAA should’ve gotten ahead of NIL and started sharing TV contract money earlier. Instead, they tried to keep all the money for the schools (themselves). It it was court cases that prompted NIL to take place. So NCAA didn’t what the share their money with players, is it a surprise they are dragging their feet when NIL money to players allows them to keep all their TV contract money?
I think 🤔 a deal is a deal, get a lawyer kid and stay with the team
The end of college football as we knew it. And the beginning of the corporation of college minor league football. Money is now the driver for success.
This man is a QB who can’t throw the ball 🏈 are we dead serious ? Go look at film of these first 3 games 🤦🏾♂️🤔
thank you for ruining college football....greedy players first!!!!
Man if people used that Same Mindset when it comes to Law .. That there are 3 sides of every story and Prosecutor Side Defendant Side and the truth.. And how the Truth will NEVER REALLY be known , n its all about who story sounds the best...
He didn't quit he just opted out
Yep. Same characteristics. Only with one money was promised, the other the promise of money.
The people saying he opted out and didn't quit on his teammates the same people who are against 2 week notice...make it make sense
If he was getting a certain amount of money, but now they are 3- 0, It looks like the price just went up because the amount of money the school is making just increased. So if the school is making more money, why can't the player who is most responsible for the 3-0 record not be paid more. We are all in it together.
In fact, all of the players should be getting paid a bonus.
Ima guess that you’re a socialist and that’s fine and we’re just gonna disagree if that’s the case. But if he agreed to something that he said then he should have to fulfill upon that agreement. But if it’s true that the school didn’t uphold their end of the bargain then he is well within his right to sit and not play until they pay him what was agreed to. But the bonus thing is stupid and falls apart after a little bit of thinking
@@pleasenobotsjd1744 socialist? Something tells me you know very little about different government structures and how they are actually implemented in real life, not in theory. What a pathetic snd poorly thought out argument. If the company you work for begins increasing their profit above expectations and you are offered stock options or a performance-based bonus, you would turn it down because it’s “socialism”? Please. This isn’t about a hand-out. Should professional players not receive bonuses for winning championships also? When you are directly responsible for the success of a team, company, etc. you deserve to be compensated. I guess you’d rather the organization pocket the money and pray that “trickle-down economics” will finally work for once in four decades. 😂
@@pleasenobotsjd1744 Yea, go and say that to the Team owners who don't guarantee mutally agreed upon contracts and who then go and cut (cancel agreed upon contracts) players in the middle of contracts.. Go and tell them that they are Socialists..
@@pleasenobotsjd1744 you think that if somebody wants to break a contract that they are Socialists? So go and tell that to the NFL onwers who always cut (break) contracts and who never guarantee any contracts.. They are all socialists then in your opinion.
He was trash anyways lmao I wouldn’t pay him either
It's called a sit down strike until it's taken care of. If they're paying him what they agreed upon and he's out preforming the agreement. He could use that for a better deal next year
He as a qb average 2tds 100yds passing and 80yd rushing a game.... give that defense some credit
Can a player just state he is red shirting or does the school/program have to approve that?
It's Nothing For UNLV To Get A 100k From The School
thats not how NIL works. Schools cant pay NIL
Send this guy to Tallahassee! 😂Norvell’s about to hit up the Alpha Beta house for serviceable QB talent.
The losers will always be there. I paid for college. I sucked at school.
Coward… I get it he was promised money, but he should’ve never committed to a team if it was just for money. That’s recipe for disaster and it leaves his team in turmoil. Point #2, this is why contracts should be in place. It holds both parties accountable. If not, it’s like promising your kid a trip to Disney World and taking them to the county fair..
No. The player’s willingness to quit is the only thing currently holding the boosters accountable.
@@zplapplap agreed. But this shouldn’t have happened in the first place. Imagine NFL players in free agency agreeing to play for a team because of more money without a contract..
@@nathanjohnston26 Agreed. Its nuts. It’s the Wild West, and a lack of regulatory foundation for contracting is harming all involved.
This is what happens when you hire mercenaries
Nil shouldn’t be a payment upon completing 4 years at that school and graduating
How about ppl stop lying to kids point blank
@@JD8366yeah now he won’t play anywhere else. No one gonna risk
so other students can get paid while still in school but not athletes? Why is that? 🤔
@@KdDaBos Everybody not out here lying to players so I’m sure he’ll get pick up next year by a team for sure
@@JD8366well then they better shut down every college. Because they don’t teach. They indoctrinate, which is a lie.
As an FSU fan all I hear is there will be a good QB in the portal!
FSU should sue UNLV, then FSU should blame ESPN and have Florida politicians demand an investigation over this.
Good is relative. 😂 Norvell’s at the Alpha Beta house now looking for a serviceable QB.
@@zplapplap you right about that, but I would put my money on him over DJ any day of the week!
Serves them well for not honoring Sluka's performance. They tried to low ball him. Take your talent elsewhere young man.
If, key word if he was promised xyz to play qb at unlv and he didn't get xyz then let them lose the rest of their games, again. This happened at texas a&m
Are you talking about Walter Nolen?