Probably the most important thing he said, figure out the why, make your gear work for what your doing not the other way around. Very very good point. I think people rush head first into buy kit without really stopping to think first, why do I need this? when/where would I use this? Instead they just start buying stuff and then you wind up with generic kits like plates, 3 mag pouch placard and a baofeng with no one to talk to with it and no idea where/why you'd wear the armor. Not saying people shouldnt own it but coming from someone who's wasted a lot of money on kit because I hadn't really thought about the where/when/why and then build it from there. Also putting thought into camo/color pattern selection is also important depending on again the when/where/why.
Interesting cummerbund placement, I use the regular way with mine. Attached it to the harness and that's what gives me the stretch, but it isn't nearly as stretchy as that way, I'll give it a try
Very helpful for getting me to understand avs values. Ended up going in a different path. Just picked up a SPC and some maritime gear. I live in Washington so it rains a lot and I'm a little scared of drowning in shtf.
I currently use the crye spc. I had some severe back and hip injuries in the army and have dealt with pain issues ever since so I tried going as lightweight as I could with still maintaining a structural cumberbund but I keep wondering if the avs would be better for my back because of how it distributes the weight.
My back is also completely f***ed and I also tried a lot of setups and I‘m now stuck with the crye CPC and can also carry heavy loads without any problems. In my experience no matter how light you make setups with other platecarriers you‘ll have backpain no matter what. With the cpc I have zero problems
I loved my SPC. A lot more rigid than the JPC but a lot more stripped down than the AVS. A few friends of mine had an AVS and we'd use each others kits while shooting and I found the SPC very comparable to the load-capacity and rigidity of the AVS, so I'd say stick with the SPC. If you need a higher carrying ability you should go to the CPC from the SPC, in my opinion.
The harness seems like a real great way to carry load. The system has a high price point as a barrier for entry. If you buy the harness first, are there any other plate bags that are less expensive that can be rigged to work?
Seems like only L4 Performance and even then it’s not worth it. Crye is the way to go unless you’re gonna mod the hell out of an Emerson or Ars Arma copy.
Damn bro, i ordered from the crye website for my JPC2.0 and it was like a 9 month wait time for them to ship it to me, so i ordered from another website that sells actual crye JPC2.0 and got it within the month.
Awesome Plate Carrier. I am currently running an Agilite PC, which is great, but I am willing to upgrade to CP AVS, which is exactly like your setup. Could you please describe the configuration? I just want to copy and paste it on the CP website to avoid any mistakes. Thank you and looking forward. Andre
So I have a jpc1 and it’s nice but I’m definitely looking for an upgrade. Would you recommend the avs for general purpose larping? Looking to take some cqb classes a just have something little more one size fits all general gear. Or is it over kill
Just so we’re clear…your rib cage does expand upon inspiration. Your intercostal muscles contract along with your diaphragm to bring your ribs up and out
Im debating on getting this to replace my crye jpc 2.0 and ana tactical m2 plate carrier, or in thinking on getting a warrior assault systems dcs base plate carrier
I’d like to put together my own kit but I’m a little overwhelmed with all the gear and options I see in videos. I’ve heard of the Crye brand and from what I see it’s great quality but still don’t know where to start. The kit shown here for example seems to be made up of many different parts and brands etc. I thought I’d be watching a video explaining the plate carrier itself but apparently it has many aftermarket parts and accessories added to it which confuses me even more. I wish I could just buy a plate carrier with all the pouches and crap already on it and cut out most of the confusion. I do train handgun and carbine a few times per week on my personal range but I’d like to be trading in full kit to step it up. Id appreciate if you can point me I. The right direction of any videos about building kit for someone starting from scratch. Thanks.
Depends on how much you want to spend. If you want a good simple starter plate carrier, I’d go with the T-Rex arms AC1 or Ferro Concepts Slickster with a decent placard that can hold primary and secondary mags. Get a good gun belt and holster, some mag pouches for your gun belt (I like the T-Rex arms KYWI mag pouches), a dump pouch and an IFAK and you’d be good to go. Start off simple, and as you learn more and figure out what best meets your needs, upgrade your kit from there.
@@laeggroll777 I’d be willing to pay whatever. Money isn’t an issue. The issue I’m having is learning what all these different pieces are called, the lingo etc. I can’t find a video where each and every single piece of kit is described and explained in great detail. They all assume you already know so much. For example in your reply. You can find anything on the internet if you know what to search for specifically. That is where the problem lies. I’m familiar with weapons all day. I’m a veteran but we didn’t have any of the gear you see in use today. I been out of the military over 20 years. I just need more specifics on what to buy and what my options are. It’s been so frustrating to say the least.
When you go to the crye website they have user manuals for the AVS. You can download that in a PDF and then review it. It goes through the different options as well as how to actually set them up. I know what you mean when you say it's overwhelming. It is... The other fun part is when you buy from Crye they send it individually packaged. So you buy components and then have to build your carrier before being able to wear it. It took me well over an hour to get the shock cord etc. just right for my body. I'm sure I could do it faster now but the first time took a bit and was frustrating. The AVS is a beast. Had I known my changing preferences I would've gone AVS over the SPC simply for the AVS harness system.
@@mortarmantvif you have any gear questions, I’m your man. I’d be happy to help you navigate the gear buying process and explain what everything is and what they are called
I think they have to create a bit lighter version of it out of tegris and remove some unnecessary features, AVS with 3 band cummberbund is around 2 kg empty, it's too much
What is this setup? PTT with button facing up at the highest point of the plate bag, cummerbund just bungeed to the harness, using a candy/admin pouch instead of the built in Admin pouch in the plate bag, a single 1L Nalgene(mounted front and center) as "sustainment" My guy...
LE setups are different than Military setups big dog. Us military folks are very used to the full on 90lb combat loadout plate carrier setup, but LE doesn’t require that. So they can set their stuff up with a bit more exquisiteness. So if it works for him then so be it. For us, literally the radio, admin, mag, frag, & smoke pouches took over all of the molle space on our shit lmao.
I'm looking into carriers. How does something like the avs or another carrier with buckles on the shoulders work compared to one that doesn't (like a jpc) when it comes to stock placement? Does it hinder placement, sit underneath, or snag slings or anything like that?
Every PC with larger shoulder pads will have some effect on stock placement because of the extra material. However, when choosing a PC that should not be a significant factor and if it is, it's a training issue on your part. The AVS was designed for optimal weight distribution while using a medium-profile system that doesn't encompass you like the CAGE does. The JPC was designed to be low profile enough to be worn under a harness for Airborne and MFF operations. 2 totally different philosophies of use.
@@DJ-fd4qk makes sense thanks for that info. I only ask because of never wearing one, it's something people suggest you have to train around, but wasn't sure if one style was more of an impact than another with regards to that. Ideally, I'd like to not be buying multiple pc just to find out something as minimal as a buckle causes me issues and then asking around people are like duh thats commonly known.
@@matthewriegner5180 honestly, unless you're expecting to carry a full combat loadout which is 7 mags (210 rounds) plus comms, water, IFAK, and sustainment items, the AVS isn't needed. It's expensive for what the average person will use it for because 90% of non-military people won't actually reap the benefits of the harness system, so you're better off using a lighter, simpler carrier like the Defense Mechanisms MEPC, Mayflower/Velocity APC and Scarab, Crye JPC 2.0, HRT RAC, etc.
@@matthewriegner5180 for sure brother. Biggest advice is to buy gear that is centered around your specific needs. Lots of guys on the internet buy gear because “XYZ Special Forces” use it or because it’s cool and they want clout, but in reality gear tailored for you, that you train with, with be what makes you perform.
It’s intended to be built and customized by the customer. I would not suggest buying direct from Crye bc their inventory is notoriously not up to date. Buy from a distributor that actually tracks inventory like OP Tactical, etc
This is my first video of yours I have ever watched, just got some soft critique. You may want to change the title because the current title leads an audience to believe that this is specifically about the AVS Plate Carrier. This video feels more like your personal plate carrier and how you built it with items no one can acquire. You have a sick ass plate carrier but I was genuinely looking for info about the avs plate carrier. Love the first bit about how its stiff etc tho : D
@@oriontraininggroupllc2782dead serious did some googling and I can’t find any significant correlation to hormone disruption. Do you have any other resources. I’m new to the channel and am also Louisiana based and hope to take some courses with y’all.
@@colbycrossman9295 The amount of soy you would need to consume to suffer any negative consequence would already kill you. You're fine, eat/drink whatever.
that was my thought as well, i was skeptical of his comments but also genuinely interested in additional information but the nhs is usually pretty good at this kind of thing@@pakman184
What is the point of talking about training? You won't get anything out of it until you *actually train.* For hours. Unlike certain aspects of gear, that one can easily get across just through talking. Also: "Sample text" LMAO.
I still can’t stand cobra after they got muddy and jammed up. We just went prone on a normal qual range. I will take all these other clips and all that over cobra
Dose anyone know the answer to this question. If I purchase the medium avs plate pouches because I assume they fit the 10x12 plates but purchase a small harness because I am skinny will the medium pouches work with the small harness ?
I like the AVS cuz it has two 4-sloters, has stomach protection and repairs very well - it's a beast early-wipe when not much else is availab- oh.
Yeah but it's an odd trade.
I love the attitude he has toward our unhealthy consumerism vs our dislike for learning hard skills and how he embraces it.
If you buy useless overpriced shit without actually needing it or at least LARPing with it, you probably needed that ;)
From one Crye AVS enjoyer to another: nice setup
I agree that MultiCam Tropic is the coolest pattern. Therefore, I agree that your plate carrier setup is awesome.
L retard take, coolest camo is kryptec mandrake and jungle stripe. Now u cant even compare gods plad… m81.
ATACS is cooler. I will die on this hill
@@orpheusepiphanes2797 no
Wow wish i knew about the avs harness system and how adaptable this plate carrier was. Thanks for this info.
all i can think about is how crispy those garage beers in the white refrigerator must be
Spotted Cow, very crispy
Haircut hippy😂 love your channel. Look forward to each drop.
It’s been cut a few times since then 😂
Good morning, I have 2 spots for next weekends training. Can I get the address? Sorry unable to find a phone number
@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 we can help ;)
Probably the most important thing he said, figure out the why, make your gear work for what your doing not the other way around. Very very good point.
I think people rush head first into buy kit without really stopping to think first, why do I need this? when/where would I use this? Instead they just start buying stuff and then you wind up with generic kits like plates, 3 mag pouch placard and a baofeng with no one to talk to with it and no idea where/why you'd wear the armor. Not saying people shouldnt own it but coming from someone who's wasted a lot of money on kit because I hadn't really thought about the where/when/why and then build it from there. Also putting thought into camo/color pattern selection is also important depending on again the when/where/why.
Hahaha "I still love you, even though you dissappoint me..." sounds like my life😅
I’ve been looking for a decent avs review, and you nailed it. I’ve been contemplating adding the tubes like you did!
MCT is the drip, I need one of these in my life 🔥
0:41 S A M P L E T E X T
We need to see a review or breakdown of your Bison Belt Setup!
1:56 That exact line needs to be Crye's new slogan. Crye Starfish hugs....from the bag. #Coltwasneverhere
Interesting cummerbund placement, I use the regular way with mine. Attached it to the harness and that's what gives me the stretch, but it isn't nearly as stretchy as that way, I'll give it a try
Spartan 2 MJOLNIR armor system? Sold!
Very helpful for getting me to understand avs values. Ended up going in a different path. Just picked up a SPC and some maritime gear. I live in Washington so it rains a lot and I'm a little scared of drowning in shtf.
The shade on ferro made me lol
I currently use the crye spc. I had some severe back and hip injuries in the army and have dealt with pain issues ever since so I tried going as lightweight as I could with still maintaining a structural cumberbund but I keep wondering if the avs would be better for my back because of how it distributes the weight.
My back is also completely f***ed and I also tried a lot of setups and I‘m now stuck with the crye CPC and can also carry heavy loads without any problems. In my experience no matter how light you make setups with other platecarriers you‘ll have backpain no matter what. With the cpc I have zero problems
I loved my SPC. A lot more rigid than the JPC but a lot more stripped down than the AVS.
A few friends of mine had an AVS and we'd use each others kits while shooting and I found the SPC very comparable to the load-capacity and rigidity of the AVS, so I'd say stick with the SPC. If you need a higher carrying ability you should go to the CPC from the SPC, in my opinion.
The harness seems like a real great way to carry load. The system has a high price point as a barrier for entry. If you buy the harness first, are there any other plate bags that are less expensive that can be rigged to work?
Seems like only L4 Performance and even then it’s not worth it. Crye is the way to go unless you’re gonna mod the hell out of an Emerson or Ars Arma copy.
The avs is my favourite plate carrier, followed by the jpc
What do u think of the new type r ?
@JamieFaux-qi6ip so many useless features and it's just a glorified JPC
I like the gear breakdowns... But i prefer personallyand appreciat the tactics and life saving skills videos more.
I wish there was a list of gear/links to build this plate carrier. I know some are bespoke and custom made. But it’d be nice for the other pieces.
Can you guys do a video on CQB communication, both verbal and non-verbal?
I love my Cry JPS 2.0.... well, I would if they would ever shipped it to me. I ordered it almost 3 months ago
Damn bro, i ordered from the crye website for my JPC2.0 and it was like a 9 month wait time for them to ship it to me, so i ordered from another website that sells actual crye JPC2.0 and got it within the month.
Why would you order form cryes website 😂 they have famously insane lead times
@@ProA-kv2jv ha, well now I know...
Awesome Plate Carrier. I am currently running an Agilite PC, which is great, but I am willing to upgrade to CP AVS, which is exactly like your setup. Could you please describe the configuration? I just want to copy and paste it on the CP website to avoid any mistakes. Thank you and looking forward. Andre
Watch this video, andre
I just looked they sell multicam tropic now
So I have a jpc1 and it’s nice but I’m definitely looking for an upgrade. Would you recommend the avs for general purpose larping? Looking to take some cqb classes a just have something little more one size fits all general gear. Or is it over kill
I like my avs much more after this video. Thanks!)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool carrier. Real question though. Why are you left handed?
Paul Howe showed how to use a bungee cord to prevent plate bag choking, see Tac Pistol Operator dvd
Damn. Whay more advanced than meets the eyeballs.
Just so we’re clear…your rib cage does expand upon inspiration. Your intercostal muscles contract along with your diaphragm to bring your ribs up and out
*SAMPLE TEXT*
“Get up in there nice and deep like..” LOL
What size AVS harness do you use and what’s you’re height and weight?
6 foot, 215, large
@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 appreciate the reply!
Im debating on getting this to replace my crye jpc 2.0 and ana tactical m2 plate carrier, or in thinking on getting a warrior assault systems dcs base plate carrier
No expense spared by Texas Loot with the ad there
Only the best for our boys at TL
Liked and comment for the HALO knowledge.
I’d like to put together my own kit but I’m a little overwhelmed with all the gear and options I see in videos. I’ve heard of the Crye brand and from what I see it’s great quality but still don’t know where to start. The kit shown here for example seems to be made up of many different parts and brands etc. I thought I’d be watching a video explaining the plate carrier itself but apparently it has many aftermarket parts and accessories added to it which confuses me even more. I wish I could just buy a plate carrier with all the pouches and crap already on it and cut out most of the confusion. I do train handgun and carbine a few times per week on my personal range but I’d like to be trading in full kit to step it up. Id appreciate if you can point me I. The right direction of any videos about building kit for someone starting from scratch. Thanks.
Maybe try using a basic plate carrier without much if any add-ons then build it up as you see fit.
Depends on how much you want to spend. If you want a good simple starter plate carrier, I’d go with the T-Rex arms AC1 or Ferro Concepts Slickster with a decent placard that can hold primary and secondary mags. Get a good gun belt and holster, some mag pouches for your gun belt (I like the T-Rex arms KYWI mag pouches), a dump pouch and an IFAK and you’d be good to go. Start off simple, and as you learn more and figure out what best meets your needs, upgrade your kit from there.
@@laeggroll777 I’d be willing to pay whatever. Money isn’t an issue. The issue I’m having is learning what all these different pieces are called, the lingo etc. I can’t find a video where each and every single piece of kit is described and explained in great detail. They all assume you already know so much. For example in your reply. You can find anything on the internet if you know what to search for specifically. That is where the problem lies. I’m familiar with weapons all day. I’m a veteran but we didn’t have any of the gear you see in use today. I been out of the military over 20 years. I just need more specifics on what to buy and what my options are. It’s been so frustrating to say the least.
When you go to the crye website they have user manuals for the AVS. You can download that in a PDF and then review it. It goes through the different options as well as how to actually set them up. I know what you mean when you say it's overwhelming. It is... The other fun part is when you buy from Crye they send it individually packaged. So you buy components and then have to build your carrier before being able to wear it. It took me well over an hour to get the shock cord etc. just right for my body. I'm sure I could do it faster now but the first time took a bit and was frustrating.
The AVS is a beast. Had I known my changing preferences I would've gone AVS over the SPC simply for the AVS harness system.
@@mortarmantvif you have any gear questions, I’m your man. I’d be happy to help you navigate the gear buying process and explain what everything is and what they are called
You ever gonna discuss your breaching shotgun setup ? Iv need it in a few vids and posts.
Yeah
I think they have to create a bit lighter version of it out of tegris and remove some unnecessary features, AVS with 3 band cummberbund is around 2 kg empty, it's too much
Who makes the chest rig portion just below the candy pouch?
Solid info good job
So, do you need a cummerbund overtop of the harness or can it work without it? I can't tell is the harness attached secure enough for that or not
You need the cummerbund.
Or you can attach clips to the harness and they tie into the carrier, essentially combining the cummerbund with the harness
What was the training group you referred to?
What is this setup?
PTT with button facing up at the highest point of the plate bag, cummerbund just bungeed to the harness, using a candy/admin pouch instead of the built in Admin pouch in the plate bag, a single 1L Nalgene(mounted front and center) as "sustainment"
My guy...
LE setups are different than Military setups big dog. Us military folks are very used to the full on 90lb combat loadout plate carrier setup, but LE doesn’t require that. So they can set their stuff up with a bit more exquisiteness. So if it works for him then so be it. For us, literally the radio, admin, mag, frag, & smoke pouches took over all of the molle space on our shit lmao.
IQ65 comment
@@robertomaganajr1838 >legit feedback on potential problems with a kit setup
>IQ65
OK bud
I been trying to get the plate carrier!!! They haven't shipped it. Where can I get one please help
I enjoy all your video even the ones about the shit you own.
I'm looking into carriers. How does something like the avs or another carrier with buckles on the shoulders work compared to one that doesn't (like a jpc) when it comes to stock placement? Does it hinder placement, sit underneath, or snag slings or anything like that?
Every PC with larger shoulder pads will have some effect on stock placement because of the extra material. However, when choosing a PC that should not be a significant factor and if it is, it's a training issue on your part.
The AVS was designed for optimal weight distribution while using a medium-profile system that doesn't encompass you like the CAGE does. The JPC was designed to be low profile enough to be worn under a harness for Airborne and MFF operations. 2 totally different philosophies of use.
@@DJ-fd4qk makes sense thanks for that info. I only ask because of never wearing one, it's something people suggest you have to train around, but wasn't sure if one style was more of an impact than another with regards to that.
Ideally, I'd like to not be buying multiple pc just to find out something as minimal as a buckle causes me issues and then asking around people are like duh thats commonly known.
@@matthewriegner5180 honestly, unless you're expecting to carry a full combat loadout which is 7 mags (210 rounds) plus comms, water, IFAK, and sustainment items, the AVS isn't needed. It's expensive for what the average person will use it for because 90% of non-military people won't actually reap the benefits of the harness system, so you're better off using a lighter, simpler carrier like the Defense Mechanisms MEPC, Mayflower/Velocity APC and Scarab, Crye JPC 2.0, HRT RAC, etc.
@@DJ-fd4qk much appreciated! Thanks for the insight.
@@matthewriegner5180 for sure brother. Biggest advice is to buy gear that is centered around your specific needs. Lots of guys on the internet buy gear because “XYZ Special Forces” use it or because it’s cool and they want clout, but in reality gear tailored for you, that you train with, with be what makes you perform.
I just went on the Crye website. I'm a civilian, is it normal that it's sold "deconstructed"?
It’s intended to be built and customized by the customer. I would not suggest buying direct from Crye bc their inventory is notoriously not up to date. Buy from a distributor that actually tracks inventory like OP Tactical, etc
This is my first video of yours I have ever watched, just got some soft critique. You may want to change the title because the current title leads an audience to believe that this is specifically about the AVS Plate Carrier. This video feels more like your personal plate carrier and how you built it with items no one can acquire. You have a sick ass plate carrier but I was genuinely looking for info about the avs plate carrier. Love the first bit about how its stiff etc tho : D
Everything on it can be acquired, just not in this pattern.
How does the fcpc v5 compare
How would a drag strap choke your buddy out?
Because the carrier goes with the person dragging, and inertia keeps the injuried person in a static position until the plate reaches their throat.
Plate gets pulled into his chin as the carrier moves up
a starfish kiss......from the back.
why do you like a bottle over a hydration bladder with a hose?
Bottle won’t pop and bleed, is easier to refill, etc.
I talk about it in our water purification video at length
right on ! good to know. you guys are awesome! @@oriontraininggroupllc2782
I miss Mitchell’s garage
Crazy how he has used it for 6 years but there is no sweat grime or fraying on anything...
He was LE not a soldier and they primarily teach CQB not field craft. Chill out.
6 years? When did I say that? Lol
this is based gtg
I want a starfish to give me a kiss, maybe i need one of these.
Why does the CQB reddit hate these guys so bad?
Because they are doing a great job and Reddit realizes they don't know what they are doing and are lashing out
Because they’re cops. “Woke” dudes on Reddit try to fit into the crowd and hate on cops. The obsession with cops is actually hilarious.
The obsession with the hatred of cops, is what’s hilarious 🤣. Kind of like a mental disorder.
Reddit is a cancer, and anyone taking themselves seriously on there deserves to be ignored.
@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 agreed.
Love your video but what’s up with the soy comment?
Google what soy does to the male hormone balance.
@@oriontraininggroupllc2782dead serious did some googling and I can’t find any significant correlation to hormone disruption. Do you have any other resources. I’m new to the channel and am also Louisiana based and hope to take some courses with y’all.
@@colbycrossman9295 The amount of soy you would need to consume to suffer any negative consequence would already kill you. You're fine, eat/drink whatever.
that was my thought as well, i was skeptical of his comments but also genuinely interested in additional information but the nhs is usually pretty good at this kind of thing@@pakman184
Sample text lol, good video though.
Seems like im not the only one that noticed haha
But will it kiss your chocolate star fish
Get a water bladder
No. They break easily and are a pain to deal with.
10:00 that flag should be upside down
Don’t eat soy all these things will help you in your life 😂
What is the point of talking about training? You won't get anything out of it until you *actually train.* For hours. Unlike certain aspects of gear, that one can easily get across just through talking. Also: "Sample text" LMAO.
Sample text
Dawg what’s with the hair
I still can’t stand cobra after they got muddy and jammed up. We just went prone on a normal qual range. I will take all these other clips and all that over cobra
@@assclapper2231 its a thing lmao
That crap is dead weight. Youll over heat, get dehydrated, and get wrecked.
Thank you Oscar Bear 7 4 9 8 for the wisdom
Drink more water, soldier. #SkillIssue
Dose anyone know the answer to this question. If I purchase the medium avs plate pouches because I assume they fit the 10x12 plates but purchase a small harness because I am skinny will the medium pouches work with the small harness ?
Yes any of the harnesses work with the plate bags
Lmao how are people just now realizing what a AVS dose😂. Talks about placard, says nothing and leaves. Chad!!
quit eating soy. based.