World of Warships - Conquered
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- Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024
- Conqueror 101: Hug the map border, fire nothing but HE and always try to save as much of your health as possible for the next battle. Not everyone appears to have gotten that memo...
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conqueror heal: "Break out the 3d printer Nigel, we gotta build another ship here real quick"
"Having Jingles on your deck shouting British insults at the planes will likely be more effective as a plane deterrent than turning on your AA" -Flamu, 15 Aug 2018
Bryan Wong can you provide the clip of Flamu saying that? I'd love to see it.
It's from Flamu's recent video on the Cossack. About at the 6:40 mark.
Thank you.
" A Conquerer shooting AP is like the Spanish Inquisition.... Nobody expects it."
-Jingles,2018
Basti R-Line ,,I didn't expect some kind of spanish inquisition"
of all the shells he fired, more than half were AP.
in a conqueror.
truly made me look up into the sky for fear of being crushed by a pig.
Don't know which is scarier. AN HE spamming Conq or a Conq driver who knows how to use both. Think I will go with B. Nice replay
You can forgive the Moskva for sailing broadside on to a Conqueror initially, you can't forgive his refusal to change tactics even after being citadeled by clearly not HE.
And twice at that... you'd think maybe after the first one a sharp player would learn... and after the second one a not so sharp player would learn... which then says something about the mental acuity of this particular Moskva player for leaving himself open to a 3rd broadside strike... ;o)
I just realized something... We always say "oh, full health Conqueror at the end of the match", but with that heal of his, he could've been fighting the entire time at the other end of the map, defended that flank and used his repair on his way to re-join the fight...
not really. The heal only heals back 90% of he damage and 100% of fire and flooding, so unless it was destroyer caliber HE that did no damage but still set fires, there would be at least some missing health the heal could not give back.
You don't generally use a heal if you haven't taken enough damage to get the full benefit so there should always be some damage remaining, also you can still see the damage on the ship even if the health was fully healed back.
Conqueror Heal = Mobile Shipyard
USS Artisan, I choose you!
@@hvymtal8566 uss vestal i choose you
Or a 3D Printer
Ah, the Conqueror, the Type 5 Heavy of the seas.
and also a window licker? ;-P
TheFreaker86 glue sniffer*
never had a problem with the type 5.. in tier 8s, not run into the Conqueror yet though
naa the type 5 heavy is way worse.
Beat me to it, you sneaky aardvark
Jingles: when was the last time you saw a British battleship firing ap?
Me: 30 secs ago
Lol
HE Mongqueror is annoying. AP Conqueror is scary. I've had the misfortune of having one of these boys pop up on my broadside in my Zao at 12kms after I engaged an Atago that sailed into my detection radius. 30k hp less later after the opening salvo plus the following torrent of profanity and I was not very happy.
After a broken gun turret is repaired, you still have to wait for a shell to load.
I find myself triggered by the lack of premium consumables.
Not the only one.
That 3 minutes cooldown on the heal is just not okay...
What kind of monster does that? I don't even have premium account and I never leave port without those at TX.
Shaw Fujikawa yeah sorry about that. I had recently bought the yugumo and coundnt afford anything.
As far as I know you don't see if he has premium consumables in replays At least this was te case when I watched one of mine the last time.
Jingles. You CAN filter it. Just check the end - card at the end of the match. It will show you how much damage came from HE, how much came from fires, how much came from AP, and how much came from flooding.
Please Jingles never mention premium amo again ! At least not in a world of warships context.
"Can't tell if the Conqueror replay contains full HE spam"
Why not just check the end-game stat sheets to see what ammunition was fired?
Oh Jingles, you so silly.
Jingles! Play more Cold Waters!
TheFalconRaptor PLEASE!
Or do not!
TheFalconRaptor new content is needed, it got boring quick for me.
I think Jingles did all he could with Cold Waters.
They have fixed the Chinese campain now, maybe he could play through that, and or check out some new mods.
To play the devil's advocate for Conqueror players: "If I'm stupid but it works..."
When it consistently loses matches, it clearly doesn't work.
@ArmchairWarrior you mister, have called other people "sheep"!
That is not a very Canadian thing to do. Now apologize like a proper Canadian.
If it's stupid, but it works, you're still stupid, you got lucky.
ArmchairWarrior I disagree. People haven't figured it out with the Conqueror because the Conqueror works so much better than any other BB when you are playing stupidly. Sure it can be better when you are firing AP, but when you are doing consistent 10K salvos with HE as well as fire damage, people are going to use it as an HE spammer. Most people are focused on damage dealt and don't even realise that sitting at the back spamming HE will probably not really help the team. If that is ever going to change, it is because the HE gets nerfed - but unfortunately WG has expressed that they see nothing wrong with the Conq.
So, what you're saying is that the Conqueror is like the Nissan GTR of World of Warships as in it will make the most hamfisted of idiots look like a hero?
Always thought the way most people play conqueror was wrong, sure the HE is great but battleships should close to medium range to throw their weight around, closer if German, but i can't blame people wanting to use the range and good HE to best effect, even if it is boring. Nice to see someone playing conqueror properly
*load the salt and pepper*
2 minutes since the video went out and three people all claiming to be first ah that's RUclips for you, still a great chance to see the Conqueror played so well, she's not a bad ship she's just depressingly good at helping bad players be awful thankfully none of that in this video
Lovelacebeer are you implying im a bad player because of this match? Im the one who was playing it.
Joel Montgomery quite the opposite I'm saying you played brilliantly and that it's just a pity that the Conqueror has got such a bad reputation because in the hands of a good player such as yourself the ships really shines
Lovelacebeer well i have my good moments but im no magician. That moska was very generous though.
Joel Montgomery well it's always nice when you get obliging opponents who sail broadside and in straight lines, still great game and well played
Wows is a bit weird, ussr tier x destroyer is a light cruiser, ussr tier x cruiser is a battleship and the British tier x battleship is basically a very big cruiser...
Nobody expects the Conqueror armor-piercing!!
Excellent video! I love my Conqueror and switching ammo types is one of the great surprises I have for my opponents - One thing though - HE "Spamming" has now been taken over by the HE volcanoes known as cruisers in this game!
Colonel David Davenport especially the new american CLs
10:25 little did jingles know that much like a conquerors skill in predicting the future, jingles would also come up short.
@Jingles Erm Jingles the Conqueror does not have 16 inch cannons they are 419 mm cannons so they are 16.5 inch cannons.....Jingles? *shotgun loading*
OMG Amadeo thank you for clearing that up, now we can all sleep better knowing the Conqueror has .5 bigger inch gun than 16 inches. I guess that means you can't call them 16 inchers huh?
Sorry, Google said it was 16.49 inches. I am not a native to the imperial system.
Amadeo, you and Google are correct. 16.49 inches. Sorry Billy
You would still just round down and call them 16 inch. When you get that high up in size it's not that useful to differentiate such small differences for talking about size among other big guns.
that's what she said
that Alsace was driven by a cousin of Steve The IS-7 Driver
Well, the statement in the beginning that this isn't the "regular" Conq replay was 50% accurate. Hats down for a captain occasionally pressing the 2 button, though this is only natural if you've unlocked tier 10 ships. But on the other hand, sailing parallel to the battle zone on the B line is exactly what we all expect from T10 battleship captains
Greetings from the salt mines!
As per usual your commentary make the replay so much more enjoyable.
Captain here: c4900rr isnt meant to be one unit. I believe it is meant to be c4 900rr - as in the Honda CBR900RR I would assume. C4 might be the generation of bike, or it might have something to do with his personal information. Other than that - the CBR900RR Fireblade motorcycle has a third party exhaust available named C4, could also be that.
*flies away
Alsace did fire one of his bow turrets with HE. 2nd one was knocked out mid-reload, so after it repaired itself it had to go through another full reload cycle, which is why he didn't fire that
I love loading AP when I play conq, especially after shooting HE at a cruiser. Because they almost always turn broadside and think they are safe.
You’re right, Jingles. The Conqueror is a love/hate ship. You love it if you’re driving it. You hate it if you’re not.
People don't expect Conquerors to be firing AP most of the time, and a lot of the time, they underestimate Conqueror's AP.
Which is nice, because AP's literally the only ammunition I fire while playing Conqueror lol
Jim_Kirk1 you sir are a hero
I have been wondering recently (particularly after watching one of Flamu's Haragumo replays) why WoWs doesn't restrict the amount of ammo like WoT. When you see how many shells or torps some of the ships are able to fire in a game it does seem ridiculous at times. Does anyone know why?
To be fair Jingles, the people we see sailing at the back of the map in Conqueror's are the same people that sail at the back of the map in pretty much everything. Just the other day I saw a platoon of Grosser Kurfurst's doing just that, I mean they couldn't of even been in range of anything for Christ sake.
I love too citadel broadside Ships with conquerer AP :) No one expect it to happen.
The biggest problem I have with the Conqueror( other than the it being so brokenly OP in the right hands) is that other battleships try to emulate it's play style. Now that is hilarious when enemy top tier Battleships shoot HE at your broadside if you make a bad play, but then a Yamato on your team sits on the map border spamming HE at broadside enemies. Face meet palm.
adriaan van wyk I met a Musashi on my team other day who did exactly this. He pressed the “s” key then didn’t touch his keyboard again for the entire game. It hurts. It really, really hurts.
"I wish the ammo in WoWs worked like it does in WoT" you heard it here first, Jingles wants us to lose credits on our tier 10 games!
I am amazed how few British BB players fire AP at most levels, yes HE is effective but using both ammo types is more so :) However I suppose it does mean that a lot of people give you broadsides and then are shocked when you give them a paddling with AP :)
Conqueror=marmite?
Jingles video with a cuppa on break from work. Awesome
"sniper shoots and deals a bit of damage" - 12k Salvo... to a bow-tanking BB... of course with HE.... yeaaaaah, no Problem there
feel like crap, get home from work, and theres jingles to brighten my day. :-)
Flamu: "Having Jingles on your deck shouting British insults at the planes will likely be more effective as a plane detterrent than turning on your AA" about the Cossack :D
3:18 maybe You could look at the after Battle Report to see which, and how many of each ammo-types were used??? (If of course You have the after battle Report)
Maybe you should have waited until the end of the video - 16:06
JetsetUK - He means the Battle Report of _future_ replays, so Jingles can know which replays are and aren't mindless Conquerer HE-Spam Replays.
JetsetUK just saying that When people submit this kind of replays They should send A picture of the detailed report screen so it would be easier for jingles to decide if it was worth his time. (Sorry for bad English) :)
To be fair, I think that's what our Mighty Saltmine Overlord actually does, or else he wouldn't have put this one up... the fact you tagged a part of the video where he was talking about the unusual use of swapping to AP kinda took me away from the meaning you were trying to say... don't apologise for your bad English though, I am certain my grasp of your language is worse... ;o)
Well… im not the typical Conqueror player in the sense that i use what the heal is Worth, so usually i try to get in take some damage before i turn out. It's a rinse and repeat process that either get me killed or i get "dreadnaught", "fireproof", or an occasional "unsinkable".
I made it work during the ranked season, staying at range trying to use the DCs the rest of the team inflicted on the enemies. So at a crucial moment i push in and switch to AP since most of them expect HE, so dont know how many DS i got on oblivious cruiser and BB players during those games.
Max damage under ranked was 230K where half was AP.
Nice video Jungles. Been playing World of Warships Blitz and you vids are lots of help.
Woot, first break in the salt mines to watch a conqueror paddle some hind quarters. Back to slaving away for the overlord we go!!! :)
Having seen this absolute disgrace of conquerer showmanship, I can safely say that I would proudly sail alongside Sniper any day.
My first T10 ship was the Kurfurst and my second was the Yamato, so I tend to enjoy using the AP on my conq more than HE
Good replay... I think British BB's are next on my list. Well Done Jingles!
Another Tier X replay...how original... * sigh *
Sorry, too much time mining salt. I got some in my...well nevermind.
Jingles don't give War gaming ideas of changing ammo to gold. great replay. well done sniper. keep up the good work both of you.
You forgot to mention the Conqueror citadel buried down in the Marianas Trench, which even the Yamato has trouble finding when presented with a broadside.
Tbh that's how I would intend to drive the Conqueror when I get her. I alr am using Armour piercing a lot on Nelson and Duke of York and the many devastating strikes on cruisers can attest to the fact that British AP is good at creaming cruisers.
Finally! Someone who knows how to do the Conquerer justice! :) Great video as always oh great Gnome Overlord Jingles and awesome job, Sniper! ;)
William Smith thanks for the compliment. I intend to try and do better at some point.
To be fair, despite firing 50% more AP than HE, his HE damage PLUS fires was almost spit on with his AP damage. That said, it was good seeing someone who mixed it up a little bit. Fighting Conquerors is so demoralising sometimes.
The mighty Overlord dropped a monty pyrhon reference! So much winning!
Conq is my first and only TX BB. Still getting the hang of her but she's hilarious. Survival build + AR and reload module. Go Ahead, set me on fire, cause you really want a Conq shooting at you every 20 sec from 10km.
*Bursts through a door* NO ONE EXPECTS THE CONQUEROR'S ARMOR PIERCING!
I would like to think I will be this kind of Conquerer player when I eventually work my way up to it. I will probably still hang around in the back, but there would at least be some variety in the shells being used.
Ever since the announcement of how the British BB AP works in-game, I've always been amused by the historical irony of it. The short fuse we get in game leads to a similar situation to what happened at Jutland with the British AP (no, not the magazine detonations, that was due to sloppy powder handling). The British AP at Jutland had an overly sensitive explosive filler and was detonating on impact like HE from the shock rather than detonating after impact from the fuse setting it off. This is part of why the battlecruiser engagement seems so one-sided, but it isn't the whole story. After figuring out that their AP was garbage, the RN spent quite a lot of time, effort, and money on making improved AP shells, which is sadly undermined on all British BBs in game by the fuse timers, except for HMS Warspite, because she predates the gimmickery.
Celebration is at hand!
Jingle Bells!Jingle Bells!Jingle all the way!
Your ship got shot and now it has sunk.
Now let's all celebrate it, eh?
British battleships can be used very effectively given that you can almost sink them but then the repair party will rebuild an entire new ship
that's one of the good things about WoT blitz rounds like heat, apcr, and premium ap do 20% less damage than their non-gold counterpart
Oh crap, they're evolving!
Sees new Jingles video, clicks like before the intro is over.
A Conqueror? Firing armor piercing? In a cap circle?!?! HERESY!!!
Nobody expected the Conqueror APquision.
Conqueror is the original “Bad boy”
Actually Jingles, the Conqueror's AP is less effective than the Montana's AP as the dynamics the Tier 8 to Tier 10 American 16" AP is very close to that of the Yamato's 18.1" AP. The North Carolina, The Iowa Sisters and the Montana all fire the Super Heavy 16" Shell that weighs 2,750lbs in game, and with the muzzle velocity and plunging fire velocities give it similar penetration, give or take 50mm, as the 18.1 AP rounds at all distances.
So the Conqueror is basically the Marmite of WOWS?
The British ships seems really fun to play, if only the tech tree would grind itself for me.
Actually Jingles ... EVERYBODY expected the Spanish Inquisition, because they gave a months notice!
… And arrive several days too late, by bus, to give evidence at the wrong trial.
Hey 600k congrats jingles
Lord Jingles, If this lowly subject can inform your great self, Spanish Inquisition gave you actually 30 day notice. Everyone expected the inquisition.
I know, Monty Python skit and all that.
The Moskva was hilarious. Can’t even blame the guy, I would give him the benefit of the doubt that he is not a potato
This guy is so alpha he doesn't even use the upgraded consumables
The Conqkek returns for another paddling session!
NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! among our chief weapons are ...
CONGRATS ON 600K JINGLES
I'd play with that Conqueror player any time. Well played.
Tim Butcher thanks.
A possible solution for your problem at 2:30 Jingles,
what if you ask that people submitting WoWS replays attach the detailed results screen, because that shows the amount of each type of ammunition fired?
I was playing my tier 7 British bb KGV spamming HE at an enemy bb this 1 time when I spotted a Cleveland coming around the island. He did not expect the AP broadside I delivered to him once he cleared the island. 1 shot him with all citadels. Was the last mistake he ever made.
So........ at least in a bb vs bb battle - other bbs - angle and minimize damage, both of you can do it.
non conqueror vs conqueror - broadside = ap paddling, angle, burn to death. Conqueror angle, minimal damage, conqueror broadside, print new ship.
oh and cruiser level concealment.
yeah this ship is tooootally balanced. 100%. absolutely
“It’s the Yamato. It’s always going to be special.”
That didn’t age well.
Yay, I sail broadside to battleship no matter the nation because I want to use al my guns
Jingles, you don't seem to have a problem with KV-2's loading nothing but high explosive.
If it works for the KV-2, it also works for the Conqueror.
Salute to Sniper for playing the Conqueror intellegently.
No jingles, the c4900 part of his name DOES actually refer to the window wiper kits. Its for if he meets any window lickers, then after the game he can recommend a set of window wipers to them ;).
TACOCHEEZE _ StayMad actually im not sure what the first part means. I got the first part from my fathers old gmail address and stuck sniper on the end when i started playing world of tanks blitz. Then i eventually started playing world of warships.
I know its not a Conqueror but I was chilling in ma Hood and I hit a cruiser and scored 2 citadel and did 20,000 damage to it leaving it on like 250 HP
And some little bugger stole my kill and started gloating about it in chat............ really pissed me off XD
50% shorter fire duration for consecutive fires from the same ship, would be a really nice captain trait.
Press "T" to print a new ship...
You made me play Conqueror Jingles. It resulted in 319k damage, and 7 achievements..
I love the way players of WOWS and WOT blame the players of a certain ship/tank rather then the company that introduced it into the game. You don't cure a disease by treating it's symptoms, you follow the symptoms to find the root cause and that would be Wargaming
Nah... in this case it's the player... after all, THEY decide to loiter at the borders of the map and just spam HE because they don't know how to play better either as an individual or as a team... Wargaming just gave them the vehicle to prove how numbtardish they can actually be...
The last british Battleship i was facing was a KGV in my Admiral Graf Spee. I don't know why but he tried to run away from me.
Conquerors are the glue sniffers of World of Warships
UGH! I wish the majority of BB skippers would play like this! Too many on the NA server love to stay at the back of the map or hide behind islands for most of the battle. Really makes being a cruiser skipper a difficult challenge.