Renault’s group sales outside of Europe in 2012 set a record, climbing 9.1% to 1,279,598 units, thanks to the launch of new products and the company’s aggressive efforts to expand its strategic markets, particularly Brazil, Russia and India.
Thanks for the review, I just purchased mine 2015 and noticed the knob for adjusting mirrors is the same as mine. But how do you fold them in after parking? It seems there are not electric
The Renault-Nissan Alliance is a strategic partnership between the French Renault (based in Paris) and the Japanese Nissan (Yokohama). Alliance sells 10% of cars sold in the world. Strategic partners since 1999, Renault and Nissan sold in 2012 to 8.1 million vehicles in more than 200 countries. In addition to its partnership with AVTOVAZ, the Alliance has strategic partnership agreements with various manufacturers such as Daimler German, Chinese Dong Feng or Ashok Leyland.
i think , i have no more to add . you are right for one thing , we must force renault to be at the top everywhere and not apologise an error , especialy for the security and for the customers : the reliability . i m not the boss of renault otherwise your comments ( and in UK ) would be so much interesting for me ! what a job to improve our (of renault ) reputation in UK my god ....
i m surprised , do you know why ? because i own a renault 19 ( RN 1.8 liter ) ( of 1993 ) and ... oh surprise ? (for you ) , my car has no problem for the control technic . i have bought it in 2005 for 2000 euros . it starts at the first time each days ! it s very reliable , i promise . i maintain it normally and it s cheap compared to a new car . it s why i don t understand all these comments about the reliability of renault .
even the low cost mark of renault "dacia " is reliable because they use the pieces already made reliable since years ! dacia is a success in europe , russia south america , soon in china and india .
the big car trademarks can survive only in a partnership now , alone they are finished . mercedes has bought the renault kangoo ( it s the mercedes citan ) they have analysed it completly and changed some process , pieces . the reliability is certainly at the top now . you can buy ... ;)
continuation : They also make extensive use of proven and honed technology from within the Renault-Nissan Alliance to ensure cars are built to stand the test of time, with impressive results: Dacia finished second, just behind Audi and ahead of BMW, in Germany’s 2010 J.D. Power Customer Satisfaction survey.
me i just see the stats , in 2012 , the test is made with 540 cars , the % show that renault is good for the recent cars (all the serie 3 ) and the others series ( 2 ) is not bad either . i understand that the historic reliability of renault is not perfect ( and others trademark neither , rover , chrysler fiat lada etc ... but when the progress is noticeable we must recognize it . (we have started a heated thread here !) it s fun
nissan has the capacity to improve , to find again the same reliability than in the past , it s their priority number one since some years . knowing the japanese they will recover it quickly .
Assuming your recolation of "reliable" regarding your Renault has actually been reliable, then consider yourself fortunate. Many Renault owners have a different tale. Even many Nissan owners accustomed to classic japanese reiability that pre-Renault Nissans offered have been sorely dissapointed edmunds .com ./nissan/maxima /2004/consumer-reviews. html?sub=sedan Thank you for finally seeing my point. I hope you continue to have good service out of your car. U deserve it budddy!
during the control they watch a lot of points , pieces of the cars , if the more important points have a problem ( security problems ) the car fails to the control . the car must be repared and to do a new control . taux de contre visite means : rate of failure (the fails to the control ) when i write " number of vehicule FAILING " i mean number of vehicules who fails to the technic control and forced to be repared .
These arent "my" stats. They're universal and the majority of them are in agreement: Renault has an extremely poor showing for reliability, despite renaults claims to the contrary. My goal is to change that. It became personal for me when they started affecting Nissan and it is my goal to hit both of these companies where they hurt until their reliability is THE BEST in the industry. So i will continue to highlight the FACTS about renault's horrible reliability until the facts say otherwise.
that 's true honda and toyota are good . peugeot and citroen makes their C1 and 107 with toyota aygo , the result is not bad . it s only a tiny car . they can copy their methods for the middle range and premium range
i m not sure that public don t buy renault ,see the stats for the world ! Despite growth in emerging economies, Renault’s total group sales decreased 6.3% to 2,550,286 units due to the prolonged sales slump in Europe. Excluding Russia, Renault group’s European sales declined 18% to 1,270,688 units as the overall auto market in the European Union tumbled to its lowest level in almost 17 years. 2.5 millions renault sold in the world for 2012 is it nothing ?
The oxymoron is obvious to anyone who reads that link. "Dacia is reliabke because of Renault" - is what thatthat paragraph you posted is essentially saying. So its not only relying on Hard data from older cars that have Proven unreliable, its making a bold prediction based on hopes and some customer satisfaction survey. For all we know the average age of the car being surveyed coukd have been 6 months old. Nowhere near long enough to asses true longterm reliability.
the diesel engine of the mercedes class A = the diesel engine of renault ... mercedes is using the diesel of renault now ! so do you think that renault is not reliable if mercedes uses our engine ?
you don t know really the alliance nissan -renault in 1999 nissan sold 2400000 cars and in 2012 5 millions ( X2 ) . in fact renault doesn 't own completly nissan (45 % ) and nissan owns 10 % of renault . the partnership is in the both sens . if nissan has had a lack of reliability during some years , this problem is well known by them and they have already done the correction ...
What do you mean by " a little bite perfid...". Im sorry but i dont know what this means. Your english is fine to me. I understand it quite well. No worries my friend.
Perhaps. But potential buyers arent willing to gamle thousand of dollars of their hard earned money on nissans improvement. Nissan will have to prove their improvment in reliability before owners believe it. And thats going to be pretty tough, as it should be, with Renaukts bad reputation hanging over Nissan. Buyers woukd do better shopping from a CONSISTENTLY reliable brand that has proven its reliability status time and again like Honda or Toyota.
not true search the results of ADAC (german ) . all the series 3 of renault have a good reliability . ( clio 3 (now 4 ) megane 3 laguna 3 are really reliable . how is it possible to hide the results of a german company who control millions cars each years in germany and in europe ?
No my friend, CLIO is better, initially and barely. But as a whole, Toyota far outshines renault in reliability. I realize that you're looking for anything to cling to but as stat after stat shows, Renaults horrible reliability history is well documented.
for exemple for the renault clio III (3) they put all of them (built in 2005 -12 ) in the same line . for exemple line : 73 , renault clio III (3) , rate of failure during the control 8.38 % , number of vehicules controled 262335 , number of vehicule failing 21989 262335 / 21989 = 8.38% for exemple line 96 toyota yaris 9.31% , 120062 / 11179 just see that the toyota yaris is worse than the renault clio (3 )
"the bad rank for Renault.....". These are your words. Finally i have successfully made my point with you adding your own admission. Thank you. Like ive been saying, Renault has a horrible record, and wise buyers will do best to avoid them and anybrand they influence.
Once again you have a Customer satisfaction survey from JD power which fails to incorporate long term reliability. Audi and BMW's long term reliability record is not good either. While Audi showed signs of improvement in the Consumer Reports mag, their long-term reliability is still wanting. The platitudes of "nissan alliance's proven technology" means nithing when the reality is that Nissans reliability has also suffered at the hands of Renault. Dacia, like Renault rate poor longterm.
As yiur own post shows, despite the emerging markets ( unsuspecting markets where people have a low familiarity with Renaults horrible reliability) sales were still down 6.3%. That slump showing itself in markets where Renaults stinch still smells. That same stinch has found its way to Nissan as well. Many once loyal Nissan owners after having Enault influenced reliability issues un common to pre-Renault Nissans are vowing never to own a Nissan again. Renault was laughed out of the US before.
I now see the link. Without knowing how far back the reliability report spans per model, i cant tell if im looking at long-term reliability. Nevertheless, this site supports what ive been saying all along, If the lower the % means better reliability, then Renault is very unreliable. With an exception of a few models, the vast majority are downright atrocious. Thanks for sharing.
Im amsumming this comment of yours is in regards to the link that dosent work. Because otherwise i dont understand what you are trying to tell me. Thanks.
Renaults crash worthiness isnt being discussed here. Their horrible reliability is and your apologetics regarding that. The majority of stats, the majority of owners on Renault forums, renaukt and even you have spoken the same message in that Renaults reliability ranks extremely low. Buyers would do well to avoid them and to spend their hard earned money on brands that are far more reliable. Even Renaults claim of imorovement fails long-term tests per the links i posted. Renault best avoided
With the vast majority of their rproducts ranking at the bottom, and their brand as a whole consistently STILL rating at the bottom, with the 2007 Laguna showing such a poor showing after 3 years in the link i posted, Renault is finding its horrible reliability record is still very real. When renault says their goal is to make cars that last 300,000 km (190,000mi) in the years to come, thats really sad considering other brands have been doing that and more for years. Renault is best avoided.
and something new has happened , mercedes and renault beginns a partnership too , mercedes owns a part of renault now . they will build togethers engines and chassis . the mercedes new class A has already a renault engine diesel . renault will build their premium cars with a chassis mercedes soon and engine nissan , it s a complete mix renault -nissan - mercedes !
Renault's shares the BOTTOM spot of reliability with the brands you mentioned. Thsat does nothing in excusing Renaults. Nor does their distance from "perfect" warrant mercy. You may act as an apologist and as such your dissmisive issues that plagues renault's reliability shows no regard to the vast majority of owners whose issues translated to breakdowns, wasted money, frustration, near death acccidents. The models like Laguna 3 have failed the 4-5 year test significatly per my link.
the laguna III has been created in 2007 ( 6 years ago ) and 3.98% it s normal (line 15 , same web site caradisiac see the link on another comment ) .compare with the TOYOTA AURIS phase 1 (2007 -13 ) --) line 21 , rate of counter visit 5.21% , number of car controled 14128 , number of cars failed (who have failed to the control ) 736 conclusion toyota auris = 5.21% renault laguna 3.98% renault is better for the same period (2007 -13 )
i m not english , and i speak only a basic english . i should write exactly " YOU SEE only A bad rank for renault but not for the others " i know that the english ( i don t know if you are englishman , i suppose it ) you are a little bite perfid ... ;)
ha for the crash test i m not worried for renault , the actuals renault have 5 stars . (may be 4 stars for the kangoo ? it depends of the year ) . you are safe in a renault . perfid means : to deceive . but it s certainly a legend ;) well , we arrive at the end of this match i think , in fact i m objectiv , i just look the stats of a web site , i look and compare the results ! after if we have not the same stats , % , that 's the problem ...
renault - nissan 8.1 millions cars sold in 2012 . AND I FORGET renault has a partnership with MERCEDES since 2011 . the mercedes citan = kangoo and they prepare a common base to build their chassis 's car . the mercedes citan uses the renault's engine too . and the new class A mercedes uses the diesel engine too something else to say ?
it 's still better than a : CHEVROLET TRANS SPORT 48,24 % rate of failure !! 284 number of cars controled 137 numbers of cars failure the actual CHEVROLET might as still be ranked 579 TH (without rancune ) Oo Oo Oo Oo Oo Oo
continuation : As for reliability, Dacia claims that for nearly 40 per cent of buyers this will be their first new car, and the reliability will be a revelation for them. Dacias were originally designed to cope with the harsh conditions of Eastern Europe, so should be able to take UK roads in their stride. Read more: w w w. autoexpress.co.uk/dacia/sandero#ixzz2aEp7zwhS
I will also add the your apologist stance is equivilent to auto makers that found numerous reasons to exuse the poor crash results of their cars when tested by the iihs offset crash. Manufactures whined " the test is too extreme", "it dosent represent real-world crashes", "it would cost too muchto implement (needed safety measures)", "it passes the majority of other tests" Al the while people died until the market and the competition FORCED improvement. U pacifying Renault helps the consumer not
Given renaukts proven horrible track record and mercedes still shaky reliability, that A class is not destined to age well in the long run. Like i said renault and any manfaucture for which they have any partnership with should be by past in lieu of brands that have CONSISTENTLY stood the test of time in the reliability department. Honda and Toyota lead the pack.
LOOK AT THIS REPORT OF AUTO EXPRESS UK about DACIA reliability .autoexpress.co.uk/dacia/sandero One of the big advantages of being a Renault subsidiary is that Dacia has access to its pool of proven technology - including engines, electronics and safety systems. All Sanderos come as standard with ABS, traction control, stability control, ISOFIX points in the rear and four airbags. Dacia is realistic about the Sandero’s Euro NCAP test results, though, and it recorded a four-star score.
This car is ideal, if you just want a basic cheap SUV of auto trader used and second hand for run about and scores cheapest SUV for it age since 2013 to 2019 on record sales of second hand used cars. For the price, l would save up and buy a Hyundai Tucson SUV as it lot spacious, reliable on 2WD standard that feel like a 4WD and practical good on any road. With this car, it is good for short journeys and shopping but not good for large families and long commuting. If you see a range like this, think of it like a cheap flick movie romcom and that you are a French female cruising down local street waving to you girls in this car. For tall men my size and weight then consider this not to be durable as it small, snabby also give you mates wrong impression of you personality. Meanwhile this ride is really good for any female drivers that enjoy shopping, also putting baby in the back seat chair but other than that then l won't bother for myself because had one and didn't last long after 12,876 miles in one year it needed two full services and costs weren't cheap also spent more time being in garage partially rest of one month in a year due to issues with electrics, steering out of place and radiator pipe repairs aren't cheapest when SUV get flushed just over genuine pipes overheated and corroded due to my long journeys with a correct full top up of engine coolant. If anything, these brand cars belong to young female or male students just wanting a short and cheap ride to get around city or town driving. Only plus side is, the boot space is reasonable good and handles great around bends but that about it as of because fuel costs this car barely reach 320 miles on full tank as after every one day and half l am back down fuel station which is expensive after one month. I tried them all, my last four cars were Renault Capture 2013, 2014, 2015, 2019 and yet still have same issues as previously stated above, yep more radiator pipe bursting or corroding also needed two services from all long journeys in my diesel 1.5 Captures l been doing regardless which is just insane. Even mechanic dealers said mate, you want something bigger and that is more practicable for you long commuting because it just will cost you more profit. It took me awhile till l slept on it and finally gave in then agreed with mechanic, so incase you wondering fellas then stick with a stronger and a lot bigger car SUV for price range as serious men of buisness also working class need a ride that feel practically safe for our dignity also give a good drive for cost with no issues maintaining, servicing or refuelling. My new car now is a Hyundai Tucson 1.6 2016 model and for it old age hasn't run me down or failed after 10,465 miles counting which only need one year full service and get you as far as 428 miles on full tank of diesel or petrol. After four years of part exchange and buying new Capture each year to finally learning more about Capture hidden issues, then all l say is bloody brilliant thinking from top Renault!
Not only did Renaults reliability remain dismal after Nissan, they lowered Nissans reliability too. See consumer reviews of the 2004 nissan maxima at edmunds dot com. (remove spaces)
Plenty more to say. And you can add to my voice the majority on the Renault uk form that voted to not buy one again; WhatCar which consistently rates Renault on the bottom; Consumer Reports whichhas ALWAYS ranked Renault as poor; and the overall negative results that come up when "renault reliability" is googled; and even Renault itself: w w w. slideshare. net/noamro25/the-new-renault-excellence-in-reliability-5465292 So yes PLENTY MORE TO SAY!
Speaking of formula one, Renaults shoddy reliability leaves its smear their as well. Search "Renault in formula one wiki". Once their, search fir the word "reliability" and look at the continues reliability issues that brand the Renault image. As i have continued to say, Renault has a long history of unreliablity both on and off the track. Their cars and any other brand they influence ( dacia, nissan, mercedes, samsung motors, etc) are best AVOIDED.
Show me. I'd LOVE to see who Renault paid to gloss over their truly horrible reliability record that they have consistently accumulated over the years. Renaults cars CONTINUE to be laden with problems, breakdowns, and expense. Renaults philosophy of cheapening at the expens of reliability is their management trumps engineering attitude at its finest. Their cars are pure trash.
A reliability HISTORY is the onky way to measure a manufacturer's true commitment to reliability. If a company consistently produces cars that lasts 20+ years with few problems, it means a lot more than a comanpy whose reliability falls off a lot early despite the strong initial showing. Case in point Renault laguna 3 on your link has a (years unknown) of 3.98%. Yet this link shows it ages horribly after 3 years w w w. anusedcar. com /index.php/tuv-model/renault-laguna Renaults HISTORY poor
well , thinks what you want , just recognise that the serie 3 of renault is reliable , the stats shows it . i can show you this image report of auto plus ( the brother of autoexpress ,bild etc ..) / images hack . us /photo/my-images/59/numrisation0008b. j p g/
2009 - 29th out of 30 2010 - 30th out of 32 2011 - 33rd out of 35. Which? (like Choice Mag) also puts them at the bottom. Consumer Reports rated these American Renault in fluenced models all POOR: Renault Alliance, Dodge Monaco, Eagle Premier, Eagle Medallion. renaultforums. co. uk /showthread. php?p=942440 ( remove spaces)- owners would not purchase another romania-insider. com /dacia-logan-fails-german-reliability-test/43153/ (remove spaces) Dacia and Espace = WORST
and for the reliability of dacia LOOK THIS ( AN ENGLISH WEB SITE HONEST JOHN ) w w w.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/dacia/sandero-2013/ i put the speech if you can t see it : "When it comes to reliability, Dacia really excels. Every model is extensively tested, primarily so that they can cope with the tough terrain and weather extremes in far-flung destinations, from Colombia to Iran or soon, even the Scottish Highlands. "
Continued You dont judt look st the stats. Your pst shiw that you look and ignore the stats. You also ignore the oeople on Renault Forum uk, you also ignore the consistent low ranking Renault as a whole has garnished year after year. You do Renault owners no favors doing this. Renault has no incentive to improve with folks like you cheering on and ignoring their poor quality. Thry will keep producing trash if especially if you keep asking for it. Up your standards and your expectations.
W w w. anusedcar. com/index.php/tuv-report-year-age/2013-4-5/307 2007 Renault supposedly started its "emphasis" on reliability. Yet in 4 short years, the last three vehicles for the most problems are all Renaults. So yes when Renault screams "look st us we've improved" its smoke and mirrors. It will take TIME to see hiw Renaults AGE before their reliability record even has a chance for improvment, not what they "claim" they've improved on. Talk and shallow "stats" are cheap.
://services.autoplus.fr/controle-technique-2012.html this is the results of our control technic mark by mark .it works if you put the link into google search engine , after you have a result and you click on it . as i say in another comment , have fun with your car , everybody is free to like or dislike a trademark , i understand if your stats show that renault is in the bottom all the time !
LINE 15 of the web site caradisiac RENAULT LAGUNA III 4,54 % 31245 numbers of cars controled 1419 numbers of cars with failures for the period 2007 - 12 ( 5 years ) and toyota auris it s ( line 21 ) 5.21 % number of car with failures for the period 2007 -12 renault is better
I bought one, a 2015 Dynamique Nav version a few weeks ago and I love it, loads of car for my money, and lovely to drive too.
Would you recommend the automatic?
Eric George what are your thoughts on the just announced 2019
Renault’s group sales outside of Europe in 2012 set a record, climbing 9.1% to 1,279,598 units, thanks to the launch of new products and the company’s aggressive efforts to expand its strategic markets, particularly Brazil, Russia and India.
Thanks for the review, I just purchased mine 2015 and noticed the knob for adjusting mirrors is the same as mine. But how do you fold them in after parking? It seems there are not electric
You will have an image of a folding mirror on the adjusting knob, just push the knob towards that image and they fold!
renault has made a lot of progress for the reliability since 2007 .
The Renault-Nissan Alliance is a strategic partnership between the French Renault (based in Paris) and the Japanese Nissan (Yokohama). Alliance sells 10% of cars sold in the world. Strategic partners since 1999, Renault and Nissan sold in 2012 to 8.1 million vehicles in more than 200 countries. In addition to its partnership with AVTOVAZ, the Alliance has strategic partnership agreements with various manufacturers such as Daimler German, Chinese Dong Feng or Ashok Leyland.
i think , i have no more to add . you are right for one thing , we must force renault to be at the top everywhere and not apologise an error , especialy for the security and for the customers : the reliability .
i m not the boss of renault otherwise your comments ( and in UK ) would be so much interesting for me ! what a job to improve our (of renault ) reputation in UK my god ....
The renault laguna iii was launched in 2007.
i m surprised , do you know why ? because i own a renault 19 ( RN 1.8 liter ) ( of 1993 ) and ... oh surprise ? (for you ) , my car has no problem for the control technic . i have bought it in 2005 for 2000 euros . it starts at the first time each days ! it s very reliable , i promise . i maintain it normally and it s cheap compared to a new car . it s why i don t understand all these comments about the reliability of renault .
even the low cost mark of renault "dacia " is reliable because they use the pieces already made reliable since years !
dacia is a success in europe , russia south america , soon in china and india .
Also what do you mean by "our" engine? Do you work for Renault?
the big car trademarks can survive only in a partnership now , alone they are finished .
mercedes has bought the renault kangoo ( it s the mercedes citan ) they have analysed it completly and changed some process , pieces . the reliability is certainly at the top now . you can buy ... ;)
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They also make extensive use of proven and honed technology from within the Renault-Nissan Alliance to ensure cars are built to stand the test of time, with impressive results: Dacia finished second, just behind Audi and ahead of BMW, in Germany’s 2010 J.D. Power Customer Satisfaction survey.
Great looking car.
And what do they mean by "failing"? Thank you.
me i just see the stats , in 2012 , the test is made with 540 cars , the % show that renault is good for the recent cars (all the serie 3 ) and the others series ( 2 ) is not bad either .
i understand that the historic reliability of renault is not perfect ( and others trademark neither , rover , chrysler fiat lada etc ... but when the progress is noticeable we must recognize it . (we have started a heated thread here !) it s fun
nissan has the capacity to improve , to find again the same reliability than in the past , it s their priority number one since some years . knowing the japanese they will recover it quickly .
How much is the car? This car looks fantastic. I want a dark, more sombre version.
I bought a black one with an orange roof, it looks amazing! Fab car too!!
I paid £10,000 for a 2015 model, a bargain as it was over £20,000 new with the extras it has!
oh i forget the twingo really reliable .
the volvo serie 30 was built in 2006 -12
What they dont tell you is that you have to buy the black alloy wheels....they are seperate!! I bought this car and just waiting to have it built!!
Oh and i tried your link and it didnt work. Please fix cause id like to see it. Thank you.
renault uses the same technology than nissan , the engineers work together and they buy a lot of pieces together to the providers .
and don t think that the french cars are advantaged on this control technic , the results don 't show that they have a particular advantage .
Assuming your recolation of "reliable" regarding your Renault has actually been reliable, then consider yourself fortunate. Many Renault owners have a different tale. Even many Nissan owners accustomed to classic japanese reiability that pre-Renault Nissans offered have been sorely dissapointed
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Thank you for finally seeing my point. I hope you continue to have good service out of your car. U deserve it budddy!
This link returns nothing. Please fix.
during the control they watch a lot of points , pieces of the cars , if the more important points have a problem ( security problems ) the car fails to the control . the car must be repared and to do a new control .
taux de contre visite means : rate of failure (the fails to the control ) when i write " number of vehicule FAILING " i mean number of vehicules who fails to the technic control and forced to be repared .
These arent "my" stats. They're universal and the majority of them are in agreement: Renault has an extremely poor showing for reliability, despite renaults claims to the contrary. My goal is to change that. It became personal for me when they started affecting Nissan and it is my goal to hit both of these companies where they hurt until their reliability is THE BEST in the industry. So i will continue to highlight the FACTS about renault's horrible reliability until the facts say otherwise.
certainly the renault scénic 3 and the twingo actual .
that 's true honda and toyota are good . peugeot and citroen makes their C1 and 107 with toyota aygo , the result is not bad . it s only a tiny car . they can copy their methods for the middle range and premium range
i m not sure that public don t buy renault ,see the stats for the world !
Despite growth in emerging economies, Renault’s total group sales decreased 6.3% to 2,550,286 units due to the prolonged sales slump in Europe. Excluding Russia, Renault group’s European sales declined 18% to 1,270,688 units as the overall auto market in the European Union tumbled to its lowest level in almost 17 years.
2.5 millions renault sold in the world for 2012 is it nothing ?
The oxymoron is obvious to anyone who reads that link. "Dacia is reliabke because of Renault" - is what thatthat paragraph you posted is essentially saying. So its not only relying on Hard data from older cars that have Proven unreliable, its making a bold prediction based on hopes and some customer satisfaction survey. For all we know the average age of the car being surveyed coukd have been 6 months old. Nowhere near long enough to asses true longterm reliability.
the diesel engine of the mercedes class A = the diesel engine of renault ... mercedes is using the diesel of renault now !
so do you think that renault is not reliable if mercedes uses our engine ?
and the formula 1 ? is it smoke ? they have the best engine and world champion with red bull ...
you don t know really the alliance nissan -renault in 1999 nissan sold 2400000 cars and in 2012 5 millions ( X2 ) . in fact renault doesn 't own completly nissan (45 % ) and nissan owns 10 % of renault . the partnership is in the both sens .
if nissan has had a lack of reliability during some years , this problem is well known by them and they have already done the correction ...
What do you mean by " a little bite perfid...". Im sorry but i dont know what this means.
Your english is fine to me. I understand it quite well. No worries my friend.
Nice car!
Perhaps. But potential buyers arent willing to gamle thousand of dollars of their hard earned money on nissans improvement. Nissan will have to prove their improvment in reliability before owners believe it. And thats going to be pretty tough, as it should be, with Renaukts bad reputation hanging over Nissan. Buyers woukd do better shopping from a CONSISTENTLY reliable brand that has proven its reliability status time and again like Honda or Toyota.
What can it tow?
556 TH
ROVER
MAESTRO/MONTEGO
39,25 %
214 controled
84 failure
not true search the results of ADAC (german ) . all the series 3 of renault have a good reliability . ( clio 3 (now 4 ) megane 3 laguna 3 are really reliable .
how is it possible to hide the results of a german company who control millions cars each years in germany and in europe ?
543 TH
VOLKSWAGEN
PASSAT III
37,19 %
3907 car controled
1453 car failures
even volswagen has problems
No my friend, CLIO is better, initially and barely. But as a whole, Toyota far outshines renault in reliability. I realize that you're looking for anything to cling to but as stat after stat shows, Renaults horrible reliability history is well documented.
for exemple for the renault clio III (3) they put all of them (built in 2005 -12 ) in the same line .
for exemple line : 73 , renault clio III (3) , rate of failure during the control 8.38 % , number of vehicules controled 262335 , number of vehicule failing 21989
262335 / 21989 = 8.38%
for exemple line 96 toyota yaris 9.31% , 120062 / 11179
just see that the toyota yaris is worse than the renault clio (3 )
"the bad rank for Renault.....". These are your words. Finally i have successfully made my point with you adding your own admission. Thank you. Like ive been saying, Renault has a horrible record, and wise buyers will do best to avoid them and anybrand they influence.
Really? How so?
Once again you have a Customer satisfaction survey from JD power which fails to incorporate long term reliability. Audi and BMW's long term reliability record is not good either. While Audi showed signs of improvement in the Consumer Reports mag, their long-term reliability is still wanting.
The platitudes of "nissan alliance's proven technology" means nithing when the reality is that Nissans reliability has also suffered at the hands of Renault.
Dacia, like Renault rate poor longterm.
Chrysler's reliability is near or at the bottom TOO. JUST LIKE RENAULT!
As yiur own post shows, despite the emerging markets ( unsuspecting markets where people have a low familiarity with Renaults horrible reliability) sales were still down 6.3%. That slump showing itself in markets where Renaults stinch still smells. That same stinch has found its way to Nissan as well. Many once loyal Nissan owners after having Enault influenced reliability issues un common to pre-Renault Nissans are vowing never to own a Nissan again. Renault was laughed out of the US before.
I now see the link. Without knowing how far back the reliability report spans per model, i cant tell if im looking at long-term reliability. Nevertheless, this site supports what ive been saying all along, If the lower the % means better reliability, then Renault is very unreliable. With an exception of a few models, the vast majority are downright atrocious. Thanks for sharing.
This post of yours lost all credibility after the words "Dacia claims...."
Dashboard quality no better than dacia. Clio gets soft touch whilst captur gets hard, scratchy plastic. Why?
I have no idea but do you want to go through life touching your cars dashboard? Give me my Captur over a clio any day, so much more car per£
Im amsumming this comment of yours is in regards to the link that dosent work. Because otherwise i dont understand what you are trying to tell me. Thanks.
Renaults crash worthiness isnt being discussed here. Their horrible reliability is and your apologetics regarding that. The majority of stats, the majority of owners on Renault forums, renaukt and even you have spoken the same message in that Renaults reliability ranks extremely low. Buyers would do well to avoid them and to spend their hard earned money on brands that are far more reliable. Even Renaults claim of imorovement fails long-term tests per the links i posted. Renault best avoided
With the vast majority of their rproducts ranking at the bottom, and their brand as a whole consistently STILL rating at the bottom, with the 2007 Laguna showing such a poor showing after 3 years in the link i posted, Renault is finding its horrible reliability record is still very real. When renault says their goal is to make cars that last 300,000 km (190,000mi) in the years to come, thats really sad considering other brands have been doing that and more for years. Renault is best avoided.
and something new has happened , mercedes and renault beginns a partnership too , mercedes owns a part of renault now . they will build togethers engines and chassis . the mercedes new class A has already a renault engine diesel . renault will build their premium cars with a chassis mercedes soon and engine nissan , it s a complete mix renault -nissan - mercedes !
Renault's shares the BOTTOM spot of reliability with the brands you mentioned. Thsat does nothing in excusing Renaults. Nor does their distance from "perfect" warrant mercy. You may act as an apologist and as such your dissmisive issues that plagues renault's reliability shows no regard to the vast majority of owners whose issues translated to breakdowns, wasted money, frustration, near death acccidents. The models like Laguna 3 have failed the 4-5 year test significatly per my link.
the laguna III has been created in 2007 ( 6 years ago ) and 3.98% it s normal (line 15 , same web site caradisiac see the link on another comment )
.compare with the TOYOTA AURIS phase 1 (2007 -13 )
--) line 21 , rate of counter visit 5.21% , number of car controled 14128 , number of cars failed (who have failed to the control ) 736
conclusion toyota auris = 5.21% renault laguna 3.98% renault is better for the same period (2007 -13 )
Don t like any car that promises unreliability, breakdowns, and frustration. Too many other reliable choices available.
i m not english , and i speak only a basic english .
i should write exactly " YOU SEE only A bad rank for renault but not for the others "
i know that the english ( i don t know if you are englishman , i suppose it ) you are a little bite perfid ... ;)
I meant Laguna.
ha for the crash test i m not worried for renault , the actuals renault have 5 stars . (may be 4 stars for the kangoo ? it depends of the year ) . you are safe in a renault .
perfid means : to deceive . but it s certainly a legend ;)
well , we arrive at the end of this match i think , in fact i m objectiv , i just look the stats of a web site , i look and compare the results ! after if we have not the same stats , % , that 's the problem ...
lol you see only the bad rank for renault but not for the others , well it s your choice ...
renault - nissan 8.1 millions cars sold in 2012 . AND I FORGET renault has a partnership with MERCEDES since 2011 .
the mercedes citan = kangoo and they prepare a common base to build their chassis 's car . the mercedes citan uses the renault's engine too . and the new class A mercedes uses the diesel engine too
something else to say ?
it 's still better than a :
CHEVROLET
TRANS SPORT
48,24 % rate of failure !!
284 number of cars controled
137 numbers of cars failure
the actual CHEVROLET might as still be ranked 579 TH (without rancune )
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honda civic (phase 8 ) 2006- 20011 line 30 = 5.89 % of failures its a lot too for honda !
Nice car
whatcar.
com
/car-news/reliability-survey-2011/35th-29th/258307
Notice the phrase "Renault has failed to improve its reliability"
These poor results from Renault are from What Car
Do like the car
continuation :
As for reliability, Dacia claims that for nearly 40 per cent of buyers this will be their first new car, and the reliability will be a revelation for them. Dacias were originally designed to cope with the harsh conditions of Eastern Europe, so should be able to take UK roads in their stride.
Read more: w w w. autoexpress.co.uk/dacia/sandero#ixzz2aEp7zwhS
I will also add the your apologist stance is equivilent to auto makers that found numerous reasons to exuse the poor crash results of their cars when tested by the iihs offset crash. Manufactures whined " the test is too extreme", "it dosent represent real-world crashes", "it would cost too muchto implement (needed safety measures)", "it passes the majority of other tests" Al the while people died until the market and the competition FORCED improvement. U pacifying Renault helps the consumer not
Given renaukts proven horrible track record and mercedes still shaky reliability, that A class is not destined to age well in the long run. Like i said renault and any manfaucture for which they have any partnership with should be by past in lieu of brands that have CONSISTENTLY stood the test of time in the reliability department. Honda and Toyota lead the pack.
LOOK AT THIS REPORT OF AUTO EXPRESS UK about DACIA reliability
.autoexpress.co.uk/dacia/sandero
One of the big advantages of being a Renault subsidiary is that Dacia has access to its pool of proven technology - including engines, electronics and safety systems. All Sanderos come as standard with ABS, traction control, stability control, ISOFIX points in the rear and four airbags. Dacia is realistic about the Sandero’s Euro NCAP test results, though, and it recorded a four-star score.
porsche cayman line 9 = 4.10 % of failure ,period 2005 -12
This car is ideal, if you just want a basic cheap SUV of auto trader used and second hand for run about and scores cheapest SUV for it age since 2013 to 2019 on record sales of second hand used cars. For the price, l would save up and buy a Hyundai Tucson SUV as it lot spacious, reliable on 2WD standard that feel like a 4WD and practical good on any road. With this car, it is good for short journeys and shopping but not good for large families and long commuting. If you see a range like this, think of it like a cheap flick movie romcom and that you are a French female cruising down local street waving to you girls in this car. For tall men my size and weight then consider this not to be durable as it small, snabby also give you mates wrong impression of you personality. Meanwhile this ride is really good for any female drivers that enjoy shopping, also putting baby in the back seat chair but other than that then l won't bother for myself because had one and didn't last long after 12,876 miles in one year it needed two full services and costs weren't cheap also spent more time being in garage partially rest of one month in a year due to issues with electrics, steering out of place and radiator pipe repairs aren't cheapest when SUV get flushed just over genuine pipes overheated and corroded due to my long journeys with a correct full top up of engine coolant. If anything, these brand cars belong to young female or male students just wanting a short and cheap ride to get around city or town driving. Only plus side is, the boot space is reasonable good and handles great around bends but that about it as of because fuel costs this car barely reach 320 miles on full tank as after every one day and half l am back down fuel station which is expensive after one month. I tried them all, my last four cars were Renault Capture 2013, 2014, 2015, 2019 and yet still have same issues as previously stated above, yep more radiator pipe bursting or corroding also needed two services from all long journeys in my diesel 1.5 Captures l been doing regardless which is just insane. Even mechanic dealers said mate, you want something bigger and that is more practicable for you long commuting because it just will cost you more profit. It took me awhile till l slept on it and finally gave in then agreed with mechanic, so incase you wondering fellas then stick with a stronger and a lot bigger car SUV for price range as serious men of buisness also working class need a ride that feel practically safe for our dignity also give a good drive for cost with no issues maintaining, servicing or refuelling. My new car now is a Hyundai Tucson 1.6 2016 model and for it old age hasn't run me down or failed after 10,465 miles counting which only need one year full service and get you as far as 428 miles on full tank of diesel or petrol. After four years of part exchange and buying new Capture each year to finally learning more about Capture hidden issues, then all l say is bloody brilliant thinking from top Renault!
volvo serie 30 6.31 percent of failures
Not only did Renaults reliability remain dismal after Nissan, they lowered Nissans reliability too.
See consumer reviews of the 2004 nissan maxima at edmunds dot com.
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The one you opt not to own. They're all nothing but trouble. Always have been. Better off with a Honda or Toyota.
Plenty more to say. And you can add to my voice the majority on the Renault uk form that voted to not buy one again; WhatCar which consistently rates Renault on the bottom; Consumer Reports whichhas ALWAYS ranked Renault as poor; and the overall negative results that come up when "renault reliability" is googled; and even Renault itself:
w w w. slideshare.
net/noamro25/the-new-renault-excellence-in-reliability-5465292
So yes PLENTY MORE TO SAY!
554 TH
VOLVO
SERIES 440/460
39,02 %
2545
993
i can continue a lot of time with the trademark well known
Speaking of formula one, Renaults shoddy reliability leaves its smear their as well. Search "Renault in formula one wiki". Once their, search fir the word "reliability" and look at the continues reliability issues that brand the Renault image. As i have continued to say, Renault has a long history of unreliablity both on and off the track. Their cars and any other brand they influence
( dacia, nissan, mercedes, samsung motors, etc) are best AVOIDED.
Show me. I'd LOVE to see who Renault paid to gloss over their truly horrible reliability record that they have consistently accumulated over the years. Renaults cars CONTINUE to be laden with problems, breakdowns, and expense. Renaults philosophy of cheapening at the expens of reliability is their management trumps engineering attitude at its finest. Their cars are pure trash.
You've got beautiful eyes
A reliability HISTORY is the onky way to measure a manufacturer's true commitment to reliability. If a company consistently produces cars that lasts 20+ years with few problems, it means a lot more than a comanpy whose reliability falls off a lot early despite the strong initial showing. Case in point Renault laguna 3 on your link has a (years unknown) of 3.98%. Yet this link shows it ages horribly after 3 years
w w w.
anusedcar.
com
/index.php/tuv-model/renault-laguna
Renaults HISTORY poor
well , thinks what you want , just recognise that the serie 3 of renault is reliable , the stats shows it .
i can show you this image report of auto plus ( the brother of autoexpress ,bild etc ..) / images hack . us /photo/my-images/59/numrisation0008b. j p g/
2009 - 29th out of 30
2010 - 30th out of 32
2011 - 33rd out of 35.
Which? (like Choice Mag) also puts them at the bottom.
Consumer Reports rated these American Renault in fluenced models all POOR: Renault Alliance, Dodge Monaco, Eagle Premier, Eagle Medallion.
renaultforums. co. uk /showthread. php?p=942440 ( remove spaces)- owners would not purchase another
romania-insider. com /dacia-logan-fails-german-reliability-test/43153/ (remove spaces) Dacia and Espace = WORST
all the serie 3 clio megane laguna are reliable , the reliability is the priority of renault since the partnership with nissan .
/w w w.adac.de/
and for the reliability of dacia LOOK THIS ( AN ENGLISH WEB SITE HONEST JOHN ) w w w.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/dacia/sandero-2013/
i put the speech if you can t see it :
"When it comes to reliability, Dacia really excels. Every model is extensively tested, primarily so that they can cope with the tough terrain and weather extremes in far-flung destinations, from Colombia to Iran or soon, even the Scottish Highlands. "
for the control technic this is the results of autoplus 2012 : h tt p ://services.autoplus.fr/controle-technique-2012.html
Looks like not much changed for Renault thru the hears according to yiur post. Hahaha.
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You dont judt look st the stats. Your pst shiw that you look and ignore the stats. You also ignore the oeople on Renault Forum uk, you also ignore the consistent low ranking Renault as a whole has garnished year after year. You do Renault owners no favors doing this. Renault has no incentive to improve with folks like you cheering on and ignoring their poor quality. Thry will keep producing trash if especially if you keep asking for it. Up your standards and your expectations.
W w w.
anusedcar.
com/index.php/tuv-report-year-age/2013-4-5/307
2007 Renault supposedly started its "emphasis" on reliability. Yet in 4 short years, the last three vehicles for the most problems are all Renaults.
So yes when Renault screams "look st us we've improved" its smoke and mirrors. It will take TIME to see hiw Renaults AGE before their reliability record even has a chance for improvment, not what they "claim" they've improved on. Talk and shallow "stats" are cheap.
Judt= just
Your pist shiw= your posts show
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://services.autoplus.fr/controle-technique-2012.html
this is the results of our control technic mark by mark .it works if you put the link into google search engine , after you have a result and you click on it .
as i say in another comment , have fun with your car , everybody is free to like or dislike a trademark , i understand if your stats show that renault is in the bottom all the time !
LINE 15 of the web site caradisiac
RENAULT
LAGUNA III
4,54 %
31245 numbers of cars controled
1419 numbers of cars with failures for the period 2007 - 12 ( 5 years )
and toyota auris it s ( line 21 ) 5.21 % number of car with failures for the period 2007 -12
renault is better
TodaysvRenaults mightbas well still be ranked 426th. Muhawhahahaha