Siskel & Ebert - "Rocky"
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- They both like "Rocky", but Gene isn't as enthusiastic as Roger was, saying he didn't think the characters of Adrian and Paulie were believable enough. Ironically, while reviewing the sequels, he claimed the success of the 1st film was because of the love story between Rocky and Adrian.
It's a little known fact that before joining his brother in the plumbing business, Luigi started as a tv movie critic.
KOBUN40 I swear I spit my water out of my mouth! HAHA
I wish I could give 10 thumbs up, one just isn't enough :-D
+Will W. A thumb apiece was good enough for them.
You sir!!! Win the best joke of the video award!!
+KOBUN40 OMG! that took me a minute! You win!
The job Carl Weathers does with the character of Apollo Creed is perhaps the best work I’ve ever seen by an actor. He absolutely becomes him and is the most natural character I’ve ever seen.
He had a good model.
He got ripped off. He should have gotten nominated for an Oscar though you could say that for the entire cast.
Siskel is crazy with this one. Everything about Rocky is great.
Cliff Slatterly yeah and later he praised rocky IV.
DocNintendo He thought Rocky IV was better than this, wtf?
Siskel was always known for his profound inability to understand films, filmmaking or acting. Kind of odd that he would have become a prominent film critic given these limitations, but he did.
Paulie was his best character in this film, became a clownish character in the later films. I always saw him in the 1st film as the example of Rocky's future if he didn't take his shot.
@@DanTheMailman330 Interesting take on the Paulie character. Conversely, Paulie saw in Rocky what he could never be.
I can't decide whether Gene's moustache was magnificent, or absurd.
Well it was the 70's so that was the look.
As was the style at the time
It was absurdly magnificent. Or magnificently absurd. It depends on your sensibilities.
It depends on how they wore it. He had no swagger, so it looks a bit goofy.
I think his mustache is cool kinda Jim Croce vibe
This was when S & E were still on PBS so they weren't making a lot of money. Oftentimes, Gene would go straight to the studio from his day job as a lumberjack.
😁😁😁😁😁! A Lumberjack... hilarious! I wonder what Roger did, before he came to work each day, work as a DJ at the nearest Disco?
Siskel is WRONG. Adrian becomes comfortable as the movie goes on because she becomes comfortable with the main character, Rocky. It changed her. She was never shy with her brother, only other men. Rocky brought her self confidence, and that allowed her to be herself with him too. These things happen all the time.
That moron was usually WRONG...
You're absolutely right. Brothers and Sisters fight all the time but sometimes they literally have no-one else in the world that loves them so they're kind of stuck together in a sense that they don't know any better. Paulie was always putting Adrian down and making her feel like "a loser" and Rocky comes along and is like "you're fantastic" and she finally started to believe it herelf like "oh, ya. I am kind of awesome".
Way to go Ebert !! You've proved you're the best once again !!
That turtleneck and jacket...my life is complete...take me now Lord.
And that dark hair! How old were these two when they did this review? In their 20s-Early 30s? Does anybody know?
@@ronaldshank7589 I think Gene was 30 and Ebert was 34.
Man, watching these old reviews, it's kind of eerie how detached and professional Siskel and Ebert are being. Sometimes it's easy to forget that it took them twenty years to really become "Siskel and Ebert".
I agree, Victor Kong. Ebert, especially, seems more subdued and less vivacious and emotional, I dare say, than he became years later on their program. I preferred him this way.
I don't see any difference. They're critics not entertainers
That movie was, and still is, beautiful beyond words.
Talia Shire's performance is perfect. There are people like her, super-shy types.
+Vebinz You know is movie is powerful when it comments so much on life and the nature of people...not just a sport! Who doesn't cheer for the underdog?!
What do you prefer, Rocky or Raging Bull?
+Qasim Yusuf
Controversial opinion I'm sure, but "Raging Bull" is over-rated.
Deniro hams it up big time.
They're called agoraphobic!
You need to calm down, it's just a movie lol
Watching a few of these, Siskel is on the wrong end of some of the most classic well-loved movies in history the vast majority of the time.
It does seem that way...he usually suspects films that aren't Disney movies from the '90s or don't star Kathleen Turner. I question his taste in movies rather than his judgment about their qualities, though...if any two random people get to screen films once before critical reception and box office earnings come to bear, then without a doubt one of them will have a way different opinion than history does.
Haven't you heard? Gene Siskel was the Head of the Stuffed Shirt Club. You know...those "People" that are so condescending, that they just "know" that they're better than anybody else! Roger Ebert knew how to take Gene down a notch or ten, though. A man with that wild looking sort of a moustache needs to be taken down a time or ten!!!
I was expecting Gene to evilly twist his moustache while tying an innocent woman to the railroad tracks...
Yeah...like Snidely Whiplash!
ahahah MAN. what a time capsule. "The Screenplay was written by a down-and-out New York actor named Sylvester Stalone."
+Bijinius Cross This was his best movie ever.
And one time porno actor.
Ethelred Hardrede “A Party at Kitty and Stud’s” what people don’t know, the actual title of that movie which was shot after Rocky, they renamed it, The Italian Stallion because of the success of, Rocky. Sylvester Stallone said, they shot for two days and he got paid $200.00 for it. He said he was desperate for money and Rocky had not quite taken off until after that movie came out and it was more a movie than a porno. The whole movie is available on pornhub and it’s more voice over.
The truth, I really never liked the first Rocky, I found it way to slow and boring, only toward the end it got good. I liked all the others way more.
@@charles1203 Gene Siskel's 'stache would have gotten star billing in"The Italian Stallion."
The verdict is in. Rocky is one of the top 100 movies of all time. Gene was wrong.
Siskel's stache has a lot of heart and a lot of spirit.
My dad took me to see this in the theater when I was nine. I was mesmerized. Thanks, Dad. ❤️
Watching these old reviews, I'm shocked at how off the mark Gene was a lot of the time.
Except when it came to Blue Velvet and the Rocky sequels where Ebert was usually way off
This looks like an snl skit poking fun at Siskel and Ebert.
Whooaa! That was one big mustache!
Sean Chandler Talks About hey Sean from the past
Hey Shanaanthebest,hello from a year in the future
70's Porn 'stache for the win!
Woah Sean on here?! Really unexpected lol
Interesting to see here how Ebert wasn't as confident yet on television in his presentation and "showmanship". He sounds like he's in a library or an NPR host or something but he gradually grew into TV.
Great dialogue and character development, especially for Rocky, Adrian, Paulie and Micky. Stallone really knew how to write for his characters.
ebert is right on the money as usual, so unfortunate he is not with us anymore
The picture flew right over Gene's head and I think Roger knew he had seen something special.
It is truly ironic that the man criticizing Talia Shire's portrayal of Adriana and Burt Young's portrayal of Paulie for being unbelievable and embarrassing, respectively, is fashioning that moustache.
RIP ROGER EBERT! Greatest film reviewer of all time and also a great screenwriter who is rarely mentioned for his work on some of Russ Meyer's films!
Watched it again in 2021 and it made me tear up all over again. Was a beautiful movie ❤️
How can anyone dislike this movie. Siskel is completely clueless on how to enjoy a good old fashioned movie.
The one thing that always made me smile about the ending of this movie, Rocky yelling for Adrian, ''ADRIAN!'', was that when he first sees her he asks, ''where's your hat?'' Red hat that we see she loses on screen.
Ebert was right. Siskel is applying too much logic. This film is a masterpiece because of the universal emotional truths it stirs up. Sure, it actually takes 2 years to condition yourself for a 15 round fight, and yes, no one could take that many unanswered head shots from a professional heavyweight. But you can find implausible moments in every Oscar winning film. Sly understands dreams and the human heart better than anyone. What a beautiful film! I know Sidney Lumet and Paddy Chayefsky sneered when Rocky won best picture over Network. But they were wrong. Rocky was the best!
Manny Pacquiao back in 2001 became a last minute replacement challenger for the then IBF Super bantamweight world champion Lehlo Ledwaba. And he got the notice 2 weeks before the fight. No one else wanted to take the risk because "2 weeks wasn't enough time". But Pacquiao accepted the offer. And that became the first fight he had in the US under Freddie Roach. The rest is history.
Granted, Pacquiao has always been known to stay in shape in or out of training camp. So even at two week's notice, he was more or less in fighting shape. Nevertheless, the 5-Week training camp in Rocky isn't that impossible as many would think.
Robert Curtis all of the Rocky movies have dozens and dozens of headshots during the fight which you never see in a real heavyweight fight .... they would have gone down on the canvas pretty quick!!
it's for dramatic effect!!
To be fair, Rocky already was pretty strong. It’s not like he started from scratch.
Never saw these guys SO YOUNG before !! I guess this show was on PBS ALOT OF YEARS before I started watching it !
I was surprised too. I used to watch this on PBS it was called "Sneak Peaks"? I think. And the later on they eventually became popular, and it was put on regular tv as Siskel & Ebert. I don't think we even had pbs in 1976 (i was from Canada and we didn't get it until we got cable television somewhere in the late 70s)
@@jimchabai3163 Yeah I think you're right about it being called "Sneak Peaks " but here in New Jersey we had PBS since the late 60's at least ! I'm 58 and I remember Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers VIVIDLY while growing up then . Julia Child too for that matter . Never ran into Siskel and Ebert though because I was so young of course .
I can't concentrate on the review with Siskel's mustache staring at me like this
Great movie that takes place in my favorite city. The 70's was the coolest decade.
This is my favorite movie of all time
Mine too!
That line about going the distance...gets me EVERY TIME.
Absolutely beautiful character moment.
Out of all their reviews, this is the youngest I've ever seen them.
Gene was smart for ditching the 'stache. It looks like a chocolate bar glued to his upper lip.
Its surreal when you think how old this is, when Rocky first came out..Seems like Rocky has been around for a century.
Five more years and it will be at the half-century mark.
Gene on his way to the Blue Oyster club? And who's that old lady he's talking to?
Blue Oyster BAR. It’s on Howell.
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Mrs Doubtfire ?
@@NemeanLion- LMFAO!!!!!!
@@NemeanLion- Somebody should've told him-Gene:If you go to the Blue Oyster, it's two-for-one night, big boy! Two Male Dancers to help you dance, and maybe, if you're lucky, one of 'em will have an extra popper for ya! By the way, Toto-We're not in Kansas anymore!!!
Along with everything else, the look of this film is perfect. I can't think of another film that matches it's grittiness, while still being completely believable.
Rocky is one of my all-time favourites, and Rocky's first kiss with Adrien is THE #1 best kiss in a all of cinema, hands down. Every time I watch it, I just can't get past the sincerity of that scene. Don't care what Siskel thinks, he always over-analyzed things and came at them from the perspective of a'film professor ', God rest his soul.
But Rocky never went to the bathroom, even though he said he had to.
RIP Apollo(Carl) and thanks for the memories. Love you, man!
Ebert in his early 30s already looked like a middle aged lesbian.
+glide11
It's PAT!!
+glide11 : Even in his 50s, he looked like a middle aged lesbian.
Scintillα LMAO
Juggernaut haha mean
He lost a lot of weight by the 1990s.
I once bought a roll of bounty paper towels from gene siskel.
Go love that Siskel & Ebert 70s hair.
It seems like more often than not Siskel got it wrong. Rocky won the oscar for best picture and is considered a classic.
Wow, never seen them this young. But man I can’t believe Gene was downplaying such a great movie. Ebert was so right on this one.
I think the worst thing that happened to Rocky was all those sequels. If the original had been the only Rocky film, it would be remembered as what is was in 1976: a small, well-reviewed, effective, art-house film that struck a chord with people and became a box office hit. It was similar to 1955's Best Picture winner Marty, about an emotionally wounded man and woman who find self-esteem in each other.
+larrydirtybird I disagree, it's because of the sequels that the original Rocky is so well known. Who remembers Marty in this day and age? Yet everyone knows Rocky. Plus, most of the sequels aren't even that bad, the second film was actually really good, as was the final film, and the in-between installments were mostly campy fun. Except the fifth, which even Stallone wishes he could erase.
+larrydirtybird Rocky is pretty much considered a masterpiece. A brilliant story about what most men want -- a chance to prove themselves. The sequels are all just junk paydays. The character was popular so audiences went. Ironically, the Rocky character in the sequels was nothing about what the original film was about. And yeah, Siskel very often just didn't get it.
+Nelson Montana thanks for saying exactly what I think. I love this movie so so much. It's just brilliant. Kinda sad that Sly did not write more screenplays - he was obviously so good at it. "Rocky" is my all time favorite movie, and I generally watch it at least once a month. A little jewelry box of a movie.
Now there's an idea. Who's got the rights to 'Marty'? I feel a movie franchise opportunity has been overlooked. 'Marty II: The Next Dance'.
All the Rocky movies outside of V are great. Creed was very good as well.
The ending of this movie is so brilliant. The MC announcing that Creed won the fight and retained his title is completely drowned out by the music and Rocky calling for Adrienne because that doesn't matter to him. He went the distance, earned the respect of everyone and got the girl. In the end Rocky was actually the one who won
I can't decide which is funnier, Gene's moustache or Rogers haircut? Yet again though Siskel puts down another one of my favorite movies. The original Rocky picture is a classic.
Fun fact: Gene's mustache had its own contract. A breakdown in negotiations forced it to leave shortly after this filming.
I watched this movie for the first time a few years ago when I stared college, no sure what to expect all I knew was the theme song and people thing it's inspiring. Damn right it is!
First time? What are you, a coddled zoomer?
LOL!
Is that Gene Siskel or Freddie Mercury?
That moustache is wild, man, wild! Really, though, it isn't all that bad. If he'd of just trimmed it back a little bit, it'd of been perfect!
Ebert's turtleneck trumps Siskel's monster stash!
Moustache, hair and outfits. Didn't realize how old their show was.
Classic
I never understood how Sylvester could make such a masterpiece but still make such terrible other films. almost like he made Rocky a masterpiece by accident
He got cocky.
Paulie never said "I'm a loser."
As for Adrian's shyness, it's absolutely exquisite.
Ebert in this video looks like my 10th literature teacher
Siskel was maddeningly inconsistent with his critiques at times. He complained that in Rocky 3 the love story was no longer there, Rocky was no longer the lovable blue collar hero, the villain was too one-dimensional, etc. But then he gave Rocky 4 a glowing review, despite all those complaints being totally valid in that film.
Gene's moustache is putting me through an emotional ringer.
Ebert is right. Siskel is bringing way too much logic to his argument about Paulie and Adrian's characters. Everyone knows people who are exactly like them in life. Next he'll say Burgess Meredith's character was way too harsh. But then,he liked that idiotic Rocky 4 sequel. Go figure
Winning the Oscar for Best Picture changes certain people's outlook.
Little known fact. Before joining Queen, Freddie Mercury was a film critic
In this early review, neither of them seems super comfortable... As Ebert has said, it took them a number of years ...
This is some rare stuff. VHS wasn't that ubiquitous in the 1970s.
Did they ever fix that mirror in Paulie’s bar?
Wow I never knew Siskel and Ebert worked together that long
Hahaha I thought this was a Halloween special episode lol but it's just the disco 70's. 🤣 I was born the year Rocky came out.
Anyone else as infuriated by Siskel's assessment of Burt Young and Talia Shire's performances in Rocky?
Infuriated by the opinion a dead man gave over four decades ago, about a movie that was released over four decades ago? No, not me - life's too short for me to get angry that easily over something that trivial. Anyone else?
Geez, Wanda. You seem infuriated by my comment.
"You're bringing too much logic to the movie. It seems to me, it works on an emotional level or it doesn't work at all."
Great response.
Gene doesn't like a lot of classics. Roger seems to recognise the movies that hold up over time.
What???? Siskel had a tasche and a combo over??? Epic
The robust mustache is probably to compensate for his thinning hair.
***** He shaved it due to complaints he was getting during cunnilingus is what I heard. Too much bristle for the thistle. Seriously, these guys were slammin' top-shelf pussy after making it onto public radio...that's like a license to seduce bored and intellectually understimulated housewives.
***** I a boy and that's a GOOD THING. It means that I'm not a rutting beast like Siskel or Ebert.
Nelson Robert Willis Mrs. Siskel AND several mistresses. Both of these guys had dibs on America's choicest intellectually starved and emotionally neglected housewives. Many were the nights that these public television celebrities would 'stimulate' such female's minds and then, bodies, after randomly encountering them in the shopping plazas and bars of Chicago.
Gene Siskel is going to be the starting point guard on my all-moustache team.
This looks like an SNL skit that is a parody of Siskel and Ebert in the 70's haha...and yet it is real.
The only thing unrealistic about Rocky is that the boxing commission would never sanction the match as a title fight.
Gene looks like Freddie Mercury!
RIP Gene Siskel
I am so glad to have finally found this!!
Siskel was always over-analyzing and Ebert always had a giant heart and tummy.. what people don't know is this is based on a true story. Muhammad Ali gave Chuck wepner a shot at the title in 1975 just before this movie came out he knocked Ali down was first person to ever knock him down
James Smith---- Thanks James!
however there's no solid proof Ali tripped over wepners foot..... just like the Sonny Liston punch.. there's no solid proof... even though there was cameras everywhere from every angle ...
ironic isn't it?
@@piper888
" however there's no solid proof Ali tripped over wepners foot.....
Well that is because you can see Wepner STEPPING ON Ali's foot. He stepped on it while hitting him. Not quite the same as tripping and it may have been intentional. Might not as Wepner was pretty unskilled.
@@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv either which way Wepner went the distance.... 15 rounds with Ali and that alone is pretty impressive
@@piper888
He was tough, little doubt there.
Ali claims Werner never knocked him down he claims he stepped on his foot which forced him down plus Ali was knocked down several times before that once by Frazier and the other by Henry Cooper
The dreaded porn mustache, NOOOOO. I don’t remember ever seeing him with one. I probably didn’t know of them in the 70’s.
PS - sadly Aaron Rodgers is wearing this mustache today. SMH
Siskel was wildly off the mark here. There was nothing "ridiculous" about Adrian's shyness - that lack of confidence is commonplace, and especially realistic given her relationship with Paulie, an aggressive drunk who had been forcing her into a corner her whole life. Likewise, those aspects of Paulie's character were written and acted with total authenticity. Siskel was dead wrong, on both counts.
I have been watching several of these editions and all these blockbusters, Gene disliked them all, even the Terminator 😂
I couldn't believe it when Gene said 'whatever planet he came from' about Reese. Earth to Gene: he's from EARTH!
Gene didn't dislike all blockbusters. He liked Rocky IV and he liked Rambo III.
Wow Gene and Roger were Reviewing films when I was in Diapers, And I was Reviewing Films when MatPat and Quinton were in Diapers. I'm as old as ROCKY (1976).
Always a hoot seeing personalities you grew up with in their 70s look. Takes you like a smack in the face 🤣
I like how they dressed up to make it look like the 70s.
It WAS the '70s!!! I still can't believe that Gene Siskel would trash Talia Shire's character like that. How heartless can you get, Gene?!? At least Roger had the good sense not to be so condescending!
Everything Ebert says years later about Sofia Coppola's "natural" performance in Godfather III actually applies more aptly to Talia Shire (FF Coppola's real life sister) in this movie. The difference is that Shire is a good actress who knows what she's doing.
You realize he does praise the movie right. And in his reviews of the sequels, he actually praised the Rocky-Adrian dynamic.
I used to love this show, but always felt Siskel rarely looked at movies the way I did or perhaps many other people did. As a result, I didn't put much stock in his reviews.
Siskel was just trying to provide some criticism to some plot points, he did always enjoy the movie, he just didn't think it was the best it could've been. I kinda agree with that. However, I still loved it.
I think Gene Siskel and Robert Ebert should be required viewing for all upcoming generations to watch how to intelligently, conversationally, and socially disagree with someone. They had a lot of different view points, sometimes together, sometimes opposed, but they always respected each other. Hell, I remember sitting at home and watching them while I disagreed with BOTH of them, but I still continued to watch them every week because I respected their opinions even if they differed from my own sometimes. I get the feeling it was the same for y'all too!
Both looks 20-30 years older then what they were
loved rocky one two & three
Siskel's mustache loved this movie.
let me get this straight, Siskel didn't like Rocky, but he liked Rocky IV...?
He liked ROCKY, he just didn't love it... But he really did love IV... and V. Go figure...
I guess IV was better because Adrian wasn't shy anymore.
Rocky won Best Picture of the year, and though Rocky IV is entertaining, there's no way you can compare the two, it is absurd.
Rocky 5 was pure trash .
The boxing scenes in boxing movies or usually much better than actual boxing matches.
It shows they don't know everything Rocky won the Oscar for best picture that year
I have a feeling that Roger kept getting distracted by Gene's mustache and thinking "Really? Really?"
The Rocky series is that rare series where they're all great. Even Rocky V which has its fair share of cheese. I enjoy every single one of them.
I didn't think Gene was too logical, I understand why he would think Paulie and Adrian weren't good.
Honestly, both guys were right.
Back when siskel and ebert were super chill guys lol. You watch all there 70s episodes and they are so polite and classy about their reviews lol
They were just middle class guys here, by the 90s they were millionaires.
Watch the Nostalgia Critic's tribute to them, which Ebert described as "The best, funniest video about Siskel & Ebert I've ever seen."