3.0 DURAMAX.....I REGRET Buying This Truck!

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    I am very disappointed with this engine. This video is based mostly off my opinion and experience with this truck. I don't see where this truck has a place in the market or what advantages it has over gas. There will be more of these videos to come, so make sure you subscribe so you can follow along. Thanks for watching! ‪@whistlindiesel‬
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Комментарии • 839

  • @SpicerDesignsLLC
    @SpicerDesignsLLC  10 месяцев назад +4

    Check out the oil consumption solution here: ruclips.net/video/5qiGOp9-u-Y/видео.html

  • @bpl0807
    @bpl0807 Год назад +144

    Unfortunate to see your ownership experience hasn’t been too great, there’s always gonna be a few that don’t turn out as expected. My wife and I both drive our own 3.0L Duramax Silverado’s and can’t relate to anything in this video except the lack of noise, these things are the quietest diesels I’ve owned. Both of our trucks have had no measurable oil loss between 5000 mile changes and DEF usage is almost nonexistent when we aren’t pulling anything but does increase noticeably when we hook something up. Power wise, these trucks kick ass compared to even a modern day 5.3L and are more on par with that of the 6.2L when pulling any kind of load or merging on a busy highway. Fuel economy, that’s the big ticket here, our trucks unloaded regularly achieve high 20s into the mid 30s mpg and into the high teens when pulling around 8000lbs.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +9

      I totally agree with you. The performance is great when towing and i get about 22 mpg without a load which is good considering the small lift and larger tires. The oil consumption is the killer for me, but i think something is wrong with my truck. Has to be. Thanks for the nice comment!

    • @v8chevy788
      @v8chevy788 Год назад +13

      @bpl0807 - I've shared the same experience with my 3.0 and have not had any significant oil loss either.
      @SpicerDesginsLLC - Very entertaining and informative video. It's unfortunate to hear that you are having such a bad experience with the 3.0.
      I just wanted to share that you can pickup DEF up for about $9.00/2.5 gal at Rural King if you have one near by. I have been running the "cheap-o" DEF for a while now with no issues. As you mentioned, it's primarily water so I believe that some of these more "premium" $17 versions are just ripping us off.
      As for the gassers, don't get me wrong, I love V8Chevy gassers and I had a 5.3 in an older Silverado and currently have 6.2 in my C7 and they are absolutely great engines, but no way would I take either of them over the 3.0 in a truck that I daily drive. If it was a weekend warrior type truck then, I would considerate it.
      My only gripe is that I wish the exhaust was a lot louder and the engine had more noise. I can't even hear the exhaust unless it's in re-gen mode and I can barely hear the engine. Hell if I roll the windows down, the wind noise drowns out the engine. Other than that, I've been having a great experience with mine.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +5

      @@v8chevy788 I appreciate the comment. Glad your 3.0 is working out. I think i have a dud. Unfortunately i dont have a rural king near by. Next time im around one i will stock up as long as i still have the truck. Im going to take it to the dealer before i sell to see if the oil consumption can be addressed.

    • @John.ThirteenPoint6969
      @John.ThirteenPoint6969 Год назад +4

      Update us after 150k and once the warranty is done.

    • @jemhidiahssj4114
      @jemhidiahssj4114 Год назад +3

      @@SpicerDesignsLLC just find a local truck stop with bulk def at the pump bro! Wtf are we even talking about😂

  • @tuanvu9020
    @tuanvu9020 Год назад +87

    My 21 3.0, with 80,000 miles, is great. Not a single issue. I dont tow much. 5gal of DEF last me about every 7K miles. Pretty much oil change and DEF and drive. Consistently average 600 miles every fill up.

    • @jeffwhisperinthewind
      @jeffwhisperinthewind Год назад +2

      Is that mostly highway driving?

    • @tuanvu9020
      @tuanvu9020 Год назад +2

      @@jeffwhisperinthewind about 70% highway.

    • @johnlocklin2772
      @johnlocklin2772 9 месяцев назад +1

      Wait till the belt breaks that drives the oil pump. It's a boat anchor.

    • @tuanvu9020
      @tuanvu9020 9 месяцев назад +2

      @johnlocklin2772 did it happen to you, or are you just speculating?

    • @johnlocklin2772
      @johnlocklin2772 9 месяцев назад

      Saw an engine wadded from one that let go. I wouldn't own one. Belt driven oil pump. Can't help but laugh. No speculation here.@@tuanvu9020

  • @lenurban199
    @lenurban199 Год назад +47

    My previous truck was a 6.0 2500 HD and got around 14 mpg pulling nothing. Now I get double that. Happily satisfied with the 28 I'm getting now. Got the max tow package (13300 lbs) on it as well, which beats the 5.3 for towing. Not sure why your burning so much oil. I think the "normal" for these trucks is 1 quart per 2000 miles. Might want to get that checked out.

  • @rossrosseland7427
    @rossrosseland7427 Год назад +29

    After you fix your oil leak and find a local truck stop with DEF at the pump, we'll expect a video talking about how awesome your minimax is.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +5

      I will! Only problem is theres no truck stops around me now. The truck does perform well. I dont deny that. I just got a dud with the oil issue.

    • @jemhidiahssj4114
      @jemhidiahssj4114 Год назад +1

      Truck stops everywhere with bulk def

    • @scottsmith1544
      @scottsmith1544 Год назад +4

      For starters, your video is corny AF.. Number 2, your truck must burn oil, because I have no issues with having to add oil. Lastly, I get about 2500 miles on full DEF … you got a lemon bro

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      @@jemhidiahssj4114 not by me. No truck stops near by. But I understand tour point.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +6

      @@scottsmith1544 make your own channel and show me how its done Scott. I try to attract viewers with a sense of humor. Might not be for you.

  • @richardoaks3597
    @richardoaks3597 Год назад +18

    I got the LZ0 engine and I just did 400 miles of towing a camper and lost no oil. However it ate through def and it is very quiet. I did fill my def tank up at the flying j. A lot cheaper than buying in store.

  • @danwyrick9616
    @danwyrick9616 3 месяца назад +6

    I have a 2020 with over 120,000 miles. I've never had any of these issues. I did not tow much, but I did tow an 8,000# trailer over 1,200 miles. On that trip, my DEF use increased significantly because the motor was working so hard. I drove the entire trip, averaging 70MPH, and she didn't skip a beat. Even on that trip, I was 1/2 guart low on oil when the trip was over. Sounds to me that you may have a bigger mechanical concern with your truck, but I would not say that it's a systematic issue with the 3,0. This is the best truck I've had, and I plan to keep it forever, which is something I've never said about any of my previous trucks. All that being said, I did enjoy the video. It was entertaining and fun to watch, even though I don't agree with your assessments.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for the positive comment. I did make a follow up video addressing the bulletin causing the oil and def consumption. Faulty valve cover. You may want to check that video out to see if your valve cover is defective. May not be an issue now but it could fail.

  • @jeffporter7846
    @jeffporter7846 Год назад +26

    Mine went almost 4K miles on one tank of DEF. filled up the DEF at Bucees for $17.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      Mine was fairly normal when i wasnt towing. Towing is where I noticed it consuming a lot more def, fuel and oil. I understand more DEF and fuel. The oil consumption is where the concern is.

    • @mudslutmusic9052
      @mudslutmusic9052 Год назад +1

      Me too lol

    • @DaimlerMiller-kx2qs
      @DaimlerMiller-kx2qs Год назад +1

      Agreed lol.

    • @michaelburdette2198
      @michaelburdette2198 Месяц назад

      I get my DEF at tractor supply when on sale for less than $8 per 2.5 gallon jug.

  • @Ishkatan
    @Ishkatan Год назад +7

    I could skip the comedy but really appreciated the numbers and the PIA issues you point out really make the point(er).

  • @shawnmh837
    @shawnmh837 2 месяца назад +3

    I hear your pain brother, but the 3.0 was engineered to be a direct replacement for the gas engines. It’s not meant to be a tow monster. Compare it to the 5.3 and it kills it with torque and economy. The 6.2 is a beast, and if you are towing with a 1500 that’s what you need to buy.
    The tow rating on the 3.0 is rated low for a reason, it’s not your brothers 6.6. It’s meant to be a direct replacement for the regular daily driver guy. GM even states to drive it like your normal 1/2 ton truck. So in this case it gets much improved economy and incredible driveability with 460 tq off the line, vs the 6.2 at 3,500 RPM.
    If you tow you are going to use a ton of DEF, remember it’s only 3.0 liters.
    I have a ‘21 LM2 and my average regen is 420 miles and I fill DEF every 4,000 miles.. but I use it like the 5.3 it replaced. Lifetime mileage at 106,000 is 21.2, and I mostly city drive. The 6.2 in my Yukon shows lifetime mileage of 16.3. And the 6.2 requires premium fuel, which is always within $.10 of diesel.
    I am so happy GM has continued this small Duramax. I get 26-30 mpg when I take it on the highway. My 6.2 or previous 5.3’s would be lucky to be above 20.
    Just my $.02.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  2 месяца назад +1

      I recently posted a video regarding the oil and def consumption. Was an issue related to a service bulletin. May want to check that out, your truck falls under the year possibly affected. Otherwise i hear what your saying. One of the selling points of that motor is the towing, Which is kind of misleading.

  • @koryscullawl8895
    @koryscullawl8895 11 месяцев назад +3

    The 5.3 is a turd though. Gutless wonder notorius for blowing up. That 5.3 won't get 23 going downhill with a tailwind. I get the 3.0 has other cost of ownership but its way better than the 5.3. The 6.2 has more torque and HP than 5.3 and gets roughly the same MPG.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +4

      I did have a 6.2 trailboss. It was pretty nice. I guess at the end of the day theres no perfect motor. Just depends on what your familiar and comfortable with. The 3.0 is not a bad option. Just not great for towing in my opinion. I have a good towing video coming soon. The LZ0 is supposed to be way better.

    • @koryscullawl8895
      @koryscullawl8895 11 месяцев назад +4

      I think it depends on what you are towing...anything less than 7000LBs that durmax is great because of that torque curve, other than it becomes a def-aholic. Gets way better MPG towing than gas engines espeically those with Twin Turbos. Those things SUCK fuel when towing. But you are right...no perfect motor for every situation. TT motors get better MPG's not towing, crazy HP and torque for displacement, but suck more fuel than naturally aspirated motors when you load them. The 3.0 diesel is by far the best option for any half ton truck...until the EPA gets involved. DEF, sensors, DPF's, the EPA just kills diesels. If the 3.0L didn't have all the EPA crap it would be hard to beat in any situation. @@SpicerDesignsLLC

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +4

      @@koryscullawl8895 i totally agree with you. I appreciate the positive comment. Ill be towing about 6k plus the trailer next week. 9 hour trip. Should be a good video for the LM2.

  • @bertschb
    @bertschb Год назад +81

    You forgot to mention the one massive advantage of the Duramax over the GM 5.3, no lifter failures caused by the AFM system. I wouldn't take a current 5.3 engine if it was $20,000 cheaper than the 3.0.

    • @John.ThirteenPoint6969
      @John.ThirteenPoint6969 Год назад +11

      Comparing the cost of 3.0 an the oil pump drive belt cost to replace. Majority of cost being labor. Along with all the other stupid emission equipment and issues an cost that comes along with an econo diesel.
      Lifter issue can be a once and done with a aftermarket cam and tune at the fraction of the cost.
      Though I do agree I wouldn’t take the current 5.3 either. Or a newer Chevy at all. They’re going down hill big time. Plus just look at the front end and mirror placement lol
      Is the fad of having red tow hooks because they break down so frequently and easier for the tow truck driver to spot?

    • @jemhidiahssj4114
      @jemhidiahssj4114 Год назад +6

      Depends on whether you are a stance boy or really using your truck. 3.0 is gonna be better if you actually tow shit!

    • @jemhidiahssj4114
      @jemhidiahssj4114 Год назад

      Are you just reciting what you have heard or have actual proof?

    • @John.ThirteenPoint6969
      @John.ThirteenPoint6969 Год назад +5

      @@jemhidiahssj4114 using your truck requires red tow hooks? Buddy a stanced 2500hd or 3500hd with a real duramax would outwork one of these econoboxes all day any day. On a serious note what experience do you have with them. Do you think it’s cheap for a dealership or anyone for that matter to pull the transmission? It’s a stupid design really. They are designed over complicated and as far as quality of parts gm sure doesn’t have a very good track record lately. These 3.0 trucks are gonna be over occupying the junkyards like the older colorados and trailblazers with the 5 cylinder. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that. Just watch the engineer video discussion this engine.
      Once they get a little older the effort and cost of changing the belt and all the other bs repairs will outweigh the cost of just scraping is and getting another new truck.

    • @israelevans4916
      @israelevans4916 Год назад +2

      Omg yesss i had lifter failure in my 2008 gmc and 2018 Silverado way to expensive to fix I just live with it and tho both of those trucks was good after 60k miles sometimes less it begins and is terrible long live the duramax never going back

  • @robertbuhlman7757
    @robertbuhlman7757 Год назад +23

    My lzo engine has bin fantastic no oil consumption and def consumption almost unnoticeable fuel mpg 27-36 mpg

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +4

      Ive heard they are a lot better. I get 23 on the highway. I do have a 2” lift and 33’s which dont help. Glad your liking the LzO

  • @wvince8115
    @wvince8115 Год назад +10

    I'll have to disagree with you on this. I bought a 2023 LZ0 1500 Sierra 4wd. The 2023 models have been upgraded with more HP and more torque. Fuel mileage for me is around 28 on highway. Diesel is around the same price as 91 octane here in Louisiana. Because of additives, I always ran high octane in my vehicles so I don't see price of diesel being an issue. I intend to keep this truck as long as I can. I think the future will see higher gas prices as the government tries to phase it out. The trucking industry will still need diesel at reasonable prices in order for inflation to be kept in check. In the long run, I think my diesel will be more economical. I don't have any oil burn issues and my DEF usage looks to be similar to what others are saying so around 1500 miles per gallon. I had no issues hauling my small trailer loaded with 3 tons of rock but didn't have to go very far. I have always been a Ford truck guy but this engine made me buy GM. So far, I am loving this truck.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      Glad your having a good experience. That motor is better than the original which is what i have. There were definite issues with my motor which is likely why they redesigned it so quick. Thats more what the video is based on. I did a lot of towing with mine and it excessively ate oil. I agree they do get good fuel milage. Thanks for the comment!

  • @kippystarling3638
    @kippystarling3638 9 месяцев назад +12

    My opinion from what I've been hearing GM needs to upgrade to a more thicker oil a little maybe a 5/30. If the oil is too thin it's going to find an exit and diesels use a little oil during the break in and going to use even more if you're working the truck. A lot of stopping and starting isn't good for a diesel engine either. If you're engine shuts off at a redlight that's not good because a diesel needs to idle around 10 to 15mins after you've been driving or traveling. Making it simple it's the same as putting high compression pistons in a gas engine it will vapor lock and struggle to start, a diesel has high compression pistons and does vapor lock from time to time and it'll be difficult to start but this mostly doesn't happen unless you are working it very hard for a long period of time. People need to go and learn how to take care of a diesel engine before purchasing.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  9 месяцев назад +4

      I think the 3.0 needs some work. Theyre too worried about advertising the mpgs and the tow capacity. Been when you tow with it, it eats oil. I agree with your comment. I shit the auto start off as soon as i get in.

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 3 месяца назад

      The issue is the valve cover. There is a TSB on why the valve cover is causing oil consumption. The supplier of the valve cover didn't detect that there was a defective internal weld and it allows oil to leak into a ventilation tube. That sucks the oil into the engine intake where it gets burned. That oil causes the DPF to soot up prematurely and causes excessive DEF usage. Once the new valve cover is installed, the oil consumption is pretty much eliminated.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  3 месяца назад

      @hochhaul i made an update video covering that bulletin. The truck is now repaired.

    • @robertmanley6102
      @robertmanley6102 Месяц назад

      The reason they use such a rhin oil is to meet epa fuel efficiency standards. 1/2 ton trucks are more regulated than 3/4 ton or 1 ton trucks and have to meet stricter standards. Ram has a similar issue that is oil related, engine ticking. I've heard many people start using a little bit heavier oil and the ticking goes away. In the 5.7 Ram they recommend a certain oil but in the 3/4 ton with a 5.7 they recommend a heavier oil. It's because they don't have to meet the stricter standards in the larger trucks. In other words the manufacturers are using lightweight oil to save some some money at your expense. Buy a heavier weight synthetic and I bet the oil consumption goes away.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Месяц назад

      @robertmanley6102 oil consumption was due to a defective part covered in a service bulletin effecting all LM2. So if you have an LM2 you might want to check out my follow up video. Its has over 100k views and a lot of thanks you.

  • @edwardpate6128
    @edwardpate6128 Год назад +8

    I have a 2022 LM2 GMC Sierra and absolutely love it. Zero issues and my mileage just amazing. I change oil every 5K miles and it has used absolutely nothing between changes. DEF fluid usage not towing about one 2.5 jug every 5K miles.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +4

      Thats great! Your having better luck then i am. Towing is where i really noticed the oil consumption. Otherwise i only have to add a quart every 1k or so. Theres a lot of forums with people having the same issue. Thanks for the comment

  • @minutemanmac
    @minutemanmac Год назад +17

    I have a 2020 3.0 in an RST and I love it. 137K miles on it and 0 issues with the motor or anything oil related. Loving my 29mpg average
    The DexosD when it first came out I had to buy in bulk due to "covid" supply chain issues but now i can easily find it.
    Only issue Ive had has been that damn Ford/Chevy join 10 speed transmission where it locked up at 70k on the interstate. 2 TSBs out for it that my dealer "missed".

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      Glad to hear your having better luck with yours. The oil consumption is my biggest problem with it.

    • @travisspoerle1557
      @travisspoerle1557 Год назад +1

      I have a 2022 AT4 with the 3.0 duramax for my work truck. 38k miles on 0 issues. 28-35 MPG depending on driving. This engine is amazing. I have not seen the oil consumption issue at all.

  • @carpetemporium5957
    @carpetemporium5957 Год назад +6

    Here in California i buy my diesel for the same price as gas, i average 28 miles per gallon on my 3.0 diesel, and my def fluid lasts me from one oil change to another, about 6500 miles, so when i get the oil change they also fill up the def fluid. I haven’t added any quart of oil between oil changes. I got 16 miles per gallon towing my 29 ft trailer. It was only a $1000 up charge over the 5.3 on my RST, no reason to buy the 5.3.

  • @kaivonmortazavi8656
    @kaivonmortazavi8656 11 месяцев назад +6

    I can understand how your experience has been frustrating. At the same time I borrowed a friends 5.3L 2021 model Tahoe for a test tow of my camper over 10’000 ft mountain pass in the Colorado Rockies and found it lacking compared to the sheer power in the LM2. The LM2 does not have the top in but leaves the 5.3L in its dust off the line and when towing. So for towing anything in the 5,500 Ibs or higher you really need to compare it with a 6.2L and then the 18 mpg (at best not towing) and using Premium fuel really make the match a no brainer in favor of the diesel…. Plus no bent push rods, broken springs or collapsed lifter issues.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +4

      I agree. Performance is fine with the lm2. Even better now with the lzo. Mine just burns a lot of oil when towing

  • @watwatsen
    @watwatsen 10 месяцев назад +5

    Immediately liked this at "and if you don't like our videos, well, I don't really care"

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  10 месяцев назад +5

      Haha. Just laying it out there ya know.

  • @PurcellsProDetail
    @PurcellsProDetail Месяц назад +2

    Stumbled upon your channel as I’m looking into possibly getting a new Silverado. Undecided on 5.3 or 3.0… this video was definitely helpful.
    I used to have a 21 trail boss. Gave it in for the 23 Colorado because I’m a moron.
    So now going back to Silverado.
    I’m bummed I was hoping to hear good things about the 3.0. I’ve always wanted a diesel but this definitely helps me make up my mind.
    Most likely going for the 5.3.
    Keep the videos up, I love it

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Месяц назад +1

      @@PurcellsProDetail thanks for the comments. I got a lot of backlash from this video. I recently posted a follow up with the service bulletin that was causing the oil and def consumption. Its bow repaired but there seems to be a lot of issues with these motors. A lot of people have really good luck too.

  • @stephaniealden4926
    @stephaniealden4926 4 месяца назад +3

    Bought mine brand new. 60,000 miles on the dash with zero issues! The 2020s had a recall for oil consumption due to the front camshaft cover issue.
    Check the vin number and talk to your dealer about the recall.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  4 месяца назад +2

      I already made a follow up video with the repair. That was the issue. It wasnt a recall though just a service bulletin. It should be a recall.

  • @user-bz9zl1sr4t
    @user-bz9zl1sr4t 8 месяцев назад +3

    I have a 21 silverado 3.0 liter. 53,000 miles and no problems. I add no oil between changes. Lots of power and super mileage. 28 to 34. Love it. You must have a lemon or the truck was abused before you got it. Good luck!

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  8 месяцев назад +4

      Almost the same milage as mine. I have about 56k. I actually had a gm service manager reach out because of this video. They put a team together and figured out whats wrong with my motor. It is leaking internally. Will have an update soon. Otherwise i do like the motors

  • @michaelanderson9352
    @michaelanderson9352 10 месяцев назад +3

    Had a G. M. Diesel and it was a p.o.s.and the warranty wasn’t worth the paper that it was written on! Want a real diesel truck? Buy a Ram!

    • @radioflyer9959
      @radioflyer9959 10 месяцев назад

      My buddy had a pos ram here in northern mi, it rusted out in 10 years. Just bought a Silverado duramax luv it . Owning several gm never once had issues with the warranty

  • @chrisc.treemendous6244
    @chrisc.treemendous6244 4 месяца назад +2

    The 2.7 turbo is a good option. I have a 23 silverado 1500 trail boss. I love it.

  • @johnphillips7092
    @johnphillips7092 Год назад +4

    had a 2020 3.0 and loved it now have a 2023 towed 5000 # rv ist 1400 miles used 3 gallons def and 1/2 qt of oil. wouldn't even consider towing more that 8000# with a 1/2 ton pick-up.

  • @CharlesDonaldson-oz2dl
    @CharlesDonaldson-oz2dl Месяц назад +1

    I've got to put this comment in for your own good . I have a couple of vehicles that call for 20 weight and I will not put that in an engine that I own.
    Also I have a 19 model 2.8 Duramax that suggests 30 weight oil, and not the D rating... Just bought her 5 years old and she's perfectly great so far. Started off with the 2000 mile trip home. I used 10w 30 diesel oil. T6 soon as I got her home. zr2

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Месяц назад +1

      @@CharlesDonaldson-oz2dl had a defective valve cover. I covered the service bulletin addressing this in a follow up video. Turns out a lot of people are having this issue.

  • @emiliorodriguez8511
    @emiliorodriguez8511 11 месяцев назад +13

    I love this truck, I’ve owned every truck brand and engine and so far this truck has been my favorite. Your review of the truck didn’t seem that bad and if struggling to put def in your truck is your criticism you might as well add all diese trucks to your review. Thank you for the video

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +3

      Glad your having a good experience with your truck. Mine just like to eat oil. Def definitely sucks and its not very good for the motors but I understand its all part of it now. Thanks for the positive comment. Ill have an update soon with some proof of oil consumption.

    • @brettdesroches9162
      @brettdesroches9162 7 месяцев назад

      I can loan you some money for def bud?

  • @scottyellis3442
    @scottyellis3442 Год назад +3

    I personally have owned 2 Silverado's with the 5.3 & both were a big pile of crap & I've also owned a Chevy car with the 3.5 (best i can remember) for my wife & just like the trucks big pile of crap. I'm finished with Chevrolet.

  • @mfstr
    @mfstr 11 месяцев назад +6

    Oil consumption is one thing, everything else is irrelevant. If you live out west the Duramax at elevation will WAY outperform the 5.3L. And that is what you are paying extra for.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +4

      I agree. Just took it to chevy. They gave me a run around about the oil consumption. Basically wont do anything about it or even look at it.

    • @mfstr
      @mfstr 11 месяцев назад +4

      @SpicerDesignsLLC I'm having my own Chevy problems, have a 3500HD dually with 43k miles, bought it with 12k mi a little over a year ago. has always had light/slightly sloppy steering, took it to them under warranty, they charged for an alignment. I "assumed " all was well with the steering after that and this truck just had very light steering, never owned such a big truck. Took it for a steering stabilizer install and found out the steering gear is bad. It's on backorder! and the repair with an idler arm will now cost me $3k! out of warranty.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +4

      @@mfstr yikes. Thats A big expense for low miles.

    • @mfstr
      @mfstr 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@SpicerDesignsLLC Exactly!! it's a 2021.

  • @thomasmancinelli1688
    @thomasmancinelli1688 8 месяцев назад +3

    I bought a 2023 3.0, I love the truck, switched to a KN cold air intake, and the truck has a better sound to it, although I have not worked the truck the same as you.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  8 месяцев назад +2

      I would like to get a LZ0. Theyre supposed to be better. I did finally figure out whats wrong with my truck. Kind of a crazy story but it will be in an upcoming video.

  • @patrickjansen6541
    @patrickjansen6541 10 месяцев назад +3

    Lots of prone to problems 2020 to 2022 .... 2023 fixed a lot of problems... thank god

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  10 месяцев назад +3

      I did make a follow up video too. Did a towing test. Ive heard the LZO still has oil consumption when towing. Hopefully not.

  • @alaska1girls
    @alaska1girls 11 месяцев назад +4

    Ok, watching this for the second time. I just think some of the criticisms here have too many variables. Lets talk DEF, like for example DEF is sold at many different retailers and at the pump here locally so price COULD be lower. Then if you tune or delete you've opened a whole universe of increased fuel mileage and no DEF purchase. Of course you have to factor the cost of the tune or delete. Lifespan and maintenance vs the gas motor? You don't have to buy that oil just those specs. Fuel cost, the cost of diesel widely swings thus we cant go with the hard $4.50? It was below $4 this last spring and summer till recently. Mildly curious on your thought on the second generation now in the 23's, still the same?

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +5

      I agree. Looking back at that video I didnt do the greatest job comparing it to the gas because of all the different options for these trucks and motors. The video was supposed to be about my experience with my LM2 which i wasnt as clear as i should have been. Def is definitely cheaper at the pump if thats an option for people. For me its not. Nothing close to where i live. My main issue is with the oil consumption and towing. Its going into the shop this Thursday. Through a code for a glow plug now. Im not giving up on it yet. I do believe the LzO is a way better motor. I would love to swap it with one of them. As far as a tune and delete, They are pricey and with the 5 year 100k warranty on these motors, i would hate to void that.

    • @alaska1girls
      @alaska1girls 11 месяцев назад +3

      yeah i'm just purchasing a 2020, and it has one year on the warranty and then off to a performance shop. Like you id love to swap, for the LZO but ill have to make due, the cost of a new truck, insane. @@SpicerDesignsLLC

  • @Garciaxxvi
    @Garciaxxvi 11 месяцев назад +4

    I travel all around the country for work, and i love my 3.0 Duramax, i accepted that it eats def and the occasional Oil from the start, but still a great working truck, tows anything i need it to, and drives smooths!

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +4

      Glad to hear your having a good experience with your truck. I joke a lot but i dont think theyre all bad. Fuel milage is good. My issues are mostly when i tow. Other than that its does pretty good. Thanks for the comment!

  • @JakeNowak-cy9wz
    @JakeNowak-cy9wz 11 месяцев назад +4

    I know I'm late to this party. But I have a 2020 GMC Sierra with the 3.0. I don't burn any oil thankfully. And DEF is available on the pump by me at the local truck stops. So that pump DEF runs around $3.50 a gallon my last fill up but mine lasts nearly 2400 miles typically for me. The GMC Sierra doesn't do as well on the highway as the Chevy Silverado does. It's less slick but looks better imo. I get around 29 mpg if I'm on the highway but my combined mileage per 640 mile tank of fuel is 24-25mpg. Obviously it uses more DEF and fuel if I'm towing, but that's not very often for me. I'm pretty sure you've gathered that there is something up with your engine. Sorry you got a dud.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +4

      Thanks for the info. Glad your liking your truck. I just made a 1300 mile trip with a trailer. Burned a lot of oil. Ill have that video up in the next week or so. I agree i have a dud

  • @user-yj7gr7cb8f
    @user-yj7gr7cb8f 4 месяца назад +2

    This issue remained a mystery for a long time. GM has since resolved it with service bulletin 22-NA-027. Engines produced before a specific date leak oil into the combustion chamber, which causes a sharp increase in both oil and DEF consumption. The good news is that the service bulletin fully resolves this issue. I own one also and have no measurable oil consumption between oil changes. With this resolved, it is an awesome little engine.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  4 месяца назад +1

      I actually posted a video on that bulletin a couple months ago. The truck is now repaired. That video has a lot of views and a lot of people having the same issue.

  • @jw8578
    @jw8578 Год назад +10

    With the 5.3 all you need to worry about is putting gas in it.... oh and not bending pushrods.
    I haven't heard about this much oil consumption but it is expensive. And you will use def towing.

  • @3.0dmax
    @3.0dmax Год назад +5

    I have a 2020 LM2 and love it. Mine does not have the crank/no-start issues either. And I like that it's quiet yet still has enough clackity clack diesel noise to satisfy me. The neighbors will not tolerate the sound of a jet engine from a turbo at 5am. The only real complaint I have with my truck is that the seats are not very comfortable. And a minor annoyance is a leaf spring clunk.
    I easily get 7-8k on a tank of DEF. It's much cheaper at truck stops. Just pull around to the rig lanes and fill up there. Easy for me to say though since I have multiple Love's, Pilot's, etc near me. If I'm towing something, it's simple enough to buy a jug to use and then keep and refill it at a DEF pump.
    I'm about due for an oil change. Did about 1600 miles of towing about 6k lbs (i70 through the Rockies I might add, and ate ~6.5 gallons of DEF, but still got 13.5MPG). The rest is just regular unloaded daily commute. Checked oil the other day and it's about half way down from full but still in the hash marks so within normal safe operating range. If yours is truly eating a quart every 500 miles, that's way way not normal. That's even far beyond normal for a new one off the lot. The 3.0's when new do consume a bit of oil before the rings are finally seated. GM adds an extra quart at the factory because of it. 1/2qt or so by the 2nd or 3rd oil change is typical. Needless to say, something with yours isn't right. I don't blame you wanting to get rid of it. Good luck.

    • @Gabassteam
      @Gabassteam Год назад +2

      Yeah they need to make the seats a little thicker . Like sitting on a wooden chair .

  • @craigtolliver4577
    @craigtolliver4577 8 месяцев назад +2

    Love my duramax 3.0. 5.3 and 3.0 were the same price when I bought mine. It hasn't used any noticeable oil in between oil changes. Also 2.5 gallons of def in 3000 miles. Video is done well and funny. I think you sould buy a 2023 or newer and give it a chance. I also did a break in oil change. Maybe that helped with oil consumption. Also towing in video is misleading. Max tow package is like 13000 for 3.0 duramax. Sounds like you got a lemon

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  8 месяцев назад +1

      The max tow before 2022 was 9300lbs which is what i have. Yes the new ones are 13300lbs. The LZ0 is definitely a better motor. Gm finally figured out what the issue with my truck is. Going to have an update once fixed.

  • @sterlingparkway
    @sterlingparkway 9 месяцев назад +2

    05' Toyota Matrix, 1.8L 1ZZ-FE 200,000kms. Uses no oil. Regular maintenance stuff. and I replaced the factory battery at year 2018. [ouch] Like, $130.00 Did some reading on the 3.0L Duro and there are a few major issues with it. I do not like the belt driven oil pump, not at all. Who designs stuff like that? Remove the CAB to change a Cam Sensor! [or was that crank sensor] Whatever. Enjoy.

  • @dereksellars
    @dereksellars Год назад +9

    Nice to know all of that. I have a Silverado with the 5.3 with 208000 miles on it and still going strong. Well taken care of, of course.

  • @itsonvideo
    @itsonvideo Год назад +3

    My 3.0 with 33k miles leaks oil like a knife wound. They just replaced the valve cover gasket. Had it a week. Brought it home. Still leaking. Awesome.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      Sorry to hear about the issues your having. Mine has 45k on it. This appears to be a sensitive subject for the 3.0 duramax lovers. Glad im not the only one. Thanks for the comment!

    • @itsonvideo
      @itsonvideo Год назад +3

      They couldn’t tell where it was leaking from. They had to put dye in the oil. I love the gas mileage. The torque….but I’m terrified of it now…..haven’t ever had a vehicle this new (2021) that leaks oil worse than an old 2002 I had. So be vigilant about that oils consumption. Might be a slow leak burning off.

  • @anthonybashore7709
    @anthonybashore7709 11 месяцев назад +7

    My experience does not match yours. I've got a 2020 LM2 that has been flawless. Best Chevy truck I've owned. I love this engine. I'm sorry your experience has been bad.

  • @chrisguillen1495
    @chrisguillen1495 Год назад +4

    There’s already delete kits and tunes. Someone recently broke the code the OS runs. They sound like mini Cummins deleted

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      I would be interested in that. Do you know where they can be bought?

    • @chrisguillen1495
      @chrisguillen1495 Год назад +3

      @@SpicerDesignsLLC not sure where you could get the hardware for the delete. Some guys have just DIYed the particle filter and welded/fabbed the def injector location and a few other spots. Company out of Canada won’t say who but they broke the code. It’s not cheap but they have the tuning part covered. Do some digging and you’ll find it.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      @@chrisguillen1495 thanks for the info Chris.

  • @Alexbuilt
    @Alexbuilt Год назад +3

    Funny all the people that dont have issues dont tow. Mine blew up before 10k miles

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +4

      Thats seems to be the pattern ive noticed in the comments. That was my main point in the video. Everyone seems to be focused on how great the milage is. Ive never bought a truck for the mpg’s. Sorry about your experience. Thanks for the comment.

  • @mr.wonderful2195
    @mr.wonderful2195 6 месяцев назад +2

    These figures you're using are not anywhere close to what I am getting with my 2024 GMC Sierra 3.0, I have 5200 miles on it so far and have only added one 2.5-gallon jug of Def and no oil. I am averaging 26.5 overall city and HYW. will HYW mileage of 30+. After having the GM V-8 gas engine and paying to have the top end rebuilt because of the lifters taking out the cam, I decided to go with the Deisel this time and so far I'm very impressed with everything about it.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  6 месяцев назад +2

      Glad your having a good experience. The difference is at the time of that video i had about 46k miles on mine and its a different motor. 5200 miles isnt even broken in yet. You have the LZ0 and you have the LM2. I also had a defective part on my engine causing excessive oil and def consumption which has since been resolved. I just made an update video with that repair. The 3.0 is a nice motor. I just had a defect which is covered in a service bulletin.

  • @michaelr8426
    @michaelr8426 10 месяцев назад +7

    Had none of the oil problems that you did. I think you got a bad engine

  • @indycharlie
    @indycharlie 11 месяцев назад +4

    Here is what this Hoosier has to say about that 3.0 ... F that !!

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +5

      Just took a 1200 mile trip hauling a mini excavator 600 miles of it. Burned almost 2 quarts. Just took it to chevy. They didnt care. They want me to bring it in every 1000 miles. Only if they service it though.

    • @indycharlie
      @indycharlie 11 месяцев назад +4

      Sad what has happened to GM . I actually hit your channel by searching the 3.0's reliability . There are a few others on YT who have this problem also . I was considering it , but not anymore . Stay safe out there ... @@SpicerDesignsLLC

    • @indycharlie
      @indycharlie 11 месяцев назад +4

      Because having to throw in 8 quarts of oil between 5,000 mile oil changes is so F'n reasonable . Almost $100 extra dollars .. nope !

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +5

      @@indycharlie well the Lz0 is supposed to be better. I dont know what to do anymore.

    • @indycharlie
      @indycharlie 11 месяцев назад +4

      I don't have the need to tow as you . I am seriously considering a Titan . Staying GM , I don't know either . BTW . Your daughter is stupid cute ! Go BIG RED ! @@SpicerDesignsLLC

  • @user-yk5oq7of2o
    @user-yk5oq7of2o 11 месяцев назад +9

    Delete it won’t have no more problems

  • @bobkrueger194
    @bobkrueger194 24 дня назад +1

    My 3.0L durmax is flawless. I tow a 6000 lb camper and it does everything right. Mine uses zero oil. I get 16 pulling and 33 on the open highway. DEF can be found anywhere for less than $20. Oil is $6 per quart at Rock Auto. Max torque is had right off idle making this thing superior to the 5.3 in every way. I'll never own another gasser.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  24 дня назад +1

      @@bobkrueger194 glad its working out for you. I posted a video with the service bulletin causing the oil consumption. Lots of people having the same issue. Hope yours continues to work out. I just paid $14 a wt for amsoil.

  • @user-ko1hf2dt3m
    @user-ko1hf2dt3m 6 месяцев назад +2

    The 3.0 is not for everyone but I own one and tow regularly. 6000lbs. I use 1 quart of oil in 5000 miles and a 2.5 gallon jug in that amount of miles. May or may not do this engine again but that’s because I may go to a 3/4 ton next and for delete purposes. But I will say you got a bad engine. No way you should use a quart for 500 miles in towing and the DEF consumption you state. I would sell it too…

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  6 месяцев назад +1

      I recently posted a video with the fix. It had a defective part. Still testing to verify the consumption issues are gone

  • @anthonyd7581
    @anthonyd7581 8 месяцев назад +4

    GM claims in their service bulletin that 1 quart of oil per 1000 miles is acceptable. Well not to me, i was really looking at closing the deal on one until i saw this. My 2001 GMC with 324,000 doesn't even burn this much oil.
    The oil is either:
    1.Burning off
    2.leaking
    3.Blowing past the piston rings
    4.Getting sucked into the Combustion chamber through other means.
    I have a feeling GM knows the cause, but the fix is expensive and detremental to their already flailing reputation.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  8 месяцев назад +3

      I actually had a service manager reach out from the east coast. There is a service bulletin that know one was familiar with. He found it because the internal leak took out #2 glow plug. Its a 13 hour job to repair under warranty. Waiting on the part to come in now and its getting fixed. I have another follow up video for this one but i will have one about the repair as well. It is rare so dont base your decision off my experience with my truck. I have the original 3.0 too.

  • @Georgia4Low
    @Georgia4Low 11 месяцев назад +5

    We have a 2022 Yukon 4x4 with the 3.0L Duramax and it's flawless, no noticeable oil consumption, power and torque are great, and MGP is crazy good, upper 20's and low 30's for most of our driving. We buy DEF at the pump at our local gas station and it's the only way we buy DEF because those jugs do suck (DEF is cheaper at the pump as well). Oil is hard to find in stores so I just order the AC Deco oil change kit online. Plus we get about 5k miles out of a tank of DEF. Where's the update video? Would like to see what your warranty/dealer has done to repair the truck. Wouldn't think "oil burn related" but those 35" tires are going to hurt the overall perform of the truck. Final drive line ratio, trans ratio's etc. are all designed around the stock tires. Yes the 10 speed trans has lots of band width to operate in but...

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +5

      Ya def is cheaper at the pump. Unfortunately i dont have that option near me. Truck is going in this thursday. Threw a code for a glow plug too. My issues are mostly when im towing. Consumes a lot of oil. The tires are 33’s. Glad your having a good experience with yours. I havent givin up on mine yet.

    • @arthurhughes2348
      @arthurhughes2348 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@SpicerDesignsLLC got it, those 33's looked bigger in the video. awaiting for an update video, hope they can fix the oil burn issue.

  • @michaellong6002
    @michaellong6002 Год назад +2

    I just purchased the 2007 2500HD duramax diesel...pre- emissions......I m very happy....NO DEF or enviro shit.

  • @Lefishn
    @Lefishn Год назад +3

    Bunch of brands who make DexosD oil in 0W20

    • @Lefishn
      @Lefishn Год назад

      ACDelco Light Duty DieselGeneral Motorsdexos™D0W-20DD0751IA015Castrol EDGE 0W-20 Turbo DieselCastrol Ltd.dexos™D0W-20DD55BCCI082Mobil 1 ESP X2ExxonMobil Oil Corporationdexos™D0W-20DD40BCCB015Mobil FF DD (factory fill)ExxonMobil Oil Corp.dexos™D0W-20DD0810IC015MOBIL SUPER 3000 OVExxonMobil Oil Corporationdexos™D0W-20DD25BBBK015Mobil Super 3000 XE2ExxonMobil Oil Corp.dexos™D0W-20DD0752IA015RAVENOL LDD SAE 0W-20Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbHdexos™D0W-20DD25BACI081REPSOL MASTER ECO M 0W20REPSOL LUBRICANTES Y ESPECIALIDADES S.Adexos™D0W-20DD25BADE102Service ProAssociation of Independent Oil Distributors (AIOD)dexos™D0W-20DD25BABJ028Silver StateColorado Petroleum Products Co.dexos™D0W-20DD25BBDL050Valvoline SynPower MST FE C6 0W-20Valvoline, Inc.dexos™D0W-20DD25BADB103

  • @AJ12-76
    @AJ12-76 Год назад +3

    GM sucks! That’s normal operation

  • @offgridliving4128
    @offgridliving4128 8 месяцев назад +3

    I own the 2.8l pile of shit. It don’t seam to use oil but can’t drive it 10k without the check engine light coming on. Just turned 50k and it’s back on. Has spent months at the dealer.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  8 месяцев назад +2

      Sorry to hear that. Not familiar with that motor. I finally figured out whats wrong with mine. Ill have an update video coming sometime. Waiting for parts.

    • @offgridliving4128
      @offgridliving4128 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@SpicerDesignsLLC 2.8 is the crap pile in the Colorado Duramax diesel. So many problems the last year was 2022.

  • @PastarocketS-sb7nk
    @PastarocketS-sb7nk 10 месяцев назад +3

    I have a 2021 Silverado 1500 LTZ with a 3.0 Duramax turbo diesel. It has 31,000 miles on it. I have heard all the stories about this engine burning oil. It got me worried. So, I check the oil level often. Oil level is ALWAYS sitting on the full line. I use PPE oil filters and Amsoil 0-20W oil. For DEF fluid, I buy it @ Bucee's gas stations for $9.98 per 2.5 gallon container. Maybe the engine in your truck is a lemon. Being that its a mechanical component, it happens sometimes.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  10 месяцев назад +3

      Great info! Ya i think my engine is definitely jacked up

    • @PastarocketS-sb7nk
      @PastarocketS-sb7nk 10 месяцев назад +3

      @SpicerDesignsLLC I feel your pain, my dude. I know perfectly well what it feels like to work your ass off to buy something new and then find out it has issues, and it has nothing to do with anything you've done. Hopefully, you can find a solution. Sooner than later. 👍✌️

  • @bobforsyth2179
    @bobforsyth2179 Месяц назад +3

    I’m only here for the tank tops.

  • @anthonyray773
    @anthonyray773 11 месяцев назад +5

    If you have this issue with burning oil, The truck has a 100,000-power train warranty. I would take it to the dealer and let the dealership and GM figure it out. If they can't then it will be replaced with a new motor. Plus, you said you got this truck used with 35K on it. Did you think of the person who owned it before you did not take care of it and drove it like a nut case. Was it owned by a company who trades them in every 35k and did not care about it because it would get replaced. Or was it a truck leased by the dealership? Lots of questions.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +4

      Im actually taking it to the dealer today. Threw a code for one of the glow plugs. Previous owner could have abused it. Hard to say. I bought it from a dealer. I wish they would swap it out with the lzo.

  • @russellallen9648
    @russellallen9648 Год назад +3

    Water and cow piss...

  • @2mo2time
    @2mo2time Год назад +3

    Sounds like you bough a hyundai truck not a chevy. Check your badges bro could have hyundai emblem underneath that chevy badge.... lol
    In a serious note thanks for the info sad chevy has gone down so far

  • @phatboii0707
    @phatboii0707 11 месяцев назад +3

    Got the 23 Yukon 3.0 … no problems here. GM does say you’ll be burning 1qt of oil when towing per 1000 miles or something like that. It’s normal so watch your def and oil when towing heavy

  • @robertgiguere7137
    @robertgiguere7137 Год назад +3

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  • @mr.redneck2715
    @mr.redneck2715 10 месяцев назад +4

    I absolutely love mine!!!! The dealer does my oil change for $66.00 and they top off the def. I never had to add oil between changes.

  • @LB7forlife
    @LB7forlife Год назад +3

    Go Back to the 04 Duramax, you can't go Wrong!! Ant Def Diesel is going to be a $$$$ Pit!!!

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      I do wish i would have kept that truck. Was a ton of fun

  • @eduardocamacho1536
    @eduardocamacho1536 Год назад +3

    6.2 💨💨💨 babymax 😂😂😂

  • @J_D_Rambro
    @J_D_Rambro Год назад +5

    Outstanding video, funny as hell (instant subscribe) and informative. I just bought the GMC Sierra 1500 duramax, I drove 200 miles on a qtr tank of gas (montana winds helped with 100 of those miles) I'll keep extra oil and def and hope I love it down the road as much as I do now.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +4

      Glad you enjoyed. They arent bad engines, ive just had a bad experience with mine. Mostly with towing. Thanks for the comment!

  • @earthbreaker
    @earthbreaker 8 месяцев назад +3

    Heres my thoughts.. Doesn't matter what you buy for a chevy engine.. Diesel may go through oil. But also my 2018 5.3 with 80xxx miles burns oil. And that is due to the crappy afm setup. On mine the rings on the cylinders for cylinder deactivation, carboned up and then you have oil blowby.. So my 5.3 is going through a quart of oil every 2000-3000 miles. Only way around it is to buy a delete afm kit. Which is different lifters and stuff. Others have had issues with the springs on the lifters sticking and allowing oil blow out the tailpipe.

  • @bat__bat
    @bat__bat Год назад +3

    Pretty funny. U said you have an 04 Duramax truck. That certainly spoiled you bc it doesn't have def or any sort of nonsense device. Not sure why the towing is 2k lbs higher on the gas truck 🤔 No change to suspension or axle, or wheels? Hmm. Yea that's kinda weird, mostly because we all know the diesel CAN pull 11,500 lbs and even well more than that without much of an issue. Still, for the cost of that new 3.0 truck you could customize your LB7 Duramax truck to haul 35000 lbs. even single rear wheel. And you'd have money leftover to buy another older Duramax truck and upgrade that one too. AND have some leftover money for a smaller car, 4dr, 4cyl cheap everyday driver for the family to use like a Camry or accord. AND some leftover money for beer.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      Haha all good points. I did sell that 04 duramax. Loved that truck. There are different tow capacities for the 3.0 duramax. Mine is 9500 but i believe they have a max tow of like 13500 now. There not bad motors. They eat def when you tow heavy and mine burns a ton of oil. Which dips into my beer money.

  • @michaelsell6928
    @michaelsell6928 Год назад +3

    There is no way that is normal oil consumption.

  • @rubenmanitowabi
    @rubenmanitowabi Год назад +5

    I had a 6.2 At4 piece of garbage bought 3.0 lz0 AT4 was 1500$ less than a new 6.2 love my new duramax

  • @markpontes4457
    @markpontes4457 10 месяцев назад +4

    Apparently the LM0 Version still has the DEF usage and oil burning problems see Pickup truck and SUV talks videos. I think the problem is that stupid thin Oil!

  • @jimlong4259
    @jimlong4259 Год назад +9

    Let's see, my 2023, which just hit 1,000 miles is routinely giving me 33 mpg. (I drive like an old fart). The best part is I can tow my 5,500lb travel trailer and still get 16mpg. (2x what my F250 averaged). The oil change kit on Amazon is $81 for 7 Qts ACDelco DexosD and P066 filter. My 3.0 was a $995 upgrade, not a $2,500 one. The 6.2L gas was a 2,500 upgrade, now it's 4K ($3,890) to get one of those thirsty babies in a Silverado. Speaking of thirst, what's the MPG on the 5.3. Gas Today - (Circle K 4.79 for regular - Costco, 4.14 for Diesel) Hmmm.....

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +4

      Where are you located Jim? Rare to see gas higher than diesel. Especially $0.65 higher.

    • @mudslutmusic9052
      @mudslutmusic9052 Год назад +2

      I’ve seen gas higher than diesel in Ohio

    • @Trucker89dude
      @Trucker89dude Год назад +2

      Here in North Port, FL reg gas is $3.35 and diesel $3.38 at circle K

    • @blake5089
      @blake5089 Год назад +2

      Western Canada diesel is much cheaper than gasoline in the summer

  • @jackofall2305
    @jackofall2305 7 месяцев назад +2

    I bought the wife a suburban, really wanted the 3.0 but they are impossible to find, and I couldn't wait 6 months for one

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  7 месяцев назад +1

      The LZ0 is a much better motor. Finally got my oil consumption issue resolved. Update video coming soon

  • @pashafaith3639
    @pashafaith3639 11 месяцев назад +4

    I bought a 5.3 liter with NO DFM, so I would say it’s the best engine in terms of price and overall functionality. If it was with AFM/DFM I would not buy it. But 5.3 liter without DFM is the best in my opinion. I bought it brand new back in December of 2022.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +5

      I agree. Its seems like that motor went downhill with the fuel management systems. I know there programmers you can get to disable them. Pretty sure.

  • @marquiserobinson895
    @marquiserobinson895 Год назад +3

    I change my oil every 5k and always top off my def then. Never had to do it any sooner. However I dont tow very much either. I brought this truck for one reason and one reason only MPG’s. So far nothing beats it

  • @bigboie5574
    @bigboie5574 Год назад +3

    When I first got my truck with the 3.0 duramax i noticed it was loosing oil long story short the oil filters on these trucks have to be tighten really hard or they will get loose because of the vibration of the diesel engine after I did the oil change and put on the new filter I cranked on it with both hands and haven’t had an issue since.. best purchase ever in my opinion

  • @fireflyraven2760
    @fireflyraven2760 Год назад +3

    He said no no to deleted buddy you are to late on that if anything you just mad a bunch of people curious about that

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      If they have a delete and tune for it, well thats a game changer. Ill get this oil situation figured out and keep the damn thing. Have you heard of any available?

    • @fireflyraven2760
      @fireflyraven2760 Год назад +3

      @@SpicerDesignsLLC first what year is the truck and I would also check your state for emission checks

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      @@fireflyraven2760 its a 2020. Used to have emissions but we moved and no longer have to worry about it.

    • @fireflyraven2760
      @fireflyraven2760 Год назад +3

      @@SpicerDesignsLLC their are delete kits for the 3.0l Duramax of.that year they are still working on getting ones for 2022 and 2023 duramax's since gm did not tinkering with the E.C.M I would look up some good tuners it should not take much work I believe gm went with the inline 6 for the 3.0 Duramax

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      @@fireflyraven2760 ya it is the inline 6. I would love to get some info on that.

  • @nabatron21
    @nabatron21 Год назад +6

    I don’t get how diesel is more expensive then gas in the states. Up here in Canada diesel is pretty much on par with regular or cheaper in my area of Canada

    • @076084726
      @076084726 6 месяцев назад +1

      Joe Biden that’s why

  • @JohnAvantiBK
    @JohnAvantiBK 7 месяцев назад +2

    You cant blame GM for the emisions that plague diesel engines. Blame the EPA and its effort to fight global warming... LOL at the tune of $5,000,000,000 a year in US carbon tax.

  • @baggedmonster
    @baggedmonster Год назад +5

    If you read the owners manual you will find that the first 5k miles it consumes oil as part of the break in process

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      Truck had 45000 when i moved and made that video after all the towing. Its definitely broke in. Thanks for that info though. Good to know.

  • @waynecrider9460
    @waynecrider9460 7 месяцев назад +2

    You got a lemon, your math ain’t right either. Hell i did 370 miles trip for 45$that’s about $3 def fluid so $48@ 30.9mpg. I’d trade it because yours is bad. Mine sounds good and will tow 13k lbs. that’s why you shouldn’t get stuff right when it comes out.i did that in 1990 on a blazer and it sucked

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  7 месяцев назад +1

      It just got out of the shop. They finally found the issue with the oil consumption. Videos coming soon. My math based off of my truck considering the issues. def use is more on mine because of the oil. I cant speak for anyone elses truck

  • @woodyhinson6527
    @woodyhinson6527 10 месяцев назад +3

    Sorry you don’t like the 3.0 Duramax I have a 2021 and love it!!! It’s drops about 1qt of oil between changes! The dealer services it every 7000 miles! It gets about 24mpg around home 30MPG on the road and 17mpg pulling a trailer!!! It uses about 1.5 tanks of Def every oil change!!! And I buy my def bulk at the station. I filled it up Monday and it took $12.50 to top it off at buc-ee’s took 3.802 gallons. $3.299 per gallon

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  10 месяцев назад +4

      I dont dislike it. I think i just have a bad motor. Glad your having better luck with yours.

  • @BigBlueRacing
    @BigBlueRacing Год назад +3

    What lift is on there

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      Just a 2” rough country. 1.5” in the back. Just wanted enough for the tires to clear. I have a video of when I installed that lift. I give all the info in the description I believe.

    • @BigBlueRacing
      @BigBlueRacing Год назад +3

      @@SpicerDesignsLLC ok thanks I am going to order one of these. Can’t beat the towing with the max tow package 13,000lbs.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      @@BigBlueRacing the new LZ0 is a much better motor than the one i have. They arent a bad option. Ill have a follow up video in the next week or so.

  • @federal6616
    @federal6616 10 месяцев назад +3

    Check the dip on those on the lot > seem to be all over filled. Supposedly this is to seal some rings during the first oil run and seals don't seat until 5k break in

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  10 месяцев назад +3

      Ya ive read that they add an extra quart for break in. Mine has over 50k so its beyond broke in. I dont understand how engines 2020 or later consume that much oil in a truck that costs $55k - $80k.

    • @federal6616
      @federal6616 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@SpicerDesignsLLC ok. I checked 3 gmc types a week ago and got spooked by that. I'll wait a bit longer.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  10 месяцев назад +2

      @@federal6616 i think im just going to get a 24 with the 5.3 and max tow package. Ive heard if you deactivate the AFM it will basically eliminate the lifter issues.

    • @federal6616
      @federal6616 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@SpicerDesignsLLC Yea. I think there are some 23s floating out there without it. I like the idea of the diesel, but if it can't keep a fuel pump and some belt in the rear of the engine beyond 100k - I'm skeptical of the build

  • @Velislide
    @Velislide 7 месяцев назад +2

    I have about 94,000 on my 2020 LM2. No noticeable oil lost between changes. Great MPG, over 30 @ 70 MPH. Just towed an Escalade 160 miles, with another engine in the bed of my truck, and averaged 19.7 MPG. Towed it on a flat bed U-Haul trailer.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  7 месяцев назад +1

      Im glad your not having any issues. They actually found the problem. Theres a service bulletin with a defective part and i have it. Ill have an update video soon.

  • @comndo95231
    @comndo95231 11 месяцев назад +4

    The 1/2 ton diesel market is a niche market. Definitely not for everyone. I own a 21 Ram eco diesel. (Previously had a 2017). Love them both. I got it specifically because of the high fuel mileage and how much I drive (80 mph I get 27 to 32mpg and now that it’s broken in at 65 to 70mph I see quite often 40 to 45. Although now that diesel jumped almost to 6.79 here in Northern Ca and gas is 5.29 the advantage over the mileage has almost disappeared. Gassers I was wearing them out to quick and going into the higher elevations here on the west coast the nice thing about the turbo diesels is no altitude sickness. My friend has the gas version of the same pickup so as you can imagine we talk crap. If I tow the toy hauler which is at the limit for the 1/2 ton it’s definitely slower but the reality is it gets towed more often with a 3/4 ton diesel.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +5

      I agree. I do like the idea of a diesel in a half to. I have been towing more and traveling more and the diesel seems to be a good option. I havent given up on mine yet. I think i just got a dud. Id like to get into the LZO. Supposed to be a much better motor. Thanks for the comment.

    • @comndo95231
      @comndo95231 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@SpicerDesignsLLC I like your content. It right in line with the stuff I do. I started out with the original Crossfire during their launch and tomorrow I have an XR showing up at my shop.

  • @zackbridgman
    @zackbridgman Год назад +3

    New LZO motor has all new hp torque specs. I have this truck. Seems like their are some lemons out there. But I would not buy for the fuel economy alone more so for a balance of towing fuel and power. The 5.3 is worthless for pulling owned for years. It also burned oil when pulling. Bout a quart a month.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +3

      Ya i wish i had the new LZ0. Sounds like a better motor. I haven’t given up on it yet. Ill have another video with some updates and upgrades coming soon.

  • @laytunes1376
    @laytunes1376 10 месяцев назад +3

    All trucks using 20wt oil will drink oil. but it was silly of them to use it in a diesel IMO (clearly done to squeeze another .2 mpg). I have the ford 3.0 diesel, and it doesn't drink a lick of oil, but I can run 5w40 on that engine. I'm sure if you could do that here it would solve the issue, but alas it's not approved.

  • @lynnwhite1901
    @lynnwhite1901 Год назад +4

    My 3.0 had issues with deaf made it sludge the oil and the engine messed up then GM refuse to warrant the repairs costing me over $12,000 . I feel the company give me a good screwing !!

  • @joedfazio
    @joedfazio Год назад +2

    Entertaining video but I see some issues with the math. Walmart DEF is $10 for 2.5 gallons, why buy the expensive stuff? My real world mpg is 24 around town and 28 highway and the engine uses 1 quart of oil between oil changes and 10 gallons of DEF every 5,0000 miles. One quart every 500 miles? Sounds like there is a problem with your engine.

  • @janzibrik3551
    @janzibrik3551 10 месяцев назад +3

    So my semi Freightliner with 14L Detroit dd15 is not consuming any oil between oil changes every 25000 mls. If it does no trucking company will buy a truck with that engine. DURAMAX engine is just bad design.

  • @dtay8697
    @dtay8697 Год назад +5

    I bought a 2021 with the 3.0. It was eating 2 qts of oil every 1000 miles. After a year of oil consumption checks every 1000 miles they decided to change out a valve cover with a bad baffle inside. The oil eating went away and it was back to being a "good truck". But that's when the next batch of problems started. Spraying coolant out of the inter cooler, leaking oil, a particulate filter that's so clogged that it backs up exhaust smoke into the cab while driving. They have had my truck in and out of the shop coming up on 8 months now. GMC is not willing to buy my truck back.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +4

      So im not alone. Sorry your having a bad experience too. Im starting to think dodge and ford might be the smart ones for getting the hell away from the eco diesels.

    • @lonestarfishin264
      @lonestarfishin264 Год назад

      I saw your comment on another video too lol.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +1

      @@lonestarfishin264 what video?

  • @innermetalusa
    @innermetalusa 11 месяцев назад +3

    I AGREE!!!!!!! Worst truck I’ve ever own 21 Silverado 3.0 duramax and has spent 20 months in the shop for a slew of issues beginning with the long crank no start, then the reluctor wheel, cam position sensor, injectors, def tank and def pump and hoses, particulate filter and the corresponding assembly X2 and now after getting it back it has come full circle with the long crank no start. 🤬🤬🤬

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +3

      Damn. Thats a lot of issues. Sorry you had a bad experience with yours. Its a shame all these motors are so complex now. Sounds like the newer gas motors have all kinds of issues too. Maybe theyll give you a new one.

    • @natgasf7236
      @natgasf7236 11 месяцев назад +2

      And that’s why I’ve been buying Fords for the past 35 years.

  • @CT-go5ii
    @CT-go5ii Год назад +5

    Sucks to hear about your bad experience. Will I love my 3.0. I burn half a quart of oil around 4000 miles. I get my DEF at Walmart and its around 13 bucks. The only time I use alot of DEF is when towing. Another then that I hardly have to add DEF to my turck.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  Год назад +4

      Glad yours is been good for you. I haven’t checked Walmart yet . Thanks for the comment.

  • @larryvs11
    @larryvs11 8 месяцев назад +2

    Love my 2021 3.0, Doesn't use a drop of oil. On oil changes I have to order my oil from the U.S so thats not ideal. I agree on the def though , sucks it back when towing. Compared to my old 5.3 with the same type of driving the 3.0 is about 50 bucks a month cheaper than my 5.3. Not a huge difference but the towing experience is better.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  8 месяцев назад +1

      Ya def is now fun but its something we have to deal with now. I did finally find out whats wrong with my motor eating oil. Going to have an update soon.

  • @jma64930
    @jma64930 11 месяцев назад +2

    I've had and towed thousand of miles with both these motors. First off I used zero oil on trip from Texas to tennesse and back with 30ft 7000lb travel trailer and I got 13-14 miles per gallon in the deisel. I've done multiple 1000 mile round trips with the same trailer and my 5.3. I got 8-10 mpg and burned a quart every trip. Def last 7000miles without towing and 1000 miles while towing. I have 35k miles on the diesel and have never added a drop of oil. Also keep in mind that towing with the 5.3 you can only get the exploding 8sp transmission. The 10sp transmission on the diesel matched with 460 ft lb of torque makes this thing accelerate up steep tennesse hills without any effort. The 5.3 will literally overheat and need to pull over. I had to put a larger transmission cooler to make it through the bland hill country in texas while towing. Your oil consumption is not normal, I have 3 relatives with this same truck and none of us have had this issues, and 1200 miles while not towing for Def is off too. This is by far the best truck I've owned 2500 or 1500 for my needs and I love the 27mpg I get with regular highway use with big atkos

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +3

      Glad youve had a good experience with yours. Unfortunately i have not. Im not the only one either. I don’t disagree that the 3.0 is a better motor. Especially for towing. I would much rather have the LZ0. Mine is going into the shop tomorrow for a glow plug fault code and to look at the oil consumption. Everyone in the comments has different numbers so its hard to say whos are correct. Just varies with driving situations. Thanks for the comment and info. Ill have a follow up soon when it gets out of the shop.

    • @jma64930
      @jma64930 11 месяцев назад +2

      @SpicerDesignsLLC I hadn't oil drip for about 3 months that it went in and out of the shop for...it was frustrating but it turned out to be a unsealed block plug above the front crank case cover. I was pretty passed but it's the only issue I've had in 35k...only enough mine is louder than both my cousins, 1 lm2 and 1 lzo. Theirs sound like cars....mine has a little deisel clatter.

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  11 месяцев назад +4

      @@jma64930 i feel like mine has a little more clatter as i put miles on it. Which ive heard it will. I thought about getting an intake. Supposed to give it some more sound as well. I have no oil residue anywhere. Its burning it somehow. About a quart every 1500 miles with no trailer. Not normal. Hopefully they can resolve it

    • @jma64930
      @jma64930 11 месяцев назад +2

      @SpicerDesignsLLC I thought about an naked fora little whistle but I'm good. Bummer about the pil...definitely not normal. Be sure the stealership is reporting this to gm and not just brushing you off. Ask them for the region gm reps info and contact them yourself. I did this when I had a tundra tyranny go out at 68000k years ago.

  • @AADmrstangerbanger
    @AADmrstangerbanger 8 месяцев назад +2

    My 2024 3.0 is AMAZING!! I love this truck. First time I have owned a diesel, and I got it because the gas mileage and trade in value and long-term reliability. Mine doesn't burn oil at all and I get 500 to 600 miles a tank and have to put Def in every 4 or 5 full tanks. Plus it's 100,000 mile warranty from GM. Win win. P.S I don't tow much thou. Great video

    • @SpicerDesignsLLC
      @SpicerDesignsLLC  8 месяцев назад +2

      I made a follow up video about the oil consumption too. The LZ0 is supposed to be pretty nice. Congrats on your purchase. Hopefully they worked out all the kinks.

  • @ryan05753
    @ryan05753 Год назад +2

    Unfortunately there’s no replacement for the big C. Ow-20 is what my wife civic type r runs