😂 the gov owns how many isp's, the isp's have contracts with 3rd parties to serve ad's, the TOS agreements on almost every ONLINE service has fine print about data collection via ad's....
Apple just quietly matched a Graphene OS feature. [edit: "matched" one feature on the tin, so that improves security for the masses. It does not surpass GrapheneOS. Every time iOS imitates GrapheneOS, that is a win.]
@@lyfandeth You travel for the weekend without your phone and/or without using it the entire time? If so, merely having to enter your passcode before continuing to use it is hardly a big deal.
I wish that Siri had the ability to restart your phone with a spoken passphrase and return it to a before first user-login state. That way, you wouldn't need to have your phone in your hand, and as long as you were in range of the microphone, it would restart at your command with that passphrase.
At 2:10 when you say you search yourself to check what they missed, do you mean you just open source google search yourself to check name, number, address etc and see what’s still on the internet ? Or do you use a specific other data site ?
I've used Michael Bazzell's workbook to verify that my data is gone, plus his tools available on his website, plus my own general searches across a variety of search engines and terms. -N
16:30 This law seems useless because of the provision "Deemed Authorized" While companies do have dedicated pen testers they dont always want independent security researchers revealing problems with software if all they need to do do is say Firm X is unauthorized to bring about criminal charges than this does nothing to protect independent security and white hats
I have a question about AFU/BFU on IOS. If you press your volume and power buttons this disables Face ID. Does this also return the phone to BFU state?
Im not an expert but you can try the example he gave to test it. And like the name states: “before first unlock”, it probably is not bfu as it is not the first time and for it to be first time and be encrypted, the phone needs to be rebooted. And the reason why it disables face id is most likely an extra security measure. Who does not want extra security.
Almost certain you have to power-off the phone to put it back into encrypted mode. That being said, the mode you mention disallows biometric authentication, which is still a pretty big deal. The Supreme Court has ruled that forcing the use of biometric data to unlock digital devices is not a necessarily a 4th or 5th amendment violation. However, your pin does not need to be divulged absent a court order. So, at a minimum, get that phone to the power-off screen, even if you’re not fast enough to get it to power-off, if you feel the police may want to seize data from your phone without your consent.
iOS is still much more secure than Graphene because of the tight integration of hardware and software that’s not possible with an Android ROM. Also, there is a way to wipe data after 10 failed passcode attempts which is similar and a way to remotely wipe the device via Find My so I’m not quite sure what your point here is.
When either the Apple 15 or 16 series is set up properly, and also operated properly - the content on that device is entirely secure. But it also helps to do a “swipe lockdown” of the device whenever possible. Any content shared between those two types of iPhones is also entirely secure, if both devices are set up properly. Items shared to the iCloud are also entirely secure. Here is where they can get you… Phone call shared information is not secure at the carrier level. In other words, every number that you have ever dialed can easily be discovered. Text numbers can also be discovered, but the data cannot. Anytime the data leaves the Apple system to any android device it can also be intercepted.
Just gonna comment with my voice keyboard. The way that BFU works is that when you enter your password the first time, it loads it into system memory. And because it's memory, random access memory, when you reboot the device, it's cleared.
They probably don't even know. Requesting a company delete your info won't always result in a response and they send those requests to supposedly a large amount of companies
THE BIGGER QUESTION IS WHY NO ONE IMPLEMENTS A PANIC CODE. Even the Garmin GPS from the 90's had a special panic code. Press 3 spots while booting, and the entire device wiped all data. So if you were under duress, you could wipe it all. Professional alarm systems will silently send a 911 call if the wrong disarm passcode is entered. So why can't my cell phone wipe itself, if I enter a wipe code? Or the wrong pass code is entered 3? 5? times? WHY NOT GIVE US LOCK AND WIPE CODES?
72 hours is better than the week it was before but it should be a shorter time. I have noticed a text from a contact that appeared on my lock screen before unlocking and that was just a phone number and not the contact name
For 3 years I used my iPad as a WiFi hotspot for my security cameras (I live off grid in middle of AK) Would have my screen never turn off as the hotspot automatically disconnects after few hours if screen is locked. It worked but if I didn’t touch it or went out of town for more than 2-4 days every time I got home the iPad had rebooted and showed the password must be entered message. This sucked as my cameras can’t reconnect without user input on the iPad. I thought it was automatically updating behind scenes but still does it with all auto updates turned off. Has been doing this since iOS 15 and now thinking about it this sounds like a good thing with phones or if you’re worried about losing or theft etc.. just wanted to point out iPads and iPhones have been doing this for quite some time already, pretty cool info, the more you know lol!
so I wonder if this would also help if someone successfully SIM swaps you. Then this code feature might not let them get very far. Great video fellas thanks as always
Can we just get the ability to lock our apps with different passwords if we want to. Dont get me wrong i like being able to lock the apps with my face but there is vulnerability witch is if someone sees your iphone password they can still access those apps.
Unfortunately the police wanted to have my phone (I ran the beta of iOS 18 don’t know which it was though) but they couldn’t crack it. They had my phone for a work week. They finally let me open it.
I think they'd want to keep it quiet, otherwise nefarious people'll know and set a reminder to mess with the iPhone every 2 days or something. Maybe Apple should add an option for this along with different timing schemes like random or even every day.
That's irrelevant because you have to unlock the phone within the 3 days or it will reboot. If you can unlock it then you could get all data immediately and the device is useless to store anymore. Means if you steal a phone or are the police you only got 3 days to crack the phone or it's gonna reset and encrypt even harder
Great, now that you have let the cat out of the bag, the police will now change the way they do things when they seize someone’s phone and also get someone to start working on a way to defeat the security feature.
Sounds like you should turn off your phone if pulled over or going through security at the airport or wherever, that way you get that sweet before first unlock presuming they boot it up
i think apple said no more stealing data of our costmers its aigest our terms of serivce on our end bascly. also this is also bacly a old feature by the way i think ios had this all the way back in ios 13 or 14 bascly allready. also mac os x does this allready too by the way. after entering sleep mode by the way.
It makes total sense tho! You get to enjoy the benefits of using aliases, while GMail gets to track and cross-connect your activity across every alias you use.
this has been athing since forever, works on andoid as well, before you get arested TURN OFF your phone, cops cant search it, wihtou you unlocking the first time without you fist unlocking it once.
They should also make it reboot if any attempt even the slightest one will reset the device. Also make it permanently wipe ALL data and even destroy all the serial numbers and such of all parts. Have there be special fuses that blow too to make it impossible to even try bringing it back too. Some chips already have those kinds of fuses and they blow completely silently. I believe some AMD processors have them to permanently lock a chip to specific vendor of motherboard. Lenovo is known to make use of that. That kind of fuse can be implemented in such a way as to completely cut the chip off from being forced to work again. The only way would be with very special and insanely expensive machines that can probe parts of the chip itself. Such a machine would be horribly expensive too!
As long as the police have a warrant and whatever legal stuff they need, then it should be fine. Or if a warrant isn’t fine, then a court order should be. As someone said in a reply to one of my other comments on another video somewhere, they mentioned about needing to get info from a kidnapper’s phone. Then it would be very important as a life could be on the line.
One thing I always wonder about this, why are people so supportive of making crimes harder or impossible to solve? I am big on privacy, censorship and government overreach, but I don't really understand the positive this provides for anyone other than criminals. I suppose the US is about to become a rogue state so I guess from that perspective I can see why, but a normal functioning society where maybe 2% (give or take) of people get arrested (ignoring actually charged/investigated) how does this actually benefit us? Spying occurs in-transit or in other ways that don't involve direct access to a device, so what's this actually for? People that steal your (modern) phone aren't getting into it, they don't have the tools to do it - if they did we'd know. I'm happy to be told why people feel this is overall beneficial to everyone, again I support privacy and requiring law enforcement to be rigorously held to a standard.
Was on apples site just wks before but the wording made it seem different lolol. Even in beta ppl noticed this happening and asked the right places were sone were answered generally
Nothing much to talk about when it comes to your privacy and apple, SOLD TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER ! . but honestly apple is not interested in your privacy because YOU'RE the product and the data they collected about you is what they are selling. Not too mention that they'll violate your constitutional rights, like they violated my 4th amendment rights when they decided to remove 12Gb of my music library that I transfered with my imac over lightning cable. Broke into my personal files and deleted th3m
100%. Apple bad, everything else good. Funny because Apple was the little underdog engine that could for decades; Microsoft was the bad guy. And they STILL ARE the bad guy with all of those Windows 11 ads and the privacy nightmare that is Edge.
This isn't that big of a deal - all police have to do is get a warrant (or subpoena) your entire Apple account, and they can access the data anyway, especially for data backed up to iCloud.
advocate from a company that scan your device and call a police to jail you. how many idiots still believe that people who can and already done literally anything they want cares about marketing pr security bs
@@tiagotiagot It’s been an ongoing battle for years. Law enforcement has been trying to get the public behind them against Apple. They do have access to phones but it requires a court order and Apple will coordinate with them. What they want is a back door for instantaneous access which Apple refuses to provide for them. I think the FBI actually hired an Israeli firm to write software to crack the phones.
How on earth could it be a honey pot!? They aren't being so open. Rather it has come to their attention because seized iPhones kept on power in vaults which hide them from cell phone access, have been rebooting, making it, as noted, harder to crack into. This has in turn been discussed among law enforcement, and of course this sort of information leaks out into general knowledge fairly quickly.
@@alexanderSydneyOz Good point. A police department in USA lost access to an unlocked phone, while it rebooted, despite the fact being in a sort of a Faraday box, resulting in the phone locking itself down. This surprised the forensic analysit, being a new behaviour from an iPhone device, that's how this thing got to the public. It's quite recent.
@@alexanderSydneyOz Dunno, this kinda rhymes with that time they made a lot of noise about needing to get Apple to help them decrypt phones, and then suddenly mumbled "nevermind" and got quiet, while Apple beefed up their marketing focusing on privacy protections they claimed to have...
what does this even mean? unlike vague claims from police saying they can't get keys from Apple this inactivity feature can be tested. You can go test this right now. Don't be silly Mr.Fed
@@danh5637 I once thought this too, then realized: If a stranger randomly came up to you and asked to go through your phone without restrictions, would you let them?
@ difference between a random person and the police. But assuming they weren’t going to steal the device, then in the abstract if they could explain a good reason why, then I wouldn’t have a problem with it.
@@danh5637 So you'd let a random person (plain-clothes police count here) go through your phone if they can tell a convincing enough reason why? Even if it's a lie? What would those reasons be?
@@rubyreeds8931 I think I was pretty clear, that in the abstract, if there was a good reason. I don’t really care. I understand people who have things they wish to hide or they’re ashamed of may have an issue. I honestly don’t, and generally have nothing I’m ashamed or embarrassed about. I think that goes of really 99.99% of people. The only edge case I can think of is sensitive business information, like trade secrets etc.
So you would be fine with 24/7 video monitoring of the inside of your home, recording and monitoring of your calls and texts, and constant monitoring of your emails? Because you have nothing to hide? Isn’t privacy of value regardless?
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Oh, it’s definitely the “police” (government) also. I’m much more worried about them violating my privacy than nominal thieves.
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😂 the gov owns how many isp's, the isp's have contracts with 3rd parties to serve ad's, the TOS agreements on almost every ONLINE service has fine print about data collection via ad's....
Apple just quietly matched a Graphene OS feature.
[edit: "matched" one feature on the tin, so that improves security for the masses. It does not surpass GrapheneOS. Every time iOS imitates GrapheneOS, that is a win.]
Good. Now iOS can be even more monumentally secure compared to Graphene OS than it already was.
Now Apple has to match the lockout timer down to 18h by default like on GrapheneOS
@@Tr4ns1st0r GOS is comparable, in some areas even better secured than iOS. Not to mention much more privacy focused.
GOS security features stand out a mile in comparison
as long as apple is not FOSS (Free and Open Source Software), it has no chance of being as secure as graphene, or even AOSP in general.
72 hours is an eternity. I want mine locked up every 24 hours.
Yeah I would set mine to 8 but I need it to be 12 for my alarm in the morning. 72 hours is a long time.
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72 hours is a bit long. Should definitely be under 2 days. Who TF needs their phone locked and unused for more than 24 hours?
Well that’s the point dont you think?
@@faresamor7292 it could be 24 hours no reason phone to be “unlocked” after that time
Someone who is traveling for the weekend?
@@lyfandeth You travel for the weekend without your phone and/or without using it the entire time? If so, merely having to enter your passcode before continuing to use it is hardly a big deal.
I would like the delay to be user selectable. I would set my phone to around 2 hours.
I wish that Siri had the ability to restart your phone with a spoken passphrase and return it to a before first user-login state. That way, you wouldn't need to have your phone in your hand, and as long as you were in range of the microphone, it would restart at your command with that passphrase.
shout to siri "hey siri shut down my phone" and immediately say yes after
that should do exactly what you want
"Calling Mom..."
Can you not do that using shortcuts? I’m just thinking out loud here.
Just use a shortcut
So i ask siri to restart my phone and it actually gives me the option i just have to press yes. And it restarts.
At this point there has been so many data breaches, personal data monitoring should be provided to everyone for no charge.
Nice to have so much positive privacy news, thank you
At 2:10 when you say you search yourself to check what they missed, do you mean you just open source google search yourself to check name, number, address etc and see what’s still on the internet ? Or do you use a specific other data site ?
I've used Michael Bazzell's workbook to verify that my data is gone, plus his tools available on his website, plus my own general searches across a variety of search engines and terms. -N
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16:30 This law seems useless because of the provision "Deemed Authorized" While companies do have dedicated pen testers they dont always want independent security researchers revealing problems with software if all they need to do do is say Firm X is unauthorized to bring about criminal charges than this does nothing to protect independent security and white hats
I have a question about AFU/BFU on IOS. If you press your volume and power buttons this disables Face ID. Does this also return the phone to BFU state?
Im not an expert but you can try the example he gave to test it. And like the name states: “before first unlock”, it probably is not bfu as it is not the first time and for it to be first time and be encrypted, the phone needs to be rebooted. And the reason why it disables face id is most likely an extra security measure. Who does not want extra security.
@ Ah, thanks for the advice and sanity check.
Almost certain you have to power-off the phone to put it back into encrypted mode. That being said, the mode you mention disallows biometric authentication, which is still a pretty big deal. The Supreme Court has ruled that forcing the use of biometric data to unlock digital devices is not a necessarily a 4th or 5th amendment violation. However, your pin does not need to be divulged absent a court order. So, at a minimum, get that phone to the power-off screen, even if you’re not fast enough to get it to power-off, if you feel the police may want to seize data from your phone without your consent.
Does activity count as doing anything without unlocking the phone? E.g. Could an attacker simulate activity
Now Apple needs to make AFU as secure as BFU.
Is Apple still going ahead with client side scanning
you can create your own "shortcuts" automation to reboot your phone
without a confirmation popup?
"Game changing feature" That has been possible on GrapheneOS for years, alongside a duress password, for emergency data wiping and so on...
iOS is still much more secure than Graphene because of the tight integration of hardware and software that’s not possible with an Android ROM. Also, there is a way to wipe data after 10 failed passcode attempts which is similar and a way to remotely wipe the device via Find My so I’m not quite sure what your point here is.
Yeah, since Apple has its own os and other companies don’t use it, it’s easier to secure a phone compared to android.
When either the Apple 15 or 16 series is set up properly, and also operated properly - the content on that device is entirely secure. But it also helps to do a “swipe lockdown” of the device whenever possible.
Any content shared between those two types of iPhones is also entirely secure, if both devices are set up properly. Items shared to the iCloud are also entirely secure. Here is where they can get you…
Phone call shared information is not secure at the carrier level. In other words, every number that you have ever dialed can easily be discovered. Text numbers can also be discovered, but the data cannot. Anytime the data leaves the Apple system to any android device it can also be intercepted.
Just gonna comment with my voice keyboard. The way that BFU works is that when you enter your password the first time, it loads it into system memory. And because it's memory, random access memory, when you reboot the device, it's cleared.
How did you manage to fit 4 of your own ads on top of the youtube ads in one video
Really should be 12 or 24 hours. User should be able to select.
I had this feature on GrapheneOS quite a while.
I use easy opt outs, I just wish they told me what them accomplished
They probably don't even know. Requesting a company delete your info won't always result in a response and they send those requests to supposedly a large amount of companies
“The real threat here is not the Police…”
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I’m shocked that law enforcement allowed devices which were evidence to remain connected to the internet and able to update themselves. Whoops! 🤣
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated they left them on exactly because they didn’t want them to reboot.
@ I’m not saying they should have switched them off. I’m saying they should have had a 3G/4G/5G jammer or a Faraday cage.
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated or just turn off mobile data
@ if they had access sure, but can they do that when it’s already locked?
@ yeah and even if they couldn’t then just take the sim card out
In a pinch and need to lock quickly? Click the side power button 5 times quickly. You’re welcome.
Glad you guys have returned
THE BIGGER QUESTION IS WHY NO ONE IMPLEMENTS A PANIC CODE. Even the Garmin GPS from the 90's had a special panic code. Press 3 spots while booting, and the entire device wiped all data. So if you were under duress, you could wipe it all.
Professional alarm systems will silently send a 911 call if the wrong disarm passcode is entered.
So why can't my cell phone wipe itself, if I enter a wipe code? Or the wrong pass code is entered 3? 5? times?
WHY NOT GIVE US LOCK AND WIPE CODES?
You can have it wipe after 10 failed login attempts. Its in settings > Face ID & Passcode then scroll to the bottom
Does this mean at 72 h ur phone is wiped or just shut down & restart? But 72 hours is too long should be 14 or 24 hours
Just reboot, not a full reset.
72 hours is better than the week it was before but it should be a shorter time. I have noticed a text from a contact that appeared on my lock screen before unlocking and that was just a phone number and not the contact name
Mac-Cabe: This is common because YOU are chasing Jan 6 attendees stead of tracking down criminals.
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This Apple’s new feature is already active by default? Or only on Lock Down Mode?
Default.
13:18 why can’t I search by my social?
Apple is already patch in Magnet and Cellebrite
@@Revoc huh?
For 3 years I used my iPad as a WiFi hotspot for my security cameras (I live off grid in middle of AK) Would have my screen never turn off as the hotspot automatically disconnects after few hours if screen is locked. It worked but if I didn’t touch it or went out of town for more than 2-4 days every time I got home the iPad had rebooted and showed the password must be entered message. This sucked as my cameras can’t reconnect without user input on the iPad. I thought it was automatically updating behind scenes but still does it with all auto updates turned off. Has been doing this since iOS 15 and now thinking about it this sounds like a good thing with phones or if you’re worried about losing or theft etc.. just wanted to point out iPads and iPhones have been doing this for quite some time already, pretty cool info, the more you know lol!
It is for the police!
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AI in an enviroment safe enough to no not be erased completely
so I wonder if this would also help if someone successfully SIM swaps you. Then this code feature might not let them get very far. Great video fellas thanks as always
Good to see Google Play catching up years later to Apple on emails 😅
Forever that is kind of tricksy what happen if they go out of business or sell.
Can we just get the ability to lock our apps with different passwords if we want to. Dont get me wrong i like being able to lock the apps with my face but there is vulnerability witch is if someone sees your iphone password they can still access those apps.
Isnt it well known knowledge that anyone with know how can get anything thats ever been on your phone 🤔without needing your physical device
Unfortunately the police wanted to have my phone (I ran the beta of iOS 18 don’t know which it was though) but they couldn’t crack it. They had my phone for a work week. They finally let me open it.
So can I download this as an app for my iPad so I can protect myself from police using anything I say against me
I think they'd want to keep it quiet, otherwise nefarious people'll know and set a reminder to mess with the iPhone every 2 days or something. Maybe Apple should add an option for this along with different timing schemes like random or even every day.
That's irrelevant because you have to unlock the phone within the 3 days or it will reboot. If you can unlock it then you could get all data immediately and the device is useless to store anymore. Means if you steal a phone or are the police you only got 3 days to crack the phone or it's gonna reset and encrypt even harder
you kinda look like a younger david cross
Damn I’m staying on 18.0 so I can sideload extra apps and wait for a jailbreak. Why do they have to do so much cool shit?
Great, now that you have let the cat out of the bag, the police will now change the way they do things when they seize someone’s phone and also get someone to start working on a way to defeat the security feature.
This was reported on several other websites in the last week or so. The cops would have figured it out regardless.
Sounds like you should turn off your phone if pulled over or going through security at the airport or wherever, that way you get that sweet before first unlock presuming they boot it up
Android have same 72 hours feature for years now 😅
And? Late is better than never.
And Android phones still don't have a face ID as good as Apple's. And their fingerprint scanners have only recently caught up with Apple's.
i think apple said no more stealing data of our costmers its aigest our terms of serivce on our end bascly. also this is also bacly a old feature by the way i think ios had this all the way back in ios 13 or 14 bascly allready. also mac os x does this allready too by the way. after entering sleep mode by the way.
Gmail email alising is so hypocritical
It makes total sense tho! You get to enjoy the benefits of using aliases, while GMail gets to track and cross-connect your activity across every alias you use.
I think it's so people aren't encouraged to make another Google account. That free storage tier really adds up for Google when everybody does that
@@InventorZahran as if Gmail isn't doing that already 🤪
I don't have much hope that Mozilla will make it to 2030 :/
this has been athing since forever, works on andoid as well, before you get arested TURN OFF your phone, cops cant search it, wihtou you unlocking the first time without you fist unlocking it once.
They should also make it reboot if any attempt even the slightest one will reset the device. Also make it permanently wipe ALL data and even destroy all the serial numbers and such of all parts. Have there be special fuses that blow too to make it impossible to even try bringing it back too. Some chips already have those kinds of fuses and they blow completely silently. I believe some AMD processors have them to permanently lock a chip to specific vendor of motherboard. Lenovo is known to make use of that. That kind of fuse can be implemented in such a way as to completely cut the chip off from being forced to work again. The only way would be with very special and insanely expensive machines that can probe parts of the chip itself. Such a machine would be horribly expensive too!
As long as the police have a warrant and whatever legal stuff they need, then it should be fine.
Or if a warrant isn’t fine, then a court order should be. As someone said in a reply to one of my other comments on another video somewhere, they mentioned about needing to get info from a kidnapper’s phone. Then it would be very important as a life could be on the line.
One thing I always wonder about this, why are people so supportive of making crimes harder or impossible to solve? I am big on privacy, censorship and government overreach, but I don't really understand the positive this provides for anyone other than criminals. I suppose the US is about to become a rogue state so I guess from that perspective I can see why, but a normal functioning society where maybe 2% (give or take) of people get arrested (ignoring actually charged/investigated) how does this actually benefit us? Spying occurs in-transit or in other ways that don't involve direct access to a device, so what's this actually for? People that steal your (modern) phone aren't getting into it, they don't have the tools to do it - if they did we'd know. I'm happy to be told why people feel this is overall beneficial to everyone, again I support privacy and requiring law enforcement to be rigorously held to a standard.
Signal, or Zangi, they need to check those sites they use Tim Cook to friend people. I was so surprised to see it they use his pictures. Is not funny.
Was on apples site just wks before but the wording made it seem different lolol. Even in beta ppl noticed this happening and asked the right places were sone were answered generally
Nothing much to talk about when it comes to your privacy and apple, SOLD TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER ! . but honestly apple is not interested in your privacy because YOU'RE the product and the data they collected about you is what they are selling. Not too mention that they'll violate your constitutional rights, like they violated my 4th amendment rights when they decided to remove 12Gb of my music library that I transfered with my imac over lightning cable. Broke into my personal files and deleted th3m
it got less coverage people this don't make headlines as when it shows APple as the bad company.
Simple as that
100%. Apple bad, everything else good. Funny because Apple was the little underdog engine that could for decades; Microsoft was the bad guy. And they STILL ARE the bad guy with all of those Windows 11 ads and the privacy nightmare that is Edge.
OR what if they're both the bad guys...
Would be cool, if they could make it reboot once a USB with data is connected.
INB4 the Amazon scandal 2025
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This isn't that big of a deal - all police have to do is get a warrant (or subpoena) your entire Apple account, and they can access the data anyway, especially for data backed up to iCloud.
Absolute lies by apple
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Tryna clear their name up after the "FED ADDRESS IN CPU" controversy 🤣
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advocate from a company that scan your device and call a police to jail you. how many idiots still believe that people who can and already done literally anything they want cares about marketing pr security bs
Why is law enforcement being so open about this Apple situation? Is it a actually honeypot?
@@tiagotiagot It’s been an ongoing battle for years. Law enforcement has been trying to get the public behind them against Apple. They do have access to phones but it requires a court order and Apple will coordinate with them. What they want is a back door for instantaneous access which Apple refuses to provide for them. I think the FBI actually hired an Israeli firm to write software to crack the phones.
How on earth could it be a honey pot!?
They aren't being so open. Rather it has come to their attention because seized iPhones kept on power in vaults which hide them from cell phone access, have been rebooting, making it, as noted, harder to crack into. This has in turn been discussed among law enforcement, and of course this sort of information leaks out into general knowledge fairly quickly.
@@alexanderSydneyOz Good point. A police department in USA lost access to an unlocked phone, while it rebooted, despite the fact being in a sort of a Faraday box, resulting in the phone locking itself down. This surprised the forensic analysit, being a new behaviour from an iPhone device, that's how this thing got to the public. It's quite recent.
@@alexanderSydneyOz Dunno, this kinda rhymes with that time they made a lot of noise about needing to get Apple to help them decrypt phones, and then suddenly mumbled "nevermind" and got quiet, while Apple beefed up their marketing focusing on privacy protections they claimed to have...
what does this even mean? unlike vague claims from police saying they can't get keys from Apple this inactivity feature can be tested. You can go test this right now. Don't be silly Mr.Fed
Why does it matter? I mean genuinely. If you have done nothing illegal you have nothing to fear?
@@danh5637 I once thought this too, then realized: If a stranger randomly came up to you and asked to go through your phone without restrictions, would you let them?
@ difference between a random person and the police. But assuming they weren’t going to steal the device, then in the abstract if they could explain a good reason why, then I wouldn’t have a problem with it.
@@danh5637 So you'd let a random person (plain-clothes police count here) go through your phone if they can tell a convincing enough reason why? Even if it's a lie? What would those reasons be?
@@rubyreeds8931 I think I was pretty clear, that in the abstract, if there was a good reason. I don’t really care. I understand people who have things they wish to hide or they’re ashamed of may have an issue. I honestly don’t, and generally have nothing I’m ashamed or embarrassed about. I think that goes of really 99.99% of people. The only edge case I can think of is sensitive business information, like trade secrets etc.
So you would be fine with 24/7 video monitoring of the inside of your home, recording and monitoring of your calls and texts, and constant monitoring of your emails? Because you have nothing to hide? Isn’t privacy of value regardless?