Texas Challenge Of NFA Suppressor Regulations Gets Hearing This Week!
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God I hope they get rid of the NFA’s ridiculous stretching of the interstate commerce clause to infringe upon our constitutionally protected natural rights
God I hope they get rid of the NFA’s ridiculous stretching of the interstate commerce clause to infringe upon our constitutionally protected natural rights
Jared this is a little bit of a rant, but thought you maybe see this under your thread and maybe give your opinion? Thank you Sir for everything!
Hopefully Texas wins the standing argument, and chops suppressors from the NFA. The NFA registry has 3.1-3.2 million registered suppressors so by Caetano standards they are in common use by citizens for lawful purposes, and if they are in common use then they can’t be dangerous AND unusual. If they get standing, the case will probably end up at SCOTUS by the ATF requesting Cert. At the district it could go either way, but either whoever takes the L is gonna appeal it to the 5th Circuit where I believe Texas will win. Based upon no interstate commerce, they need to address they are in common use, and should be a W. The ATF will appeal to SCOTUS, and it will be granted cert because they always seem to get their cases heard. With that said if SCOTUS follows their precedent in Heller, Caetano, and Bruen then suppressors should be removed from the NFA.
I’m hoping the same thing happens for the pistol brace rule. The ATF in their brief to the 5th Circuit on those cases basically said pistol braced firearms were illegal SBRs the ENTIRE time so they can’t be used towards common use because they were illegal from the beginning🙄. They seem to forget they said for over a decade they weren’t SBRs even if they were shouldered. Now the shouldering they flip flopped a couple times, but if I remember correctly before this stupid rule came out shouldering was permitted again. Also they said they offered a “amnesty” window and whoever ignored it is basically a felon. If I remember right they gave 90-120 days for 3.5-7 million pistol braced firearms that they recognize as in circulation, but when they made “street sweepers” an NFA item as an AOW it involved like 10k weapons and they had 7 YEARS to register them. Either the NFA registry for SBRs has 600+k on file which under Caetano is common use. If you add the pistol braced firearms which the ATF doesn’t want counted in the number it’s over 4-7.5 million by the ATF figures.
I’m hoping both issues go to SCOTUS, and they follow their presence they set. Rule both suppressors and SBRs are in common use so they can’t be dangerous AND unusual and remove them under the regulations of the NFA. 🙏 I love to see the ATF get their teeth kicked in on a court decision that they started by their overreaching “rules” on items they said weren’t SBRs for over a decade, and now they were actually illegal SBRs the entire time with their owners being felons for possessing them. Can’t make that shit up! Another ATF thing just made on the fly.
Big Daddy Gobmint says shut up pheasants...do as ur told.... £U€K O££ ATF
If you got to ask permission and beg permission from the ATF to exercise your second amendment, SHALL NOT INFRINGE
THE NFA IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN ITS EXISTENCE
IT SHOULD NOT BE THERE
Repeal the NFA, problem solved.
Along with the GCA (1968), and, of course, the ATF.
Just repeal the atf that would be great.
Then DON'T Vote For Democrats!
Do Your Research to Avoid RINOS!
Hughes Amendment as well
I hope they overturn the whole unconstitutional NFA
Then DON'T Vote For Democrats, and Do Your Research to Avoid RINOS!
The NFA needs to be repealed period. This is a good step in that direction
Then DON'T Vote For Democrats, and Do Your Research to Avoid RINOS!
I agree Texas has a right to on a suppressor under the Constitution.
Even the most antifreedom countries in the world don't regulate suppressors. Some even require them
This is probably the best argument possible, I hope it is mentioned in the debate.
Examples?
@Shadow__133 Norway they can be bought from a convenience store like a PA k of gum, just like they should be everywhere
What? 🤣 What magic 8 ball told you that? I’ve never heard that EVER in my 41 years of existence.
@The_Rob_D Google is your friend. France will fine people for firing without a suppressor
This should be a ‘health’ issue, as well. The evidence is that EVERYONE wears ear protection on the range.
Suppressors should be mandatory based on the 1990 amendments to the clean air act, which added noise pollution. The right way to get suppressors off the NFA would be to sue EPA to enforce clean air act amendments. EPA would then have to allow the states to decide how to implement suppressor use via SIPS.
@@AlexfreimuthThey are more likely to ban all firearms with that argument 😂
It’s absolutely a health issue. Imagine if it had to be argued in the courts for automobile owners to put mufflers on vehicles. Not being able to put a muffler on a firearm without government permission is just as absurd.
@@stevennewman4778 I agree 100%. Suppressors serve to keep hearing safe and not much else.
Zero logical reasons to restrict them.
@@Shadow__133truly hearing safe suppressors are all held secret under national security patent processes. That or if you don't patent they just seize it. I believe the ATF has you submit your plans if you try to make one under the NFA. Most patents that are seized under national security are either energy or military applications.
Americans shouldn't have to ask permission & pay an extortion fee for supressers or SBS,SBR & anything else.
Then DON'T Vote For Democrats, and Do Your Research to Avoid RINOS!
Having to register and pay a tax for a muffler is stupid.
WE THE PEOPLE ARE IN CHARGE, NOT ANY 3 LETTER AGENCY
That's the way it should be but, not in a democrat run country.
@@Blueknight1960 this isn't a democracy 🤣 It's a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC
@@mistydawnhenderson1561He clearly meant that we're screwed as a nation controlled by the DemonicRAT PARTY. He wasn't questioning whether we're a Republic or a Democracy.
@@Blueknight1960 didn't pay attention in school did you?
All evidence to the contrary.
I'm a little confused because I thought in Murdoch versus Pennsylvania 1943 you cannot tax a right.
So therefore the NFA is in violation of that ruling as well as in violation of the Second Amendment.
They know, they don’t consider your right to arms a right though hints why the government has gone increasingly authoritarian since the NFA up until now where they are basically removing authority from the other branches in favor of a Maoist dictatorship.
The "standing" excuse is a lame way of the courts saying we don't want to touch this.
How about just declaring the NFA unconstitutional?!?!
LETS GO TEXAS - GIT-R-DONE!!!!! I want a Suppressor without government intrusion.
Can I file a lawsuit against the ATF for hearing loss?
We need an automatic weapons freedom act
It wouldn't pass in Congress, much less get the approval of the current President of the United States.
@@Joe_Boshwag I agree it would not pass Congress and the current administration head would veto it .the suppressor freedom act isn’t going through Congress . the automatic weapons freedom act would not need to go through Congress it would just take a state suing to make it happen just like the suppressor freedom act it would be the supreme court ultimately that decides
@@Joe_Boshwag Fudds like you not pushing the issue is why we've been stuck with the Hughes amendment for 35 years. It's flagrantly unconstitutional, and it was actually illegally pushed off the floor by Charlie Rangel after a first vote of 297 nays to 124 yeas. He held a second voice vote and called it passed after refusing a second recorded vote. We should have been pushing back against this as soon as it was passed, and we need to continually be pushing back against it no matter what congress or the president does. There should be legislation passed with massive community support every single congress.
FJB, and F the anti-2A clowns in Congress.
We don't need an act... We need a Supreme Court that says, "These laws are unconstitutional. You're infringing on the rights of citizens."
I won't buy a supressor until there is no tax and they're removed from the NFA
That is fine...live your life. But I live in Texas and WILL obtain a suppressor without the unconstitutional tax stamp as soon as a maker in Texas steps-up and sells it.
@@stevematthews684If Texas wins this then it stands to reason that in-house suppressors will be federally allowed with no registration/tax in all states. The feds can't apply the constitution differently to different states. I'm rooting for you guys.
@@samueljardine3402DemonRat governors: "Hold my beer" 🍺
@@Shadow__133You mean the Maoist party 😂
@@Shadow__133 I figured the same thing which is why I had to specify federally. But hey, legal in most states and no longer a federal charge is still great progress.
Suppressors are not firearms, without a firearm they are just a bit of metal.
FYI - You kept referring to Thursday, May 1st as the hearing date. May 1st in on Wednesday. I hope and pray that Texas BEATS the ATF into the ground!
I don't know why Suppressors were included in the National FIREARMS Act to begin with. They're NOT a Firearm.
The Goon Squad is gearing up as we speak.
Vote Harder!
Until such time as there is a ratified change to the Shall not be infringed clause, Congress has no authority, and has never had the authority to enact firearms legislation. Per Marbury v Madison, all such laws are void. Per the Shuttleworth decision they may be violated with impunity.
If you can legally purchase a weapon you should be able to purchase suppressor without an additional fee.
Funk the AFT!!
Lets get this straight . A right is something you do not need permission to use . But you have to ask a court's permission to see if you have it or not ....when are the people of this world going to stand on there own feet and tell the people who think they own you to go to HELL !
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God bless Texas! We want and believe in our freedom.
Violation to the NFA is like 20 years in prison how can someone say you have no standing?
Disarmament agenda
You might want to read about standing.
Basically.we need someone to take one for the team and get charged with having a Texas made and owned suppressor without a tax stamp be charged and sentenced to jailtime,fined or both.
@@stevewoodsideI used to think that, but then hearing of Jeremy Kettler and Shane Cox being convicted under the NFA in Kansas with their “Made in Kansas” loss in 2019, which the Supreme Court refused to hear, I realize it’s a lost cause at the state level.
@@snappyaj9053Technically it’s not a lost cause, the difference being the federal government is authoritarian and decides to pick/choose what they want to enforce. You have blue states openly ignoring numerous federal laws yet if a state like Texas wants to remove their grip on gun control they immediately clamp down because it will impact the disarmament agenda. That’s how you know that this country will collapse soon.
If Texas wins, you know the silencer manufacturers will move to Texas and industry will be good.
Hell yes Texas !!!!!!!
They'll still put you in jail for possessing or using a gun or saying something bad.
God Bless Texas!
As a Texas resident i will be watching this one closely
Its pathetic that we have to fight for ear protection!
Cover it please! As a Texas resident I want to thank AG Paxton
The first is Wednesday not Thursday
Holy fuck, you're right!
WE, all have standing here. via penalty of law, prison time and or fines! if WE didn't, it wouldn't be illegal.
Kansas had 2 men convicted of federal firearms charges even though we have this law. Apparently it doesn't matter what states laws say if the federal government can say states laws don't matter. 👍❤️🇺🇲 FJB
2A❤️🇺🇸❤️ FJB !
We The People Don,t need the ATF !
Mississippi passed one as well, but ours doesn’t take effect until TEXAS wins! We are watching this case closely.
We need to be informed and get involved in every state. Thanks for bringing this up to us.
That’s insane. How long has this been? 2 years and now they court want to hear it
This should ALL fall under the totally ABSURD idea that government is not INFRINGING when it regulates minor aspects of firearms. Barrel lengths, furniture, muzzle devices -- and all similar things have POSITIVELY NO LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT INTEREST. This nonsense has to end. They should all be challenged in a single case: if a firearm is legal then any modification which doesn't substantially change its function should be legal.
Amazing what and when judges consider standing. When our rights are being violated by the government, we have no standing, but if the government violates our rights, then they have standing. . .. .
It would sure help save a lot of people's hearing.
Thursday is May 2, and Wednesday is May 1.
Let's go Texas
Shall not be infringed
Silence is golden.
About time. Takes days to restrict but years or decades for relief.
Even if we 'win' this court case, the war of freedom vs. tyranny continues. We can thank traitors-in-office (and their supporters) for that.
Good Afternoon from Corrupt Illinois. Thanks for the update. I'm hoping Texas prevails.
Every state should allow suppressors. No question
Save us all no ATF..no more headaches…get them and dissolve them from government!
That would be awesome if suppressors get taken off the NFA list❤
For the rhythm!!✊🏻🇺🇸✊🏻
You can not tax an unalienable right?
Can't wait to watch this
I just love the Heller and Bruen decisions.
This is EXACTLY why form 4’s are going fast af. They are trying to get as much money as fast as possible before the NFA has a possibility to get thrown down the shitter.
Madison V Marbury stops all these gun laws. This includes the NFA and GCA.
Damn right Texas has a vested interest.
If you actually think that the Feds will ever give up their interstate commerce clause to which gives them the ability to control damn near everything , go ahead and ask for that pony too . Both sides of the aisle want the power the interstate commerce clause gives them so they will fight tooth & nail to not lose that power .
We need more states to pass a similar law
Texas needs to tell the government to stick it where the sun does shine
May 1 is Wednesday
Maybe his calendar is old. 😂
I’ll place a large bet that they find we don’t have standing!
Even in the 5th circuit!
FJB!🇺🇸
Thank you for posting this info. A bigger thank you for posting it without any amount of click bait in the title/image. This is something that is becoming very uncommon in the sphere of guntubers.
Armed Scholar being the primary one that does this. It’s why I refuse to watch his videos. Misleading titles just to get views.
@@chrisj4570g glad I’m not alone
GTT! Let's go
Yes, please cover the comment period live, I'll be watching.
It sounds like Montana would be the best state to challenge this, because the two guys serving life for it.
If you can make your own gun without a serial number why can't you make a silencer without a serial number ,why in the hell are we paying $200 for a right?
I'd love to read their briefings. I'd argue that Texas has the authority, under the 2nd and 10th Amendments, to choose what weapons it militia should have, not the feds, so the entire NFA is unconstitutional on those grounds.
Yeah, I'd be interested in watching the hearing.
I believe Idaho has a similar law on the books.
Thank You Jared 👍😎👍
It's about time.
Yes we have a standing cause of the constitution
Idaho also has the same law on the books
Algorithm buster
The standing is "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGE"
Would be amazing if suppressors are not restricted any more nation wide. SCOTUS can remove many firearm restrictions if the NFA is abolished.
Paxton was in limbo on the original hearing, but not now, so let's hope the judges see logic.
The first is Wednesday there. And I agree with you. We shouldn't have to ask for permission
Interstate commerce clause justification is like saying the Federal government has jurisdiction over all corpses because they might be buried or cremated in any state.
That would be Stellar!
May they b successful...😊
Yes, cover it Jared 👍.....
Hopefully states rights win out over federals.
Thanks Jared
Be interesting to see how this plays out. Busting those algorithms!!
Yes injury of non-freedom period!!
yes i would like to hear this
The 1st is Wednesday not Thursday, and I am so looking forward to seeing the outcome.
It's about time. Hopefully this will be done away with. And I hope that the ATF has to repay everyone their $ back that they paid to to get a surpressure. Hopefully this will bankrupt the ATF into none existence.
Anyone else think these 3-4 day approvals are the ATF seeing the writing on the wall. And trying to collect as much money as possible before major rulings/changes
Thank you.
Here in Michigan the first of May falls on Wednesday.
May 1 is Wednesday, not Thursday. I will be there in the gallery.
Repeal the NFA.
"Shall not be infringed" Right?