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  • Jay Dobyns is a retired ATF agent who went undercover with the Hells Angels from 2001 to 2003 as part of Operation Black Biscuit. He speaks with Insider about his experience with the outlaw motorcycle gang and its inner workings.
    Dobyns joined the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives in 1987 and conducted over 500 undercover operations during his time there, from weapons and narcotics trafficking to home-invasion burglary. He served as an instructor at the agency's National Academy. He is also the recipient of the United States attorney general's Medal of Valor, 12 ATF special-act awards, and the National Association of Police Organizations' top-cops award.
    He is the author of "No Angel: My Harrowing Undercover Journey to the Inner Circle of the Hells Angels."
    Find out more: www.jaydobyns.com/
    Chapter 1: Entering the Clubhouse - 00:29
    Chapter 2: The Hierarchy - 02:43
    Chapter 3: The Rivalries - 05:30
    Chapter 4: Gaining Trust - 09:08
    Chapter 5: The Rules - 10:40
    Chapter 6: The Money - 12:24
    Chapter 7: The Parties - 13:44
    Chapter 8: The Mongols Incident - 15:05
    Chapter 9: The Fallout - 17:20
    Chapter 10: The Aftermath - 19:46
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  • @underduckbro
    @underduckbro Год назад +34197

    I wish they sent undercover police to investigate politicians

    • @mr.voidroy6869
      @mr.voidroy6869 Год назад +1494

      Unfortunately, the founding fathers were smart enough to make checks and balances but not for themselves

    • @wolfumz
      @wolfumz Год назад +1352

      Its kind of amazing. The entire criminal justice system runs while a well-oiled machine when it comes to convicting drug crime. Any drug crime, the whole system works in perfect harmony, like it was made for the purpose.
      But sex crimes? Political corruption? White collar crime? Suddenly, the justice system grinds to a halt. The justice system is totally ineffective when it comes these crimes.
      98% of perpetrators of violent SA never a see a day in jail. But you better pray you're not a destitute drug addict, because the full weight of the law will come down on you.

    • @jensgronning4436
      @jensgronning4436 Год назад +119

      They do.

    • @anarchocyclist
      @anarchocyclist Год назад +49

      Ohhhh snap good one bro that's so tough abd smart abd cool

    • @hadrakir4098
      @hadrakir4098 Год назад +15

      Off you go.

  • @mojomojo9829
    @mojomojo9829 Год назад +7663

    The book is absolutely brilliant. I read it a few years ago and couldn't put it down. The ATF should be ashamed at what they've done to Jay,he gave up his life for that investigation and they hung him out to dry. A shocking betrayal.

    • @richardnoggen4808
      @richardnoggen4808 Год назад

      LOL shocking? its the ATF... NEVER trust the 3 letter agencies my guy

    • @BraveClam
      @BraveClam Год назад +752

      The ATF is literally an embarrassment, and that's why those dingleberries need to get dispersed. They overstep their boundaries.

    • @damiandraven4537
      @damiandraven4537 Год назад +109

      Yea it didn't tell about how much he lied and why he was kicked out of the investigation

    • @steverobertson6393
      @steverobertson6393 Год назад +180

      @@damiandraven4537 Where can we corroborate that idea / story? How do YOU know he lied? Is it obvious? Maybe his book is ridiculous and exceptionally intelligent people can decipher the truth from fiction.
      Don't know. Haven't read it.
      But for those who want to believe you over Jay, how do they know you are right?

    • @roooooin
      @roooooin Год назад +17

      I didn’t know that part of his story yet. I should definitely get my hands on that book somehow. Anyone know if there’s an ebook version available?

  • @lostwizardcat9910
    @lostwizardcat9910 3 месяца назад +658

    I grew up around hells angels, by the age of 10 i knew the sergeant at arms, treasurer, and president of the local chapter. My father ran around with them for years, he never got patched in, despite it being offered multiple times. He refused because of me.
    He always told me "Its the clean cut ones you need to watch."
    The man that wears a button up shirt, with real nice hair and no tattoos in a group of "biker" looking guys is the most dangerous man in the group.

    • @themetkaf
      @themetkaf 2 месяца назад +13

      why?

    • @lostwizardcat9910
      @lostwizardcat9910 2 месяца назад

      @@themetkaf Because they're the ones with things to really hide.
      Not to mention because out of the entire group the cops aren't going to look at the well dressed guy with a nice job first. They'll look at him close to last because all of his buddies with gang tattoos and a petty rap sheet 3 miles long fit the bill more than him.

    • @user-ry5hm7ho8t
      @user-ry5hm7ho8t 2 месяца назад +19

      I used to get my gear via them in the 1980's. They invited another group of bikers out into a forest for a "chat" over a stabbing. This was in england. There was a newspaper story about some one being shot in the legs with a shot gun. They did not mention the meat clever incident. i got a phone call about going fishing at the docks. We drove srtaight through the gates unchallenged, directly to a shipping container which was cordoned off and there was a customs man there with a handgun guarding it. i was that non badged clean cut guy you are talking about. If they wanted those guns, all they had to do was put their cards on the table.

    • @chrislaverick6413
      @chrislaverick6413 2 месяца назад +2

      Why is that?

    • @user-ry5hm7ho8t
      @user-ry5hm7ho8t Месяц назад

      ​@@themetkaf Every church has its chapter. The word chapter also appears in 'freemasonry' They claim america was built on freemasonry. It is a form of statistical manipulation. I found out about hells angels via tv when I was still at school. I did not know what chapter is. No one told me. i was being exploited the same way as everyone else. It got people killed.

  • @MrJRW1
    @MrJRW1 8 месяцев назад +344

    The Hells Angels story about how you managed to infiltrate the club is one of the most incredible stories I’ve ever seen. Very few people would have the necessary skills to handle playing a role like that. It’s not like the Hells Angels aren’t cautious and aware that law enforcement is always trying to get in. Just insane to even try it. I can’t imagine how stressful and scary it must have been at times.

    • @puertogreekn8675
      @puertogreekn8675 5 месяцев назад +12

      Balls of steel for real

    • @deecee2174
      @deecee2174 3 месяца назад +5

      Ive met a handful of members from working in the oilfield...
      An HA member will NEVER straight up tell you theyre a memeber... you put 2 and 2 together and figure it out
      Alot of HA guys are good too, they dont pick fights with locals or cause harm. I respect the HA theyve always been good to work with

    • @theeyehead3437
      @theeyehead3437 2 месяца назад +8

      @@deecee2174 What do you mean they never tell you they're a member? Their whole thing is that they wear jackets with the name printed in bold letters

    • @beangaloot5
      @beangaloot5 2 месяца назад

      their "whole thing" is what? something you've seen on tv or youtube, I'm guessing ..
      @@theeyehead3437

    • @thedripdrop9826
      @thedripdrop9826 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@deecee21742 and 2 together like looking at the huge patch on their back? They ain't in hiding, chief

  • @Tipa_B
    @Tipa_B 11 месяцев назад +2101

    I read this mans book almost 10 years ago. It was a phenomenal book and a great insight both into the friendships formed in the Hell's Angels as well as the failure of the ATF.
    If I recall correctly, one HA member refused to believe "Bird" was an undercover agent until he took the stand to testify, cuz he considered him a close friend. The book is 100% worth a read.

    • @unboxingbraxton2084
      @unboxingbraxton2084 8 месяцев назад +5

      Whats the book called mate

    • @hellsregect
      @hellsregect 8 месяцев назад +30

      @@unboxingbraxton2084 No Angel

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 8 месяцев назад

      The whole ATF agency is a failure, they need to be disbanded and everyone in it jailed

    • @kolisnykizer
      @kolisnykizer 7 месяцев назад +4

      I’m gonna pick that up. Thanks for the rec.

    • @takuma359
      @takuma359 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist1metaphorical madness u got there cuh 🔥 🔥 you should do rap on jah 🌋🔥🗽🗽

  • @yuordreams
    @yuordreams Год назад +4355

    You can tell it's difficult for him to talk about his family and his betrayal. I feel for him.

    • @brandondixon207
      @brandondixon207 Год назад +89

      Sounds real comfortable to me

    • @jeffhoffmann3620
      @jeffhoffmann3620 Год назад

      Crappy...two faced garbage ..laughable ..law enforcent..been corrupt for decades.🤔😠

    • @bryonkidder6199
      @bryonkidder6199 Год назад +125

      He's trying to keep all his lies straight...lol

    • @johnsonofthunder1026
      @johnsonofthunder1026 Год назад +1

      Spies are the lowest form of life though . 👿

    • @Burzurk1987
      @Burzurk1987 Год назад +194

      I don’t feel for him at all. He is a walking paradox. He wanted to have his cake and eat it. He wanted the glory of being in the Hells Angels and at the same time make himself out to be some kind of hero cop who bravely sacrificed himself to uphold the “law”. He didn’t care that he betrayed his own family, otherwise he would have never taken that stupid undercover assignment which turned out practically nothing.

  • @MelodicMizeryPs3Vids
    @MelodicMizeryPs3Vids 8 месяцев назад +456

    around the late 70s early 80s my dad was a mechanic and loved bikes, was driving on the freeway and saw a guy on the side with his bike broken down and was a hells angel. my dad was always friendly to help anyone his entire life and helped this guy get his bike running again. afterwards the guy pulled a gun out and said you gotta come with me and meet some people to make sure your legit and not some undercover. my dad went and they found out pretty quick he was just a regular guy. he ended up hanging out with them alot. he had some sort of vest, i know it wasnt a official but i think it was the ones they give people in "Training" or new members for him to wear when he was around. he went to alot of their parties mainly or just rode for fun with them. he said alot of stuff he saw he didnt want to tell me. he said women were anyones women. at least the onces he experienced. i know there is ones that there are hands off on. around the time i was born they had a big raid in the chapter in our city and he said all the ones he knew were leaving and going to the california chapter to get away from the heat. so my dad burned the vest he had and never went back to anything like that. i would ask why didnt you keep the vest. this was in the 80s when i was wearing jean jackets with heavy metal patches all over them thinking thats the coolest thing. he said it was like wearing a target and if the wrong people ever found it he could get killed. didnt even want anyone to find it ever in his closet. he also didnt own a bike at the time, he had one when he was younger and crashed them. he was actually a horrible rider nearly died once lol. but he said when he was around the angels that he knew they always had a spare bike he could ride with them. they were very giving. weather that was to course him or if they just liked him i dunno. he would help others tune their bikes or fix them. i worked with my dad as a mechanic as i got older and thats just how he was. we had our own family business and often if he saw someone who worked for us or a friend of a friend having issues he would just go over there and start working on their stuff for them and never charged them and would either fix it or tell them what they needed to fix it. sometimes we would spend 14-16 hour days at our shop it was exhausting. time to him didnt matter, he practically lived at work. but he also provided for his kids from his first wife, me, my 2 adopted sisters, and then his 3rd wife he took care of my step bro and step sis and when my step sis had a kid he took care of her kid as well. a few years ago he died broke and crippled with a caine. he only had a trailer and a half paid car. i sold the trailer for 10k and paid the car off with it and kept it.

    • @KennyJimenez-ng6zb
      @KennyJimenez-ng6zb 8 месяцев назад +32

      Your Dad died a rich man.

    • @MelodicMizeryPs3Vids
      @MelodicMizeryPs3Vids 7 месяцев назад +54

      @@KennyJimenez-ng6zb i can say he def died rich in spirit. i also seen him lose alot of money over the years by helping other workers and stuff. would loan them money and never get it back. from what i know he was owed at least 8 grand total from various people he helped. there was another story he told me something about being in a bar with them and a huge fight brokeout with another biker gang. i wanan say it was with the outlaws but i cant say for sure, some of these stories he told me when i was 9 and told them to me multiple times. but im 42 now so its kind of vivid. but the bar fight it was enough to spook him to not go drinking with them again. he seemed to really enjoy his time around them but also had a sense of this cant be long term thing around when i was born. i think the cleveland chapter being raided was prob the best thing to happen and prob give him a out. anyways thanks everyone for listening to me yap about my pops!

    • @rebel1052k
      @rebel1052k 7 месяцев назад +26

      @@MelodicMizeryPs3Vids Thanks for sharing your insight, great stories to read and RIP to your Pops. He sounded like a very kind and generous man.

    • @MelodicMizeryPs3Vids
      @MelodicMizeryPs3Vids 7 месяцев назад

      thank you @@rebel1052k

    • @kanelbulle59
      @kanelbulle59 7 месяцев назад +6

      Wow this is quite the story, I love how he basically just treated them as a normal group of bikers (with some caution ofc). I think HA is an very interesting group since yeah sure they are mostly criminals and dangerous BUT they will rarely hurt anyone without a real reason cus they have their own rules/honor to follow and beside that they are a family and it’s kinda sad to hear the betrayal on a family level when a cop who infiltrated, stands against them

  • @Hellspawnxxx
    @Hellspawnxxx 8 месяцев назад +269

    The writers of Sons of Anarchy TV series really did their home work. Because everything about how the Hells Angels are run including their club and how the cuts are labeled is pretty well spot on with SoA

    • @kylearmstrong3935
      @kylearmstrong3935 4 месяца назад +5

      Cuttes*

    • @valkillmore847
      @valkillmore847 2 месяца назад +18

      You know nothing of how the club works in real life, and the tiny bit they knew about on that gay TV show is only because they had actual club members on payroll giving tiny insights into the workings

    • @sloppyy
      @sloppyy 2 месяца назад +14

      lmao that show is just sopranos for people who didn't understand tony was supposed to be a bad person

    • @mercybeats_
      @mercybeats_ 2 месяца назад +31

      @@valkillmore847man you’re upset aren’t you

    • @nwerd7584
      @nwerd7584 2 месяца назад +4

      Yeah but he even says it in the video. Every chapter is massively different. Where I am on the east coast they are generally regarded as decent guys because they do all the charity stuff every year. There hasn't been an incident with the public in decades.

  • @thomaslove6494
    @thomaslove6494 Год назад +3543

    Just imagine being one of this dudes best friends in the gang ... Thinking you've got one of the greatest bonds with someone and then one day the cops bust in your door and arrest you... Then you realize it was your "best friend" who is a cop that turned you in.

    • @DjDolHaus86
      @DjDolHaus86 Год назад +358

      That's literally the plot of Donnie Brasco, good film, well worth a watch

    • @bigredracingteam9642
      @bigredracingteam9642 Год назад +567

      These biker gang fellows betray their so-called "friends" all the time. I have zero sympathy for these people.

    • @thomaslove6494
      @thomaslove6494 Год назад +143

      @@bigredracingteam9642 I wouldn't say I have zero sympathy... At least for all of them anyway... I'm sure there are a few real pieces of work. But probably some decent guys also who've just made mistakes as well.

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 Год назад +310

      I dont know how this dude sleeps at night. I could care less about grown adults doing drugs.. Go after some bikers, but if your rich you can have a whole island of children to have sex with and then have other rich people come.. what a joke the justice system is

    • @CamJames
      @CamJames Год назад +126

      @@SpaceRanger187 that guy you're referring to was locked up for those crimes before being murdered in prison. not sure what your point is

  • @noobkin997
    @noobkin997 Год назад +970

    The best PR the Hell's Angels get is from cops like this. Even back in the 60's when Hunter S Thompson wrote about them he admitted that the Hell's Angels weren't that big of a deal until the police and the media started blowing them up and then they grew exponentially. They admitted themselves that they were never as crazy as the cops and media made them sound, but they appreciated all the free advertising.

    • @mkh29mail
      @mkh29mail Год назад

      @@beezub4311 good point. Also on top of this: Texas isn't "just one state". It is the second most populated state behind California and makes up more than 10% of the USA population. Shows that real power actually exists

    • @thePyiott
      @thePyiott Год назад +84

      They rarely mess with civilians, and in some case the keeper crazier gangs in check, but the are No saints

    • @noobkin997
      @noobkin997 Год назад +51

      @@beezub4311 I guess you didn't read my comment, I said they weren't a big deal UNTIL all of the sudden attention they got in the late sixties and seventies.

    • @201hastings
      @201hastings Год назад +19

      Yeah I forgot that meth isn’t a big deal. My bad

    • @noobkin997
      @noobkin997 Год назад +55

      @@201hastings You think the HA cornered the market on meth in the sixties? I feel like you're not getting what I'm saying here

  • @Dgn404
    @Dgn404 2 месяца назад +17

    The Hell's Angels are so hard to morally assess. They started as veterans that were fucked over returning from war, they don't bother you if you don't bother them, they contribute to society and yet... the killing and drugs and such. I feel like these were good people that were cruelly let down so they lost faith in society and decided to fend for themself(at least in their beginnings). Correct me if I am wrong though, I met one Hell's Angel in my life, I don't know enough to have a solid stance.

  • @mrwayne548
    @mrwayne548 8 месяцев назад +11

    Damn the fact he so readily admits his failures. It tells you how much a different man he is today

  • @DioDiablo702
    @DioDiablo702 Год назад +1177

    This is the type of journalism we should be seeing on mainstream media. Hopefully there's more to come.

    • @sicksparrow7023
      @sicksparrow7023 Год назад +34

      Insider is fairly mainstream. Owned by a big, multinational media company. It's pretty far away from guerilla journalism...

    • @angelozachos8777
      @angelozachos8777 Год назад +14

      @DioDiablo
      This type of journalism is Bread & Circus stuff 😂
      Are you for real ?

    • @davidmackii1513
      @davidmackii1513 Год назад

      It is national geographic channel!

    • @djh4328
      @djh4328 Год назад

      Arkansas

    • @apokalypthoapokalypsys9573
      @apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 Год назад +2

      James O'Keefe does it.

  • @assembled1855
    @assembled1855 Год назад +1105

    Bring him for rating Motorcycle Club scenes from Movies and TV shows

    • @Daniel-uj1nu
      @Daniel-uj1nu Год назад +6

      Amazing idea

    • @SidewaysBurnouts
      @SidewaysBurnouts Год назад

      make him dress up like a rat and eat rotten food in the dark for a contest.

    • @musicalnotextr
      @musicalnotextr Год назад +21

      Literally it would just be 'Sons of Anarchy' and 'Mayans M.C.' clips.
      Okay, maybe the Serpents from 'Riverdale' or the One-Eyed Snakes from 'Bob's Burgers'.

    • @westoneuler4065
      @westoneuler4065 Год назад +8

      @@musicalnotextr nah those would just be the only ones that might be close to reality, bikers are constantly in media just horribly misrepresented.

    • @TheCanadianWeeb5
      @TheCanadianWeeb5 Год назад +1

      please do

  • @jjs6568
    @jjs6568 8 месяцев назад +109

    After reading "no angel" like ten years ago I was astonished to hear about the law suit against dobbins by the atf. But if there was anything i would say more about the book is how apparent it was after reading it that the biggest obstacle dobbins faced was not collecting evidentiary means to convictions, but being bogged down beaurocratic red tape that prevented any real work from being done. Politics and crime are so connected in ways its unbelievable.

    • @ProvisionalPatrioticAlliance
      @ProvisionalPatrioticAlliance 7 месяцев назад +3

      It's the same thing... crime is just legalized political strong arming until it crosses to physical violence... which the state contracts out to other agents than the ones in charge of legal and monetary harassment.

    • @ProvisionalPatrioticAlliance
      @ProvisionalPatrioticAlliance 7 месяцев назад +6

      If you don't pay a state ordered fine in most cases eventually men will show up at your door and threaten violence if you don't do what they say. It's no different from the mob.
      What do you call men with guns showing up at your door? Because that's what the law does.

  • @chillwillfromtheville
    @chillwillfromtheville 8 месяцев назад +15

    I saw a solo Hell’s Angel riding early morning once in Colorado Springs years ago. I was literally amazed only having heard of them.

    • @gohar777
      @gohar777 Месяц назад

      same situation with me lmao

  • @paulthomasmiller1842
    @paulthomasmiller1842 Год назад +1918

    My dad (deceased) was a club president (not the angels) during the biker wars of the 70s.
    I could write a book about what I witnessed and what my dad told me.
    I remember during High School watching him on the local news with the mayor, chief of police and the president of the rival club.
    Crazy times.

    • @yeh.80
      @yeh.80 Год назад +41

      Wow, history is amazing. How do you think this has affected your thinking in life?

    • @plark7323
      @plark7323 Год назад +64

      My father was in one in the bay area in the 70's and 80's and the whole complex we lived in was members and the apartments across the street were memebers.... until one day a gun fight broke out then my pops said its time to get my family outta here. Crazy times

    • @paulthomasmiller1842
      @paulthomasmiller1842 Год назад +97

      @@yeh.80 great question. At one point in my teens my dad made it crystal clear that the club was his family. So I knew that lifestyle wasn't for me.
      My dad eventually had to go into hiding shortly before he died from ALS.
      I should also say that I was always treated with the highest respect from the club and other bikers.

    • @Jakem763
      @Jakem763 Год назад +1

      What was your dads name?

    • @paulthomasmiller1842
      @paulthomasmiller1842 Год назад +64

      @@Jakem763 going to have to pass. Sorry.

  • @johnnada1222
    @johnnada1222 Год назад +492

    I remember this guy , he was one tough wide receiver for the University of Arizona. He would go across the middle catch the ball , get his bell rung and then do it again on the next play . A true football badass.

    • @Ron-ml2mx
      @Ron-ml2mx Год назад +10

      Literally Johnny Utah!

    • @MauriceTarantulas
      @MauriceTarantulas Год назад +6

      ​@@Ron-ml2mx Except Jonny Utah was a quaterback punk.

    • @huemann7637
      @huemann7637 Год назад +32

      Must be why he was silly enough to be an undercover cop. Guy got the sense knocked OUT of him.

    • @johnnada1222
      @johnnada1222 Год назад +5

      @@Ron-ml2mx yeah, that’s who I thought of when I remembered who he was.

    • @genefogarty5395
      @genefogarty5395 Год назад +13

      Sounds like a real genius that repeated behavior resulting in the same outcome while expecting something else. No wonder he was a perfect fit for govt' work.

  • @lilyvonlicht1517
    @lilyvonlicht1517 7 месяцев назад +15

    over 20 years ago my dad found a bunch of hells angels shirts at a flea market he listed a few for sale on ebay and almost instantly was messaged by a member demanding they come pickup the shirts he has(he didn’t list all of them at once so he was able to keep a good bit😳)

  • @billbrasky7540
    @billbrasky7540 4 месяца назад +17

    Every time I see this thumbnail, I keep thinking that's Mike Ehrmantraut.

  • @sebastienbolduc5654
    @sebastienbolduc5654 Год назад +424

    I've heard similar stories from former undercover officers who worked on cases against the Hell's. In the end it leads to nowhere. An officer can spend well over 2 decades investigating and building up "a case" and then it all gets thrown out of court. They have good lawyers. My old business law professor in college had been a lawyer for them during his younger years. Nowadays the Hell's are mostly involved in money laundering. Where I live it's now illegal for them to wear their patches in public. Just wearing a jacket can land them in prison. So they have gone underground like an SOB. All of their club houses have been demolished. Another thing this guy doesn't mention is that they lure young men into the club through the use of younger woman. The younger women will pretend to just run across them and invite them to a party, "Oh, it's just a party, etc." They're prospecting when they do that. Any ways, I never understood what the big deal was about them. Never cared either. As for this former cop, the whole system is corrupt. He found that out the hard way. I bet law enforcement wasn't there to protect him nor his family after the SHTF. Obviously someone from the inside ratted him out. His fellow gang members were probably more loyal to him then his brothers in blue.

    • @threethrushes
      @threethrushes Год назад +8

      GABOS
      game ain't based on sympathy

    • @J.B.1982
      @J.B.1982 Год назад

      That’s the funny thing about gangs and mafias, the government is no different. We just give them more legitimacy, they have bigger guns, and hold a slightly more peaceful order.

    • @jakedee4117
      @jakedee4117 Год назад +9

      Oh wow ! luring guys into you club with hot chicks, that's got to be a RICO predicate right there 🤣🤣🤣

    • @darthjarjar5309
      @darthjarjar5309 10 месяцев назад +14

      Not even worth the huge risk of getting caught and the consequences when the charges are brought and have to live with a bounty on your head. Unlike Organized crime that avoids targeting law enforcement, the biker gangs don’t care who you are. And then you have your own agency suing you for a book you wrote, ungreatful motherf*kers. This should be suing for permanent security detail.

    • @382u3uuej
      @382u3uuej 10 месяцев назад

      It is an amazing example of how the government is 100% at fault for crime, everyone knows who these people are but due to stupid legislation and lack of interest by the government they don't get arrested, look at Bukele in El Salvador, he got rid of the criminal gangs that were worst than in mexico and now is an extremely safe country, the gangs got crushed when someone assumed power and decided to end it, similar cases happen constantly where the state is lenient and crime increases and when it applies the law crime goes down, it's amazing to me that bands of criminals can roam the street wearing a big sign that says "I'm part of a criminal organization" without repercussions due to stupid laws that protect criminals and lack of interest by the state.

  • @TheMooseFromTheRoom
    @TheMooseFromTheRoom Год назад +369

    I actually read "No Angel", great book that I can really recommend ! I ate it right up, couldn't put it down. The way Jay was treated by the ATF was shameful, he gave so much to the case, but he was an asset, nothing more.

    • @Nonogrow420
      @Nonogrow420 7 месяцев назад

      Ftp....💩🔨rats a rat a RAT🔨👿

    • @AnthonyVanzant
      @AnthonyVanzant 6 месяцев назад

      no-offence yet its not a job'description that a legit cop or person of'anytype would take' (whilst it shows little macro-insight to the real'world and the plethora of contrived problems these operations manufacture bƴdèsìgn' so coughing up for the book n'rewarding the innocent n'unnecessary lives that are destroy'd by this kind of pseudo-policing cr*p isnt a wise'choice (just'my opinion yet) its hard to believe that anybody rational could look@any of this as a legit job
      and/or a legit job welldone' (injussàƴin' ,,,

    • @slayermill8621
      @slayermill8621 2 месяца назад +9

      Sounds pretty on brand for the ATF. Another 3 letter fed agency that should be disbanded.

    • @tazjoplin1733
      @tazjoplin1733 2 месяца назад

      Typical federal government move.

    • @sandrapulliam6768
      @sandrapulliam6768 Месяц назад

      All of there infiltrators were treated like this

  • @channelx92
    @channelx92 Месяц назад +38

    I believe this was the most honest interview he has given to this day. It was nice to hear him acknowledge that not all members are criminal drug addicts and the club does do things to help the community. That is very true when it comes to kids. Are there members that participate in criminal activity? Im sure there is just like the general public but you can't lump everyone together.

    • @blantant
      @blantant 20 дней назад

      I listened to the whole thing and came convinced that the whole thing was a giant waste of taxpayer money. Who are the real bad guys? AFT are the crooks. Defund them.

    • @jendee1260
      @jendee1260 4 дня назад

      mexican drug cartels do the same thing…

  • @LimJahey710
    @LimJahey710 8 месяцев назад +9

    I read his book a few years ago. Great follow up. Tough to hear about his family and the inevitable follow ups and house situation.

  • @Lanwarder
    @Lanwarder Год назад +336

    Friends of mine were hired to play and being soundmen at a hell's angels party if I remember well.....They brought around 15 or 20K$ worth of equipment. At one point things went bad. They told the musicians and techs to go in the basement and shut up (or something like that). They spent quite a lot of time there from what I remember, then they got out (I don't know if they were told not to look around or if everything was clear by then.) They gave the guys 20 to 30 k$ or something like that and asked the "Did you see anything strange last night?" where they all said "nope, I don't remember anything weird" and they all went their own way......I've had weird gigs in my life. That one I'm glad I did not get.

    • @jonnymac8925
      @jonnymac8925 Год назад +40

      Why not? 20-30k to sit in a basement for the night? They also didn't see or hear anything and they all left unscathed so it sounds like a win to me. I can't play any instruments well enough to be in a band but but I'll gladly sign up! Lol but in all seriousness, that's wild and incredibly sketchy

    • @Lanwarder
      @Lanwarder Год назад

      @@jonnymac8925 I never said that they did not hear anything.......They've allegedly heard quite a lot.....and I'm not talking only about people arguing lol... I've been in bands most of my life. I never experienced anything like that.....I forgot to be clear about something, they received 20-30k$ but all their gear was.......well, let's say that they didn't get in back and it'd be a safe bet to assume that no one is ever going to use it ever. (Making it as a musician in today's world is such a hard gig that I'd probably happily hide in a bunker for 20/30K$ if it didn't mean that I'd end up losing around 20kS worth of gear that I've spent years selecting.....Gear that is now probably worth more money now than back when I bought it lol and call me weird, I sorta get emotionally attached to my gear, especially my instruments lol (Yeah I know, being emotionally attached to a guitar or an amp is messed up, but all songwriters are messed up to a certain extent in my opinion lol and well, a lot of musicians in general are lol.) Anyways, I'm sorry, it's 7 A.M. over here, spent the night recording then had 2 and a half drinks (I'm trying not to have a huge alcohol tolerance lol)....I then fell asleep, saw your message and somehow decided that now was the right time to answer......probably wasn't the best decision :p, but whatever, I felt like specifying a few things that weren't clear since I should have been a lot more specific and clear about what I wrote in my original message, That mistake is entirely on my and I sincerely apologize. Have a great and hopefully awesome day! Take good care of yourself :)

    • @greywolf7577
      @greywolf7577 Год назад +34

      @@jonnymac8925 He'd have to spend most of that rebuying the equipment that was destroyed.

    • @Whelessry
      @Whelessry Год назад +17

      ​@@jonnymac8925 my guess would be a bad fight broke out and someone ended up getting killed. I.e. murder

    • @tomhamilton1348
      @tomhamilton1348 Год назад +30

      Definitely didn’t happen but creative story anyway

  • @trapperensor6608
    @trapperensor6608 Год назад +732

    My dad was the trauma doctor on for the twin peaks shooting. We were eating at Logan’s roadhouse which is within a 500 yards of twin peaks. It was right after church he heard the ambulances looked at his pager and finished his meal that was the last I saw of him for about 3 days straight. Right across the road is Baylor Scott and white Hillcrest so the drive to the hospital was less than 5 minutes

    • @SidewaysBurnouts
      @SidewaysBurnouts Год назад +47

      people that were there say that was started by a fed sniper.

    • @ReckOne559
      @ReckOne559 Год назад +73

      @SIDEWAYZBURNOUTZ and not a single biker was convicted. Majority of people that were injured were done so by law enforcement. No civilians were hurt either. Interesting isn't it

    • @SidewaysBurnouts
      @SidewaysBurnouts Год назад

      @@ReckOne559 at some point we have to realize the feds serve the ruling class, the bankers and the secret societies.

    • @ReckOne559
      @ReckOne559 Год назад +7

      @@SidewaysBurnouts facts

    • @trapperensor6608
      @trapperensor6608 Год назад +6

      @@ReckOne559 maybe I don’t know that part I just know it was suppose to be a knife and chain fight and they brought guns

  • @jamielacourse7578
    @jamielacourse7578 8 месяцев назад +38

    I lived on the same block as the H.A clubhouse in Edmonton. Our neighborhood had a ZERO % crime rate year-round.

    • @twally87
      @twally87 Месяц назад +9

      well... 0% in the official records, anyway lol

    • @pauljaramillo1727
      @pauljaramillo1727 11 дней назад

      Lmaoooooo Canada? Man stfu

    • @eddiek6390
      @eddiek6390 7 дней назад +1

      The Canadian HA is prolly the scariest chapters of HA. There are reasons why there's only one 1%MC in Canada, and it isn't because of the winters.

  • @tylerm0089
    @tylerm0089 8 месяцев назад +5

    Very interesting, and even more rare, believable....Thankyou "Insider". I believe this man is honest and I rarely ever think that.

    • @healthyb-fu5zd
      @healthyb-fu5zd Месяц назад

      He's a lair. And he's good at it. Never trust a fed

  • @eddyram4932
    @eddyram4932 Год назад +683

    I work security and the last director we had was also an undercover with some biker gangs back in the 80s and 90s. Dude looked normal, but if you looked at him long enough, you’d get this feeling like he was a bad dude that could hurt you. He was really nice though, and took care of us until he left our team.

    • @franksir5528
      @franksir5528 Год назад +6

      Hey answer me this. Why can The Hell's Angels have a right out in the open club house, but Latin Kings cannot?

    • @eddyram4932
      @eddyram4932 Год назад +29

      @@franksir5528 go ask the latin kings🤷‍♂️

    • @franksir5528
      @franksir5528 Год назад +1

      @@eddyram4932 that's a good idea, perhaps I shall

    • @genefogarty5395
      @genefogarty5395 Год назад +19

      @@franksir5528 One's a gang and the other's a motorcycle club.

    • @franksir5528
      @franksir5528 Год назад

      @@genefogarty5395 bullshit

  • @killerdove123
    @killerdove123 Год назад +648

    The scariest thing about the Hells Angels is the missing apostrophe.

    • @browngreen933
      @browngreen933 Год назад +16

      😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣

    • @REVY01
      @REVY01 Год назад +41

      A chilling revelation indeed.

    • @kevan4978
      @kevan4978 Год назад +31

      You've obviously never met them in real life or you wouldn't be saying that

    • @johnmunro4952
      @johnmunro4952 Год назад +10

      Many hells?🤣

    • @BradsGonnaPlay
      @BradsGonnaPlay Год назад +135

      @@kevan4978 you’ve obviously never heard a joke in real life or you wouldn’t be saying that

  • @ssisnake
    @ssisnake 8 месяцев назад +7

    My Dad did this in the 70s after he got back from Vietnam when he was a state narcotics officer and I had some cool photos of him we lost due to one of the many disasters in California. Some wild stories he told me about it.

  • @damascusraven
    @damascusraven 2 месяца назад +7

    Wow, an ATF agent doing something good for the nation? Rare sight.

  • @jonmueller2117
    @jonmueller2117 Год назад +56

    I know Jay, and he loves his family as much as any Dad could. Even fathers can make mistakes, but it is how you continue to love that matters.
    God bless.

    • @Captain_Cinnamon
      @Captain_Cinnamon Год назад +5

      He did his job to provide food on the table... What mistakes.

  • @LivingOnCash
    @LivingOnCash Год назад +268

    In the early '90s I had a custom bike shop in SoCal. I had a few HA as customers. I also had a friend that knew an ATF agent. That agent wanted to do an undercover operations like Dobyns did. My friend asked me if I would talk to this guy because he wanted to pick my brain about what I knew about the club. I declined and told me friend I didn't even want to meet this agent, let alone talk about club life. I had to explain to my friend what a dangerous position that would put me in. I don't think the agent ever got involved with the club.

    • @browngreen933
      @browngreen933 Год назад +68

      Wise decision. I was able to talk my actual brother family member out of joining. He's very glad now because his best friend did join and ended up spending 26 years in prison.

    • @jamest3002
      @jamest3002 Год назад +92

      "We want you to be a part of something that, if it goes sideways, will fall entirely on your head at no cost to us." 😎

    • @manualspellcorrect9073
      @manualspellcorrect9073 Год назад +11

      @@jamest3002 Sounds like another gang that frequent lodges.

    • @NemoBlank
      @NemoBlank Год назад +4

      Some friends you hang with, some you try not to hang because of.

    • @JokerInk-CustomBuilds
      @JokerInk-CustomBuilds Год назад +9

      I used to do security surveillance work for them in my country. Both in clubhouses and high ranking members homes. I wasn't involved in the club either. It was allways a hairline balance to make sure I never owed them anything or got to hear or see things that would give them a pinch on me.
      But they payed me real well for keeping quiet so it took me a while to slowly work my way out of them calling me when they needed work done...
      I'd have made the exact same choice you did!

  • @jonasbjorn2503
    @jonasbjorn2503 7 месяцев назад +1

    Ett stort tack för att ni står upp för yttrandefriheten.

  • @ShellShock794
    @ShellShock794 8 месяцев назад +6

    ATF never ceases to make bad calls

  • @CalzaTheFox
    @CalzaTheFox 9 месяцев назад +231

    This interview is a great example of how life can get complicated fast. It's also a great example how the ends are justified for the means, and regular people are often run over as a consequence.

  • @YouCareMoreThanMe
    @YouCareMoreThanMe Год назад +371

    This is badass. Makes me realize how I could NEVER do this. You have to be a rare caliber of man to do this and pull it off at that

    • @JonahNelson7
      @JonahNelson7 Год назад

      Yeah a fucked up caliber

    • @FreeAllenWrench
      @FreeAllenWrench Год назад +21

      If everyone in society was built like that, it would be a very tortuous world. It takes all kinds.

    • @jerkchickenblog
      @jerkchickenblog Год назад +5

      bullshit. you just have to live the life and have nothing else to live for. but if you're in law enforcement and want to be known as a badass or are very ambitious, many are willing. a lot of this is talked about like it's some goddamned movie. it's not that. there are moments of high drama but they are rare

    • @ThePandaAgenda
      @ThePandaAgenda Год назад +22

      @@jerkchickenblog bro walking up to an Angels club house after being greeted by 4 armed guards and saying “no, sir, I will not give up my firearm” takes a certain amount of cojones

    • @nonconformist369
      @nonconformist369 Год назад

      Yeah a true rat deceiver. Gains trust and then shits on everyone.

  • @Febard
    @Febard 8 месяцев назад +2

    such a cool insider. thanks for your story

  • @Falling_Down_1776
    @Falling_Down_1776 3 месяца назад +8

    As a professional shoe maker, I was looking for heels angles, but this'll do.

  • @BrutalJambon
    @BrutalJambon Год назад +42

    Alex Caine's book "Befriend and betray" about his own time as an Hell's Angels undercover is still one of my favourite read. I'm gonna get this one's a go for sure!

  • @ryanperkins4973
    @ryanperkins4973 Год назад +3

    Great story.This is is the quickest 20 minutes I’ve ever spent. Thanks for sharing

  • @keenant.7827
    @keenant.7827 8 месяцев назад +16

    Jay is the coolest guy ever! He was my first baseball coach growing up.

  • @mikoro88
    @mikoro88 7 месяцев назад

    Great piece!

  • @Iburn247
    @Iburn247 Год назад +8

    This wasn't long enough. Awesome content

  • @predac0nmiami
    @predac0nmiami Год назад +228

    I remember watching Jay Dobyns talk about this exact experience on the episode of Gangland about The Hells Angels. Good to see he's still around and still speaking on familiar topics!

    • @privateprivate3767
      @privateprivate3767 Год назад

      F*** ATF agents they killed kids at Waco and ruby ridge

    • @Costa_Conn
      @Costa_Conn Год назад +2

      How have you got time to watch YT? Back to the maps. 😉

    • @Chris92881
      @Chris92881 Год назад +7

      Gangland was such a great show. That was back in the heyday of Spike TV if I remember correctly. It might be time to bring that one back.

    • @predac0nmiami
      @predac0nmiami Год назад +4

      @@Chris92881 I recently re-watched the whole series and it's super outdated and antiquated but it's still super informative and interesting. Also i'm sure Gangs are still a problem in America but I don't think it's on the same level as it used to be too much technology, cameras & facial recognition software to get away with Gang Activity imo on a similar scale as the early 2000's

    • @bigfishy7816
      @bigfishy7816 Год назад +1

      Good to see still around
      NOT

  • @Hockey7234
    @Hockey7234 8 месяцев назад +2

    The irony of an ATF agents getting pissy about them wanting him to remove his guns.

  • @globaled1694
    @globaled1694 8 месяцев назад +1

    my dad was a mechanic all his life, he knew people in there and would do work on their bikes back in the day

  • @BozoDuhClown
    @BozoDuhClown Год назад +36

    This guy sounds like he honestly enjoyed the outlaw life more than being a fed

  • @medardbitangimana4580
    @medardbitangimana4580 Год назад +59

    I normally hesitate to watch videos over 15 minutes. This series is an absolute exception

  • @goodvibesvideo4545
    @goodvibesvideo4545 20 дней назад +1

    imagine if he just took the mission to create fire dad or grandpa lore, all jokes aside w guy for risking his family just to help stop these people commit crimes he even betrayed trust created relationships just for justice. Big respect to him

  • @TheZeek011
    @TheZeek011 8 месяцев назад +2

    I enjoyed this, great story.
    Brave man.

  • @adamarket
    @adamarket Год назад +93

    This is pretty fascinating and informative. I read Hunter S. Thompson's book back in the day and I've always been interested in the phenomenon of the Hell's Angels. This was a solid interview.

    • @edwardschmitt5710
      @edwardschmitt5710 Год назад +1

      Do you know two people need to be involved for an interview?

    • @valhallaxx
      @valhallaxx Год назад +2

      Thanks for mentioning that book, I was going to read it years ago after I finished Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas but forgot about it till now.

    • @Jwlar
      @Jwlar 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@edwardschmitt5710just because one person is off camera, doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
      This is still an interview, he is still answering questions from an interviewer.

    • @gordonlandreth9550
      @gordonlandreth9550 7 месяцев назад

      @@valhallaxx It is a very good book but remember that back then the Hells Angels were much different than they are now , or even 30 years ago .

  • @Joe_Goofball
    @Joe_Goofball Год назад +45

    Another ATF agent that did this was William "Billy" Queen--he infiltrated The Mongols. Interesting book "Under and Alone"

  • @dreamtimej
    @dreamtimej 5 дней назад

    The most riveting “How Crime Works” by Insider.

  • @jbkman
    @jbkman 5 месяцев назад +7

    Love how they just glossed over that he was an ATF agent 😂😂😂

  • @Yourboydrew
    @Yourboydrew Год назад +4

    This man speaks with conviction. Great vid

  • @midnite22767
    @midnite22767 Год назад +134

    Society glorifies and worships Hollywood actors for their betrayals on film but undercover agents have to be considered the best actors in the world because their very lives depend on their performance. Can't imagine the stress his family had to go through because of this case. Thank god there are officers like Jay Dobyns willing to do this dangerous thankless work.

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 Год назад +4

      yes.. Making it seem like every MC is like this is so stupid.. The amount of people I have heard hate on people that ride bikes.. All of this would end if drugs were legal and regulated. Most probaly wouldn't even do them anymore.. no different then drinking before your 21..Notice how everyone isn't an alcoholic after 21.. Because once its legal, its not that fun

  • @kelleygray9074
    @kelleygray9074 3 месяца назад +26

    The hells angels remind me of a group of playground bullies that never fully grew up but instead just became more violent.

    • @chodagreat7876
      @chodagreat7876 Месяц назад

      They are losers. My brother was part of a MC im not going to name the Club.. They took passports of Eastern European females and forced them to work as prostitutes. They sold drugs, used drugs and threathened alot of innocent ppl for money. My brother left the MC a few years ago on a bad standing, and i still think he's a loser for even joining

    • @blinkyy1088
      @blinkyy1088 21 день назад

      Weird because I'd say the exact same thing about the police

    • @steelonius
      @steelonius 19 дней назад

      @@blinkyy1088 Just like Jay says in the documentary about the Hell's Angels being like any other walk of life, members he liked and didn't. People doing community service and those involved in drugs and serious crimes. My dad was a cop and I think he is an awesome person and so were some of his friends that I met. But I also knew and interacted with other cops that I hated or was straight up scared of.

  • @lukesball1
    @lukesball1 Год назад +141

    "I wasn't going to kill anyone punching them in the head." I think it's usually the curb on the way down that does that.

    • @tylerdouglas480
      @tylerdouglas480 Год назад +16

      Lmfao 😂 too right.know ppl doing time for that very thing

    • @getgot7461
      @getgot7461 Год назад +6

      @@tylerdouglas480 That pissed me off too. So much of what he admitted to doing would put people in jail, EVEN IF they had reasonable excuses like he apparently had. But because a cop did it, no problem. Even if it means starting a gunfight where tons of people died that wouldn't have happened otherwise.

    • @missouricanna640
      @missouricanna640 Год назад

      There was a kid , twenty one years of age that got into a bar fight here in my town. One punch he was dead.
      Freak accident but it does happen.

  • @Guiltyconscience83
    @Guiltyconscience83 Год назад +384

    Yea. I read your book. The operation was a giant jerkoff. I forgot the name of the guy in charge but he seemed like he just wanted the clout of running the op instead of actually trying to build a case. Felt bad for Jay when I read it as it sounded like he was used and kept undercover way too long. I think the biggest arrest I recall from the book was sometime who did tattoos for the club threatening Jay after they pulled Jay out to try and prosecute guys. All that being said, Jay seemed like a pretty solid dude. Tough line of work.

    • @NG-cf7zh
      @NG-cf7zh Год назад +51

      Jay seems like a decent guy who is utterly powerless to his own ego. You’re head of a family and decide to do this prolonged undercover role within a very dangerous organization? A father has two jobs, to protect and provide for his family, and he endangered his family. Glad it worked out but it’s incredibly selfish in my mind

    • @acidwaste00
      @acidwaste00 Год назад

      it wasnt even a year he said he didnt make it to the yearly vote, and they only bust 50 peeople thats nothing in the scope of things, they should of stayed for 5-10 years and busted entire gang, 5 years is nothing

    • @Huntbarternsteal
      @Huntbarternsteal Год назад

      You have read one side of a story from a guy who lies for a living and your on board. Your just as smart as a hells angel apparently. Never trust a man that doesn't drink

    • @carsonking6199
      @carsonking6199 Год назад +34

      He’s an ATF agent, that’s worse than any gang member

    • @sdfsdf2205
      @sdfsdf2205 Год назад +4

      @@NG-cf7zh I mean he knew full well what he was going into. It is interesting though, in these situations people fly off the radar, witness protection.. become non existent with their family. However he went all out writing a book, all while still talking to news outlets to this day, why?

  • @waldoungerer9851
    @waldoungerer9851 2 месяца назад

    Very professional channel, makes a good impression

  • @MikaelaJoArroyo
    @MikaelaJoArroyo 8 месяцев назад

    It could be someone else but I think he wrote a book on his experience, it was great!

  • @rkidd3485
    @rkidd3485 Год назад +25

    The family has no idea their life will never be the same. Crazy

  • @tardwrangler
    @tardwrangler Год назад +19

    I respect the fact that he mentioned the good things he saw them do too

  • @taralown7023
    @taralown7023 Месяц назад

    This was one of the most successful and epic investigations ever with so many ramifications.

  • @jamesr4464
    @jamesr4464 3 месяца назад +4

    When I was 7years old I was friends with a 12 year old boy whose dad was a Hells Angel. My mother told me to never go to his house, but one day i went anyway. His dad was there sitting on the couch with a woman who wasnt the kids mother. I remember his dad had his jacket on with patches on it. I was scared and realized I should of listened to my mother, but his dad was cool. He picked me up and set me on his bike and let me pretend I was riding it and started telling me how the Hells Angels were the best. I have never forgot that day. I remember telling his dad I wanted to be a Hells Angel when i grew up and he just laughed.

    • @user-zf3sy1zg2k
      @user-zf3sy1zg2k 2 месяца назад

      did you become a Hell's angel

    • @gxnxvxx
      @gxnxvxx 2 месяца назад

      ​@@user-zf3sy1zg2kyeah he did

  • @NevilleFuckenBartos
    @NevilleFuckenBartos 11 месяцев назад +31

    How is this dude still alive and out in public. Surely he is a target for life. This was only 20 years ago.
    Crazy he signed up for this.

    • @jakefavre
      @jakefavre 8 месяцев назад +6

      Because he was never really in the gang, just an associate pretending to be a member to the public, he never murdered anyone for the club

    • @potatopobobot4231
      @potatopobobot4231 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@jakefavreno

    • @Justin-pe9cl
      @Justin-pe9cl 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@jakefavreI think he meant from the HA

  • @RealityCheckGA
    @RealityCheckGA Год назад +98

    Thanks for this great interview. After watching it I've joined the Hells Angel's

  • @JerichoGreen1
    @JerichoGreen1 Месяц назад +2

    I've read his book, it was amazing.

  • @R1ZZyD1ZZy2
    @R1ZZyD1ZZy2 7 месяцев назад

    made me think of the great series, Sons of Anarchy and Mayans MC...real tough stories like this man's

  • @nghiephuynhmn1987
    @nghiephuynhmn1987 Год назад +5

    Thank you for your service Sir!

  • @timi1710
    @timi1710 Год назад +45

    I think he was a hells angel in heart. He was visibly heartbrocken when he mentioned those friendships. Thats what the clubs are for. They are your family.

    • @vaddykaur
      @vaddykaur 6 месяцев назад

      THEY ARE TRASH. HELLS ANGELS ARE CLOWNS.

  • @DimitriTacoEater
    @DimitriTacoEater 2 месяца назад +6

    The first mistake this man made was working for the ATF.

  • @a7x_nomadiceagle482
    @a7x_nomadiceagle482 4 дня назад

    A lot of people forget that people who join the hells angels more often than not don’t join it to commit crimes, they do it to ride, to meet other people like them, and be part of a community that shares a hobby. It’s not all bad, and like Jay said, they do Toy Drives, Community Service, Blood drives, they care about people. I think more people need to be aware of that

  • @EzekielEshechiel
    @EzekielEshechiel 10 месяцев назад +3

    you are now, one of my personal heroes man thank you

  • @Swnsasy
    @Swnsasy Год назад +76

    This was very very interesting to learn.. So much more organized than I realized.. It's insane how deep in these undercovers can and do go..

    • @JokerInk-CustomBuilds
      @JokerInk-CustomBuilds Год назад +4

      they do a real good job making ppl think they are just a biker brotherhood by doing community charities etc. they even have YT channels portraying them as brotherhoods that help eachother become better humans and family fathers etc. Its insanely orgnized.... Having seen things from the inside as a contractor I can promise you they are hardened criminals that anyone should stay as far away from as possible...

    • @JonahNelson7
      @JonahNelson7 Год назад +1

      Welcome to humanity. We’re built for systems and love playing our part in them

  • @igornowicki29
    @igornowicki29 8 месяцев назад

    Good to see Mike is well and healthy in Belize.

  • @E.Mulchi
    @E.Mulchi 7 месяцев назад

    His work as a coach probably prevented more crime than his police work. That is actually serving a community

  • @MiniLemmy
    @MiniLemmy Год назад +191

    This is why it’s so hard to bring organisations like the Hells Angels down - to get in you have to become like family members, and if you do succeed in doing that, you then have to betray that family - not an easy thing to do when you’ve invested so much to get to that level with them, and the organisation is very smart in having the minimum 365 day prospect period and processes for full membership - makes infiltration damn near impossible!

    • @komiks42
      @komiks42 9 месяцев назад +22

      I also think that organisation of that scale, and with so many chapters, is near impossible to eleminate.
      You can cut one head off, but it will regrow before you cut the rest

    • @joeblow9850
      @joeblow9850 9 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 8 месяцев назад

      That's infinitely easier to infiltrate than lots of organizations that are LITERALLY just a family.

    • @iamgreen2964
      @iamgreen2964 8 месяцев назад

      I don't see why it would be necessary to eliminate the Hells Angels. There are people that are even worse, being members of even worse organisations, that should be brought down and no one is talking about. Let's start by corrupt politicians, corrupt cops, Neo-Nazis, the KKK, the Pharma industry, Monsanto and so on...

    • @bossyspaghetti
      @bossyspaghetti 8 месяцев назад +6

      I'm actually surprised it isn't longer; a year is not really that long to know someone, and a big undercover operation can go a year+ no problem.

  • @wfletch3270
    @wfletch3270 Год назад +10

    I read No Angels few years ago and couldn’t put it down. Fascinating stuff

  • @Nick_B_Bad
    @Nick_B_Bad 8 месяцев назад +3

    I have more respect for these types than cops and politicians. Did time with a heavy in the 81, we played chess for ramen all the time. Was one of the nicest and most stand up guys I had the pleasure of meeting.

  • @connermckay4012
    @connermckay4012 3 месяца назад +1

    I got the same ad 3 times in like 5 minutes watching this video

  • @joeyho5134
    @joeyho5134 Год назад +8

    A Salute to you , Sir. It takes strong willpower, courage, high sense of integrity, quick thinking ability and forethought.

    • @mauricamcginnis4063
      @mauricamcginnis4063 Год назад

      Ya l am sure it was all worth it just to get a thumbs up by someone like you .

  • @DOC_951
    @DOC_951 Год назад +9

    I would watch a full 2 hour doc on this

  • @DeputatKaktus
    @DeputatKaktus 2 месяца назад

    I live near a former Bandidos club house. Never had anything to do with them, though. Sure, I had casual convos with some people wearing the cut, and I was there when they had their summer parties where the whole neighborhood came together for drinks, dancing, bbq and live music. And it was great fun. Never felt threatened or uncomfortable in any way whatsoever at any point in time. Everyone struck me as really friendly and down to earth. Then suddenly the chapter was banned. The club house was raided by police, and all the insignia were taken down. Allegedly, there were some, lets say "less than savory things" going on behind the scenes, including but not limited to illicit substances and firearms.
    Other chapters are very much alive still, and they have some charity work going, and are, as one might say, pillars of the community. Many years ago I asked a retired member (who left in good standing when he was in his late 50s) about the notion that "all biker gangs are hardened criminals", he phrased it something like this:
    "There are circles within circles, my friend...and you want to be careful what circles you get into. When I was a member, there were many who just wanted some fun riding and enjoying the camaraderie. There were lots of good people who had some bad luck in life. They fell on hard times and at some point ended up making the wrong kind of friends that landed them in a bad place. They paid their due to society and served time in prison. Now they try to live on the straight and narrow as good as they can. The club is kinda like their surrogate family. And then there were a small percentage of really bad people. Sure, they were friendly enough on the outside but otherwise they usually stayed to themselves. You had to come to them if you wanted something. They did their own thing most of the time and sometimes those things would end up in the newspapers."

  • @artanderson3732
    @artanderson3732 16 дней назад

    Jay played football for the University of Arizona back in 1982-‘84. He was a great receiver!!! Guys got guys!!!

  • @ciremai303
    @ciremai303 Год назад +19

    I was at a steakhouse where the Hell's Angels were having a big dinner and I was in the bathroom and I saw one of them come out the stall and went right back to their table he didn't wash his hands

    • @wannabe4668
      @wannabe4668 Год назад +1

      Wow, I can sleep at night after reading your experience

    • @laikakills6309
      @laikakills6309 Год назад +2

      Monsters.

    • @rancon265
      @rancon265 Год назад

      He prolly didn't pee on his hands.

    • @toddgittins5692
      @toddgittins5692 Год назад

      He had wipes in his vest.

    • @user-lh8di9cs7p
      @user-lh8di9cs7p Год назад

      That's how you know they're bad to the bone..... savages

  • @LaMatadora
    @LaMatadora Год назад +155

    Absolutely love how this man talks and explains his story. Simple and straight to the point! I could listen to him for hours ❤️

  • @dillonconnolly9901
    @dillonconnolly9901 7 месяцев назад +3

    John Malkovich is really going all in on his new biker movie.

  • @nicobellic2465
    @nicobellic2465 9 месяцев назад

    As he is sharing his story in my head there are clips playing from the tv series Sons of anarchy.

  • @blarghwagurder
    @blarghwagurder Год назад +6

    Phenomenal video report.

  • @Linusgump
    @Linusgump Год назад +66

    I read his book right after I bought my first Harley in 2009. I wasn’t looking to join a gang, but was curious who is out there and how things go so that I can avoid confrontation with them.
    It’s a good book, and reading it got me interested in other motorcycle gang books.
    I wish he had gone into more detail about some things in this video, but maybe he wasn’t asked those questions.

    • @som2596
      @som2596 Год назад +1

      They are not gangs. They are Clubs.

    • @Linusgump
      @Linusgump Год назад +16

      @@som2596 what’s the difference?

    • @giuseppenasca2091
      @giuseppenasca2091 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@Linusgumpclubs = troublemaker on a superficial level (kinda)
      Gans = violent criminal organizations

  • @BirdMurmers
    @BirdMurmers 7 месяцев назад

    This should be a movie

  • @fiftyten84
    @fiftyten84 9 месяцев назад +1

    Feels like this would make a good movie

  • @TaylorDelRey
    @TaylorDelRey Год назад +71

    I love how obviously uncomfortable he became when talking about how the women are treated. He did not wanna get into that aspect of this.

    • @jendee1260
      @jendee1260 4 дня назад

      you liked how he didn’t want to open a can of worms on human trafficking post the “me too” era? not exactly cool.

  • @doylejodi7502
    @doylejodi7502 Год назад +7

    To have the presence of mind to hold up to the scrutiny of the gang consistently....knowing that at any moment, one slip could mean your end...

  • @stanleykubrick8786
    @stanleykubrick8786 8 месяцев назад

    So much courage. What an interesting Life.

  • @AdeptusCustodeCiff
    @AdeptusCustodeCiff 8 месяцев назад +1

    i remember the hells angels donating computers to our school in Colorado when i was little, we even had some come by as guests and tell us about to bad life of drug use and wanted us to not take part it it

  • @m.k.s.p.7746
    @m.k.s.p.7746 Год назад +6

    Awesome, thanks!! My cousin was a deep cover narc in the 1970's and I thought that he had some hairy stories ... Also knew a DEA deep cover agent that ended up addicted to heroin because he had to live the life. (He ended up going through a methadone detox ... tough stuff.) I couldn't imagine the commitment to get involved enough to be patched into the Angels, where anybody could call you out.