Just wanted to say a big win for me for a video to just start. No clips from half way through the video to "draw people in" you just gave us actual content. Thank you.
Every single one of them is controlled by the CIA/Freemasonry, that's why this guy threw a Trident hand sign straight up... Every single Mafia that has ever existed is controlled. Contrived, social engineering tools.
@@Dealy12 They are forced to follow their own club rules as well, new members didn’t get a say in the laws, they are made by others And they still follow plenty of government rules They are just criminals trying to pretend to not be just like any other gang It’s all a facade
A couple of years ago, I worked Casino Security. We had a group of Mongols come in and sit at the bar. About 30 minutes later a group of Hell's Angels came in and sat at another bar across the room. We actually had experience with both groups as they would both come in at one time or another to play or drink or whatever, but never at the same time. Both the Hell's Angels and Mongols were actually really chill if you talked to any of them, however we were stressed to the max just waiting for something to pop off. Thankfully both groups just stuck to themselves. We were expecting the opposite.
@@FINNAPR3SSABRICKyou watch to many TV shows. Those clubs have thousands of members. Some "huge bust" will be 10 or 20 dudes arrested. You're talking about what 1% of the 1%ers that's not the whole org. A lot of them are normal people who have never broken the law
That's pretty much how the original fraternities started in Germany. They are still combating each other with Sabers today. Look up "Schlagende Verbindung". Cheers
@@westoneuler4065 exactly when they say stay away from drugs they fkin mean it, there are consequences.. Of course any group with thousands of members will have plenty of people doing things not sanctioned by the bosses, can’t control everyone.
@@wb3213as someone who can speak to that it is absolutely 100% True. There is a prohibition against selling narcotics. The reason for the rule is that in the past before the raids in 2008 there were some members heavily involved in that activity. But it brought too much heat to the club. The Club does not profit from or have anything to do with that business. So it was prohibited . There is kind of a don’t ask don’t tell rule. What you do on your own time is YOUR business, you keep it far away from the Club. And if somehow those two things (the Club and your personal business ) should ever cross paths and it puts a brother in danger or causes him to lose his freedom or God forbid lose his life,there will be some pretty serious consequences and your membership in the club is over. ✌️
I've been out riding and had Mongols riders swerve at me numerous times, even when I was courteous and moved to the left of the carpool lane to let them by with room. I don't ride a Harley, and I've had my license for 20 years. I know etiquette, and a lot of these guys down here lack it.
Very few actually understand who mooch really is. I really wish this would’ve been uncut due to mooch being able to speak more freely. This interview was butchered where only the highlights were taken from this. He would’ve never put a 20 minute interview like this one turned out. This has been cut from over 2 hours of raw film. Mooch sincerely cared about his brothers. I was struggling with work and family issues and I came home from work after a 14 hour day. When I opened my garage door he was in my garage picking up take off bike parts and cleaned up my entire garage. He only did this due to him knowing what I was going through, and wanted to help ease my stress. He always helped his brothers any way he could. I didn’t come from the major club, I just helped kick off LTR. Love you mooch, I’ll see you soon.
@@davenock3683 When I lived at that spot all of our guys had access to the garage to come and work on their bikes anytime they wanted. Had bike lifts, and tools to do anything on bikes there. Worked out well.
Let them make their money, 😂 it’s still better than watching cable tv.. people tend to forget where we came from not that long ago.. we now get to pick what we watch and when we watch it with the touch of a finger, oh and it’s also free.. be happy with it 😂
Well meth isn't the only drug. Even alcohol can totally ruin your life. Anyway I don't belive none of them are doing drugs. If not doing, at least dealing, which is even worse. Club must live of something and sadly good will isn't paid in money.
@@immortal.bog.wizard Fun fact: Meth used to be called Crank, which comes from its early days when outlaw motorcycle gangs would hide the drug in the crankcases of their bikes.
@@bikersoncall m night shyamalan, a director. He’s famous for his shocking plot twists … all his movies try to do it ( with varying degrees of success)
I work at a casino and the Mongols come up about two or three times a year. They've always minded their business; no excessive drunkenness, outbursts, disputes. Some coworkers feel uneasy, but I've never seen trouble with them. Just guys looking to enjoy their time there.
I met Chago at Impact in Pasadena, super cool dude. Impact was a refuge for members to get there stuff together before they went in front of a judge. I remeber hanging with some of those dudes late night and was amazed at how they had each others backs no matter what and not one member was afraid to call someone out if they needed help getting right. I thought there was a brotherhood in that process that I really liked.
@@johnnynofucksgivin in my college they had to beat up a guy that I knew and smashed a bunch of tail lights overnight in the parking lot. And that was only to join. I hated frats since then
Literally. This dude actually seemed to try and turn his chapters into something more positive, taking members to rehab, mandatory workouts etc. And they *still* pushed him out.
7:10 Just a side note that Skinheads were originally, not racist. Then the racist came, and the Skinheads now had to specifically be against racism or say they werent racist in order to fight that. I was from the punk scene and some acquaintances ended up in biker gangs as well.
First skinheads were groups of people containing all ethnicities. Basically group of natives and Jamaican immigrants in UK who actually fight against the racism. Nothing like this nazi metrosexuals today.
Mongol's spread began in 1976 when some members of Long Beach moved to, and started a chapter in, Tulsa Oklahoma. I know for fact as my husband and I were one of the four couples who made that move.
Outlaws follow their own laws, not the govt, thats the difference, most gangs have rules, the Mafia, Aryan Brotherhood, Cartels , etc. Gangs act as a Street Govt. They control the environment with force
Yeah, cause it's clearly th same following rules you agree with vs being forced to follow 745,000 different laws forced upon you at birth. Y'all are fuckin stupid lol We get it, you post selfies every four years with you "I voted" sticker
random youtube recommendation thing, and this really has no bearing on anything other than welcome to perception maybe? Just before the release of 1st season of Sons of etc. I was driving west on either Washington or Pico Blvd in Los Angeles, saw several 'bikers' pull up in front of of me flying unfamiliar SOA colors. Curious, knowing the various studios local, looked at the riders. Huh. That looks like [fill in the blank]. They rode to a local Cuban restaurant. Then I saw SOS come out. meh... just sharing forgotten memory till read your post. peace.
@@user-mind-body it wasn’t the show, it was the posers during & after the show buying Harley’s, blacking them out, getting tats, dressing in black, wearing leather vests & using sneakers. Cringe & embarrassing.
One thing about the Hells Angels beef with the Mongols. I've heard the bottom rocker story for years but a few years ago I saw a docu series with George Christie. He said that a formal Angel ratted on club members or got some one killed. But basically that guy ran away and joined the Mongols. At the time the Mongols accepted anyone that can ride. When they saw him at an event the traitor hid with the Mongols and a war began. From the way that Mongols still take anyone fairly easily, it's a plausible scenario.
That’s the second time I’ve heard someone misuse the word militant to describe a structured way of conduct or having to do with the armed forces. It means “favouring confrontational or violent methods in support of a political or social cause.”
The comments about it being immature 12 yr olds that never grew up, comparison to fraternities, and general hate really say a lot about how society has changed its views of organizations like this over time.
Yes and no retired members keep their tats but once they slapped an out bad that’s a mandatory cover up plus I mean it makes sense why keep it if you’re not apart of it anymore.
@@chetgray5697 I say it to them at lights then peel out. Hells Angels can slob my knob. What are they going to do? Harley’s weigh 3 tons and have a top speed of 40.
@chetgray5697 So cliche... "You wouldn't say that to my face". You're absolutely right. We would be working general labor & factory jobs right along side you if we did. Come at my wife or kids and I'll do more than say a few words though, tough guy. Let's reverse the roles...
@@chetgray5697 The threat of a man resorting to violence any time you say something he man doesn't like speaks to his character. We won't say it to their faces because their psyches are fragile and prone to taking offense and prone to reacting violently.
@4OHz expected they weren't selling drugs. They were selling fake drugs. The guys who went to help what they believed to be a drug deal didn't have to go but choose to. They choose to paracipte in what they thought was going to be an illegal activity. They don't deserve anyone's sympathy.
It was really interesting to hear a bit more about the time period when Justin was involved in clubs. There are lots of old documentaries but they drop off at a point and are a bit dated and cheesy as well hahah! Seems like a nice dude, I’ll check out his book! Really enjoy the how crime works series. I’m studying cyber security just now so if you were interested in making a how cybercrime works episode that’d be awesome!
Con artists use the tools of trust and vulnerability of others to turn deception into an underhanded art form. The term con is short for confidence, reflecting how cons win over and exploit their victims' trust.
It’s not just a human trait animals do it too. Apes, ant colonies, wolf packs, lions, goats, giraffes, sea lions…. We all have the behavior to rival others to become dominate. Its how we were able to survive for thousands of years by pro creating with the strongest genes bud. You even rival other males just to grab the females attention you can’t escape it
"Bylaws, constitutions, meetings, dues, rules, orders, patches" - sounds very free and rebellious. Thanks for letting me know where to go if I want more people telling me what I can and can't do.
Bro it's a club they need rules. What would it be without rules ? 30 dudes with different patches that jump on their bikes an ride in different directions lol
I remember when I was in Montebello elementary school in 1970, I saw a handful of Mongols hanging out at a school friend's house. Then a few months later that handful grew to dozens then dozens more. I was afraid to walk down Greenwood Avenue when they were there. I thought they were the Hells Angele's but later learned they were the Mongols.
I’ll never forget the day when Ruben Cavasos was arrested. I was living with my aunt at the time and he apparently lived 3 houses down from her. At about 3am on a school night roughly 20+ squad cars and a helicopter show up announcing his name to exit his home. I didn’t know who or what Ruben C was at the time but I’ll never forget it being announced on those megaphones. The only guy in that whole neighborhood to have a motorcycle and he’d always park it in his garage. Was a real shock considering my aunt lived in a very nice and quiet neighborhood during that time and of all places in a little West Covina suburb is where he was living/busted.
If you want to watch a docuseries about the operation “black rain” and “22 green” raids on the mongols and vagos watch Gangland Undercover. It’s an amazing show and really well done. Two seasons and I’m watching it again for the 4th time !
I once interacted with a group of Mongols on my wedding day. My groomsmen took me to a restaurant close to the venue before the ceremony so that I wouldn’t see my bride before then and we we got a table that just happened to be next to a group of Mongols (and their “old ladies”). Since we were all in our nice suits, we certainly stuck out as much as they did and thus caught their attention. So we ended up chatting with them for a bit and they were actually very nice, much to my surprise and relief. I doubt anyone like that could ever be a part of my social groups, but maybe it was a good omen that we ran into each other for I ended up having one of the best days of my life. I only hope those folks are doing okay despite the lifestyle they chose.
I know what you mean. I know a lot of Bandidos and just about everyone I met was super cool. They may have treated me better because I grew up with the #2's son and he was my soccer coach. Most of them are just normal dudes. But they have a 10% just like the rest of the planet that screw it up for everyone.
Glad it was a nice interaction and just goes to show that if you treat people with the same respect you'd want, you'll get it usually in return. Congrats on marriage!
The series are totally fascinating really enjoying them and this guy sounds an absolute character really really good. Please keep them coming. Really enjoyed this one really nice bloke. 23:12
It's not a street gang. Plenty of dudes hop from club to club. It's looked down on but whose gonna join something that's gonna kill you if you leave ? How many snitches would they create by not letting people leave ?
For anyone wondering what it is really like, Mooch is telling the God’s honest truth. I was involved in an adjacent club around the same time as Mooch in a different state, and his description is as accurate as it gets from our club as well. He isn’t kidding about cops exaggerating… I have read and seen supposed reports that I was literally there for and it was entirely embellished. I am long past those days now, but I look back fondly and I always laugh when someone gets their ideas about being clubbed up from some true crime show or SOA. Also to add for those doubting, the no dealing drugs rule was a very real thing for most clubs in that era. That is absolutely true. Not everyone followed it, but they got their patches pulled pretty quick if they got caught.
i love these videos and honestly this guy seems nice and helpful but it's really hard to believe that he only ever tried to stop fights and wasn't fully aware of the drug trafficking lol
A lot of them aren’t in WitPro, a lot of them just left that life without having problems, some of them have died because of it, but that happened a lot years ago, nowadays, atleast in the US it’s different, for example with MC’s, a lot of the time they just operate under a ‘no contact’ law for people that left
In this case he’s not really saying anything that might hurt the club or giving any information about the club that isn’t already out there, so I don’t think he’s taking that big a risk.
Wasn’t there a gang land episode on the Mongols? The interview is playing it down or this dude is playing it down but there are a lot of missing pieces to this puzzle
I remember someone suggesting that gang kids weren't able to follow rules so they shouldn't be expected to..... A local youth counselor burst out laughing. She said, "The first thing that happens when you want to join a gang is they tell you all their rules. And why you'd better follow them." Marginalized people, but also dysfunctional people are attracted to outsider lifestyles, but if you want to join a group like a biker gang, you have to be willing to accept their structure, expectations, and follow the rules. Of course, at some level there is chaos, but usually controlled chaos. A student one time threatened that her father, a gang member, was going to kick my butt at Back To School Night. Latino society is generally more polite than Norte Americano society so it's always best to act respectfully. It's a good lesson anywhere. He came into my room, I was respectful, he was respectful. And my student, his daughter? She absolutely beamed with pride. Another time he came in with his arm in a sling. He'd been shot. I hope she's doing well.
People are people, and the process to get into a club weeds out weak people. So your surprise would turn to shock if you were to mingle with patched members of clubs. Degree holders, professionals ect. I know a guy that’s all about cosmology and physics…. He has a patch and works at a university.
“I didn’t want him to join. He had a lot going for himself.” You’re describing someone who doesn’t the other person to join a gang. So basically these are all gangs. Every incident, behavior, rules, all fall in line with gang culture.
Getting into law enforcement I expected motorcycle clubs/gangs to be very intimidating and dangerous. So far, having dealt with a few dozen of them, I've been severely disappointed. Mostly its immature adults who hate being accountable for their actions and fold as soon as a tiny bit of pressure gets put onto them. Overweight, never in fighting shape, and mostly individually broke. The most dangerous ones seem to be the ones trying to get their patch...That would be scary except they seem to always be living on Moms couch and cant hold a simple job. Informative video though.
Worked in a mongols run tattoo shop for 3 years and the most drama that occurred was all internal on some high school bullshit and guys rushing to help other guys that went down on their bikes cause they were riding drunk/high and have no insurance
@@gibbsm No one said he's nonviolent. He literally got a masters and is a social worker. You can literally look him up. He's obviously very intelligent and good at reading people. For 1%ers and other criminals that's literally how they survive.
These videos are awesome! Please keep making them! For the ones with foreign language speakers, has your team considered dubbing over the audio? At least into English? There was at least one that I didn’t watch because it was subbed and I couldn’t focus on it and my work at the same time. You could even upload both the sub and dub version to honor the voice of the original speaker, while giving accessibility options to viewers. Thanks for all the hard work!
I lived in Los Angeles from 1997-2009 and I would see them in West Covina and the El Monte area fairly often. I would also see packs of Hells Angels going down the 101 in the valley and also going north on the 405/5 freeways. I don’t know if it’s the same today. I was back on LA a couple years ago and I didn’t even recognize it. What they have done to that beautiful state is criminal. A lot of my friends who have been there since the 90’s have moved back to Phoenix and they were the ones that were never going to leave LA. It’s just so sad looking at what these politicians did to that gorgeous state
If you want the full story and a full look at the mongol lifestyle leading up to the raids, read or listen to under and alone. Not terribly long but great listen.
Clubs demand respect. 1973, I’m 16 yrs old. Taking my new Honda 500/4 from Chicago to Alpina Mi. to visit my Uncle at his military base. Going fast like I always did. I Came up upon a group of Hells Angles. I was passing on the left, a few members reached out as if to grab me. I knew I had made a mistake. I think the members recognized I was just a kid with a fast bike. They waved me by. I didn’t go slower than 120 for an hour, got off the freeway and took local roads for the rest of the day.
I remember being about 20 years old and running into a couple of Joker Gypsy guys in Oregon. They were the greasiest, ugliest, most dangerous looking guys id ever seen. I had HA neighbors and friends parents who were HA. These Joker Gypsy guys were like Tex Cobb in Raising Arizona! Hahaha
Nothing illegal. Except all these situations that involve guns, ammunition, people get murdered, rival clubs (rival over what btw if nothing illegal was happening). So many questions lol
He's explaining why they don't like the name gang which is true. He literally says there's a lot of double standards and hypocrites. He's quite honest. You just didn't watch
Accurate vid- used to surf & hang with some Mongols in LA. I was often to rowdy 1 who would supply party favors! They were solid dudes, friends & good family men! Was super bummed when they got raided under RICO & several went away. I pray they’re out & well now!! 🤙♥️😎
I can’t believe there are grown adults signing up to make their lives even more difficult and stressful than our country already makes it. It’s so crazy to me.
They want a fulfilling, non-boring, hectic, violent life. They don't work a standard 9-5 in a cubivle and come home and watch the news. It's about the brotherhood, discipline and camaraderie.
@@HgRoller and maybe that's the disconnect. I don't see how living a violent life promotes brotherhood, discipline and camaraderie unless you mentally have something going on. Fortunately for me my 9-5 grants me access to all the finer things in life, less stress, access to incredible experiences, and I wake up not having to look over my shoulder when I riding my motorcycle. If you call that boring and unfulfilling then we are just living in two different realities. I'm praying for my brothers that they find peace within.
Back in the days it was a unwritten rule not to mention anything related to the inside of a Neighborhood, Car Club, Bikers, or a “Club” in general, How time has changed 😒
Just wanted to say a big win for me for a video to just start. No clips from half way through the video to "draw people in" you just gave us actual content. Thank you.
Or a minute of royalty free music over 90's tier graphic design
Please don't give them credit for nothing, I'm pretty sure this interview was longer than that and they censored a lot of stuff.
Everyone tried to do Mr.beast videos now
Every single one of them is controlled by the CIA/Freemasonry, that's why this guy threw a Trident hand sign straight up...
Every single Mafia that has ever existed is controlled. Contrived, social engineering tools.
“I ain’t living by any rules, man!”
Proceeds to create all sorts of rules to live by
They live by their own rules, not society’s rules. It’s pretty self explanatory.
@@keithlukeswanson9345 😂 mom mom I swear it's different.
@@keithlukeswanson9345rules are still rules
It’s a petty distinction to try and make them feel like they are rebels
they live by their rules, not government rules. one they choose the other they a forced to follow
@@Dealy12 They are forced to follow their own club rules as well, new members didn’t get a say in the laws, they are made by others
And they still follow plenty of government rules
They are just criminals trying to pretend to not be just like any other gang
It’s all a facade
A couple of years ago, I worked Casino Security. We had a group of Mongols come in and sit at the bar. About 30 minutes later a group of Hell's Angels came in and sat at another bar across the room. We actually had experience with both groups as they would both come in at one time or another to play or drink or whatever, but never at the same time. Both the Hell's Angels and Mongols were actually really chill if you talked to any of them, however we were stressed to the max just waiting for something to pop off. Thankfully both groups just stuck to themselves. We were expecting the opposite.
Must’ve caught em on a day where they weren’t TOO high off biker crank.
@@FINNAPR3SSABRICKyou watch to many TV shows. Those clubs have thousands of members. Some "huge bust" will be 10 or 20 dudes arrested. You're talking about what 1% of the 1%ers that's not the whole org. A lot of them are normal people who have never broken the law
Why are biker gangs so corporate? I was waiting to hear: “He hit on my old lady so I reported him to regional HR”
Bro lay off the sons of anarchy. A lot of clubs are just normal guys who like to ride bikes.
@@julianboyd8719 well duh but we are watching a video about " one percenters"...
@@emillyyelen5169 what's the issue then? That this guy is respectful and well spoken? Or that he's not on here snitching on himself and his old club?
@@julianboyd8719 OP comment was a joke ffs
1% biker gangs are gangs. Not every member is involved, but there is without a doubt, drugs distribution, prostitution, gun running etc
I chuckled at the end where it said they weren't able to reach Doc for comment. He's the guy in the witness protection. program.
So, it's a fraternity where one of the activities is killing members of other fraternities.
That's pretty much how the original fraternities started in Germany. They are still combating each other with Sabers today. Look up "Schlagende Verbindung".
Cheers
And ride slow, loud motorcycles for some reason 🤷♂️
Nothing else beats that bonding experience 😂
Welcome to the Skulls
Bikers do alot of good. These videos are out to justify jailing bikers so others can traffic
Pay your chapter dues, come to the meetings, follow the dress code, don't do or sell drugs... Motorcycle gangs sound exactly like an HOA
There’s tons of drug sales going on, dude is just smart enough not to put their business out there like that
@@wb3213no, the rules are real, people die over them. Look up Shedden.
@@westoneuler4065 exactly when they say stay away from drugs they fkin mean it, there are consequences..
Of course any group with thousands of members will have plenty of people doing things not sanctioned by the bosses, can’t control everyone.
@@wb3213yup
@@wb3213as someone who can speak to that it is absolutely 100% True. There is a prohibition against selling narcotics. The reason for the rule is that in the past before the raids in 2008 there were some members heavily involved in that activity. But it brought too much heat to the club. The Club does not profit from or have anything to do with that business. So it was prohibited . There is kind of a don’t ask don’t tell rule. What you do on your own time is YOUR business, you keep it far away from the Club. And if somehow those two things (the Club and your personal business ) should ever cross paths and it puts a brother in danger or causes him to lose his freedom or God forbid lose his life,there will be some pretty serious consequences and your membership in the club is over. ✌️
Imagine being an adult man and fighting with other adults about patches on a piece of clothing. LOL
if you think the fight is literally about a patch then i don’t know where to start…
Wouldn’t say it to their face lmao
@@feralmode still really pathetic for a grown man to do
Exactly. Or for going to the wrong part of town. Childish
No difference when it comes with fight for a flag
I've been out riding and had Mongols riders swerve at me numerous times, even when I was courteous and moved to the left of the carpool lane to let them by with room. I don't ride a Harley, and I've had my license for 20 years. I know etiquette, and a lot of these guys down here lack it.
For awhile they recruited Nortenos to get membership up so I wouldn’t be surprised if they still 100% goon in SoCal .
They're Mongoloids Forever Forever Mongoloids... They have zero respect....all outlaw MC's are the same...
@@keithlukeswanson9345 lots of surenos in SoCal joined mongols
@@keithlukeswanson9345lmao wrong. They’re a SoCal motorcycle club how would they recruit gang members from up north
@@McKeeNJacksonthey probably don’t care about norteños vs sureños. just want numbers and $
Very few actually understand who mooch really is. I really wish this would’ve been uncut due to mooch being able to speak more freely. This interview was butchered where only the highlights were taken from this. He would’ve never put a 20 minute interview like this one turned out. This has been cut from over 2 hours of raw film. Mooch sincerely cared about his brothers. I was struggling with work and family issues and I came home from work after a 14 hour day. When I opened my garage door he was in my garage picking up take off bike parts and cleaned up my entire garage. He only did this due to him knowing what I was going through, and wanted to help ease my stress. He always helped his brothers any way he could. I didn’t come from the major club, I just helped kick off LTR. Love you mooch, I’ll see you soon.
so you were also a 1% ?
I thought common respect (and I would figure club rules even more so) dictated u never enter another man's home when he is not there to invite u in
You and mooch are sissy boiz
The leather and chains is making more and more sense. How long have you two been reenacting broke back mountain?
@@davenock3683 When I lived at that spot all of our guys had access to the garage to come and work on their bikes anytime they wanted. Had bike lifts, and tools to do anything on bikes there. Worked out well.
There weren’t enough commercials during this video I prefer one commercial every 30 seconds as opposed to one every minute.
🤣🤣🤣
@@williamlyons3947 I got an iPhone.
Let them make their money, 😂 it’s still better than watching cable tv.. people tend to forget where we came from not that long ago.. we now get to pick what we watch and when we watch it with the touch of a finger, oh and it’s also free.. be happy with it 😂
These episodes are fantastic. Keep up the great work.
I love this program. They do a really good job with it
I’m interviewing Ex Finks(now known as Mongols) from Australia soon
This guys gay
Imagine actually being Mongolian and then meeting these guys
I thought they were called the Mongrels but he says it's Mongols.
@@terry_willisthere is a group in NZ called the Mongrels
@lucaseric8679 Mongrel Mob (I'm from Aotearoa btw)
they have a Mongolian chapter
@@spaea2062Yoza ✊🏿 City of Sails baby
“Members are not allowed to use meth”
Man.. what a great rule
Considering the area he was in it makes sense. Lol
Also meth was a huge Hell's Angels thing
Well meth isn't the only drug. Even alcohol can totally ruin your life. Anyway I don't belive none of them are doing drugs. If not doing, at least dealing, which is even worse. Club must live of something and sadly good will isn't paid in money.
@@immortal.bog.wizard Fun fact: Meth used to be called Crank, which comes from its early days when outlaw motorcycle gangs would hide the drug in the crankcases of their bikes.
They were only allowed to use fent
This and the Hell’s Angels one just reminds me of that South Park episode with the bikers 😂
Brbrbrbrbrrbbrrbrbb
F words lol.
"The only people who feel the need to dress up and make as much noise as possible are sixteen year old girls and you guys." Eric Cartman
“How could they call us that? I mean just listen to this!”
*BRAMMMM BRMMM*
“Buh buh buh buh”
Same comment on every motorcycle post.
"as a social worker" M.Nighted the narrative real quick for me
''M.Nighted''?
@@bikersoncall m night shyamalan, a director. He’s famous for his shocking plot twists … all his movies try to do it ( with varying degrees of success)
I work at a casino and the Mongols come up about two or three times a year. They've always minded their business; no excessive drunkenness, outbursts, disputes. Some coworkers feel uneasy, but I've never seen trouble with them. Just guys looking to enjoy their time there.
I met Chago at Impact in Pasadena, super cool dude. Impact was a refuge for members to get there stuff together before they went in front of a judge. I remeber hanging with some of those dudes late night and was amazed at how they had each others backs no matter what and not one member was afraid to call someone out if they needed help getting right. I thought there was a brotherhood in that process that I really liked.
It's lost now
Sass’s b
It's like hearing about a large group of 12 year old boys who never grow up. Fascinating.
So what do you call fraternity’s that still hang out and do group events years after they left school
It started from WW2 vets returning home from war and wanting a brotherhood that they had serving the country
You call them for fraternities you clown fraternities don’t go around killing each other because some guy threw up Alpha Omega on his block
Ww2 was a long time ago pal 😂😂
@@johnnynofucksgivin in my college they had to beat up a guy that I knew and smashed a bunch of tail lights overnight in the parking lot. And that was only to join. I hated frats since then
Getting the "Out bad" status really proves his point about how fucked up the Mongol power struggle is...
Literally. This dude actually seemed to try and turn his chapters into something more positive, taking members to rehab, mandatory workouts etc. And they *still* pushed him out.
Idk man, he probably didn’t tell the *whole story.*
7:10 Just a side note that Skinheads were originally, not racist. Then the racist came, and the Skinheads now had to specifically be against racism or say they werent racist in order to fight that. I was from the punk scene and some acquaintances ended up in biker gangs as well.
You're intentionally conflating Skinheads the US based white supremacist gang with the 60s London punk scene.
First skinheads were groups of people containing all ethnicities. Basically group of natives and Jamaican immigrants in UK who actually fight against the racism. Nothing like this nazi metrosexuals today.
Skinhead here… came from Jamaican ska in 69
Always anti racist always skinhead
Mongol's spread began in 1976 when some members of Long Beach moved to, and started a chapter in, Tulsa Oklahoma. I know for fact as my husband and I were one of the four couples who made that move.
Fantastic!
As a wife of this outfit, how does it feel to be considered as property to these misogynists.?
Wish you guys wouldve asked why they dont allow other bikers to pass when none of us want to be a part of their little games
It doesn’t happen. All you have to do is stay out of their pack.
Imagine calling yourself an “outlaw” and having to follow more rules then the European Union
😂
"You get a bunch of guys together who can't follow any rules... and all of a sudden they start making rules"
Outlaws follow their own laws, not the govt, thats the difference, most gangs have rules, the Mafia, Aryan Brotherhood, Cartels , etc. Gangs act as a Street Govt. They control the environment with force
Yeah, cause it's clearly th same following rules you agree with vs being forced to follow 745,000 different laws forced upon you at birth.
Y'all are fuckin stupid lol We get it, you post selfies every four years with you "I voted" sticker
I'm perplexed as to why you think that's some kind of contradiction. "Laws" and "rules" are not synonymous...
I was obsessed with motorcycle clubs when I was 17-18, then sons of anarchy came out & it all became a joke to me. I ride solo & always will.
Lone Wolf, No Pack.
random youtube recommendation thing, and this really has no bearing on anything other than welcome to perception maybe?
Just before the release of 1st season of Sons of etc. I was driving west on either Washington or Pico Blvd in Los Angeles, saw several 'bikers' pull up in front of of me flying unfamiliar SOA colors. Curious, knowing the various studios local, looked at the riders. Huh. That looks like [fill in the blank]. They rode to a local Cuban restaurant. Then I saw SOS come out. meh... just sharing forgotten memory till read your post. peace.
Yeah because TV and movies are real
@@user-mind-body it wasn’t the show, it was the posers during & after the show buying Harley’s, blacking them out, getting tats, dressing in black, wearing leather vests & using sneakers. Cringe & embarrassing.
I almost always ride with at least one other person so If either of us come off there's help.
I watched the hells angels video a while back, and it was really entertaining. Glad the series is continued!
One thing about the Hells Angels beef with the Mongols. I've heard the bottom rocker story for years but a few years ago I saw a docu series with George Christie. He said that a formal Angel ratted on club members or got some one killed. But basically that guy ran away and joined the Mongols. At the time the Mongols accepted anyone that can ride. When they saw him at an event the traitor hid with the Mongols and a war began. From the way that Mongols still take anyone fairly easily, it's a plausible scenario.
Motorcycle clubs are so cute. They all dress alike and go ride bikes and get into adventures.
That's cute, would you say that in their face?
Yup
Yeah, I would, bunch of closeted boy lovers.
Mongols: the one MC where you don't need to actually own or know how to ride a motorcycle to join.
That was during Cavazos days.
Hasn’t been that way in 25 years. Quit watching gangland and go speak to an actual Mongol.
@@davidc3943obviously the guy is uneducated
Lmao half the guys i know either dont have a running bike or have had a bike for a year or less🤣
This isn't true. I have Mongol friends. What you are talking about is during war time. Some rules were laxed. That's all.
That’s the second time I’ve heard someone misuse the word militant to describe a structured way of conduct or having to do with the armed forces.
It means “favouring confrontational or violent methods in support of a political or social cause.”
Only the second time?
The comments about it being immature 12 yr olds that never grew up, comparison to fraternities, and general hate really say a lot about how society has changed its views of organizations like this over time.
Bruh knew he had to cover his Mongol head tat he didn't have a choice
Yes and no retired members keep their tats but once they slapped an out bad that’s a mandatory cover up plus I mean it makes sense why keep it if you’re not apart of it anymore.
I mean… if you can’t keep your patch. Why would you be able to keep the tattoo? No sir
Basically 12 year old boys who never grew up and play childhood games.
Things you'd never say to even one of their faces 😂
@@chetgray5697 frrrr lmaooo
@@chetgray5697 I say it to them at lights then peel out. Hells Angels can slob my knob. What are they going to do? Harley’s weigh 3 tons and have a top speed of 40.
@chetgray5697 So cliche... "You wouldn't say that to my face". You're absolutely right. We would be working general labor & factory jobs right along side you if we did. Come at my wife or kids and I'll do more than say a few words though, tough guy. Let's reverse the roles...
@@chetgray5697 The threat of a man resorting to violence any time you say something he man doesn't like speaks to his character. We won't say it to their faces because their psyches are fragile and prone to taking offense and prone to reacting violently.
11:46 Sounds like entrapment to me or a lame attempt. ATF selling to DEA- where’s the illegality?
That's not what entrapment is.
@@WholeSomeHomie Yeah, I know more like keystone cops - what were they trying to accomplish?
@4OHz expected they weren't selling drugs. They were selling fake drugs. The guys who went to help what they believed to be a drug deal didn't have to go but choose to. They choose to paracipte in what they thought was going to be an illegal activity. They don't deserve anyone's sympathy.
@@Bigmojojo ahh, got it- I just wasn’t listening well enough
@@4OHzit’s not exactly entrapment but it’s damn sure a *loophole* where it’s surely close to entrapment.
It was really interesting to hear a bit more about the time period when Justin was involved in clubs. There are lots of old documentaries but they drop off at a point and are a bit dated and cheesy as well hahah! Seems like a nice dude, I’ll check out his book!
Really enjoy the how crime works series. I’m studying cyber security just now so if you were interested in making a how cybercrime works episode that’d be awesome!
MOOCH !!! Is a great guy and has helped so many others in his line of work with mental health , relationships, and addiction 🙌 Right on Justin
He does not seem like a "bad influence" at all.
Con artists use the tools of trust and vulnerability of others to turn deception into an underhanded art form. The term con is short for confidence, reflecting how cons win over and exploit their victims' trust.
Mooch is so kind! People in the comments are so negative! He’d literally give you the shirt off his back. This isn’t Sons of Anarchy.
@@starjacques4926 agreed 💯 percent
@@STAYHUMBLE302 helping his brothers get off meth while being the president of a club is such a righteous act.
Humans will do anything to group together and find reasons to kill each-other.
We are interesting animals.
More like disgusting animals we are
Which is why I find patriotism and nationalism weird.
It’s not just a human trait animals do it too. Apes, ant colonies, wolf packs, lions, goats, giraffes, sea lions…. We all have the behavior to rival others to become dominate. Its how we were able to survive for thousands of years by pro creating with the strongest genes bud. You even rival other males just to grab the females attention you can’t escape it
@@jvanek8512 I find religious extremism the weirdest personally.
@@jvanek8512 Do you even know what those words mean?
I didn’t know bikers could hop from club to club like this dude.
My guess is because Vagos and Mongols are allies if I remember correctly
Yea you can. You can go from support club to the big league clubs. However, I don’t think you can go from being a *Pagan to a hells angel.*
Og mooch I met him in Portland in 2008 while being on tour and he was a cool humble guy despite his status in the mc.
We get 1 life and its craaaazy how humans choose to live that 1 life . No go backs
fk yeah man, imagine this being your choice, unreal
Mooch is the man honestly.. I’ve followed him for years! Glad he’s on the positive path he wants in life.
Great communicator. Intelligent. This guy could have done anything with his life. He's turned himself into a good man from what I see.
We aren't into crime anymore except the entire Tennessee chapter was indicted like 2 years ago
"Bylaws, constitutions, meetings, dues, rules, orders, patches" - sounds very free and rebellious. Thanks for letting me know where to go if I want more people telling me what I can and can't do.
Bro it's a club they need rules. What would it be without rules ? 30 dudes with different patches that jump on their bikes an ride in different directions lol
@SteveDoe-e7v Birds fly together in the same direction.Bikers aren't as smart as birds?
I remember when I was in Montebello elementary school in 1970, I saw a handful of Mongols hanging out at a school friend's house. Then a few months later that handful grew to dozens then dozens more. I was afraid to walk down Greenwood Avenue when they were there. I thought they were the Hells Angele's but later learned they were the Mongols.
I’ll never forget the day when Ruben Cavasos was arrested. I was living with my aunt at the time and he apparently lived 3 houses down from her. At about 3am on a school night roughly 20+ squad cars and a helicopter show up announcing his name to exit his home. I didn’t know who or what Ruben C was at the time but I’ll never forget it being announced on those megaphones. The only guy in that whole neighborhood to have a motorcycle and he’d always park it in his garage. Was a real shock considering my aunt lived in a very nice and quiet neighborhood during that time and of all places in a little West Covina suburb is where he was living/busted.
Always watching from Georgetown Guyana south America 🇬🇾🇬🇾
Don't drink the Kool-aid there
If you want to watch a docuseries about the operation “black rain” and “22 green” raids on the mongols and vagos watch Gangland Undercover. It’s an amazing show and really well done. Two seasons and I’m watching it again for the 4th time !
I once interacted with a group of Mongols on my wedding day. My groomsmen took me to a restaurant close to the venue before the ceremony so that I wouldn’t see my bride before then and we we got a table that just happened to be next to a group of Mongols (and their “old ladies”). Since we were all in our nice suits, we certainly stuck out as much as they did and thus caught their attention. So we ended up chatting with them for a bit and they were actually very nice, much to my surprise and relief. I doubt anyone like that could ever be a part of my social groups, but maybe it was a good omen that we ran into each other for I ended up having one of the best days of my life. I only hope those folks are doing okay despite the lifestyle they chose.
I know what you mean. I know a lot of Bandidos and just about everyone I met was super cool. They may have treated me better because I grew up with the #2's son and he was my soccer coach. Most of them are just normal dudes. But they have a 10% just like the rest of the planet that screw it up for everyone.
Respect goes a long way, and
in both directions. ☑
Glad it was a nice interaction and just goes to show that if you treat people with the same respect you'd want, you'll get it usually in return. Congrats on marriage!
Yeah, they're real 'respectful ' when they call women 'old ladies' & exclude them. Women are dogs in these all male (homophile) clubs.🙄
Very well put together episode new to this channel, this was the first episode I seen. Liked,commented and subscribed. Informative and entertaining 👌🏽
The series are totally fascinating really enjoying them and this guy sounds an absolute character really really good. Please keep them coming. Really enjoyed this one really nice bloke. 23:12
I’m a little confused, can you go from club to club? Or do you have to get jumped out of one before you join another?
It's not a street gang. Plenty of dudes hop from club to club. It's looked down on but whose gonna join something that's gonna kill you if you leave ? How many snitches would they create by not letting people leave ?
Grew up in Palmdale they both were everywhere out there.
The Black Widows out of Pacoima are the most feared MC
For anyone wondering what it is really like, Mooch is telling the God’s honest truth. I was involved in an adjacent club around the same time as Mooch in a different state, and his description is as accurate as it gets from our club as well. He isn’t kidding about cops exaggerating… I have read and seen supposed reports that I was literally there for and it was entirely embellished.
I am long past those days now, but I look back fondly and I always laugh when someone gets their ideas about being clubbed up from some true crime show or SOA.
Also to add for those doubting, the no dealing drugs rule was a very real thing for most clubs in that era. That is absolutely true. Not everyone followed it, but they got their patches pulled pretty quick if they got caught.
i love these videos and honestly this guy seems nice and helpful but it's really hard to believe that he only ever tried to stop fights and wasn't fully aware of the drug trafficking lol
He talked about there being a rule with no human trafficking, not drug trafficking.
I can watch these biker ones all day long. You can get other former biker members who’ve since left.
No cursing very well spoken person. This dude is really solid and respectful something you rarely see nowadays. Respects to the Mongols
"Solid & respectful," but they're super misogynistic towards women. 😂🙄
Why aren't these guys afraid for their lives to speak out against/exposing these criminal organizations? Are they truly safe in witness protection?
Great point
Yes
A lot of them aren’t in WitPro, a lot of them just left that life without having problems, some of them have died because of it, but that happened a lot years ago, nowadays, atleast in the US it’s different, for example with MC’s, a lot of the time they just operate under a ‘no contact’ law for people that left
@Roguchii Absolutely not. Depends who the p off the most.
In this case he’s not really saying anything that might hurt the club or giving any information about the club that isn’t already out there, so I don’t think he’s taking that big a risk.
They went into Australia and recently been moving into NZ. They’ve brought a lot of violence over here.
Crazy this guy went to the same high school as me and graduated with one of my siblings. Awesome video!
Wasn’t there a gang land episode on the Mongols? The interview is playing it down or this dude is playing it down but there are a lot of missing pieces to this puzzle
He's very calm and well spoken for being in a outlaw motorcycle gang, I'm surprised.
He said that he's a social worker.
He comes from a good family and is a smart dude. Lots of fringe personalities are far more intelligent than you’d think.
I remember someone suggesting that gang kids weren't able to follow rules so they shouldn't be expected to..... A local youth counselor burst out laughing. She said, "The first thing that happens when you want to join a gang is they tell you all their rules. And why you'd better follow them."
Marginalized people, but also dysfunctional people are attracted to outsider lifestyles, but if you want to join a group like a biker gang, you have to be willing to accept their structure, expectations, and follow the rules. Of course, at some level there is chaos, but usually controlled chaos.
A student one time threatened that her father, a gang member, was going to kick my butt at Back To School Night. Latino society is generally more polite than Norte Americano society so it's always best to act respectfully. It's a good lesson anywhere. He came into my room, I was respectful, he was respectful. And my student, his daughter? She absolutely beamed with pride. Another time he came in with his arm in a sling. He'd been shot. I hope she's doing well.
He has a phd in psychology
People are people, and the process to get into a club weeds out weak people. So your surprise would turn to shock if you were to mingle with patched members of clubs. Degree holders, professionals ect. I know a guy that’s all about cosmology and physics…. He has a patch and works at a university.
He’s definitely a PR guy, he downplayed the 2nd deadliest MC in the country to seem like they were the T’Birds
Cool story
When are they switching to e-bikes?
The arm with the wrist band just happened to be hanging out ?
Mongolian here, nothing Mongolian here
This was excellent, and historically precise to the extent that I know.
I heard prospects need to complete atleast 3 plates at a all u can eat Mongolian bbq spot before they become a official member aswell
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“I didn’t want him to join. He had a lot going for himself.” You’re describing someone who doesn’t the other person to join a gang. So basically these are all gangs. Every incident, behavior, rules, all fall in line with gang culture.
So if I'm a Mongolian do I automatically get in?
The biggest controversy came when they pushed to include unicycles.
Getting into law enforcement I expected motorcycle clubs/gangs to be very intimidating and dangerous. So far, having dealt with a few dozen of them, I've been severely disappointed. Mostly its immature adults who hate being accountable for their actions and fold as soon as a tiny bit of pressure gets put onto them. Overweight, never in fighting shape, and mostly individually broke. The most dangerous ones seem to be the ones trying to get their patch...That would be scary except they seem to always be living on Moms couch and cant hold a simple job. Informative video though.
>So I called my wife, told her to pack me a bag, and I started heading towards the Ozarks
Isnt that how the show started? 😆
Worked in a mongols run tattoo shop for 3 years and the most drama that occurred was all internal on some high school bullshit and guys rushing to help other guys that went down on their bikes cause they were riding drunk/high and have no insurance
"Thailand and Bali and Indonesia..."
As Balinese, I always have this mixed feeling when people think Bali is NOT a part of Indonesia lol.
No one cares
He’s an undercover !!!! Been in every club!!!
A slightly different path in life and this guy would have be the CEO of a corporation. Intelligent and really well spoken.
geez you people are easy. "Oh, he speaks well, he must be a good guy, and competent at everything"...LOL, sure, Jan.
@@gibbsm No one said he's nonviolent. He literally got a masters and is a social worker. You can literally look him up. He's obviously very intelligent and good at reading people. For 1%ers and other criminals that's literally how they survive.
Hes a pretty level headed leader.
Well actualy most leaders ahould be level headed, secure and overall solid.
Being a Mongolian and watching this ….
These videos are awesome! Please keep making them!
For the ones with foreign language speakers, has your team considered dubbing over the audio? At least into English? There was at least one that I didn’t watch because it was subbed and I couldn’t focus on it and my work at the same time.
You could even upload both the sub and dub version to honor the voice of the original speaker, while giving accessibility options to viewers.
Thanks for all the hard work!
Always hear the no meth rule, yet its there
They use meth to fuel their gay sex parties
felt like a Vice (old school) episode. MOAR pl0x
I see Mongols in El Sereno to West Covina chilling in certain areas.
I lived in Los Angeles from 1997-2009 and I would see them in West Covina and the El Monte area fairly often. I would also see packs of Hells Angels going down the 101 in the valley and also going north on the 405/5 freeways. I don’t know if it’s the same today. I was back on LA a couple years ago and I didn’t even recognize it. What they have done to that beautiful state is criminal. A lot of my friends who have been there since the 90’s have moved back to Phoenix and they were the ones that were never going to leave LA. It’s just so sad looking at what these politicians did to that gorgeous state
Grip of mongols n vagos around covina west covina
fantastic!
He forgot to mention that Blane was the one that pulled a gun first. He was a real “tough guy”
When did it began cool to tell everything
If you want the full story and a full look at the mongol lifestyle leading up to the raids, read or listen to under and alone. Not terribly long but great listen.
I think I'm going to get myself a 99% patch.
Clubs demand respect. 1973, I’m 16 yrs old. Taking my new Honda 500/4 from Chicago to Alpina Mi. to visit my Uncle at his military base. Going fast like I always did. I Came up upon a group of Hells Angles. I was passing on the left, a few members reached out as if to grab me. I knew I had made a mistake. I think the members recognized I was just a kid with a fast bike. They waved me by. I didn’t go slower than 120 for an hour, got off the freeway and took local roads for the rest of the day.
i have an ebike i love riding around my city, no club no gang just me happy me
If you get a American made Harley EBike you could join almost all of the 1% clubs.
Lame
@@Cowboy_kiddyeah, you are
I’m currently riding a 40 year old 250cc dirtbike. If an MC decided to mess with me, at least it’s not the dam cops
Smart
in the face of adversity i come to you for vape , motivation to right the help you need when im sober
The Gypsy Jokers are by far the dominant MC in oregon.
Thats a silly name but i would never say that to their face
Sounds pretty gay
@@timcum🤣🤣🤣
I remember being about 20 years old and running into a couple of Joker Gypsy guys in Oregon. They were the greasiest, ugliest, most dangerous looking guys id ever seen. I had HA neighbors and friends parents who were HA. These Joker Gypsy guys were like Tex Cobb in Raising Arizona!
Hahaha
Sounds super gay bro
Thank you for getting rid of that horrible rewinding sound!!!
Watching this as a Mongolian is wild lmao
So was it you that "Broke Down My Shitty Wall"
Question: Are Mongols allowed to wear a white vest if they want? I always thought that patch would look fresh af on a white cut.
we dont want to be seen as gangs but for the love of motorcycles, proceeds to say things that gangs do
Nothing illegal. Except all these situations that involve guns, ammunition, people get murdered, rival clubs (rival over what btw if nothing illegal was happening). So many questions lol
He's explaining why they don't like the name gang which is true. He literally says there's a lot of double standards and hypocrites. He's quite honest. You just didn't watch
Accurate vid- used to surf & hang with some Mongols in LA. I was often to rowdy 1 who would supply party favors! They were solid dudes, friends & good family men! Was super bummed when they got raided under RICO & several went away. I pray they’re out & well now!! 🤙♥️😎
I can’t believe there are grown adults signing up to make their lives even more difficult and stressful than our country already makes it. It’s so crazy to me.
They want a fulfilling, non-boring, hectic, violent life. They don't work a standard 9-5 in a cubivle and come home and watch the news. It's about the brotherhood, discipline and camaraderie.
@@HgRoller and maybe that's the disconnect. I don't see how living a violent life promotes brotherhood, discipline and camaraderie unless you mentally have something going on. Fortunately for me my 9-5 grants me access to all the finer things in life, less stress, access to incredible experiences, and I wake up not having to look over my shoulder when I riding my motorcycle. If you call that boring and unfulfilling then we are just living in two different realities. I'm praying for my brothers that they find peace within.
@@HgRollerSounds like fight club to me. You can't escape rules though, even their life can become rudimentary with the rules they have to follow.
Back in the days it was a unwritten rule not to mention anything related to the inside of a Neighborhood, Car Club, Bikers, or a “Club” in general, How time has changed 😒
This is just an indicator on how gullible people are.
Once I seen a Mongol MC with perfectly plucked eyebrows I thought to myself "Ok, this fella isn't too intimidating."
So You liked Him....?